00:00SPEAKERHey, so you know that problem you were having with that Intel machine and certain games
00:06SPEAKERand it becoming very unstable?
00:10SPEAKEROh no, did your motherboard vendor fly too close to the sun Brad?
00:13SPEAKERHow exactly did that manifest for you?
00:16SPEAKERIt varied from game to game.
00:18SPEAKERSome games would do things like crash if they had anti-cheat on, so they would detect memory,
00:25SPEAKERit would just bomb out and the anti-cheat would fail, and then eventually I got perma-banned
00:29SPEAKERfrom Fortnite and had to send a note to somebody who I know who works at Epic and they were
00:33SPEAKERlike, "Oh, no, you probably shouldn't have been perma-banned."
00:37SPEAKERAnd then I got un-perma-banned, but I kept getting the crashes and then I clocked it
00:41SPEAKERdown from a 55x multiplier to a 52 or 53x multiplier, and after that it was fine for
00:48SPEAKERa while.
00:49SPEAKEROkay, so did it ever just spontaneously reboot in the middle of a game?
00:53SPEAKERNo, spontaneous reboots are almost always heat.
00:55SPEAKERI've always chalked it up to power supply or frequently, in fact I was getting that
00:59SPEAKERexact problem two years ago and it was my eight-ish year old power supply because as
01:04SPEAKERsoon as I replaced that it stopped completely.
01:07SPEAKERSo it's heat related to power supply.
01:10SPEAKERIt's the efficiency of power supplies and thus the amount of power they put out goes
01:14SPEAKERdown the higher the temperature gets inside there.
01:17SPEAKERSo if you have a power supply that the fan doesn't turn on early enough or if it gets
01:21SPEAKERtoo warm inside or if it's 90 degrees in your office like mine is right now, then when you
01:28SPEAKERhave a power demand spike from the computer, if the power supply can't provide it, it'll
01:33SPEAKERjust reboot.
01:34SPEAKERInteresting.
01:35SPEAKERI don't know then, this was not an especially hot day.
01:38SPEAKEROkay.
01:39SPEAKERIt was actually when I was exiting the game.
01:42SPEAKERWhat game was it out of curiosity?
01:43SPEAKERIt was the Battle Aces Closed Beta, so the fact that it's an unfinished game I guess
01:47SPEAKERcould contribute, but I struggled to envision any scenario where a game alone could cause
01:53SPEAKERyour entire machine to reboot.
01:54SPEAKERI mean, a game, yeah, you can mess up bad enough that the graphics card driver will
01:59SPEAKERbomb out and bring down the rest of the machine, but usually you see a blue screen on that
02:04SPEAKERand not a reboot.
02:05SPEAKERRight.
02:06SPEAKERRight.
02:07SPEAKERI don't know then.
02:08SPEAKERYeah, like the Intel, the 13900 and 14900K problems are almost all manifest as memory
02:17SPEAKERcorruption detected by anti-cheat or whatever, and they're almost universally fixed by cranking
02:24SPEAKERthe multiplier down.
02:25SPEAKERAs an aside, if you have a 13900K, 14900K, maybe even a 14700 or 13700K, it's definitely
02:33SPEAKERworth going to your motherboard vendor and downloading the latest BIOS and running their
02:38SPEAKERsafe settings.
02:39SPEAKERYeah, I'm on the first ASUS BIOS that they put out with Intel failsafe or whatever they
02:44SPEAKERcall it.
02:45SPEAKERYou should update that one, because that one was a little hinky on ASUS.
02:47SPEAKERYes, they have put out a second one with even more failsafe settings.
02:52SPEAKERIt's more that they changed the failsafe settings that were making things worse to settings
02:56SPEAKERthat were making them better.
02:57SPEAKERSo definitely you want to update that BIOS.
02:59SPEAKEROh, I should update that BIOS like right now.
03:01SPEAKERWell, I mean, not right now, because we've got to do a podcast first, but then after
03:04SPEAKERthe podcast, sure.
03:05SPEAKERYeah.
03:06SPEAKERWell, okay.
03:07SPEAKERI'll update the BIOS after this.
03:08SPEAKERAnd if that doesn't fix the problem, I guess you know what?
03:09SPEAKERThere's only one thing to do.
03:11SPEAKERNuke and pave.
03:13SPEAKEROr switch to AMD.
03:22SPEAKERWelcome to Brad and Will Made at TechPod.
03:45SPEAKERI'm Will.
03:46SPEAKERI'm Brad.
03:47SPEAKERHello, Brad.
03:48SPEAKERWelcome back.
03:49SPEAKERHi.
03:50SPEAKERThank you.
03:51SPEAKERThanks again to Adam, temporary Brad last week.
03:52SPEAKERThanks.
03:53SPEAKERThank you to Adam.
03:54SPEAKERThank you to you for holding it down.
03:55SPEAKEROf course.
03:56SPEAKERHey, the Q&A live Q&A.
03:57SPEAKERSo for folks who don't know, we did a live call-in show.
03:59SPEAKEROh, I did a live call-in show last week.
04:02SPEAKERI guess last week, yeah.
04:04SPEAKERAnd it was a lot of fun.
04:05SPEAKERIt was really good.
04:06SPEAKERI think we'll do it again sometime if you're down.
04:08SPEAKERYes, for sure.
04:09SPEAKERThat does sound fun.
04:10SPEAKERWhat did you do for a visual?
04:13SPEAKERI should go pull it up, but.
04:15SPEAKERSo I thought people were going to ask me computer questions and I was going to have a browser
04:20SPEAKERavailable to do the Googling.
04:23SPEAKERAnd it turns out nobody asked a question that required the browser.
04:25SPEAKERSo it was a picture of me in a corner and then the browser big with a gray screen on
04:30SPEAKERfor an hour.
04:31SPEAKERSo, you know.
04:32SPEAKERJust sitting there?
04:33SPEAKERYeah.
04:34SPEAKERI think the next time I'll probably do the big headshot.
04:35SPEAKERI don't know.
04:36SPEAKERBut that's easy enough.
04:37SPEAKERWe can, we can, we can pipe some video in.
04:39SPEAKERYeah.
04:40SPEAKERThat could be fun.
04:41SPEAKERI don't know if we might turn that into like an occasional episode or something.
04:45SPEAKERWell, I mean, it's, there's kind of two ways I go about it.
04:47SPEAKERSo the other thing is, I, Gina listened and she was like, that was really fun.
04:51SPEAKERIf you needed help call screening calls, I would love to do that.
04:53SPEAKERSo it would be nice not because we got like, you know, people baba booing us or whatever,
04:58SPEAKERbut it would be nice to have somebody who like gets people's names and stuff like that.
05:02SPEAKERCause sometimes it gets lost and then it's like, I don't want to be like, Hey, I couldn't
05:06SPEAKERhear your name.
05:07SPEAKERCan you say it again when it's live screens for like microphone issues or yeah, Hey, maybe
05:13SPEAKERturn the radio down or let's see what else.
05:17SPEAKERThe other one was like, it would be nice to know what the topic is so I can pick because
05:22SPEAKERthere were a couple of times where we had two or three people queued up and I, it would
05:25SPEAKERhave been nice to know what topics were so I could get, if one thing flowed into the
05:28SPEAKERother, then that would be nice.
05:30SPEAKERYeah.
05:31SPEAKERWait a minute.
05:32SPEAKERIs that, is that who Baba Booey was or what?
05:35SPEAKERBaba Booey is from the Howard Stern show.
05:36SPEAKERI know it's from Stern, but I thought that was like one of his just like crew that hung
05:40SPEAKERout in the studio.
05:41SPEAKERIs that somebody that like trolled them over the phone?
05:43SPEAKERIt was, but people would call other call in shows and then yell, Baba Booey, Baba Booey,
05:48SPEAKERand then hang up.
05:49SPEAKERI see.
05:50SPEAKERYeah.
05:51SPEAKERThat was, that was the bit deep, deep Howard Stern lore.
05:53SPEAKERI mean, yeah, look, there was a period of time in the early two thousands when I first
05:58SPEAKERmoved here before Stern went to Sirius when he was the thing that was on live one Oh five
06:04SPEAKERduring drive time in the morning.
06:06SPEAKERSo I listened to Howard Stern pretty much every day on the way to work.
06:10SPEAKEROkay.
06:11SPEAKERAnd yeah, there you go.
06:13SPEAKERYou know, thinking about some of the other big names and talk radio in the late nineties
06:17SPEAKERor around two thousand could have been worse, could have been much worse choices out there.
06:21SPEAKERIs it?
06:22SPEAKERWell, anyway, so the, the, the, not to get ahead of the show, but I went and looked to
06:26SPEAKERsee what the software is like that manages calls to see like what, and there's a bunch
06:31SPEAKERof stuff that ties into like radio station, you know, radio station phone systems, which
06:36SPEAKERI don't want.
06:37SPEAKERI never even thought about there being bespoke software packages for radio shows.
06:41SPEAKERWell, the weird thing is there's ones that run entirely on your computer, but they charge
06:48SPEAKERper minute per call.
06:50SPEAKERSo if like you have 10 callers stacked up, then it's charging you 10 cents a minute per
06:56SPEAKERper line, including your screener person.
06:59SPEAKERAnd I was like, Oh man, no, thank you.
07:01SPEAKERI don't want to do a $200 live show.
07:06SPEAKERBut anyway, yeah.
07:07SPEAKERSo we'll, we'll do it again.
07:08SPEAKERI might do it as a regular, like just a separate podcast too.
07:10SPEAKERIt's it's, it was kind of fun and I've always wanted to do that kind of show and it's nice
07:13SPEAKERto talk to people.
07:14SPEAKERSo yeah, that was fun.
07:17SPEAKERBut this week we're taking, let's say less, less live questions and more pre-baked questions.
07:25SPEAKERSome cues, our monthly Q and A episode did not happen.
07:28SPEAKERI couldn't be here last week, but there were questions that still need to be answered.
07:32SPEAKERLike they were, they were screaming, they were going, so yeah, we're going to turn some
07:38SPEAKERcues into A's.
07:39SPEAKERIf you would like to submit a question, you can send it to techbaud@content.town or alternately,
07:44SPEAKERyou can hop in the discord if you're a patron and go to the cues seeking A's channel and
07:49SPEAKERpost cues in there, they'll disappear.
07:50SPEAKERBut Brad and I, we will see them.
07:52SPEAKERAnd at the end of the month, we may choose to turn them into an A, who knows?
07:56SPEAKERWe get unfortunately way too many questions these days.
07:58SPEAKERRight.
07:59SPEAKERA lot of good ones.
08:00SPEAKERA lot of good ones.
08:01SPEAKERSo you are first, you want to do an email first?
08:04SPEAKERYes.
08:05SPEAKERYes.
08:06SPEAKERLet's take this email from Victor, came into the, the email address, as you said, the email
08:09SPEAKERaddress, right?
08:10SPEAKERIt's techbaud@content.town.
08:11SPEAKERRight.
08:12SPEAKERRight.
08:13SPEAKERYou mean-
08:14SPEAKERThat forwards.
08:15SPEAKERI started to say the name of our-
08:16SPEAKERWe said that on the podcast before.
08:17SPEAKERSuper top secret Gmail account that's not actually top secret at all, but it's much less catchy
08:23SPEAKERthan techbaud@content.town.
08:24SPEAKERYeah.
08:25SPEAKERNo, it's, it's real long.
08:26SPEAKERBut yeah, techbaud@content.town is a forward to the appropriate email.
08:30SPEAKERTurns out most of the Gmail names have been taken by now.
08:33SPEAKERYeah.
08:34SPEAKERLike if you want will@gmail.com, A, you don't want that, I can tell you.
08:39SPEAKERAnd B, yeah, no, none of those.
08:42SPEAKERYeah.
08:43SPEAKERI saw somebody, I don't even remember who it was.
08:46SPEAKERSomebody had literally like John on Instagram or something like that.
08:49SPEAKERAnd it had, it had just gotten stolen by a scammer somehow.
08:52SPEAKERAnd he was like trying to go through Instagram support to get it back.
08:56SPEAKERAnd it made me think like having a coveted username like that is probably just a curse
09:01SPEAKERat this point.
09:02SPEAKERLike it can't be worth the hassle.
09:03SPEAKERI mean, Matt Honan, who was @Matt, M-A-T on Twitter, had that happen, right?
