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48: Grip Is Good

2020-08-16 · 1:17:14

00:00SPEAKERBrad?

00:00SPEAKER- Yes?

00:02SPEAKER- Something wonderful has happened in my neighborhood

00:04SPEAKERall summer long.

00:05SPEAKER- God, I didn't know that wonderful things

00:07SPEAKERcould still happen, period.

00:09SPEAKERSo how lucky for your neighborhood, what's up?

00:11SPEAKER- Every Tuesday and every Thursday,

00:14SPEAKERMr. Softy comes to town.

00:16SPEAKER- What?

00:17SPEAKER- Yes, he's out, he's about, he rolls around,

00:20SPEAKERhe wears a mask and gloves now,

00:22SPEAKERand you have to stay socially distant

00:23SPEAKERwhen you're waiting in line,

00:24SPEAKERbut you can get a soft serve cone dipped in chocolate,

00:27SPEAKERmaybe rolled in Oreos or some sprinkles

00:29SPEAKERor some nonsense like that.

00:30SPEAKERIt's delicious.

00:31SPEAKER- Yeah, what does he play?

00:32SPEAKERWhat's his, how does he foretell his coming?

00:35SPEAKERDid you record it?

00:37SPEAKER- No, no, there's an app, hold on.

00:39SPEAKER- I saw you reach for your phone,

00:40SPEAKERI was like, of course,

00:41SPEAKERwe'll record the ice cream truck jingle.

00:42SPEAKER(phone ringing)

00:43SPEAKERWow, that's classic.

00:46SPEAKER- Yeah, it's good.

00:46SPEAKER- I mean, I wouldn't know,

00:47SPEAKERI lived just a bit too much in the boonies

00:50SPEAKERto ever experience an ice cream truck myself

00:52SPEAKERback in the day, but.

00:53SPEAKER- Dude, this is the first time

00:54SPEAKERI've ever seen an ice cream truck.

00:56SPEAKER- God, like actually. - 'Cause I lived

00:56SPEAKERin the country too.

00:57SPEAKER- Yeah, like could you guys get pizza delivery?

00:59SPEAKERLike that was also, like having pizza delivered

01:02SPEAKERwas like my mind blowing experience

01:03SPEAKERwhen I moved to an urban area

01:05SPEAKER'cause it was impossible back then.

01:07SPEAKER- When I went to college and I,

01:10SPEAKERlike they had, Papa John's put a stack of $5.99,

01:14SPEAKERunnumbered coupons on the, like the check-in board

01:19SPEAKERand my roommate stole the entire stack of them.

01:22SPEAKERAnd then he took them to the print shop

01:24SPEAKERand had them copied because there was no like code on them.

01:27SPEAKER- Wow.

01:28SPEAKER- So I ate $5.99 large one topping pizzas

01:31SPEAKERfrom Papa John's for a really long time.

01:33SPEAKERBut the important thing about the story

01:35SPEAKERisn't the fantastic deal or the terrible pizza.

01:38SPEAKERIt's that when I ordered the pizza the first time

01:41SPEAKERand they said, "Do you want pickup or delivery?"

01:43SPEAKERI said, "Pickup," because it never even occurred to me

01:45SPEAKERthat they would deliver to my dorm.

01:47SPEAKER- The word delivery just went in one ear and out the other.

01:49SPEAKER- What does delivery mean?

01:51SPEAKERThat's impossible.

01:52SPEAKERNo one would possibly bring a pizza to your house.

01:54SPEAKERThat's bad. - Something they do

01:55SPEAKERin the land of gumdrops and rainbows.

01:57SPEAKER- Yeah, we had to drive to the little La Petite Cesar

02:00SPEAKERif we wanted a pizza when I was a child.

02:02SPEAKERThat was the nearest pizza joint.

02:04SPEAKER- That doesn't sound Italian.

02:05SPEAKER- It was the Little Caesars.

02:07SPEAKER(upbeat music)

02:27SPEAKER(upbeat music continues)

02:39SPEAKER- Welcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod.

02:42SPEAKERI'm Will.

02:43SPEAKER- I'm Brad. Thanks for having me.

02:43SPEAKEROh, wait a minute.

02:44SPEAKER- Hey, it's good to have you here, Brad.

02:45SPEAKERHow's everything going with you?

02:46SPEAKER- I haven't used that one in a while.

02:48SPEAKERThat's fine. It's getting hot.

02:50SPEAKER- Yeah.

02:51SPEAKER- So you know that I'm really here and ready to talk

02:53SPEAKERwhen the topic at hand is the weather.

02:56SPEAKERLook, on the other podcast I do,

02:57SPEAKERthe lead topic is usually how fucking cold it is

03:00SPEAKERin the shop.

03:01SPEAKERSo this is nice.

03:02SPEAKERThis is a nice change.

03:03SPEAKER- I mean, you know, we like to dig deep

03:05SPEAKERon this podcast, right?

