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160: Gelatinous Soup Tube

2022-11-27 · 1:02:59

00:00SPEAKER- All right, it's day three

00:01SPEAKERand I've still managed to successfully not buy a guitar.

00:05SPEAKER- Oh wow, so I looked at the guitars

00:07SPEAKERand I talked to my loving partner

00:10SPEAKERand I was like, hey, what do you think about a second guitar?

00:16SPEAKER- Hang on, how old is the first guitar?

00:19SPEAKER- Two years, I bought it at the start of the pandemic.

00:20SPEAKER- Oh, okay, all right, that's a decent spread, you could.

00:23SPEAKER- I feel like it's a reasonable period of time.

00:25SPEAKER- Yeah, let me ask a different question.

00:28SPEAKERHow long have you been playing that guitar?

00:30SPEAKER- So let's see, I started learning chords

00:33SPEAKERback when I got it originally

00:35SPEAKERand I've been off and on practicing.

00:37SPEAKERLike I stopped practicing for long enough

00:38SPEAKERfor my calluses to go away.

00:40SPEAKER- That'll happen.

00:41SPEAKER- And then I started, I picked it back up like three times

00:43SPEAKERand now I'm at the point that I can almost play a song.

00:45SPEAKERSo it's like the new Rocksmith has helped.

00:48SPEAKER- That's the real question, when did the Rocksmith start?

00:50SPEAKER- So the recent, I tried the Rocksmith 2014,

00:53SPEAKERwhich is mostly an electric guitar learning tool

00:56SPEAKERa while ago, like right when I first got it.

00:58SPEAKER'Cause I had had some, a friend of mine used to work there,

01:01SPEAKERmutual friend of ours used to work there

01:02SPEAKERand he had sent me a code to check it out.

01:05SPEAKERAnd then it didn't work great for acoustic back then.

01:10SPEAKERSo I switched to like some app-based stuff that was fine.

01:13SPEAKERAnd like, I got to the point that I could play like a C

01:15SPEAKERand a G and an F and a D chord pretty reliably

01:18SPEAKERand A's and E's and all that.

01:19SPEAKER- Those are all bangers, major bangers.

01:22SPEAKER- Yeah, classics, all the classics.

01:24SPEAKERAnd then I stopped 'cause I got busy doing other stuff.

01:27SPEAKER- I think you need to show her that you can stick with it

01:28SPEAKERfor at least six months before you can have another guitar.

01:31SPEAKER- I think that's a probably a pretty reasonable choice there.

01:34SPEAKER- There has been a firestorm of guitar discussion

01:37SPEAKERon the Discord since we talked about Rocksmith last week.

01:41SPEAKER- This is the power, with great power

01:43SPEAKERcomes great responsibility, Brad.

01:44SPEAKER- There's the power of suggestion is what's at work here

01:47SPEAKERbecause oh boy, the enablers is what we have on that server.

01:52SPEAKER- We should have just called this podcast Brilliant.

01:54SPEAKERBrad and Will made an enablement pod.

01:56SPEAKER- Maybe I should have bought one.

01:58SPEAKERThose deals might still be up.

01:59SPEAKERThere were deals on some Squier,

02:03SPEAKERI hate to use the word knockoff, I don't think that's fair.

02:05SPEAKERSquier is like the budget Fender version

02:07SPEAKERand Epiphone makes a bunch of budget Gibsons.

02:10SPEAKERAnd there were some insane deals on some Squier telecasters

02:15SPEAKERand Epiphone SGs and Les Pauls, like 170 bucks.

02:20SPEAKER- Yeah, they're like cheap starter guitars,

02:22SPEAKERwhich is a fine place to learn, I think.

02:24SPEAKER- Like when I was into this stuff 20, 25 years ago,

02:26SPEAKERlike the Squier was kind of looked down on as not very good,

02:30SPEAKERbut apparently the manufacturing on those

02:32SPEAKERhas gotten way, way better

02:33SPEAKERand they're actually like totally legit guitars now.

02:35SPEAKERWe should maybe, no, no, we have to move on.

02:38SPEAKER- Should we do a guitar episode?

02:39SPEAKER- No. - Is that what you're saying?

02:40SPEAKER- We should not.

02:41SPEAKERI don't need another musical instrument

02:43SPEAKERthat I'm probably not gonna play enough.

02:44SPEAKER- Okay, so I think once you do six months of piano,

02:46SPEAKERyou're allowed to buy a guitar, Brad, that's the thing.

02:52SPEAKER- I bought something stupid the other day.

02:54SPEAKER- Oh.

02:55SPEAKER- Well, so I've been playing that Atari 50th thing

02:58SPEAKERa fair amount. - Yes, yes, so good.

03:00SPEAKER- Like playing is maybe not the right word

03:02SPEAKER'cause it's kind of more of like a,

03:03SPEAKERhey, here's me learning about some games

03:06SPEAKERthat I didn't have a lot of exposure to.

03:08SPEAKER- Totally, I was probably, I'd spent like two hours

03:10SPEAKERin that thing before I ever booted up one of the games.

03:12SPEAKER- Yeah, exactly.

03:14SPEAKERBut then I got to the point where I'm like,

03:15SPEAKERoh, here's some bangers I wanna play.

03:17SPEAKERAnd I had talked to some friends

03:19SPEAKERwho work at Digital Extreme Eclipse,

03:23SPEAKERDigital Eclipse, sorry, a few weeks ago

03:26SPEAKERabout this exact thing.

03:28SPEAKERAnd I was like, ah, I'm not gonna buy an Atari,

03:30SPEAKERit's stupid to buy Atari.

03:31SPEAKERAnd then I started playing "Templates"

03:33SPEAKERand I was like, oh man, I wanna have something that spins.

03:35SPEAKERAnd I started playing "Combat" and I was like,

03:36SPEAKERI want a stick.

03:37SPEAKERAnd I was like, like caverns of Mars.

03:40SPEAKERI was like, it's not the same with a game pad.

03:42SPEAKER- I see where this was going.

03:43SPEAKER- So I went to Amazon and I bought one of those

03:46SPEAKERAtari VCS wireless joysticks,

03:49SPEAKERthe ones with the spinner handle.

03:50SPEAKER- Oh, what?

03:51SPEAKER- Yeah.

03:52SPEAKER- Were those made for those recent,

03:54SPEAKERthe recent quote unquote Atari, that x86 box?

03:56SPEAKER- Yes, they were made for that x86 box.

04:00SPEAKERIt is a shape like the classic Atari joystick.

04:02SPEAKERIt's a square with round, it has rounded edges,

04:05SPEAKERso you don't get the weird callus in the palm of your hand.

04:07SPEAKER- I am looking this up as we speak.

04:09SPEAKER- It is a vertical stick with a button

04:12SPEAKERand the handle is also a spinner.

04:15SPEAKERAnd my friend, our mutual, our friend Jeremy Williams,

04:19SPEAKERwho wrote "Vector Sector" over on the Atari 50th thing,

04:24SPEAKERhad given it high marks,

04:26SPEAKEReven though it was kind of expensive.

04:27SPEAKERSo I originally, I looked at like,

04:29SPEAKER'cause people make USB paddle controllers,

04:31SPEAKERpeople make USB Atari joysticks.

04:33SPEAKERAnd I was like, I'm gonna get one of each of those.

04:34SPEAKERAnd then I was like, wait,

04:36SPEAKERfor the same price as buying one of each of those,

04:38SPEAKERI can just buy this thing that does both things

04:40SPEAKERand is the only one thing that I have to store

04:43SPEAKERinstead of two.

04:44SPEAKERSo I'll let you know how it goes, it comes today.

04:46SPEAKER- That looks pretty cool.

04:47SPEAKERMan, I still want one of those things.

04:49SPEAKERWhat do they call the actual console?

04:50SPEAKERIs it the VCS?

04:52SPEAKER- The VCS. - The VCS name?

04:53SPEAKER- Yeah. - Again, let me see.

04:55SPEAKER- Was it good?

04:56SPEAKERI'm always a little skeptical of those things now.

04:58SPEAKER- Not for 400 bucks.

04:59SPEAKERI'm still just sore from a year ago

05:02SPEAKERwhen GameStop was liquidating theirs for $99.

05:05SPEAKERLike it was not worth 400 bucks,

05:07SPEAKERbut it was like a decent AMD APU with like okay graphics.

05:10SPEAKERLike it would have been a decent little like set top

05:12SPEAKERand you can install whatever OS you want on it.

05:14SPEAKERSo like for a hundred bucks and it looks cool

05:16SPEAKER'cause it's got wood paneling.

05:17SPEAKER- Yeah, they're 300 bucks now, that seems like a lot.

05:19SPEAKER- Yeah, I wouldn't pay more than a hundred for one,

05:21SPEAKERbut if they go back on sale, speaking of paying a hundred,

05:25SPEAKERI bought a hundred dollars worth of Christmas lights

05:27SPEAKERthe other day.

05:27SPEAKER- Ooh, what'd you get?

05:28SPEAKER- Professional Christmas lights.

05:31SPEAKER- Oh, professional, eh?

05:33SPEAKERI had a similar adventure last week.

05:39SPEAKERBest Buy was selling the fancy twinkly lights,

05:41SPEAKERthe ones that you can upload patterns to

05:43SPEAKERthat are RGB individually lit.

05:46SPEAKER- You mean capital T twinkly like the brand.

05:49SPEAKER- Capital T the brand twinkly from Finland or whatever.

05:52SPEAKERAnd I went out and screwed hooks

05:56SPEAKERinto the underside of the eaves of the house.

05:58SPEAKERAnd now I have a permanent light installation on the house.

06:02SPEAKERSo far I've gotten a lot of positive feedback

06:04SPEAKERfrom the neighbors.

06:05SPEAKER- That's awesome.

06:05SPEAKERWait, they're never coming down?

06:06SPEAKER- I don't think I'm ever gonna,

06:07SPEAKERI think they're all season lights now.

06:09SPEAKER- What have you displayed on them?

06:11SPEAKER- So let's see, the first choice was made by my daughter.

06:14SPEAKERWe picked a rainbow that goes from one side to the other.

06:17SPEAKERThat was pretty cool.

06:19SPEAKERWe do a, we have a candy cane, red and white

06:21SPEAKERthat just alternates red and white

06:22SPEAKERand moves slowly back and forth across the house.

06:26SPEAKERWe have some classic Christmas multicolor lights,

06:31SPEAKERthe blue and the purple and the orange and the red.

06:34SPEAKERAnd we have an Italian flag speckle pattern

06:39SPEAKERthat kind of twinkles red, green and white all the time.

06:42SPEAKERSo that seems festive too.

06:44SPEAKER- What would you say is the resolution

06:45SPEAKERof your Christmas light screen?

06:48SPEAKER- Well, let's see, it's 600 lights

06:50SPEAKERand it's across about 75 feet.

06:54SPEAKER- Is it a net or a line?

06:56SPEAKER- It's a line, but I doubled up.

06:58SPEAKER- Oh, okay.

06:59SPEAKER- I bought the 600 light strand, which is 150 feet,

07:03SPEAKERbut the front, the amount of coverage I needed

07:05SPEAKERwas almost exactly, it was like 76 feet.

07:07SPEAKERSo there's one foot of space that's not doubled up,

07:10SPEAKERbut everywhere else is doubled up.

07:12SPEAKER- Now these are the ones you scan with the phone app

07:15SPEAKERthat models their spatial arrangement.

07:17SPEAKER- Yeah, you 3D map them.

07:18SPEAKERI got to do a better job with it

07:19SPEAKER'cause it's a little tricky.

07:20SPEAKER- I don't know why, for some reason I was thinking

07:22SPEAKERlike you should put Nyan Cat on there.

07:25SPEAKER- So I don't know if I could get a Nyan Cat

07:27SPEAKER'cause it's only one line.

