128: An Elevator Named Otis

00:00SPEAKER- I'm not gonna lie.

00:01SPEAKERI didn't think you were gonna make that one.

00:02SPEAKER- It's funny how fast seven seconds turns into two seconds.

00:05SPEAKER- It really is.

00:06SPEAKER- It turns out it takes like five seconds.

00:09SPEAKERWe started.

00:10SPEAKER- Yeah, that math checks out.

00:11SPEAKER- You have to talk.

00:12SPEAKER- Yep, I was thinking about it.

00:13SPEAKERI was like, yep, seven seconds minus five seconds.

00:15SPEAKERBrad, I'm real tired, it's GDC week.

00:18SPEAKERI went out to dinner last night.

00:19SPEAKER- Oh no, don't do that.

00:20SPEAKER- I ate outside.

00:21SPEAKER- Oh.

00:22SPEAKER- I had a cocktail outside.

00:24SPEAKER- Oh.

00:25SPEAKER- I went inside to pee.

00:26SPEAKER- What kind of cocktail?

00:28SPEAKER- I just had a beer.

00:29SPEAKER- You didn't?

00:30SPEAKERThat's not a cocktail.

00:30SPEAKER- Well, okay.

00:31SPEAKEREverybody else had cocktails and I had a beer

00:32SPEAKER'cause I had to drive.

00:34SPEAKERI don't drink very much anymore.

00:35SPEAKERAnd I was like, I gotta drive at the end of dinner,

00:37SPEAKERso I'm gonna have a beer.

00:38SPEAKERAnd I got a Belgian white and then the Belgian,

00:42SPEAKERthey didn't have the, well, okay.

00:44SPEAKERI asked for a colt.

00:44SPEAKERThey didn't have the colt and they were like,

00:46SPEAKERwell, we have an IPA.

00:47SPEAKERI was like, okay, I'll have an IPA.

00:47SPEAKERAnd then I drank it.

00:48SPEAKERI was like, oh man, this is more alcohol.

00:50SPEAKERI don't know if I should talk about this

00:51SPEAKERon the podcast actually.

00:52SPEAKER- How much fun, dude?

00:53SPEAKERWhat?

00:54SPEAKEROne IPA, one beer, really?

00:55SPEAKER- I didn't get a dad drunk or anything, but it's dangerous

01:00SPEAKERwhen you don't drink at all

01:01SPEAKERand then you drink a little tiny bit.

01:03SPEAKER- I am so bored of IPAs.

01:04SPEAKERI like IPAs a lot.

01:06SPEAKERBeen getting back into beer a little bit lately.

01:08SPEAKERThere's nothing but IPAs anywhere.

01:10SPEAKERWe don't need to talk about beer.

01:11SPEAKERSo you did everything outside except pee, huh?

01:14SPEAKER- I thought about peeing outside

01:15SPEAKER'cause I was in San Francisco, so it's always an option.

01:18SPEAKERLike, I was like, did you go to the bathroom?

01:20SPEAKERSomebody went to the bathroom before me.

01:21SPEAKERI was like, was it inside?

01:23SPEAKERHe's like, yeah, it's inside.

01:24SPEAKERJust follow the wall.

01:25SPEAKERI was like, okay.

01:26SPEAKERI mean, you could have just gone around the corner

01:27SPEAKER'cause, you know, it's an option here.

01:30SPEAKER- Find the right alleyway and you're pretty much set.

01:32SPEAKER- I, it's, the thing,

01:35SPEAKERI think this might be one of the questions we're gonna get.

01:36SPEAKERIt's question and answer week.

01:38SPEAKERThis might be one of the questions we get to,

01:40SPEAKERbut I don't miss seeing the public bathroom displays

01:43SPEAKERwalking around downtown San Francisco like I used to.

01:46SPEAKER- I'm sorry.

01:47SPEAKERCan you define the public bathroom display?

01:50SPEAKER- I mean, walking down the street

01:52SPEAKERat three o'clock in the afternoon

01:53SPEAKERand seeing some guy taking a literal dump.

01:55SPEAKER- Okay.

01:56SPEAKERSee, I was parsing that as public bathroom being a phrase

01:59SPEAKERas in like a bathroom that is an intended bathroom

02:03SPEAKERto be used by the public in public.

02:06SPEAKER- No, sir.

02:06SPEAKERI meant it's a human being using the bathroom in public.

02:10SPEAKER- A bathroom display taking place in public.

02:13SPEAKER- Yes, I meant, yes, the latter rather than the former.

02:18SPEAKER- Yes, I got it.

02:19SPEAKERYeah, I have to say that I concur.

02:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

02:25SPEAKER(upbeat music)

02:52SPEAKER- Welcome to "Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod."

02:54SPEAKERI'm Will.

02:55SPEAKER- I'm Brad coming hot off the heels

02:57SPEAKERof perhaps the lowest effort cold open we've ever done.

02:59SPEAKERAlso, it took me just a second to remember my name.

03:03SPEAKER- On a scale of one to 10, where one is the least tired

03:05SPEAKERand 10 is the most tired, where are you now?

03:08SPEAKER- I'm sorry.

03:09SPEAKERI don't want to complain.

03:10SPEAKERI don't want to continue complaining about my jet lag,

03:11SPEAKERbut holy shit, man.

03:13SPEAKERI just.

03:15SPEAKER- Well, I mean, this is a thing.

03:18SPEAKERIt's like anything else.

03:19SPEAKERIt's a skill and it's a thing you can get bad at.

03:23SPEAKERLast night, look, this is an embarrassing story.

03:27SPEAKERI went to dinner with some friends.

03:29SPEAKERAnd as we were walking out,

03:30SPEAKERI got up to go to the restroom after the meal was done.

03:33SPEAKERAnd while I was waiting, 'cause it's San Francisco,

03:36SPEAKERso it's like unisex bathrooms or gender neutral bathrooms.

03:40SPEAKERAnd there was a pretty substantial line.

03:44SPEAKERSo it took me a minute.

03:46SPEAKERAnd by the time I came back,

03:47SPEAKERthe matter of the bill was completely settled.

03:49SPEAKERAnd I'm so out of practice with,

03:54SPEAKERif I go and get food someplace, it's with Gina.

03:57SPEAKERSo if she pays the bill or I pay, it's the same money.

04:00SPEAKERIt doesn't matter, right?

04:02SPEAKERI just completely forgotten.

04:03SPEAKERAnd I got in the car on the way home.

04:05SPEAKERI was like, "Shit, who paid the bill?

04:06SPEAKERDid we just dine and dash?"

04:08SPEAKER- No.

04:10SPEAKER- So I had to send the text.

04:12SPEAKERI was like, "Hey, do I owe somebody money?"

04:16SPEAKERWe went to dinner and I didn't even,

04:19SPEAKERI need to thank somebody,

04:20SPEAKERbut I really need to pay my part of the bill here.

04:24SPEAKERI feel bad 'cause it's like when I was at Starbucks

04:27SPEAKERa few months ago and I couldn't fucking figure out

04:29SPEAKERhow to work the door when somebody was trying to go in

04:31SPEAKERand I was going out at the same time.

04:32SPEAKER- This was making me feel a little bit better.

04:35SPEAKER- Yeah, like- - Only a little bit.

04:37SPEAKER- I feel like some people's social norms have collapsed

04:40SPEAKERto the point that they don't get this,

04:42SPEAKERsomething goes slightly wrong for them.

04:44SPEAKERThey start screaming at other people in the grocery store.

04:47SPEAKERAnd then there's people like us

04:48SPEAKERthat are generally pretty affable

04:50SPEAKERand we just have forgotten how to participate in society

04:52SPEAKERin a much less, much more innocuous way.

04:56SPEAKER- You ever worry about your own cognition?

04:58SPEAKER- Oh, all the time.

04:59SPEAKER- Okay, good, it's not just me.

05:01SPEAKER- Well, okay, so there's two sides of this though,

05:05SPEAKERbecause I was worried about my,

05:07SPEAKERwe had this conversation in December

05:10SPEAKERand then my stomach hurt really bad one day

05:13SPEAKERand I went to the hospital for it and they were like,

05:14SPEAKER"Oh yeah, your liver numbers are off

05:17SPEAKERand it's probably impacting your cognition."

05:20SPEAKERAnd I was like, "Oh, well that explains a lot."

05:23SPEAKERSo if you start turning yellow, I guess go to the doctor

05:25SPEAKERwas my takeaway if you feel like you have cognition issues.

05:28SPEAKER- That's a hot tip.

05:29SPEAKERI have some concern that the sleep medication I'm on

05:32SPEAKERis affecting my memory, is making me forgetful,

05:35SPEAKERwhich typically have prided myself

05:37SPEAKERon having a very sharp memory.

05:39SPEAKER- That's a side effect.

05:40SPEAKER- And here's how I put it to the test the other day.

05:44SPEAKERIt occurred to me, it hit me out of the blue

05:46SPEAKERthat I couldn't name the four Chris's.

05:48SPEAKER- Hold on, who are the four Chris's?

05:51SPEAKER- Okay, I think I can do it now,

05:52SPEAKERbut at the time it was one of those like,

05:53SPEAKER"Oh my God, what is wrong with me?

05:55SPEAKERI cannot remember the guy who plays Captain America.

05:57SPEAKERWhat is wrong with me?"

05:58SPEAKER- Oh.

05:59SPEAKER- And he was the one I couldn't remember.

06:00SPEAKERSo Chris Pine.

06:01SPEAKER- Yeah, Chris Evans.

06:02SPEAKER- Chris Evans is the one that I really couldn't remember.

06:05SPEAKERChris Hemsworth. - Chris Cross.

06:06SPEAKER- Yes, of course, Chris Cross.

06:07SPEAKER- They make you jump jump, I believe.

06:09SPEAKERThe cardinal honorary member, Chris Hemsworth, right?

06:12SPEAKER- Chris Hemsworth is Thor, yeah.

06:14SPEAKER- And Chris Pratt, of course, the-

06:17SPEAKER- Oh yeah, the unfortunate Chris.

06:19SPEAKER'Cause I like to think of him.

06:20SPEAKER- The universal actor.

06:22SPEAKER- Yeah. - Anyway.

06:23SPEAKERWhat are we talking about?

06:24SPEAKER- Man, I don't know.

06:25SPEAKERI think it's the time of month when we turn Q's into A's.

06:28SPEAKER- Yeah, do you ever quiz yourself?

06:30SPEAKERDo you ever just like stop and look at my time?

06:32SPEAKER- I have a nine-year-old dude.

06:34SPEAKERThere's some days that I like,

06:36SPEAKERI'm gonna go and tell you,

06:37SPEAKERwell, okay, this is definitely a question that comes up.

06:39SPEAKERBut the year when we were doing remote school,

06:43SPEAKERlike my partner stays at home,

06:47SPEAKERher job is to help with the kid and make the house run,

06:50SPEAKERwhich is an incredibly,

06:51SPEAKERlike we're very lucky that that works for us.

06:53SPEAKERAnd we've made some pretty substantial sacrifices

06:56SPEAKERto make it happen.

06:56SPEAKERBut like the year of working from home and remote school,

07:02SPEAKERpretty good for me, all told in terms of like my sleep

07:05SPEAKERand general level of like mental, like tiredness,

07:10SPEAKERbecause like we went from having to get up at seven o'clock

07:13SPEAKERin the morning every day,

07:13SPEAKERand then get out the door and like go off.

07:15SPEAKERAnd like, I'm up late every night.

07:17SPEAKERTo me getting up at like 8.45 and pumping some cereal in her

07:21SPEAKERbefore she had to hop onto Zoom.

07:24SPEAKERThat was a good change for me.

07:25SPEAKERAnd now we're back to real school in person.

07:28SPEAKERAnd it's like seven o'clock every morning,

07:29SPEAKERrolls around in there and like, I'm just hosed.

07:32SPEAKERIt's awful.

07:33SPEAKER- The added stress of a virus still being endemic

07:37SPEAKERin society and nobody taking precautions anymore anyway.

07:41SPEAKER- Yeah.

07:42SPEAKERIf you have questions.

07:43SPEAKER(laughing)

07:45SPEAKER- I just want you to answer them.

07:47SPEAKER- Yeah, you can send them to techpod@content.town.

07:52SPEAKER- I'm so tired, dude.

07:55SPEAKER- It's techpod@-- - I apologize

07:55SPEAKERto everybody listening to this podcast.

07:57SPEAKERWe're not usually this insufferable.

07:59SPEAKER- Yeah.

08:00SPEAKERIf this is your first time listening to this podcast,

08:02SPEAKERgo download literally any other episode.

08:09SPEAKERYeah, podcast@techpod@content.town.

08:13SPEAKEROr if you're in the Discord,

08:14SPEAKERif you're one of our patrons,

08:16SPEAKERthen you can go in the Discord

08:17SPEAKERand you can just type random nonsense

08:20SPEAKERinto the question seeking answers channel.

08:22SPEAKERAnd then we probably are gonna answer it

08:23SPEAKERdepending on, you know.

08:27SPEAKERLook, there's a pretty high likelihood

08:29SPEAKERjust because we picked some weird questions this month,

08:32SPEAKERI'm gonna say.

08:33SPEAKER- We will definitely read your question, I can say that.

08:35SPEAKER- We read them all, that is true.

08:37SPEAKER- All right, should we get started?

08:39SPEAKER- Look, there's nothing I would like to do more.

08:41SPEAKERWhile you read the first question,

08:43SPEAKERI'm gonna read it and take my sweatshirt off

08:45SPEAKER'cause it's getting hot in here.

08:46SPEAKER- Okay, all right, well, I'm gonna fill time for Will

08:48SPEAKERas he disrobes live on this podcast.

08:52SPEAKERQuestions from Biegs.

08:54SPEAKERHe's not gonna be able to hear me say this.

08:56SPEAKERI'm just gonna wait.

08:57SPEAKERI didn't read the question yet.