09:09SPEAKERSomebody hacked all of his everything so that they could get his Twitter, get, get his Twitter
09:14SPEAKERhandle.
09:15SPEAKERAnd like the it's unwired, the article's still unwired, I'm sure, but it was, it was haunting
09:19SPEAKERbecause he was sitting there describing being logged into his Mac book and watching stuff
09:24SPEAKERjust disappearing.
09:25SPEAKERWhoa.
09:26SPEAKERYeah.
09:27SPEAKERBecause they hacked his iCloud and started disconnecting devices and deleting photos
09:32SPEAKERand stuff like that.
09:33SPEAKERI kind of, I kind of want to look that up, but like even, even if you had all your stuff
09:36SPEAKERset up such that it was very resilient to attack, wouldn't, you'd still just be getting
09:40SPEAKERlike drive by assholes sending you shitty messages constantly, right?
09:43SPEAKERHey Brad, my name is Will Smith on Twitter.
09:45SPEAKERI'm going to go ahead and tell you, you get a lot of people who are going at you.
09:49SPEAKERAnyway.
09:50SPEAKERAll right.
09:52SPEAKERQuestion from Victor.
09:53SPEAKERQuestion from Victor.
09:54SPEAKERI have a region A Blu-ray that I want to play on my region B PS4.
09:58SPEAKERHow do I make this happen?
10:00SPEAKERSo far I've used make MKV to transcode the disc to MKV.
10:03SPEAKERI'm aware that I can use handbrake to convert that MKV to a PS4 friendly format and play
10:08SPEAKERit via a flash drive or media server, but ideally I'd prefer a lower friction option
10:12SPEAKERfor my non tech savvy partner.
10:16SPEAKERIs there a straightforward way to convert that MKV back into a Blu-ray ISO by getting
10:20SPEAKERme back to where I started minus the region locking and the menus, presumably?
10:25SPEAKERSo this is a comp like there's a, there's a bunch of different ways to do this.
10:33SPEAKERThe thing that you've done is probably the easiest, honestly, like do it for first off
10:38SPEAKERa little bit of a little bit of a nomenclature.
10:42SPEAKERThe transcode is when you change the video format from one format to another.
10:46SPEAKERWhat you've done with make MKV is just ripped.
10:48SPEAKERSo you're taking the video files out of the container that they're in on the Blu-ray disc
10:53SPEAKERand putting them into an, into an MKV, which is a different kind of container.
10:56SPEAKERYeah.
10:57SPEAKERLike you're like re-containered is another way I like to describe that.
10:59SPEAKERLike if you think of, you think of the what's, what's the best analogy to Tootsie Roll Pop
11:04SPEAKERhere, like a Twix bar, it's like a zip, it's like moving something from a folder into a
11:08SPEAKERzip file kind of you're, you're right.
11:10SPEAKERI liked the candy analogy though.
11:11SPEAKERLet's let's say that like the video is the soft caramel center of a Twix and the container
11:18SPEAKERformat is the chocolate.
11:20SPEAKERWhere's the wafer fit into this?
11:21SPEAKERNo, no, no.
11:22SPEAKERHere, here.
11:23SPEAKERI got it.
11:24SPEAKERI got it.
11:25SPEAKERI got you.
11:26SPEAKERImagine you have a chocolate M&M and you have a machine that can take the chocolate M&M shell
11:29SPEAKERoff and put it inside a Skittles shell.
11:32SPEAKEROkay.
11:33SPEAKEROh, interesting.
11:34SPEAKERNow this is a bad idea.
11:35SPEAKERThis is going to be gross, but it's a thing you might want to do for science.
11:38SPEAKERThat's what you're talking about.
11:39SPEAKEROh God, Skittles exterior here with M&M interior, but the point is though, the video data inside
11:47SPEAKERthe video you're taking off of the Blu-ray, when you stick it into an MKV with MakeMKV,
11:50SPEAKERit's unaltered.
11:51SPEAKERSame video, same quality, it's not being re-encoded, it's the same codec.
11:55SPEAKERIt's just in a different format, which is the MKV container.
11:59SPEAKERYou could actually turn that into something like, I guess a PS4 probably plays an MP4.
12:05SPEAKERMy guess is it doesn't, it won't play, my guess, I didn't look this up, I should have,
12:10SPEAKERmy guess is that the MP4 container doesn't support the audio streams that are in that
12:14SPEAKERvideo file.
12:15SPEAKERThat's possible.
12:16SPEAKERCause they're going to be like true HD or some Dolby, you know, some crazy Dolby format
12:21SPEAKERthat's like high def and protected-y.
12:24SPEAKERYeah.
12:25SPEAKERThat could be the case.
12:26SPEAKERThe thing you could do is just take that MKV and use them.
12:29SPEAKERIf you have a disc burner, you could just burn it to another blue recordable Blu-ray
12:32SPEAKERand put it in your disc and it'll just work.
12:35SPEAKERThe other thing to do, so the easiest, lowest friction thing is to put that, turn that MKV
12:41SPEAKERinto an MP4 and just put it in a flash drive and plug it in.
12:46SPEAKERThe slightly higher friction for you, but lower friction for your partner is for you
12:51SPEAKERto install the Plex server on your desktop PC or laptop or whatever, and dump that MKV
12:57SPEAKERinto the folder and then Plex will just kind of work itself out or Jellyfin or whatever
13:00SPEAKERyour streaming server of choices.
13:03SPEAKERYeah.
13:04SPEAKERI think that's one of the, one of those is the best way to go.
13:05SPEAKERLike trying to get this back into Blu-ray formats minus the region code encoding, like
13:11SPEAKERmaybe possible.
13:12SPEAKERI'm not actually sure.
13:13SPEAKERThat would be really easy, but, but the problem is you probably don't have a Blu-ray burner
13:17SPEAKERcause what, who has a Blu-ray burner at this point?
13:19SPEAKERYeah.
13:20SPEAKERI mean, those are pretty cheap.
13:21SPEAKERYou can get an external USB one for, for not a lot at this point if you, if you want to,
13:26SPEAKERbut I, I don't have any experience with trying to remove region encoding because I just rip
13:31SPEAKEReverything to MKV and throw it into my Plex.
13:34SPEAKERThe region encoding is gone when you move it on to MKV.
13:37SPEAKERRight.
13:38SPEAKERThat's, that's, you've already, they've already taken care of that.
13:39SPEAKERThe problem is now they don't have a way for the PS4 to be able to play it.
13:43SPEAKERReally.
13:44SPEAKERYes.
13:45SPEAKERAnd yeah, I think, I think there's other tools that will strip the Blu-ray encryption from
13:50SPEAKERthe Blu-ray file and produce an ISO there.
13:53SPEAKERNone of them are as easy to use as make MKV, unfortunately.
13:56SPEAKERYeah.
13:57SPEAKERAnd unfortunately I think this problem is only going to get more obscure over time until
14:00SPEAKERwe're at the point where nobody even remembers how to deal with it because I think dist releases
14:04SPEAKERof movies are probably going to become pretty rare sooner than later.
14:07SPEAKERIt seems like they might be short for the world and, and also the 4k ripping 4k discs
14:12SPEAKERis significantly more challenging than ripping Blu-ray.
14:16SPEAKERThey are much, much bigger, much bigger, and also the like the tools to use them are more
14:22SPEAKEResoteric and it's, it's not a great scene.
14:26SPEAKERYes.
14:27SPEAKERAll right.
14:28SPEAKERMove into some discord questions here.
14:30SPEAKERYou mean queues?
14:31SPEAKERQueues.
14:32SPEAKERYes.
14:33SPEAKERLet's see if we turn this into an A from Narfinger.
14:37SPEAKERWhen you had more normal jobs, did you have separate computers and accounts for private
14:41SPEAKERand professional life?
14:42SPEAKERI definitely did.
14:43SPEAKERI've never had a normal job.
14:45SPEAKERWell, I mean, okay.
14:46SPEAKERWhat do we, what do we mean by normal?
14:48SPEAKERI think I'm assuming you're, they mean job in an office that we commuted to.
14:56SPEAKERBecause in that case, I absolutely, I had my home PC, which was just my home PC.
14:59SPEAKERI mean, I did play, I did play games on it for work, but you know, most people don't
15:03SPEAKERneed to play games for work.
15:05SPEAKERBut that was the extent of, well, okay, no, I did do work cause we did plenty of work
15:10SPEAKERfrom home.
15:11SPEAKERLike I, I like the fact that was, I did that at GameSpot, but that was actually one of
15:15SPEAKERthe big revelations at Whiskey was how easy those tools were to just access from anywhere.
15:21SPEAKERSo come to think of it, I did plenty of work for Giant Bomb on my personal machine at home,
15:26SPEAKERbut like there was still a separation.
15:27SPEAKERLike I had a work laptop, like we had work consoles, you know, like the stuff I had at
15:32SPEAKERhome stayed at home and like didn't really interact with work in a deep way in terms
15:37SPEAKERof like VPNs and stuff like that.
15:38SPEAKERDidn't you bring like, you had to bring, we use or something home because the way save
15:40SPEAKERfiles worked.
15:42SPEAKERGosh.
15:43SPEAKERWasn't there something you couldn't transfer saves on?
15:46SPEAKERYeah.
15:47SPEAKERWhich console was that?
15:48SPEAKERI think some PS3 games wouldn't let you transfer saves.
15:51SPEAKEROr like Demon's Souls, you couldn't move a save at all, I remember.
15:54SPEAKERI think there was the rare PS3 game and maybe some Wii stuff as well.
15:58SPEAKERGosh, I'm not sure.
16:01SPEAKERBut I think the, so the reason you do this is because anything you do on your personal,
16:09SPEAKERon a work computer, theoretically belongs to your employer, right?
16:13SPEAKERSo if you're, if you're in a position like, like us, like are not normal jobs are normal.
16:17SPEAKERLike when we started doing this podcast, you, you were really careful not to do use any
16:22SPEAKERhardware that, that Giant Bomb had bought, right?
16:27SPEAKERJust because we didn't want to accidentally make something that Giant Bomb owned.
16:32SPEAKERThe same thing goes for, like, it's just generally good practice to not do stuff on your own
16:39SPEAKERemployer's computers that you might eventually want to have, make money with, or make a business.
16:46SPEAKEREspecially true if you're writing code and stuff like that.
16:48SPEAKERSo so yeah, I've always, if, if I've had, if there's anything I've done, it's that I've
16:55SPEAKERerred in the, on the side of using my personal computer for work stuff more than using the
17:02SPEAKERthe work computer for personal, like I never use a work computer for personal stuff.
17:05SPEAKERAnd except for when it was my business and then who cares, it's going to yell at me.
17:11SPEAKERYeah.
17:12SPEAKERYeah.
17:13SPEAKERAll right.
17:14SPEAKERShall we move on?
17:15SPEAKERYeah.
17:16SPEAKERA quick one from Tactical Tug.
17:17SPEAKERIs it possible to easily change the name of your Windows account?
17:19SPEAKERI recently did a full reinstall of Windows 11 as I got a new SSD and somehow managed
17:23SPEAKERto write my own name wrong.
17:25SPEAKERWhen I set up the new account, that's a different one than is the normal problem, which is people
17:29SPEAKERusing their email address.
17:30SPEAKERAnd then it just takes the first like six characters of your email address and makes
17:33SPEAKERthat your username.
17:34SPEAKERThat's the one people usually want to change.
17:36SPEAKERWell, and then it also turns your OneDrive, makes your documents file on OneDrive, which
17:40SPEAKERis maddening.
17:41SPEAKERIt's all, it's all bad.
17:42SPEAKERAnyway, Tactical Tug concludes, I've tried looking online, but the guides I've found
17:46SPEAKERso far seem a little sketchy.
17:49SPEAKERI've looked into this as well.
17:51SPEAKERAnd basically the universal consensus I have found is that it is technically possible,
17:57SPEAKERbut it's probably going to cause problems.
17:58SPEAKERThere is no, there is no like clean global way to do it.
18:01SPEAKERAnd something is probably going to break in the process because Windows just does not
18:05SPEAKERseem designed to accommodate it.
18:06SPEAKERYeah, I think you're better at creating a new user account and migrating your stuff
18:10SPEAKERover manually.
18:11SPEAKERYeah.
18:12SPEAKERAnd I think, I don't think there's any problem at all with that.