07:28SPEAKERSo it's like-

07:29SPEAKER- That's the thing, you're gonna need way more lines.

07:32SPEAKER- I mean, so look, they were kind of expensive,

07:37SPEAKERbut let's see, it's 600 dots divided by 75 feet

07:42SPEAKERdivided by 12 inches in a feet.

07:47SPEAKERSo it's 0.6667 lines, dots per inch.

07:51SPEAKERIt's a little low res compared to what we're used to

07:54SPEAKERon a phone.

07:56SPEAKER- I think I can do the Knight Rider thing though.

07:58SPEAKER- And where it goes womp womp and the red goes,

08:00SPEAKERjust goes across the front of the house.

08:01SPEAKER- Okay, do it.

08:02SPEAKERSo you need to set up speaker outside.

08:05SPEAKER- Yeah, that's the next, that's for,

08:07SPEAKERonce we get out of the holiday season,

08:08SPEAKERonce we get out of the festive time,

08:10SPEAKERthe house is just gonna be kit.

08:11SPEAKER- Hey.

08:12SPEAKER(laughing)

08:15SPEAKERNothing says holidays like Michael Knight, okay?

08:17SPEAKER(upbeat music)

08:35SPEAKER(upbeat music continues)

08:46SPEAKER- Welcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod, I'm Will.

08:49SPEAKER- I'm Brad, hello.

08:50SPEAKER- Hello, you sound good today.

08:52SPEAKERYou sound like you're feeling back,

08:53SPEAKERyou're out of the weather, you're above the weather.

08:56SPEAKER- Getting there?

08:57SPEAKER- Getting there, it's been a long haul, man.

08:59SPEAKER- It sucks, it's not a good time.

09:02SPEAKER- No, it's not.

09:05SPEAKER- Brad, it is, we've reached the end of the month,

09:07SPEAKERwhich as we all know means,

09:09SPEAKERit's time to turn the Q's into the A's.

09:11SPEAKER- That's right.

09:12SPEAKERI'm thankful for the copious bounty of questions

09:14SPEAKERthat our illustrious Discord dwellers sent us this month.

09:18SPEAKERDid you check the inbox?

09:20SPEAKER- Yeah, I did, but before we get to that,

09:22SPEAKERbefore we get to that, hey, shout out to your mom,

09:25SPEAKER'cause we made her Buckley cast roll again.

09:26SPEAKER- Oh no.

09:27SPEAKER(laughing)

09:28SPEAKEREvery time you talk about this-

09:30SPEAKER- Say hello to your mother for me, Brad.

09:31SPEAKER- Every time you talk about this,

09:32SPEAKERI feel more and more guilty

09:33SPEAKERthat I have not dug up that recipe.

09:35SPEAKER- Oh, I have the recipe.

09:36SPEAKERI didn't know if it was okay to share.

09:37SPEAKER- Oh, can you send it to me?

09:39SPEAKER- Yeah, I'll send it to you.

09:40SPEAKER- I am 99% sure we had literally

09:43SPEAKERthis exact conversation last year.

09:45SPEAKER- We've done this, this is two years running.

09:46SPEAKERWe've had this conversation now.

09:47SPEAKER- Either you send it to me and I didn't do anything with it

09:50SPEAKERor you didn't send it to me, I don't know which.

09:52SPEAKERSomebody dropped the ball somewhere.

09:54SPEAKER- Look, it's possible that the ball was dropped.

09:57SPEAKERThe point is the broccoli casserole

09:58SPEAKERis the number one item on our table at Thanksgiving.

10:03SPEAKER- Really? - These days.

10:04SPEAKER- Yeah, it's got the cream of mushroom soup, right?

10:08SPEAKER- I mean, look, all good casseroles start

10:10SPEAKERwith cream of mushroom soup.

10:11SPEAKER- Well, yeah, fair.

10:12SPEAKER- It's got cream of mushroom soup,

10:12SPEAKERbut the secret ingredient is stuffing.

10:15SPEAKER- Yes. - Yeah, it's good stuff.

10:17SPEAKER- Did you ever just, oh yes, thank you to my mom.

10:21SPEAKER- Thank you to your mom for a great broccoli casserole.

10:23SPEAKERDid you ever just eat

10:24SPEAKERthe Campbell's cream of mushroom soup as soup?

10:27SPEAKER- My mom would try to make that happen

10:30SPEAKERmultiple times in my youth.

10:31SPEAKERShe was like, "You'd really like this if you tried it."

10:34SPEAKERI was like, "Fuck off,

10:35SPEAKER"I'm not eating cream of mushroom soup."

10:36SPEAKER- Oh man, I love that stuff.

10:39SPEAKER- I mean, look, there's an appeal.

10:41SPEAKERWhen you squeeze it out of the can

10:42SPEAKERand it's like the solid piece of mushroom jelly,

10:45SPEAKERit's like gelatinous soup tube.

10:48SPEAKERYeah, I feel like that would schmear

10:50SPEAKERon a cracker pretty good.

10:51SPEAKER- Oh yeah, hmm, hmm, hmm.

10:53SPEAKER- Also shorten your life dramatically, so.

10:55SPEAKER- Yes, I mean, that was my standard.

10:57SPEAKERMy SOP was to crumble a bunch of saltine crackers

11:01SPEAKERon top of it.

11:02SPEAKER- Okay, so our normal,

11:04SPEAKERlike our nightmare bad canned food when I was a kid

11:07SPEAKERwas we always had some of those smoked oysters around

11:09SPEAKERin the can, like the fake artificial smoked oysters.

11:13SPEAKERAnd you put those on a saltine,

11:14SPEAKERlike a couple of those on a saltine.

11:17SPEAKER- I'm sure we've talked about all this before.

11:19SPEAKERVienna sausages.

11:21SPEAKER- Oh yeah, put them in the mustard.

11:23SPEAKERWe didn't do potted meat.

11:24SPEAKERThat was a bridge too far for my mom.

11:26SPEAKER- Potted meat was around in my house a lot.

11:30SPEAKERLet's say.

11:31SPEAKER- Yeah, Vienna sausages were like a,

11:34SPEAKERoh, you're hungry?

11:34SPEAKERJust go get a can of Vienna sausages and a snack for us.

11:38SPEAKER- Yep, yep, all right.

11:39SPEAKER- It's weird that my whole family

11:40SPEAKERhas heart blood pressure problems.

11:42SPEAKERWhat a weird coincidence.

11:43SPEAKER- It is a common affliction in that part of the country,

11:47SPEAKERlet's say.

11:50SPEAKER- So this is the Q's into A's episode of the podcast,

11:54SPEAKERas we alluded to previously.

11:55SPEAKERIf you have a question, you can send them

11:56SPEAKERto techpod@content.town.

12:02SPEAKER- You're scrunching up your.

12:03SPEAKER- I couldn't remember.

12:04SPEAKERI was like, shit, I'm blanking.

12:07SPEAKERWe've done this a hundred times.

12:08SPEAKERNo, it's techpod@content.town.

12:11SPEAKEROr if you're in the Discord,

12:12SPEAKERyou can post a question in the Q's Seeking A's channel

12:16SPEAKERwhere it will probably disappear pretty shortly.

12:18SPEAKERI already posted.

12:20SPEAKEROur first question.

12:22SPEAKER- Yes, as is tradition now,

12:23SPEAKERI guess we start with the email questions.

12:25SPEAKER- Yeah, Brad, we gotta check that email inbox more

12:28SPEAKER'cause there were some people

12:29SPEAKERthat wanted to advertise on the podcast.

12:30SPEAKERAnd while we don't take advertisement,

12:32SPEAKERit's nice to talk to the advertisers just in case.

12:35SPEAKER- Well, you know, it's probably worth hearing them out.

12:38SPEAKER- Yeah.

12:40SPEAKERYou wanna hit this first one?

12:41SPEAKERWe have two email questions this time.

12:43SPEAKER- All right, let's do it.

12:47SPEAKER- This is from Marcus.

12:49SPEAKERHe says, "I do love all the streams both of you do,

12:51SPEAKERbut since I live in another time zone,

12:53SPEAKERI have a really hard time catching your streams live.

12:55SPEAKERI usually put your stream archive in a tab

12:56SPEAKERon a separate browser to watch everything chronologically.

12:59SPEAKERAs you both stream quite a lot on Twitch,

13:00SPEAKERdo you as a streamer make anything

13:02SPEAKERwhen someone watches one of your previous live streams

13:03SPEAKERor is it all about view numbers

13:05SPEAKERand subscribers during live streams?"

13:07SPEAKERWell, I mean, obviously...

13:09SPEAKEROh, go ahead.

13:10SPEAKER- Well, did he specify where he's watching the archives?

13:12SPEAKER'Cause I think that probably determines the answer, right?

13:16SPEAKER- On Twitch, I would assume.

13:18SPEAKER- Okay, yeah.

13:18SPEAKERWell, you would know better than me.

13:20SPEAKERMy understanding is Twitch archives

13:22SPEAKERdon't really monetize much at all, if at all.

13:24SPEAKER- They count for ad revenue.

13:26SPEAKER- They do, okay.

13:27SPEAKER- And if, obviously, people subscribe or put bits in

13:29SPEAKERwhile they're watching the archive, you get that money.

13:32SPEAKER- Oh, I didn't know you could do that with archives.

13:33SPEAKERI didn't know you could do bits with archives.

13:35SPEAKER- So even if you're not in the same time zone,

13:37SPEAKERyou can still subscribe

13:38SPEAKERand then you don't get ads during the videos.

13:40SPEAKER- Okay, my info might be outdated.

13:43SPEAKERAt one point, I thought I had heard

13:44SPEAKERthat they don't monetize archives on Twitch,

13:46SPEAKERbut I guess that's wrong.

13:47SPEAKER- So you can always put...

13:50SPEAKERTwitch will always let you give money to a streamer,

13:52SPEAKERwhether they're online or off, for subs or for bits.

13:56SPEAKER'Cause I often get like...

13:58SPEAKERI'll often like log into my channel

14:00SPEAKERand there will be two notifications from times

14:02SPEAKERwhen I was not online for people who have subscribed

14:05SPEAKERor whatever in an off time zone.

14:08SPEAKERBut they do monetize ads as of like two years ago, I think.

14:13SPEAKER- Okay.

14:14SPEAKER- When they change the way the ad system works.

14:20SPEAKERSo anyway.

14:21SPEAKER- Yes.

14:23SPEAKER- That's it.

14:25SPEAKERYou wanna do the next one?

14:25SPEAKERYou want me to read this next one?

14:26SPEAKER- Do you have one more email?

14:27SPEAKER- I have one more email.

14:28SPEAKER- Let's flush the emails.

14:30SPEAKER- Okay, it's a question from Will in Pacifica.

14:33SPEAKERSays Brad, as a long time iPad user,

14:36SPEAKERwhat's your strategy for managing the iPad and your phone?

14:39SPEAKERDo you have certain apps that are phone or iPad only?

14:41SPEAKERDo you keep everything on your phone

14:43SPEAKERand a subset on your iPad?

14:44SPEAKERAre the same apps in your tray on each device?

14:48SPEAKERWhat is your overall strat?

14:50SPEAKER- Well, Will from Pacifica. (laughs)

14:53SPEAKER- It's really weird.

14:54SPEAKERThere must be another Will in Pacifica, who knew?

14:54SPEAKER- Yeah, who would have thought?

14:56SPEAKERMy iPad is mostly a consumption device.

14:59SPEAKERSo, my feeling is--

15:00SPEAKER- Like use it as a plate and put food on it?

15:02SPEAKER- Yes, exactly, yeah.

15:04SPEAKER- Okay.

15:05SPEAKER- You really have to keep that thing clean.

15:07SPEAKERMy feeling is anything with like actual life utility

15:10SPEAKERshould go on the phone 'cause that's the thing

15:11SPEAKERyou are guaranteed to have with you at all times.

15:14SPEAKER- Okay.