08:59SPEAKER- What?

09:00SPEAKER- Okay, let's do this.

09:01SPEAKER- It took so long.

09:02SPEAKER- Okay, from Biegs, you recently mentioned

09:07SPEAKERthat control plus arrow keys jumps between words,

09:10SPEAKERbut did you know that control plus backspace

09:12SPEAKERdeletes whole words?

09:15SPEAKERUnfortunately, it doesn't work in about 50% of places.

09:18SPEAKER- Yeah, this is an unreliable keyboard shortcut.

09:22SPEAKER- I would add to that.

09:23SPEAKERDid you know that control shift arrow keys

09:26SPEAKERhighlights entire words at a time?

09:28SPEAKER- Yeah, control alt arrow keys moves them.

09:31SPEAKER- Oh wow, okay, that I did not know.

09:34SPEAKERBut yeah, there's an awful lot of text input places

09:36SPEAKERthat don't respect the kind of control whole word modifier.

09:41SPEAKER- Yeah, I feel like the control is a holdover.

09:45SPEAKERSo I use the control stuff a lot.

09:47SPEAKERThe control shift, I use a ton.

09:50SPEAKERThe control backspace and control delete,

09:53SPEAKERI do not use all that much.

09:55SPEAKER- That's pretty destructive.

09:56SPEAKERI would be afraid of going a little too far with that one.

09:59SPEAKER- It works in Google.

10:01SPEAKERThe alt and control doesn't,

10:05SPEAKERI think you have to have it selected.

10:06SPEAKERIt doesn't work in Google Docs, unfortunately.

10:09SPEAKERThat's an ancient one.

10:10SPEAKERThat's like WordStar or something, I can't remember.

10:12SPEAKER- Having just spent the last week and a half

10:14SPEAKERworking on a MacBook, it does not work in Mac OS

10:17SPEAKERas far as I can tell.

10:19SPEAKER- Oh, you know it does.

10:19SPEAKERIt is in Mac OS, it is control, it's not command.

10:23SPEAKERIt doesn't swap.

10:25SPEAKER- Wait, I tried control.

10:28SPEAKERI tried control.

10:29SPEAKER- But then it's command, it's one or the other.

10:31SPEAKER- I swear I tried both.

10:32SPEAKERMaybe it's option.

10:34SPEAKER- It could be option.

10:35SPEAKERMy Mac keyboard shortcuts are always jacked up in my head

10:38SPEAKERbecause for a long time I switched the command

10:41SPEAKERand the control keys and using that modifier

10:44SPEAKERin the control panel and the keyboard shortcuts.

10:47SPEAKERBut then it was backwards

10:50SPEAKERwhen I was using a real Windows keyboard.

10:51SPEAKER- I'm sorry, I don't do that on a Mac.

10:53SPEAKERI use an Apple keyboard on my PC

10:55SPEAKERand I swap because-

10:56SPEAKER- Oh God, that's great.

10:58SPEAKER- Alt and window key are in the versed positions

11:01SPEAKERif you use a Mac keyboard on Windows

11:03SPEAKERunless you get sharp keys and remap everything.

11:05SPEAKER- Yeah.

11:06SPEAKER- Sharp keys is great, by the way.

11:09SPEAKER- This, you have very specific tastes.

11:11SPEAKER- Yes, I like things to work like I like them to work.

11:13SPEAKEROkay?

11:15SPEAKER- Nothing has ever been more well established than that.

11:18SPEAKER- All right.

11:19SPEAKER- I mean, that could be the entire,

11:20SPEAKERthat could be the subtext,

11:22SPEAKERthe subhead for the entire podcast.

11:24SPEAKER- All right, man, I'm just out of here

11:25SPEAKERtrying to bring the truth to the people, okay?

11:27SPEAKER- Brad likes what Brad likes.

11:28SPEAKER- That's what everybody should like what I like.

11:31SPEAKER- I don't know about that.

11:32SPEAKER- The world would be much easier for me.

11:33SPEAKER- Nope, well, okay, that's true.

11:35SPEAKER- All right, are we ready for this?

11:38SPEAKERThis is a big one.

11:39SPEAKER- This is a lot of mental,

11:41SPEAKERI don't know that my mind is ready for this.

11:43SPEAKER- The worst possible month to read this, all right.

11:46SPEAKER- The cognitive load of this question is exceedingly high.

11:48SPEAKER- It's a lot, okay.

11:50SPEAKERMountaineer Blue writes in,

11:52SPEAKERhey, Brad and Will, seeing as you're getting

11:54SPEAKERa lot of questions seeking answers,

11:56SPEAKERI thought I'd give you some answers seeking questions.

11:59SPEAKERHopefully they match up to some.

12:00SPEAKERAll right, should I read the answers and you,

12:04SPEAKERare we playing Jeopardy here?

12:06SPEAKER- No, I'll do the answers.

12:06SPEAKERYou have to come up with the questions.

12:08SPEAKER- I can't, I'm sorry.

12:09SPEAKER- No, it's okay, it's okay.

12:11SPEAKER- Let's collaborate here, Nvidia 6600.

12:13SPEAKER- Yeah, the question there I believe is,

12:18SPEAKERI have a old-ish PC,

12:24SPEAKERwhich part should I upgrade

12:26SPEAKERout of the following components?

12:28SPEAKERIt has an i5 6600,

12:34SPEAKERa eight gigabytes of RAM,

12:37SPEAKER128 gigabyte SSD, but with a one terabyte hard drive.

12:41SPEAKERSo I have a lot of storage space for the,

12:44SPEAKERbut I can put one game on the SSD

12:46SPEAKERas long as it's not Call of Duty.

12:48SPEAKERAnd then, but the video card is Nvidia 6600.

12:52SPEAKERAnd I think on that, looking at those specs right now,

12:55SPEAKERI'm gonna say that a video card upgrade to like a,

12:58SPEAKERlet's say $150, $200 video card

13:00SPEAKERis gonna give you a pretty good performance bump.

13:03SPEAKER- Ooh, that is a GT.

13:05SPEAKERI thought in my head, I was like,

13:06SPEAKER"6600, isn't that one of the GT cards?"

13:09SPEAKERAnd sure enough, that is a card from 2004.

13:12SPEAKER- Yeah, that's an old card.

13:13SPEAKERYou should probably just upgrade

13:14SPEAKERthat entire computer, actually, at this point.

13:17SPEAKER- Worse than the card I bought to play Oblivion on,

13:21SPEAKERto put things in perspective.

13:23SPEAKER- The 6800 series was the first one of their DX8 parts,

13:28SPEAKERI think, that was pretty good.

13:29SPEAKERIt may have been a DX9 part.

13:31SPEAKER- DX9, I believe, 'cause remember,

13:32SPEAKERthe GeForce 3 was the big DX8.

13:34SPEAKERYeah, DirectX 9.0C.

13:37SPEAKERI bought a 7800 GT to play Oblivion.

13:41SPEAKER- Yeah, that was a period of time

13:42SPEAKERwhen the mid range cards were pretty good.

13:44SPEAKER- Yeah, single slot, looking at this picture.

13:47SPEAKERRemember single slot GPUs?

13:48SPEAKER- Wow, those were the days.

13:50SPEAKER- Those were the days.

13:51SPEAKER- I have a GPU from that era that I still use

13:55SPEAKERthat is entirely passively cooled,

13:57SPEAKERthat I used to use in the home servers,

14:00SPEAKER'cause it was passively cooled.

14:01SPEAKER- That's pretty great, yeah.

14:03SPEAKERAll right, I'll take a stab at this one.

14:05SPEAKERTwo spaces after punctuation is correct,

14:07SPEAKERas single space came about because publishers

14:09SPEAKERdidn't want to buy normal and extra width types.

14:12SPEAKER- So using two spaces is fighting the man.

14:15SPEAKER- No, veto this one.

14:17SPEAKERThis one is bullshit.

14:17SPEAKERThis is trying to get us to answer a question.

14:19SPEAKER- I have a question, I have a question.

14:21SPEAKER- Oh, God.

14:22SPEAKER- Can I keep using one space after punctuation

14:24SPEAKERbecause it's less key presses?

14:26SPEAKER- Look, as soon as we stopped using physical type,

14:35SPEAKERlike 40, 50 years ago,

14:38SPEAKERsingle space is the right answer at that point.

14:40SPEAKERAs soon as the type was digitally set,

14:42SPEAKERit didn't matter, it doesn't matter.

14:45SPEAKERLike, yes, there's no one in this room

14:49SPEAKERthat is more into fighting the man than me.

14:52SPEAKERBut in this case, all you're doing

14:54SPEAKERwhen you put two spaces in,

14:55SPEAKERespecially for anybody that has to do publishing,

14:57SPEAKERis making somebody do a command H

14:59SPEAKERto find and replace all of the double spaces

15:02SPEAKERand replace them with single spaces.

15:04SPEAKER- Also, you're gonna have to replace

15:05SPEAKERyour keyboard twice as fast.

15:08SPEAKERAll right, 23 degrees Celsius.

15:12SPEAKERWhat is a too warm temperature for your room?

15:17SPEAKER- I have a question.

15:18SPEAKER- Yes.

15:19SPEAKER- Is 73.4, what is, I'm sorry,

15:23SPEAKERwhat is 73.4 Fahrenheit equal to?

15:25SPEAKERThere's your question.

15:26SPEAKER- Yeah.

15:27SPEAKER- Sorry, okay.

15:28SPEAKERJupiter.

15:30SPEAKER- What's the one planet in the solar system

15:32SPEAKERthat I wouldn't want to visit?

15:34SPEAKER- Wow, really?

15:36SPEAKER- It's the magnetic field's really dangerous.

15:37SPEAKERLike you realistically, you're not,

15:39SPEAKERwe're not gonna like Arthur Clark aside.

15:43SPEAKER- What I mean is, is this the only planet?

15:44SPEAKER'Cause the other gas giants,

15:46SPEAKERI don't think would be that much better.

15:47SPEAKER- I think the other gas giants,

15:49SPEAKERprobably the magnetic fields aren't as bad.

15:51SPEAKER- Probably, but I don't know that they'd be fun.

15:53SPEAKER- Plus, I don't want to go to a failed star.

15:55SPEAKERI want to go to a successful planet, not a failed star.

15:58SPEAKER- Jupiter's not a brown dwarf, is it?

16:00SPEAKER- No, it's not, but it's right on the edge.

16:01SPEAKERIf it was a little bit bigger, if it was slightly massier,

16:03SPEAKERif it had a Saturn in it, it would be,

16:06SPEAKERwe'd have two stars.

16:07SPEAKER- Hang on, I'm looking, is Jupiter a brown dwarf?

16:09SPEAKER- No.

16:10SPEAKER- Wait a minute.

16:11SPEAKER- Oh, okay, yes, it looks like it is a bit too small

16:14SPEAKERfor that. - Yeah.

16:16SPEAKER- If we had one giant, if we had one gas giant

16:20SPEAKERinstead of four gas giants, we'd have a second star.

16:24SPEAKER- Oh, for sure. - Maybe.

16:25SPEAKER- Do you ever, sometimes I just sit around

16:27SPEAKERand really think about what is at the core of those things?

16:30SPEAKER- A whole shitload of diamonds.

16:32SPEAKER- Under all the gas, I would love to know.

16:34SPEAKER- It's literally a diamond the size of our planet.

16:37SPEAKER- Wait, like I said, actually, I mean,

16:39SPEAKERobviously it's not confirmed, but.

16:41SPEAKER- I mean, nobody's looked at it,

16:42SPEAKERbut the model suggests strongly theorized

16:46SPEAKERthat it is either, I want to say liquid hydrogen

16:50SPEAKERor a diamond the size of our planet.

16:52SPEAKERI think the rotation, the idea of a liquid,

16:54SPEAKERI can't remember, this might be science fiction

16:56SPEAKERand not science, I'm afraid to say this now,

16:58SPEAKERbut my understanding was it's diamonds,

17:00SPEAKERand if it's not diamonds, it's liquid hydrogen.

17:03SPEAKER- You write a science fiction story about future

17:05SPEAKERspace capitalists who mine the core of Jupiter,

17:08SPEAKERand then the earth is destroyed by all of the asteroids

17:10SPEAKERthat are no longer deflected.

17:12SPEAKER- Have you watched "Don't Look Up Yet?"

17:13SPEAKER- By its gravitational pull, I'm sorry?

17:15SPEAKER- Did you watch "Don't Look Up Yet?"

17:16SPEAKER- Yes.

17:18SPEAKER- I found it to be the singular, most depressing piece

17:20SPEAKERof mass media I think I've ever watched.

17:22SPEAKER- It was really depressing.

17:23SPEAKERLike I found it to be, a lot of it was fairly on the nose.

17:26SPEAKER- Yeah.

17:27SPEAKER- And I also felt like it could have been

17:29SPEAKERabout 30, 45 minutes shorter.

17:31SPEAKER- When?

17:33SPEAKER- I think the last 10 to 15 minutes of that movie

17:36SPEAKERis like something I will never forget watching though.

17:40SPEAKER- That's fair.

17:41SPEAKER- I don't know if, I mean, it's been out for what?

17:43SPEAKER- Six months, a year.

17:45SPEAKER- Oh gosh, surely it's not been a year.

17:48SPEAKER- Well, it's a 2021 Academy Award movie,

17:50SPEAKERso it can't be more than 15 months.

17:53SPEAKER- Anyway, okay, skip three minutes ahead, I guess,

17:56SPEAKERif you don't wanna hear about the end of "Don't Look Up."

17:58SPEAKERI'm sure you've probably watched it by now, if you care.

18:01SPEAKERI mean, that movie is incredibly flippant, right?

18:05SPEAKERLike, you know, it's social satire,

18:06SPEAKERbut it's like really over the top, like I said,

18:10SPEAKERon the nose, like they were really driving the point home.