18:13SPEAKERRight.
18:14SPEAKERAnd what, I mean, the only problem would be if you've like massively customized your user
18:18SPEAKERaccount and it's just going to be a pain to set things back up, but I think you certainly
18:21SPEAKERdon't need to reinstall Windows or anything.
18:23SPEAKERI think you could just make a new admin account and transition everything over to that just
18:27SPEAKERfine.
18:28SPEAKERYeah.
18:29SPEAKERSo people often don't think about making a new admin account and like Windows has gotten
18:34SPEAKERpretty robust over the last decade.
18:37SPEAKEROften if you have a problem, that's a user level problem on your Windows machine, just
18:42SPEAKERmaking a new user account and switching to that account fixes it.
18:45SPEAKERAnd that, that gives you some valuable troubleshooting information too.
18:48SPEAKERSo yeah, I would start with creating new account and copying stuff over manually and then,
18:54SPEAKERand then go from there.
18:55SPEAKERYeah.
18:56SPEAKERI thought now you would have to jump through the hoops of signing out of your Microsoft
18:58SPEAKERaccount on your old Windows account and then signing in on the new one, which isn't that
19:02SPEAKERbig a deal.
19:03SPEAKERYeah.
19:04SPEAKERCause you can, you can, there's a button that lets you convert a online account to a local
19:07SPEAKERonly account, which is what you'd want to do.
19:09SPEAKERYou so create the local account and the other, create the new, the sort of operations is
19:13SPEAKERcreate the new local account.
19:16SPEAKERMove everything over, probably share access to your user account with the new, new local
19:22SPEAKERaccount.
19:24SPEAKERMake that new local account and admin, and then disconnect the old account and then reconnect
19:29SPEAKERthe new account.
19:30SPEAKERIf you want it to be online, it's worth like, it's kind of annoying because Microsoft does
19:33SPEAKERenough valuable stuff with you being logged into your Microsoft account on your Windows
19:37SPEAKERaccount that it's kind of annoying to use Windows 11 or 10 without having a logged in
19:42SPEAKERWindows account, which is a bummer.
19:45SPEAKERYeah.
19:46SPEAKERI am a little paranoid about that stuff.
19:47SPEAKERI years ago, I made the idiot decision to sign in on a work piece, one of like the gaming
19:53SPEAKERPC in the studio at work at the Windows level with my Microsoft account.
19:57SPEAKERI think I had to, I think it was like, I think that was back when games say like Windows
20:01SPEAKERstore game saves were tied to that account and you had to or something along the way.
20:06SPEAKERIt used to be that you couldn't have a Windows store account.
20:10SPEAKERYou couldn't use a separate Windows store account and Microsoft system account.
20:15SPEAKEROkay.
20:16SPEAKERAt any rate, some strange things started happening after I did that, like wallpaper getting synced
20:20SPEAKERto crawl, I could sync my home wallpaper to that Windows machine.
20:23SPEAKERDid people give you shit about the anime girls?
20:26SPEAKERVery funny.
20:27SPEAKERLook, there's no judgment on this podcast.
20:30SPEAKEROkay.
20:31SPEAKEROkay.
20:32SPEAKERActually, if you must know my wallpaper for literally about eight years now has just been
20:35SPEAKERscreenshots from inside.
20:37SPEAKEROkay.
20:38SPEAKERThat's good.
20:39SPEAKERRemember I had at some point back on those old, those old Dell monitors, which were 1680,
20:43SPEAKER1050.
20:44SPEAKERI just made a fake virtual 4k desktop and ran through inside taking a bunch of nice
20:48SPEAKERscreenshots.
20:49SPEAKERThat's good.
20:50SPEAKERAnd now I have a bunch of 4k screenshots of inside that are fantastic wallpapers I rotate
20:55SPEAKERthrough.
20:56SPEAKERI have the firewatch, like a firewatch concept art and a Outset Island from Wind Waker.
21:07SPEAKERI like screenshots of games with very nice art and a good wallpaper.
21:11SPEAKERAbsolutely true.
21:12SPEAKERThey need to be flat.
21:13SPEAKERYou need like not a lot of detail, like relatively flat, low contrast colors, and not a lot of
21:17SPEAKERhigh-frequency detail because the icon text gets all lost in there.
21:21SPEAKERI find.
21:22SPEAKERThat's why I have landscapes.
21:23SPEAKERYes.
21:24SPEAKERAnyway, the other thing I was gonna say, I don't know for sure that that was the cause
21:30SPEAKERof signing in at work with a Microsoft account, but now Microsoft for like five years now
21:34SPEAKERhas thoughts that I have two accounts.
21:37SPEAKERLike when I sign in on the website and it says like, basically says, are you signing
21:41SPEAKERin on your work or like your enterprise or your personal account?
21:44SPEAKERAnd I'm like, I've only ever had one login with you for as long as I've been doing this,
21:50SPEAKERwhich has caused some weird, anyway, maybe, maybe be a little careful about signing into
21:54SPEAKERdifferent windowses with your, with your Microsoft account, especially if you work at a real
21:59SPEAKERcompany and not a startup or some media company, don't sign into your work computer with your
22:04SPEAKERpersonal account because it's going to give them access.
22:06SPEAKERYou're going to get, you're going to give your employer weird access to your personal
22:09SPEAKERstuff, which is a bad idea.
22:10SPEAKERYeah.
22:11SPEAKERThat's what I'm getting at.
22:13SPEAKERLuckily media companies generally pretty inept at this kind of it.
22:16SPEAKERI feel like just about any example ever, I hear of some company saying like, do not do
22:21SPEAKERblank under any circumstances, especially in information security type contexts.
22:26SPEAKERYou talk to somebody who actually works there and it's like, yeah, they do that all the
22:30SPEAKERtime.
22:31SPEAKEROh yeah.
22:32SPEAKERLike at future, when I was working at Maximum PC, there was an editor revolt when they switched
22:36SPEAKERus to Outlook and they'd made us log into a VPN to get email on our home machines.
22:42SPEAKERAnd that was, they didn't even require us to log into the domain or anything like your
22:45SPEAKERactive directory.
22:46SPEAKERWe, they just were like, yeah, we want to have the mail server not be on the public
22:51SPEAKERinternet.
22:52SPEAKERAnd eventually people complained so much that they popped open an IMAP hole or something
22:56SPEAKERlike that.
22:57SPEAKERSo we could, so we could remote in, but like, why did I need email on Saturday?
23:02SPEAKERI didn't.
23:03SPEAKERWe were assholes.
23:04SPEAKERJust, just don't do work when you're at home.
23:05SPEAKERYeah.
23:06SPEAKERYeah.
23:07SPEAKEROr like I was reading a Twitter thread about this exact subject the other day and it was
23:08SPEAKERstuff like, you know, it's like, Oh, like it says absolutely no unverified, unidentified
23:13SPEAKERmachines connected to the corporate network.
23:15SPEAKERAnd then you find out like some engineer is running some server for something on the,
23:20SPEAKERon the pop, the internet of shit, popcorn machine in the, in the, in the break room
23:24SPEAKERtype stuff.
23:25SPEAKERLike people just do it, you know?
23:27SPEAKERYep.
23:28SPEAKERAnd it never gets caught.
23:29SPEAKERWell, and nobody cares.
23:31SPEAKERAll right.
23:34SPEAKERGirls and smiles writes in do you have any info or anecdotal experience on how Evie batteries
23:39SPEAKERdeal with the cold?
23:40SPEAKERI live in an area of the world that gets to minus 30 C or worse in the winter condolences.
23:46SPEAKERAnd I have not been able to get much of a solid answer even from dealerships in the
23:51SPEAKERarea.
23:52SPEAKERSo it depends on the cars.
23:55SPEAKERMinus 30 is really, really cold.
23:57SPEAKERSo minus 30 C is, is, is very, very cold.
24:00SPEAKERSo I don't, I don't know about that in my experience.
24:02SPEAKERThe Northern North American temperatures like North North, not, not North America, the continent,
24:09SPEAKERbut Northern America, United States of America temperatures, which are typically not negative
24:15SPEAKER30 C typically you want to, if you're, if you live someplace that gets cold, you want
24:19SPEAKERto get a car that has a battery heater, battery, battery, battery conditioning for temperature.
24:25SPEAKERAnd you're going to lose a fair amount of range in the winter time because you're going
24:29SPEAKERto spend time warming up that battery when you use the car.
24:33SPEAKERI assume you're probably parking your car in a garage.
24:35SPEAKERIf you're living someplace that cold, I hope which, which will help some if it stays plugged
24:40SPEAKERin when you're not using it, then it won't, won't burn battery, keeping the battery, the
24:45SPEAKERright temperature.
24:46SPEAKERSame thing happens if you live someplace really hot, sometimes the battery needs to be cooled
24:50SPEAKERdown in order to charge stuff like that.
24:52SPEAKERSo just for reference for people listening, minus 30 C is minus 22 Fahrenheit.
24:56SPEAKERYeah, it's, yeah, I knew, I knew it was the, my, my point of reference down there is that
25:00SPEAKERnegative 40 is the same in both American freedom units and Celsius.
25:07SPEAKERSo yeah, I, I don't like, I would, my real advice is to go and hit some of the subreddits
25:15SPEAKERdedicated to electric cars.
25:17SPEAKERThere's a fairly large ionic subreddit.
25:20SPEAKERThere's a big subreddits for like the Chevrolet bolt and some others, the bolt didn't have
25:24SPEAKERclimate control on the battery, if I recall right.
25:26SPEAKERThe ionic does a lot of Tesla's do, but not the model three, I think.
25:31SPEAKERSo some people you have to heat, like you, it's like the same situation as like a block
25:36SPEAKERheater for your electric car.
25:39SPEAKERBut but also my understanding is the plugs for block heaters for folks who live in warm
25:43SPEAKERclimates is a thing that you put under the hood of your car that you plug into a 120
25:48SPEAKERvolt power that just, it's like a little heating element that just keeps the metal from getting
25:54SPEAKERso cold that it doesn't crack.
25:56SPEAKERWhen you, when you fire up and gas starts exploding in it the, the understanding that
26:02SPEAKERI have is that those don't provide enough battery, enough power to charge.
26:05SPEAKERThey're usually pretty low, low power outlets.
26:09SPEAKERSo you know talk to people who live where you are, that have electric cars, find a venue
26:14SPEAKERthat you can seek out people who have electric cars in some places actually that is really
26:18SPEAKERfucking cold.
26:19SPEAKERYeah.
26:20SPEAKERI don't mind with cold generally, but that might, it might be too much for me.
26:24SPEAKERI've been in that cold like twice and I'm good for the rest of my life.
26:27SPEAKERIt turns out I'm too weak.
26:29SPEAKERYes.
26:30SPEAKERI would not be smiling if I lived there, I don't think.
26:36SPEAKERAaron MT asks expenses with the ever increasing abundance of services, subscriptions, monthlies,
26:42SPEAKERyearlies, et cetera.
26:43SPEAKERHow are y'all keeping track if at all?
26:45SPEAKERAny desktop apps, phone apps, spreadsheets?
26:48SPEAKERI do as much as I can through my Apple account.
26:52SPEAKERYou usually pay a little bit more on a monthly basis, but since I turn a lot of stuff on
26:57SPEAKERand off as I'm using it, it gives me one convenient place.
27:01SPEAKERSince I run it all through Apple pay, all the subscriptions end up in one place in the
27:05SPEAKERUI.
27:06SPEAKEROh, I, that's right.
27:08SPEAKERThey have, they act as some intermediary, right?
27:10SPEAKERWhere they allow you to toggle straight through them.
27:12SPEAKERYeah.
27:13SPEAKERSo I, when I want to cancel something, I just load that up and, and to me, like, like for
27:17SPEAKERexample, things that I know I'm always going to have, I have an 11 year old kid.
27:20SPEAKERWe have, and I like star Wars, so we have Disney, Disney plus pretty much all the time.
27:24SPEAKERSo I just pay an annual for that once a year and I pay that on their website.
27:27SPEAKERSo I don't pay the Apple tax on that on the like a paramount, paramount plus perfect example.
27:34SPEAKERWhen there's new star Trek stuff that I want to watch, I turn that on.
27:37SPEAKERAnd when the star Trek stuff goes away, it gets turned off there.