03:06SPEAKERAnd I think I've mentioned in the past

03:08SPEAKERthat the cognitive effects, the effects on mood

03:13SPEAKERof being both trapped in the house for weeks

03:16SPEAKERand also utterly without sunshine

03:20SPEAKERfor a period of, let's say, six to eight weeks.

03:23SPEAKER- 150 days.

03:24SPEAKER- Those effects have been profound.

03:26SPEAKERLike, I don't know.

03:27SPEAKERI mean, I think it might be as bad or worse where you are,

03:29SPEAKERright? We've talked about it pretty recently,

03:30SPEAKERbut like literal days, days and days of nothing but fog,

03:35SPEAKERnothing but just an endless white fugue out the window.

03:39SPEAKER- My floors have been clammy, yes.

03:41SPEAKERNow it's hot and humid here,

03:43SPEAKERwhich is a refreshing change from cold and humid.

03:46SPEAKER- I woke up this morning and there was sun

03:48SPEAKERcoming through the windows and I almost fell to my knees.

03:50SPEAKERI was so excited.

03:52SPEAKER- So I went out last night.

03:53SPEAKERWe're recording this on Thursday, I think.

03:55SPEAKERAnd the Perseid meteor showers are going.

03:58SPEAKERThey'll still be going, I think, by the time people hear this

04:00SPEAKERbut they'll be fading by then

04:02SPEAKERand the moon will be up at a weird time.

04:03SPEAKERBut I walked out at like midnight

04:05SPEAKERas I was getting ready to go to bed and I was like,

04:06SPEAKER"Oh shit, it's clear for the first time since this started.

04:09SPEAKER"I gotta go wake up the kid

04:10SPEAKER"and we gotta go out in the backyard

04:12SPEAKER"and bundle up and, you know, watch some meteor showers."

04:15SPEAKERSo we did, it was really nice.

04:16SPEAKER- It was a good time.

04:17SPEAKER- Yeah, it was great.

04:17SPEAKER- What was the term Perseid refer to?

04:19SPEAKERIs that the specific cluster of celestial objects

04:22SPEAKERthat are passing by? - Oh, I'm glad you asked.

04:25SPEAKERI looked this up yesterday in case a seven-year-old asked

04:27SPEAKERand she never did.

04:27SPEAKERSo here you are.

04:29SPEAKER- I am here, I am always, as always,

04:31SPEAKERhere to fill the role of a seven-year-old.

04:34SPEAKER- Look, if you can't ask questions,

04:36SPEAKERthen what is the point of even doing a podcast

04:39SPEAKERfor either of us?

04:42SPEAKERThe Perseid refers to the constellation

04:44SPEAKERfrom whence the meteors appear to originate in the sky.

04:49SPEAKERSo they streak across the whole sky in many cases.

04:52SPEAKERWe saw a couple of really bright ones last night.

04:54SPEAKERIt was really good.

04:54SPEAKER- I'm not trying to nitpick.

04:55SPEAKERI'm just trying to get my terminology straight,

04:57SPEAKERbut are they, they're not meteors

04:58SPEAKERuntil they enter the atmosphere, correct?

05:00SPEAKER- I think they're meteors until they enter the atmosphere

05:02SPEAKERand then they're meteorites

05:03SPEAKERonce they enter the atmosphere.

05:05SPEAKER- Is that right?

05:06SPEAKER- Maybe it's meteorites when they hit the ground.

05:07SPEAKERI don't know. - That's what I thought.

05:09SPEAKER- But all I know is the stalagmite,

05:10SPEAKER'cause it has the humps and the M is the bottom one

05:13SPEAKERand the stalactite comes down from the ceiling.

05:15SPEAKER- Is that your mnemonic for that one?

05:16SPEAKER- That's my mnemonic for that one, yeah.

05:18SPEAKER- Mine is that stalactites have to cling very tightly

05:21SPEAKERto the ceiling to not fall.

05:23SPEAKER- Oh, I think the humps are better.

05:25SPEAKERThey bring all the stalactites to the yard.

05:27SPEAKER- Let's just agree to disagree on this one.

05:30SPEAKERWhatever remembers it for you.

05:34SPEAKER- Brad, what are we talking about this week?

05:36SPEAKER- Stuff and things, hardware.

05:39SPEAKER- Hardware.

05:40SPEAKER- We're here to talk about hardware.

05:41SPEAKERWell, more specifically, that's a pretty broad category.

05:44SPEAKER- Yeah, a few weeks ago,

05:46SPEAKERwe did a bunch of software unitaskers,

05:47SPEAKERlike the one-off programs that we find really useful

05:50SPEAKERand got a ton, ton of good suggestions from the audience.

05:54SPEAKER- I was trying to avoid using the word unitasker,

05:56SPEAKERbut I couldn't come up with anything else.

05:57SPEAKER- I know, sometimes you have to use the shorthand.

06:00SPEAKER- Yes.

06:00SPEAKER- It's a venerable term that we all should,

06:04SPEAKERI can't remember the other word

06:05SPEAKERthat we're never allowed to use in reviews.

06:06SPEAKERAnyway.

06:07SPEAKER- Mixed bag.

06:08SPEAKER- Yeah, it's a mixed bag.