18:12SPEAKER- Yeah.

18:13SPEAKER- But it makes such a tonal shift at the very end, like-

18:17SPEAKER- Oh, I don't think the tonal shift,

18:18SPEAKERI think it's the same tone the entire way through,

18:20SPEAKERthe we are hosed is the tone.

18:23SPEAKER- It goes from absurd to very somber is what I mean,

18:25SPEAKERlike at the very end.

18:26SPEAKERLike the last like 10 minutes of that movie,

18:28SPEAKERall of the ridiculous satires out the window

18:31SPEAKERand it's literally just watching people

18:32SPEAKERwho know they're about to die

18:33SPEAKERlive out there last like 10 minutes, like it's-

18:35SPEAKER- Oh, I don't think there was any ridiculous satire

18:37SPEAKERin that movie.

18:38SPEAKERI think that movie was on the nose the entire way through.

18:41SPEAKER- No, I mean, look, it's not implausible.

18:42SPEAKERI'm just saying like they really hammer the nail in

18:45SPEAKERas hard as they can.

18:47SPEAKER- Well, like usually in the disaster movies,

18:49SPEAKERyou're either hoping for the humans to win

18:51SPEAKERor the disaster to win, right?

18:53SPEAKER- It doesn't trade in subtlety is all I'm saying, like it's-

18:56SPEAKER- Oh, that's true.

18:57SPEAKER- I mean, the thing is swinging a sledgehammer

18:59SPEAKERinstead of a scalpel, but I don't know,

19:01SPEAKERbut all I'm saying is like,

19:03SPEAKERonce it gets to that last supper scene

19:05SPEAKERwhere like they are all just sitting around

19:07SPEAKERand it's clear that it's sunk in,

19:08SPEAKERthat they have failed and life on earth is about to end,

19:13SPEAKERthat last like 60 seconds of that movie

19:15SPEAKERis straight up chilling, you know,

19:16SPEAKERas like the house starts rattling

19:18SPEAKERand the lights start going out

19:19SPEAKERand they're just like trying their best to eat their pie.

19:22SPEAKER- Be normal.

19:23SPEAKER- Trying to eat their apple pie and drink their coffee

19:25SPEAKERas they know that like within seconds

19:26SPEAKERthey are going to be torn to shreds, like it's a lot.

19:30SPEAKER- We had it pretty good.

19:31SPEAKERThere were two moments in the movie that made me

19:33SPEAKERreally bummed or like more so than I would have expected.

19:36SPEAKERThe worst one was when Jennifer Lawrence

19:38SPEAKERgoes to meet her parents at the end and say goodbye

19:42SPEAKERand like, they're like,

19:44SPEAKER"We're for the jobs that the meteor's gonna provide."

19:46SPEAKER- Yeah.

19:47SPEAKER- I was just like, "Oh, right."

19:48SPEAKER- Yeah.

19:49SPEAKER- Anyway, three minutes is up, we should move on.

19:54SPEAKEROh, this is, okay, the last one.

19:55SPEAKERMore movies should be about the second person

19:57SPEAKERto do something, proving it's not a fluke.

20:00SPEAKER- I think that's just a generally good idea.

20:02SPEAKERI'm pro that one.

20:03SPEAKER- That's not a question.

20:05SPEAKER- Okay, what's a controversial take

20:08SPEAKERthat you think is super smart?

20:09SPEAKER(laughing)

20:10SPEAKER- There you go.

20:11SPEAKERAll right, moving on.

20:12SPEAKER(laughing)

20:13SPEAKER- I don't know how I feel about this format.

20:15SPEAKERI think I wasn't mentally prepared for it.

20:16SPEAKER- That's tough.

20:17SPEAKER- Yeah.

20:18SPEAKER- Yeah, it was practice, I think we could get there.

20:20SPEAKER- Yeah, okay.

20:21SPEAKER- All right.

20:21SPEAKER- That's our third podcast.

20:23SPEAKER- Question from Shags Magoo.

20:24SPEAKERI believe we have maybe done this before,

20:26SPEAKERbut it is time for a check-in.

20:28SPEAKERIn fact, as he says right here, desktop, desk,

20:33SPEAKERdesktop check.

20:35SPEAKER- Desk chop tech.

20:36SPEAKER- Desktop check.

20:38SPEAKERDesktop check.

20:39SPEAKERWhy is that so hard to say?

20:40SPEAKER- Desk chop tech.

20:42SPEAKER- How many files, folders, shortcuts,

20:44SPEAKERor other assorted icons are currently on your desktop?

20:46SPEAKERAnd what steps are you taking to get that number

20:48SPEAKERto its optimal place zero?

20:50SPEAKER- Okay, hold on.

20:52SPEAKERI mean, I'm sure you know there's a very easy way

20:54SPEAKERto do this, just open File Explorer.

20:57SPEAKER- Yeah, but if I don't ever look, then I don't know.

20:59SPEAKERAnd therefore, A, I would argue that the optimal number

21:03SPEAKERis not zero, 'cause the optimal number

21:05SPEAKERis whatever is most convenient for me, the user.

21:07SPEAKER- I will never have fewer than two,

21:09SPEAKERbecause I will never be able to remove my computer,

21:13SPEAKERor I guess they just call it computer now,

21:14SPEAKERand the recycle bin.

21:16SPEAKER- Yeah.

21:17SPEAKER- Purely out of habit.

21:17SPEAKERIt's not like you can't get to those things elsewhere.

21:19SPEAKERIt's just a GUI should have those two icons, okay?

21:23SPEAKER- So I turned off the status bar.

21:25SPEAKER- Status bar.

21:26SPEAKER- The thing at the bottom of the File Explorer window

21:28SPEAKERthat tells you how many items and how big they are.

21:31SPEAKER- Really?

21:32SPEAKER- Yeah.

21:33SPEAKER- Oh, that thing's useful.

21:34SPEAKER- I heard it's for chumps, so no chumps here.

21:38SPEAKER- Did we talk about File Explorer getting tabs in 2011?

21:41SPEAKERWe did.

21:42SPEAKER- Well, no, we didn't.

21:43SPEAKERWe said it would be a good idea, and then they did it.

21:45SPEAKER- Yeah, so apparently- - You're welcome.

21:47SPEAKER- Apparently rolling out into Insider Builds of Windows 11

21:50SPEAKERis a new File Explorer that has tabs in it.

21:52SPEAKERSo I might have to think about upgrading at some point.

21:56SPEAKER- I sort, do you sort by date on the desktop?

21:59SPEAKER- I don't sort by anything. - Name.

22:01SPEAKER- I kind of, I tend to just like cluster things

22:04SPEAKERof like type together a little bit.

22:06SPEAKER- Oh wait, you actually have the icons on on your desktop?

22:09SPEAKER- Oh yeah.

22:10SPEAKER- Oh, that's terrifying.

22:11SPEAKERYou stream though.

22:12SPEAKER- I could, well, not,

22:13SPEAKERI don't ever capture the monitor or the desktop.

22:16SPEAKER- Oh, oh, oh.

22:17SPEAKER- I don't have specific windows.

22:18SPEAKER- Oh, see, because I do the-

22:19SPEAKER- So what do I have to hide?

22:20SPEAKER- Because I do the two PC thing,

22:22SPEAKERI always have my desktop feed is on.

22:24SPEAKERSo I've had icons hidden for five years.

22:26SPEAKER- Yes, you were just spitting video out of your PC

22:29SPEAKERonto the internet like a lunatic.

22:31SPEAKER- Yeah.

22:32SPEAKER- But again, what do I have to hide?

22:34SPEAKERI deleted lubes.txt a long time ago.

22:36SPEAKER- I have contracts on my desktop.

22:38SPEAKER- Oh, see I- - I have statistics.

22:41SPEAKER- A little more fastidious than that

22:42SPEAKERabout putting like business documents away.

22:46SPEAKER- I have the file that has apparently the secret keys

22:51SPEAKERto my Nest integration for my home assistant on there.

22:55SPEAKER- Interesting.

22:56SPEAKER- I have next week's weekly challenge for the Anacrusis.

22:59SPEAKER- Okay.

23:03SPEAKER- I have a old last week's FOS pod.

23:09SPEAKERI don't know, man.

23:10SPEAKERI got a lot of shortcuts apparently

23:11SPEAKER'cause Steam still is putting shortcuts on my desktop

23:13SPEAKERlike it's 1998.

23:15SPEAKER- Oh, don't do that.

23:16SPEAKER- Why do they do that, man?

23:17SPEAKER- Don't do that.

23:17SPEAKER- Well, I don't click the box.

23:18SPEAKERI just, you know what happened?

23:20SPEAKERI actually should tell you exactly what happened.

23:22SPEAKERI clicked the thing that said don't ever show me this again,

23:24SPEAKERbut I probably had to put a desktop shortcut on.

23:27SPEAKER- Well, that's on you.

23:28SPEAKER- Look, I can solve this problem really easily.

23:31SPEAKERSort by type, delete all.

23:33SPEAKER- There you go.

23:34SPEAKERI can tell you that I have 148 icons

23:37SPEAKERon my desktop currently.

23:40SPEAKERI can tell you I've got, like I said,

23:42SPEAKERI kind of clump things together.

23:44SPEAKER- Yeah, madness.

23:47SPEAKER- I've got a clump of GPU benchmarking utilities

23:50SPEAKERand folders and some tech demos.

23:55SPEAKERI've got a clump of soundtracks, game soundtracks

23:58SPEAKERfrom Steam that I've grabbed

23:59SPEAKERthat I need to add to my music library.

24:01SPEAKERGot a massive, instead of bookmarking things in browsers,

24:05SPEAKERI drag from the address bar to a shortcut on the desktop

24:09SPEAKERfor things I mean to read later and then never do.

24:11SPEAKERSo I have about, let's say,

24:14SPEAKERwhat is the extension on those things?

24:16SPEAKERDo they have one?

24:17SPEAKERIs that .url?

24:19SPEAKERYes, I have something like 20 .urls.

24:21SPEAKER- That's madness.

24:22SPEAKER- Icons here.

24:23SPEAKER- Can you just use bookmarks?

24:25SPEAKER- I should probably do that.

24:27SPEAKERBut again, these are not things, these are temporary.

24:29SPEAKERThese are ephemeral.

24:30SPEAKERI'm going to read them and forget about them.

24:32SPEAKERExcept I don't.

24:33SPEAKERAnyway, desktops, they're a mess.

24:35SPEAKER- I've turned on the status bar.

24:37SPEAKERI have 54 items on my desktop,

24:39SPEAKERincluding five shortcuts.

24:43SPEAKERThere's two different kinds of shortcuts.

24:45SPEAKERYou know, if you sort by type,

24:46SPEAKERyou get the ones that Steam makes a different kind

24:49SPEAKERof shortcut than the normal Windows application shortcut.

24:52SPEAKER- Weird.

24:53SPEAKER- I know.

24:53SPEAKERI have a really good thumbnail

24:56SPEAKERof somebody's Oxygen.included world that's self-sustaining,

25:00SPEAKERwhich I thought was impossible, but it's huge.

25:03SPEAKERIt's really cool.

25:06SPEAKERI have a Fraps folder for doing,

25:10SPEAKERI think that was for doing a DLSS video

25:12SPEAKERfor NVIDIA for the Anacrusis.

25:13SPEAKERI have my Mr. Annie.

25:15SPEAKER- Oh, I also have some Mr. stuff here.

25:17SPEAKERI do have, I have a row of folders on my desktop

25:20SPEAKERbetween the computer and Recycle Bin on the far right.

25:23SPEAKER- I have a bunch of videos.

25:26SPEAKERYou know, good stuff.

25:27SPEAKER- For whatever reason, for whatever reason,

25:29SPEAKERmy naming scheme for folders on the desktop

25:31SPEAKERthat I put a lot of common things in

25:34SPEAKERis as truncated as it could possibly be.

25:36SPEAKER- Oh, no.

25:37SPEAKER- So for example, the folder that I put all

25:39SPEAKERof my Audacity projects in as we record podcasts

25:42SPEAKERday after day is called Aud, A-U-D.

25:46SPEAKER- That's an odd name for a folder.

25:48SPEAKER- I don't know why they need to be as short as possible.

25:51SPEAKERTo answer Shaq's question,

25:52SPEAKERwhat are we doing to remedy the mess on our desktop?

25:54SPEAKERI created a folder to put things that I want to keep

25:56SPEAKERthat I don't have anywhere else to put in.

25:58SPEAKERIt is called Earned, R-N-D for random.

26:02SPEAKER- Oh, I usually have an archive folder on my desktop,

26:04SPEAKERbut I stopped doing that a while ago

26:05SPEAKER'cause then I looked in the archive folder

26:07SPEAKERand there was another archive folder in there

26:09SPEAKERand then there was another one under that

26:10SPEAKERand I was like, this is a disaster.

26:12SPEAKERI haven't looked in here in two years,

26:13SPEAKERso I just deleted it.

26:14SPEAKER- Yes, I have a folder called Earn,

26:17SPEAKERH-R-M that has nothing in it.

26:19SPEAKERI should probably-- - What's H-R-M for?

26:20SPEAKER- Earn.

26:21SPEAKER- But what's it short for?

26:22SPEAKER- Earn, like hmm.

26:24SPEAKER- Oh.

26:25SPEAKER(laughing)

26:26SPEAKER- I didn't know it was in there.

26:27SPEAKER- I don't know how to process that one.

26:28SPEAKERI'm not gonna lie. - I'm not gonna lie in there.

26:29SPEAKER- Okay, desktops, desktops are filthy.

26:33SPEAKER- Let me ask you a question, Brad.

26:35SPEAKER- Okay.

26:36SPEAKER- If I said, hey,

26:40SPEAKERI'll give you $1,000 if you delete everything

26:42SPEAKERin your downloads folder right now,

26:44SPEAKERcould you do that or would that be bad for you?