27:40SPEAKERSo, you know, that, that I paid the extra 35 cents or whatever, 70 cents a month.
27:48SPEAKERAnd then it goes away and I'm happy to pay Apple a little bit of an extra to, to mediate
27:53SPEAKERthat relationship with me.
27:55SPEAKERGritting my teeth, as you mentioned, paramount plus my complimentary CBS interactive paramount
28:00SPEAKERplus subscription just got yanked like a month ago.
28:02SPEAKEROh no.
28:03SPEAKERI've been writing that one for what, three and a half years now.
28:05SPEAKERI was to say, you haven't worked for a paramount company and since like 2021, 2020, I never
28:13SPEAKERsaid a word about it publicly.
28:14SPEAKERI was just like, please don't ever notice this.
28:16SPEAKERI mean, it's not like the best streaming service ever, but it does have the entire run of every
28:20SPEAKERstar Trek on there.
28:21SPEAKERYeah.
28:22SPEAKERThe entire run of every star Trek.
28:23SPEAKERAnd actually like I love a survivor.
28:26SPEAKERLike I'm an absolute schmuck for survivor.
28:28SPEAKERI love really.
28:29SPEAKERYeah, man.
28:30SPEAKERThe puzzle design on the challenges and stuff is so fun because they, they follow Gilligan's
28:34SPEAKERIsland rules, but they make these, they make these competitions that are designed to just
28:38SPEAKERbreak people's will to live.
28:40SPEAKERIt's really great.
28:41SPEAKERAnd as with anime wallpapers, not here to judge.
28:43SPEAKERYeah, exactly.
28:44SPEAKERAll of our shames are out today.
28:45SPEAKERYes.
28:46SPEAKERI have another, let's see if I can find it real fast.
28:50SPEAKERWhat do you do?
28:51SPEAKERHow do you manage this problem?
28:52SPEAKERRight.
28:53SPEAKERI was, yes.
28:54SPEAKERI haven't answered.
28:55SPEAKERYou're much better than I am at this stuff.
28:56SPEAKERWell, yes and no, I have an answer.
28:57SPEAKERIt's going to be deeply unsatisfying though.
28:58SPEAKEROkay.
28:59SPEAKERI just don't subscribe to stuff.
29:02SPEAKERLike I'm as resistant to it as humanly possible.
29:05SPEAKERWe, we have the advantage of having a nice San Francisco public library branch three
29:10SPEAKERblocks away.
29:11SPEAKERYeah.
29:12SPEAKERAnd they get tons of Blu-rays so we can generally even like TV, like full seasons of TV shows
29:16SPEAKERon Blu-rays.
29:17SPEAKEROh, there you go.
29:18SPEAKERSo that's, that's a nice, easy way to watch a bunch of stuff.
29:21SPEAKERAlso just don't watch that much stuff.
29:23SPEAKERI mean, so that's the thing is like, I'm not the TV watcher in the house, right?
29:29SPEAKERYeah.
29:30SPEAKERCause this is like the rich dad, poor dad episode here.
29:33SPEAKERYou know, I also, I guess I should say I also, um, uh, participate in a weekly movie and
29:39SPEAKERTV podcast so that like a lot of my watching time, it goes to that now.
29:42SPEAKERSo I don't watch a ton outside of that.
29:46SPEAKERYeah.
29:47SPEAKERUm, sorry.
29:49SPEAKERI'm trying to find it.
29:50SPEAKERI have another, here it is.
29:51SPEAKEROkay.
29:52SPEAKERI had another email that kind of ties into that subject, uh, from Pucci D1, uh, I'm moving
29:58SPEAKERin with my partner next month.
29:59SPEAKERThat's my first time living with someone in a romantic way.
30:01SPEAKERI'm not like a roommate.
30:03SPEAKERBoom chicka.
30:04SPEAKERWow.
30:05SPEAKERWow.
30:06SPEAKERUh, what, what tech or apps do you rely on in your relationship?
30:08SPEAKERI'm wondering about small stuff like apps that sync grocery lists or whatever, or if
30:11SPEAKERyou want to give me general advice, that's cool too.
30:14SPEAKERUm, okay, well the thing I'll tell you is people get stuck in washing machines much
30:19SPEAKERless than the internet led me to believe, um, that's a universal tip.
30:24SPEAKERYeah.
30:25SPEAKERUm, we, you have to use the least common denominator for tech related things in my experience.
30:32SPEAKERSure.
30:33SPEAKERSo for example, I'm a big fan of, of digital lists for keeping track of things I need to
30:38SPEAKERdo things.
30:39SPEAKERI need to buy chores.
30:40SPEAKERI need to get done.
30:41SPEAKERUh, the other people who live in my house with me, not so much.
30:44SPEAKERSo we have a giant dry erase board stuck on the side of the, of the refrigerator and that's
30:50SPEAKERhow, you know, that, that, that, that is the ones there's, there's one that's a calendar
30:54SPEAKERone that I made on the laser cutter and has like, like it's magnetic so we can put little
30:58SPEAKERmagnets on there that are like, what's, you have a dentist appointment on Wednesday, blah,
31:02SPEAKERblah, blah.
31:03SPEAKERIt's also a dry erase so you can, uh, we can write things that we don't have magnets for.
31:09SPEAKERAnd that's the sole source of truth for what we're doing this week.
31:12SPEAKERAnd then the other one is for stuff we need to buy on the list when we go to Target or
31:18SPEAKERto the grocery store or Costco or whatever.
31:21SPEAKERAnd those are, those are so my answer is just get a couple of dry erase boards, some markers,
31:26SPEAKERmaybe a nice eraser.
31:27SPEAKERYeah.
31:28SPEAKERThat's a good one.
31:29SPEAKERWe have a dry erase board too.
31:30SPEAKERWe don't write on it nearly as much as you do.
31:32SPEAKERWe kind of forget that it's there a lot, but it is quite handy.
31:35SPEAKERUm, you also get, uh, there's like dry erasing type markers that can just write on mirrors.
31:39SPEAKEROh, that's nice.
31:40SPEAKERLike we, like we have a big mirror over a table in the living room and it's kind of
31:45SPEAKERright centrally located.
31:46SPEAKERAnd so like sometimes stuff just gets written on that mirror.
31:49SPEAKERSo dry erase markers, you can just write on glass too.
31:52SPEAKEROh, is it, is it the same exact type of more?
31:54SPEAKERI didn't want to assume that those would work quite in quite the same way on glass, but
31:58SPEAKERyou can, you can, you can beautiful mind up your whole house if you want.
32:01SPEAKEROkay.
32:02SPEAKERAll right.
32:03SPEAKERUm, the sole source of truth is the key thing though, right?
32:06SPEAKERLike you don't want to have your list in their list and then combine then like, that's just
32:11SPEAKERa recipe for frustration.
32:13SPEAKERYeah.
32:14SPEAKERI'm, I'm terrible about like, I've got some stuff that's years old and iOS notes.
32:18SPEAKERI still use simple note here and there, um, Google docs for some things like, you know,
32:24SPEAKERit's it's I'm, I'm, I'm bad about centralizing that stuff.
32:28SPEAKERLike I'd maybe a shared calendar.
32:30SPEAKERWe have been toying with the idea of, of doing that here.
32:34SPEAKERLike if everybody uses it, then it's great.
32:36SPEAKERIf only half of, or a third of the people use it less good.
32:39SPEAKERYeah, for sure.
32:40SPEAKERYes.
32:41SPEAKERThat record.
32:42SPEAKERYes.
32:43SPEAKERI can tell you from experience that that scheduling on a central digital calendar requires everybody
32:46SPEAKERto fully commit.
32:49SPEAKEREverybody has to opt in because if they don't, it's terrible.
32:52SPEAKERYes.
32:53SPEAKERThat's for sure.
32:54SPEAKERUm, what else?
32:55SPEAKERLet's see.
32:56SPEAKERWe, we tend to do just about all the grocery shopping together so that like sharing lists
33:00SPEAKERthere.
33:01SPEAKEROh God, that sounds horrible.
33:03SPEAKERWhy?
33:04SPEAKERLook, when you go to the grocery store, is it a leisurely, like, like do you, do you
33:10SPEAKERgo in there and like walk around and look at stuff and think about what you're buying
33:12SPEAKERand you go in with a list, like a Ninja and just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.
33:16SPEAKERI've got everything on the list.
33:17SPEAKERI'm out at seven minutes later.
33:19SPEAKERUh, I do the former.
33:20SPEAKERYeah.
33:21SPEAKERShe, she mostly does the ladder, but not that red, not that militant about it.
33:26SPEAKERLike it's sweet.
33:27SPEAKERWe kind of generally walk the whole store.
33:28SPEAKEROh God.
33:29SPEAKERNo, thank you.
33:30SPEAKERWe, we, um, much like the library, we live three blocks from a Safeway.
33:35SPEAKERLike the more, the more the, like the more the hand wringing and strife over 15, 15 minutes
33:40SPEAKERcities happens on social media, the more I realized, like, I'm just kind of living it.
33:45SPEAKERYou've been living it for as long as I've known you for 15 years here.
33:48SPEAKERAnd it's amazing.
33:49SPEAKERLike, like the amount of, so the amount of time when we used to live three blocks from
33:56SPEAKERa grocery store and three bucks from the library and three blocks from a retail district.
34:00SPEAKERAnd like, it was, it was so nice.
34:03SPEAKERAnd I don't like the people who are upset about losing all that time in their car.
34:07SPEAKERI just fundamentally don't understand.
34:08SPEAKERBut anyway, also nobody's stopping you from still having a car and still driving places.
34:13SPEAKERYeah.
34:14SPEAKERWell, like we, yeah.
34:15SPEAKERAnyway, don't need to get into that.
34:16SPEAKERAnd anyway, the, the, the Safeway, the Safeway here has like $5 Fridays.
34:20SPEAKERSo we just kind of build our weekly shopping trip around that and go on Friday afternoon
34:23SPEAKERand get whatever's on special and whatever else we need.
34:25SPEAKERThe thing I was gonna say though, I, I had found out recently, maybe everybody else knows
34:29SPEAKERthis, the, uh, the iOS notes app now has just like checklist functionality built into it.
34:34SPEAKERIt has for years.
34:35SPEAKERYeah.
34:36SPEAKERI figured, I figured that was not a new thing, but it was.
34:38SPEAKERAlso reminders.
34:39SPEAKERSo iOS notes and reminders are both shareable.
34:43SPEAKERSo in like, not exactly in the same way, like Google docs is where you can see people writing
34:47SPEAKERat the same time, but like it will diff changes and upload your changes.
34:51SPEAKERSo like in a perfect world, I, we would both have a target.
34:56SPEAKERWe would have a shared memory, whole bag of holding, whatever target that list that is
35:02SPEAKERlike, Hey, if I'm a target, if you're a target, you're good.
35:06SPEAKERSo, uh, often, um, yeah, but, but we don't, we don't, we don't believe in digital lists
35:12SPEAKERhere.
35:13SPEAKERYeah.
35:14SPEAKERDying inside slowly.
35:16SPEAKERSure.
35:17SPEAKERSomebody doesn't believe in them.
35:19SPEAKERWe have technology to solve the problems like, Hey honey, can you go take a picture of the
35:23SPEAKERlist on the fridge for me?
35:25SPEAKERI forgot when I left there, there I have, yes.
35:29SPEAKEROr Hey, I made the list for target after you already, uh, you added stuff to the list after
35:34SPEAKERI may already made the shopping list.
35:36SPEAKERSo you didn't make the cut and it'll be here next week.
35:39SPEAKERThat's a good one.
35:40SPEAKERWhat if you set up a permanent camera pointed at the whiteboard and then you can just access
35:43SPEAKERthat camera from there.
35:47SPEAKERIf only there was some technology to solve this problem.
35:49SPEAKERHey, what are you doing today?
35:50SPEAKEROh, it's on my calendar.
35:51SPEAKERI, well, I don't look at the calendar.
35:53SPEAKERI don't know.
35:54SPEAKERJust, just bring back.
35:55SPEAKERWasn't that the internet's first webcam thing.
35:57SPEAKERCoffee pot, coffee pot.
35:59SPEAKERJust bring back the coffee pot cam and I wish I had coffee right now, except it's a thousand
36:02SPEAKERdegrees here.
36:03SPEAKERYeah.
36:04SPEAKERUm, all right.
