00:00SPEAKER- You ever feel like USB thumb drives
00:02SPEAKERare kind of like cockroaches?
00:03SPEAKERThey just sort of accumulate and hang around
00:05SPEAKERand never go away and they're unkillable.
00:08SPEAKER- I have a drawer in my desk
00:11SPEAKERthat's just full of a bunch of,
00:13SPEAKERI don't want to say useless
00:15SPEAKER'cause they're not exactly useless,
00:16SPEAKERbut they're mostly useless.
00:17SPEAKERThey're like two gigabyte to eight gigabyte.
00:21SPEAKERLike they're not big enough to put a Windows installer on.
00:24SPEAKERThey're not big enough to put like Steam OS on
00:26SPEAKERor Steam, like you can't use them for anything.
00:29SPEAKER- Your Ubuntu maintenance stick.
00:31SPEAKER- No, it doesn't, it's too small for that.
00:34SPEAKER- Even when they're big enough,
00:35SPEAKERI find that form of cheapo
00:37SPEAKERand granted in being the games press,
00:39SPEAKERI ended up with so many no-name USB sticks.
00:43SPEAKERThey're just too unreliable.
00:44SPEAKER- Those little ones with the spinning metal thing,
00:46SPEAKERthose are the ones you always get.
00:47SPEAKER- The ones with the little hinge,
00:48SPEAKERthose things corrupt constantly.
00:50SPEAKERLike I bet like half of the ones I've gotten over the years
00:52SPEAKERwent actual bad, like would not read anymore.
00:56SPEAKERDon't put anything useful on those USB sticks.
00:58SPEAKER- Okay, so I've got like true talking.
01:02SPEAKERThe one that Microsoft gave me for either the Windows 7
01:05SPEAKERor the Windows 8 launch is blue instead of black
01:08SPEAKER'cause those are usually black
01:09SPEAKERand it has Microsoft Windows on it
01:10SPEAKERand it's like eight gigabytes.
01:12SPEAKERAnd for a long, it's a USB three one
01:14SPEAKERand it is unbelievably fast.
01:17SPEAKERAnd it's been my Windows install USB thumb drive
01:20SPEAKERfor like 10 years now.
01:22SPEAKER- Your trusty companion.
01:24SPEAKER- Yeah.
01:25SPEAKER- I've got one shaped like a 1080
01:27SPEAKERthat Nvidia gave me at E3 to put Destiny 2 4K footage on.
01:32SPEAKER- Wow.
01:32SPEAKER- It's 64 gig in USB three, which is nice,
01:35SPEAKERbut it's also a miniature 1080, so it's goddamn huge.
01:39SPEAKERLike it kind of doesn't fit in a lot of port scenarios.
01:42SPEAKER- I have one that a coffee company,
01:45SPEAKERa place that made like this weird steampunk coffee brewer
01:48SPEAKERfor like cafes gave me that's carved out of wood.
01:52SPEAKER- Wow.
01:53SPEAKER- I mean, I think the stuff inside it
01:55SPEAKERis probably circuits and chips like everything else, but.
01:58SPEAKER- The circuits are probably not made out of wood.
02:00SPEAKER- I don't think they're made out of wood.
02:01SPEAKER- If I had to guess.
02:02SPEAKERWhat do you do to get rid of them?
02:04SPEAKERLike I've got this pile that I just wanna,
02:06SPEAKERI've got a ton of e-waste.
02:07SPEAKERI've got a whole bag of e-waste that needs to go.
02:09SPEAKER- Yeah.
02:10SPEAKER- And I was thinking about sitting there
02:11SPEAKERjust going and using disc parts
02:13SPEAKERand just going through and zeroing them all out.
02:16SPEAKER- Huh.
02:17SPEAKER- Or do you think I should maybe eradicate them
02:20SPEAKERin a more mechanical fashion?
02:21SPEAKER- So I've got this drawer, that's where mine go.
02:25SPEAKERI don't know if that's a permanent solution.
02:28SPEAKER- As we have just established,
02:29SPEAKERthey never stop accumulating.
02:30SPEAKER- So, well they do, it turns out,
02:32SPEAKERif you stop working in the games press or the tech press,
02:34SPEAKERthen you stop getting them all the time.
02:36SPEAKERPeople just give you a website now,
02:37SPEAKERyou get a Dropbox link or something.
02:39SPEAKER- I guess that's true.
02:40SPEAKER- The thing I was thinking is I have this desk
02:42SPEAKERwith the kindergarten stuff on it.
02:44SPEAKERIt's like a kindergarten desk,
02:45SPEAKERso there's drawers on each side.
02:47SPEAKERSo the side that's facing me has three drawers,
02:50SPEAKERbut the side that's facing the wall
02:51SPEAKERalso has three more drawers.
02:53SPEAKER- What?
02:53SPEAKER- Yeah, so what I was thinking is I just pull the desk out
02:56SPEAKERfrom the wall enough that I can open the drawer
02:58SPEAKERand then I'm gonna e-waste recycle them
03:01SPEAKERinto one of those drawers.
03:02SPEAKERAnd then push it back up against the wall.
03:04SPEAKERProblem solved.
03:05SPEAKER- It's like the computer equivalent
03:06SPEAKERof throwing them into the Hudson River.
03:08SPEAKERIt's like they will never be seen again.
03:10SPEAKERNo one will know.
03:10SPEAKER- That's way less bad than throwing them.
03:12SPEAKERLike the Hudson River, they're gonna leach heavy metals
03:15SPEAKERout into the water.
03:16SPEAKERIn my drawer, they're not gonna hurt anybody.
03:17SPEAKERThey're just back there accumulating value.
03:20SPEAKER- Those USB sticks are going to sleep with the fishes.
03:24SPEAKER- Well, or the drawers.
03:25SPEAKER(upbeat music)
03:54SPEAKER- Welcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod.
03:57SPEAKERI'm Will.
03:58SPEAKER- I'm Brad.
03:58SPEAKER- Hi Brad, how you doing?
04:00SPEAKER- Hey, what's up?
04:01SPEAKER- Hi.
04:04SPEAKER- Okay, so we have a lot to get through today.
04:05SPEAKERThere's a lot to go on here, but I just got,
04:07SPEAKERI have, I use Teams at my new job.
04:12SPEAKER- Okay.
04:13SPEAKER- Teams is not great, but also it's not as bad
04:16SPEAKERas I was expecting.
04:17SPEAKER- You can say it, it's bad.
04:19SPEAKER- You know what?
04:20SPEAKERThere's a couple of things
04:21SPEAKERthat Teams does really, really well.
04:23SPEAKERAnd then there's also some stuff
04:24SPEAKERthat Teams is an absolute holy living nightmare for.
04:28SPEAKERAnd you know, like the thing that Teams does
04:32SPEAKERis like the thing that Office does, that Outlook did.
04:34SPEAKERRemember when you first got Outlook at work
04:36SPEAKERand all of a sudden everybody started booking meetings
04:38SPEAKERwith everybody else because it was really easy
04:40SPEAKERto book meetings?
04:41SPEAKER- Yeah.
04:42SPEAKER- So the thing that Teams does is it gets rid
04:44SPEAKERof all of the internal communication via email.
04:48SPEAKERAnd it dumps it into like shared chat rooms,
04:50SPEAKERwhich if you set it up right or based on task
04:52SPEAKERcan make a lot of sense.
04:53SPEAKER- Okay.
04:54SPEAKER- In that regard, it's really nice.
04:55SPEAKERAnd like you can drop in and drop out of meetings
04:57SPEAKERpretty easily and stuff like that.
04:58SPEAKERSo like if somebody wants feedback on something,
05:00SPEAKERyou can put together an impromptu group incredibly quickly.
05:03SPEAKER- Okay, I thought Teams was just a Slack competitor.
05:06SPEAKERIt sounds like there's actually a little bit
05:07SPEAKERof a different focus organizationally.
05:10SPEAKER- It's a little bit like, I mean, it has the Slack,
05:12SPEAKERit has the chat component, but then it also has like
05:14SPEAKERa Basecamp or Trello or Jira type.
05:17SPEAKER- Okay.
05:17SPEAKER- There's like a message board component too
05:19SPEAKERfor like storing the findings from the chats
05:22SPEAKERand the calls and it's all in one place.
05:25SPEAKERAnd then it also has your calendar.
05:28SPEAKERAnd the downside is that now when I get a Outlook invite,
05:32SPEAKERit also pops up a Teams invite.
05:34SPEAKERSo I get double notifications.
05:36SPEAKER- So I just want to make sure you know,
05:39SPEAKERyou are not going to miss that meeting.
05:41SPEAKER- Yeah, no, no, it's, so anyway,
05:43SPEAKERI just got a notification and it popped up
05:45SPEAKERright over your face, which was awkward.
05:46SPEAKER- I see, okay.
05:47SPEAKERI thought that was just a pregnant pause after the intro.
05:49SPEAKERYou were just like, oh, let's do a little bit here.
05:51SPEAKER- A hundred percent intentional,
05:52SPEAKERbut you know what else was a hundred percent intentional
05:55SPEAKERthis week?
05:56SPEAKER- What's that?
05:57SPEAKER- When I got a call last Friday morning
05:59SPEAKERfrom one of our friends at Nvidia and they were like,
06:01SPEAKERhey, we're sending you a new video card,
06:02SPEAKERcheck your front porch, you'll be there in like an hour.
06:05SPEAKER- Dude, you can't say that in public.
06:06SPEAKERPeople are gonna, you were gonna be pilloried.
06:09SPEAKERPeople are gonna show up at your house
06:10SPEAKERwith torches and pitchforks.
06:12SPEAKER- I mean.
06:13SPEAKER- Never say you got a new video card.
06:15SPEAKER- Okay, fair.
06:16SPEAKERVideo cards in 2021 and 2020, pretty hard to come by.
06:21SPEAKER- It's a somewhat fraught subject, but you have tested.
06:25SPEAKER- I have tested a 3080 Ti.
06:28SPEAKER- Excuse me?
06:30SPEAKER- A 3080 Ti, an Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti.
06:34SPEAKER- Excuse me.
06:35SPEAKER- 30 Ti.
06:36SPEAKER- A 3080 Ti.
06:38SPEAKER- Call it Ti.
06:39SPEAKER- I understand that was a revelation this week,
06:42SPEAKERperhaps the actual pronunciation is Ti.
06:45SPEAKER- We always called it Ti at maximum PC.
06:47SPEAKER- Yes, everyone I have ever known has always said Ti.
06:51SPEAKER- I think they changed the,
06:52SPEAKERlook, pronunciation doesn't matter.
06:55SPEAKERI mean, I've run the benchmarks.
06:56SPEAKERI haven't run a massive number of benchmarks,
06:58SPEAKERbut I compared it to the 3080.
07:00SPEAKERAnd then, so Nvidia is doing this thing
07:04SPEAKERand it's been a long time since I had
07:06SPEAKERlike multiple generations of video cards in for review.
07:10SPEAKERThey're comparing it to the 2080 Ti,
07:12SPEAKERwhich is actually probably makes more sense
07:13SPEAKERfrom a like consumer perspective
07:16SPEAKERthan comparing it to the now one year old 3080 line of cards.
07:20SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I think that's how they've always done.
07:22SPEAKERI mean, I went back and looked at the 3080 literature
07:25SPEAKERlast October, I remember.
07:27SPEAKER- And they compared it to 2080s.
07:27SPEAKER- And they compared it to the vanilla 2080.
07:29SPEAKERI think that's kind of how they've always done it
07:30SPEAKERis generation over generation.
07:32SPEAKER- I thought they compared it to the super, but maybe not.
07:35SPEAKERBut I mean, the point is,
07:37SPEAKERdon't upgrade your video card every year.
07:39SPEAKERThat would be foolish 'cause they're very expensive.
07:41SPEAKER- I'm gonna guess they're gonna compare it
07:42SPEAKERto whatever makes it appear most favorable.
07:44SPEAKER- Look, that is always, look, the bars,
07:47SPEAKERyou gotta make the bars look long,
07:48SPEAKERno matter how, however you do it.
07:50SPEAKERLike if you zero it out at 60 frames a second,
07:53SPEAKERthey don't do that anymore.
07:55SPEAKER- Data doesn't lie.
07:56SPEAKERIt's just a matter of which data you decide to pick.
07:59SPEAKER- Well, okay, so here's the data on this.
08:02SPEAKERIn the upshot on the card is that they've made the,
08:07SPEAKERthey've given more memory bandwidth,
08:09SPEAKERlike a fairly significant upgrade to memory bandwidth.
08:12SPEAKER- Is it the same kind of memory, do you know?
08:14SPEAKER- Yeah, it's GDDR6 on everything.
08:16SPEAKER- 6X?
08:17SPEAKER- I think the .38 has, maybe I shouldn't split hairs
08:21SPEAKERabout this, we're not maybe in the position to distinguish.
08:24SPEAKER- That is a fair assessment of the situation
08:26SPEAKERat eight o'clock in the morning.
08:30SPEAKERSo I think the X has to do with Esoterica
08:32SPEAKERabout how the memory works.
08:33SPEAKERIt's not, the takeaway on what GDDR6 is,
08:37SPEAKERand we can do an episode about this in the future
08:39SPEAKERif people want, if people are curious,
08:41SPEAKERwe will break down the differences.
08:44SPEAKER- Yeah, graphics memory has always been
08:46SPEAKERkind of a black box to me.
08:47SPEAKERSo actually that, I think there's like throughput
08:50SPEAKERversus latency differences from system memory and stuff.
08:53SPEAKER- Well, yeah, and there's also like sometimes Esoterica
08:55SPEAKERand like how the memory is zeroed out and cleared
08:57SPEAKERand what has to happen and stuff like that.
08:59SPEAKERSo like, it's a weird situation.
09:03SPEAKERThe thing you need to know as a person who is interested
09:06SPEAKERin video cards for your PC is that this has a lot of memory
09:09SPEAKERcompared to a 3080 or a 2080 Ti.
09:12SPEAKERSo on 3080, they did compare to the 2080 Super,
09:15SPEAKERnot the 2080 straight.
09:17SPEAKER- Okay, okay.
09:18SPEAKER- But I think that--
09:20SPEAKER- Sorry, go ahead.
09:20SPEAKER- Well, I was gonna say, I think that they canonically feel
09:22SPEAKERlike the 2080 Super is the 2080,
09:24SPEAKERnot the 2080 Ti or the 2080 Vanilla.
09:27SPEAKER- That makes sense, yeah.
09:30SPEAKER- Okay, so the new card has 12 gigabytes of GDDR6X.
09:34SPEAKER- Okay, that is the same as the 30.
09:35SPEAKER- The old card had 10 gigabytes of GDDR6X,
09:38SPEAKERso it's like two gigs more.
09:39SPEAKER- Not a big difference there.
09:41SPEAKER- Look, realistically, unless you're doing video editing
09:43SPEAKERor compute stuff, 10, 12, eight, probably you're fine.
09:48SPEAKERIf you're running at higher than 4K resolution,
09:51SPEAKERyou maybe need more video memory,
09:52SPEAKERbut it seems like video memory is not the...
09:55SPEAKERI don't remember looking at Task Manager at any point
09:58SPEAKERin the last three years and seeing my video memory
10:00SPEAKERwas near full.
10:01SPEAKER- Is resolution the thing that video memory requirements
10:04SPEAKERscales with most directly,
10:05SPEAKERjust bumping the resolution is what makes you need more?
10:07SPEAKERIt's not like shaders and other post-processing.
10:11SPEAKER- It's assets, too, 'cause the assets live in video memory,
10:14SPEAKERtoo, so all of your meshes and all of your textures
10:16SPEAKERand all that stuff lives in video memory,
10:18SPEAKERbut it comes in and out off the PCI Express bus
10:20SPEAKERat incredibly high speeds.
10:21SPEAKER- And also, the assets are a case
10:23SPEAKERwhere they have to accommodate the whole market,
10:24SPEAKERso they're probably not ever gonna push
10:26SPEAKERthe high-end cards there.
10:27SPEAKER- That's, by the time 10 gigabytes of memory matters,
10:31SPEAKERthe kind of people who are buying 3080 TIs today
10:34SPEAKERare probably gonna have a new card.