26:46SPEAKER- Delete, as in permanently gone forever.

26:48SPEAKER- Can't just sort it somewhere else?

26:50SPEAKER- No.

26:51SPEAKER- Like it all has to absolutely go away?

26:53SPEAKER- Control A, shift delete.

26:55SPEAKERYou know that shift delete is the permanent delete, right?

26:57SPEAKER- I'm just scrubbing through here real fast.

27:00SPEAKERI think I would probably take that deal actually.

27:04SPEAKER- What if I told you you couldn't look at it first?

27:06SPEAKER- Oh, that, hmm.

27:08SPEAKER- 1,000 bucks.

27:10SPEAKER- I might still take the deal.

27:12SPEAKERI don't know.

27:13SPEAKERThere's some like tax documents and stuff in there.

27:15SPEAKERThat's not great.

27:17SPEAKER- Probably if I download it again though.

27:21SPEAKER1,000 bucks pays a lot of accountants, it turns out.

27:24SPEAKER- It's true.

27:24SPEAKER- Yeah. - It is true.

27:26SPEAKERAll right, we should move on.

27:27SPEAKER- Yeah, next question.

27:29SPEAKER- There's a question from Cakebatter here.

27:30SPEAKERI'm like 90% sure he asked it as a joke.

27:35SPEAKER- Okay.

27:35SPEAKER- No, he may not have, he may be serious about this.

27:37SPEAKERI was going to read it as a joke

27:38SPEAKERbecause we absolutely are not qualified to answer it.

27:41SPEAKER- Nope.

27:42SPEAKER- But she points out, I think he's in on the joke.

27:45SPEAKERThis being a tech pod, not a math pod,

27:48SPEAKERcan you explain how stream ciphers such as Salsa 20

27:51SPEAKERand the related ChaCha 20 poly 1305

27:54SPEAKERdiffer from regular block ciphers,

27:56SPEAKERsuch as AES 128, 256, et cetera?

28:00SPEAKER- Nope.

28:01SPEAKER- Cryptographically, mathematically,

28:03SPEAKERI'm sorry that I cannot.

28:06SPEAKER- I did read the, did you read the thing the other day

28:07SPEAKERabout the attack, the low power brute force attack

28:14SPEAKERon bad key generated, like keys that were generated badly

28:18SPEAKERbecause they used two primes

28:20SPEAKERthat were too close to each other.

28:21SPEAKERSo you were able to use like a Fermi's sieve or something

28:24SPEAKERto get the, to generate the keys?

28:27SPEAKER- No.

28:28SPEAKER- It was really an interesting article.

28:29SPEAKERI'll have to get up and post in the show notes.

28:32SPEAKER- I can tell you, I typed stream cipher into Google

28:34SPEAKERand the first suggestion that came up

28:35SPEAKERwas stream cipher versus block cipher.

28:37SPEAKER- Yeah.

28:38SPEAKER- Block cipher breaks down plain text messages

28:40SPEAKERinto fixed size blocks before converting them

28:42SPEAKERinto cipher text using a key.

28:45SPEAKER- Okay.

28:45SPEAKER- Encrypting information bit by bit.

28:48SPEAKERThe stream cipher on the other hand

28:50SPEAKERbreaks a plain text message down into single bits,

28:52SPEAKERwhich are then converted individually

28:54SPEAKERinto cipher text using key bits.

28:57SPEAKERI wonder if it's a speed thing.

28:59SPEAKER- Oh.

29:00SPEAKER- The reason, the reason, so I,

29:01SPEAKERthe only reason I have any familiarity with this at all

29:03SPEAKERis that I know that I believe ChaCha 20

29:06SPEAKERis one of the ciphers that WireGuard uses,

29:10SPEAKERif I'm not mistaken.

29:13SPEAKERAnd WireGuard, I know, I know part of,

29:15SPEAKERman, I'm really speaking out of turn here.

29:17SPEAKERI think, I think part of the selection process

29:19SPEAKERfor the encryption in WireGuard was speed.

29:21SPEAKER- Yeah, 'cause it's supposed to be low overhead.

29:23SPEAKER- Yes, it is.

29:24SPEAKERAnd so I wonder if maybe stream ciphers are more performance?

29:27SPEAKER- No, I would think it would be the other way

29:29SPEAKER'cause the blocks are simpler math.

29:32SPEAKERWhile I'm looking, I'm opening up my--

29:36SPEAKER- Wait, we weren't actually supposed to answer this question.

29:39SPEAKERThis was a joke.

29:41SPEAKERI mean, maybe not, but stop researching.

29:44SPEAKERWe have to move on.

29:44SPEAKER- Okay, okay, okay.

29:45SPEAKER(laughing)

29:46SPEAKERBlocks versus bits, that's the answer though.

29:49SPEAKER- Yes. - There you go.

29:50SPEAKER- A block is a collection of bits.

29:52SPEAKER- I hope I'm pronouncing this right.

29:53SPEAKERLee Hadassen, I think is how you say this username.

29:57SPEAKERThis has come up on not just your podcast,

29:59SPEAKERbut many other American podcasts saying biweekly,

30:02SPEAKERwhen you mean every two weeks,

30:04SPEAKERdo Americans not commonly use the word fortnight?

30:07SPEAKER- I mean, we do, but not in that context.

30:09SPEAKER- Well, I mean, that's a very different conversation

30:11SPEAKERafter the last three to four years than it was before.

30:14SPEAKER- I don't know about you,

30:14SPEAKERbut I'm not any good at cranking nineties, so.

30:17SPEAKER- No, definitely not.

30:18SPEAKER- Yeah, we do not use the term fortnight generally.

30:21SPEAKER- Fortnight is not at all the common term

30:23SPEAKERin American English.

30:24SPEAKERFortnight was always up there with stone for me

30:27SPEAKERin terms of weird Anglo-isms.

30:29SPEAKER- Yeah, what's a-

30:30SPEAKER- I have no idea how-

30:31SPEAKER- A stone's a measure of weight, I think, right?

30:33SPEAKER- It is, yes.

30:34SPEAKERYou'll see people refer to their weight in stone sometimes.

30:37SPEAKER- Which stone though?

30:38SPEAKER- 14 pounds, it looks like.

30:41SPEAKER- Oh, that's a lot. - And then stone is 14 pounds.

30:43SPEAKERSo you'll see somebody say they weigh 12 stone.

30:46SPEAKER- That's a unit, the base number there

30:50SPEAKERis too hard for me to get the math in my head on.

30:51SPEAKER- Last I weighed myself a fortnight ago,

30:53SPEAKERI weighed 14 stone.

30:56SPEAKEROkay, I guess that answers the question.

30:59SPEAKERQuestion from Grant.

31:01SPEAKERThis is a question for Brad.

31:02SPEAKERDo you get in the shower

31:03SPEAKERwithout feeling the temperature of the water first?

31:05SPEAKERI get in the shower before I even turn the water on.

31:07SPEAKER- Wait, what?

31:09SPEAKER- First, why was this a question for me?

31:11SPEAKER- Yeah, well, this is oddly specific.

31:12SPEAKER- Why only me?

31:15SPEAKERFun, okay.

31:16SPEAKERDo you not warm up the water before you get in?

31:19SPEAKER- No, that's wasteful.

31:20SPEAKER- So you just get in and freeze your ass off

31:22SPEAKERuntil the water gets warm?

31:23SPEAKER- Well, no, but we have an adjustable shower head

31:25SPEAKERso I don't spray it directly on myself,

31:27SPEAKERbut I sort of start to, I mean, as it warms up, I...

31:30SPEAKER- But like, are you standing in the cold water

31:34SPEAKERwhile it is warming?

31:35SPEAKER- No, no.

31:36SPEAKER- Then you're wasting it either way.

31:38SPEAKERSo why get in and suffer?

31:39SPEAKER- I'm saving some time.

31:40SPEAKERLook, I mean, when you turn it on and let it get hot,

31:41SPEAKERyou're prone to just kind of do other stuff

31:43SPEAKERand waste time while it's already hot.

31:45SPEAKER- I brush my teeth.

31:46SPEAKER- That is so much water.

31:48SPEAKERWe are in a perpetual drought around here, come on, man.

31:50SPEAKER- It turns on, but if you're not using the water

31:53SPEAKERto clean yourself, it's the exact same amount of waste.

31:56SPEAKER- No, but again, I'm telling you psychologically

31:59SPEAKERyou are going to waste more time

32:01SPEAKERwhen you're out of the shower doing other stuff.

32:03SPEAKER- It takes me two minutes to brush my teeth,

32:04SPEAKERwhich is about the time it takes the shower to warm up.

32:06SPEAKER- Oh, wait, what?

32:07SPEAKER- Do you not brush your teeth for two minutes?

32:09SPEAKER- No, no, no, no, no.

32:10SPEAKERI'm talking about the time it takes to heat the water up.

32:12SPEAKERI think we talked about this in the last Q and A.

32:14SPEAKERI mean, maybe it's 'cause we have the gigantic ass

32:17SPEAKERindustrial hot water heater in this building.

32:20SPEAKER- Oh yeah, my problem is that the distance,

32:22SPEAKERyou've got to clear the pipes from the garage to my bathroom.

32:26SPEAKER- It takes maybe 15 seconds for the water to get hot here.

32:29SPEAKER- Well, that's probably 'cause you're closest

32:30SPEAKERto the boiler.

32:31SPEAKER- Yes, we are right over the garage, so yes.

32:34SPEAKERI guess that's an important detail to omit.

32:36SPEAKER- Yeah, for me, it's a good like 90 seconds

32:39SPEAKERat least before I feel like it is ice cold,

32:43SPEAKERstraight from the well.

32:45SPEAKER- No, no, no, no, no, the hot water is rapid

32:48SPEAKERin this building, at least for us.

32:50SPEAKERHave you ever taken intentionally cold showers?

32:53SPEAKER- My hot water heater broke and it took 'em two weeks

32:55SPEAKERto get a replacement in for me once.

32:56SPEAKERI don't know if that counts.

32:58SPEAKER- Talking more voluntary.

33:01SPEAKERThere were supposed to be some health benefits.

33:04SPEAKERI feel like that's Puritan bullshit promoted by masochists.

33:10SPEAKERYou're not supposed to take two hot showers

33:12SPEAKER'cause it dries out your skin, which is bad.

33:16SPEAKERWhen I used to do more exercising

33:19SPEAKERand would get really, really hot and sweaty,

33:21SPEAKERI would come in and take a cold shower

33:23SPEAKERand then immediately make it warm

33:25SPEAKERas soon as the water was warmed up, so.

33:29SPEAKER- I don't know how much actual research there is

33:32SPEAKERinto the benefits of cold showers.

33:34SPEAKERI haven't done it much.

33:35SPEAKERDefinitely wake you up, I'll say that.

33:37SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, maybe I should take a cold shower right now.

33:40SPEAKERI'll be right back.

33:42SPEAKER- All right, well, I'm gonna answer the rest

33:44SPEAKERof these questions by myself then.

33:45SPEAKERHere's one from Hendubs.

33:48SPEAKEROn a recent FosPod, you talked about

33:50SPEAKERhow upstream internet access is often more limited

33:53SPEAKERthan downstream when it comes to commercial internet

33:55SPEAKERpackages.

33:58SPEAKERI think commercial usually is how you get around

34:00SPEAKERthat actually, right?

34:01SPEAKERLike business internet, like residential,

34:03SPEAKERabsolutely, that's true.

34:05SPEAKERI think getting better upstream in a lot of locations

34:09SPEAKERrequires upgrading to some kind of business package.

34:11SPEAKER- So in the old days with DSL, it was a,

34:15SPEAKERhere's how much math we can pack across

34:17SPEAKERthis pair of copper wires.

34:20SPEAKERAnd so they could choose to either do the same amount

34:23SPEAKERup and down, the same speed up and down,

34:24SPEAKERand you had a reduced amount,

34:26SPEAKERor you could do more down and less up,

34:28SPEAKERwhich was mirrored the usage of most home users.

34:31SPEAKER- Sorry, I should have finished reading this question

34:34SPEAKERbefore we got into it.

34:36SPEAKERSo yes, we've talked about how upstream

34:37SPEAKERis frequently more limited than downstream.

34:39SPEAKERBesides "money" in sneer quotes,

34:42SPEAKERare there any other reasons why ISPs do this?

34:45SPEAKERIf my pipes can handle gigabit speeds on the way down,

34:47SPEAKERwhy can't they send the same backup?

34:51SPEAKER- So in the old days it was because

34:52SPEAKERof technical limitations, right?

34:54SPEAKERYou had a limited amount of theoretical bandwidth

34:57SPEAKERfor the medium that you were using,

34:59SPEAKERtypically DSL in this case, but cable as well.

35:04SPEAKERAnd the provider would allocate based on your requirements.

35:08SPEAKERSo like I had an SDSL line for a long time

35:10SPEAKER'cause I wanted a little bit more upstream

35:12SPEAKERthan the 256K or whatever you would get in,

35:16SPEAKERwith like 2001 on a DSL line.

35:20SPEAKERIn the modern era, it's a little bit more,

35:25SPEAKERa little bit more of a marketing consideration.

35:26SPEAKERAlthough this didn't change during the pandemic.

35:29SPEAKERLike this is a thing, your cable providers,

35:32SPEAKERwhich are like most fiber providers,

35:35SPEAKERas I understand it, are pretty symmetrical.

35:37SPEAKERLike I'm 980, 980 on a speed test.

35:41SPEAKER- I have heard some examples of even gigabit fiber plans

35:48SPEAKERthat have fairly limited upstream, which is criminal,

35:51SPEAKERbut at least Sonic is very cool about it.

35:55SPEAKERI know AT&T customers get symmetrical.

35:57SPEAKER- Yeah, we're symmetrical on AT&T.

35:59SPEAKERGoogle is typically symmetrical.