36:05SPEAKERHere's a question from MSC.
36:07SPEAKERA lot of, a lot of new names this month.
36:09SPEAKERI like it.
36:10SPEAKERUh, can the average Joe homeowner ever benefit from having a 10 gigabit internet connection?
36:16SPEAKERAre there any scenarios where one gigabit just won't cut it for home use?
36:19SPEAKERUh, currently probably not, but maybe in the future, I'm trying to think like, is streaming
36:26SPEAKERvideo ever going to get to such a quality that it would not choke a one gigabit connection,
36:30SPEAKERbut, you know, take up enough of it that it would be annoying for other people.
36:35SPEAKERI mean, I downloaded Horizon Forbidden West the other day and it took like 25 minutes.
36:40SPEAKERI could, I could, if it was, you know, the 10th of that, I'd be okay with that.
36:45SPEAKERYeah.
36:46SPEAKERSo the thing, the thing I always wonder about here, and we've talked about this before because
36:48SPEAKERI could sign up for 10 gigabit right now, but it would require both like a $300 install
36:53SPEAKERfee and I'd have to replace a bunch of equipment and I'd like, I just don't know that the benefits
36:57SPEAKERare worth all that hassle.
36:59SPEAKERThe thing I was wondering about is any individual, like CDN or content provider, how much are
37:04SPEAKERthey actually going to serve you?
37:05SPEAKERSo I work, so Gordon and one of our producers at PC world both have 10 gigabit.
37:14SPEAKEROkay.
37:16SPEAKERI think Gordon only has a 2.5 gigabit uplink or did the last time I talked to him, I think
37:21SPEAKERhe just built a new computer.
37:22SPEAKERSo maybe he has 10 gigabit to the, to the router now.
37:27SPEAKERHe was saying that that 2.5 gigabit, it starts ever, almost everything starts to get throttled
37:32SPEAKERa little bit.
37:33SPEAKEROkay.
37:34SPEAKERSo but we should, I think we're going to do a video about that over at PC world.
37:37SPEAKERSo maybe we'll have a follow up with the actual answer.
37:40SPEAKERYeah.
37:41SPEAKERI would love to know.
37:42SPEAKERI I'm kind of of the opinion that like anything like always get the faster if there's an option.
37:51SPEAKERIf I had the option of getting 10 gigabit here, I think I can get up to five, but in
37:55SPEAKERorder for you to have any benefit there, I'd have to redo the back hall through my house
37:59SPEAKERbecause the router is in the garage and the I'd have to run probably five.
38:03SPEAKERI'd have to crawl into the house and run fiber, which I could do, but I'm not really super
38:08SPEAKERenthusiastic about.
38:09SPEAKERWhat do you have running through there now?
38:11SPEAKERJust just a cat 5e.
38:12SPEAKEROh, yeah.
38:13SPEAKERI don't know about 5e.
38:14SPEAKERI know cat six will do five gigabit.
38:16SPEAKERYeah.
38:17SPEAKERCat six would do five, but five, I didn't this at the time I did the wire in the house,
38:21SPEAKERthe cat six was a lot more expensive than the 5e.
38:24SPEAKEREver since everything was a gigabit, I was like, I'm not gonna live in this house long
38:27SPEAKERenough.
38:28SPEAKERThis is going to be a problem.
38:29SPEAKERAnd then here we are 17 years later.
38:30SPEAKERYep.
38:31SPEAKERYep.
38:32SPEAKERGosh, there's, I've got two other good questions that dovetail with what we're talking about
38:35SPEAKERright now, which order to take them in.
38:40SPEAKERLet's go with, let's do the Shags Magoo first here, a hypothetical time.
38:48SPEAKERLet's say Brad finally bites the bullet and purchases a house that is currently being
38:51SPEAKERbuilt.
38:52SPEAKERBrad, since you have a clean slate, what type of tech do you want to make sure is put in
38:55SPEAKERthe home at the very beginning and how smart do you want your home to be?
38:59SPEAKERWill, what do you wish you could go back and take out your house with that would be hard
39:03SPEAKERto do in its current state?
39:05SPEAKERAnd what recommendations would you have for Brad tech wise and his new life as a homeowner?
39:09SPEAKERMan, I would put a rack in a central location with power and ventilation.
39:16SPEAKERYeah.
39:17SPEAKERMy first thought is make sure there is a network closet somewhere like out of the way, but
39:20SPEAKERit's still easy to get to and make sure that all of the lines can come into the house very
39:25SPEAKERclose to that location.
39:26SPEAKERYeah.
39:27SPEAKERAnd I would add that you want to make sure it's wide enough that you can do like a rack
39:32SPEAKERmount rack mount stuff.
39:33SPEAKERYes.
39:34SPEAKERSomething.
39:35SPEAKERI want, I want a 42U rack.
39:36SPEAKEROkay.
39:37SPEAKERI just do.
39:38SPEAKERI would do.
39:40SPEAKERSo you want to do yours first, you want me to do the recommendations first?
39:43SPEAKERWell, you just kind of like spitball this one, cause I'm not a hundred percent sure,
39:46SPEAKERbut I will, I will say I am guessing that home ownership, especially new home ownership
39:51SPEAKERis probably the ultimate, like you don't know what you don't know situation.
39:54SPEAKERIs that correct?
39:55SPEAKERIt's like I have not bought a brand new home before because I didn't want to like the risk
40:03SPEAKERof messing that up is pretty high.
40:05SPEAKEROh, sorry.
40:06SPEAKERI meant like your first home, like regardless of what it is, I'm just saying when you've
40:08SPEAKERnever owned a house before, I assume there are a bajillion things you were not expecting
40:12SPEAKERto have to think about.
40:13SPEAKEROh yeah.
40:14SPEAKERIt's an absolutely shit show.
40:15SPEAKERYeah.
40:16SPEAKERSo I, so it's hard for me to answer this question without even going through the process yet.
40:20SPEAKERThe other, the only other one that comes to mind is wiring every room.
40:23SPEAKERLike in fact, conduit to every room, if that's possible, is there any reason that's not possible?
40:28SPEAKERYou can do that.
40:29SPEAKERIt makes running new cables hard.
40:30SPEAKERWait.
40:31SPEAKERWait.
40:32SPEAKERI thought, I thought, wait, well, once you put the cut, the cut point of conduit is to
40:36SPEAKERkeep fire from like, is that it?
40:38SPEAKERYeah.
40:39SPEAKEROh, I thought condo was supposed to make running new cables easier.
40:42SPEAKERYou'd think that, but if they're, if they're empty, it's not as bad, but if they're already
40:46SPEAKERof cables in them, then they're hard.
40:48SPEAKERIt's hard.
40:49SPEAKERI think at that point you'd be doing the thing of attaching the new cables to the old cables,
40:53SPEAKERpulling them through.
40:54SPEAKERI mean, that works great if you're really good at tying the knots.
40:57SPEAKERYeah.
40:58SPEAKERFair.
40:59SPEAKERThe second, the second that gives away, you're in for a world of hurt.
41:01SPEAKERYeah.
41:02SPEAKERI mean, so the thing is if you have crawl space or attic accessible to every, you build
41:07SPEAKERevery room, it's pretty easy to, it's like surprisingly easy to fish, right?
41:13SPEAKERYou need a long fiberglass pole and two people and, and a drill with on a long shaft.
41:19SPEAKERAnd like, it's, it's not a, that's not a difficult thing to do.
41:23SPEAKERI think I did, I did, this is a thousand, it's a small house, but I did the whole thing
41:26SPEAKERin like a half a day and it was mostly me crawling around on my back and, and Gina shining
41:33SPEAKERflashlights down holes until I saw the lights coming down from the crawl space.
41:38SPEAKERThe things I would want are like, like I would want some power or ethernet runs into the
41:45SPEAKERceiling or like like there's these, there's these really cool approximate or not occupancy
41:53SPEAKERsensors now they use ambient wifi signal as radar and they just pick up movement, like
42:00SPEAKERmeat bags walking through space in their general vicinity that from our, from our wifi, from
42:07SPEAKERour 2.4 giga gigahertz wakes.
42:10SPEAKERAnd I would put those everywhere just so that I can control lights without having to have
42:14SPEAKERany kind of timing bullshit or anything.
42:16SPEAKERYou just walk into the room cause they detect people whether there's whether they're moving
42:22SPEAKERor not.
42:23SPEAKERSo like old motion sensors that use IR will, will do the thing where like if you lay down
42:28SPEAKERon the couch or watch a movie, then the lights all turn off after 10 minutes with, with those,
42:33SPEAKERthey'll know that you're there and like you can do a much better logic about internet
42:37SPEAKERof shit stuff.
42:38SPEAKERUm, are those, um, are those piggybacking on your existing, are they using your existing
42:41SPEAKERwifi signal or are they putting out their own separate spectrum or something?
42:45SPEAKERNo, they don't work if there's not a wifi router in the general proximity.
42:48SPEAKERI see.
42:49SPEAKERSo have you ever, have you ever seen a visualization of what they are seeing?
42:52SPEAKERNo.
42:53SPEAKERI wonder.
42:54SPEAKERI have a policy.
42:55SPEAKERYou mean like the software set up for it?
42:56SPEAKERWell, no, no, no.
42:57SPEAKERI mean like you ever seen like a visualization of what the signal looks like, what shapes
43:00SPEAKERare being detected.
43:01SPEAKERBut what I'm curious about is how identifiably human in nature, the shapes that are moving
43:06SPEAKERaround are if you were able to convert what they're seeing into like a video feed.
43:10SPEAKERSo they can tell the difference, uh, no, cause they're measuring instead of measuring, um,
43:15SPEAKERuh, I don't, I, my understanding is that they're not that precise, but it's more like, Hey,
43:21SPEAKERthe signals changed or the signals changed by this amount that they're detecting the
43:26SPEAKERamount of water in the room that wasn't there.
43:28SPEAKERLike you said a baseline and then like they can tell it between a dog and a person because
43:32SPEAKERof the amount of water in the body is different.
43:35SPEAKERSo the amount of radio absorption or whatever is different.
43:38SPEAKERMy understanding is they are not painting.
43:40SPEAKERThey're not generating like a, it's not like a LIDAR map of your room.
43:43SPEAKEROkay.
43:44SPEAKERYeah.
43:45SPEAKERI mean, I, you know, I, I've, I've, I was sure there would be no facial features or
43:47SPEAKERanything, but I was wondering if it could see like, like head and limbs for example,
43:51SPEAKERbut maybe not.
43:52SPEAKERWell, so you can tell, and the thing that I don't know, cause I haven't, I haven't set
43:56SPEAKERone up yet cause I haven't crawled into the ceiling to run power up there, but the, the,
44:02SPEAKERmy understanding is until like the, between somebody who's sitting in laying, and I don't
44:06SPEAKERknow if that's a thing that you train or if that's a thing that you can say, okay, this
44:11SPEAKERis where the sofa is.
44:12SPEAKERAnd if there's water here, then that's a part that somebody laying down.
44:15SPEAKERYeah.
44:16SPEAKERYeah.
44:17SPEAKERThe ceiling runs is a good one also just for wifi access points.
44:20SPEAKERI'm trying to think like what else it's, it's, it's come, maybe this is sad.
44:25SPEAKERIt's pretty much all networking related stuff for me that comes to mind, but maybe, maybe
44:28SPEAKERsome climate control stuff.
44:30SPEAKERI don't know.
44:31SPEAKERWell, so, okay.
44:32SPEAKERWhole house fans.
44:33SPEAKERIf you live in Northern California or places where it gets cool in the evening, even when
44:36SPEAKERit's hot during the day.
44:37SPEAKERYeah.
44:38SPEAKERThat yes.
44:39SPEAKERA whole house fan, which is like a high CFM, like a really, really high CFM fan that exhausts.
44:44SPEAKERAnd what you do is you hook that up someplace where it'll suck all the air out of your house
44:48SPEAKERand you open up the windows at the end of the day and just burn all the hot air out.
44:52SPEAKERAnd that like, that is an unbelievable thing.
44:55SPEAKERIf you live where we live, other, other stuff, like always put in more power than you need
45:03SPEAKERthan you think you need under counter lighting is magic in your kitchen.
45:09SPEAKERLike the under cabinet lighting, like the LEDs that go up underneath your, the lips
45:14SPEAKERof your cabinets is, is fab, fabulous.