10:36SPEAKER- Probably buying a 5080 at that point or something.
10:38SPEAKER- Exactly.
10:40SPEAKEROkay, so there's two main changes.
10:43SPEAKEROne is that they decreased the memory clocks
10:46SPEAKERa little bit from the 3080.
10:48SPEAKER- But widened the bus.
10:50SPEAKER- But widened the bus.
10:51SPEAKERSo the 3080 runs at 9,500 megahertz.
10:53SPEAKERThe, sorry, the GPU boost clock is what went down,
10:56SPEAKERnot the memory clock.
10:57SPEAKERThe memory clock is exactly the same,
10:59SPEAKERbut they widened the bus so it is way faster memory.
11:01SPEAKERSo it went from a 320-bit bus to a 384-bit bus,
11:05SPEAKERwhich means that each cycle,
11:07SPEAKER64 additional bits are transferred,
11:11SPEAKERwhich adds up quickly.
11:13SPEAKERIt ends up being like a, I don't know,
11:15SPEAKERlike a whatever 300 divided by six is boost.
11:20SPEAKERI'm sorry, I didn't open my spreadsheet.
11:22SPEAKERI have to, I don't have enough windows open here right now.
11:24SPEAKER- That's fair.
11:25SPEAKER- The other thing that changes the number of shader cores.
11:27SPEAKERSo like these are the compute cores.
11:29SPEAKERThese are the things that do machine learning acceleration.
11:33SPEAKERThese are the things that help DLSS work in some cases.
11:35SPEAKERAnd these are the things that do shader program,
11:37SPEAKERrun shader programs in games for the most part, so.
11:40SPEAKER- Those cores, the same thing that you'll see
11:41SPEAKERa lot of people refer to as SMs?
11:43SPEAKER- SMs, yes.
11:44SPEAKER- Okay, like that terminology seems to change too much
11:46SPEAKERbetween outlets, I don't like it.
11:48SPEAKERI think-
11:49SPEAKER- It bumps around from Nvidia to AMD.
11:51SPEAKERThey call them different things.
11:53SPEAKERBasically, this is like,
11:54SPEAKERthis is the stuff that lives outside of the raster pipeline
11:57SPEAKERthat does cool math on the video card.
11:59SPEAKER- Right, right, that's where the, yeah,
11:59SPEAKERthat's where the magic happens, you might say.
12:01SPEAKERI think SM, I think means streaming multiprocessor?
12:05SPEAKER- Streaming multiprocessor on Nvidia, I believe, yes.
12:07SPEAKER- Is that what they used to call stream units
12:09SPEAKERway back when?
12:10SPEAKER- No, so you're thinking about a shader cores-
12:12SPEAKER- Shader cores.
12:13SPEAKER- Which was a subset of the stream multiprocessors.
12:16SPEAKER- Shader cores live within SMs or stream, yes.
12:20SPEAKER- Man, I think so, I don't know.
12:22SPEAKERThe video cards have gotten really complicated.
12:24SPEAKER- They really have.
12:25SPEAKERAlso considering there are four to five digits worth
12:27SPEAKERof these now on your average die?
12:30SPEAKER- Well, so the multiprocessors are units
12:33SPEAKERthat have a lot of chunks in them.
12:34SPEAKERAnd so they've gone from 68 to 80 on this.
12:38SPEAKERBut the CUDA core number has exploded
12:41SPEAKERat the same ratio from 8,700 to 10,000.
12:45SPEAKER- It was the CUDA cores I was thinking of
12:47SPEAKERthat are in four to five digit range.
12:48SPEAKER- Yeah, the CUDA cores are their compute cores.
12:50SPEAKERSo that's like their general purpose compute.
12:54SPEAKER- Yes.
12:55SPEAKER- Thought I heard somebody's song in my background.
12:58SPEAKER- It happens.
13:00SPEAKER- Okay, so, and that means that you get an increase
13:02SPEAKERin tensor cores, you get an increase in ray tracing cores,
13:06SPEAKERall this stuff.
13:07SPEAKERSo tensor cores are what's make DLSS work
13:08SPEAKERand all the machine learning acceleration.
13:10SPEAKERRT cores are what make ray tracing work.
13:13SPEAKER- I think, so I wanna say they just basically
13:15SPEAKERbrought that number more or less in line with the 3090, right?
13:19SPEAKERPretty close, same ballpark.
13:21SPEAKERIs it just a cut down 3090 die
13:22SPEAKERor is it like the ones that bend lower?
13:24SPEAKER- So my guess is that this is precisely that.
13:28SPEAKERThis is the 3090 dies that bend low
13:30SPEAKERand they couldn't get up to 3090 speeds
13:33SPEAKERor they're having trouble getting them a memory
13:35SPEAKERto make 3090 boards or the supply for 30,
13:38SPEAKERthe demand for 3090 boards is down.
13:40SPEAKERNow there's a larger conversation about the availability
13:43SPEAKERof video cards in 2021 that we need to have
13:45SPEAKERbecause right now like 1060s are selling
13:48SPEAKERfor three times their MSRP on eBay
13:50SPEAKERbecause video cards are so hard to find.
13:52SPEAKER- Yes.
13:54SPEAKER- Basically the only way to get a video card at retail
13:57SPEAKERis to buy it as part of a PC right now
13:58SPEAKERfrom an OEM that has one.
14:00SPEAKEROr like someone on our Discord did write a custom script
14:04SPEAKERto check inventory every 15 seconds.
14:06SPEAKER- Yeah.
14:06SPEAKER- Until we get lucky.
14:08SPEAKER- I have a couple of friends that went to one of the best
14:10SPEAKERbuys that got an allotment of the 3080 TIs
14:15SPEAKERon Wednesday, I guess, Thursday morning.
14:18SPEAKERAnd they said that all of them were allocated
14:21SPEAKERby seven o'clock the night before
14:23SPEAKERby people who were waiting in line.
14:24SPEAKERSo it's dark times out there.
14:29SPEAKER- It's rough.
14:30SPEAKER- So like in a normal world,
14:32SPEAKERwhat I would say about this video card
14:33SPEAKERis that it splits the difference
14:34SPEAKERbetween the 3080 and the 3090.
14:37SPEAKERAnd probably you're better off with the 3080
14:39SPEAKERthan either of these 'cause it's way,
14:41SPEAKERlike the price bump from $700 to $1,200 is substantial.
14:46SPEAKER- That's yeah, oh yes, go on.
14:49SPEAKERBut I feel like that's the real discussion point here
14:52SPEAKERis where the price landed.
14:53SPEAKER- I mean, I wanna make sure it's a $400 difference.
14:58SPEAKERAnd the, let's see the 3080 MSRP is...
15:06SPEAKER- It was 699 at launch.
15:08SPEAKERI don't know if that's still the case.
15:09SPEAKER- I think it's 699 and the MSRP for this is 1199.
15:13SPEAKERSo $1,200 versus $700.
15:15SPEAKERSo it's a $400 price difference.
15:19SPEAKER- That's a little harsh for what you're getting, I think.
15:21SPEAKER- Well, I mean, I was gonna say the 3090 price
15:28SPEAKERis 1,500, I think?
15:30SPEAKER- Yes, 1,500, yes.
15:31SPEAKER- Or 1,600. - 1,499.
15:34SPEAKER- So it's like we're talking about $300, $200,
15:37SPEAKER$300 difference between the 3080 Ti and the 3090.
15:43SPEAKER- So it's basically practically the same card
15:46SPEAKERwith half the memory.
15:47SPEAKER- Yeah, but the memory doesn't matter for the 3090.
15:49SPEAKER- Oh, I know that, I know.
15:50SPEAKERSo compared to 3090, it's like kind of a reasonable price,
15:53SPEAKERbut compared to the speed bump over the 3080, that's a lot.
15:56SPEAKER- That's a lot, that's a lot.
15:58SPEAKER- Now in the normal world, that's where I would stop.
16:01SPEAKERBut in a world where basically people are gambling every day
16:04SPEAKERon Newegg to try to buy video cards
16:06SPEAKERand the eBay markup on everything is two to three times
16:10SPEAKERfor high-end stuff especially, it's a different situation.
16:15SPEAKERSo like right now, if you have an old card
16:18SPEAKERand you need a new video card, I think this is,
16:20SPEAKERlike it's better to buy this than a 3080.
16:24SPEAKERLike if you can get anything at retail price,
16:26SPEAKERyou should buy what you can get at retail price.
16:28SPEAKER- Yes, buy what you can get.
16:29SPEAKERThat's about the beginning and the end of the story.
16:32SPEAKER- No, okay, so on the supply front,
16:34SPEAKERI asked Nvidia questions about supply.
16:37SPEAKER'Cause you know, the internet seems to feel like miners
16:39SPEAKERare the problem, you know, cryptocurrency miners.
16:42SPEAKERThis is one of the hash rate limited cards.
16:45SPEAKERSo all new 3080s, 3070s, and 3080 Ti's,
16:51SPEAKERit doesn't affect the 3090, are hash rate limited,
16:54SPEAKERwhich means that when they detect you're doing math,
16:56SPEAKERit looks like Ethereum mining,
16:58SPEAKERthen they cut the hash rate in half.
17:02SPEAKERI tested it, it was the first thing I tested,
17:06SPEAKERI was really curious to see how it worked.
17:07SPEAKER- Okay, do you already have
17:09SPEAKERan Ethereum mining pipeline set up?
17:11SPEAKER- I had to learn how to do all that stuff.
17:15SPEAKERI was using Phoenix Miner, which is a popular mining app.
17:19SPEAKERI was getting like 85, 90 mega hashes per second
17:24SPEAKERon the 3080.
17:26SPEAKERWhen I put the 3080 Ti in,
17:28SPEAKERit spikes up immediately to like 100, 105.
17:31SPEAKERAnd then about 30 seconds later, it drops to 50.
17:34SPEAKER- Wow, okay.
17:35SPEAKEROh, that's, huh, I would have thought
17:38SPEAKERit would be limited more than that.
17:39SPEAKER- Well, so you go from like 3080 Ti numbers
17:45SPEAKERto like 2060 numbers.
17:46SPEAKER- Right, I mean, I guess that's good enough.
17:47SPEAKERI guess, as long as you're making it not desirable
17:51SPEAKERto buy the expensive card over the old cards,
17:52SPEAKERyou're probably good.
17:53SPEAKER- Exactly, so the thing to know is that these boards,
17:57SPEAKERall the hash rate limited boards are marked
18:01SPEAKERwhen you buy them.
18:02SPEAKERLike the box makes it clear that you're buying one of those
18:04SPEAKERso that if you are an enthusiast
18:07SPEAKERand you would like to be in the crypto game,
18:12SPEAKERthen you still can buy the cards
18:14SPEAKERthat don't have that marking, basically.
18:15SPEAKER- Assuming you can find one.
18:17SPEAKER- Assuming you can find one.
18:18SPEAKER- So we should take a step back real quick
18:20SPEAKERand mention that it sounds like the vanilla 3070 and 3080
18:23SPEAKERare not coming out of the product line.
18:24SPEAKERThey are gonna keep making those?
18:25SPEAKER- Yeah, so these are the equivalents of the supers.
18:29SPEAKERThese are new cards that are coming in.
18:31SPEAKERI'm sorry, I mean, this is where the Ti
18:33SPEAKERalways lands, apparently, or it has in recent times.
18:36SPEAKERIt's not a replacement for the original.
18:39SPEAKERIt's another skew that fits in the spectrum
18:44SPEAKERof price between $700 and $1,400.
18:48SPEAKER- So that sweet spot of the 3080
18:50SPEAKERfor performance to price is still available.
18:52SPEAKERIt's not like you have to go to the Ti if--
18:55SPEAKER- Yeah, no, yeah.
18:56SPEAKERI think 3080 is a fine card for,
18:58SPEAKERespecially if you're playing it at 1080 or 1440p.
19:01SPEAKERIf you're playing at 4K, the bigger cards,
19:03SPEAKERthe Ti, you're gonna see a difference.
19:06SPEAKER- It's not a huge difference, though,
19:07SPEAKERfrom the numbers I've seen.
19:08SPEAKERI mean, we're talking--
19:10SPEAKER- At 4K, it spikes up a little bit more.
19:12SPEAKERBut yeah, you're looking at less than 10% on most stuff.
19:19SPEAKERThe one exception is Metro Enhanced, which,
19:25SPEAKERbut okay, so there's a couple of weird things.
19:28SPEAKERIf you use DLSS, kind of performance stops mattering
19:32SPEAKERin a weird way, because I can get playable frame rates
19:36SPEAKERat 4K in Metro Enhanced with DLSS on the 3080, no problem.
19:43SPEAKERLike 50, 55, 60 frames a second average,
19:46SPEAKEReven in the benchmark and through what I played.
19:51SPEAKERIn raster stuff, the memory bandwidth helps a ton.
19:54SPEAKERSo I did see a pretty good bump in things like PUBG
19:57SPEAKERand no ray tracing traditional raster pipelines.
20:03SPEAKERSo that was exciting, I guess.
20:05SPEAKERIf you're choosing, if you are in some blessed situation
20:09SPEAKERwhere you can sit and say, okay, I have a 3090,
20:11SPEAKERI have a 3080, I have a 3080 Ti board in my card here.
20:15SPEAKERI got to choose which one to buy.
20:17SPEAKERAnd you play video games.
20:19SPEAKERI think the 3080 Ti is the clear,
20:22SPEAKERlike if the extra 400 bucks,
20:23SPEAKERif you're like 400 bucks, I don't care, let's go.
20:27SPEAKERIt's faster than, it's the fastest video gaming card
20:32SPEAKERthat you can get right now.
20:33SPEAKER- Sure, sure, sure.
20:33SPEAKERI mean, it is kind of a premium for that slight speed bump,
20:36SPEAKERbut in a world where you kind of want the best thing
20:38SPEAKERyou can get, because you might not be able
20:39SPEAKERto get anything else for quite a while.
20:41SPEAKER- Well, yeah, and also like, I wouldn't feel bad
20:46SPEAKERif anybody who needs a video card right now,
20:48SPEAKERif you just buy whatever you can get,
20:49SPEAKERI wouldn't feel bad about it.
20:50SPEAKERYou're not gonna make a mistake here.
20:52SPEAKER6800 XT is a good card too, the AMD card is good too.
20:54SPEAKERSo like there's a lot of options
20:57SPEAKERand I don't think you're gonna make a bad mistake
20:59SPEAKERat this price point.
21:00SPEAKERI didn't get one of the 3070 Ti's out of the box to test,
21:07SPEAKERbut I think they're gonna try to get me one of those
21:09SPEAKERin the next week or two.
21:10SPEAKERSo the other thing is, we talked about supply,
21:14SPEAKERreview supplies are incredibly limited.
21:16SPEAKERThey only handed them out to a handful of people
21:18SPEAKERthis go round.
21:22SPEAKERThey don't feel like the mining,
21:23SPEAKERthey feel like the mining is contributing to the demand,
21:26SPEAKERbut they felt like the quarantine
21:28SPEAKERand everybody being at home
21:30SPEAKERand also everybody having like unexpected bonus income
21:33SPEAKERand forms of stimulus checks if you were already working
21:36SPEAKERhas probably spiked.
21:38SPEAKERThey didn't say that.
21:39SPEAKERI think that the stimulus checks have spiked supply,
21:43SPEAKERI just spiked demand.
21:45SPEAKERIt doesn't seem like this is all mining
21:48SPEAKERand shortages causing this problem.
21:50SPEAKERThey're also seeing really, really, really high demand
21:52SPEAKERcompared to normal is what it sounded like.
21:55SPEAKER- And even on top of stimulus checks,
21:56SPEAKERpeople are just have been stuck at home.
21:58SPEAKERI guess that's changing slowly as we move forward,
22:00SPEAKERbut people have been stuck indoors
22:02SPEAKERwanting to play video games.
22:04SPEAKER- Yeah, you didn't spend,
22:05SPEAKERwhere'd you go on vacation last year, right?
22:06SPEAKERSkyrim?
22:07SPEAKER- By living, yes, by living room.