36:04SPEAKERThe cable providers, part of the thing with cable

36:06SPEAKERis that the pool is shared upstream and downstream.

36:10SPEAKERSo limiting upstream prevents, let's say,

36:15SPEAKERif you are on a cable node with somebody

36:18SPEAKERwho is a BitTorrent user and they're pirating

36:20SPEAKERa boatload of movies and they're uploading at a high rate,

36:24SPEAKERthen that doesn't come out of just your upstream pool,

36:27SPEAKERit comes out of everybody's upstream pool.

36:28SPEAKERSo like you'll slow down everybody on the node,

36:31SPEAKERwhich is not great.

36:34SPEAKERI don't, prior to the pandemic starting

36:39SPEAKERand everybody working from home

36:40SPEAKERand having four or five people on Zoom

36:42SPEAKERon one connection upstream,

36:46SPEAKERchoking out everybody's upstream connections

36:48SPEAKERin like March of 2020, the cable providers

36:51SPEAKERwere pretty vociferous that they felt there was no need

36:54SPEAKERfor upstream on home users.

36:56SPEAKERAnd that's why you saw a lot of 10 megabit upstream plans,

36:59SPEAKEReven with good, it was not uncommon in the U.S.

37:03SPEAKERto see a 250 megabit down, 10 megabit up

37:06SPEAKERas the expensive package in a region.

37:10SPEAKERThey have, you're shaking your head.

37:12SPEAKERThey realized that that was an issue

37:15SPEAKERwith the start of the pandemic and it started to change

37:18SPEAKERa little bit, like 25, you'll see 25 or 50 megabit up now

37:21SPEAKERon a pretty normal package.

37:24SPEAKERI don't know, it seems like it's mostly,

37:26SPEAKERhey, we can charge more for upstream

37:28SPEAKERbecause only businesses and content creators want upstream.

37:32SPEAKER- That hasn't been my cynical presumption, yes.

37:34SPEAKERI was looking around, if you remember,

37:36SPEAKERI think it was last year, it might've been 2020.

37:38SPEAKERI mean, these years have blended together a little bit,

37:40SPEAKERbut sometimes since the pandemic started,

37:42SPEAKERCongress was actually trying to redefine the term broadband

37:45SPEAKERat a federal level. - That was an Obama era thing.

37:48SPEAKER- Are you sure, well- - It started then.

37:50SPEAKER- Well, it came back up then after the pandemic started,

37:52SPEAKERthey were trying to get broadband classified

37:54SPEAKERas minimum 100, 100. - Oh yeah, yeah.

37:57SPEAKER- What was it?

37:58SPEAKERI can't remember exactly.

37:59SPEAKER- It was 125, if I recall, but I don't-

38:02SPEAKER- 100 down, 25 up, you mean?

38:03SPEAKER- That's what I think, yeah.

38:05SPEAKER- I think it was something like that,

38:06SPEAKERwhich like 25 is not terrible.

38:07SPEAKERI mean, it's not amazing,

38:09SPEAKERbut it's certainly workable for most people.

38:12SPEAKER- I mean, look, if you're not uploading videos,

38:16SPEAKERlike when we started uploading,

38:17SPEAKERwhen we started working on Tested,

38:18SPEAKERwe're uploading videos from home

38:22SPEAKERjust because our work internet, the upstream was so slow on,

38:26SPEAKERthen I suddenly cared a lot more about upstream.

38:29SPEAKERIf you're just doing zooms and like playing Among Us

38:33SPEAKERand your kids are playing video games,

38:35SPEAKERyou're probably fine with 25 megabit upstream.

38:38SPEAKER- Absolutely. - Yeah.

38:39SPEAKER- Trying to upload multi-gigabit files though.

38:42SPEAKER- Sucks. - Aw, great.

38:44SPEAKER- Yeah. - But that's pretty specialized.

38:45SPEAKER- Imagine you're trying to upload

38:46SPEAKERthree different builds of a video game

38:48SPEAKERto one of your valued partners.

38:51SPEAKER- Oh man, well, that's when you gotta start

38:52SPEAKERremoting into stuff, but we'll talk about that

38:54SPEAKERin a few minutes. - Yeah.

38:56SPEAKER- Just a Box asks, "Did you ever have a username

38:59SPEAKERthat you regretted?

39:00SPEAKERHave you changed usernames over the years?"

39:02SPEAKER- I kinda, my Quake 1 clan

39:07SPEAKERwas called Demolition Crew, with a K.

39:10SPEAKER- Of course, with a K.

39:11SPEAKER- With a K, we were in the HPB leagues.

39:15SPEAKERMy, the night that I joined the,

39:19SPEAKERthat I passed the tryout, tryout,

39:20SPEAKER'cause it was like you had to try out for the clan,

39:24SPEAKERthe night that I passed the tryout,

39:26SPEAKERthey were like, "Well, what's your name gonna be?"

39:28SPEAKERAnd I'd been Gonzo, I think, everywhere up until that point.

39:32SPEAKERThey were like, "There's already a Gonzo in the league,

39:33SPEAKERwe gotta have something else."

39:34SPEAKERAnd the episode of Seinfeld,

39:36SPEAKERwhere they saw the proctologist

39:39SPEAKERwhose license plate said Assman,

39:41SPEAKERwas on. - Oh no.

39:42SPEAKER(laughing)

39:44SPEAKER- So my handle for the entirety

39:46SPEAKERof my Quake 1 HPB league career was DK-Assman.

39:52SPEAKERWasn't great, Brad, wasn't great.

39:54SPEAKER- I'm afraid that's not eligible as an episode title.

39:57SPEAKER- Thank God.

39:58SPEAKER- I just can't do it.

39:59SPEAKER- Yeah, I appreciate that, thank you.

40:02SPEAKER- Boy, that's some good work.

40:03SPEAKERI never understood the term HPB.

40:05SPEAKER- High ping bastard.

40:06SPEAKER- Oh, I know, I know what it means.

40:07SPEAKERI'm saying low ping bastard makes sense.

40:10SPEAKERYou're a bastard because you're lucky enough

40:11SPEAKERto have a low ping,

40:12SPEAKERbut why are you a bastard for having a high ping?

40:14SPEAKER- I think it was just so you,

40:16SPEAKERlike literally the league was if your ping

40:19SPEAKERhad to be over 250 or you couldn't play in that league.

40:22SPEAKER- Oh, I get it.

40:22SPEAKERI mean, the real answer is nobody thought about it very hard.

40:25SPEAKER- Yeah, it's like ATM machines.

40:27SPEAKER- Yes, it doesn't quite stand up to scrutiny, okay.

40:30SPEAKER- What, do you have a nickname you didn't like there, Brad?

40:33SPEAKER- Really, my usernames have been pretty consistent

40:37SPEAKERfor the last 20 plus years.

40:39SPEAKER- That's true.

40:39SPEAKER- After I went through my like dumb ones on BBSs

40:42SPEAKERthat didn't stick.

40:44SPEAKER- This would have been in like early Quake world days,

40:46SPEAKERprobably even before GL Quake world landed.

40:48SPEAKER- God, my NIC that I was using on IRC in like '96, '97

40:53SPEAKERis still in use today in some places, as a matter of fact.

40:56SPEAKER- Wow, that's shocking.

40:58SPEAKER- Yes, okay.

40:59SPEAKERThe master DS writes in.

41:02SPEAKERThe Crunchyroll Funimation merger,

41:05SPEAKERwhich has reached the point where most Funimation shows

41:07SPEAKERhave been put onto Crunchyroll

41:08SPEAKERand a message tells users to go watch there

41:11SPEAKERwhen they do watch them on Funimation, has me thinking,

41:14SPEAKERif you could consolidate any streaming service

41:16SPEAKERinto any other, which ones would you pick?

41:20SPEAKER- Wow, what do you think your criteria is for this?

41:24SPEAKER- Yeah, that's kind of a high concept question.

41:25SPEAKERI'm trying to think like, I would say,

41:28SPEAKERI mean, content obviously, programming, availability,

41:32SPEAKERgood stuff to watch.

41:33SPEAKERI would say the one that should absorb the other one

41:36SPEAKERshould be the one that has the best

41:37SPEAKERand the most widespread apps across different platforms.

41:40SPEAKER- I think the app problem is pretty solved though.

41:42SPEAKER- Think so?

41:43SPEAKER- Yeah.

41:44SPEAKER- Some of them are still pretty rotten.

41:46SPEAKERI don't know if you've used

41:47SPEAKERsome of the AlsoRAN streaming services out there.

41:50SPEAKER- I mean, I don't know about AlsoRANs,

41:51SPEAKERbut I flip on like criteria and every once in a while,

41:55SPEAKERor like I actually signed up for AMC+ a couple of weeks ago

41:58SPEAKERwhen I turned something else off.

42:00SPEAKERWell, 'cause I wanted to watch,

42:01SPEAKERI wanted to see what the Halton Catch Fire stitch

42:02SPEAKERwas like over there.

42:04SPEAKER- Okay, oh sure, yes, yes, that is research.

42:07SPEAKERThe, I'm trying to think, like, I don't know.

42:13SPEAKERLike we have like a couple of things

42:14SPEAKERthat like Disney+ and Netflix and Hulu,

42:17SPEAKERbecause that's where we get TV, are pretty much always on.

42:20SPEAKERAnd I think I get HBO through my ISP or my cell phone plan,

42:24SPEAKERI can't remember, but like, it's just bundled in

42:27SPEAKERwith something else that I can't not pay for it,

42:29SPEAKERso it's free.

42:33SPEAKERSo like, and then the other stuff we turn on and off,

42:35SPEAKERlike Paramount+ turns on and off as we're watching stuff.

42:40SPEAKERIt's a weird, this is a weird way to get TV, it turns out.

42:44SPEAKER- It is.

42:46SPEAKERThere was a conversation on our Discord this very day,

42:49SPEAKERand I'm trying to source it, or I'm trying to,

42:52SPEAKERokay, this came from Microsoft, I guess.

42:55SPEAKERLet me just confirm that's what I'm actually,

42:57SPEAKERyes, this was a Microsoft talk at GDC about Game Pass.

43:00SPEAKER- Oh, okay.

43:01SPEAKER- So I guess this is probably pretty solid market research.

43:04SPEAKERThese numbers are crazy.

43:06SPEAKERThe average US household has nine subscription services

43:09SPEAKERand 25 connected devices.

43:11SPEAKER- That seems right.

43:12SPEAKER- Nine subscription services.

43:14SPEAKERConsumers spend an average of $273 a month

43:18SPEAKERon subscription services.

43:19SPEAKER- Jesus Christ, that's insane.

43:20SPEAKERDoes that count like cell phone services

43:22SPEAKERor is this just content?

43:23SPEAKER- It doesn't break it out.

43:25SPEAKERIn fact, there's no granularity really at all there

43:28SPEAKERthat I could see, you know, because they are Microsoft,

43:33SPEAKERthey're including stuff like Game Pass in there.

43:34SPEAKERThat's not just video streaming services.

43:36SPEAKERThat could be a whole bunch of stuff,

43:38SPEAKERbut that's still a lot of video streaming services.

43:41SPEAKER- 25 devices though, holy cow.

43:43SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, that's probably like every phone

43:44SPEAKERin the house and, you know, a Roku in every room

43:47SPEAKERand whatever, whatever.

43:48SPEAKER- Yeah, maybe.

43:49SPEAKER- It's that $273 a month was the thing

43:52SPEAKERthat really knocked me out of my seat.

43:53SPEAKER- So I assume that means like your ISP plus.

43:56SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, if that's counting your internet bill

43:58SPEAKERin there, then I feel like that's a pretty fuzzy definition

44:01SPEAKERof services. - I'm probably in the ballpark.

44:03SPEAKERI don't know, I mean, yeah, it's weird.

44:06SPEAKERLike I don't, like Game Pass would firmly be the kind

44:10SPEAKERof thing that I turn on and off as I'm using it

44:12SPEAKERif I didn't like have a business reason to have Game Pass.

44:16SPEAKER- Right, same.

44:18SPEAKERGod, I'm trying to, I don't have a great answer

44:19SPEAKERfor this question.

44:20SPEAKERI consistently only subscribe to Netflix

44:23SPEAKERand I barely use that.

44:24SPEAKERSo I just don't watch a ton of TV.

44:27SPEAKER- I watched Stargate the movie the other day on Netflix.

44:30SPEAKER- Oh man, the James Spader classic, young James Spader.

44:33SPEAKER- I don't know that I have seen that since it was new.

44:35SPEAKER- How's it hold up?

44:39SPEAKER- It's a little, there's some uncomfortable stuff.

44:41SPEAKER- Oh, okay, well, it goes for a lot of stuff from the 90s.

44:46SPEAKER- Yeah, it's like a pretty typical 90s level of discomfort.

44:51SPEAKERThere's a little bit of white saviorism there

44:53SPEAKERthat's kind of like a little bit weird now.

44:56SPEAKER- Okay.

44:57SPEAKER- It was like space white saviorism, but like, I don't know.

45:01SPEAKERI enjoyed it.

45:02SPEAKERI would not watch it again probably,

45:04SPEAKERbut I did not regret watching it.

45:06SPEAKER- That's fair.

45:07SPEAKERI attempted to watch, I have no idea why I did this.

45:11SPEAKERI attempted to watch the late 90s remake

45:14SPEAKERof Lost in Space recently.

45:16SPEAKER- Oh, that's a terrible movie.

45:17SPEAKER- Oh, it's bad.

45:18SPEAKER- It's got bad CG.

45:20SPEAKER- RIP William Hurt, to be fair.

45:23SPEAKER- Yeah, I hope this wasn't a,

45:26SPEAKERhe's also, William Hurt did not seem like a very nice person

45:29SPEAKERfor the record.

45:30SPEAKER- I don't know, I don't know anything about him.

45:32SPEAKER- Fantastic performer.

45:33SPEAKERLike broadcast news is one of my all-time favorite movies,

45:36SPEAKERbut yeah, not a nice man, it seems like.