15:15SPEAKER- Of course, there's also the ongoing issue

15:17SPEAKERthat Apple remains strongly opinionated

15:21SPEAKERabout what should and should not be an iPad app.

15:24SPEAKER- Right, how is that a thing still?

15:26SPEAKER- There's still no weather app on the iPad.

15:28SPEAKERThere's still no calculator on the iPad.

15:31SPEAKER- Like, I don't know what's gonna happen when dark,

15:33SPEAKERI mean, Will in Pacifica says. (laughs)

15:37SPEAKERI don't know what's gonna happen

15:38SPEAKERwhen dark skies stops working at the end of the year

15:41SPEAKER'cause then I won't have a weather app on my iPad

15:42SPEAKERfor some reason.

15:43SPEAKER- Is dark skies just a weather app or is that,

15:46SPEAKERthat sounds like, is that astronomy related as well?

15:49SPEAKERI think we've talked about it before.

15:50SPEAKER- Dark skies is great.

15:51SPEAKERDark skies is the app that looked at like the direction

15:53SPEAKERthe rain radar was moving on the map

15:56SPEAKERand looked at your location of your device

15:58SPEAKERand then was like, hey, it looks like there's rain

16:01SPEAKERmoving toward where you are and it's moving at this rate

16:04SPEAKERso you're gonna get rain in like 15 minutes.

16:06SPEAKER- Oh, that's awesome.

16:06SPEAKERLike relative real-time weather updates

16:08SPEAKERas opposed to just long-term forecast.

16:10SPEAKERLike that's.

16:11SPEAKER- Hyper local.

16:12SPEAKER- That's amazing, that sounds.

16:14SPEAKER- It's great.

16:15SPEAKER- I'm gonna stop working.

16:16SPEAKER- Apple bought them and integrated it in the weather app,

16:19SPEAKERwhich doesn't exist on the iPad apparently.

16:21SPEAKER- So, oh, did I, did I pet?

16:24SPEAKERFirst of all, I hate saying iPad OS.

16:26SPEAKERI hate saying watch OS.

16:27SPEAKERI wish it was still.

16:28SPEAKERAnyway.

16:29SPEAKER- You can just say iPad.

16:30SPEAKERUn-delay, un-delay, iPad, iPad.

16:31SPEAKER- Do iPad lists 16 come out?

16:33SPEAKER- 16.2 is out.

16:35SPEAKER- Oh my gosh.

16:36SPEAKER- 16.1 is out.

16:37SPEAKER- My iPad has not notified me.

16:38SPEAKERI will say, I think I saw that, okay, yes,

16:42SPEAKERthe weather app comes to iPad.

16:43SPEAKERIt's one of the, oh, thank God our long national nightmare

16:47SPEAKERis over.

16:48SPEAKERAnyway, sorry, I don't mean to ramble here,

16:49SPEAKERbut anything that I'm ever gonna actually need

16:53SPEAKERgoes on my phone.

16:55SPEAKER- Okay.

16:56SPEAKER- Like, you know, there's stuff like Dropbox

16:57SPEAKERand Google Drive and some stuff that is functional

17:00SPEAKERthat I put on the iPad as well.

17:01SPEAKER'Cause obviously it's easier to like read docs

17:03SPEAKERon an iPad than a phone.

17:04SPEAKERBut the iPad is mainly, the iPad is primarily my,

17:09SPEAKERI want to read forums or Twitter or whatever.

17:13SPEAKER- Like Discord or?

17:14SPEAKER- Whatever replaces Twitter or Discord, yeah.

17:16SPEAKERLike I just want to keep up with news or like whatever

17:19SPEAKERand don't want to hold a laptop.

17:20SPEAKERLike it's, you know, it's comfy and compact

17:24SPEAKERand that's what I use it for primarily.

17:27SPEAKER- I picked one up recently and I'm learning like it's,

17:31SPEAKERthe last time I used an iPad, iOS wasn't separate.

17:35SPEAKERLike they hadn't bifurcated the OSs yet.

17:38SPEAKER- Sure.

17:39SPEAKER- So it's been, or at least the UI, the OSs,

17:43SPEAKERI think maybe were bifurcated, but it was basically like,

17:45SPEAKERthey hadn't added all the screen, the screen over

17:48SPEAKERand split screen, split view and all that stuff, yeah, so.

17:50SPEAKER- Which one, would you go one of the fancy new pros?

17:53SPEAKER- I got one of the M2 Pro, I got the small M2 Pro.

17:56SPEAKER- The new, what is that, 11 inch now?

17:58SPEAKER- It's 11 inches.

17:59SPEAKERI basically, I needed a lap.

18:01SPEAKERLike I was either that or buying a laptop and I was like,

18:03SPEAKERI kind of want, like, it would be nice to have something

18:05SPEAKERthat I can just hold in my hand and read with.

18:08SPEAKER- If you don't have any kind of heavy compute needs

18:10SPEAKERin a portable, I would say the iPad is definitely

18:12SPEAKERthe better choice.

18:13SPEAKER- Yeah, and like with US, like I can, if I'm traveling

18:17SPEAKERand I want to record with it, I can record with it

18:19SPEAKERtheoretically with the USB-C just by bringing my audio

18:22SPEAKERinterface and a pair of headphones, so.

18:24SPEAKER- I thought about, I'm on a, it's the first 10.5 inch

18:29SPEAKERPro iPad, which is like five years old now.

18:33SPEAKERI thought about getting one of those new ones

18:35SPEAKER'cause they did just refresh that M2 iPad just came out

18:37SPEAKERlike less than a month ago.

18:39SPEAKER- Yeah.

18:39SPEAKER- I think I'm gonna try to get it, squeeze another year

18:41SPEAKERout of this thing though.

18:42SPEAKER- I mean, I think, look, I didn't, if I had had one

18:47SPEAKERof the early pros, I probably would have been,

18:49SPEAKERlike if I was where you are, like I feel like iPads

18:52SPEAKERshould be five plus years, right?

18:53SPEAKER- Yes, for sure.

18:55SPEAKER- Like it's in the same category as a laptop.

18:57SPEAKER- Yeah, and it's not slow, I mean, we'll see once I upgrade

19:00SPEAKERto iPad OS 16, if it starts bogging down, but as of now,

19:03SPEAKERit's still fast enough, like it's really,

19:06SPEAKERhere's another thing they don't let you do on the iPad

19:08SPEAKERis view the battery health.

19:10SPEAKER- Really?

19:11SPEAKER- Yes, that's the kind of stuff I mean, like they are still

19:13SPEAKERextremely stodgy about stuff that they don't expose

19:17SPEAKERon the iPad.

19:18SPEAKERSo like, I'm pretty sure the battery is starting to falter,

19:21SPEAKERbut I can't prove it 'cause you can't get

19:23SPEAKERto any good statistics like you can on the phone.

19:25SPEAKER- I, so I turned, it's funny, I turned, yeah, like I hadn't,

19:31SPEAKERso I haven't used an iPad with a pencil before,

19:34SPEAKERI bought the pencil, I hadn't used anything

19:38SPEAKERsince they had the touch button on the front really.

19:41SPEAKERThe last, I think the last iPad I had was an iPad Air 2

19:43SPEAKERor 3, so it's been a minute and it's a little bit

19:47SPEAKERdisorienting 'cause it's like your normal keyboard,

19:51SPEAKERyour swipe shortcuts and all that are different

19:53SPEAKERfrom the phone now, which is surprising.

19:56SPEAKERBut yeah, I'll report back as I spend more time with it.

19:59SPEAKER- Yeah, I'd like to hear about it.

20:02SPEAKERAll right, it's time for Discord questions.

20:05SPEAKEROoh, here is the first one from console command,

20:09SPEAKERto which I have no answer, but here we go.

20:11SPEAKERWhy is it so common to see people talking on their cell phone

20:14SPEAKERlike they're going to take a bite of toast?

20:15SPEAKERI cannot, for the life of me, understand this behavior.

20:18SPEAKER- Oh my God, I have no idea, it makes me crazy.

20:21SPEAKER- Like just to clarify, basically talking about

20:23SPEAKERholding the phone sort of horizontal with the,

20:26SPEAKERyes, with the speaker toward the mouth,

20:30SPEAKERor not the, I'm sorry, the microphone rather.

20:31SPEAKER- I assume it's like a result of the older phones

20:38SPEAKERthat only had the microphone on the base,

20:41SPEAKERwhere you hold it up to your ear.

20:43SPEAKERBut like, it's so weird.

20:47SPEAKERSomebody was doing it at Thanksgiving the other day,

20:48SPEAKERand I was like, oh, why are you doing, you don't have to,

20:52SPEAKER'cause like, if you're FaceTiming with somebody,

20:54SPEAKERif you're doing a video call or whatever,

20:56SPEAKERyou just have it five feet away from you

20:58SPEAKERon a table or something, resting up and facing you.

21:00SPEAKERIt's not like you feel like you have to

21:02SPEAKERtalk into the microphone part, I don't know, man.

21:05SPEAKERMaybe people feel like you have to talk into the microphone.

21:07SPEAKERIt's the same instinct that makes people yell

21:10SPEAKERwhen they're talking to somebody

21:11SPEAKERwho has poor comprehension of English, right?

21:13SPEAKER- Or on speakerphone for that matter.

21:14SPEAKER- Yeah.

21:15SPEAKER- I've certainly had people put themselves on speaker

21:18SPEAKERand then start shouting into the phone,

21:19SPEAKERlike, hey, the microphone's pretty sensitive,

21:21SPEAKERyou can just talk.

21:22SPEAKER- Yeah, they're pretty good now, it turns out.

21:23SPEAKER- So wait, where are microphones on a modern phone

21:26SPEAKERat this point?

21:27SPEAKER- They're all over.

21:28SPEAKER- Are they really?

21:29SPEAKER- Yeah, it's lousy with them.

21:30SPEAKER- Oh, huh.

21:31SPEAKER- So there's one in the top, in the front,

21:33SPEAKERthere's usually multiples 'cause they do cancel,

21:35SPEAKERthat's how they do cancellation,

21:36SPEAKERthey have to do time of flight to get,

21:38SPEAKERto be able to cancel out waterfalls and stuff.

21:40SPEAKER- Sure.

21:41SPEAKER- It's a trip because like, you know that big fountain

21:44SPEAKERbehind Yerba Buena in San Francisco by Moscone?

21:48SPEAKER- Yes.

21:49SPEAKER- I was standing out there talking to somebody on the phone

21:50SPEAKERat GDC and trying to meet up with somebody,

21:55SPEAKERlast year or the last time before that that I went to GDC,

21:59SPEAKERand I was like, well, obviously you can tell

22:00SPEAKERthat I'm standing next to the fountain.

22:01SPEAKERThey're like, wait, what?

22:02SPEAKERYou're standing next to the fountain,

22:03SPEAKERI can't hear it at all.

22:04SPEAKERAnd it's because even just holding the phone up to my ear,

22:06SPEAKERit was canceling, it was just ignoring

22:08SPEAKERall of the background noise of the water hitting.

22:11SPEAKER- That's impressive.

22:12SPEAKER- It was very cool.

22:13SPEAKER- That's impressive.

22:15SPEAKER- The technology, it is good.

22:16SPEAKER- It's silly, I have to agree, it's silly.

22:23SPEAKEROkay.

22:24SPEAKER- Let's see what else we got.

22:25SPEAKER- How about a question from C. Bird Song.

22:29SPEAKERIn a s'more, the marshmallow is obviously

22:32SPEAKERalways warm and toasty, but the chocolate is usually cold

22:34SPEAKERsince you're outside on a night,

22:36SPEAKERcold enough to build a fire.

22:38SPEAKERThis leads to a bite mixing wonderful gooey marshmallow

22:40SPEAKERalongside disappointingly cold and not melty chocolate.

22:43SPEAKERHow can this be avoided?