22:12SPEAKER- Okay, but now we should do the regular episode.
22:14SPEAKER- Yeah, let's talk about something besides video cards.
22:18SPEAKERThe most exciting topic for 8 a.m. in the morning.
22:25SPEAKERI can't.
22:26SPEAKER- Okay.
22:27SPEAKER- Can't ask me to compose music at this hour.
22:29SPEAKER- Do, do, do, do, do, do, do.
22:32SPEAKER- We are-
22:33SPEAKER- We're gonna talk about reinstalling Windows.
22:34SPEAKER- We're gonna do a Windows reinstall-a-palooza,
22:37SPEAKERthat's what I named this Google doc.
22:39SPEAKER- I like a palooza.
22:40SPEAKERI like to, you know, people don't tech palooza on the end.
22:42SPEAKER- Oh.
22:43SPEAKER- Enough anymore.
22:44SPEAKER- You gotta, you gotta find your opportunities.
22:46SPEAKERShoot your palooza shot where you can.
22:49SPEAKER- Shoot, shoot.
22:51SPEAKERI don't think we're allowed to say that probably legally,
22:53SPEAKERbut okay.
22:54SPEAKER- Okay.
22:54SPEAKER- Brad, why don't we reinstall?
22:56SPEAKER- Ah, Windows gets a little janky over time, let's say.
23:00SPEAKERI think we, this came about
23:01SPEAKERbecause we're both long overdue at this point.
23:03SPEAKERI think, I think we were both long overdue
23:05SPEAKERfor Windows reinstalls and neither of us can afford
23:07SPEAKERto actually have the downtime necessary to pull that off.
23:11SPEAKER- Yeah, it doesn't take, like, I'm also bingo on storage.
23:14SPEAKERLike all my, I'm full everywhere right now.
23:17SPEAKERI have, I need to buy a hard drive is the takeaway.
23:20SPEAKER- Even your NAS?
23:22SPEAKER- My NAS is pretty full, dude.
23:23SPEAKER- Yikes.
23:24SPEAKER- Yeah, well.
23:25SPEAKER- Oh yeah, rough times over there.
23:26SPEAKER- It's, look, the buckets,
23:28SPEAKERthe buckets are sloshing when you walk.
23:30SPEAKER- Hey, guess what?
23:30SPEAKERI have bad news for you about hard drive availability
23:32SPEAKERas well.
23:33SPEAKER- It's easy to find and they're cheap, right?
23:35SPEAKER- Uh huh.
23:36SPEAKER- That's why my hard drives are full, Brad.
23:38SPEAKER- Who fucking, who thought it was a good idea
23:39SPEAKERto come up with a cryptocurrency
23:40SPEAKERthat relies on storage space?
23:42SPEAKER- Oh, Christ, really?
23:44SPEAKER- Oh, you didn't know about this?
23:44SPEAKER- I heard about it, but I didn't think it was a real thing.
23:46SPEAKER- Oh, it's hard drive prices spiked through the roof
23:49SPEAKERa couple of weeks ago
23:49SPEAKERand I don't know that they've come back down.
23:51SPEAKER- Great.
23:52SPEAKER- Yeah.
23:53SPEAKERAnyway, go on.
23:54SPEAKER- Maybe I'll just use cloud storage.
23:56SPEAKERThe, okay, so in the old days,
23:59SPEAKERlike in Windows 95, Windows 98,
24:01SPEAKERI remember installing like at the moment of any trouble,
24:04SPEAKERI would just be like, well, fuck it, gotta reinstall.
24:07SPEAKER- So I'm gonna take half the day here and just, you know.
24:10SPEAKER- Oh God, it took so long.
24:11SPEAKER- At least it was on CD at that point.
24:12SPEAKERI had started to say load floppy disks in,
24:14SPEAKERbut I never had, I think Windows 3.1
24:16SPEAKERwas my last floppy disk OS.
24:18SPEAKER- I think my Windows 95 was floppy disk maybe.
24:20SPEAKER- Really?
24:21SPEAKER- Yeah, until I got OSR2 on a disk.
24:23SPEAKER- No kidding.
24:24SPEAKER- I don't remember.
24:25SPEAKERI might be mistaken.
24:28SPEAKER- It was, it took on a ritualistic quality for me.
24:31SPEAKERIt was just like about every six months,
24:33SPEAKERsomething is gonna break badly enough
24:34SPEAKERthat it's probably time.
24:36SPEAKER- Yeah, like you would install a new video card driver,
24:38SPEAKERyour Creative Lab sound card driver
24:41SPEAKERwould jack up the replacement upgrade in place
24:44SPEAKERand you'd have to reinstall everything.
24:47SPEAKERIt's less of an issue these days.
24:49SPEAKERI also kind of wonder if the problem back then
24:53SPEAKERwas data corruption.
24:54SPEAKER'Cause we were downloading stuff over modems,
24:56SPEAKERwhich had kind of a little bit dangerous error correction
25:00SPEAKERoften, and maybe the hardware
25:03SPEAKERwas a little bit less reliable back then
25:04SPEAKERand that is now the software was less fault tolerant.
25:08SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, honestly, I remember just getting crashy
25:10SPEAKERbeing the biggest reason that I would reinstall,
25:12SPEAKERlike things would just, you know,
25:13SPEAKERlike the blue screen was a lot more common back then.
25:16SPEAKER- Yeah, you saw a lot of blue screens
25:17SPEAKERin Windows 95 and 98 and ME.
25:19SPEAKER- Yes.
25:21SPEAKER- So like I find in the Windows 7 and forward era,
25:27SPEAKERI reinstall a lot less.
25:28SPEAKERLike my Windows 7 install turned into a Windows 8 install,
25:32SPEAKERwhich turned into a Windows 10 install,
25:34SPEAKERwhich I think I just blew away last two years ago now.
25:36SPEAKER- That's just crazy.
25:38SPEAKER- Well, I mean, that's like seven years.
25:39SPEAKER- I mean, it's possible.
25:41SPEAKERWow, are you serious?
25:42SPEAKER- Probably.
25:43SPEAKER- Dude, I mean, we probably covered some of the territory
25:45SPEAKERwhen we ranked the Windowses,
25:46SPEAKERbut I think I'm coming up on two years on this install,
25:51SPEAKERI think, and that's about my limit.
25:53SPEAKERThat's about my tolerance for an install.
25:55SPEAKER- Brad, it's funny you say, you think,
25:58SPEAKERif you would like to know exactly.
26:00SPEAKER- I would.
26:01SPEAKER- How old your Windows install is.
26:04SPEAKER- I was looking for that exact piece of information recently.
26:07SPEAKER- Well, open up PowerShell.
26:09SPEAKER- Okay, can do.
26:10SPEAKER- And type in this thing
26:13SPEAKERthat I'm about to dump into your chat.
26:17SPEAKER- Okay.
26:19SPEAKER- Fuck, somebody is doing.
26:21SPEAKER- Oh, I hear it.
26:22SPEAKER- Oh, we gotta stop.
26:23SPEAKER- Do we?
26:24SPEAKER- I can't have a leaf blower in the background.
26:27SPEAKER- Yeah, I even hear it over Jitsi, so.
26:29SPEAKER- Yeah, it's real bad, holy crap.
26:32SPEAKER(upbeat music)
26:38SPEAKERAnd we're back.
26:40SPEAKER- We're back?
26:41SPEAKER- We're back.
26:42SPEAKER- We're back.
26:43SPEAKER- You know what happened?
26:44SPEAKER- What happened?
26:45SPEAKER- I knew, 'cause there's been things posted on my door
26:47SPEAKERfor all week, I just didn't realize it was Friday.
26:50SPEAKERIt's Suer lateral replacement day in my neighborhood,
26:53SPEAKERso everybody's coming in and they're digging up the street
26:56SPEAKER'cause they're about to repave it
26:57SPEAKERand they're digging up the street
26:58SPEAKERand they're putting new pipes in for the sewer laterals.
27:01SPEAKER- Suer lateral replacement Friday,
27:03SPEAKERsounds like a wild weekend waiting to happen.
27:05SPEAKER- Look, man, this is just one of the,
27:07SPEAKERanother fabulous part of home ownership
27:09SPEAKERis that sometimes you're sitting at your front door
27:11SPEAKERand you get a piece of mail and you check your mail
27:13SPEAKERand you're like, "Oh, this seems like a scam.
27:15SPEAKER"I'm gonna throw it in your trash."
27:16SPEAKERAnd then all of your neighbors are like,
27:17SPEAKER"Hey, you're doing the sewer lateral replacement?"
27:19SPEAKERAnd you're like, "Wait, what?
27:21SPEAKER"That looked like a scam."
27:23SPEAKERYou're like, "No, you gotta do that every 40 years.
27:26SPEAKER"You gotta pay $6,000 to somebody
27:28SPEAKER"to trench your sewer lateral out from under the ground
27:32SPEAKER"and reconnect it to the main sewer lines
27:34SPEAKER"'cause it's made of cast iron and it collapses,"
27:37SPEAKERor something, I don't know.
27:38SPEAKER- Hey, don't let just anybody trench your sewer lateral, okay.
27:41SPEAKER- Look, there's roots, it's old.
27:44SPEAKERIt could be made of clay, I don't know, it's a lot.
27:47SPEAKERBut we were talking, speaking of trenching things out.
27:50SPEAKER- You're right, I was gonna ask who the hell runs
27:53SPEAKERa concrete saw at 8.30 in the morning,
27:54SPEAKERbut let's just move on. - Fucking monsters is who.
27:57SPEAKER- Don't they know people are trying
27:58SPEAKERto record podcasts in here?
27:59SPEAKER- Decent people, decent hardworking Americans
28:02SPEAKERare recording podcasts. - That's right.
28:04SPEAKER- And your concrete,
28:05SPEAKERthey were doing a jackhammer a little bit,
28:06SPEAKERso hopefully this will go well.
28:08SPEAKER- Okay, fingers crossed, we have to talk fast.
28:10SPEAKERAll right, you had a pretty exciting
28:14SPEAKERlittle PowerShell script for me.
28:15SPEAKER- I have a PowerShell script
28:16SPEAKERthat will let you open PowerShell,
28:18SPEAKERyou type in a really complicated series of commands.
28:21SPEAKER- Yes, oh yes, my favorite, get child item.
28:24SPEAKERI'm well acquainted with it.
28:26SPEAKER- Everybody loves child item,
28:27SPEAKERit lets you dig deep into the registry
28:28SPEAKERand pull out the key bits.
28:30SPEAKER- Or it's friendly short abbreviation GCI.
28:34SPEAKER- GCI, I love GCI.
28:35SPEAKERSo you can type this in and it will tell you
28:38SPEAKERall the updates that you've installed to Windows,
28:41SPEAKERmajor updates, like the half year updates,
28:43SPEAKERand the initial install date for your first install
28:46SPEAKERof this version of Windows.
28:47SPEAKER- Oh, I didn't get that, I just ran it.
28:48SPEAKERIt did tell me when I installed,
28:50SPEAKERso that's the important thing here.
28:52SPEAKERSeptember 20th, 2019, so I'm not even two years in
28:57SPEAKERon this install yet and it's time for it to go.
29:00SPEAKER- I'm June 2, 2019.
29:02SPEAKER- Okay.
29:03SPEAKER- I thought, I forgot, I bought a new SSD two years ago,
29:07SPEAKERan M2 one, and I must've done a clean install
29:11SPEAKERaround that time because that's the time,
29:13SPEAKERlike, Brad, I need a two terabyte SSD as my main drive.
29:18SPEAKER- Do you, really?
29:19SPEAKERHow big is this, what do you have?
29:21SPEAKER- A one terabyte SSD.
29:22SPEAKER- Dude, what, that's not enough?
29:23SPEAKERI have a 512 gigabyte and that seems fine.
29:26SPEAKER- I capture a lot of video.
29:28SPEAKER- That's fair, that's what you have a NAS for.
29:31SPEAKER- The NAS is full of the hard drives,
29:32SPEAKERthey're really fricking expensive, man.
29:34SPEAKER- I cannot help you on that front.
29:35SPEAKER- Yeah.
29:36SPEAKER- What is subject for deletion on your NAS?
29:38SPEAKERThere's gotta be something that you don't need.
29:39SPEAKER- Well, I got rid of the Justice League.
29:41SPEAKER- Okay.
29:42SPEAKER- That was an easy cut.
29:43SPEAKER- Probably a good call.
29:44SPEAKER- I have replaced all of the 4K versions of movies
29:47SPEAKERwith 1080p versions of movies.
29:49SPEAKER- It's fine.
29:50SPEAKER- Since I don't actually own a 4K TV
29:52SPEAKERand I was just ripping them for fun.
29:54SPEAKER- Hey, it's probably okay to downsize a little bit.
29:58SPEAKER- The rest of it is like backups and photos
30:00SPEAKERand like, I mean, look, there are,
30:03SPEAKERI have a lot of Blu-rays and I've ripped a lot of Blu-rays
30:07SPEAKERand I probably could have like,
30:09SPEAKERthe next thing to do is to run them
30:11SPEAKERthrough a compression algorithm mechanism
30:15SPEAKERthat moves them from H.264 to H.265 at a lower bit rate.
30:18SPEAKER- Yes.
30:19SPEAKER- I don't have the time or energy
30:21SPEAKERto figure that out right now.
30:22SPEAKERSo this is a classic example of a problem
30:25SPEAKERthat I would normally throw money at.
30:28SPEAKERAnd I'm not paying what hard drives cost right now
30:30SPEAKERto throw money at it.
30:31SPEAKER- That's a wise choice.
30:32SPEAKER- Yeah.
30:33SPEAKER- Okay, so we're both running installs
30:36SPEAKERabout two years old here, let's say.
30:38SPEAKER- Yeah.
30:40SPEAKERYeah, so two years old, like what makes you give up
30:43SPEAKERand like be like, hey yo, I'm gonna reinstall Windows
30:46SPEAKERand take at least one day of major inconvenience
30:50SPEAKERand then like a couple of weeks of things
30:52SPEAKERbeing not quite right before you at least two weeks
30:55SPEAKERat this point.
30:56SPEAKER- It takes a lot for me because A,
30:58SPEAKERI feel like modern Windows is like pretty resilient, right?
31:00SPEAKERLike it doesn't get crufty quite like it used to
31:04SPEAKERback in the day.
31:05SPEAKER- Well, it used to, the thing that happens now
31:08SPEAKERisn't that, like it used to be that the machine
31:11SPEAKERwould get slow or things would start crashing
31:13SPEAKERor like apps would be weird, like File Explorer
31:16SPEAKERwould take a really long time to load or something.
31:17SPEAKER- That is literally what got me to reinstall last time
31:20SPEAKERwas that exact problem was, and I traced it down to,
31:23SPEAKERI would watch task manager every time I refreshed the desktop
31:26SPEAKERor opened a File Explorer window.
31:28SPEAKERIt was some antivirus process.
31:29SPEAKERIt was some process related to Windows Defender would pop.
31:33SPEAKER- I'm having that right now.
31:34SPEAKER- And it would take like 20 seconds
31:35SPEAKERto enumerate a File Explorer window
31:37SPEAKERbecause, and it would spike the CPU at 100%.
31:39SPEAKERLike it would do some intensive antivirus scan
31:42SPEAKERevery time I did anything with browsing files
31:44SPEAKERand I could not solve it to save my life.
31:47SPEAKERSo it's just formatted.
31:48SPEAKER- So new boot drive always is good for me.
31:52SPEAKERLike if I get a new SSD or something,
31:53SPEAKERthen I'll always just start from scratch
31:56SPEAKERand then copy the old SS, like put the new SSD
32:00SPEAKERand install Windows and then copy the stuff
32:02SPEAKERoff of the C drive onto the new C drive
32:05SPEAKERand then pull the old SSD out.
32:07SPEAKER- Even on the exact same configuration.
32:10SPEAKERLike just, if you're just swapping the drive,
32:11SPEAKERyou're not the type to just image the old drive
32:13SPEAKERand slap it on the new drive.
32:14SPEAKER- So I don't, this is a, here's a technology confession.
32:18SPEAKERUEFI stuff happened after I stopped paying attention to that,
32:22SPEAKERhow Windows works really closely.