45:38SPEAKER- Okay, I was not aware of that.

45:39SPEAKERBut you are not wrong though.

45:41SPEAKERThe CG is abysmal in that movie, I mean.

45:45SPEAKER- It's like Babylon five levels of bad.

45:47SPEAKER- So yes, not only is it terrible,

45:49SPEAKERbut they were just way overdoing it.

45:51SPEAKERLike they did not know when to say no.

45:53SPEAKERLike there are entire-

45:54SPEAKER- It has a digital character.

45:56SPEAKER- Yes, well, so yeah, AA, like 30 seconds of the movie,

45:59SPEAKERthere are entire protracted digital like space fight scenes

46:02SPEAKERwith CG that could not be any better than Babylon five,

46:07SPEAKERmaybe worse.

46:07SPEAKER- It looks like they just modded Wing Commander

46:10SPEAKERfor the price of freedom.

46:12SPEAKER- Yes.

46:13SPEAKER- And then captured some footage out of there.

46:14SPEAKER- Like I can't even imagine what it was like seeing that

46:16SPEAKERon a giant movie screen, CG that bad.

46:19SPEAKERAnd yes, they have a,

46:20SPEAKERthey sort of have a pre Jar Jar Binks digital character,

46:23SPEAKERlike a full on, like a little alien pet kind of,

46:26SPEAKERI mean, it doesn't talk, thankfully.

46:28SPEAKERThere's no dialogue from it.

46:29SPEAKERIt's just a-

46:30SPEAKER- It's just cute.

46:31SPEAKER- Cartoony animal kind of character.

46:33SPEAKER- It's like the Ally McBeal dancing baby.

46:36SPEAKER- Like watching, let's see, I'm having this problem again.

46:39SPEAKERI can't remember actors names, Matt.

46:42SPEAKER- Matt LeBlanc.

46:43SPEAKER- Matt LeBlanc.

46:43SPEAKER- Joey from Friends.

46:44SPEAKER- Yes, Joey from Friends, who else was in that movie?

46:46SPEAKER- Heather Graham, straight off of Boogie Nights,

46:48SPEAKERrolled into that, Mimi.

46:50SPEAKER- Mimi Rogers.

46:53SPEAKER- Mimi Rogers is the mom, I can't remember who the kid is.

46:57SPEAKER- From Party of Five.

46:59SPEAKER- That's right.

46:59SPEAKER- I looked up the kid, the young, like the young genius.

47:02SPEAKERI mean, Will Rogers, right?

47:03SPEAKER- Yeah.

47:04SPEAKER- Robinson, she's Will Robinson, I'm sorry.

47:08SPEAKERHe was a child actor that kind of became nobody.

47:12SPEAKERLike I don't-

47:12SPEAKER- I was gonna say, was he Malcolm

47:13SPEAKERfrom Malcolm in the Middle or something?

47:15SPEAKERBut no.

47:15SPEAKER- It seems like he went on to have

47:17SPEAKERnot much of an adult career.

47:18SPEAKERAnyway, I didn't make it more than an hour into the movie.

47:22SPEAKERI don't know what I was thinking.

47:26SPEAKER- That was the first DVD I got that,

47:28SPEAKERthat came with my Sound Blaster DVD-ROM drive.

47:31SPEAKER- I think that's why I pulled it up on someone's Plex.

47:35SPEAKER- Yeah.

47:36SPEAKER- I won't name any names.

47:37SPEAKER- Yeah.

47:38SPEAKER- Someone we know had it on their Plex.

47:39SPEAKER- Weird, what a weird coincidence.

47:41SPEAKER(laughing)

47:43SPEAKER- You're totally right though.

47:44SPEAKERYou just reminded me that I also got

47:46SPEAKERthe first DVD player my family ever bought came with,

47:49SPEAKERyou know, you'd kind of get your free-

47:49SPEAKER- You got like seven discs.

47:51SPEAKER- Yeah, you get your free DVDs

47:53SPEAKERand that was the only one I remember for whatever reason.

47:55SPEAKER- I got that in Twister, the two I remember.

47:57SPEAKERMaybe Hunt for Red October, but.

47:59SPEAKER- Yeah, maybe that's why I was weirdly nostalgic for it.

48:01SPEAKER- The answer to this question for me

48:04SPEAKERis I would put Hulu's content on literally any other service

48:09SPEAKERbecause that app is incomprehensible to me

48:12SPEAKERand I don't like, the way that they do the live TV stuff

48:16SPEAKERand the app stuff and how it's integrated,

48:19SPEAKERI'm sure makes sense to somebody,

48:21SPEAKERbut I fundamentally cannot grasp it

48:23SPEAKERand it frustrates me mightily.

48:26SPEAKER- Huh, I passed up there.

48:27SPEAKERHulu had like an amazingly cheap deal,

48:29SPEAKERI think on Black Friday and I almost jumped on it

48:32SPEAKERuntil I like pulled up a,

48:33SPEAKER"Hey, what is on Hulu?" kind of article

48:35SPEAKERand couldn't really find anything I cared about.

48:38SPEAKER- We use it to do live TV, like that's all we have before

48:41SPEAKERand we were literally talking about getting rid of it

48:43SPEAKER'cause we only use it when like the Olympics are on

48:46SPEAKERand yeah, stuff like that.

48:47SPEAKER- We are on a family plan for YouTube TV

48:51SPEAKERthat has served us well for a very low price.

48:54SPEAKER- Oh, the, well, okay, that's good.

48:59SPEAKER- Yeah, and Netflix, that's, and we have Amazon Prime

49:02SPEAKER'cause we have for the shipping,

49:03SPEAKERbut I kind of never watch anything on there.

49:06SPEAKERTheir video quality is not great.

49:08SPEAKER- It's a weird, that's a weird service.

49:11SPEAKER- I watched "The Boys" on that.

49:12SPEAKER- Yes, "The Boys" is the one.

49:14SPEAKER- Both are good, yes.

49:16SPEAKER- "The Boys" season three is ramping up.

49:17SPEAKERThey're starting to promote it pretty heavily.

49:19SPEAKER- Look, I'll always take more Karl Urban in my life,

49:22SPEAKERit turns out.

49:22SPEAKER- "The Boys" is one of the most uncomfortable TV shows

49:25SPEAKERI've ever seen.

49:26SPEAKER- You should watch "Invincible."

49:27SPEAKERIt really, yeah, you'd like it.

49:30SPEAKER- Yeah, okay, all right.

49:32SPEAKERLet's do a few more questions here.

49:33SPEAKEREMP Quad Force, this question is amazing.

49:39SPEAKERWill you ever close survey.content.town?

49:41SPEAKER- Never. - Never.

49:43SPEAKER- Gonna be Space Jam and survey.content.town

49:46SPEAKERare gonna be the last two websites on the internet,

49:48SPEAKERas far as I'm concerned. - We've solicited feedback.

49:51SPEAKEROne day it'll be cockroaches and survey.content.town

49:56SPEAKERremaining on planet earth.

49:57SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm gonna, look, if I make enough money,

50:02SPEAKERmy goal is to launch a solar powered satellite

50:08SPEAKERinto outer space that connects to the internet

50:11SPEAKERand broadcasts and serves as the DNS and host

50:15SPEAKERfor survey.content.town.

50:17SPEAKER- And we will train a neural net

50:19SPEAKERto endlessly provide feedback to survey.content.town.

50:22SPEAKER- I guess I should probably update the, wow,

50:25SPEAKERwe found there, wow, a lot of people have responded to this

50:27SPEAKERsince the last time we talked about it.

50:29SPEAKER- Really?

50:30SPEAKERHuh, weird, good to know.

50:33SPEAKERIs it just the same person

50:34SPEAKERproviding increasingly unhinged answers?

50:36SPEAKER- Yeah, it's just Warbird over and over again

50:38SPEAKERtalking about college football, I think.

50:40SPEAKER- God damn it, okay, moving on.

50:42SPEAKERAndreas 3000, if you were exiled from California,

50:45SPEAKERwhere would you most want to live?

50:46SPEAKER- And this is a really good question.

50:48SPEAKERWe ask this one a lot.

50:50SPEAKER- Like my knee-jerk answer

50:52SPEAKERis somewhere cheap with good internet.

50:54SPEAKERLike that seems probably a little obvious.

50:56SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I have a kid, so we have school issues.

50:59SPEAKER- You've got school stuff.

51:00SPEAKERI mean, like realistically it's like close to family

51:05SPEAKERis an answer, well, I've only got considerations.

51:07SPEAKER- I'm kidding, Dan.

51:11SPEAKERI mean, we've literally been going through this though.

51:14SPEAKER'Cause we're kind of ready to pull the rip cord.

51:16SPEAKERIt seems like the right time to leave California right now.

51:19SPEAKERAnd like, I don't want to live someplace

51:22SPEAKERwhere my daughter is gonna grow up

51:25SPEAKERin some fascist nightmare.

51:27SPEAKERSo that's like 40% of the country by population

51:30SPEAKERand 70 by volume gone.

51:34SPEAKERAnd then you're left with like,

51:35SPEAKERI don't know, Michigan and Illinois.

51:37SPEAKERAnd I don't want to live someplace too,

51:39SPEAKERso the South is all out basically.

51:42SPEAKERAnd I don't want to live someplace

51:44SPEAKERthat's gonna flood or burn.

51:46SPEAKERSo like Colorado, the Northwest, all that stuff gone.

51:52SPEAKERI don't know, maybe Vermont is the answer, I guess.

51:55SPEAKERVermont seems nice.

51:57SPEAKERNever been there before.

51:59SPEAKER- Every time I think about leaving San Francisco,

52:02SPEAKERlike it hits me how much I would miss the food.

52:04SPEAKER- I think I'd be okay, it turns out.

52:06SPEAKER- On the other hand, we'd never ever eat out anymore, so.

52:09SPEAKER- That's the thing is like,

52:10SPEAKERI've eaten out twice in the last three years, I'm fine.

52:13SPEAKERI were to take out kind of a lot,

52:14SPEAKERbut most of the takeout we get is pretty replicable

52:18SPEAKERin the rest of the country.

52:19SPEAKER- All right, let's do a few more here.

52:21SPEAKERGauge 006, man, this was a tough one.

52:25SPEAKERIf you got out of the matrix,

52:26SPEAKERwould you pull your spouse or partner out?

52:28SPEAKER- I'd refuse to answer this question.

52:31SPEAKERThere's no good answer.

52:32SPEAKER- Man, I guess you're right.

52:34SPEAKER- Like if you pull them out, you're an asshole,

52:36SPEAKER'cause like all of a sudden their life is horrible,

52:38SPEAKERthey can gruel, sure, they're free, but at what cost?

52:41SPEAKERAnd if you don't, you're a monster.

52:43SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I guess I would rather be an asshole

52:46SPEAKERthan a monster when it came down to it.

52:49SPEAKER- I mean, you'd think that,

52:49SPEAKERbut I think my wife would be pretty pissed

52:51SPEAKERonce she tried the food.

52:54SPEAKER- Yeah.

52:55SPEAKER- Maybe I'm being, maybe I'm underestimating her, though.

53:00SPEAKER- This is a tough, like, and also realistically,

53:03SPEAKERI'm old enough that I would probably go crazy

53:05SPEAKERwhen you pull me out.

53:06SPEAKERMy brain is not plastic enough

53:08SPEAKERto deal with that level of change.

53:09SPEAKER- Would you pull the, would you pull the cipher?

53:13SPEAKER- Would I make the deal to go back in?

53:15SPEAKER- To demand that you be put back in

53:16SPEAKERand also be made someone famous and important?

53:20SPEAKER- I think I'd rather be wealthy and anonymous

53:23SPEAKERif I was choosing.

53:24SPEAKER- Well, he didn't seem like a guy

53:26SPEAKERwith the best judgment, personally.

53:28SPEAKER- Fair, fair.

53:31SPEAKERReal solid Joey Pants performance, though.

53:33SPEAKER- Yeah, yes.

53:35SPEAKERThe one, you know, he gave the one that he gives.

53:39SPEAKER- Well, yeah, he's kind of like, he's like, hmm.

53:44SPEAKERI feel like he should be Nic Cage's little brother

53:46SPEAKERin something at some point.

53:47SPEAKER- Huh, yeah, sure, I see it.

53:50SPEAKERMaybe older brother, I don't know.

53:51SPEAKERAll right, another question from Cakebatter, really.

53:55SPEAKERJust bringing it with the questions this month.

53:56SPEAKER- Carrying the whole channel this month.

53:58SPEAKERThis was while I was on the East Coast.

54:02SPEAKERHas Brad taken the valuable family, question mark,

54:05SPEAKERtime away from the bay to install a geographically distinct

54:09SPEAKERoffsite backup slash NAS with VPN access to his network?

54:13SPEAKERI would be lying if I didn't say about halfway

54:16SPEAKERthrough that trip, that very thought didn't hurt me.

54:19SPEAKERIt absolutely did, to the point that I was like

54:22SPEAKERlooking around thinking like, where would I put

54:25SPEAKERRaspberry Pi and a little backplane of four hard drives?

54:28SPEAKERLike, what is their downstream here?

54:31SPEAKERIt's pretty good.

54:32SPEAKER- What are their caps like is the real question.

54:34SPEAKER- How hard would it be to switch them over to something

54:36SPEAKERthat I could easily run a VPN on?

54:38SPEAKER- You'd have to buy him a router, right, probably?

54:40SPEAKER- If I wanted to run a VPN remotely

54:42SPEAKERthat I would tunnel into, yes, but now I'm sitting here

54:44SPEAKERtrying to work it out in my head.

54:46SPEAKER- Just wire cast into that machine, right?

54:48SPEAKER- Wire guard, well no, because I'm trying to think,

54:52SPEAKERlike what I'm trying to think is I already run a VPN here.