45:18SPEAKERIt's just unbelievable.
45:19SPEAKEREverybody should have that.
45:21SPEAKEROh, you just gave me a good idea.
45:23SPEAKERLike I was thinking, as you described that, that would work as a nice nightlight.
45:27SPEAKERYou could just set them to be at like 2% brightness at night.
45:30SPEAKERSo you can like go get a drink of water at night or something.
45:32SPEAKERBut then that made me realize you could like run those along, for example, the back of
45:36SPEAKERyour dresser in your bedroom and make a nightlight, a direct aim, or sorry, an indirect ambient
45:42SPEAKERnightlight that way without having something stuck in a plug and like assaulting your eyes
45:46SPEAKERwith brightness as you walk by just something that's like very subtly illuminates enough
45:50SPEAKERto walk around in the dark.
45:52SPEAKERLike the thing, there are things that people are doing with like, um, led splash lights
45:56SPEAKERon the underside of, uh, of steps, sills.
46:01SPEAKERSo you have like a little bit of downlighting on your stairs.
46:04SPEAKERUh, I've seen people do up lights on crown molding.
46:08SPEAKERSo like if you have ceilings that are high enough, like it wouldn't work on an eight
46:10SPEAKERfoot ceiling, but if you have a 10 or 12 foot ceiling, you can do crown molding where there's
46:14SPEAKERa little bit of a gap between the top of the crown molding and the, and the ceiling.
46:20SPEAKERAnd then you can put an led strip that, that shines up from there.
46:23SPEAKERAnd that's a lovely thing for like a nightlight for a kid or, or whatever.
46:28SPEAKERIf you have the present sensors, if you have the present sensors, then you just set it
46:32SPEAKERall to turn on the floor lights.
46:34SPEAKERSo the lights light while you're walking through the room, which is, you know, that feels like
46:38SPEAKERmagic to me.
46:39SPEAKERYes.
46:40SPEAKERI wonder if the, like that crown molding style of thing could be enough to eliminate an entire
46:44SPEAKERroom.
46:45SPEAKERLike, could you actually replace your lamps?
46:46SPEAKERIs that enough to bounce lighting off the ceiling and like, light it up fully for people?
46:50SPEAKERI think I would have said yes when I was 25 and no, now that I'm approaching 50.
46:55SPEAKERSure.
46:56SPEAKERBut, but yeah, like I think there's like, I would say always put in more plugs than
47:04SPEAKERyou think you need.
47:05SPEAKERAlways run more ethernet than you think you need.
47:08SPEAKERThink about where you're going to have your cable and all that stuff come in and run some
47:12SPEAKERfiber to key locations for that.
47:16SPEAKERThink about if you're, if you're thinking about, if you're, if you're in a state where
47:22SPEAKERthe, the rules about power generation makes sense, not having solar and, and probably
47:29SPEAKERat this point of batteries, since they're getting very reasonably priced, make is leaving
47:34SPEAKERmoney on the table.
47:35SPEAKERYeah.
47:36SPEAKERCause are we at the point, I've been thinking about that for a while, like there's, and
47:40SPEAKERit's going to vary by every, every area is going to, you know, cause power, power bills
47:43SPEAKERare different in every area based on the facing of your house to like, you know, a good Southern
47:47SPEAKERexposure.
47:48SPEAKERIt doesn't matter.
47:49SPEAKERLike, like this, this numb, there's no one size fits all for this number or this inflection
47:52SPEAKERpoint.
47:53SPEAKERBut like, you know, you always talk about people who install solar saying like, ah,
47:55SPEAKERit's going to be roughly 12 years before this pays for itself, stuff like that.
47:59SPEAKERLike what is, what is the reasonable cutoff where everybody should get solar?
48:03SPEAKERLike it's, I don't know, three years.
48:06SPEAKERI mean, I, I, the panels last 10 years.
48:11SPEAKERSo if it's less than 10 years, it seems like you're winning.
48:13SPEAKERYeah.
48:14SPEAKERI have a friend who just put panels on his house and if you're sure you're going to stay
48:18SPEAKERthere for that long.
48:19SPEAKERWell, but if you're depending on, so we should probably do a whole episode about this.
48:23SPEAKERIt's a complicated topic and it, the only reason we haven't yet is because it varies
48:26SPEAKERbased on state, which makes it means that the audience is going to be segmented.
48:31SPEAKERSo what's true in California may not be true in Texas or Arizona.
48:35SPEAKERBut like in California, I have a friend who just put panels on, he lives in the central
48:39SPEAKERValley and he went from paying $500 a month to pay to paying $5 last month.
48:46SPEAKERI think he said with the air conditioner burning the whole time.
48:49SPEAKERSo, you know, if you, if you put the install cost out of your mind and just look at the
48:54SPEAKERpower bill, like that's probably a pretty good feeling.
48:56SPEAKERBut even if, if, if your normal power bill is four or 500 bucks a month and the install
49:00SPEAKERcost 12 grand plus batteries, then like you've won.
49:06SPEAKERYeah.
49:07SPEAKEROh yeah.
49:08SPEAKERI don't know.
49:09SPEAKERThat's going to add up pretty quick.
49:10SPEAKERBut yeah, the main thing is don't do anything too permanent when you start because you're
49:13SPEAKERgoing to live there for a little while and you're going to realize some stuff.
49:18SPEAKERAnd also it's easier to do things like re redoing wiring before you move in.
49:24SPEAKERCause if you have to start knocking holes in walls and stuff like that way easier to
49:28SPEAKERdo that before you've moved in than it is after you've you've lived there for a little
49:32SPEAKERbit.
49:33SPEAKERYep.
49:34SPEAKERAll right.
49:35SPEAKERI'm going to swing back around to this other question that ties into the one, two questions
49:40SPEAKERago from iOS nerd.
49:44SPEAKERWhat are your recommendations and advice for creating and building out a better home network
49:47SPEAKERset up for a medium to large home?
49:50SPEAKERI'm not looking to go full on home lab with rack mounts and all that, but something of
49:53SPEAKERa more prosumer setup than my single ASUS RT AC 88U wireless router.
49:59SPEAKERSo my wife and kids don't have to yell at me that the internet is working well.
50:02SPEAKERSorry.
50:03SPEAKERIt is not working well.
50:04SPEAKERI've heard you talk about your unify access points, but always wondered how you'd suggest
50:08SPEAKERconnecting those to your ISP modem and connecting wired devices at the same time.
50:13SPEAKERThanks in advance.
50:15SPEAKERWell okay.
50:16SPEAKERSo there's something start at the very beginning.
50:19SPEAKERIt's three things on your network that your that your ISP provided router slash modem
50:23SPEAKERusually encompasses, right?
50:25SPEAKERIt's well, four things.
50:27SPEAKERIt's the modem, which is the thing that turns the cable signal or the fiber or whatever
50:31SPEAKERinto local internet with a local IP address.
50:34SPEAKERThat also includes a router often, which, which basically says, Hey, this one IP address
50:39SPEAKERthat your ISP gives you is now shared amongst up to two or 300 devices on your local land.
50:47SPEAKERThere's a switch, which is a device that lets you connect multiple wired things to that
50:52SPEAKERsame router.
50:54SPEAKERAnd then there's the wifi access point, which plugs into the switch and says, okay, now
50:59SPEAKERyou can plug a bunch of wireless devices into that router.
51:01SPEAKERYeah.
51:02SPEAKERAnd all of that is typically in the kind of vendor provided device, right?
51:06SPEAKERLike I haven't, I haven't used an ISP modem in at least 10 years, so I don't know what
51:10SPEAKERthey look like these days, but it's kind of all in one now, right?
51:13SPEAKERWell, so my AT&T one, so I have fiber, so I have two boxes.
51:16SPEAKERThere's an ONT, which is the termination point for fiber.
51:20SPEAKERAnd then there's an ethernet port that comes out of that, that goes into, into the vendor,
51:25SPEAKERthe ISP provided modem, which is a modem router and access point and switch.
51:33SPEAKERYou can break all of that stuff out and that, and that's what, when you're buying a ubiquity
51:37SPEAKERsystem or like a TP link I can't remember them, remember their brand.
51:41SPEAKERBut the consumer, the TP links, consumer routers or Archer, unless you mean something different,
51:47SPEAKERthey have a ubiquity style thing now too.
51:50SPEAKEROh, is it Omada?
51:51SPEAKERAre you thinking of Omada?
51:52SPEAKERI think that's right.
51:53SPEAKERYeah.
51:54SPEAKEROmada is definitely the name of their access points.
51:55SPEAKERSo I guess maybe that's expanded, but I'm sure they have expanded that to some big integrated
51:58SPEAKERcloud thing.
51:59SPEAKERYeah.
52:00SPEAKERSo, so, but the, the point is around your, around your wifi access point is a bubble
52:07SPEAKERof good, good wifi.
52:09SPEAKERAnd if you have a big house where there's like, you know, you can do one of two things.
52:13SPEAKERYou can put a really good one in the center of the house and hope that it covers everything,
52:17SPEAKERbut there's probably going to be one like bathroom in the corner that's behind a hot
52:20SPEAKERwater heater or something that's, it's going to have bad signal.
52:23SPEAKEROr you can run ethernet to a couple of places inside the house and then plug access points
52:29SPEAKERinto each one.
52:30SPEAKERAnd you get two bubbles that cover the whole house and also part of the yard instead of
52:33SPEAKERjust one bubble that barely covers the house.
52:35SPEAKERAnd that's what that's, when we talk about using the ubiquity stuff, that's what we're,
52:39SPEAKERthat's what we're talking about.
52:40SPEAKERSo all you're doing is splitting out the router and the switch and the modem into, and then
52:45SPEAKERyou'll turn off the wifi that's on the router that you have plugged in right now, probably,
52:50SPEAKERand, and, and use, use the, you know, just put it in, put it in a couple of two or three
52:55SPEAKERaccess points.
52:56SPEAKERThe nice thing about this is the access points are typically fairly inexpensive.
52:59SPEAKERLike you can often get a three pack of standalone access points for like a couple of hundred
53:04SPEAKERbucks, $250, $300, or usually a hundred bucks each in my experience.
53:08SPEAKERWe did a, an episode about networking three months ago, would you say it was more than
53:14SPEAKERthat?
53:15SPEAKERWas it?
53:16SPEAKERIt was last year, I think.
53:18SPEAKERWasn't it?
53:19SPEAKEROh, March 24th.
53:20SPEAKEROh, wow.
53:21SPEAKEROkay.
53:22SPEAKEREpisode two 27 from March 24th.
53:24SPEAKERWe did, we did kind of a, an updated network primer might have, might have, or definitely
53:29SPEAKERwould have some more info on the subject that you might, if you haven't heard, you might
53:33SPEAKERwant to go back and listen to yeah, I don't know what to recommend.
53:37SPEAKERIt's a hard balance to find between like someone who wants a better router, like more reliable
53:41SPEAKERhome networking, but also doesn't want to deal with like endless configuration.
53:45SPEAKERBecause there's like, there are nicer options, Ubiquiti, MicroTik, like there are brands
53:50SPEAKERthat have, oh, there's another one, Firewalla is another one.
53:56SPEAKERThey're all like integrated, you know, made by reputable vendors, like integrated and
54:00SPEAKERkind of ready to go, but you still need to know how to configure them from a network
54:03SPEAKERstandpoint, which can be a lot.
54:07SPEAKERSo yeah, it's like, like, like finding the balance there of like, how much time you want,
54:13SPEAKERhow much headache you want to have to deal with setting these things up is, is tough.
54:17SPEAKERSo the nice thing about this though, is once you set it up, generally you don't have to,
54:22SPEAKERyou don't have to touch it ever again.
54:23SPEAKERThat's what I was going to say is like, the configuration might be a little more involved,
54:27SPEAKERbut generally these things, once you get them where you want them, you just, they just go
54:31SPEAKERand you don't even reboot them for months at a time.
54:34SPEAKERWell, and also you don't have to do it all at once.
54:37SPEAKERSo you can just turn off the wifi in your existing router that has wifi built in when
54:41SPEAKERyou get some new access points, or you can leave that one on and turn, you set the, set
54:45SPEAKERthe SS, you have to set all of the wifi settings the same, the number of channels, the width
54:49SPEAKERof the channels, the channels, I guess not the channels that you use, but like the SSID
54:55SPEAKERand the WPA key and all of that stuff has to be the same.