22:44SPEAKERDo you have any other s'more making tips?

22:47SPEAKER- I--

22:48SPEAKER- You're a s'more family, right?

22:50SPEAKER- We make s'mores, I never made s'mores as a kid.

22:52SPEAKER- Yeah, I didn't either.

22:53SPEAKER- We were always a toasted marshmallow family as kids.

22:56SPEAKERAnd my first exposure to s'mores was when we went camping

23:00SPEAKERon an island with another couple of families

23:04SPEAKERand they busted out chocolate and graham crackers

23:06SPEAKERwith their toasted marshmallows.

23:07SPEAKER- Oh, man.

23:08SPEAKER- And I was like, wait, what?

23:09SPEAKER- You went island camping?

23:11SPEAKER- So we were like, we had a boat and a boathouse.

23:14SPEAKER- Oh, okay.

23:15SPEAKER- And we would often like--

23:16SPEAKER- Like a lake island.

23:18SPEAKER- Yeah, on a lake island.

23:19SPEAKERSo like on Thursday afternoon, somebody would go out

23:21SPEAKERand set up a bunch of tents on the good island.

23:24SPEAKERAnd then the rest of us would roll out Friday after school

23:26SPEAKERor whatever and we'd set up and stay all weekend

23:29SPEAKERfor like Memorial Day or Labor Day or whatever.

23:31SPEAKER- Yes, maybe I've got like the Outer Banks on the,

23:34SPEAKERI thought you were talking like ocean islands.

23:36SPEAKER- No.

23:37SPEAKER- For some reason I got,

23:38SPEAKERI went down a slight row and oak rabbit hole recently.

23:41SPEAKER- Oh yeah, that's an interesting story, huh?

23:43SPEAKER- It was because somebody on Twitter

23:46SPEAKERis like probably my favorite thing I've seen

23:48SPEAKERabout the god awful Twitter situation

23:50SPEAKERis that somebody basically said like, okay,

23:53SPEAKERwhoever is the last one out just needs to tweet Croatoan

23:56SPEAKERas their final tweet and then vanish.

24:01SPEAKER- So anyway, yeah, I usually set the graham crackers

24:08SPEAKERwith a piece of chocolate on them close to the fire.

24:12SPEAKERSo like if you have like a firebox around

24:16SPEAKERor you may put some stones there or whatever,

24:18SPEAKERyou just kind of put a piece of foil down

24:19SPEAKERwith the graham crackers on it

24:20SPEAKERso they can kind of toast up a little bit.

24:22SPEAKERAnd also you need the marshmallows to be nuclear hot.

24:26SPEAKER- Really?

24:27SPEAKER- Yeah, like you need to slow roast that marshmallow

24:29SPEAKERso the inside is like,

24:31SPEAKERso the outside is like a hard crunchy shell

24:33SPEAKERand the inside is just molten fire in there.

24:36SPEAKERAnd then when you mash it into the chocolate,

24:38SPEAKERit melts the chocolate.

24:39SPEAKER- I wonder if, so you probably wouldn't want to hold

24:40SPEAKERthe graham cracker right over the fire

24:41SPEAKER'cause you might scorch it, right?

24:42SPEAKERBut could you maybe just like wave the chocolate

24:45SPEAKERaround over the fire just a tad?

24:46SPEAKERLike, I mean, I'm talking like 10 seconds or something.

24:49SPEAKER- Okay, first off, everybody uses Hershey's for s'mores.

24:53SPEAKERMost people use Hershey's for s'mores,

24:54SPEAKERwhich is kind to call it chocolate.

24:57SPEAKER- Whoa, damn, strong chocolate opinions.

25:00SPEAKER- Look, I went, we got to say,

25:02SPEAKERwe went camping with some friends in May

25:04SPEAKERand they busted out some lint bars.

25:09SPEAKERAnd I was like, holy shit, this is a fancy camping trip.

25:12SPEAKERThis is an upscale.

25:15SPEAKERIf you use better chocolate, it melts better.

25:18SPEAKERThe Hershey's gets gooey,

25:19SPEAKERbut it's just all the high fructose corn syrup

25:21SPEAKERor the oil or whatever they use.

25:23SPEAKERI don't know what they use.

25:26SPEAKERAgain, I think you could wave it over the,

25:28SPEAKERI feel like if you had one of those little toasting boxes,

25:30SPEAKERyou could put the s'more,

25:32SPEAKERthe graham cracker and the chocolate in that

25:34SPEAKERand kind of hold it over the flame directly.

25:36SPEAKERBut I don't know if I want a toasted graham,

25:38SPEAKERI like the graham cracker to be cool

25:39SPEAKERso that I don't burn my hands.

25:40SPEAKER- Sure.

25:41SPEAKER- I also want to burn the roof of my mouth really bad.

25:43SPEAKERThat's the goal.

25:44SPEAKER- I haven't eaten yet today.

25:45SPEAKERWe have to, we should move on.

25:48SPEAKER- I also have to say as a beard person,

25:52SPEAKERyou got to be real careful with s'mores.

25:54SPEAKER'Cause you don't want marshmallow in there

25:58SPEAKER'cause it's never coming out.

25:59SPEAKER- Could you, is there a substance so tacky

26:02SPEAKERor so difficult to remove that it would force you

26:04SPEAKERto cut your beard off?

26:07SPEAKER- Like I feel like bubble gum is off limits.

26:09SPEAKER- Okay.

26:10SPEAKER- Yeah.

26:11SPEAKER- Superglue.

26:12SPEAKER- Man, if you get superglue in your face, you made mistakes.

26:15SPEAKER- Yes, fair.

26:16SPEAKER- The, I mean, the marshmallow is close.

26:18SPEAKERIt's dangerous.

26:19SPEAKERYou can get in real, like you can get really fused in there.

26:22SPEAKER- Seems like that would be water soluble.

26:24SPEAKER- Yeah, but if you're camping, how, how hard,

26:26SPEAKERit's pretty hard to wash a beard if you're camping.

26:28SPEAKER- You're just going to walk around

26:29SPEAKERwith a marshmallow in your beard all weekend.

26:31SPEAKERIt's not.

26:32SPEAKER- Yeah, well, and a bunch of yellow jackets and shit

26:34SPEAKERif you have a marshmallow in your beard.

26:35SPEAKER- Yeah.

26:36SPEAKER- All right, good.

26:37SPEAKER- Yeah, all right.

26:39SPEAKERNext question from Retro Snow.

26:42SPEAKERWe talked about this recently.

26:43SPEAKERI'm sure you've got some info here.

26:44SPEAKERI've got some other info.

26:48SPEAKERLet's see what we got.

26:49SPEAKEROn the previous episode, Brad talked about longing

26:51SPEAKERfor the old internet full of blogs.

26:53SPEAKERAnd I assume other ancient stuff like GeoCities websites

26:56SPEAKERafter experiencing the social media exhaustion.

26:59SPEAKERI am a 23 year old electrical engineer

27:01SPEAKERwho has that same longing.

27:04SPEAKERI grew up with older siblings and have fond memories

27:06SPEAKERof the early 2000s internet.

27:08SPEAKERFor a couple of years, I've wanted to make a blog

27:10SPEAKERor website, but I've been overwhelmed by the options.

27:13SPEAKERWhat service do I use for buying domains?

27:15SPEAKERGoogle, GoDaddy.

27:17SPEAKERWhat service can I use for making good webpage templates?

27:19SPEAKERSquare, WordPress.

27:21SPEAKERHow should I acquire a non-Gmail email address?

27:24SPEAKERAnd should my webpages be static or dynamic?

27:27SPEAKERJust looking for info to get started and contribute

27:30SPEAKERto an internet full of personal blogs again.

27:33SPEAKER- So as the new proprietor of shitty.blog.

27:36SPEAKER- Yeah, well, actually, why don't we start,

27:37SPEAKERwhy don't we just walk through what you did

27:39SPEAKERand then if I have anything to add.

27:41SPEAKER- So I think at some point I got an email from WordPress.

27:43SPEAKERIt was like, hey, if you come back

27:44SPEAKERand sign up for WordPress, you can get a free domain.

27:46SPEAKERAnd at that point I was like, oh, they own

27:47SPEAKERthe top level .blog, so I'm gonna see what they have.

27:49SPEAKER- And WordPress owns .blog?

27:51SPEAKER- I believe so, yes.

27:51SPEAKER- I didn't know that.

27:52SPEAKERAlso, I didn't know they did their own domain.

27:55SPEAKERI didn't know they were a registrar.

27:56SPEAKER- WordPress is pretty big.

27:58SPEAKER- Yeah.

27:59SPEAKER- I'm gonna check that, right?

28:01SPEAKER- Aren't they like not a for profit situation?

28:05SPEAKERI forget, what's their structure?

28:06SPEAKERThey're like a weird structure, right?

28:09SPEAKEROr did they get bought

28:10SPEAKERand they're just straight up corporation now?

28:12SPEAKER- No, WordPress is owned by,

28:15SPEAKERWordPress was started by Matt Mullenweg,

28:17SPEAKERwho has, he seemed okay.

28:21SPEAKER- Aren't they owned by Automattic with two Ts?

28:23SPEAKER- Automattic is Matt Mullenweg's company, yeah.

28:25SPEAKER- Oh, whoa, maybe they didn't sell then.

28:27SPEAKER- Yeah, the Matt has two Ts, which is, it's Matt.

28:31SPEAKERLike the story about Matt Mullenweg,

28:33SPEAKERand I assume this, it may be apocryphal,

28:37SPEAKERbut the story is that he started WordPress

28:39SPEAKERbecause he wanted to be the number one Matt on the internet,

28:41SPEAKERwhich is why all the footers on WordPress blogs

28:46SPEAKERused to link to his domain.

28:47SPEAKER- That's pretty good, wow.

28:50SPEAKERTheir stats, huh, 20 billion page views a month

28:53SPEAKERthrough WordPress? - They're big, they're big.

28:55SPEAKER- Jeez.

28:56SPEAKER- So WordPress is a good place to start, I think,

29:01SPEAKERif you wanna do a blog at this point.

29:03SPEAKERLike Tumblr is also interesting,

29:04SPEAKERbut Tumblr is kind of like a weird blog,

29:06SPEAKERsocial network hybrid, and you get network effects.

29:10SPEAKERBut the nice thing about WordPress is I can export a file

29:13SPEAKERfrom my WordPress instance that will let me move it

29:16SPEAKERto any other WordPress instance,

29:17SPEAKERwhether I wanna host it myself

29:18SPEAKERor move it to a different host or whatever.

29:20SPEAKER- Oh, that's convenient.

29:21SPEAKER- That's straightforward.

29:22SPEAKERI mean, I think you have to do some template work,

29:24SPEAKERbut the posts will actually transfer.

29:28SPEAKER- So is that your recommendation?

29:29SPEAKERJust go to wordpress.com and kind of follow the plan?

29:32SPEAKER- So, okay, I will say I wouldn't use GoDaddy.

29:36SPEAKER- Yes.

29:37SPEAKER- 'Cause they suck, they have problems.

29:39SPEAKERI usually do my domain registration at Hover.

29:41SPEAKERI find them to be pretty good.

29:42SPEAKERThey support two-factor.

29:44SPEAKERThey let you lock domains.

29:45SPEAKERAnd for the TLDs that allowed domain privacy,

29:48SPEAKERyou can make your contact info private,

29:51SPEAKERwhich is important if you're hosting domains.

29:52SPEAKER- Yes, I'll jump in here.

29:54SPEAKERI use Porkbun.

29:56SPEAKER- Oh.

29:57SPEAKER- Porkbun.com is my domain registrar.

29:59SPEAKERThey also, they anonymize by default.

30:01SPEAKER- Yeah.

30:03SPEAKER- They're quite low cost.

30:04SPEAKERThey're boutiques.

30:04SPEAKERThey're kind of a neat company.