06:10SPEAKERWe're gonna talk about the kind of single-use,

06:13SPEAKERone-off tools that are hardware

06:15SPEAKERthat we find useful in our day-to-day life.

06:17SPEAKERAnd we would love to hear what yours are

06:19SPEAKERafter you hear ours.

06:19SPEAKERSo get your emailing fingers ready, I guess.

06:23SPEAKER- Totally.

06:24SPEAKERYeah, honestly, I think the most gratifying thing

06:27SPEAKERcoming out of that episode

06:28SPEAKERwas seeing people get super excited

06:30SPEAKERabout stuff that we had suggested

06:33SPEAKERand talking about how it had made their lives better.

06:35SPEAKER- There's a list on our Wiki of things that we suggested

06:37SPEAKERand then the other things that people suggested as well.

06:40SPEAKERAlso, we have a Wiki now.

06:41SPEAKER- Yes, we do.

06:42SPEAKERI don't know why, but for some reason,

06:44SPEAKERwhen I brought my list of that episode,

06:45SPEAKERI was like, ah, this is what I came up with,

06:47SPEAKERbut I'm sure everybody knows about all of these,

06:48SPEAKERbut it turned out to totally not be the case.

06:50SPEAKER- No, nobody knows about any of this stuff

06:52SPEAKER'cause you just use it and you don't ever think about it.

06:54SPEAKERAnd it turns out if you share the knowledge, it'll be good.

06:56SPEAKER- Special shout out to Nursoft coming out of that episode.

07:00SPEAKER- Yeah.

07:01SPEAKER- Nur has become like a superstar of the TechPod Discord.

07:04SPEAKER- Oh, is he in there?

07:05SPEAKER- No, no, no, no.

07:06SPEAKERGod, I wish.

07:07SPEAKERIn fact, shout out to Nur.

07:09SPEAKERAfter the probably fifth or sixth time this happened,

07:11SPEAKERI thought, you know what?

07:12SPEAKERWe should just reach out to him and get him on this Discord.

07:14SPEAKERAnd then I was like, you know what?

07:15SPEAKERWe should reach out to him and get him on this podcast.

07:18SPEAKER- Yes.

07:19SPEAKER- Which I should probably,

07:20SPEAKERwe should probably run by him before I mentioned it in public

07:21SPEAKERbut people just keep finding utilities that he's written

07:25SPEAKERbecause there are literally dozens of them.

07:27SPEAKERLike, I feel like every other time somebody asks

07:29SPEAKERhow to do something on that server at this point,

07:32SPEAKERsomebody pops up with a Nursoft utility, including me.

07:35SPEAKERLike I was trying to,

07:36SPEAKERI was trying to dump the EDID from my monitor.

07:39SPEAKERIt's the thing that negotiates HDMI hand shaking.

07:41SPEAKER- Oh yeah.

07:43SPEAKERAnd I've used that tool before.

07:45SPEAKER- Well, so he actually has two.

07:47SPEAKER- Oh, I didn't know that.

07:48SPEAKER- There's two different utilities

07:49SPEAKERthat can both dump EDIDs for monitors.

07:52SPEAKER- Wow, I always call those EDIDs.

07:53SPEAKER- Okay, let's see.

07:54SPEAKER- Yeah.

07:55SPEAKER- Sounds like a species of seasonal insect.

07:58SPEAKER- It's like some sort of aphid.

07:59SPEAKER- Oh yeah, the EDIDs.

08:00SPEAKER- Small aphid-like thing.

08:01SPEAKER- Oh yeah, some of the EDIDs are out.

08:02SPEAKERThis is the EDIDs.

08:03SPEAKER- I just wiped out my cherry trees this year.

08:04SPEAKERIt's real bad.

08:05SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway.

08:06SPEAKER- I like those EDIDs.

08:07SPEAKERAnyway, yeah, yeah.

08:08SPEAKERSo you want to dig into your, dig in first?

08:11SPEAKER- Sure, yeah.

08:12SPEAKER- What do you got?

08:13SPEAKER- The first thing that came to mind

08:14SPEAKERis something I have actually been testing.

08:16SPEAKERCan I use that term here?

08:18SPEAKEREvaluating.

08:19SPEAKER- No, it's a patent pending test.

08:20SPEAKERWe emailed it to ourselves like 10, 12 years ago.

08:22SPEAKER- Copyrighted word.

08:24SPEAKERI've been evaluating something called

08:26SPEAKERthe Genki Covert Dock,

08:28SPEAKERwhich full disclosure was sent to me

08:30SPEAKERby the people who make it.

08:31SPEAKER- Is that some spy stuff?

08:33SPEAKER- Not really, it's pretty friendly actually.

08:36SPEAKERIt's got pretty colorful, friendly-looking packaging.

08:40SPEAKER- Oh, is this that little Switch HDMI duper

08:43SPEAKERthat's all in one?

08:44SPEAKER- Yes, I guess this is a bonafide duper.

08:46SPEAKERI never thought about that.

08:47SPEAKER- I want to, yeah.