32:24SPEAKERSo like with UEFI drives and booting off NVME
32:29SPEAKERand like you have to boot off of NVME,
32:32SPEAKERyou have to boot using an UEFI install
32:35SPEAKERto get like full advantage of your NVME drives, right?
32:38SPEAKER- Yeah.
32:39SPEAKER- When that started, I got in a real place
32:42SPEAKERwhere like you put the USB thumb drive in
32:44SPEAKERand then some magic happens and then it boots fast.
32:46SPEAKER- Yeah.
32:47SPEAKER- And I never took the time to figure out
32:48SPEAKERhow to image that stuff over 'cause there's like keys
32:51SPEAKERand there's all sorts of things that are involved.
32:54SPEAKER- Yes.
32:55SPEAKER- And the one time I tried to do it,
32:57SPEAKERthe tools weren't ready for it yet
32:58SPEAKERand it didn't work well at all.
33:01SPEAKER- Yeah, I want to say this is related to UEFI,
33:03SPEAKERthe transition from MBR master boot record to GPT,
33:08SPEAKERthe GUID partition table.
33:10SPEAKER- GPT predates UEFI, but you can't do MBR with UEFI at all.
33:14SPEAKER- Right, right.
33:14SPEAKER- You shouldn't have been doing MBR
33:16SPEAKERfor like 10 years at this point.
33:17SPEAKER- Right, that's what it is.
33:18SPEAKERBut yes, like figuring out the tool chain
33:20SPEAKERwith all that stuff is a little bit of a rabbit hole.
33:23SPEAKERI also have not taken the time
33:25SPEAKERto fully understand all that stuff.
33:27SPEAKER- And the other thing is with UEFI,
33:29SPEAKERthere's an integration with the BIOS
33:30SPEAKERwhere with the UEFI, the boot code on the machine.
33:34SPEAKER- Right, like it's not even called a BIOS anymore, right?
33:36SPEAKERLike we're just-
33:37SPEAKER- Everybody calls it a BIOS
33:38SPEAKER'cause we've always called it a BIOS.
33:39SPEAKER- Right, it's just a legacy term at this point.
33:41SPEAKER- Yeah, so like my concern is I will copy something over.
33:48SPEAKERIt'll work great for a little while.
33:49SPEAKERI'll get to the point that I can't revert easily.
33:53SPEAKERAnd then all of a sudden I realized
33:54SPEAKERI've made some sort of tragic fuck up
33:55SPEAKERthat's gonna require me to wipe the drive
33:57SPEAKERand reinstall again.
33:58SPEAKERBut then I won't have the benefit
34:00SPEAKERof having the second drive around
34:01SPEAKERor I'll use it for something else by that point or whatever.
34:04SPEAKERAnd it'll be much, much more of a pain in the ass
34:06SPEAKERto do the transition, so.
34:08SPEAKER- Yeah, I am with you.
34:09SPEAKER- Yeah, if I'm gonna do a clean install, I do clean install.
34:14SPEAKERAnxiety also makes me do clean install sometimes.
34:18SPEAKERLike if I get to a point,
34:19SPEAKERlike if I do a driver upgrade or something
34:21SPEAKERand the driver upgrade fails a few times for no reason,
34:24SPEAKERI'll be like.
34:26SPEAKER(sighs)
34:27SPEAKER- Dude, I would give anything to be one of those people
34:29SPEAKERwho are just like, you know, if it's working, who cares?
34:31SPEAKERIt's fine, like it's probably fine.
34:33SPEAKERIf it works, it's fine, but no.
34:35SPEAKEREven if it works, I still don't think it's fine.
34:37SPEAKER- So my last Windows install, the time on it,
34:41SPEAKERit was July 2nd, 2019, but it was at 2 a.m.
34:46SPEAKERAnd I can almost guarantee you
34:48SPEAKERthat that sequence of events was
34:50SPEAKERsomething went a little bit wrong.
34:52SPEAKERI started working on fixing it.
34:54SPEAKERI realized it wasn't gonna be an easy fix.
34:56SPEAKERI worked on it a little bit more.
34:58SPEAKERI did some uninstalls.
35:00SPEAKERI edited some registry bullshit.
35:01SPEAKERI deleted some files manually and then I was like,
35:03SPEAKER"Fuck it, I'm burning the whole thing down."
35:05SPEAKER- You've really gotta know when to cut your losses.
35:07SPEAKER- Yeah, like if it's, I guarantee you
35:12SPEAKERthat there was a moment at 10 p.m. that night
35:14SPEAKERthat I could have just cut my losses
35:15SPEAKERand walked away and been fine.
35:17SPEAKERBut no, 2 a.m. completed the install.
35:20SPEAKER- You got in too deep.
35:24SPEAKER- What else?
35:27SPEAKERYeah, we'll post the PowerShell,
35:28SPEAKERthe link to the PowerShell article.
35:29SPEAKERIt's on nextofwindows.com.
35:31SPEAKERIt was a really interesting article about a PowerShell
35:33SPEAKERand pulling stuff from the registry.
35:35SPEAKERI don't use PowerShell enough, I think.
35:37SPEAKER- It's pretty neat.
35:38SPEAKERIt does some cool stuff.
35:39SPEAKERYou can pipe, I mean, are you familiar with Unix pipes?
35:41SPEAKER- Yeah, I love the pipe, the vertical column.
35:44SPEAKER- Pipe the, yeah, the texts.
35:45SPEAKERLike an out, just a raw kind of text stream
35:48SPEAKERfrom one program to another.
35:50SPEAKER- Yeah.
35:50SPEAKER- PowerShell can pipe like structured data objects
35:53SPEAKERin the same way.
35:54SPEAKER- Oh, wow.
35:55SPEAKER- Like file system objects, you can like attributes of files
35:58SPEAKERor like you said, registry values and stuff like that.
36:00SPEAKERLike they exist in some kind of structured format.
36:02SPEAKERSo you can send those back and forth
36:04SPEAKERbetween different processes.
36:06SPEAKERIt's cool.
36:06SPEAKER- What does that mean?
36:07SPEAKER- It's a very abstract thing.
36:09SPEAKERAnd you're not just sending like bulk text, right?
36:12SPEAKERIt's like, you have to kind of keep in your head
36:13SPEAKERwhat types of data you're sending around.
36:15SPEAKER- Is it like JSON or XML or something like that?
36:16SPEAKEROr is it less abstract?
36:19SPEAKER- Like you can query the,
36:20SPEAKERI definitely got limited experience with it.
36:21SPEAKERLike you can query the objects to see what they are.
36:23SPEAKERI don't know how they're being stored internally, but.
36:26SPEAKER- Oh, how?
36:26SPEAKER- Like you can query, like if you pipe like a file,
36:29SPEAKERlike a directory, like a files,
36:31SPEAKERyou can query like just the creation time on those files
36:34SPEAKERor just the size or just the parent directory,
36:36SPEAKERyou know, stuff like that.
36:36SPEAKERIt's pretty neat.
36:38SPEAKER- So you can pipe.
36:40SPEAKERI wonder if you can pipe a list of,
36:42SPEAKERlike a list of file names in a flat text file
36:49SPEAKERand replace all the files in the directory
36:51SPEAKERwith those file names.
36:53SPEAKERLike rename the files in a batch way
36:55SPEAKERusing a flat text file that was edited in a text editor.
36:58SPEAKER- You should be able to absolutely do that, yeah.
37:00SPEAKER- That's fascinating.
37:01SPEAKER- You can do all kinds of stuff.
37:02SPEAKERI have, I have downloaded basically like, you know,
37:08SPEAKERSteam sells a lot of soundtracks these days.
37:09SPEAKER- Yeah, love them.
37:10SPEAKER- Like a lot of times they'll tag the MP3s properly,
37:13SPEAKERbut not the lossless version.
37:14SPEAKERLike it'll just be a bunch of waves with no tagging.
37:18SPEAKER- Okay.
37:19SPEAKER- You know, no metadata or whatever.
37:20SPEAKERLike I've used PowerShell to loop through all the MP3s
37:23SPEAKERand pull all the metadata from those
37:24SPEAKERand compress the waves into flack
37:26SPEAKERand map that metadata per song.
37:29SPEAKER- Huh.
37:30SPEAKER- All in one, just one batch process is fun.
37:33SPEAKERI have curious, interesting ideas of what's fun, but.
37:38SPEAKER- Look, I think it's weird that Microsoft
37:40SPEAKERhas three different shells in Windows now.
37:43SPEAKER'Cause there's like the normal CMD.
37:45SPEAKER- Yes.
37:46SPEAKER- The old school one.
37:47SPEAKER- Right.
37:48SPEAKER- And then there's this PowerShell
37:49SPEAKERand then there's like the Linux thing.
37:53SPEAKER- Yeah, also WSL2, like they push the existence
37:56SPEAKERof a bash shell in Windows pretty hard these days,
37:59SPEAKERwhich they should, you know, like it's a good way
38:00SPEAKERto bridge development with that world.
38:02SPEAKER- Well, that's also like the bash shell in OS X
38:05SPEAKERis why OS X development for web happened in a lot of ways.
38:09SPEAKER- Absolutely, like they are very late
38:10SPEAKERto the party on that stuff.
38:11SPEAKERI have seen, I have actually seen Windows engineers
38:13SPEAKERon Twitter in the last year or two
38:15SPEAKERtalking all kinds of shit about CMT.
38:17SPEAKERLike they flat out were like, yeah, we've,
38:19SPEAKERwe had to make that for backwards compatibility
38:21SPEAKERwith old batch files.
38:22SPEAKERLike nobody should be using CMD.exe at this point.
38:26SPEAKER- I use CMD.exe all the time.
38:28SPEAKERAnd yet it hangs on, so do I.
38:30SPEAKER- I like it.
38:32SPEAKEROkay, anyway, so, okay, gotchas.
38:36SPEAKERWe talked about the NVMe UEFI thing.
38:39SPEAKERThe UEFI bit doesn't matter really in my experience
38:41SPEAKERif you're not on an NVMe drive.
38:43SPEAKERThe SATA 6G drives aren't fast enough to make a difference.
38:47SPEAKERSo if you're using a SATA cable
38:48SPEAKERto plug in your boot hard drive, your C drive,
38:51SPEAKERand this only matters for C drives,
38:53SPEAKERthen doing a UEFI install is going to give you
38:55SPEAKERlike that iPad-like, it's not really iPad-like,
38:58SPEAKERbut you'll get a much faster boot time
39:00SPEAKERwith an NVMe drive on a UEFI install
39:03SPEAKERthan you will with anything else on Windows.
39:07SPEAKERYou can tell if you have a drive that works with that,
39:10SPEAKERyou can look in the BIOS boot panel.
39:11SPEAKERAnd if it's working right, when you go to the boot list,
39:14SPEAKERit'll have like, depending on your motherboard,
39:17SPEAKERit'll say like UEFI Windows system image
39:19SPEAKERor something like that as your primary boot device.
39:21SPEAKERAnd that's what you want to boot off of.
39:22SPEAKER- Right.
39:24SPEAKERIt only works with 64-bit Windows,
39:25SPEAKERwhich I assume that anybody listening to this podcast
39:28SPEAKERis not running 32-bit Windows
39:29SPEAKERunless they have some screwball $99 PC
39:32SPEAKERor something like that.
39:33SPEAKER- Right, can you even buy a 32-bit system in this day and age?
39:36SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, a lot of like the low-end Atom stuff.
39:39SPEAKER- Oh, really?
39:40SPEAKER- Like it would probably be,
39:42SPEAKERI don't know what current Atom is,
39:43SPEAKERbut I know that Atom as recently as a couple of years ago
39:45SPEAKERis 32-bit stuff.
39:46SPEAKER- Oh, wow, I would not have thought that.
39:49SPEAKER- And it's like, this was a real problem
39:53SPEAKERin the Windows 8 timeframe,
39:54SPEAKERbut they've, over the last six,
39:56SPEAKERhowever many years of Windows 10 we've had,
39:59SPEAKERthis has kind of worked itself out.
40:00SPEAKERLike this is a much,
40:01SPEAKERit used to be that you had to have a whole sequence
40:03SPEAKERof events set up right to make the creation tool,
40:08SPEAKERto use the media creation tool,
40:09SPEAKERand you had to have the right kind of USB drive.
40:11SPEAKERIf it didn't support certain stuff,
40:13SPEAKERit wasn't a certain size, whatever, it wouldn't work.
40:15SPEAKERNow you plug it in and it's like, it just, it works.
40:18SPEAKERAnd I believe it even throws appropriate errors
40:21SPEAKERif it's not going to work.
40:22SPEAKERSo like we said before,
40:24SPEAKERyou can't take your wooden coffee maker USB thumb drive
40:28SPEAKERto do this 'cause it's probably not big enough,
40:30SPEAKERbut any eight gig thumb drive works
40:32SPEAKERfor this more or less now.
40:33SPEAKER- You know what, nice USB sticks pretty cheap these days.
40:37SPEAKER- You know what?
40:37SPEAKERI bought a whole bunch of those little tiny ones
40:40SPEAKERthat are just like a nub that stick out.
40:42SPEAKER- Yes, I've got like half a dozen of those things,
40:44SPEAKERlike the little Samsung fits.
40:45SPEAKER- Uh-huh, I fucking hate 'em.
40:47SPEAKER- Why?
40:48SPEAKER- I can never find them 'cause they're so small,
40:50SPEAKERthey get lost immediately.
40:51SPEAKER- It's like the size of your thumbnail or smaller.
40:54SPEAKER- It's basically like a port with a little tiny thing
40:57SPEAKERthat sticks out about a 16th of an inch.
40:59SPEAKERYou can just barely grab, anyway, that's it.
41:03SPEAKERLet's see, the other thing that people do,
41:06SPEAKERwe used to do a lot of how to reinstall windows
41:08SPEAKERand like freshen your windows install time and maximum PC.
41:12SPEAKERThe other thing people do is they accidentally format
41:14SPEAKERthe wrong drive when they're setting up windows.
41:16SPEAKERThe easy way to avoid doing that is to just,
41:20SPEAKERlike only plug in the drive you wanna put windows on
41:23SPEAKERduring the install process.
41:25SPEAKERIt's a little bit more of a hassle with NVMe drives
41:27SPEAKERand M2 drives that often the slots for those
41:29SPEAKERlive underneath your video card or something.
41:32SPEAKERSo, especially if you're moving from one drive
41:38SPEAKERto another drive that's a similar size,
41:39SPEAKERlike if you're moving from a SATA SSD to an NVMe SSD
41:42SPEAKERand they're both 512 gigs, for the love of God,
41:47SPEAKERjust unplug that SATA SSD before you install windows
41:50SPEAKERbefore you make a tragic mistake.
41:51SPEAKER- Those drive identifiers in the installer
41:53SPEAKERare not the most explicit.
41:55SPEAKER- Yeah, no, you're usually like, okay, this one's 480 gig,
41:59SPEAKERnot 480 gigabytes and this one's 492 gigabytes.
42:03SPEAKERWhat's, which one is it, both Samsung?
42:07SPEAKER- What I do, I assume just about any board
42:09SPEAKERcould do this at this point.
42:10SPEAKERI just go in and disable like the individual SATA ports
42:13SPEAKERin the BIOS rather than taking the computer parts,
42:15SPEAKERphysically unplug stuff.
42:17SPEAKER- That works if you're doing SATA.
42:18SPEAKERI don't know that you can turn off NVMe stuff
42:21SPEAKERin the BIOS usually.
42:22SPEAKER- You might be right.
42:23SPEAKER- If you have multiple drives, I can't,
42:24SPEAKERI know you can't if you have PCI express drives,
42:27SPEAKERbut I don't know if you have,
42:29SPEAKERI mean, if you have like the early NVMe drives
42:32SPEAKERthat were PCI express, full slot PCI express drives,
42:35SPEAKERI know you couldn't turn off in the BIOS, in most BIOSes,
42:38SPEAKERas always, like it's gonna vary based on manufacturer
42:40SPEAKERand probably even board model,
42:42SPEAKERbut I don't know that you can,
42:44SPEAKERI guess you could probably turn off M2 drives,
42:46SPEAKERbut maybe, I don't know.