30:06SPEAKERThey're like a bunch of like old school network engineers

30:09SPEAKERfrom ISPs and stuff that kind of got together

30:11SPEAKERto start like a little boutique registrar in Portland.

30:14SPEAKER- Oh, that's fun.

30:15SPEAKERDo they all have mustaches?

30:17SPEAKER- Probably.

30:18SPEAKER- Yeah.

30:19SPEAKER- Probably.

30:20SPEAKER- The, some TLDs don't allow private domains.

30:25SPEAKERSo like I think .pro is one that you can't get a .pro

30:29SPEAKERif you don't, if you privatize your information.

30:32SPEAKERSo pay attention to that when you're registering weird TLDs.

30:35SPEAKER- That happened to me.

30:36SPEAKERI bought a .us.

30:38SPEAKER- Yeah.

30:38SPEAKER- And kind of ignored those warnings

30:40SPEAKERand then looked at the who is didn't like, oh.

30:44SPEAKER- Yeah.

30:44SPEAKER- And then I actually just got rid of it.

30:46SPEAKER- Yeah, that was my experience with the .pro.

30:50SPEAKERSo WordPress is easy.

30:51SPEAKERYou can point your domain at WordPress.

30:55SPEAKERThat's pretty straightforward.

30:56SPEAKERIf you want to do like the Squarespace,

31:00SPEAKERSquarespace is more for like landing pages

31:01SPEAKERand business pages.

31:03SPEAKERThen like you can do a blog on Squarespace,

31:05SPEAKERbut it's priced for businesses.

31:06SPEAKERSo like I think they start at like 20 bucks a month,

31:09SPEAKERwhich is kind of a lot.

31:10SPEAKERI think WordPress, you can do free

31:12SPEAKERif you don't mind having ads.

31:13SPEAKERI think I pay $4 a month and get no ads.

31:16SPEAKER- Okay.

31:17SPEAKER- So that means nobody sees ads

31:18SPEAKERon my wordpress.com hosted blog.

31:21SPEAKERYou can also do commercial WordPress hosts

31:26SPEAKERfor about that same price,

31:28SPEAKERwhich means that they, instead of hosting,

31:31SPEAKERinstead of WordPress hosting their thing

31:32SPEAKERon their service, wordpress.com,

31:35SPEAKERwhich is basically running a version

31:37SPEAKERof the open source WordPress client

31:38SPEAKERand gates things like plugins for commercial users,

31:44SPEAKERyou can pay a host that will do it,

31:47SPEAKERmanage an instance of WordPress for you.

31:50SPEAKERThat's as if you're hosting it yourself.

31:51SPEAKERLike a dream host does that.

31:53SPEAKERThere's a thing called blue host.

31:54SPEAKERThere's a couple of others

31:56SPEAKERand they let you do more traditional like plugins and stuff,

31:59SPEAKERbut they also don't manage comment spam

32:01SPEAKERand that sort of thing maybe quite as well.

32:03SPEAKERLike that's up to you as a user.

32:05SPEAKER- Okay, I totally forgot there's also a wordpress.org,

32:08SPEAKERwhich is the non-commercial.

32:12SPEAKER- Yeah, like WordPress is the open source

32:16SPEAKERcommercial dichotomy.

32:17SPEAKERIt's a good, we should actually,

32:19SPEAKERwe should get Matt Mullenweg on the tech pod.

32:22SPEAKER- Okay.

32:22SPEAKER- On the FOS pod.

32:23SPEAKER- The FOS pod, yeah.

32:24SPEAKER- They do, so the open source project is on .org.

32:29SPEAKERAnybody can download it.

32:30SPEAKERYou can install it on your web server, whatever.

32:33SPEAKERIt's super easy to do.

32:36SPEAKERLike if you can run it on a line node for five bucks a month

32:38SPEAKERand have your own hosted,

32:39SPEAKERI don't want to have to fool with managing the server.

32:41SPEAKER'Cause there's overhead to that.

32:43SPEAKERAnd there's time security patches,

32:46SPEAKERall sorts of stuff I don't want to have to fool with.

32:49SPEAKERSo I'll happily pay someone else five bucks a month

32:51SPEAKERto deal with them.

32:52SPEAKER- Yeah, I thought at one point years,

32:54SPEAKERlike two years ago about like,

32:55SPEAKERoh, I could just run a little blog off of my NAS here.

32:58SPEAKER- Don't do that.

32:58SPEAKER- I've got a domain.

32:59SPEAKER- That's a terrible idea.

33:00SPEAKER- Nope, that's a terrible idea.

33:01SPEAKER- Yeah.

33:02SPEAKER- I ran an Nginx instance in a container for like two weeks.

33:07SPEAKERAnd then I looked at the access logs and realized

33:09SPEAKERhow much you're getting.

33:11SPEAKERIf you have a domain that is public pointing to a web server,

33:13SPEAKERhow much you are getting crawled constantly

33:16SPEAKERfrom all over the world.

33:18SPEAKER- Yeah, and it's like,

33:21SPEAKERif you're doing that,

33:21SPEAKERyou have to pay really close attention to like zero days

33:25SPEAKERand stuff like that.

33:26SPEAKER- Yes, I have no desire to try to keep up

33:29SPEAKERwith security stuff and expose myself in that way.

33:32SPEAKER- Yeah, so the other thing I would say

33:34SPEAKERis setting up the WordPress blog,

33:36SPEAKERI turned off all of the engagement stuff.

33:38SPEAKERSo I have all the comments off.

33:40SPEAKERI tried to turn off all of their share your social links.

33:43SPEAKERI think I haven't been successful with that yet.

33:45SPEAKERI got to figure out what I need to remove

33:47SPEAKERfrom the template for that to work.

33:49SPEAKERBut for me, it's just a,

33:51SPEAKERhey, here's a place to share stuff

33:53SPEAKERthat I think is interesting.

33:54SPEAKERIf anybody reads it, great.

33:55SPEAKERIf they don't, also fine.

33:57SPEAKERThat blogs are best that way.

33:59SPEAKERI posted my oatmeal recipe there the other day.

34:02SPEAKER- Wait, hang on.

34:05SPEAKEROkay, I'm sure I just misheard you.

34:06SPEAKERI'd swear you just said I posted my opium recipe.

34:10SPEAKER- Oatmeal, oatmeal.

34:12SPEAKER- Well, shit, that's way less fun.

34:15SPEAKER- The oatmeal is really good, dude.

34:17SPEAKERIt's not opium good, but it's pretty good.

34:19SPEAKER- Could you make opium oatmeal?

34:21SPEAKER- I mean, look, if you try hard enough,

34:23SPEAKERyou can make opium in anything.

34:25SPEAKERBut I am not a opium scientist.

34:28SPEAKER- That's a good point.

34:31SPEAKEROkay, all right, shall we move on?

34:33SPEAKER- Yeah, sure.

34:34SPEAKER- Here's a question from Matt Bott.

34:36SPEAKERA lot of new faces in the questions this month.

34:38SPEAKER- I love that.

34:41SPEAKER- Question for Matt Bott is,

34:43SPEAKERare you a mouse pad person, a desk mat person,

34:46SPEAKERor do you just raw dog it on the desk?

34:48SPEAKER- Who raw dogs it on the desk now?

34:50SPEAKER- Oh, that's disgusting.

34:51SPEAKERThat's just, ugh.

34:53SPEAKER- I have a mouse pad.

34:55SPEAKER- How do you define a mouse pad?

34:56SPEAKERLike, okay, we're talking,

34:58SPEAKERokay, like the '90s style of like cloth,

35:00SPEAKERit's not cloth exactly,

35:01SPEAKERbut it's like a fabric-y top on like a rubberized flimsy.

35:05SPEAKERLike those are basically dead, right?

35:08SPEAKER- I have, so the ones that you're talking about

35:10SPEAKERare the neoprene ones, I think,

35:11SPEAKERwhere it's like a nylon cloth top on top of a neoprene,

35:15SPEAKERa quarter inch or eighth of an inch of neoprene.

35:17SPEAKER- Sure, that sounds right.

35:18SPEAKER- I do not have one.

35:20SPEAKERSo I have a wireless Logitech mouse.

35:23SPEAKERI use a Logitech Pro Superlight.

35:27SPEAKERI bought it, they don't send me stuff.

35:30SPEAKERThe mouse pad, I got the self-charging,

35:35SPEAKERlike the charging mat,

35:36SPEAKERso that I don't ever have to plug it in

35:38SPEAKERand it never has wires.

35:40SPEAKERAnd I quite like that.

35:41SPEAKERThe problem with that thing is it limits me

35:43SPEAKERto the size mouse pad that that base supports,

35:48SPEAKERbecause if you have a bigger mouse pad,

35:50SPEAKERthere's like weird overhangs.

35:54SPEAKERBut yeah, that's my solution.

35:57SPEAKERI think if I didn't have the self-charge,

35:59SPEAKERthe automatic charging, the wireless charging thing,

36:02SPEAKERI would probably do a big mat

36:06SPEAKERthat my keyboard sits on as well, yeah.

36:09SPEAKER- So I've never seen one of those in person.

36:10SPEAKERLike are those, like when I look at them,

36:12SPEAKERI think of that old 90s neoprene nylon kind of thing,

36:16SPEAKERbut they can't, surely they're not like that.

36:18SPEAKERLike what is your typical desk mat?

36:20SPEAKER- So usually the difference is that the weave

36:23SPEAKERon the top surface is more uniform now.

36:25SPEAKER- Okay.

36:26SPEAKER- So you don't want,

36:28SPEAKERlike the difference between a good mouse pad

36:30SPEAKERand a bad mouse pad is that the surface is predictable

36:33SPEAKERso that the sensor has more accuracy.

36:35SPEAKERLike it's the difference between going over something

36:37SPEAKERthat's like a scribble that you do a scribble

36:40SPEAKERand having a plotter do a scribble that's precise, right?

36:43SPEAKERIf you have a precise pattern,

36:45SPEAKERthen it's able to track more efficiently.

36:47SPEAKERBut the sensors are high enough resolution now

36:48SPEAKERthat I don't think it matters as much as you used to.

36:50SPEAKER- Yeah.

36:53SPEAKERWhat is the use case for those things?

36:54SPEAKERI mean, the mouse part is clear, but like,

36:56SPEAKERis it just a tactile,

36:58SPEAKERlike it's nice to rest your hands on kind of thing for like,

37:00SPEAKERit's not like a keyboard needs a pad under it.

37:02SPEAKERI'm kind of curious, like, I know they look nice,

37:05SPEAKERbut I'm just curious, like what,

37:06SPEAKERwhat the use case is for like the other 80% of the pad.

37:10SPEAKER- Well, the keyboard under the pad helps reduce sound

37:12SPEAKERif you have loud mechanical switches.

37:15SPEAKER- Yeah.

37:16SPEAKER- That's the, it makes your desk not a resonator

37:19SPEAKERfor the keyboard sound, if that's your.

37:22SPEAKER- I can kind of see the appeal there.

37:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

37:25SPEAKERIt also is nice 'cause you can take that thing off

37:27SPEAKERand clean it off.

37:28SPEAKERSo if you have crumbs or dust or hair or skin or whatever,

37:31SPEAKERit's easier to clean than the desktop, I think.

37:35SPEAKERYou just take it off and hose it off.

37:37SPEAKER- I am using a funk pad.

37:39SPEAKERRemember those?

37:40SPEAKER- Oh, you're still a funk pad guy?

37:41SPEAKER- Dude.

37:43SPEAKER- I like my funk pad.

37:44SPEAKER- Would it shock you to know that this funk pad

37:46SPEAKERis from when I worked at GameSpot?

37:48SPEAKER- How funky is the funk?

37:50SPEAKERLike I find those hard pads get kind of crusty after a while.

37:54SPEAKER- I clean it regularly with ice purple

37:57SPEAKERand kind of like scrub it.