08:48SPEAKERLike I saw this and I was like,

08:49SPEAKERthis is too good to be true.

08:50SPEAKER'Cause I bought an extra $80 Switch dock

08:53SPEAKERso I could capture my Switch easily.

08:55SPEAKER- Wait, like the Nintendo brand?

08:56SPEAKER- Yeah, and also plug into the TV.

08:58SPEAKER- Let me check.

09:00SPEAKERYes, I too have had my eye on this thing forever

09:03SPEAKERbecause they kick-started it.

09:05SPEAKERThis Kickstarter.

09:06SPEAKER- It was like two years ago, wasn't it?

09:07SPEAKER- Put dates on their campaigns.

09:11SPEAKER- Look for the first post update and you'll get right here.

09:14SPEAKERAm I going to have to scroll backwards to figure this out?

09:17SPEAKERProbably.

09:18SPEAKERIt's been at least a year, year and a half,

09:20SPEAKERmaybe two years, something like that.

09:23SPEAKER- Oh, that's awesome.

09:25SPEAKERWell, 'cause like, 'cause the challenge with the Switch-

09:28SPEAKER- God, maybe it hasn't been as long as I thought.

09:30SPEAKERI guess it was last, it was about a year ago actually.

09:32SPEAKERAnyway.

09:33SPEAKER- Time is ineffable, Brad.

09:36SPEAKER- So yeah, it was kick-started

09:37SPEAKERand I guess it's been going out to Kickstarter backers

09:39SPEAKERfor the last handful of months.

09:40SPEAKERAlthough obviously the pandemic has complicated that

09:42SPEAKERquite a bit, but it just started shipping to like retail

09:45SPEAKERfor everybody so you can just buy it.

09:48SPEAKER- Nice.

09:49SPEAKER- But yeah, so it's a little pricey, it's $74.99,

09:51SPEAKERbut it basically looks like, you know,

09:54SPEAKERit's roughly the size of like an iPad charger,

09:55SPEAKERmaybe a little bit bigger.

09:56SPEAKER- Wow.

09:57SPEAKERYeah, it's like a big power brick.

09:59SPEAKER- Same fold-out plug as like an iPad charger,

10:02SPEAKERexcept it has a USB-C power delivery port,

10:06SPEAKERa USB-A 3.1 port and an HDMI port.

10:09SPEAKER- Well, hold on.

10:10SPEAKERSo where did the Switch plugs into the USB-C port?

10:12SPEAKER- Yes.

10:13SPEAKERCause you know, if you look at the bottom of your Switch,

10:14SPEAKERthat's just a USB-C port.

10:15SPEAKER- Yeah, so you get a double-ended USB-C.

10:18SPEAKERDoes it have to be a special USB-C cable or does anyone?

10:20SPEAKER- Wow, see, this is why I do this podcast with you

10:22SPEAKERbecause you know all of the relevant nitty gritty

10:25SPEAKERto ask about.

10:26SPEAKERYes, it has to be a, this is the current thought on Reddit

10:32SPEAKERand then like Nintendo communities.

10:33SPEAKERThey say it has to be a USB 3.1 cable.

10:38SPEAKER- Yeah, that makes sense.

10:39SPEAKER- But what I've, and this is somewhat apocryphal,

10:41SPEAKERbut what I've been seeing on Reddit

10:42SPEAKERis that it specifically has to be a USB-C 3.1 Gen 1 cable.

10:48SPEAKER- Oh, okay.

10:49SPEAKER- Because there are reports of people buying Gen 2 cables

10:51SPEAKERand saying that they don't work.

10:52SPEAKERAnd it sounds like that may be the fault of the Switch

10:54SPEAKERand not the dock, not the COVID docking.

10:56SPEAKER- It's shocking that Nintendo would jack up

10:58SPEAKERthe USB implementation.

10:59SPEAKER- You think?

11:00SPEAKER- This is my surprised face.

11:02SPEAKER- Yeah, like, you know,

11:02SPEAKERthat's putting the cart before the horse a little bit,

11:04SPEAKERbut the Inky People, Human Things is the name of the company

11:08SPEAKERthat makes this thing.

11:10SPEAKERLike they themselves say like,

11:11SPEAKERhey, please use the cable that it comes with

11:13SPEAKERif at all possible.

11:14SPEAKERAnd if you have to buy another USB-C cable,

11:16SPEAKERplease don't buy a cheap one.

11:18SPEAKER- Yeah.

11:19SPEAKER- 'Cause like the whole pitch for this thing off the bat was,

11:22SPEAKERyou remember when the third-party docks

11:24SPEAKERfirst started coming out for the Switch?

11:26SPEAKERLike what?

11:26SPEAKER- Yeah, they bricked a bunch of Switches.

11:28SPEAKER- Yeah, there were like Nyko and some other companies

11:30SPEAKERwere making third-party docks

11:31SPEAKERthat were straight up frying Switches.

11:33SPEAKERAnd it seems like, like you said,

11:35SPEAKERNintendo does a bunch of non-standard power stuff

11:37SPEAKERwith the Switch.