54:55SPEAKER- Yeah.

54:56SPEAKER- I'm trying to think, is there a way I could have

54:57SPEAKERthat Raspberry Pi tunnel in here, no, that would not.

55:01SPEAKER- Yeah, you could do that.

55:02SPEAKER- How would I trigger that though?

55:03SPEAKER- You just have to set it in the boot.

55:05SPEAKERIt'd have to happen at launch.

55:07SPEAKER- You mean leave it permanently tunneled in here?

55:09SPEAKER- Yeah.

55:10SPEAKER- I wonder what kind of performance considerations that has.

55:13SPEAKER- It's probably gonna be fine, but it won't use

55:16SPEAKERany bandwidth until you dump a R sync to it or whatever.

55:20SPEAKER- I guess you're right.

55:20SPEAKERI mean, there's probably no overhead on the router.

55:22SPEAKER- Hardly any.

55:23SPEAKER- If it's not crunching encryption,

55:24SPEAKERthen it kind of doesn't do anything, does it?

55:27SPEAKER- Yeah, and if you're gonna be using something

55:28SPEAKERthat's light on encryption, it's not like it's gonna hit

55:30SPEAKERthe CPU on the router or anything like that real hard.

55:33SPEAKER- I might have to think about this.

55:34SPEAKER- I mean, the question is, do you want to have

55:36SPEAKERan unencrypted backup of all your stuff

55:37SPEAKERsomeplace that you don't control physically?

55:39SPEAKER- Oh, it could be encrypted.

55:40SPEAKER- I guess you could encrypt it.

55:42SPEAKERBut on the Raspberry Pi, I don't know if you can actually.

55:44SPEAKER- No, I definitely could.

55:45SPEAKERI mean, I would do a ZFS volume and you could encrypt that.

55:49SPEAKER- On a Raspberry Pi?

55:50SPEAKER- Yeah, absolutely, I do it in my house.

55:52SPEAKER- Okay.

55:53SPEAKER- I have a Pi 4 with two hard drives plugged into it

55:54SPEAKERthat are a striped ZFS volume that I replicate my NAS to

55:57SPEAKERevery night.

55:58SPEAKER- Wow.

55:59SPEAKER- It's pretty awesome.

56:00SPEAKER- I never even considered that.

56:01SPEAKER- I have to say, I just send snapshots.

56:03SPEAKERI replicate snapshots of my ZFS pool over my network

56:06SPEAKERto that Raspberry Pi across the house.

56:08SPEAKER- Well, so you can find out what kind of overhead

56:09SPEAKERit's gonna be by just tracking that traffic on that machine.

56:14SPEAKER- I think I get about 400 megabit throughput with the VPN

56:18SPEAKERthat I'm currently running on this router.

56:20SPEAKERWireGuard might be more performant.

56:21SPEAKER- Well, you know, I'm just saying like what the impact

56:23SPEAKERis gonna be on your parents.

56:24SPEAKERLike you don't wanna blow out your parents' internet plan.

56:27SPEAKER- Well, I do it overnight when they're asleep.

56:28SPEAKER- No, no, but I'm just saying if they have like a

56:30SPEAKERone terabyte cap and you're dumping all the stuff

56:33SPEAKERthat you put on your NAS every month

56:35SPEAKERwith all your work videos,

56:36SPEAKERyou can fill out their bandwidth cap in no time.

56:39SPEAKER- I don't actually keep that much of that stuff permanently.

56:41SPEAKER- Okay.

56:42SPEAKER- Like I'm actually, most days I'm replicating

56:45SPEAKERlike basically nothing or like at most

56:47SPEAKERlike a few hundred megabytes.

56:48SPEAKERSomething to consider.

56:49SPEAKER- What do you call San Francisco when you're abbreviating it

56:52SPEAKERin conversation?

56:54SPEAKER- Um, let's see.

56:56SPEAKER- Like SF.

56:57SPEAKER- SF, I think.

56:59SPEAKER- San Francisco, the city.

57:01SPEAKERWe do the city occasionally.

57:02SPEAKER- I only say the city to other people who live around here.

57:05SPEAKER- Well, the city for us is like, it's like a,

57:07SPEAKERhey, I'm gonna go to the city today, do you need anything?

57:10SPEAKERKind of. - That's what I mean.

57:10SPEAKER- That's what it's not like,

57:11SPEAKERthat's not a proper noun in this case.

57:13SPEAKERIt's just the nearest big city to where I live.

57:16SPEAKER- Right, like I wouldn't refer to San Francisco

57:17SPEAKERas the city to my relatives or whatever.

57:19SPEAKER- Yeah, no, that's just,

57:20SPEAKERthat's the marketing for the warriors talking.

57:22SPEAKER- Yes, SF is probably what I would say.

57:24SPEAKER- The hipsters are trying to make Frisco a thing.

57:26SPEAKER- Wait, dude, as long as I've lived here,

57:29SPEAKERpeople like locals, natives are like, do not say Frisco.

57:33SPEAKER- Yeah. - Whatever you do,

57:34SPEAKERwhatever you call it, don't make it Frisco.

57:36SPEAKER- I feel like this is a Matt Honan thing.

57:38SPEAKERHe's been trying to make Frisco happen for like a decade now

57:40SPEAKERit's finally starting to stick.

57:42SPEAKER- Hmm, we should probably, let's see,

57:46SPEAKERtake a couple, three more and then wrap this up

57:48SPEAKERbecause I'll have you know my script.

57:52SPEAKER- The script that turns windows from light mode

57:55SPEAKERto dark mode just triggered.

57:56SPEAKER- Oh, it's eight o'clock, yeah, shit.

57:58SPEAKER- Which I have a cron for at 8 p.m.

58:01SPEAKERHow much time do we have?

58:02SPEAKER- I mean, probably 30 minutes,

58:03SPEAKERbut I got to eat too at some point.

58:05SPEAKER- Oh crap, well, man, we got like four more good questions.

58:07SPEAKER- Well, let's go, let's do it, lightning round.

58:10SPEAKER- Here is a perfectly relevant question

58:13SPEAKERfrom Shags Magoo again.

58:15SPEAKER- Yeah.

58:16SPEAKER- What is your preferred dark mode color?

58:18SPEAKERDo you like a sort of grayish like discord?

58:21SPEAKERThe dark teal color that is Twitter dim mode,

58:24SPEAKERwhich is my pick, his pick, not mine.

58:27SPEAKER- Oh, okay.

58:28SPEAKER- Well, actually also mine.

58:29SPEAKEROr a straight black background

58:30SPEAKERor are you a godless Philistine who keeps a light mode on?

58:34SPEAKER- Never a light mode, I'm always dark mode.

58:36SPEAKER- Like even for windows, like full time, all day?

58:39SPEAKER- My monitor is dark as the sun.

58:43SPEAKER- Interesting, okay.

58:45SPEAKER- Wait, that's not right, but.

58:45SPEAKER- Like I just alluded to, I have a little script

58:48SPEAKERthat sets me to light mode at like eight in the morning,

58:51SPEAKER8.30 and then back.

58:54SPEAKER- I am annoyed that I can't dark mode Google docs easily.

58:58SPEAKER- Yeah.

58:59SPEAKER- I mean, there's some scripts for it,

59:00SPEAKERbut it's not worth the hassle and it makes it slow.

59:02SPEAKER- Yeah, the answer is actual question.

59:04SPEAKERI tend to like, I like that dark teal that Twitter has.

59:08SPEAKER- Mine depends on the screen that I'm using.

59:10SPEAKER- Yeah, that's fair.

59:11SPEAKER- So like on the PC where it's backlit LCDs,

59:15SPEAKERI do like a dark gray.

59:17SPEAKER- Okay, yeah.

59:19SPEAKER- On my phone, which has an OLED screen,

59:21SPEAKERwhich means that like the more black pixels I have,

59:23SPEAKERthe less power I use, black is night.

59:25SPEAKER- Oh, for sure, absolutely.

59:26SPEAKERThat goes without saying.

59:27SPEAKERI don't mind Discord's kind of default.

59:31SPEAKER- Discord's.

59:32SPEAKER- The dark gray.

59:33SPEAKER- Yeah, Discord's dark gray is like three shades lighter

59:35SPEAKERthan my menu bar in windows, so it's fine.

59:37SPEAKER- Yeah, like dark gray and dark teal,

59:39SPEAKERI think are my favorites.

59:40SPEAKERHere's a question.

59:42SPEAKERI just found out a couple of nights ago

59:44SPEAKERthat the very newest models of Kindle have a dark mode.

59:47SPEAKER- The black, the e-ink ones?

59:50SPEAKER- Yeah, the newest, the 10th Gen Paperwhite

59:54SPEAKERand like whatever the newest Oasis is have dark modes now.

59:57SPEAKER- How does that work?

59:58SPEAKERSo they only--

59:59SPEAKER- Straight up black e-ink screen with white text on it.

1:00:02SPEAKER- And that's the first thing I've heard in a decade

1:00:04SPEAKERthat makes me want to upgrade to one of those.

1:00:06SPEAKER- I know, that was my question.

1:00:07SPEAKERLike I instantly wanted to,

1:00:08SPEAKERI have a 7th Gen Paperwhite, which works just fine,

1:00:11SPEAKERexcept that it doesn't have dark mode.

1:00:13SPEAKER- I have a Voyager, which is like the pre-Oasis fancy one.

1:00:17SPEAKER- Well, I think they discontinued those, right?

1:00:18SPEAKER- They discontinued it, yeah, a few years ago.

1:00:20SPEAKER- I don't know.

1:00:21SPEAKERShould I get rid of a perfectly functional Kindle

1:00:24SPEAKERjust to get a new one that has dark mode?

1:00:25SPEAKER- I literally, it's funny 'cause I literally use my phone

1:00:29SPEAKERto read instead of the Kindle often

1:00:31SPEAKERbecause I like the dark background on the screen.

1:00:34SPEAKER- Even at the lowest legible setting,

1:00:36SPEAKERthe bright, the backlight on a Kindle is like unusable

1:00:40SPEAKERand in a dark room to me, like it's so bright.

1:00:42SPEAKER- Oh, see, mine is the opposite problem.

1:00:44SPEAKERThe granularity is such that I can go from too dark

1:00:47SPEAKERto too bright and there's not enough space in the settings

1:00:53SPEAKERfor me to get it where I want it.

1:00:54SPEAKER- Well, that's what I'm saying.

1:00:55SPEAKERLike I just can't find, it's just that light colored screen

1:00:59SPEAKERat night when you're trying to fall asleep

1:01:00SPEAKERand you just want to read something before bed.

1:01:02SPEAKER- It's pretty bright.

1:01:03SPEAKER- It's so, ugh, you consider just turning on a lamp.

1:01:06SPEAKER- Yeah, but then like.

1:01:08SPEAKER- Yeah, no, I know.

1:01:10SPEAKER- I want the lights off to help me.

1:01:11SPEAKERLook, I have a very light sleeper, okay.

1:01:14SPEAKERMan, I'm sitting here looking at a photo

1:01:17SPEAKERof this dark mode Kindle and this is gonna, yeah.

1:01:21SPEAKER- This is, it'll be, you know what,

1:01:22SPEAKERI'm gonna make a prediction.

1:01:24SPEAKERIt is March 23rd as we're recording this.

1:01:26SPEAKERI bet by April, May, June, July, August.

1:01:30SPEAKERI bet by September.

1:01:31SPEAKERI bet on Black Friday sales, maybe, let's say September.

1:01:36SPEAKERI bet by September you have one of these.

1:01:38SPEAKER- Ooh, wow, this might actually be worth the upgrade.

1:01:41SPEAKERThe 11th gen Kindle Paperwhite looks significantly,

1:01:44SPEAKERwhich, oh, you have Voyager, you said.

1:01:46SPEAKER- Yeah, the Voyager, it's like a fifth,

1:01:49SPEAKERI'll tell you when I bought it in a sec.

1:01:50SPEAKER- Would you be willing to trade down to a Paperwhite

1:01:53SPEAKERor would you only trade up to an Oasis?

1:01:56SPEAKER- I think I'm just gonna keep using my phone to be honest.

1:01:58SPEAKER- No, that works too.

1:01:59SPEAKERAnyway, the thing I was gonna say is like, wow,

1:02:02SPEAKERthe current model of Paperwhite is like dramatically

1:02:05SPEAKERbetter looking than the one I have.

1:02:06SPEAKERScreen is way bigger and the whole front

1:02:08SPEAKERof the device is flush, there's no inset for the screen.

1:02:12SPEAKER- Oh yeah, the flush screen, that's why I got the Voyage.

1:02:15SPEAKERI bought it in 2014, in September of 2014.

1:02:17SPEAKER- Okay, maybe it is time for a...

1:02:19SPEAKER- It's getting to the point that the battery

1:02:21SPEAKERonly lasts like, I don't know, like two weeks now

1:02:23SPEAKERinstead of like a month.

1:02:24SPEAKER- Yes, my battery is also not great.

1:02:26SPEAKERI hate that you can't turn the Kindle off.

1:02:28SPEAKER- I don't mind that, it doesn't impact me.

1:02:31SPEAKERIf you turn off wifi, the Kindle lasts for a really long time.

1:02:33SPEAKER- It does, it does, you're right.

1:02:35SPEAKER- Also, it tends to make your library books

1:02:39SPEAKERnot necessarily force themselves to be returned.

1:02:42SPEAKER- Weird, what a weird coincidence.

1:02:44SPEAKER- You leave it in airplane mode all the time,

1:02:46SPEAKERyou kind of have as long as you want

1:02:47SPEAKERto read your library books, it turns out.

1:02:50SPEAKERAnyway, all right.

1:02:51SPEAKER- What do we got?

1:02:52SPEAKERWe're bad at lightning round, it turns out, I'm thinking.

1:02:53SPEAKER- I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1:02:54SPEAKER- No, it's okay.