54:59SPEAKERBut if you do that, then your, your devices should be able to seamlessly browse from one,
55:03SPEAKERyou know, switch from one access point to another, just like you do when you're at work
55:06SPEAKERand you're using the work wifi and on your phone and you like you walk from one side
55:10SPEAKERof the building to the other, you're probably crossing six access points there.
55:14SPEAKERThe, the, the, so you don't have to replace the router and the switch and the access points
55:20SPEAKERall at once.
55:21SPEAKERYou can just get a couple more access points, run the ethernet through the house and then,
55:25SPEAKERand then call it a day.
55:28SPEAKERThe other thing is a lot of houses, especially if they're built in the last like 20 years,
55:31SPEAKERhave ethernet already run.
55:34SPEAKERThey may not even be exposing it.
55:35SPEAKERMaybe inside like the walls where your, where your phone plugs are and maybe that your phone
55:38SPEAKERplugs use ethernet.
55:40SPEAKERThat's a fairly common thing because often they would use cat5e or six for, for like
55:46SPEAKERanalog phone signals.
55:49SPEAKERYou'll have to rewire wherever they come, wherever those wires, you have to figure out
55:52SPEAKERwhere those wires come out and do some reverse engineering and redo the, redo the ports on
55:56SPEAKERthem.
55:57SPEAKERBut that's a, that's a relatively straightforward thing to do.
55:59SPEAKERYes.
56:00SPEAKEROh, and the last thing is the, the standalone access points typically will be powered using
56:06SPEAKERpower over ethernet.
56:08SPEAKERSo you can buy a switch that will inject the power over the ethernet.
56:11SPEAKERThe power of ethernet uses the extra four cables or two of the extra four cables in
56:15SPEAKERa cat5e to provide low, low power just enough to run the access point over the long ethernet
56:21SPEAKERwalls.
56:22SPEAKEROr if you don't have a switch that will do that, usually you have to buy a little bit
56:25SPEAKERmore expensive switch.
56:26SPEAKERYou may not want to do that.
56:27SPEAKERYou can buy an injector that will inject power into the ethernet for like 10 bucks usually.
56:31SPEAKERYeah.
56:32SPEAKERAll right.
56:33SPEAKERBefore we move on, I, if you'll indulge me, I have kind of a question of my own.
56:38SPEAKERI've been, I've, I've been teetering again recently, very close to finally buying one
56:43SPEAKERof those Alder Lake in 100 boxes and just putting a router OS on it and making that
56:47SPEAKERmy router firewall, OpenSense or Vios.
56:51SPEAKERVios is getting a GUI, by the way, I don't know if Vios is a Linux based currently command
56:56SPEAKERline only router operating system that is very popular on our discord.
57:00SPEAKERIt's getting a web GUI, finally.
57:03SPEAKERYou know, I thought that they were keeping it real, man.
57:06SPEAKERThat's I thought so too.
57:08SPEAKERBut anyway, my router has a GUI.
57:10SPEAKERNo thank you.
57:11SPEAKERThat would give me the confidence to actually use this.
57:12SPEAKERBut anyway, the reason I bring this up.
57:16SPEAKERAll those, all those, all those little boxes have 2.5 gigabit ports on them.
57:21SPEAKERYeah.
57:22SPEAKERSo I could get, like I said, like I said, it would be a lot more money and more switches
57:26SPEAKERreplaced and stuff if I were to go 10 gigabit with that for my ISP.
57:32SPEAKERBut if I get one of these things, is it worth, is it worth going through the hoops of getting
57:36SPEAKERthe 10 gigabit service?
57:38SPEAKERIf it's getting busted down to 2.5 gigabit, once it comes into my router, I'm torn.
57:43SPEAKERHow much is the 10 gigabit service?
57:45SPEAKERI think it's the same price per month.
57:47SPEAKERI think it's just that.
57:48SPEAKERI think it's just that install fee.
57:50SPEAKEROh my God.
57:52SPEAKERMy head's going to explode.
57:53SPEAKERI just haven't cared so far.
57:55SPEAKERHave you ever seen scanners?
57:56SPEAKERThat's what I feel like now.
57:57SPEAKERMy internet is very fast already.
57:59SPEAKERLike I just...
58:00SPEAKERYou're killing me.
58:01SPEAKERBut again, even replacing it, like I have to crawl, like I've got my router mounted
58:04SPEAKERon the back of this desk.
58:05SPEAKERLike I'd have to crawl under there, pull the old one off, set this new one up, like configure
58:09SPEAKEReverything from scratch.
58:11SPEAKERLike it's not nothing.
58:12SPEAKERBrad, I'm sorry that it would be a mild inconvenience for you to upgrade your internet to data center
58:16SPEAKERlevels.
58:17SPEAKERWell, no, it's 2.5.
58:18SPEAKERBut that's like, again, that's the whole question though.
58:20SPEAKERWell, so I don't, I don't want, I don't think I want to make the investment and go through
58:23SPEAKERthe hassle of getting like a 10 gigabit capable router and switches and stuff, but is 2.5
58:30SPEAKERworth it?
58:31SPEAKERThat's my question.
58:34SPEAKERI would just get a 10 gigabit router.
58:37SPEAKERYou can get...
58:38SPEAKEROh, that's kind of expensive.
58:39SPEAKERYeah.
58:40SPEAKERI was going to say, you get a TB link omata, but it's, it's only 400 bucks.
58:44SPEAKERYeah.
58:45SPEAKERRight.
58:46SPEAKERAnd then the ones, like I said, and the ones I was looking at that would run something
58:47SPEAKERlike Open Sansard, more than that, like.
58:51SPEAKERYou know, if only we had some sort of podcast where you could, you know, reach out to people
58:55SPEAKERand be like, Hey, I would love to cover your 10 gigabit routers.
58:58SPEAKERYeah.
58:59SPEAKERI don't know.
59:00SPEAKERI don't, I don't, I don't know.
59:01SPEAKERI think it would make you crazy to know that you had 7.5 gigabits unused.
59:05SPEAKERYeah.
59:06SPEAKERThat's, that's entirely possible.
59:07SPEAKERI think it would push you over the edge and then you just, you'd just be on an ever ending
59:10SPEAKERupgrade treadmill.
59:11SPEAKERWhat would I even do with 10 gigabits?
59:14SPEAKERI don't know.
59:15SPEAKERI don't either.
59:16SPEAKERAnd, and the way this apartment is set up and how the way I have things wired only my
59:20SPEAKERPC and server or NAS or whatever, are ever even going to touch 10 gigabits.
59:23SPEAKERThat seems like all the stuff that matters.
59:25SPEAKERLike it, I mean, it mostly is, but I'm never going to run it to like where all the consoles
59:29SPEAKERare.
59:30SPEAKERLike that's probably, they're probably going to be limited through a single one gigabit
59:32SPEAKERlink from now on.
59:35SPEAKERThey couldn't share that bandwidth anyway.
59:37SPEAKERYou could put a switch.
59:38SPEAKERYou could get a, you could, is it cat is your, is your long ethernet cat six.
59:44SPEAKERIt might be, I believe it is cat six actually.
59:47SPEAKERSo yeah, you could do a, so you could imagine if every device on your network had a gigabit
59:52SPEAKERof bandwidth.
59:53SPEAKERNo, I know.
59:54SPEAKERI mean, I, I know I get the appeal, I get the upside, but getting, getting enough switches,
59:59SPEAKERreplacing every switch in this apartment is a lot, well, that's not a lot of switches,
1:00:05SPEAKERBrad.
1:00:06SPEAKERThere's, there's more than that.
1:00:07SPEAKEROkay.
1:00:08SPEAKERSo you know, two switches.
1:00:10SPEAKERI would do that.
1:00:11SPEAKERI would do that in a heartbeat.
1:00:13SPEAKERWhat is a, what is a 10 gigabit switch?
1:00:18SPEAKERIt's only a grand.
1:00:19SPEAKERDo it.
1:00:20SPEAKERLet it burn.
1:00:21SPEAKERLet her, let her rip.
1:00:22SPEAKERLike there aren't even a lot of consumer boxes.
1:00:23SPEAKEROh, you know, there's a bunch of consumer boxes now.
1:00:27SPEAKERYeah.
1:00:28SPEAKERThere's TP link makes a bunch a sir makes some there's a, there's a TP link tri-band
1:00:33SPEAKERwifi seven router with dual 10 gig, 10 gig ethernet ports.
1:00:38SPEAKERIs trend net were pretty reputable and that trend that's great.
1:00:42SPEAKERI have a, I have, I have cabling accessories like cable mounts and stuff from trend net.
1:00:47SPEAKERI am here.
1:00:48SPEAKERHere is a six port trend net switch to two of the ports are 10 gigabit.
1:00:52SPEAKERThe other four are 2.5 or 140 bucks.
1:00:55SPEAKERYep.
1:00:56SPEAKERThat's, that's getting into palatable territory at the risk of sounding like a friend of the
1:01:01SPEAKERshow, Rob Zachney, you're losing money.
1:01:04SPEAKERNot doing this.
1:01:05SPEAKERThe thing is though, I need, I need fiber or direct attach copper on the switch because
1:01:12SPEAKERI don't have, this is, this is getting very, it's getting very detailed dense.
1:01:16SPEAKERI realize I don't have, I don't have built in 10 gigabit ethernet ports on either of
1:01:20SPEAKERthese computers.
1:01:21SPEAKERWell, but so it has to run into the Mellanox card, which needs a transceiver and it's a
1:01:26SPEAKERwhole thing.
1:01:27SPEAKERDoesn't it have the transceiver, but the transceiver, you're going to switch to an ethernet transceiver.
1:01:30SPEAKERGod, you're right.
1:01:31SPEAKERI totally could do that.
1:01:32SPEAKERYeah.
1:01:33SPEAKERIt's this, this would be, this isn't even a project.
1:01:35SPEAKERThis is like changing a couple of wires.
1:01:37SPEAKERI knew that.
1:01:38SPEAKERWhat am I talking about?
1:01:39SPEAKERYeah.
1:01:40SPEAKERYou're only halfway there.
1:01:41SPEAKERMaybe I'll, well, okay.
1:01:43SPEAKERProbably you can get a USB-C to 10 gig ethernet adapter and plug that into your PlayStation
1:01:50SPEAKERXbox even.
1:01:51SPEAKEROh, I don't know.
1:01:52SPEAKERI don't think that's, uh, they would not have drivers for that.
1:01:54SPEAKERNo, that would, that would not actually work.
1:01:57SPEAKEROkay.
1:01:58SPEAKERWell, let's just, let's just take the maximal view on this scenario.
1:02:02SPEAKERYeah.
1:02:03SPEAKERIf I win.
1:02:04SPEAKERThat's the maximal view.
1:02:05SPEAKERIf I sign up for the 10 gigabit service and get a router that has 10 gigabit, uh, ports
1:02:10SPEAKERon it.
1:02:11SPEAKERYeah.
1:02:12SPEAKERIf I get one of the ones that has the SFP plus ports on it, which are 10 gigabit, which
1:02:15SPEAKERtake those transceivers, which are modular, meaning the fiber could run directly into
1:02:20SPEAKERmy router.
1:02:21SPEAKERYeah.
1:02:22SPEAKERDo I ask my ISP if we can forego the ONT and run the F fiber from the outside world directly
1:02:28SPEAKERinto my router?
1:02:29SPEAKERI mean, look, as, as your, uh, exact here in this endeavor, I encourage you to do this.
1:02:38SPEAKERI think I'll even authorize the expenditures.
1:02:40SPEAKERI think this is a great idea.
1:02:41SPEAKERThe little, the little bit I've looked into this, it depends on whether the ISP will allow
1:02:45SPEAKERyou to do that or not, but it is entirely possible that I could, and I bet Sonic of
1:02:49SPEAKERall ISPs would be like, yeah, if I could go into the router.
1:02:52SPEAKERSo yeah, I don't know what goes on inside an ONT.
1:02:54SPEAKERSorry.
1:02:55SPEAKERI didn't mean to turn this into like deep networking talk.
1:02:58SPEAKERThe ONT optical network terminal.
1:03:00SPEAKERAll that does is taking the fiber, which is optical, turning it into an electrical signal
1:03:04SPEAKERover the ethernet cable coming out the other side.