42:48SPEAKERJust, you might have to pop them out.
42:50SPEAKERYou're absolutely right.
42:51SPEAKERYou shouldn't have to unplug the SATA drives.
42:53SPEAKERUnless, unless you're in the BIOS
42:55SPEAKERand you can't tell which one is which
42:56SPEAKER'cause the BIOS modifiers are thin.
42:58SPEAKER- Yes, that's fair, that is also fair.
43:00SPEAKERSo I disable all drives except the target install drive,
43:03SPEAKERbut the reason I do it now is,
43:04SPEAKERhave you ever noticed that the installer
43:07SPEAKERis incredibly haphazard about spreading weird
43:09SPEAKERrecovery partitions around all over the place?
43:11SPEAKER- Yep, it does the first one in order,
43:14SPEAKERis where all that, like it,
43:16SPEAKERthe Windows installer makes like eight partitions
43:17SPEAKERor something now, it's ridiculous.
43:19SPEAKER- And if you have like,
43:20SPEAKERI've had like three drives plugged in before
43:22SPEAKERand like, you know, half or more of those partitions
43:25SPEAKERended up on the two other drives besides the CE drive,
43:28SPEAKERthe system drive, and it's like,
43:30SPEAKERwhy would you not just put all of those on the same drive?
43:31SPEAKERI don't know if that's fault tolerance or just bad design.
43:34SPEAKER- Well, and some of those are required to boot.
43:36SPEAKERSo if you then replace that drive with another one
43:39SPEAKERand don't image the drive over,
43:40SPEAKERthen you can end up in a situation
43:41SPEAKERwhere you have to recover Windows
43:43SPEAKERfor taking out your F drive, which is, which is silly.
43:46SPEAKER- It's bad.
43:47SPEAKERIt's the other argument for unplugging everything.
43:49SPEAKERAbsolutely.
43:50SPEAKER- For sure.
43:53SPEAKER- Any other, like what are the other ways
43:55SPEAKERyou hose yourself doing this, Brad?
43:56SPEAKERYou got any other, any other on that front?
43:59SPEAKER- The big one for me here,
44:00SPEAKERand I guess this is kind of a big topic here,
44:02SPEAKERis Windows has become more reliant on the user directory,
44:05SPEAKERthe home directory in recent years.
44:07SPEAKERAnd so like that was never the case before,
44:10SPEAKERbefore Windows 10 even, like, you know,
44:12SPEAKERWindows 7 had a home directory, but who fucking cared
44:14SPEAKERunless you had like photos in it or something.
44:17SPEAKERBut these days backing up that home directory
44:20SPEAKERbefore I format and reinstall is like a,
44:22SPEAKERis maybe the most crucial thing that I do in that process.
44:25SPEAKER'Cause there's so much actual stuff of value in there now.
44:28SPEAKER- Well, so it's in, it's actually in two places too,
44:30SPEAKER'cause it's not just the C colon users slash your profile.
44:37SPEAKERAnd I usually get the whole profile,
44:40SPEAKERnot just, not just like documents and desktop and all that.
44:42SPEAKERYou really want, you really want the app data folder,
44:45SPEAKERwhich is typically hidden.
44:47SPEAKER- Yes, the problem is that the app data folder A
44:50SPEAKERis full of tiny files, so it takes forever to copy.
44:53SPEAKER- Yeah.
44:54SPEAKER- Just because tiny files take forever to copy.
44:56SPEAKERB, a lot of those files are like locked
44:58SPEAKERby the operating system and in use
45:00SPEAKERwhen you try to copy that folder.
45:01SPEAKERAnd so like you have to sit there and like cancel out
45:04SPEAKERof a bunch of things that it's not allowed to access.
45:06SPEAKERI wish there was an, I wish, frankly,
45:09SPEAKERWindows needs some kind of like profile export or something.
45:12SPEAKER- The backup process on Windows will do this
45:15SPEAKERwhile Windows is running.
45:17SPEAKERYou can make an image that's just the seed.
45:19SPEAKERSo if you delete all of like, one of the,
45:22SPEAKERthe other way to do this is to delete
45:23SPEAKERlike all of your Steam games,
45:25SPEAKERif you keep them on your C drive and everything that's big
45:28SPEAKERthat you don't want to keep.
45:29SPEAKERSo then you end up with like 10 gigs plus your crap, right?
45:32SPEAKER10 or 20 gigs for Windows and like uninstall
45:35SPEAKERyour Adobe apps, uninstall all the things
45:37SPEAKERyou're not gonna use, but leave their data behind.
45:39SPEAKERThen you make the image and you store that image,
45:42SPEAKERwhich is gonna be, you know, it's not the size
45:45SPEAKERof the drive, it's the size of the data on the drive.
45:47SPEAKERAnd, and those images are just readable image.
45:50SPEAKERThey're like VHDI image files.
45:51SPEAKERSo you can open them in almost anything.
45:53SPEAKER- Okay.
45:54SPEAKER- Windows, I think.
45:55SPEAKER- Do you have to image that externally?
45:57SPEAKERYou can't do that from-
45:58SPEAKER- You can do it inside Windows through some magic
46:00SPEAKERor I don't know how it works.
46:01SPEAKER- Okay.
46:04SPEAKER- It might, it might reboot you to do the C drive,
46:06SPEAKERbut the Windows has a built-in process for it
46:08SPEAKERand it just, it works.
46:09SPEAKERIt's the same tool that they've had since Windows 7.
46:11SPEAKER- Okay. That's good to know.
46:12SPEAKERI'll, I'll do that next time.
46:13SPEAKERLike I will get to this, I guess,
46:15SPEAKERbut like I customize a ton of stuff these days,
46:17SPEAKERa bunch of little scripts to do different things
46:19SPEAKERthat I want to automate.
46:20SPEAKERI have also embraced portable apps in a big way
46:23SPEAKERin the last few years.
46:24SPEAKER- Oh, so you just leave like a app folder
46:25SPEAKERon your desktop or something?
46:26SPEAKER- I have become that guy.
46:27SPEAKERWell, it's in my home folder.
46:29SPEAKER- Okay.
46:29SPEAKER- If I can get a portable version of an app,
46:32SPEAKERI pretty much always do it 'cause who wants to really,
46:34SPEAKERlike, you don't have to reinstall the apps
46:35SPEAKERwhen you install Windows.
46:36SPEAKERYou just drag that folder over.
46:37SPEAKER- That's all weird.
46:38SPEAKER- All the settings for those apps live in the directory
46:41SPEAKERwith those apps.
46:42SPEAKER- I was going to say the other place that stuff lives,
46:44SPEAKERspeaking of settings, is in the C colon program data folder,
46:48SPEAKERwhich I think,
46:49SPEAKERI don't know exactly what the program data folder is for.
46:51SPEAKERI think it's the ghost folder that does,
46:54SPEAKERso that apps that try to write to program files
46:56SPEAKERend up writing there instead.
46:58SPEAKER- Okay. Interesting.
46:59SPEAKER- So like if they're set up in a way
47:00SPEAKERthat they're writing to program files
47:01SPEAKERand would normally prompt a UAC prompt,
47:03SPEAKERthen they'll write to program data instead,
47:05SPEAKERbut I'm not 100% on that.
47:06SPEAKER- Wait, do you back that up too?
47:08SPEAKER- I back that up too.
47:09SPEAKER- Man, I should just start following your method
47:10SPEAKERof imaging the whole drive.
47:11SPEAKER- That sounds way safer.
47:12SPEAKER- Imaging the whole drive,
47:14SPEAKERyou have to mess that up real bad
47:16SPEAKERto cause yourself a problem.
47:18SPEAKER- Sure.
47:20SPEAKER- And honestly with like,
47:22SPEAKERI was going to say with hard drive prices the way they are,
47:24SPEAKERbut with hard drive prices the way they were
47:25SPEAKERbefore frigging hard drive space based cryptocurrency
47:29SPEAKERbecame a thing.
47:32SPEAKERIt's, you know, what's a 512 megabyte,
47:36SPEAKERa gigabyte backup file on your eight terabyte hard drive.
47:40SPEAKER- Yeah.
47:41SPEAKER- So what do you, like,
47:46SPEAKERI know you run a bunch of custom stuff,
47:48SPEAKERalthough I'm intrigued by this portable.
47:50SPEAKERI never, I always thought portable apps were for weirdos
47:52SPEAKERwho run their stuff off thumb drives.
47:53SPEAKERI never even considered putting them in my home folder
47:56SPEAKERand just making that how I do it.
47:58SPEAKER- I'm not going to lie.
47:59SPEAKERI was a little reluctant to say that
48:00SPEAKERbecause you immediately sound like that,
48:02SPEAKERlike ultra security conscious weirdo who's like,
48:05SPEAKERyeah, like totally like none of my software or settings
48:08SPEAKERcan ever touch a public computer or something like that.
48:11SPEAKERI swear, I swear I have nothing to hide.
48:14SPEAKER- Look, actually, when I plug into the library computer,
48:16SPEAKERI boot a virtual machine and run entirely within that
48:19SPEAKERoff of the thumb drive,
48:20SPEAKERwhich is then erased and nuked and pulled
48:22SPEAKERfrom my cloud account when I returned to my home computer.
48:25SPEAKER- To not know the comic book store guy was so into Unix,
48:28SPEAKERbut I guess it makes sense.
48:29SPEAKER- He's a Unix guy, man.
48:30SPEAKER- Of course he is with that ponytail.
48:32SPEAKER- He's got 16 hypervisors on his Threadripper 64 core.
48:38SPEAKER- Yes, that ponytail and goatee combo
48:41SPEAKERcan leave no doubt about his computer preferences.
48:44SPEAKER- He didn't just play quake in 1996.
48:46SPEAKERHe played quake on Linux in 1996.
48:49SPEAKER- Yes, yes.
48:52SPEAKERIt's really just ease of reinstalling stuff.
48:53SPEAKERLike it's really just like the settings, like I said,
48:56SPEAKERthe settings are portable, so, you know.
48:58SPEAKER- I get it, like it makes sense when you say it.
49:00SPEAKERI just was like, it never even in a million years, anyway.
49:05SPEAKER- It's just that it's honestly,
49:06SPEAKERit's just that much less stuff to reinstall.
49:08SPEAKERIf you ever have to wipe your windows and start over,
49:10SPEAKERit's kind of a big time saver.
49:11SPEAKER- But I mean, how often,
49:13SPEAKERbut we're literally, we just had this conversation.
49:15SPEAKERWe do this every two years.
49:16SPEAKERSo why does it like,
49:18SPEAKERthis is one of those places where I usually look at it
49:19SPEAKERand I like balance the amount of like, okay.
49:22SPEAKERSo when I was reviewing video cards for Maximum PC
49:24SPEAKERand was changing cards out constantly and I like,
49:27SPEAKERI would always keep an up-to-date system image.
49:29SPEAKERLike anytime I installed a new non-video card driver,
49:33SPEAKERI would roll back to the blank machine
49:36SPEAKERwith no video card drivers at all installed,
49:38SPEAKERthen install all the driver updates
49:41SPEAKERand big windows patches and all that stuff,
49:42SPEAKERand then make a new image
49:44SPEAKERand use that as the test bed image going forward.
49:46SPEAKERI don't do that.
49:47SPEAKERI mean, we do video cards occasionally here,
49:49SPEAKERbut it's not like I'm reviewing 40 video cards a year
49:52SPEAKERlike I did in 2007.
49:54SPEAKERSo, it's like automating shit.
50:01SPEAKERIt's the XKCD about automating.
50:02SPEAKERLike how much time is it gonna take you
50:03SPEAKERto automate the thing?
50:04SPEAKERAnd is it easier to just do it 20 times
50:07SPEAKERthan to spend 15 hours figuring out how to automate it?
50:10SPEAKERAnd usually it's easier to just fucking do it.
50:12SPEAKER- That's always the trade off.
50:13SPEAKER- Yeah.
50:16SPEAKERSo, with that in mind,
50:18SPEAKERI usually try to keep windows pretty stock.
50:20SPEAKERLike I don't install any weird shell stuff if I can help it.
50:23SPEAKERLike if there's options to not install shell extensions
50:27SPEAKERfor like your Explorer, I usually do that.
50:30SPEAKERLike, I guess I let Nvidia install
50:34SPEAKERtheir Nvidia control panel thing
50:36SPEAKERand the Dropbox extensions are pretty useful.
50:39SPEAKERBut for the most part, like I don't even have,
50:42SPEAKERI guess, well, I lied.
50:44SPEAKERNotepad++ has an extension, Adobe installed its nonsense.
50:48SPEAKEROneDrive has installed its nonsense.
50:50SPEAKERThere's a share with Skype button
50:51SPEAKERthat I don't know why any sane person would ever want.
50:54SPEAKER- Well, well, well.
50:55SPEAKER- Oh God, I'm the person.
50:57SPEAKERInput director has some stuff here.
50:59SPEAKER- Look who stumbled backwards into some shell extensions.
51:02SPEAKER- How do you get rid of shell extensions
51:04SPEAKERwithout wiping and reinstalling?
51:06SPEAKER- I don't think you do.
51:07SPEAKERIt sounds like it's time for a reinstall.
51:08SPEAKER- Oh no, Brad.
51:09SPEAKERI don't have time for that.
51:11SPEAKER- Okay, I don't mind right-click shell extensions too much.
51:14SPEAKERThey seem fairly unobtrusive.
51:15SPEAKER- Well, they're fine until they hold up file explorer
51:17SPEAKERfrom launching and then you're like,
51:18SPEAKER"Shit, my computer's not working again.
51:20SPEAKERHow do I fix this?"
51:21SPEAKER- That's fair.
51:22SPEAKERI am pretty wary of anything that integrates
51:24SPEAKERdirectly into the system UI.
51:27SPEAKERAfter years of running like full shell replacements.
51:30SPEAKER- Oh God, no, never that.
51:31SPEAKER- You're like swapping system DLLs in
51:34SPEAKERfrom some third party source.
51:35SPEAKERSo I'm like, "Look, I really wanted my Windows XP install
51:39SPEAKERto look like OS 10, okay."
51:41SPEAKER- I remember when Windows 8 came out
51:43SPEAKERand a bunch of companies were like,
51:45SPEAKER"Hey, we can make your Windows 8 look just like Windows 7."
51:49SPEAKERI was like, "I don't know.
51:51SPEAKERIt's just gonna make it really unstable and janky."
51:53SPEAKER- That stuff still exists.
51:56SPEAKERI forget.
51:58SPEAKER- Stardock was always big on that.
51:59SPEAKER- Stardock was, yes, kind of the go-to, I guess.
52:02SPEAKERThere's like some open source stuff out there now.
52:03SPEAKERThere's a Windows classic shell,
52:05SPEAKERI want to say is one of them.
52:07SPEAKER- Can I make Windows 10 look like Windows 3.1?
52:10SPEAKERThat's what I want.
52:11SPEAKER- Now you're talking.
52:12SPEAKER- I want file manager.
52:14SPEAKER- Are we gonna, I don't know how long we're gonna go here.
52:16SPEAKERAre we gonna get into the Sun Valley stuff at all
52:17SPEAKERbefore we go?
52:18SPEAKER- I don't know what Sun Valley is.
52:20SPEAKER- So June 24th, they're doing a live stream
52:22SPEAKERfor the future of Windows.
52:24SPEAKER- I think we should like live stream that
52:25SPEAKERand watch it on Twitch or something together.
52:28SPEAKER- I cannot believe I'm sitting here thinking about
52:30SPEAKERtalking over a Windows live stream with this.
52:33SPEAKERLook, this is what I've been,
52:34SPEAKERmy entire life has led to this moment.
52:37SPEAKER- We've just been building up to this.
52:38SPEAKERThis was the end goal all along.
52:40SPEAKER- Here's a place that I have endemic expertise
52:43SPEAKERthat goes back 20 years.
52:45SPEAKER- At a minimum, we should at least watch that
52:47SPEAKERand do an episode on it, I think.
52:48SPEAKER- Yeah.