11:38SPEAKERLike it's, people didn't figure out

11:41SPEAKERwhat weird out of spec stuff the Switch was looking for.

11:44SPEAKERAnd they just kind of made assumptions and that was bad.

11:47SPEAKERAnyway, these people will put out a bunch of information

11:49SPEAKERabout all the engineering they did

11:50SPEAKERto kind of reverse engineer what the Switch wants

11:53SPEAKERand make sure that they're matching that.

11:55SPEAKER- They just took apart a bunch of docks

11:56SPEAKERand then jammed them into this little thing.

11:58SPEAKER- That's exactly right.

11:59SPEAKER- Yeah.

12:00SPEAKER- That has to be what they did.

12:00SPEAKER- They didn't actually do that.

12:01SPEAKER- No, this thing is quite small.

12:05SPEAKERBut it works as expected, basically, so far.

12:09SPEAKERI tried it, oh, go ahead.

12:11SPEAKER- Oh, does it do all the,

12:12SPEAKERlike it does all the mode switching and stuff

12:14SPEAKERthat the Switch does?

12:15SPEAKER- Yeah, so-

12:15SPEAKER- So you're running at 1080p with that thing plugged in?

12:18SPEAKER- Yeah, so if you just plug the USB-C in,

12:21SPEAKERit will just charge.

12:23SPEAKERWhen you plug an HDMI in,

12:24SPEAKERit detects that there's now video present

12:26SPEAKERand then it starts spitting out video.

12:27SPEAKERSo you can use it. - That's awesome.

12:28SPEAKER- So you can use it as a USB-C charger for the Switch

12:30SPEAKERand also for video out at the same time.

12:34SPEAKER- And I suppose you plug stuff into the USB-A port

12:37SPEAKERfor like, if you want a controller hard-wired in,

12:39SPEAKERsomething like that?

12:40SPEAKER- Yeah, so you use controller.

12:41SPEAKERI actually just, right before this podcast I tested,

12:43SPEAKERyou can use a USB-A ethernet adapter.

12:46SPEAKER- Oh, okay.

12:47SPEAKER- So I had video coming out of this thing

12:49SPEAKERand a wired internet connection into the Switch

12:51SPEAKERthrough the dock.

12:52SPEAKER- Bananas.

12:53SPEAKERI suppose you can plug a hub in if you want to do like-

12:55SPEAKER- Yes, yeah, they do say you could use a hub

12:57SPEAKERto get more USB connections if you wanted to.

13:00SPEAKERIt also does, it'll handle video for anything

13:02SPEAKERthat does display port over USB-C.

13:03SPEAKERSo I just- - Oh, so you do your laptop,

13:06SPEAKERpresumably. - I need to test the laptop.

13:07SPEAKERI have not done that yet,

13:08SPEAKERbut I did plug my girlfriend's iPad Pro into this thing

13:12SPEAKERand it spits right out to the TV, just like a Switch would.

13:15SPEAKER- Did you know, do you know if it does,

13:18SPEAKERdoes it support power profiles that the Switch doesn't,

13:20SPEAKERor does it only support the weird 29-watt one?

13:24SPEAKER- That's a good question.

13:26SPEAKERThey probably, they may have that information

13:27SPEAKERon their website.

13:28SPEAKERThey do go into some pretty decent detail about this stuff.

13:31SPEAKER- That's like a weird deep cut.

13:33SPEAKERI wouldn't expect- - Can you give an example

13:34SPEAKERof something else they would be looking for?

13:35SPEAKER- Well, so like the iPad supports

13:37SPEAKERa bazillion different profiles.

13:38SPEAKERLike the Switch is weird in that it only supports

13:40SPEAKERone USB 3.1 power profile.

13:45SPEAKER- Okay.

13:45SPEAKER- Remember, so like there's 16-watts, 29-watts,

13:49SPEAKER40s, 65-watts, all the way up to, you know,

13:52SPEAKERlike what would be, like your laptop,

13:55SPEAKERif you have a MacBook that is powered by USB-C,

13:57SPEAKERit's a 65-watt power source probably, so.

14:01SPEAKER- I haven't seen any specific language

14:03SPEAKERabout other power profiles, but it's possible.

14:05SPEAKERI mean, it will charge those devices.

14:06SPEAKERLike maybe just, I guess what you're saying is,

14:09SPEAKERif it doesn't support those profiles,

14:10SPEAKERit may not charge optimally.

14:12SPEAKERIs that the situation?

14:13SPEAKER- Yeah, so the way that the three stuff works is it,

14:17SPEAKERremember it negotiates,

14:18SPEAKERwe talked about this in the USB power episode, I think,

14:20SPEAKERbut it negotiates the highest rate that they both support.

14:23SPEAKERAnd if it doesn't find one,

14:24SPEAKERthen it'll fall back on the USB 2, you know,

14:27SPEAKERthe old school power charging.

14:29SPEAKER- I am embarrassed to admit that my retention rate

14:31SPEAKERfor the stuff we talked about that in that USB power episode

14:34SPEAKERis pretty low. - I feel like that was

14:35SPEAKERin like April.