37:59SPEAKER- Okay.

38:00SPEAKERGet the skin off.

38:01SPEAKER- I should probably just clean it in the sink

38:04SPEAKERlike it's a dish.

38:05SPEAKER- That's why I use Dawn on my hard pads.

38:07SPEAKER- And you think like a dish sponge is probably fine.

38:11SPEAKER- Probably, I mean, look, I don't know.

38:12SPEAKER- You're not gonna braid the,

38:14SPEAKERI use the rough side, by the way,

38:15SPEAKERfor people who remember the funk pad.

38:17SPEAKER- Yeah, it's smooth and rough, right?

38:18SPEAKERThe rough, yes, is glide, the mouse glides better

38:21SPEAKERthan on the smooth side.

38:23SPEAKERThis mouse pad says, "Plays best on Alienware."

38:26SPEAKER- Oh.

38:27SPEAKER- Because GameSpot did a big deal with Alienware

38:29SPEAKERin I think 2005 and we all got big fat,

38:33SPEAKERridiculous looking alien looking 2005 PCs.

38:37SPEAKER- Oh, did you get the plastic shell one?

38:38SPEAKER- Yes, if you Google, it was either the '05,

38:40SPEAKERI was just looking at this the other day,

38:41SPEAKERif you Google the '05 or the '06 Alienware,

38:43SPEAKERI think it was the '05.

38:45SPEAKER- I remember when they came out with those,

38:46SPEAKERit was when everybody else was doing

38:47SPEAKERlike high-end aluminum cases and Alienware

38:49SPEAKERcouldn't figure out how to manufacture them at scale,

38:51SPEAKERso they just did a giant plastic shell around a steel case.

38:54SPEAKER- Yes, it's absurd, it was huge.

38:57SPEAKER- Yeah, it was very big.

38:59SPEAKER- Last thing I'll say about a mouse,

39:00SPEAKERI also am thinking about getting a wireless mouse,

39:02SPEAKERso if anybody listening has recommendations,

39:05SPEAKERI like Logitech and I like the right-handed

39:09SPEAKERwith the thumb groove grip, if anybody has wireless,

39:13SPEAKERI'm not so big on ambidextrous mouse.

39:16SPEAKER- Wow, wouldn't have thought that,

39:18SPEAKERwouldn't have thought intolerance was your thing, Brad,

39:20SPEAKERbut here we are.

39:20SPEAKER- Look, the MX518 broke me forever,

39:23SPEAKERI have to have that thumb groove now.

39:25SPEAKER- I will tell you, I was a thumb groove guy

39:27SPEAKERuntil I tried a light mouse,

39:29SPEAKERand then I was like, oh, right, light mouse,

39:31SPEAKERI understand why people like these.

39:33SPEAKER- Yeah, I get it, I mean, I'm open to other suggestions,

39:35SPEAKERit doesn't have to be Logitech,

39:37SPEAKERI would, that's kind of my, to what I know.

39:40SPEAKERActually, I have one of their reissue MX518s,

39:43SPEAKERremember, when they did that?

39:44SPEAKER- Yeah.

39:44SPEAKER- It's got, well, we talked about this offline,

39:46SPEAKERit's got this weird thing

39:47SPEAKERwhere it'll take phantom input upwards vertically.

39:52SPEAKER- That's bad.

39:52SPEAKER- It only does it in, well, no,

39:54SPEAKERit'll do it on the desktop, actually,

39:55SPEAKERI notice it most in games,

39:56SPEAKERbecause if I'm playing a first person game,

39:58SPEAKERmy view will just flick all the way to the top,

40:00SPEAKERout of nowhere.

40:01SPEAKER- Does it not have like a hair or something

40:02SPEAKERstuck in the sensor?

40:03SPEAKER- I looked at the sensor, it looks clean,

40:04SPEAKERit's done it pretty much since I got it,

40:06SPEAKERI've had it for a couple of years.

40:08SPEAKER- I would call them, they'll fix that.

40:10SPEAKER- I got it for 20 bucks on sale, I kind of don't care,

40:12SPEAKERI kind of would just rather buy a wireless,

40:15SPEAKERanyway, anybody has any recommendations for wireless mice?

40:19SPEAKERHit me up in the Discord.

40:20SPEAKER- The thing I'll say is that the big pads,

40:22SPEAKERthe big mats that people like now,

40:24SPEAKERis almost universally tied to people

40:26SPEAKERwho use very low DPI sensors,

40:29SPEAKERso they set their sensitivity really, really low,

40:31SPEAKERso that you need to do a large movement

40:34SPEAKERto do any kind of,

40:38SPEAKERyou're just using a very large area to do tracking.

40:42SPEAKER- It gives you better precision for headshots

40:44SPEAKERand stuff like that.

40:45SPEAKER- Yes, all right.

40:49SPEAKERThis might be our last question,

40:50SPEAKERbecause it's actually like a bajillion questions.

40:55SPEAKERI feel like Saffid cheated here,

40:57SPEAKERbut it's so clever that I have to respect the hustle.

41:03SPEAKERI almost scrolled right past this,

41:04SPEAKERbecause it was two huge paragraphs,

41:06SPEAKERand I was like, well, that's too long to read on the show,

41:07SPEAKERand then I actually looked again,

41:08SPEAKERthis is from user Saffid on the Discord.

41:11SPEAKERIt's actually just two huge paragraphs

41:13SPEAKERof question after question after question.

41:15SPEAKER- Oh, you broke 'em out in the doc.

41:16SPEAKER- This is sneaky.

41:18SPEAKERI bolded the ones that I personally would want to read.

41:21SPEAKER- I'm good with that.

41:23SPEAKERI thought you made good choices.

41:24SPEAKER- Like I said, I feel like this is cheating,

41:25SPEAKERand we almost should not allow it,

41:27SPEAKERbut again, it's just, it's too deviously effective.

41:31SPEAKERSo here we go, several of Saffid's questions.

41:37SPEAKERAs a kid, did you build tree houses or blanket forts

41:40SPEAKERas an adult, which do you prefer?

41:43SPEAKERI'm gonna go tree house on both.

41:45SPEAKER- We did both when I was a kid.

41:47SPEAKER- Yeah, blanket fort is fine,

41:49SPEAKERbut I don't feel like you can, I don't know.

41:52SPEAKERThe woods is a cool place, let me put it that way.

41:55SPEAKERAs a child, I feel like the woods is a place

41:59SPEAKERthat really fires the imagination.

42:01SPEAKER- A lot of our trees here,

42:03SPEAKERwe have a bunch of eucalyptuses and stuff around us,

42:05SPEAKERwhich are not good for tree houses.

42:07SPEAKERWe had, when we moved here, really bummed

42:10SPEAKERthat we had to cut it down before my daughter was born,

42:13SPEAKERbut we had a Monterey Cypress

42:15SPEAKERthat would have been awesome for a tree house.

42:18SPEAKERAnd then it split and famously cost me

42:21SPEAKERa truckload of money to have removed.

42:23SPEAKER- Right, as a child in the woods behind our house,

42:27SPEAKERmy dad put up a tree stand,

42:29SPEAKERlike a straight up deer hunting tree stand.

42:32SPEAKERSo that was my tree house.

42:34SPEAKERAnd he also built a little log cabin.

42:37SPEAKER- Ooh.

42:38SPEAKER- Like a very basic, I mean like a foot long

42:40SPEAKERor foot wide gaps between the beams or whatever.

42:44SPEAKER- Oh, that's fun.

42:44SPEAKER- Just logs stacked on each other with a little tin roof.

42:47SPEAKERIt was a good time.

42:49SPEAKER- So we, my uncle brought a oil rig, a drill rig rope,

42:55SPEAKERwhich was like a two inch diameter piece of hemp rope

42:59SPEAKERthat was extra from his business down

43:02SPEAKERwhen he came to visit one time.

43:03SPEAKERAnd we took that and we strung it up in this tree

43:06SPEAKERthat hung over the river.

43:08SPEAKERAnd he made like a big mesh web up about 15 feet in the tree

43:12SPEAKERso he had to climb up to the tree

43:12SPEAKERand then he could sit up there

43:13SPEAKERand just kind of hang out and read or whatever.

43:15SPEAKERThat was awesome 'cause when it was 100 degrees

43:17SPEAKERout in the summertime, the river was always like 50 degrees

43:20SPEAKER'cause it came out of the bottom of the dam.

43:22SPEAKERAnd it was fantastic 'cause it was really,

43:26SPEAKERreally it was a nice, it was like natural air conditioning

43:28SPEAKERto go down and read a book or whatever.

43:29SPEAKER- Yeah.

43:31SPEAKER- But we've been doing with my daughter,

43:34SPEAKERwe've gotten these construction kits

43:36SPEAKERthat are like two foot long plastic sticks

43:39SPEAKERwith hubs that have a bazillion holes in them.

43:42SPEAKERAnd I'll make, she and I will make a dome with those

43:48SPEAKERand then just put blankets over the dome.

43:49SPEAKERAnd that's been, that's super.

43:51SPEAKERLike the toys, the toys are better now, Brad.

43:54SPEAKER- Yeah, it seems that way.

43:57SPEAKERYeah, the toys are better

43:59SPEAKERbut the social conditions are way worse.

44:01SPEAKER- Look, there's pros and cons.

44:04SPEAKER- Okay, let's see, oh man, this one is a nightmare.

44:09SPEAKEREgg or cheese, you no longer eat one of them,

44:12SPEAKERincluding recipes, which one and why?

44:16SPEAKER- I don't wanna live in this world.

44:18SPEAKER- I, man, like recipes. - I eat a lot of eggs.

44:20SPEAKER- Oh yeah, we didn't guess.

44:23SPEAKERGod, it pains me to do it

44:25SPEAKERbut I think I would have to cut out cheese

44:26SPEAKERbecause I don't know, man, like you,

44:31SPEAKERI eat eggs numerous times a week, if not every day.

44:35SPEAKERAnd think about all the things

44:36SPEAKERthat you would no longer be able to eat

44:37SPEAKERif you couldn't have eggs in things.

44:39SPEAKER- No cakes, no cookies.

44:41SPEAKER- No. - Nope.

44:43SPEAKERWell, I can eat pies still

44:44SPEAKER'cause there's hardly any egg in pies.

44:46SPEAKER- Yeah.

44:47SPEAKER- I would have to, it would have to be cheese for me

44:49SPEAKERbut it would be, that's a horrible choice.

44:51SPEAKER- Yeah, that's terrible.

44:53SPEAKER- I mean, I can't think of much worse than,

44:55SPEAKERdoes he think you need like vegan cheese at that point

44:57SPEAKERif it's not non-dairy cheeses

44:58SPEAKERor you think those are out too?

45:00SPEAKER- Maybe, we randomly- - There's some nut cheeses

45:03SPEAKERthat are pretty good now.

45:04SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, we randomly picked up some vegan goat cheese.

45:10SPEAKER- Yeah.

45:11SPEAKER- That's made out of sunflower seeds.

45:13SPEAKER- Yeah.

45:14SPEAKER- And I had some last night and I was like, you know what?

45:16SPEAKERI don't think I would quite mistake this

45:18SPEAKERif you put them side by side

45:19SPEAKERbut the flavor is pretty damn close

45:21SPEAKERand like, it's pretty healthy and it's just like,

45:24SPEAKERI just look at it as a spread

45:26SPEAKERthat tastes kind of like goat cheese, it's not bad.

45:29SPEAKER- We got a feta, you know, a fake feta at some point

45:33SPEAKERthat was like pretty indistinguishable.

45:36SPEAKERI was pleasantly surprised.

45:38SPEAKER- Yeah.

45:40SPEAKERGod, yeah, this question sucks

45:42SPEAKERbut I think it's gotta be eggs.

45:43SPEAKERLike you couldn't have mayonnaise anymore.