52:49SPEAKER- It's unclear exactly how extensive it's gonna be,
52:52SPEAKERbut they are very like, I think Nadella himself commented
52:54SPEAKERthat it was like, this is what's next for Windows.
52:57SPEAKER- Yeah.
52:58SPEAKER- You're seeing the term Windows 11 being thrown around
53:00SPEAKERas a rumor a little bit.
53:01SPEAKERWho knows if that's actually gonna happen or not?
53:02SPEAKER- Windows Next has also been tossed around.
53:05SPEAKER- Right.
53:06SPEAKER- I mean, it's interesting 'cause when they pitched
53:07SPEAKERWindows 10 to us after the Windows 8 debacle,
53:10SPEAKERit was literally pitched as yo,
53:12SPEAKERthis is gonna be the last version of Windows
53:13SPEAKERyou're ever gonna need.
53:14SPEAKERThis is Windows as a service.
53:15SPEAKERThis is what we're doing from now on.
53:17SPEAKERAnd it's not even been 10 years yet.
53:20SPEAKERSo.
53:21SPEAKER- It's true.
53:22SPEAKER- I mean, but Apple did announce that they're doing OS 11.
53:24SPEAKER- Right, so they're on OS 11 now.
53:26SPEAKER- Like they don't have number parity anymore.
53:28SPEAKER- That's right.
53:29SPEAKER- And remember when the second Xbox was called the Xbox 360
53:35SPEAKERbecause it was launching against the PlayStation 3.
53:37SPEAKER- Look, I'm here, I'm gonna tell you something.
53:40SPEAKERThe next PlayStation is gonna be the PlayStation 6.
53:43SPEAKERAnd Microsoft is gonna come out with the Xbox One 2
53:46SPEAKERor the Xbox Series S.
53:47SPEAKERNo, they're gonna call it the Xbox 720
53:50SPEAKER'cause that's one better.
53:51SPEAKER- That's right, dude.
53:52SPEAKERI bet Xbox 720 would fly off the shelves.
53:55SPEAKERThat's just like hitting nostalgia in a really potent way.
53:57SPEAKERLook, if it had blades, day one purchase.
54:00SPEAKER- Yeah, man.
54:01SPEAKER- I instant, okay, anyway.
54:03SPEAKERSo ways you can make reinstalling easier.
54:06SPEAKEROh, wait, we didn't talk about any of the weird stuff
54:08SPEAKERyou install.
54:08SPEAKERYou install a bunch of good stuff.
54:09SPEAKER- Do I?
54:10SPEAKER- I think so.
54:11SPEAKER- Well, a lot of it is weird.
54:13SPEAKERIt serves my needs, let's say.
54:15SPEAKER- For example.
54:16SPEAKER- What do you wanna know about?
54:17SPEAKER- I have questions.
54:19SPEAKER- I've gotten really big on automating stuff
54:20SPEAKERthrough the command line that you can then just throw
54:22SPEAKERinto like group policy or task scheduler,
54:25SPEAKERall the eight different ways that you can make Windows
54:28SPEAKERrun things on a schedule or on command.
54:32SPEAKER- The command line stuff that you've done
54:33SPEAKERto do monitor switching and resolution switching
54:35SPEAKERand all that stuff is really interesting.
54:36SPEAKERLike I wouldn't be able to turn HDR on and off automatically.
54:39SPEAKERThat sounds awesome.
54:40SPEAKER- So that one came about through our friend Nirsoft.
54:43SPEAKER- Oh, we love Nirsoft.
54:44SPEAKER- With their banger, their hot number one banger,
54:48SPEAKERcontrol my monitor.
54:49SPEAKER- I love control my monitor.
54:51SPEAKER- It has a command line interface of its own
54:53SPEAKERthat lets you basically anything that your monitor supports
54:55SPEAKERover, what is the monitor command standard?
55:01SPEAKER- D-E-D.
55:01SPEAKER- D-E, oh, that's different.
55:04SPEAKER- DDR, dance dance revival, D-E.
55:06SPEAKER- D-E-D-C-I.
55:08SPEAKER- D-C-E-I.
55:09SPEAKER- God, I'm flooding this badly.
55:11SPEAKERI could pull up my monitor voice.
55:14SPEAKER- I'm gonna ask you a question that you can listen to
55:16SPEAKERkind of half-assed and then I think that if,
55:19SPEAKERwell, it's called control my monitor.
55:21SPEAKER- Yes.
55:22SPEAKER- I think if that was a song,
55:24SPEAKERif control my monitor was a song,
55:26SPEAKERit would be like some late '90s industrial,
55:30SPEAKERmaybe sung by a guy with a German accent that's like,
55:33SPEAKERcontrol.
55:35SPEAKER- Some like really freaky looking like white contact lenses.
55:39SPEAKER- Yeah, and he's wearing a trench coat,
55:40SPEAKERcontrol my monitor.
55:43SPEAKERAnd then there's like a real heavy baseline
55:45SPEAKERand like some thrash guitar in the background.
55:48SPEAKER- We have missed a calling.
55:49SPEAKER- Control.
55:51SPEAKER- 25 years ago.
55:53SPEAKERD-D-C-C-I is the standard I'm thinking of.
55:55SPEAKER- Oh yeah, that one, of course.
55:56SPEAKER- D-D-C/C-I.
55:57SPEAKERIt's a way to issue commands to monitors
55:58SPEAKERover basically the display cable.
56:01SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
56:02SPEAKER- So this thing's awesome because it'll let you do
56:05SPEAKERjust about anything your monitor supports
56:07SPEAKERfrom the command line, like changing display modes,
56:10SPEAKERchanging inputs, like anything the monitor does.
56:12SPEAKERThe problem is that the command interface
56:14SPEAKERuses like the serial numbers
56:16SPEAKERof the individual monitors you're using
56:17SPEAKERand the V-C-P codes, which are just random numbers.
56:21SPEAKERIt's not the most user--
56:21SPEAKER- So where do you pull that stuff out
56:22SPEAKERof the registry or something?
56:24SPEAKER- No, you query your monitor.
56:25SPEAKERIt's a GUI program as well.
56:28SPEAKERYou use the GUI version.
56:29SPEAKER- Control.
56:31SPEAKER- Look, if you want to control your monitor,
56:33SPEAKERyou got to work for it.
56:34SPEAKER- Control your monitor.
56:37SPEAKER- Trust me, I am.
56:38SPEAKERSo you use the GUI version of the app
56:40SPEAKERto query all the V-C-P codes that your monitor supports
56:43SPEAKERand then kind of trial and error your way through
56:45SPEAKERfiguring out what they do.
56:46SPEAKERAnd then I wrote a little PowerShell script
56:48SPEAKERto just like take those codes
56:50SPEAKERand convert them into something human readable.
56:52SPEAKER- That sounds awesome.
56:53SPEAKER- It's because of the way my monitors are arranged.
56:55SPEAKERI can't even reach the controls
56:57SPEAKER'cause they're on the back of the monitor
56:58SPEAKER'cause these monitors are stupid as hell.
57:00SPEAKERLike it's just a huge pain in the ass
57:02SPEAKERto manually change the inputs on these things.
57:04SPEAKER- So you're saying you'd have to stand up?
57:05SPEAKER- So yes, basically.
57:07SPEAKERIt's worse than that.
57:07SPEAKERI have to like turn my arm into a pretzel
57:09SPEAKERto get up under and behind the monitor
57:11SPEAKERto reach the stupid little joystick they put back there.
57:13SPEAKER- No, thank you.
57:14SPEAKER- So instead I made a script called MonPut for monitor input.
57:19SPEAKERSo I pull up PowerShell if I need to change the input
57:22SPEAKERand it's just like MonPut left to HDMI two
57:25SPEAKERand it immediately switches monitor input.
57:26SPEAKERIt's like way faster than-
57:27SPEAKER- Wait, what, you can do that?
57:28SPEAKER- Yes, that's way faster than like, I've timed it.
57:32SPEAKERIt's like 10 times faster than like reaching back there
57:34SPEAKERand navigating through the stupid joystick.
57:36SPEAKERLike you could put that on a shortcut if you wanted to.
57:38SPEAKERIt's like, it's pretty good.
57:42SPEAKERSo like I've got a zillion little things like that.
57:44SPEAKER- I need MonPut, Brad.
57:46SPEAKER- I can send it to you.
57:47SPEAKERIt's a very bad, it's a very clumsy PowerShell script.
57:50SPEAKER- Control.
57:53SPEAKER- You'll have to swap the serial numbers
57:54SPEAKERand yours will have different VCP codes.
57:56SPEAKERSo you'll have to-
57:57SPEAKER- That's fine, I can get new PCP codes.
57:59SPEAKER- You'll have to do some of that work yourself.
58:01SPEAKERBut like I've got a bunch of little stuff like that
58:02SPEAKERthat I've run at the command line now
58:04SPEAKERjust to make things faster.
58:05SPEAKER- You realize that we're gonna have to do a whole episode
58:07SPEAKERabout your, we're gonna get a bunch of questions
58:09SPEAKERfrom people who are like,
58:10SPEAKERI wanna know about all of Brad's little scripts.
58:11SPEAKER- Dude, I could do a whole episode
58:12SPEAKERon why I need to set one power plan
58:15SPEAKERwhen the PC is at the login screen
58:17SPEAKERand have it set a different power plan once I've logged in.
58:20SPEAKER- I, one of the things that's weird about my setup
58:22SPEAKERis because I have the third output on my video card
58:26SPEAKERconnected to a capture card on the second computer.
58:28SPEAKERWhen I turn on, when I have the stream computer on,
58:32SPEAKERI have three monitors.
58:33SPEAKERWhen I have the stream computer off, I have two monitors
58:35SPEAKERand it thinks it's completely different configuration
58:37SPEAKEReither way.
58:38SPEAKERSo like, which one's the primary monitor?
58:40SPEAKERIt's always swapping around like crazy and it's maddening.
58:44SPEAKER- That's inferior.
58:45SPEAKEROh, you know what?
58:46SPEAKERIt's changed which one is the primary monitor.
58:48SPEAKER- Does it control your monitor?
58:50SPEAKER- No, this is a different,
58:51SPEAKERI think it might also be nurse off,
58:52SPEAKERbut it's a different nurse off utility.
58:55SPEAKERThat one's called desk swap.
58:56SPEAKERI just open a prompt and type desk swap
58:58SPEAKERand it switches to the other monitor,
58:59SPEAKERmoves the desktop and all the windows
59:01SPEAKERand everything over there.
59:01SPEAKER- That sounds great.
59:02SPEAKERThat sounds great.
59:03SPEAKER- You can type faster than you can like reach
59:05SPEAKERand press buttons, right?
59:06SPEAKER- Yeah, no, like the menus are a nice,
59:07SPEAKERyou know, like I always say, do I have the right one?
59:09SPEAKERNo, it's that, no, no, no, not that one.
59:12SPEAKERNo, yes, yeah.
59:14SPEAKER- Menus are bad, typing is good.
59:16SPEAKER- Okay, we are going way long here,
59:17SPEAKERbut let's ways to make reinstalling easier.
59:21SPEAKERWhenever we do this kind of thing,
59:23SPEAKERpeople always talk about Ninite,
59:25SPEAKERwhich is like the oldest, most revered,
59:30SPEAKERall-in-one app installer.
59:31SPEAKERAnd you basically go to this webpage
59:32SPEAKERand you click a bunch of shit that you want to install,
59:34SPEAKERlike Chrome and Firefox and I don't know,
59:37SPEAKERNorton's cryptocurrency minor.
59:39SPEAKER- Zoom, Discord, Skype, iTunes, VLC, malware bytes.
59:42SPEAKERI'm just reading key pass seven zero,
59:44SPEAKERlike everything you can think of is on here.
59:46SPEAKERThis has been around forever.
59:47SPEAKERI feel like I saw this thing 15 years ago, N-I-N-I-T-E.com.
59:51SPEAKER- We wrote about it at Maximum PC
59:53SPEAKERbefore I left Maximum PC, absolutely.
59:55SPEAKER- Okay.
59:56SPEAKER- People like it.
59:57SPEAKERI always am skeptical of stuff like that
59:59SPEAKER'cause I don't exactly understand how they make money.
1:00:01SPEAKER- Yes, same.
1:00:03SPEAKER- My assumption is that like somewhere buried
1:00:05SPEAKERin one of those things is like a Yahoo toolbar
1:00:07SPEAKERthat generates that money every time you use the toolbar
1:00:09SPEAKERor something.
1:00:10SPEAKER- That is definitely a concern.
1:00:12SPEAKERBut like also you get that with everything you do now.
1:00:14SPEAKERSo, you know, good luck.
1:00:17SPEAKER- This says Lockheed Martin uses it.
1:00:20SPEAKER- Oh, well.
1:00:20SPEAKER- And Harvard Business School and Pepsi.
1:00:22SPEAKER- If the people that brought us the SR-71 Blackbird,
1:00:26SPEAKERif it's good enough for them,
1:00:28SPEAKERit's probably good enough for me.
1:00:29SPEAKER- I mean, it does seem very convenient,
1:00:31SPEAKERbut I, again, I don't know.
1:00:34SPEAKER- One of the things, it's not really a problem anymore
1:00:37SPEAKER'cause Windows has pretty much pretty good support
1:00:39SPEAKERfor most network cards,
1:00:40SPEAKERassuming you're not doing something unnatural
1:00:42SPEAKERlike, you know, connecting 10 giggy or 40 giggy
1:00:46SPEAKERor something like that in your house.
1:00:50SPEAKERBut I like to download all, before I wipe anything,
1:00:53SPEAKERI always download all the current drivers.
1:00:56SPEAKERSo I'll get like GeForce Experience
1:00:57SPEAKERor the AMD driver utility, my network drivers,
1:01:01SPEAKERmy chipset drivers, all of the motherboard stuff
1:01:04SPEAKERthat I want.
1:01:06SPEAKERI never install all of the motherboard stuff
1:01:08SPEAKER'cause there's always some stuff like,
1:01:09SPEAKERlike I don't want the thing that lets me charge my phone
1:01:11SPEAKERat full speed from my PC's USB ports.
1:01:13SPEAKERThat seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
1:01:17SPEAKERBut yeah, all the current drivers, browsers,
1:01:21SPEAKERaudio drivers, keyboard stuff, all of that,
1:01:25SPEAKERput it in a secondary folder,
1:01:27SPEAKERon a folder on a secondary hard drive or on my thumb drive,
1:01:30SPEAKERa Dropbox, one password, password manager,
1:01:32SPEAKERall that kind of stuff.
1:01:35SPEAKERI pay, I always spend, I used to just do
1:01:41SPEAKERa spontaneous reinstall and I don't do that so much anymore
1:01:45SPEAKERbecause every time I've done it, it causes a problem.
1:01:47SPEAKERLike the time that a viewer had made me
1:01:50SPEAKERa custom pallet swap skin for me to use in Spelunky.
1:01:55SPEAKERAnd I forgot that it's backed up
1:01:57SPEAKERin the C colon slash program files drive.
1:02:00SPEAKER- Oh, and then it was gone forever.
1:02:01SPEAKER- And I didn't back that up
1:02:02SPEAKERbecause no user data's in there usually.
1:02:05SPEAKER- So think about all the things that you use on the reg.
1:02:08SPEAKER- Well, hey, that's an argument
1:02:09SPEAKERfor your image of the entire drive strategy.
1:02:11SPEAKER- It is, it is.
1:02:15SPEAKERLike keyboard maps are important for that.
1:02:16SPEAKERLike if you have a programmable keyboard,
1:02:19SPEAKERthen think about where like in what weird folder
1:02:22SPEAKERyou save that shit 'cause it's never where you should put it.
1:02:24SPEAKERIt's always like someplace that's convenient
1:02:26SPEAKERthe moment you want to reprogram how your keyboard works.
1:02:32SPEAKERWhere do you store?
1:02:33SPEAKERLike do you have a Dropbox folder
1:02:36SPEAKERwith all of your weird little scripts or something Brad?
1:02:38SPEAKER- I probably should do that.
1:02:39SPEAKERThey're in my home directory.
1:02:40SPEAKERSo that whole thing gets backed up before I reinstall.