14:36SPEAKER- It's pretty low.

14:37SPEAKER- It might as well has been a hundred years ago.

14:38SPEAKER- Yeah.

14:40SPEAKER- So. - It sounds awesome.

14:41SPEAKER- It is awesome.

14:42SPEAKERLike I have, and we'll get to this

14:43SPEAKERin some other stuff I want to talk about.

14:44SPEAKERI have a minor obsession with consolidating

14:48SPEAKERthe types of electronics that you carry around with you.

14:50SPEAKER- Yeah, you're an EDC guy.

14:53SPEAKER- Wait, what is that?

14:54SPEAKER- Everyday carry.

14:54SPEAKER- Is that a good thing?

14:55SPEAKEROh God, really?

14:56SPEAKER- Yeah, you're one of those guys.

14:57SPEAKER- Oh boy.

14:58SPEAKER- If you have an obsession

14:59SPEAKERwith consolidating the gear you carry around.

15:01SPEAKER- Am I going to have to go sign up for a subreddit

15:03SPEAKERbecause of this?

15:03SPEAKER- Do you have a weird wallet?

15:04SPEAKERLike is your wallet made of Kevlar

15:05SPEAKERand does it fold in weird ways or something?

15:07SPEAKER- Oh, we should not get into my wallet.

15:08SPEAKER- Wait, do you have a Castanza wallet?

15:10SPEAKERDo you have a soup wallet?

15:11SPEAKER- Not exactly.

15:12SPEAKER- Brad, tell me you don't have a soup wallet.

15:13SPEAKER- Well, what is the technical definition of a soup wallet?

15:16SPEAKER- Do you remember Kessler's wallet?

15:17SPEAKER- Oh, absolutely.

15:18SPEAKERBut I don't remember what exactly defined it as a soup wallet.

15:21SPEAKER- Bulging, nondescript and amorphous.

15:25SPEAKER- No, it's like wallet shaped.

15:26SPEAKERLike it is, let's say that it's retained its shape

15:29SPEAKERpretty well over the last 24 years that I've been using it.

15:32SPEAKER- Holy shit, you have a 24 year old wallet?

15:35SPEAKER- I've been using the same wallet

15:36SPEAKERsince junior year of high school.

15:38SPEAKER(laughing)

15:39SPEAKER- Is it Velcro?

15:40SPEAKER- No, it's leather.

15:41SPEAKERIt's like, it's hell of a-

15:42SPEAKER- How have I never seen good cotton?

15:44SPEAKER- Do you want me to go get it?

15:45SPEAKER- Yes.

15:46SPEAKER- Do you want to see it?

15:47SPEAKERI guess I have to go get it now, right?

15:48SPEAKER- This is going to be the episode picture now.

15:49SPEAKERCongratulations.

15:50SPEAKER- Talk amongst yourself.

15:52SPEAKER(upbeat music)

15:56SPEAKERIt's a bit ragged.

15:58SPEAKER- It's time, dude.

15:59SPEAKER- I know.

16:00SPEAKER- That is a soup wallet.

16:01SPEAKER- Well, so you can, you can subtract,

16:02SPEAKERlet's say the last five to seven years

16:04SPEAKERthat I have been telling myself I needed a new wallet

16:07SPEAKERand been putting it off.

16:09SPEAKER- Wow.

16:09SPEAKER- I mean, it's fun.

16:10SPEAKER- You want to see what my wallet looks like?

16:12SPEAKER- It's fine.

16:13SPEAKER- This is my wallet.

16:14SPEAKER- No, I know.

16:15SPEAKERYes, I, yes, trust me.

16:15SPEAKERI would-

16:16SPEAKER- Carry the little folding guy.

16:17SPEAKER- I would like to have a slimmer.

16:18SPEAKERI'd like to have a slimmer wallet, but I mean, you know, it's.

16:20SPEAKER- Wow.

16:22SPEAKERIt's the fraying edges that really sell in 24 years.

16:25SPEAKER- I know, but how many people are looking at my wallet?

16:28SPEAKER- Look on this rate, at this rate,

16:29SPEAKERyou're only likely to have maybe two more wallets

16:31SPEAKERfor your entire life, maybe three if you're really lucky.

16:33SPEAKER- You thought, you thought the 15 year old monitor situation

16:37SPEAKERwas dire or the 17 year old office chair

16:40SPEAKERthat I need to get replaced as well.

16:43SPEAKERI mean, I think we talked about that with these,

16:45SPEAKERwith these Cambridge sound work speakers, right?

16:46SPEAKEROr did we discuss that?

16:47SPEAKER- Those are good.

16:48SPEAKERI'm on board with you.

16:49SPEAKERLike I have a pair of 15 year old headphones there

16:51SPEAKERthat I use all the time.

16:52SPEAKERI love them.

16:53SPEAKER- Did we actually talk about that though?

16:54SPEAKERNot only are they good.

16:55SPEAKER- You and I have talked about it.

16:56SPEAKERI don't know if we've talked about it on a podcast.