45:46SPEAKER- Mayonnaise is not the thing,

45:47SPEAKERlike just the number of eggs I eat a week.

45:50SPEAKERLike my default, hey, it's late

45:53SPEAKERand we need to make food for dinner,

45:55SPEAKERwhat are we gonna make is like, I'll fry some eggs

45:57SPEAKERand make toast and some free salad or something.

46:02SPEAKER- That is 100%, it is like, I need to eat,

46:06SPEAKERI don't know what else to make or there's no food here,

46:08SPEAKERI'm going to make eggs and combine it

46:10SPEAKERwith carb of some kind.

46:11SPEAKER- Well, yeah, that and like the number,

46:13SPEAKERlike I often will do like the sous vide,

46:16SPEAKERa batch of sous vide hard boiled eggs, stuff like that

46:19SPEAKERand I just, I can't even imagine.

46:21SPEAKER- Yeah, this is still a terrible question, let's move on.

46:25SPEAKER- Yeah, there's one more terrible question

46:27SPEAKERin that pile that's bolded.

46:29SPEAKER- Oh, I don't know which one, well, there's two

46:31SPEAKERand I think you could be talking about either one of them,

46:32SPEAKERbut okay, yeah, that's the one I was thinking, I mean.

46:36SPEAKERIf you had to pick a different billionaire to run Twitter,

46:38SPEAKERwho would it be and why?

46:39SPEAKER- Every billionaire is a policy failure.

46:41SPEAKER- George Lucas.

46:44SPEAKER- Oh, fuck.

46:44SPEAKER- It is the only thing.

46:47SPEAKER- Oh, man, you might be right.

46:48SPEAKER- George Lucas is the only billionaire approaching good.

46:52SPEAKER- I don't know.

46:57SPEAKER- Like, can we talk about the post-Lucas,

46:59SPEAKERthe post-Disney acquisition Renaissance

47:02SPEAKERthat George Lucas has faced?

47:03SPEAKER- No, because I haven't finished Andor yet and we can't,

47:06SPEAKERall I wanted, literally all I wanna do right now

47:08SPEAKERis finish Andor and we can't talk about it.

47:10SPEAKER- Hey, shout out to our friends over at A More Civilized Age,

47:15SPEAKERAustin and Rob and Natalie and Allie,

47:19SPEAKERwho I have been really enjoying their recaps of Andor.

47:22SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm gonna have to go listen to that after I'm done.

47:25SPEAKEROnce I finished Andor, I was like, "Oh, I want more Andor."

47:28SPEAKERAnd I was like, "Oh, right.

47:28SPEAKER"There's dozens of hours of podcasts about this."

47:30SPEAKERSo I went and listened and it's been very good.

47:33SPEAKER- Due to, we got, I mean, I was an early adopter

47:36SPEAKERand we were super on board and it turned out

47:41SPEAKERthat after the heist episode,

47:42SPEAKERwhich was halfway through the season,

47:43SPEAKERwhich was like a great stopping place,

47:45SPEAKERI traveled and then I got sick and other stuff happened.

47:49SPEAKERAnd by then, I was like, "You know what?

47:50SPEAKER"If we just wait an extra two weeks,

47:52SPEAKER"we'll have the whole second half of the season

47:54SPEAKER"to watch."

47:55SPEAKER- So I watched in three episode chunks.

47:57SPEAKERI watched the first three in like two nights

48:00SPEAKERand then I watched the next three in two nights

48:02SPEAKERor the next four in two nights.

48:04SPEAKER- That's the way to go.

48:05SPEAKER- And that was like, it was nice to,

48:08SPEAKERlike it was good to, the, what is it?

48:11SPEAKERIt's season, it's episodes one, two and three

48:13SPEAKERand then four is standalone and then five, six and seven.

48:16SPEAKER- Four, five, six are an arc.

48:19SPEAKERFour, five, six are the high star.

48:20SPEAKER- Oh, four and six and then seven is standalone.

48:21SPEAKER- Seven is the standalone one and then eight, nine, 10

48:23SPEAKERis an arc and then the last two.

48:25SPEAKER- Yeah, so like I got to episode nine

48:28SPEAKERand was like, "Oh, I gotta go to bed.

48:30SPEAKER"Crap, this is an unbelievable cliffhanger."

48:32SPEAKERBut I got to think about it all the next day

48:33SPEAKERand then watch it the next night

48:34SPEAKERand it was a really satisfying experience.

48:36SPEAKER- Yeah, they put out the first three wisely together

48:39SPEAKERso you could watch all those together.

48:40SPEAKERWe watched the heist as it aired,

48:43SPEAKERwhich was agonizing.

48:44SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a lot of waiting.

48:46SPEAKER- It was painful, so I'm glad we waited.

48:49SPEAKERIf my partner were not working

48:50SPEAKERthis entire Thanksgiving weekend,

48:52SPEAKERso we have to watch it kind of piecemeal at night.

48:54SPEAKERWe, I promised you we would have sat down

48:57SPEAKERand watched all six episodes back to back.

48:58SPEAKERLike it is, we got through seven right before last

49:02SPEAKERand then eight last night and I'm like dying right now.

49:05SPEAKER- I started watching "Rogue One" the other day

49:07SPEAKERand I was like, "Oh man, I forgot how hard this just starts.

49:10SPEAKER"This just goes from the beginning."

49:11SPEAKER- Yeah, I've never seen it all the way through

49:14SPEAKERand at this point, I'm gonna wait until all of "Andor"

49:17SPEAKERis done, meaning whenever season two finishes

49:20SPEAKERand then watch "Rogue One" as basically the finale.

49:23SPEAKER- Wow.

49:25SPEAKER- But dude, we don't, we can move on,

49:27SPEAKERbut like it's, I think it has gone beyond

49:29SPEAKERlike this is one of the best "Star Wars" things ever made

49:32SPEAKERto this is one of the best TV shows I've ever seen.

49:34SPEAKER- It's really good.

49:36SPEAKERI don't think that a billionaire should be allowed

49:39SPEAKERto run anything that's in public use.

49:41SPEAKER- I was being somewhat facetious,

49:42SPEAKERbut I do think that George Lucas is a very comical figure.

49:47SPEAKERI don't have to see it anyway.

49:50SPEAKER- Like, I mean, honestly,

49:52SPEAKERso I've been spending a lot of time on Mastodon.

49:54SPEAKERI've been spending a little bit of time on post.news

49:58SPEAKERand a little bit of time on cohost,

49:59SPEAKERmostly lurking on cohost and then I signed up for Hive,

50:03SPEAKERwhich it seems like a mess.

50:04SPEAKER- Hive, yeah, Hive looks the most like Twitter,

50:07SPEAKERwhich I think is what got so much buzz.

50:09SPEAKER- It helps.

50:10SPEAKER- But did you see they had a server issue

50:12SPEAKERwhere for some period of time,

50:14SPEAKERpeople were allowed to sign up with duplicate usernames?

50:17SPEAKER- Great, I wish I had known that.

50:18SPEAKERI'm gonna sign up for,

50:20SPEAKERalso I didn't get Will Smith on Hive,

50:21SPEAKERso it kind of impacts my ability to,

50:24SPEAKERand they only allow 14 character usernames,

50:26SPEAKERso not that Will Smith doesn't work either.

50:28SPEAKER- I don't think it's gonna be Hive.

50:30SPEAKERI don't think any of the current options necessarily,

50:32SPEAKERwe'll see, I don't know, still.

50:35SPEAKER- Well, the thing that I'm finding is that

50:37SPEAKERdifferent groups are going to different places.

50:39SPEAKERSo Mastodon is a bunch of technologists

50:41SPEAKERand people are having interesting conversations

50:43SPEAKERabout content moderation there and stuff like that.

50:45SPEAKERAnd the problems with all of this,

50:50SPEAKERthe thing that Twitter did that was really good

50:52SPEAKERwas monetize content moderation.

50:54SPEAKERWe talked about this last week or the week before.

50:57SPEAKER- Yes.

51:00SPEAKER- I don't know that the open source thing

51:02SPEAKERis going to be able to monetize content,

51:04SPEAKERis going to be able to support

51:05SPEAKERthe kind of content moderation that's required.

51:08SPEAKER'Cause we're gonna end up in the same situation

51:10SPEAKERwe ended up with email and blogs in six months or a year

51:13SPEAKERwhere there's people there and it's just a spam haven

51:16SPEAKERand it's a disaster for admins.

51:18SPEAKERBut anyway.

51:19SPEAKER- And let's face it, like a lot of open source projects,

51:21SPEAKERit's got UX shortcomings that like, I mean,

51:26SPEAKERlike the social media platform that's going to catch on

51:28SPEAKERneeds to be able to onboard people

51:30SPEAKERwho don't wanna figure out all that shit.

51:33SPEAKER- Does it?

51:34SPEAKERI mean, maybe being able to onboard all the people

51:36SPEAKERthat don't wanna figure out all that shit is part of that.

51:38SPEAKERLook, yes, it needs to be inclusive.

51:41SPEAKER- I mean, yeah, that's just gonna lead

51:42SPEAKERto a very self-selecting crowd of techie type people,

51:45SPEAKERwhich is like fine.

51:45SPEAKERBut what I mean is like the one that becomes the new,

51:48SPEAKERlike if such a thing is even possible or desirable.

51:52SPEAKER- I think that's the takeaway is that it's not desirable

51:55SPEAKERto have monolithic network with everybody on it.

51:59SPEAKERThat's the problem.

52:00SPEAKER- Yes, yes, I agree.

52:01SPEAKERAll right.

52:04SPEAKERAnother, let's just keep going with the Saffat list here.

52:07SPEAKERWhat investment myths do you most regret?

52:09SPEAKERI almost bought 85 Bitcoin for $1 each

52:11SPEAKERand almost bought Apple for 20 cents a share.

52:15SPEAKER- In 2010, when we had just moved

52:16SPEAKERinto the whiskey media basement on Front Street,

52:19SPEAKERAndy, the engineer, Andy came to me and was like,

52:21SPEAKER"Hey, have you heard about this Bitcoin thing?

52:23SPEAKERYou have a bunch of GPUs, right?"

52:26SPEAKERAnd this is when you could trade 60 Bitcoins

52:29SPEAKERfor a pizza basically.

52:31SPEAKERSo, you know, whoops.

52:32SPEAKER- We've talked about this before.

52:34SPEAKERI also think back to that time

52:36SPEAKERwhen you and Norm started talking about Bitcoin

52:39SPEAKERand they were like less than a dollar a piece.

52:41SPEAKER- Yeah.

52:42SPEAKER- And I just think like if I had spent like three

52:43SPEAKERor 400 bucks, I wouldn't be here right now.

52:46SPEAKER- Even when we went to Austin for South by

52:50SPEAKERand bought the Bitcoin at the ATM for 500 bucks.

52:55SPEAKER- That would still be a profound investment today.

52:57SPEAKER- Would have been a pretty good investment, it turns out.

52:59SPEAKER- Well, at this point,

53:00SPEAKERlike I don't know if you keep up with value,

53:01SPEAKERit is cratered.

53:03SPEAKER- It's like 10K, right?

53:04SPEAKERLast time I looked, I think.

53:05SPEAKER- Yes, and it peaked at like 50, right?

53:06SPEAKER- 60 something, yeah.

53:07SPEAKER- 60?

53:08SPEAKER- Yeah.

53:09SPEAKER- Although I also think about like,

53:12SPEAKERif you were in that situation,

53:14SPEAKERif you had like say 500 Bitcoin

53:16SPEAKERthat you had bought back in the day,

53:17SPEAKERlike cashing those out is not a trivial process, right?

53:20SPEAKERLike that seems like that would be extremely dodgy,

53:22SPEAKERboth from like income reporting standpoint

53:26SPEAKERand also like dealing with some brokerage to actually do it.

53:29SPEAKER- There's tools to do it now.

53:30SPEAKERIt's not as much of a problem.