1:02:45SPEAKERSo like, you know, having all the portable apps in there,
1:02:49SPEAKERhaving all the scripts in there, like the, you know,
1:02:50SPEAKERit's everything.
1:02:52SPEAKER- You should put that in Dropbox and you have it everywhere.
1:02:54SPEAKER- So like, I love that Microsoft has been embracing
1:02:57SPEAKERa lot more like open source sensibilities
1:02:58SPEAKERand like looking at the kind of Unix model
1:03:00SPEAKERof the home directory should be the central repository
1:03:03SPEAKERof all your shit.
1:03:04SPEAKER- Yeah, agreed.
1:03:05SPEAKER- But I feel like they're like getting it,
1:03:07SPEAKERbut not getting it or they're obeying the letter of the law,
1:03:09SPEAKERbut not the spirit, you know, because again,
1:03:11SPEAKERlike why is this giant app data folder
1:03:13SPEAKERin your home directory full of all this esoteric OS stuff
1:03:17SPEAKERwhen like it should be a bunch of plain text setting files
1:03:19SPEAKERand things that are like easy to keep track of
1:03:21SPEAKERand move around and not stuff you don't know about.
1:03:23SPEAKERLike I feel like everything in your home directory,
1:03:25SPEAKERyou should be able to identify yourself.
1:03:27SPEAKER- I mean, I think that works in a world
1:03:31SPEAKERwhere Windows applications have always been smart and good
1:03:35SPEAKERand didn't use a lot of binary data files.
1:03:37SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:03:38SPEAKER- But in the 21st century, like there's a lot of cruft.
1:03:42SPEAKER- It's just a lot of legacy crap to account for,
1:03:44SPEAKERI guess you're right.
1:03:44SPEAKER- I mean, like.
1:03:45SPEAKER- It's a lot better than it used to be.
1:03:47SPEAKER- Like I, you know, it does annoy me that like
1:03:49SPEAKERthe default places that people put like crash dumps
1:03:52SPEAKERand stuff like that is usually in that folder
1:03:54SPEAKERbecause they like, for example, TSL game is my PUBG folder
1:03:59SPEAKERand I'm in the saved crashes.
1:04:01SPEAKERLet's see how big the crashes folder is in there.
1:04:03SPEAKERI bet it's real big.
1:04:05SPEAKERIt's not even, oh, 3.98 gigabytes.
1:04:07SPEAKERThat's not as big as I was expecting,
1:04:09SPEAKERbut it's a pretty crash of crash logs, that's kind of one.
1:04:12SPEAKERWell, I mean, it's PUBG, it's not the most reliable.
1:04:18SPEAKERYeah, so like that kind of stuff is weird.
1:04:21SPEAKERI still think find it's worth saving 'cause it's easier.
1:04:24SPEAKERIt's one of those things that's better to have
1:04:25SPEAKERthan to not have.
1:04:27SPEAKERThe other stuff I always worry that I'm gonna lose
1:04:29SPEAKERis stuff like PuTTY.
1:04:31SPEAKERLike, well, I still use PuTTY.
1:04:32SPEAKERI should switch to the, just normal SSH now probably.
1:04:37SPEAKER- Yes, it's built into Windows.
1:04:38SPEAKERThe new Windows terminal is very good, I can attest.
1:04:41SPEAKERYou don't even have to, excuse me,
1:04:43SPEAKERyou don't even have to edit the JSON file manually
1:04:45SPEAKERto set up the configuration anymore.
1:04:47SPEAKERIt has actual settings now.
1:04:48SPEAKER- Wow, that's amazing.
1:04:50SPEAKER- It's pretty neat.
1:04:51SPEAKER- But yeah, so I have all like my SSL keys
1:04:53SPEAKERand stuff like that stored in a folder in a dot file
1:04:56SPEAKERin my home directory and stuff like that.
1:04:58SPEAKERSo yeah, I'll look for the home,
1:05:00SPEAKERlook for the dot files, I guess.
1:05:01SPEAKER- The home directory actually matters now.
1:05:05SPEAKERI have a question here.
1:05:06SPEAKERSo under, in our column of ways to make reinstalling easier.
1:05:10SPEAKER- Yes.
1:05:11SPEAKER- I had used Clonezilla for some other random stuff recently
1:05:14SPEAKERand thought it was pretty neat.
1:05:15SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:05:16SPEAKER- And the idea occurred to me of like,
1:05:18SPEAKERwhy not do that perfect Windows install
1:05:20SPEAKERand set up all the basics,
1:05:21SPEAKERlike all the customizations that you like,
1:05:22SPEAKERbut none of the crap,
1:05:23SPEAKERnone of the stuff that's gonna make it janky,
1:05:26SPEAKERand then just image that off
1:05:28SPEAKERbecause Clonezilla can image like the GPT stuff,
1:05:30SPEAKERlike all the boot sector stuff that needs to be there
1:05:32SPEAKERto actually make the drive bootable.
1:05:34SPEAKERWhy not just do that once, image that off,
1:05:36SPEAKERand then whenever you want a nice clean install,
1:05:38SPEAKERinstead of going through all that process again,
1:05:39SPEAKERjust re-image it onto the boot drive.
1:05:42SPEAKER- Look, Brad.
1:05:43SPEAKER- But you said there are reasons that's not a great idea.
1:05:46SPEAKER- Yeah, so it's the time thing, right?
1:05:49SPEAKERSo like you're gonna spend,
1:05:50SPEAKERlike that makes a ton of sense if you are in a situation
1:05:53SPEAKERwhere you wanna like wipe the machine every week, right?
1:05:57SPEAKERLike if you're like at the end of the week,
1:05:59SPEAKERI'm gonna wipe all of last week's stuff away
1:06:01SPEAKERand I'm gonna save all my work in my home folder,
1:06:02SPEAKERI'm gonna mount that on another drive,
1:06:04SPEAKERwhich is shockingly difficult to do in Windows still.
1:06:09SPEAKERBut like if you could say at install time,
1:06:12SPEAKERyes, I want my home drive to be on this SSD
1:06:14SPEAKERand I want Windows to live on this small SSD
1:06:17SPEAKERand this is how this is gonna work from now on,
1:06:21SPEAKERthat would be fabulous and it would be great.
1:06:23SPEAKERBut in reality, A, the UEFI stuff in the BIOS
1:06:27SPEAKERhas to know exactly where on the drive
1:06:30SPEAKERand has to be able to speak to where the UEFI partition is
1:06:33SPEAKERon your drive infrastructure.
1:06:35SPEAKERAnd I think Clonezilla can handle that now
1:06:37SPEAKERfrom what they say,
1:06:38SPEAKERbut I haven't used it enough to feel confident in it.
1:06:42SPEAKERAnd you're gonna spend a lot of time doing that
1:06:44SPEAKERand then the moment, what's gonna happen is,
1:06:47SPEAKERyou're gonna, a year from now, you're gonna be like,
1:06:49SPEAKERoh, I need to just do my clean install, right?
1:06:52SPEAKERAnd then do you know what the first thing you have to do
1:06:53SPEAKERwhen you get the clean install up is?
1:06:55SPEAKER- Set up all the other stuff.
1:06:57SPEAKER- You're gonna have to upgrade to Windows 21.H2.
1:07:00SPEAKER- Right, yes.
1:07:01SPEAKER- You're gonna have to install,
1:07:02SPEAKERupgrade every driver on the computer.
1:07:04SPEAKER- I did consider that, that that's just,
1:07:06SPEAKERyou're just asking for like a two years worth
1:07:08SPEAKERof security updates to install in a row.
1:07:10SPEAKER- Yeah, so it's like you're losing the benefit
1:07:13SPEAKERof having a clean, no driver install.
1:07:15SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:07:16SPEAKER- And all you're doing is like doing a bunch of work
1:07:20SPEAKERand then deferring doing a little bit of work
1:07:24SPEAKERto do a bunch of work again, so.
1:07:27SPEAKER- There is no perfect Windows reinstall strategy,
1:07:29SPEAKERI think is what we're arriving at.
1:07:31SPEAKER- I mean, I'm kind of thinking about
1:07:33SPEAKERmaybe just doing the Windows,
1:07:35SPEAKERthe problem is doing the Windows clean start
1:07:37SPEAKERat somebody who doesn't use
1:07:38SPEAKERvery many Windows store applications
1:07:39SPEAKERand uses a buttload of other really custom stuff.
1:07:42SPEAKERIt doesn't really save me a lot.
1:07:44SPEAKER- You're right, so let me pull that up real fast.
1:07:46SPEAKERI forgot to write that in the notes here,
1:07:47SPEAKERbut we definitely have to cover that.
1:07:48SPEAKER- Yeah, like as of Windows 10 or did they even start
1:07:50SPEAKERdoing this in Windows 8?
1:07:51SPEAKER- Maybe even 7.
1:07:52SPEAKER- Right, I think they used to call it fresh start.
1:07:55SPEAKER- Yeah, it was called fresh start for a long time.
1:07:56SPEAKERThere's multiple tiers.
1:07:57SPEAKERThere's the one that just like wipes the registry
1:08:00SPEAKERand starts from scratch,
1:08:01SPEAKERbut leaves all your data on the hard drive.
1:08:03SPEAKER- Yes.
1:08:04SPEAKER- Which is a real weird choice.
1:08:05SPEAKERI don't think they do that one anymore.
1:08:07SPEAKER- So now it's called reset this PC.
1:08:09SPEAKERIt's in the recovery tab of the update
1:08:13SPEAKERand security page of settings.
1:08:16SPEAKERSo go into settings, update and security, and then recovery.
1:08:19SPEAKERReset this PC.
1:08:20SPEAKERIf you hit get started,
1:08:21SPEAKERI have clicked it in the middle of this recording.
1:08:23SPEAKERI am now about two clicks away from wiping this PC.
1:08:26SPEAKER- Don't do that, Brad.
1:08:27SPEAKER- Before we finish recording the show.
1:08:29SPEAKER- Upload the file first, then press the button.
1:08:33SPEAKER- The two options are keep my files or remove everything.
1:08:36SPEAKER- Keep my files seems good.
1:08:38SPEAKER- Because my installs are getting a little janky,
1:08:39SPEAKERI almost went down this road a week or two ago
1:08:42SPEAKERbecause yes, doesn't keep my files sound like,
1:08:44SPEAKERoh, it'll be like a fresh clean install.
1:08:45SPEAKERExcept everything will still be there.
1:08:47SPEAKERBut it turns out it removes anything, like you said,
1:08:51SPEAKERthat was not installed from the windows store,
1:08:53SPEAKERwhich in my case is about 99% of the software
1:08:56SPEAKERon this machine.
1:08:57SPEAKER- So does that mean it saves all your settings and stuff
1:08:59SPEAKERin your app data folder?
1:09:01SPEAKER- I don't know.
1:09:02SPEAKERThat's a good question,
1:09:04SPEAKERbut I don't think I'm brave enough to try it without a net.
1:09:08SPEAKER- My understanding was that it saves the app data stuff.
1:09:10SPEAKERIt just wipes the program files folder,
1:09:15SPEAKERbut everything in your home profile is safe, I think.
1:09:17SPEAKER- That might be the case.
1:09:19SPEAKEREven if that's true,
1:09:20SPEAKERI wonder how many of those applications
1:09:21SPEAKERcould just recover gracefully with a new install
1:09:24SPEAKERand find all that stuff.
1:09:25SPEAKER- I mean, the fundamental problem though,
1:09:27SPEAKERis that if it doesn't work out well,
1:09:29SPEAKERthen you've done a bunch of time doing this thing
1:09:31SPEAKERand then you still have to do the clean install anyway,
1:09:33SPEAKERso why bother?
1:09:34SPEAKER- Totally, that's exactly where I came to.
1:09:35SPEAKERI was like, you know what?
1:09:36SPEAKERI'm just gonna take the extra half a day
1:09:37SPEAKERthat this is gonna require and just do it right.
1:09:40SPEAKER'Cause let's face it,
1:09:41SPEAKERthere really is only one way to do it right
1:09:43SPEAKERand that is format the drive.
1:09:45SPEAKER- I think so too.
1:09:46SPEAKER- Format the drive.
1:09:47SPEAKERI know it sounds old fashioned, but.
1:09:50SPEAKER- Do you wanna run down the stuff?
1:09:52SPEAKERI feel like, I mean,
1:09:53SPEAKERI feel like everybody's list of stuff
1:09:54SPEAKERyou always reinstall is gonna be different,
1:09:56SPEAKERbut for me, it's like browser, password manager,
1:09:58SPEAKERcloud storage, like Dropbox or Box or OneDrive
1:10:01SPEAKERor whatever you use.
1:10:02SPEAKER- Yeah, 7-Zip is crucial.
1:10:05SPEAKER- 7-Zip is really good.
1:10:06SPEAKERDon't install the shell extensions.
1:10:09SPEAKER- For 7-Zip?
1:10:10SPEAKER- I don't install it.
1:10:10SPEAKERI try not to install the shell extensions for anything.
1:10:13SPEAKER- I hate shell extensions.
1:10:14SPEAKER- I use these 7-Zip shell extensions
1:10:16SPEAKERto 7-Zip the project for this podcast every single week.
1:10:20SPEAKER- Yeah, yuck.
1:10:21SPEAKER- It works.
1:10:22SPEAKER- I look, I'm sure it works great.
1:10:23SPEAKERI just don't wanna punch, I don't wanna see,
1:10:25SPEAKERI only wanna see zipping when I wanna zip, you know?
1:10:28SPEAKER- Yeah, I guess.
1:10:31SPEAKERIncidentally, that process is probably
1:10:32SPEAKERthe number one reason I want a new CPU.
1:10:35SPEAKERI have a lowly, fairly old quad core i7.
1:10:39SPEAKER- You're due.
1:10:40SPEAKER- Like, I want a 5900X just so that 7-Zipping this podcast
1:10:43SPEAKERevery week goes like three times faster.
1:10:45SPEAKERThat's the main reason.
1:10:46SPEAKER- I would hope it would go more than three times faster
1:10:48SPEAKERon the CPU.
1:10:49SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway, you're probably right.
1:10:51SPEAKER- I love AirServer.
1:10:52SPEAKER- What is that?
1:10:53SPEAKER- Oh, AirServer is an AirPlay and Chromecast client
1:10:57SPEAKERfor your PC.
1:10:58SPEAKER- Oh, I was just looking for one of those things.
1:11:01SPEAKERSo you can AirPlay audio from your phone to your PC?
1:11:03SPEAKER- So when I wanna listen to, like,
1:11:04SPEAKERinstead of having a podcast client that lives on my PC,
1:11:06SPEAKERI just connect my phone with AirPlay to the PC
1:11:10SPEAKERand hit the button and I listen to the podcast on my phone.
1:11:13SPEAKER- That's exactly what I want.
1:11:14SPEAKERI use a meditation app on iOS that sounds kind of shitty
1:11:18SPEAKERcoming out of the phone speakers that would sound great
1:11:20SPEAKERcoming out of these PC speakers.
1:11:21SPEAKER- Yeah, it's freaking awesome.
1:11:22SPEAKER- AirServer?
1:11:23SPEAKER- AirServer, it costs like 15 bucks.
1:11:24SPEAKERIt's worth every penny.
1:11:25SPEAKER- Okay, I have to look that up.
1:11:28SPEAKER- I installed my cloud backup, Python,
1:11:31SPEAKER'cause I have a couple of Python scripts
1:11:33SPEAKERthat do this similar stuff that you're, like,
1:11:35SPEAKERone that lets me connect my MIDI controller
1:11:39SPEAKERto my mixer to control those sliders
1:11:41SPEAKERand stuff like that over the network
1:11:42SPEAKERand some other small things that I don't use that often.
1:11:44SPEAKER- Oh, here's a, this is a good time to ask this question.
1:11:46SPEAKERHow do you feel about package managers?
1:11:47SPEAKER'Cause I feel like those have become more prominent
1:11:50SPEAKERon Windows. - Packmod?
1:11:51SPEAKERWhat's a package manager?
1:11:53SPEAKER- Well, like, Chocolaty is probably the biggest one.
1:11:55SPEAKERIt's not my favorite name for a thing.
1:11:56SPEAKERIt's a little twee.