1:02:55SPEAKER- I tend to go on.

1:02:56SPEAKERAll right, wow, should we, are we going for the trifecta?

1:03:01SPEAKERThe unprecedented third question from the same person?

1:03:05SPEAKER- I mean, look, I feel like we're through,

1:03:07SPEAKERall the rules are off here.

1:03:09SPEAKER- Okay, cake batter.

1:03:11SPEAKER- Again?

1:03:12SPEAKER- The MVP of this Q&A episode.

1:03:14SPEAKER- Okay.

1:03:14SPEAKER- Since the pandemic began, have the levels of human feces

1:03:18SPEAKERon the streets of San Francisco or BART stations

1:03:20SPEAKERgone down at all?

1:03:21SPEAKER- I haven't been in a BART station in two years and change.

1:03:24SPEAKER- Yeah, I haven't either, but I think on the sidewalk,

1:03:27SPEAKERthe answer is yes.

1:03:28SPEAKER- I feel like the escalators are broken.

1:03:30SPEAKERI get the tweets about the escalators being broken

1:03:33SPEAKERjust as much though, which is a feces sign.

1:03:35SPEAKERIt's like poop sign.

1:03:36SPEAKER- Sure, to be fair, I really don't go to the part of town

1:03:39SPEAKERwhere this is a serious problem much anymore

1:03:41SPEAKERnow that I don't work there.

1:03:42SPEAKER- Yeah, like my, every once in a while,

1:03:45SPEAKERI'll get a wild hair on like a Tuesday afternoon,

1:03:47SPEAKERbe like, I'm gonna go drive down San Francisco

1:03:48SPEAKERand see how busy it is, and there's nobody there.

1:03:50SPEAKERSo it's like, meh.

1:03:52SPEAKER- It's depressing, it's rough.

1:03:53SPEAKER- It is, like driving through downtown

1:03:57SPEAKERand seeing everything boarded up still

1:03:58SPEAKERis pretty much a bummer.

1:04:00SPEAKER- Yeah, it makes you feel for all those businesses.

1:04:02SPEAKER- Okay, all right, two more.

1:04:04SPEAKER- Okay.

1:04:05SPEAKER- Simply Bagel, after making a change on your computer,

1:04:08SPEAKERdo you click apply and then okay, or just okay?

1:04:12SPEAKER- Wait, what?

1:04:13SPEAKER- I'm currently working on IT certs,

1:04:14SPEAKERand in all of the example videos,

1:04:16SPEAKERthey show them just clicking okay

1:04:18SPEAKERevery time they change something.

1:04:19SPEAKERI was taught that you always hit apply first.

1:04:21SPEAKER- Okay is apply plus close.

1:04:24SPEAKER- That's exactly it, I'm sorry, Simply Bagel,

1:04:27SPEAKERyou were taught wrong.

1:04:28SPEAKER- Yeah, we don't often say this,

1:04:30SPEAKERbut that person who taught you that was wrong.

1:04:32SPEAKER- This is one of my more irrational pet peeves,

1:04:35SPEAKERclicking apply before clicking okay is completely redundant.

1:04:38SPEAKER- I think it's a bad UX to have an apply and an okay

1:04:41SPEAKERon a screen that you're not gonna wanna keep open.

1:04:44SPEAKER- You're not wrong, like it does not in any way

1:04:46SPEAKERimply what it actually is, but yes, apply,

1:04:50SPEAKERapply is for applying changes and keeping the window open.

1:04:53SPEAKER- You know what I hate?

1:04:53SPEAKER- Hitting okay, apply is implicit in hitting okay,

1:04:56SPEAKERwhich as it closes the window.

1:04:58SPEAKER- I hate a settings pane that auto saves as you change

1:05:03SPEAKERindividual settings without clearly stating

1:05:06SPEAKERthat that save has happened.

1:05:07SPEAKER- Oh yeah, yes.

1:05:09SPEAKER- Or like, I feel like if you need to press save

1:05:13SPEAKERon a settings pane that has multiple pages,

1:05:14SPEAKERlike you have to scroll, like Discord is real bad

1:05:17SPEAKERabout this, you should, the save button

1:05:20SPEAKERshould always be visible, it should be sticky,

1:05:22SPEAKERit should float, yeah.

1:05:23SPEAKER- Absolutely.

1:05:25SPEAKER- Yeah, but I don't miss the apply, the apply button

1:05:28SPEAKERhas almost disappeared.

1:05:30SPEAKER- Has it? - Also.

1:05:31SPEAKERYeah, well, I mean, in Windows 11, with the new,

1:05:34SPEAKERwith settings being the extreme dominant end

1:05:38SPEAKERof the settings page and the control panel stuff

1:05:40SPEAKERbeing almost all the way gone,

1:05:43SPEAKERyou hardly ever see apply anymore.

1:05:44SPEAKER- Oh yeah, yeah, even in Windows 10, that settings dial,

1:05:47SPEAKERlike there are no okay buttons, right?

1:05:49SPEAKERIt's not just the one away, like that whole paradigm

1:05:52SPEAKERof having to confirm your changes is gone.

1:05:54SPEAKER- Yeah, it's just, we're just freewheeling it,

1:05:57SPEAKERhit the button and go, man.

1:05:59SPEAKER- I don't like it, I don't like when things change.

1:06:01SPEAKER- Change is scary.

1:06:03SPEAKER- Authentic sporks, do you think the open and close buttons

1:06:05SPEAKERand elevators actually work or are they just there

1:06:07SPEAKERto make people feel better?

1:06:09SPEAKER- I feel like we could do a whole episode on this, God.

1:06:12SPEAKERI wanna get an X elevator X, okay, so I looked,

1:06:15SPEAKERI Googled this just to see what the situation was

1:06:18SPEAKERon the elevators, the thing that I learned

1:06:22SPEAKERis that they're there for when you have

1:06:24SPEAKERthe elevator service key in and you can bypass floors

1:06:27SPEAKERand close the door immediately and stuff like that.

1:06:29SPEAKER- Interesting.

1:06:31SPEAKER- And then the follow-up thing that I learned to this

1:06:33SPEAKERis that you can buy an elevator key

1:06:34SPEAKERfor pretty much any elevator that would be common

1:06:38SPEAKERin most places for 20 bucks.

1:06:40SPEAKER- Oh, they're not universal, are they?

1:06:41SPEAKER- Mm-hmm.

1:06:42SPEAKER- They're not universal, are they?

1:06:43SPEAKER- They're brand specific.

1:06:44SPEAKER- What, that seems like a terrible idea.

1:06:46SPEAKER- Well, they have to be because the fire department

1:06:48SPEAKERhas to have them. - Of course, of course,

1:06:50SPEAKERemergency situation, yes.

1:06:51SPEAKER- Yeah, but depending on what states you're in,

1:06:54SPEAKERit may be illegal, is my understanding.

1:06:56SPEAKER- Okay.

1:06:57SPEAKER- So, but yeah, if you put the key in,

1:07:01SPEAKERyou can skip all the other floors

1:07:03SPEAKERand press the close button as soon as you get in.

1:07:06SPEAKERDon't get arrested, we didn't tell you to do this.

1:07:09SPEAKER- So they literally are doing nothing in a normal situation.

1:07:12SPEAKER- Yeah, now the other thing is that I lived in a building

1:07:15SPEAKERin San Francisco for a little bit

1:07:16SPEAKERthat had an Otis elevator that if you held down

1:07:19SPEAKERthe door close button and pressed your floor,

1:07:21SPEAKERit would close the door immediately

1:07:22SPEAKERand just go straight to your floor.

1:07:24SPEAKER- Ooh, that's pretty good.

1:07:25SPEAKER- It was only like a three floor building,

1:07:26SPEAKERso it wasn't really that much of a savings,

1:07:30SPEAKERbut yeah, that was a thing you could do.

1:07:32SPEAKER- Is Otis just an elevator company brand?

1:07:33SPEAKER- Yeah, Otis is a brand, elevator brand.

1:07:36SPEAKER- Otis is an amazing name.

1:07:38SPEAKER- Every time we got into that elevator

1:07:40SPEAKERand maybe had a couple of drinks,

1:07:43SPEAKERsomebody would yell, Otis loves us.

1:07:45SPEAKER(laughing)

1:07:47SPEAKER- Otis the elevator is your friend.

1:07:48SPEAKER- Otis was, well, it's like an Animal House line too,

1:07:51SPEAKERbut yeah.

1:07:52SPEAKER- Okay, well, still also, I just--

1:07:53SPEAKER- Anyway.

1:07:54SPEAKER- I like the idea of an elevator named Otis.

1:07:56SPEAKER- Yeah, we talked to Otis, we were like,

1:07:58SPEAKEROtis, take me home, I wanna go home.

1:08:00SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:08:01SPEAKER- I've only, I think that's, aside from dorms,

1:08:03SPEAKERthat's the only time I've ever had an elevator

1:08:05SPEAKERthat was part of my daily routine, I think.

1:08:08SPEAKER- Out in an office?

1:08:09SPEAKER- Well, I mean, offices don't count.

1:08:11SPEAKER- Yeah, okay.

1:08:11SPEAKER- But I mean, but also, no, none of our offices,

1:08:15SPEAKERI mean, I guess there was a future office

1:08:16SPEAKERthat had an elevator that was like, you used it

1:08:19SPEAKERto get into the building, yes.

1:08:21SPEAKERI don't, I use the stairs most often,

1:08:23SPEAKER'cause it was like free exercise.

1:08:24SPEAKER- That's a good policy.

1:08:25SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:08:26SPEAKER- It's a good way to be.

1:08:27SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:08:28SPEAKER- All right, that's it for questions.

1:08:29SPEAKER- You think that's it?

1:08:30SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:08:31SPEAKER- We've turned the cues into the A's again successfully,

1:08:32SPEAKERBrad, or semi-successfully.

1:08:35SPEAKER- Look, we did what we could.

1:08:36SPEAKER- Let us know how we did, survey.content.town is the URL.

1:08:40SPEAKERThe questions are from two months

1:08:42SPEAKERafter we started the podcast, so God only knows what,

1:08:48SPEAKERI think we were, yeah, look, it's an intro,

1:08:51SPEAKERmaybe I should change the survey, I don't know.

1:08:53SPEAKERAnyway, thanks everybody for listening.

1:08:57SPEAKERThis is the time of month when we do,

1:08:59SPEAKERwhen we thank all the patrons.

1:09:01SPEAKER- Yes.

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1:09:42SPEAKER- That's right.

1:09:44SPEAKERI mean, genuinely a Discord all-star, like no joke.

1:09:48SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:09:49SPEAKER- Like actually one of the quirky,

1:09:51SPEAKERquirkiest personas, I guess I would say,

1:09:54SPEAKERhe runs a weather station in a trash can.

1:09:57SPEAKER- Why, who doesn't?

1:09:58SPEAKER- He does.

1:09:59SPEAKERHe's big on using metal trash cans to host,

1:10:01SPEAKERlike he gathers a lot of weather data with mobile,

1:10:05SPEAKERwith Raspberry Pis and other like SBC type devices

1:10:08SPEAKERand stuff, likes to host those in trash cans.

1:10:11SPEAKER- That's fantastic.

1:10:12SPEAKERI didn't know that. - It's fantastic.

1:10:12SPEAKERIt's wonderful.

1:10:13SPEAKERIt's great.

1:10:14SPEAKER- Is that in the Linux channel?

1:10:15SPEAKERIs that if you learn about the making things channel?

1:10:16SPEAKER- Mostly in the network channel.

1:10:18SPEAKER- Okay.

1:10:20SPEAKERMy sorting is different this month,

1:10:21SPEAKERso everybody's going to be in weird orders,

1:10:24SPEAKERbut thank you to Octothorpe,

1:10:26SPEAKERour executive producer here, patrons,

1:10:27SPEAKERincluding Octothorpe Bunny Crimes, Andrew Slosky,

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1:10:37SPEAKERMeasure of a Twinkie, and Measure of a Twinkie.

1:10:40SPEAKERThey were last.

1:10:41SPEAKERAlso, since the end of the month,

1:10:43SPEAKERthank you to our associate producer, to your patrons,

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1:11:02SPEAKERThank you all so much.

1:11:03SPEAKER- Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you.

1:11:05SPEAKER- That'll do it for us this week.

1:11:07SPEAKERI'm gonna go take a nap, I think.

1:11:11SPEAKER- Yeah, wait, I thought you had a stream.

1:11:12SPEAKER- I'm probably gonna stream.

1:11:14SPEAKER(laughing)

1:11:15SPEAKER- Are you going to take a nap while you stream?

1:11:17SPEAKERMight be a little, some people are into that, okay.

1:11:20SPEAKER- There's a lot of stuff happening in Elden Ring right now,

1:11:23SPEAKERand I gotta figure it all out.

1:11:24SPEAKERAnd I accidentally killed Patches yesterday.

1:11:27SPEAKERI'm a little bummed about that.

1:11:29SPEAKER- Oh man, did you drop anything good?

1:11:30SPEAKER- He gave me a ball bearing that let me have access

1:11:32SPEAKERto his shop from someplace else,

1:11:34SPEAKERso I didn't really lose anything.

1:11:35SPEAKER- Hmm.

1:11:36SPEAKER- It was kind of a net zero transaction,

1:11:40SPEAKERbut I didn't think about doing a light murder on him

1:11:43SPEAKERwith a weapon.

1:11:44SPEAKERI used my blood claws, which he didn't survive.

1:11:49SPEAKER- So he probably had it coming.

1:11:51SPEAKER- I don't think he's, he attacked me first.

1:11:54SPEAKEROr at least he made moves like he was gonna.

1:11:56SPEAKERLook, it's complicated, okay?

1:11:58SPEAKER- Yes, I get it.

1:11:59SPEAKER- But we'll see everybody next week.

1:12:00SPEAKERThanks for listening.

1:12:01SPEAKER- Bye.

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