53:31SPEAKERLike it's just pretty straightforward.

53:34SPEAKERThe big thing for me is I probably would have sold

53:38SPEAKERwhen it hit 5K.

53:40SPEAKERLike if I had a bunch of Bitcoins I paid a dollar for,

53:43SPEAKERI would have made $150,000 instead of $15 million.

53:46SPEAKER- Yeah.

53:47SPEAKER- Right?

53:48SPEAKEROr, I mean, I guess the smart thing to just sell half

53:49SPEAKERand then keep the others and anyway, it doesn't matter.

53:53SPEAKER- My bigger question is when was Apple 20 cents a share

53:57SPEAKERor is that some employee situation?

53:59SPEAKER- Apple was probably 20 cents a share in like 1998.

54:02SPEAKER- Yeah, I guess like right around the time

54:04SPEAKERthey were almost, they were on the verge of collapse.

54:08SPEAKER- Yeah, my guess is when they were...

54:10SPEAKER- Oh, I can look that up actually.

54:11SPEAKERHere is some good historical, wow, July, let's see.

54:14SPEAKERIt was 20 cents a share in 1983.

54:16SPEAKER- From all through the '90s.

54:17SPEAKERIt was 30 cents a share in 1998.

54:19SPEAKER- 16, yeah, wow.

54:20SPEAKER- 20 cents a share in 1996.

54:21SPEAKER- Yeah, look at that, man.

54:23SPEAKERI didn't know it was that cheap.

54:24SPEAKERHoly crap, that's insane.

54:26SPEAKER- Look, when you bought Apple at 20 cents a share in 1996,

54:29SPEAKERyou were betting that they survived another six months.

54:33SPEAKER- Yeah.

54:33SPEAKER- Right?

54:34SPEAKERIt was, it does a long haul.

54:37SPEAKER- I bought GE at that point

54:39SPEAKERand that's worked out great for me.

54:41SPEAKER- Wait.

54:42SPEAKER- It hasn't worked out great, Brad.

54:44SPEAKER- I wasn't quite sure if that was sarcasm or not, but.

54:46SPEAKER- No, I like, look, I'm gonna go and tell you

54:48SPEAKERwhen 30 Rock was on and Alec Baldwin was talking

54:51SPEAKERabout the Sheinhardt Whid company owning GE,

54:53SPEAKERthose jokes hurt.

54:57SPEAKER- I'm sure.

54:58SPEAKER- Yeah.

54:59SPEAKER- All right, should we move on?

55:01SPEAKER- Sure.

55:02SPEAKER- From, I'm looking through this.

55:04SPEAKERLooking through this, you know what?

55:07SPEAKERI'll, one more.

55:09SPEAKEROh, well, a couple.

55:10SPEAKERAnd what household fix are you most proud of?

55:12SPEAKERWell, I broke some battery powered fairy lights last night.

55:17SPEAKER- Oh no.

55:18SPEAKER- You know what I'm talking about?

55:19SPEAKERThe little LED, they're like the wire.

55:20SPEAKER- Yeah, they're like real thin wires, right?

55:22SPEAKER- Yeah, that are flexible,

55:23SPEAKERso you can kind of mold them into shape.

55:25SPEAKERI broke one of the wires off last night

55:27SPEAKERand soldered it back together.

55:28SPEAKER- Nice.

55:29SPEAKER- Instead of spending 10 bucks.

55:31SPEAKERSo that's a fun one.

55:34SPEAKER- I laser cut a rigidity plate for my faucet

55:41SPEAKERto keep it from wobbling

55:42SPEAKER'cause it was not designed to go on a stainless steel sink.

55:46SPEAKER- Nice.

55:47SPEAKER- So that was pretty good.

55:48SPEAKERI literally took the picture.

55:49SPEAKERI took a picture of it from a website,

55:51SPEAKERtraced it and measured the holes

55:53SPEAKERto make sure they're the right size

55:54SPEAKERand then stacked it three deep

55:56SPEAKERand acrylic cemented it together and yeah.

56:00SPEAKER- Fabricating your own home owner fix type stuff

56:05SPEAKERis still among the most futuristic things

56:08SPEAKERthat I can think of.

56:09SPEAKER- It's pretty, that's pretty cool.

56:10SPEAKER- It feels like something out of Minority Report or AI

56:13SPEAKERor some of those near future science fiction type films.

56:16SPEAKER- Yeah, I built a bench for the laser cutter

56:18SPEAKERwhen we got that, a work bench that was the right height

56:21SPEAKERto be comfortable to work at and stuff like that.

56:26SPEAKERI don't know.

56:28SPEAKEREventually you just kind of start doing stuff

56:29SPEAKERand don't really remember doing,

56:31SPEAKERlike it just fades into the background of life.

56:35SPEAKER- Yes, indeed.

56:36SPEAKERAll right, last question I'm gonna say.

56:40SPEAKER- Okay.

56:41SPEAKER- It's from Cake Batter.

56:43SPEAKER- I'm not surprised.

56:44SPEAKER- It has to be from Cake Batter.

56:47SPEAKERAs you grow older, does the call of setting up

56:49SPEAKERa model railroad in your home increase?

56:52SPEAKER- Oh God, yes.

56:53SPEAKER- Wait, really?

56:54SPEAKERAre you actually a model railroad guy?

56:55SPEAKER- Look, I had a model railroad when I was a kid.

56:58SPEAKER- Oh. - It was in the unfinished

57:00SPEAKERbasement, it was my favorite thing to play with.

57:03SPEAKER- Really? - And we didn't even,

57:04SPEAKERI didn't even build, it didn't even occur to me

57:08SPEAKERthat you could build scenery and stuff

57:10SPEAKERfor the model railroad. - Oh, I was gonna ask

57:12SPEAKERif you were the full on model terrain,

57:15SPEAKERlike kind of building the valley

57:16SPEAKERthat you live in type stuff.

57:18SPEAKER- I conceptually had no idea that that was a thing

57:21SPEAKERthat you could do, it never occurred to me.

57:23SPEAKERI just liked having the trains ride around in the circles

57:26SPEAKERand making the tracks do different things and all that,

57:29SPEAKERlike that part of it was fun enough.

57:31SPEAKERAt the Living Desert Museum in Palm Desert, California,

57:38SPEAKERwhich we've been to a couple times now,

57:41SPEAKERthey have a huge outdoor train set that's like,

57:44SPEAKERI don't know, it's maybe like half an acre,

57:46SPEAKERit's really, really big with like five different tracks,

57:48SPEAKERall sorts of different scales trains,

57:51SPEAKERlike recreations of old buildings from the town

57:55SPEAKERand like people have donated their own buildings,

57:57SPEAKERbusinesses have donated their own buildings

57:59SPEAKERand all sorts of stuff,

57:59SPEAKERso it's like this huge sprawling train set.

58:02SPEAKER- Oh, that's cool.

58:03SPEAKER- And you can hit the button and make it go

58:04SPEAKERand it's very satisfying.

58:05SPEAKER- That's cool, I bet, I bet model railroad is a place

58:08SPEAKERwhere the kind of end user fabrication tech

58:11SPEAKERis super useful these days,

58:13SPEAKERI bet there's some cool shit going on in model railroading.

58:15SPEAKER- I have everything I need to be able to make

58:17SPEAKERa lot of model railroad business.

58:19SPEAKER- That's, that absolutely sounds like the project

58:21SPEAKERof the rest of your life.

58:23SPEAKERIf you were to get into that,

58:24SPEAKERthat seems like the kind of thing that you tinker with

58:26SPEAKERright up until the end.

58:27SPEAKER- I mean, look, if Reverend Lovejoy is wrong,

58:33SPEAKERI don't wanna be right, Brad.

58:34SPEAKER- That's fair, that's fair.

58:35SPEAKERFor my part, I'm gonna say that my land

58:38SPEAKERis my model railroad, I like.

58:40SPEAKER- Oh, that's your, that's it, that's the thing you like?

58:43SPEAKER- I like making the packets go around

58:46SPEAKERthe invisible railroad.

58:48SPEAKER(laughing)

58:51SPEAKERHome network, home network is like an invisible railroad

58:53SPEAKERfrom the data. - It kind of is.

58:54SPEAKERYeah, you're not wrong.

58:55SPEAKERLike you hook the data up in the train and then let it rip.

58:58SPEAKER- I mean, like the way that I've got,

59:00SPEAKERthe way that I've got ethernet mounted around the baseboard

59:04SPEAKERand door jams in this apartment,

59:05SPEAKERaround the perimeter of the house,

59:07SPEAKERit kind of is like a physical railroad.

59:09SPEAKER- It's not, you're not wrong.

59:11SPEAKERThe thing that's keeping me from doing is just space.

59:13SPEAKERWe don't have a, like I would need a room

59:15SPEAKERto dedicate to it and we don't have that here.

59:17SPEAKER- We should move somewhere with more space.

59:21SPEAKERIt's not a bad idea, not a bad idea.

59:24SPEAKER- Anyway, we should move to the end of the episode.

59:27SPEAKER- Yeah, I think that's a good idea.

59:28SPEAKERBrad, it is the time of the show where we thank our patrons.

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1:01:24SPEAKER- That's true.

1:01:25SPEAKERI've been Linuxing a lot on this break.

1:01:27SPEAKERDude, it happened.

1:01:30SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:01:30SPEAKER- I said it successfully without looking anything up.

1:01:34SPEAKER- Wow.

1:01:34SPEAKER- Said?

1:01:36SPEAKERFamiliar with it?

1:01:37SPEAKER- You said what?

1:01:37SPEAKER- S-E-D, Stream Editor, I believe is what it...

1:01:40SPEAKER- Is that what it stands for?

1:01:41SPEAKERI've only used it in the context of,

1:01:43SPEAKER"Here's some shit you should type in

1:01:44SPEAKERthat you don't necessarily need to understand what it does."

1:01:46SPEAKER- I believe that's where the name came from.

1:01:49SPEAKERI needed to take a string, a numeric string,

1:01:53SPEAKERand replace the first digit with something else.

1:01:55SPEAKERAnd I just did it without having to look up

1:01:57SPEAKERthe regular expressions or the said formatting last night.

1:02:03SPEAKERAnd I was like, "Oh man, I finally arrived."

1:02:05SPEAKER- Well, wait, you can regex without...

1:02:09SPEAKERYou can regex blind now, too?

1:02:10SPEAKER- Regex, regex.

1:02:11SPEAKER- Regex, right, regex.

1:02:13SPEAKER- Regular, reg...

1:02:15SPEAKER- I would assume that's regex.

1:02:16SPEAKER- That's why I said regular expressions out loud

1:02:18SPEAKERbecause I wasn't sure how people say that.

1:02:19SPEAKER- Oh, is this another GIF situation?

1:02:21SPEAKER- Probably.

1:02:23SPEAKER- Oh, let us know how you feel.

1:02:24SPEAKERDo you think it's a soft J or a soft G or hard G?

1:02:28SPEAKERLet us know.

1:02:30SPEAKERThat's awesome, that's really cool.

1:02:31SPEAKER- I was very excited, very proud.

1:02:33SPEAKER- I made the best apple pie I've ever made this year.

1:02:37SPEAKER- Ooh, wait, you can't tell me that, I wasn't there.

1:02:39SPEAKER- I'm sorry, I precooked the apples so there was no gap

1:02:42SPEAKERbetween the top of the apples and the bottom of the crust.

1:02:45SPEAKERIt was amazing.

1:02:45SPEAKER- You're supposed to tell me how terrible all the food was.

1:02:47SPEAKER- Everything else was shit except for your mom's

1:02:50SPEAKERbroccoli casserole.

1:02:51SPEAKER- Well, that goes without saying.

1:02:52SPEAKER- Yeah, no, we wouldn't disrespect your mom.

1:02:55SPEAKERBye everybody, see you next week.

1:02:56SPEAKER(upbeat music)