1:03:06SPEAKERI don't know how much actual processing is going on inside of that thing.
1:03:10SPEAKERSo, man, you have to ask the elves.
1:03:13SPEAKERI don't know that.
1:03:14SPEAKERSo, so I, but I'm, my understanding is that you could just run the fiber from outside
1:03:18SPEAKERstraight into a router.
1:03:19SPEAKERIf you had that port on it, I kind of want, I kind of want to do that.
1:03:24SPEAKERI mean, I think this sounds like a great idea.
1:03:26SPEAKERThere's no reason to do that and not just use the ONT.
1:03:29SPEAKERI just kind of want to, I mean, look, the reason to do that is because fiber's cool.
1:03:35SPEAKERI don't know.
1:03:36SPEAKERRight.
1:03:37SPEAKERYeah.
1:03:38SPEAKERLast time I went to central computer, I was walking around and they have just a whole
1:03:39SPEAKERbunch of like pre terminated optical fibers that are, that are just ready to be plugged
1:03:45SPEAKERinto those transceivers.
1:03:46SPEAKERSome of them even have the transceivers dangling off of them.
1:03:48SPEAKEROkay.
1:03:49SPEAKERSo yeah, like the technology's there.
1:03:51SPEAKERIt was way less expensive than I was expecting.
1:03:53SPEAKERAnd I was like, maybe I should get put on the knee pads and crawl or belly crawl through
1:03:57SPEAKERthe crawl space once more.
1:03:59SPEAKERFiber has gotten very cheap, shockingly.
1:04:03SPEAKERJust the fiber itself, not any of the equipment that needs to be on either end of it.
1:04:06SPEAKERThe problem I have is that because I have switches on both ends that have the transceiver
1:04:12SPEAKERslots.
1:04:13SPEAKERIt's only 2.5 gig switches, but I could do that.
1:04:17SPEAKERI just haven't, I frankly, I really don't like the crawl spaces.
1:04:22SPEAKERIt's like an 18 inch clearance in some places, which is like, it's pretty low.
1:04:26SPEAKERThat doesn't sound fun.
1:04:27SPEAKERI'm a little thicker than I was the last time I went under there.
1:04:29SPEAKERSo it sounds claustrophobic.
1:04:30SPEAKERYeah.
1:04:31SPEAKERI don't want to get stuck is the thing I'd have to take a shovel.
1:04:36SPEAKERSo anyway.
1:04:37SPEAKERYeah.
1:04:38SPEAKERI think you should do it.
1:04:39SPEAKERThat's my advice.
1:04:40SPEAKERI think it's, I think you'd be a fool not to future future networking adventures to
1:04:44SPEAKERcome.
1:04:45SPEAKERYeah.
1:04:46SPEAKERStay tuned.
1:04:47SPEAKERAll right.
1:04:48SPEAKERLast question here.
1:04:49SPEAKERThis is from hobby daddy hypothetical scenario.
1:04:54SPEAKERDiscord makes a change that allows all forum posts from servers to be web indexed, but
1:04:59SPEAKERrequires your servers to be set to a public read only configuration.
1:05:02SPEAKERIn other words, non patrons can view the contents, but not engage.
1:05:06SPEAKERWould you opt into this update?
1:05:07SPEAKERThat's a very specific question.
1:05:09SPEAKERIt is a oddly specific question, but I, I, I could take a stab at where they're coming
1:05:13SPEAKERfrom.
1:05:14SPEAKERI assume they work at discord and you're doing some low key product analysis.
1:05:20SPEAKERThis is just a guess, but I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm guessing where they're coming from is that
1:05:24SPEAKERthere is a growing sentiment that discord servers and the ephemeral chat type environments
1:05:30SPEAKERare an awful.
1:05:31SPEAKERI mean, it's not even a sentiment.
1:05:32SPEAKERIt's kind of factual.
1:05:33SPEAKERThey're an awful way to retain information, you know, like, like even, even forum threads
1:05:37SPEAKERarguably are not as straightforward and searchable and, and direct as something like a Wiki,
1:05:43SPEAKERbut at least forum threads are easily, easily crawled by search engines.
1:05:46SPEAKERYou can find what's on them.
1:05:47SPEAKERIt'll usually just take you right to the post you need.
1:05:49SPEAKERYeah.
1:05:50SPEAKERAnd you know, information, knowledge that gets shared on discord, it's, it's still there,
1:05:55SPEAKERbut you have to be on the server.
1:05:56SPEAKERYou have to know how to search it up once it's old, like it's not a great way to retrieve
1:06:00SPEAKERstuff.
1:06:01SPEAKERSo the number of like communities that are directing people to discord servers these
1:06:04SPEAKERdays saying like, Hey, for support, just come to our discord.
1:06:07SPEAKERAnd people increasingly are like, I just want to Google a Wiki.
1:06:10SPEAKERI just want to like find the information on the worldwide web.
1:06:13SPEAKERYeah.
1:06:14SPEAKERI agree with this.
1:06:15SPEAKERI think it's, it's a like, it's also, if something ever happens to discord, all that information
1:06:19SPEAKERgoes away.
1:06:20SPEAKERThere's also that my gut reaction is no, I would not do that because I think our patrons
1:06:27SPEAKERhave joined this community with the expectation of it being private or, you know, that people
1:06:31SPEAKERhave, people have talked on that server, assuming that it's going to be a private server and
1:06:36SPEAKERnot just suddenly viewable by the entire world, not that there's anything I'm trying to hide
1:06:42SPEAKERanything, but you know what I mean?
1:06:43SPEAKERYeah.
1:06:44SPEAKERSo I, I would say for me, it would have to be everything after this point is public.
1:06:47SPEAKERYeah.
1:06:48SPEAKERLike if you, if you could flip a switch that says, Hey, full disclosure, we're making this
1:06:51SPEAKERread only for the, for the general web and these, here are these areas that are not in
1:06:57SPEAKERhere, there is that are, and make that clear and there's a clear delineation.
1:07:00SPEAKERI would do it.
1:07:01SPEAKERProbably not other than that.
1:07:02SPEAKERAlso, we don't really have, I mean, I guess we have a lot of tech support stuff, but it's
1:07:05SPEAKERnot, it's like, yeah, I, it's, it's an interesting question cause like I think back to like the
1:07:12SPEAKERold ARS forums and how much of a resource those were for troubleshooting, just general
1:07:18SPEAKERmotherboard troubleshooting.
1:07:19SPEAKERHow many times I find something on Tom's forum or hard OCP or something like that relating
1:07:23SPEAKERto a bio setting.
1:07:24SPEAKERAnd it's a little bit bummer, a little bit of a bummer that, that our stuff is behind
1:07:29SPEAKERa form.
1:07:30SPEAKERAlso, we have a lot lower moderation overhead than Tom's or hard OCP or any of those places
1:07:34SPEAKERhave for their, for their message boards.
1:07:37SPEAKERSo God is hard OCP still going hard OCP is still around Kyle popped up in the PC world
1:07:41SPEAKERchat the other day.
1:07:42SPEAKEROh wow.
1:07:43SPEAKERWow.
1:07:44SPEAKERWild.
1:07:45SPEAKERYeah.
1:07:46SPEAKERThat, that, that used to be my like overclocking forum of choice for a long time.
1:07:49SPEAKERIt was kind of the overclocking forum for a long time, I guess so for early stuff.
1:07:54SPEAKERBut yeah.
1:07:55SPEAKERSo I, I don't know.
1:07:56SPEAKERI like maybe that should be a vote.
1:08:00SPEAKERMaybe that's the real answer.
1:08:01SPEAKERYeah.
1:08:02SPEAKERI'm kind of antithetical if this is not actually being proposed or anything.
1:08:04SPEAKERI don't, I, I kind of think I would just blanket no, because I tend to think that communities
1:08:10SPEAKERbenefit from some kind of barrier to entry, like, you know, speaking of moderation overhead
1:08:17SPEAKERin particular, like I'm, I'm somebody who thinks that for example, something awful has
1:08:21SPEAKERbenefited quite a bit from the guard rails and obstacles there are to posting on that
1:08:26SPEAKERforum.
1:08:27SPEAKERWell, at least in the time when that was a relevant site still.
1:08:30SPEAKERThat's, you know, that's okay.
1:08:34SPEAKERFine.
1:08:35SPEAKERI, I like, I honestly, I think the other question I have is that I would like, I, I almost wish
1:08:40SPEAKERthat there wasn't permanence on discord.
1:08:43SPEAKERLike I wish that things just faded out after six months or whatever.
1:08:46SPEAKERAnd kind of disappeared.
1:08:47SPEAKERI don't know if I can back that one.
1:08:50SPEAKERYeah.
1:08:51SPEAKERI know.
1:08:52SPEAKERLike if there's a place in time for data retention, like if you have a corporate Slack, you have
1:08:55SPEAKERto have that.
1:08:56SPEAKERYeah.
1:08:57SPEAKERI think discord being ephemeral, like I treat discord like it's ephemeral even though it's
1:09:01SPEAKERnot.
1:09:02SPEAKERSo why not make discord ephemeral?
1:09:03SPEAKERI mean, that's absolutely the way to do it, but I'll, I'll think of things that somebody
1:09:06SPEAKERmentioned like a year ago that I'll go back and dig up.
1:09:09SPEAKERLike somebody's like, Oh, you know, so-and-so box that you might like router or whatever
1:09:12SPEAKERor what, or what was that tutorial somebody mentioned?
1:09:15SPEAKERWhat was that GitHub repo, you know, and discord search is not the most friendly search out
1:09:21SPEAKERthere, but you can bend it to your will eventually and dig up stuff like that.
1:09:26SPEAKERSo I'm glad, I'm glad it's still there.
1:09:28SPEAKERCan we do this, this DC actual question real quick?
1:09:31SPEAKERSure.
1:09:32SPEAKERRead any good books lately?
1:09:34SPEAKERWhy?
1:09:35SPEAKERYes, I have.
1:09:36SPEAKERI just finished, Annalee Newitz's book from like five, right before the pandemic.
1:09:41SPEAKERI had it on my pile of shame for a really long time.
1:09:45SPEAKERAnd it's called the future of another timeline.
1:09:47SPEAKERAnd it is, it was fricking rad also owed, nevermind.
1:09:52SPEAKERI was like also Amazon selling it for practically nothing right now, but that's with a signing
1:09:56SPEAKERup for a subscription deal, so that doesn't count.
1:09:59SPEAKERBut yeah, it's definitely worth reading.
1:10:00SPEAKERIt's very good.
1:10:01SPEAKERFiction?
1:10:02SPEAKERFiction.
1:10:03SPEAKERUnless you know, I mean, maybe it's not fiction, maybe, but it is about, you know, going back
1:10:07SPEAKERin time and stuff like that.
1:10:09SPEAKERSure.
1:10:10SPEAKERYes.
1:10:11SPEAKERChanging the time stream.
1:10:12SPEAKEROkay.
1:10:13SPEAKERThat sounds good.
1:10:14SPEAKERI haven't, man, I do not read a lot of fiction these days for better or worse, mostly history
1:10:18SPEAKERand stuff.
1:10:19SPEAKERI picked up the novelization of Revenge of the Sith on your recommendation.
1:10:24SPEAKERDid you?
1:10:25SPEAKERYeah, I haven't started it yet though.
1:10:28SPEAKERI saw a clip going around.
1:10:30SPEAKERI didn't watch the clip, but I saw Matthew Stover, the author of that novel, guesting
1:10:35SPEAKERon some Star Wars Chuds podcast and kind of shutting him down when he got shitty.
1:10:42SPEAKERSo Matthew Stover seems cool.
1:10:43SPEAKERThere you go.
1:10:45SPEAKERYes.
1:10:46SPEAKERI've seen that book referred to recently on Twitter as the finest Star Wars novel written
1:10:50SPEAKERto date.
1:10:51SPEAKERThat seems to be a widespread perception.
1:10:56SPEAKERI heard it described as the finest of the legends, for sure.
1:11:01SPEAKERYeah.
1:11:02SPEAKERThe non-canon canon.
1:11:04SPEAKERYes.
1:11:05SPEAKERBut I think that's a good place to wrap it up.
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1:12:23SPEAKERAnd I guess, Brad, that'll do it for us this week.
1:12:26SPEAKERIt will, yes.
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