16:57SPEAKER- Not only are they good

16:58SPEAKERand like I've fixed a bunch of stuff on these,

17:00SPEAKERlike I had to solder some of the wires back together

17:02SPEAKERafter they were chewed through by small rodents, so forth.

17:05SPEAKERBut last time I was at home,

17:07SPEAKERI realized that my sister had also had a set of these

17:10SPEAKERin college, but that she barely ever used them.

17:13SPEAKERLike they were practically new.

17:15SPEAKER- Wow.

17:16SPEAKER- And so I requisitioned that extra set of these,

17:19SPEAKERwhich, you know, obviously these haven't been

17:20SPEAKERout of production for.

17:21SPEAKER- 20 years.

17:22SPEAKER- 15 years, yeah.

17:23SPEAKERYears at least.

17:26SPEAKERSo you're obviously not gonna get any more of them,

17:27SPEAKERbut I found this whole extra set

17:29SPEAKERthat is practically brand new.

17:31SPEAKERConsidering that I have had these speakers for 20 years,

17:34SPEAKERthey have been on, like the subwoofer has been powered on

17:37SPEAKERfor basically the entirety of that 20 years

17:40SPEAKERand they're still going strong.

17:41SPEAKERAnd I have a brand new backup set for when things fail.

17:46SPEAKERIt is entirely possible these are the only computer speakers

17:49SPEAKERI will ever own for my entire natural life.

17:51SPEAKER- Look, A, on that I salute you

17:54SPEAKERbecause those are some awesome fucking speakers.

17:56SPEAKER- Hell yeah.

17:57SPEAKERWhen I left Maximum PC,

17:58SPEAKERI had a set of those Cambridge town works

17:59SPEAKERon my test bed in the lab and they were like,

18:02SPEAKER"Hey, are you gonna take these speakers?"

18:04SPEAKER'Cause I was the only one who wanted them and I didn't.

18:06SPEAKERAnd I remained sad about that.

18:07SPEAKER- Man.

18:08SPEAKER- B, you're thinking about this the wrong way.

18:11SPEAKERInstead of trying to stretch those out

18:12SPEAKERand use two 2.1 speakers for the rest of your life,

18:15SPEAKERwhat you need to do is get that other pair of speakers

18:17SPEAKERand put the two on the back wall behind you.

18:19SPEAKERYou have 4.2 speakers, which is perfect for apartment life.

18:24SPEAKER- Probably should do that.

18:25SPEAKER- Yeah.

18:26SPEAKER- Probably should do that.

18:27SPEAKER- Two subwoofers.

18:29SPEAKER- Anyway, anyway, it's time for a new wallet.

18:31SPEAKERIt's time for a new chair.

18:32SPEAKERIt is not time for new speakers.

18:34SPEAKER- Not time for new switch adapter either, sounds like.

18:38SPEAKERThat thing sounds dope.

18:39SPEAKER- It is super cool.

18:41SPEAKERIt's been, so I've tried it on directly

18:43SPEAKERinto my PC monitor, worked fine.

18:45SPEAKERDirectly into my Elgato capture card, also worked fine.

18:48SPEAKERDirectly into my TV, worked fine.

18:50SPEAKER- Perfect.

18:51SPEAKER- Through my AV receiver,

18:52SPEAKERit's had some pretty weird handshaking issues.

18:55SPEAKER- Like no video or no audio?

18:57SPEAKER- It just wouldn't put out video.

18:58SPEAKERIt just charged and kept charging

19:01SPEAKERand kept displaying on the small screen

19:02SPEAKERas if there was nothing connected.

19:04SPEAKER- Weird.

19:05SPEAKER- I finally got it to work right before this

19:07SPEAKERby plugging the iPad in first

19:10SPEAKERand the iPad spit out through the receiver fine.

19:12SPEAKERAnd then I pulled that and plugged it into the switch

19:15SPEAKERand then the switch worked through the receiver fine.

19:16SPEAKERSo I don't know if, I don't know.

19:19SPEAKER- It's funny, you and I have both,

19:21SPEAKERwe've both had weird problems with that receiver

19:23SPEAKERand HDMI issues. - Do you have one of those too?

19:25SPEAKER- 'Cause I have the same,

19:26SPEAKERI think we have the same Sony one

19:27SPEAKERthat Wirecutter used to recommend.

19:28SPEAKER- Okay.

19:30SPEAKER- And it's--

19:31SPEAKER- It is, yes, it is a Sony.

19:33SPEAKER- Yeah, and I had the HDMI CC problems with the MiSTer.

19:37SPEAKER- I ran it by the people that make the dock

19:41SPEAKERand they actually looked up the model and said,

19:44SPEAKER"Hey, it's probably a handshaking issue."

19:45SPEAKERAnd then sure enough, like I said,

19:46SPEAKERI tried plugging and unplugging some stuff for a while

19:49SPEAKERand it finally worked.

19:50SPEAKERSo I think it's something weird there,

19:52SPEAKERbut everything else I've tried it on,

19:56SPEAKERit works exactly as expected.