1:11:57SPEAKER- I don't know what that is.
1:11:58SPEAKERI've never used one of those.
1:11:59SPEAKER- Well, you know, like on, you know, like--
1:12:01SPEAKER- Oh, for like PPM.
1:12:02SPEAKER- Like Apt, Apt and Debian and Linux
1:12:05SPEAKERor, you know, Yum in the Red Hat world
1:12:09SPEAKERor on for BSD, it's PKG package.
1:12:12SPEAKER- Yeah, PPE is the Python one.
1:12:15SPEAKEROr PPM is the Python one, Python package manager.
1:12:18SPEAKER- Right.
1:12:19SPEAKER- That's what I use.
1:12:20SPEAKER- Okay, there's another one there
1:12:21SPEAKERthat's on the tip of my tongue,
1:12:22SPEAKERbut, like, Windows package managers are becoming a thing.
1:12:25SPEAKERLike, Chocolaty has been around for ages
1:12:27SPEAKERand has, like, a pretty good repository.
1:12:30SPEAKERAnd then WinGet, did you see that?
1:12:31SPEAKERMicrosoft announced their own last year.
1:12:33SPEAKER- No.
1:12:34SPEAKER- Yes, Microsoft is working on its own package manager
1:12:35SPEAKERcalled WinGet.
1:12:36SPEAKER- It's nice that Microsoft finally got a win.
1:12:38SPEAKERThat's exciting.
1:12:40SPEAKER- I mean, this is what I mean, you know,
1:12:41SPEAKERlike with the home directory stuff,
1:12:42SPEAKERlike they are at least looking at what goes on
1:12:44SPEAKERin the Unix world and trying to emulate it
1:12:46SPEAKERat varying levels of success, but--
1:12:48SPEAKER- It's really funny you said that.
1:12:49SPEAKERAnd then I went and looked at my Windows home folder
1:12:52SPEAKERand it is full of files that start with dot
1:12:55SPEAKERand then a folder name,
1:12:56SPEAKERwhich is like the most Unix-ass Unix shit.
1:12:59SPEAKER- I love that.
1:12:59SPEAKER- It's cool, yeah.
1:13:00SPEAKERThat has become extremely my shit,
1:13:03SPEAKERbut like I love package managers when they work.
1:13:06SPEAKERLike in Windows, like even Chocolaty
1:13:08SPEAKERis a little janky sometimes,
1:13:09SPEAKERbut it's like, it's the difference between
1:13:12SPEAKERgoing and hunting down an installer on a webpage
1:13:14SPEAKERand finding it in your download folder
1:13:15SPEAKERand double clicking it and going through a process.
1:13:17SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:13:18SPEAKER- Or just popping a terminal
1:13:19SPEAKERand typing Choco install blank.
1:13:21SPEAKER- Can you get like nurse off stuff there?
1:13:25SPEAKER- That's a good question, actually.
1:13:26SPEAKERLet me just see if Chocolaty,
1:13:29SPEAKERsee if control my monitor is on a--
1:13:31SPEAKER- Control.
1:13:35SPEAKERWe can never talk about the video game control again.
1:13:37SPEAKER- Oh dude, what is this?
1:13:40SPEAKERThere appears to be a meta application called Nur Launcher.
1:13:46SPEAKER- What?
1:13:47SPEAKER- On Chocolaty, it's not loading.
1:13:48SPEAKERThere it goes.
1:13:49SPEAKERVery slowly.
1:13:52SPEAKERLet's see, does this do exactly what it sounds like?
1:13:54SPEAKER- Control your monitor.
1:13:57SPEAKER- Dude, holy shit.
1:13:58SPEAKERHoly shit, who made this?
1:13:59SPEAKERIs this by Nursoft?
1:14:01SPEAKER- It's gotta be.
1:14:02SPEAKER- This is literally a like meta package launcher
1:14:04SPEAKERof all the Nursoft utilities in one utility.
1:14:07SPEAKERWhat the fuck?
1:14:09SPEAKERNur Launcher is a package
1:14:10SPEAKERof more than 180 portable freeware utilities for Windows.
1:14:14SPEAKERAll of them developed by Nursoft.
1:14:15SPEAKERI have to get this.
1:14:16SPEAKERWe have to end this podcast.
1:14:18SPEAKERI have got to install this.
1:14:19SPEAKERSo I have all the Nursoft.
1:14:21SPEAKER- Brad, this is the most fitting end for this podcast
1:14:25SPEAKERwe can possibly do.
1:14:26SPEAKER- I'm very excited right now.
1:14:27SPEAKER- What do you get rid of when you install?
1:14:29SPEAKERI always turn off Cortana immediately.
1:14:32SPEAKER- Well, they made that a lot harder.
1:14:33SPEAKERYou have to dig that out of the registry now, don't you?
1:14:35SPEAKER- What, you can't just right click and say,
1:14:36SPEAKERyo, don't listen to me?
1:14:38SPEAKER- After the last couple of major feature updates, yes.
1:14:40SPEAKERIt's a lot harder to, you can hide Cortana,
1:14:43SPEAKERbut you're not fully gutting it
1:14:44SPEAKERfrom the system like you used to.
1:14:45SPEAKER- Oh, I don't care about it.
1:14:46SPEAKERLook, I don't need it to be fully gutted.
1:14:48SPEAKERI just want to not accidentally say something.
1:14:49SPEAKER- Oh, yeah, yeah.
1:14:50SPEAKER- Sounds like Cortana and have it wake up.
1:14:52SPEAKER- I definitely like disable all of the UI for it
1:14:54SPEAKERas much as possible.
1:14:56SPEAKER- I find the games that Microsoft installs
1:14:59SPEAKERwith Windows to be offensive.
1:15:01SPEAKER- Yes, going through the start menu
1:15:02SPEAKERand right click on installing all the crap,
1:15:05SPEAKERthe candy crushes and stuff, kind of a bummer.
1:15:09SPEAKERI can't think of a lot else though.
1:15:11SPEAKERLike a stock Windows install
1:15:12SPEAKERis not that offensive these days.
1:15:15SPEAKER- Yeah, once you get rid of the candy crushes
1:15:16SPEAKERof the world, it's fine.
1:15:18SPEAKER- Unless there's something I'm not thinking of,
1:15:19SPEAKERbut again, I am quite looking forward to that.
1:15:23SPEAKERJune 24th stream.
1:15:24SPEAKERI really want to know what's going on there.
1:15:26SPEAKER- Have you seen these mock-ups
1:15:27SPEAKERof the Windows 10X UI overhaul?
1:15:31SPEAKER- Those are, look.
1:15:32SPEAKER- The thing I'm really worried about right now
1:15:34SPEAKERis there is a mock-up of a start menu
1:15:36SPEAKERor a taskbar floating around
1:15:37SPEAKERwhere all of the icons are in the middle of the taskbar.
1:15:40SPEAKERThey emanate from the middle of the taskbar
1:15:41SPEAKERrather than starting on.
1:15:43SPEAKER- That seems fine.
1:15:44SPEAKER- I don't know, man.
1:15:46SPEAKERI fear change.
1:15:47SPEAKER- Those are always fake.
1:15:49SPEAKER- Okay.
1:15:50SPEAKER- I've never, I'm trying to think.
1:15:55SPEAKER- Well, usually everybody knows what the UI looks like
1:15:57SPEAKERbecause they do pretty good pre-release stuff
1:16:00SPEAKERand they do like, they dog food the alphas
1:16:02SPEAKERand stuff internally for a while.
1:16:03SPEAKER- I'm sure, I'm sorry.
1:16:04SPEAKERThey what? The alphas?
1:16:05SPEAKER- They dog food them.
1:16:06SPEAKERThey eat their own dog food.
1:16:08SPEAKER- Oh, that's an amazing term.
1:16:11SPEAKER- We've talked about this before.
1:16:13SPEAKER- I don't think so.
1:16:14SPEAKER- Oh, really?
1:16:14SPEAKER- I don't think so.
1:16:16SPEAKERThat's my favorite thing I have learned today.
1:16:19SPEAKER- Yeah, so they do dog food builds and those always leak.
1:16:23SPEAKERSo then they stopped changing the UI
1:16:25SPEAKERfor the pre-alpha builds.
1:16:27SPEAKERSo my guess is that a very limited number of people know
1:16:30SPEAKERwhat major UX changes they're going to do
1:16:34SPEAKERfor this at this point.
1:16:35SPEAKERAnd everything we're seeing is like people
1:16:37SPEAKERwho are enthusiasts making things up, which is fine.
1:16:39SPEAKERI like that.
1:16:40SPEAKERI think it's a fun exercise.
1:16:41SPEAKER- Hey, everybody's excited about Windows.
1:16:43SPEAKER- I am so stoked to like,
1:16:48SPEAKERlike I just want to know what's big and important enough
1:16:52SPEAKERthat they're considering throwing out the,
1:16:54SPEAKERhey, we're doing Windows as a service,
1:16:56SPEAKERthis is the last Windows you ever need.
1:16:58SPEAKER- Yeah, well, it could be an evolution of that.
1:16:59SPEAKERLike that base could remain with some new stuff.
1:17:03SPEAKER- I mean, look, like the best case for me
1:17:07SPEAKERis that they're saying, yo, we want to get rid of,
1:17:11SPEAKERlike we feel like the legacy infrastructure
1:17:14SPEAKERis holding us back.
1:17:14SPEAKERSo Windows 10 is the one going forward for people
1:17:17SPEAKERwho want legacy infrastructure.
1:17:19SPEAKERAnd then this one is like, let's go buck wild
1:17:21SPEAKERand make a modern ass Windows
1:17:24SPEAKERthat works for modern computers.
1:17:25SPEAKERAnd, but I mean, it could also be some server bullshit.
1:17:29SPEAKERWho knows, like it could be anything.
1:17:30SPEAKER- It sounds fairly consumer facing
1:17:32SPEAKERjust from the way they've been presenting it.
1:17:33SPEAKERBut what you just described,
1:17:34SPEAKERI think is the pie in the sky potential outcome
1:17:36SPEAKERis that you've seen some suggestions here and there
1:17:39SPEAKERof like a new model for Windows
1:17:42SPEAKERwhere like all applications are virtualized
1:17:44SPEAKERand architecture, they're kind of independent
1:17:46SPEAKERof architecture.
1:17:47SPEAKER- Isn't that what they did on the Xbox One though?
1:17:49SPEAKER- They were running a hypervisor on there.
1:17:52SPEAKERThat was the dream.
1:17:52SPEAKERI don't know that it panned out super well,
1:17:54SPEAKERbut like I think the idea here was like,
1:17:56SPEAKERlike this would be a, basically a sandbox
1:17:59SPEAKERor each app would be sandboxed and virtualized.
1:18:01SPEAKER- Yeah, Windows is a hypervisor.
1:18:03SPEAKER- Yes, exactly, exactly.
1:18:04SPEAKER- At that point, all of the apps run in Windows API VMs
1:18:08SPEAKERand like, that sounds really good.
1:18:10SPEAKER- And that frees you of architecture restraints
1:18:11SPEAKERand stuff like that, right?
1:18:13SPEAKER- Well. - To some degree.
1:18:15SPEAKER- I mean, more than that, you end up with a robustness.
1:18:18SPEAKERThe idea is that you get a robust,
1:18:20SPEAKERa more robust infrastructure so that like,
1:18:22SPEAKERit's impossible at that point for, you know,
1:18:26SPEAKERa blue screen to come because of something an app does,
1:18:28SPEAKERbecause the worst thing that happens is its VM just reboots.
1:18:31SPEAKERAnd you end up also getting things like the Xbox,
1:18:33SPEAKERthe things like the Xbox Series S and X do really well,
1:18:36SPEAKERwhere you get like state saving so that when you open Word,
1:18:40SPEAKERit opens exactly back where you started.
1:18:41SPEAKERIt doesn't restart and you have that stupid,
1:18:43SPEAKERlike here's how to use Word screen.
1:18:45SPEAKER- Right.
1:18:46SPEAKER- So yeah, like I would love to never see
1:18:49SPEAKERthe Photoshop boot screen again.
1:18:51SPEAKERThat would be amazing.
1:18:53SPEAKER- And on the other hand,
1:18:54SPEAKERdid you really want to leave the same instance
1:18:56SPEAKERof Photoshop running for months at a time?
1:18:58SPEAKER- Well, I mean, you can always force it to restart, right?
1:19:02SPEAKERYou can always exit it.
1:19:04SPEAKER- Pick your poison here.
1:19:05SPEAKER- Well, but I'm just saying like the number,
1:19:07SPEAKERthe amount of time I spend, it's like, it's like,
1:19:10SPEAKERyeah, Animal Crossing.
1:19:11SPEAKERI don't want to ever wait for Animal Crossing
1:19:12SPEAKERto launch again.
1:19:13SPEAKERIt takes forever.
1:19:14SPEAKERIf I could just have that start right where I left,
1:19:16SPEAKERthat would be dope.
1:19:18SPEAKER- Don't bring Nintendo into this.
1:19:19SPEAKERWe'll be here all day.
1:19:21SPEAKER- This is the part of the show where,
1:19:23SPEAKERas always we thank our wonderful TechPod patrons
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1:19:31SPEAKERand you're just hanging out on the Discord,
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1:19:35SPEAKERin the last month in the Discord.
1:19:36SPEAKERPeople are like, we've had a lot of new people come in.
1:19:41SPEAKERIt's a constant, General's always popping.
1:19:45SPEAKER- Yes, dude, did you see the shocking expose
1:19:48SPEAKERon office chair roller blade wheels yesterday?
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1:19:54SPEAKERwhere people bought a bunch of different roller blade wheels
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1:20:06SPEAKERWe had some mechanical engineer types in the Discord
1:20:09SPEAKERassessing the designs they were looking at.
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1:20:17SPEAKER- My favorite was a couple of weeks ago
1:20:19SPEAKERafter the car episode when we were talking,
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1:20:24SPEAKERon a V8 or V6 or V4 engine changes over time.
1:20:30SPEAKERAnd there was like a two hour long conversation
1:20:32SPEAKERin this week's episode where people were creating pistons
1:20:37SPEAKERwith angled cams in CAD and modeling the torque
1:20:43SPEAKERat different heights of the piston.
1:20:45SPEAKERIt was fascinating.
1:20:46SPEAKERI understand how that works so much better now
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1:20:56SPEAKERbut I think that's in terms of expertise per capita,
1:21:00SPEAKERI think our Discord is up there.
1:21:01SPEAKER- We, I am proud to be part of this community, so.
1:21:05SPEAKER- We talked about it a little bit
1:21:06SPEAKERin the patron ep the other day,
1:21:08SPEAKERbut I've been fiddling a little bit
1:21:09SPEAKERwith tone mapping HDR video to SDR manually,
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1:21:15SPEAKER- It sucks. - It's hard.
1:21:16SPEAKER- Yeah. - It's very hard.
1:21:17SPEAKERBut I went on there asking questions about that
1:21:19SPEAKERand immediately like two different people that work in like,
1:21:22SPEAKERlike video engineering, color, hang on,
1:21:24SPEAKERcolor timing specialists. - Yes, yeah.
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1:21:31SPEAKERHe's like, "Hey, I do that stuff.
1:21:32SPEAKER"I work with Dolby Vision and HDR 10 all the time.
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1:22:05SPEAKER- And I guess that'll do it for us this week, Brad.
1:22:08SPEAKER- Yep, can't wait to go get this reinstall started,
1:22:10SPEAKERreinstall a Palooza, here we go.
1:22:12SPEAKER- Are you gonna do it this weekend, really?
1:22:13SPEAKER- I don't know, I cannot afford to downtime right now.
1:22:16SPEAKER- I don't know when I'm gonna have time, but I think-
1:22:18SPEAKER- It's gonna be a while.
1:22:19SPEAKER- I think I have to buy a new SSD
1:22:21SPEAKERso I can like have an emergency fall back
1:22:23SPEAKERif it takes too long.
1:22:24SPEAKER- Oh, that's a good idea.
1:22:25SPEAKERThink about that.
1:22:26SPEAKER- Yeah, you know, spend money to make money, Brad.
1:22:28SPEAKERThat's how this works.
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