19:59SPEAKERAnd it seems pretty awesome.

20:01SPEAKER- How much is it, Brad?

20:01SPEAKER- It's 75 bucks, which is kind of a lot.

20:04SPEAKER- That's expensive.

20:05SPEAKER- But it does a lot.

20:06SPEAKERIt's funny though.

20:07SPEAKERIt's funny though, 'cause I started using it

20:08SPEAKERand it was funny how rapidly my expectations went from,

20:13SPEAKER"Wow, this thing does everything,"

20:14SPEAKERto, "Oh, but what if it also did this?"

20:16SPEAKERBecause it does so much and I have a USB-C MacBook now,

20:20SPEAKERI was like, "Oh man, what if this was also a 65 watt charger

20:23SPEAKERand it could run my MacBook Pro?"

20:25SPEAKER- It would be a lot bigger, I think.

20:26SPEAKER- But yes, I think that's the key difference, right?

20:28SPEAKERIs this thing is not much bigger than an iPad charger.

20:31SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a pretty good size for that.

20:34SPEAKERI mean, in fairness, it would have been much more useful

20:36SPEAKERbefore you stayed at home all the time

20:37SPEAKERand never left your Switch dock, so.

20:39SPEAKER- That's the other thing is that the coolness,

20:41SPEAKERthe usefulness, the utility of this thing

20:43SPEAKERis kind of purely hypothetical right now,

20:46SPEAKERbecause I have all my big permanent Switch equipment here

20:49SPEAKERall the time and I'm never going anywhere, but...

20:51SPEAKER- Well, but just conceptually, I'd much rather buy that

20:55SPEAKERand have something that is, like, it irks me

20:58SPEAKERthat the way I capture Switch games

21:00SPEAKERis that I have a dock on my desk

21:02SPEAKERthat I dropped the Switch into.

21:04SPEAKERIt still feels weird, so.

21:06SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm gonna start using this for video capture

21:07SPEAKERfor the Switch, just 'cause it's more convenient.

21:10SPEAKER- The Switch screen still turns off

21:12SPEAKERwhen it detects the dock, right?

21:13SPEAKER- Yes. - Okay.

21:15SPEAKERSo you can't handheld and capture it at the same time

21:17SPEAKERand still see what's on your screen.

21:18SPEAKER- I don't know, that is a problem.

21:20SPEAKERBut yeah, I've traveled with a real Switch dock

21:25SPEAKERbefore I've traveled with some of the smaller,

21:26SPEAKERreduced-sized docks, like this is by far.

21:29SPEAKER'Cause you're gonna bring a charger with you anyway.

21:32SPEAKERMight as well bring one that can also

21:34SPEAKERmake the Switch work on a TV.

21:35SPEAKER- Well, it's funny, when I travel with the Switch,

21:37SPEAKERI often just bring a big battery backup

21:40SPEAKERand charge the battery back up

21:41SPEAKERand then plug that into the Switch

21:44SPEAKERrather than carry another power,

21:46SPEAKERbut I also always carry one of those multi-port USB power

21:48SPEAKERbricks when I travel, so. - Sure.

21:52SPEAKER- Which I guess leads to my first thing,

21:55SPEAKERmulti-port USB chargers. - Oh, yeah.

21:59SPEAKER- I have filled my house with these things now

22:01SPEAKER'cause I'm a dumb ass, but also I like having chargers

22:04SPEAKEReverywhere I go, and I've started, I did a new thing,

22:07SPEAKER'cause we've reached a point in the house

22:09SPEAKERwhere we have too many, both, we have too many devices

22:12SPEAKERthat charge on USB and we also have too many different

22:14SPEAKERstandards of USB to plug in.

22:17SPEAKERSo we have a lot of Lightning devices,

22:19SPEAKERwe have a few USB-C devices in the Switch

22:22SPEAKERand Switch controllers, we have micro USB devices

22:27SPEAKERin battery backups and PlayStation controllers,

22:31SPEAKERand we have a few mini USB devices

22:36SPEAKERin Switch Pro controllers.

22:41SPEAKERI feel like there's one more that I'm missing,

22:42SPEAKERbut maybe that's it.

22:44SPEAKEROh, and the, no, that's it.

22:46SPEAKERAnd then, so I have multi-port USB chargers on my desk

22:53SPEAKERbehind the bed that wire up to the nightstands,

22:56SPEAKERand then one in the living room, one in the living room,

23:00SPEAKERone in the kitchen for working, when you're sitting

23:04SPEAKERin the couch and you need to plug in

23:06SPEAKERor when you're in the kitchen.

23:07SPEAKER- The goal is just to never have to stand up, right?

23:10SPEAKER- The goal is to never have to do anything,

23:12SPEAKERjust to always have a cable there,

23:13SPEAKERso you never need to use the battery, that's the dream.

23:16SPEAKERBut I got these, they're called, let's see,

23:22SPEAKERDigital Ant GenX Micros, and there's a bunch

23:24SPEAKERof different companies that make these,

23:25SPEAKERbut these are the ones that I bought

23:26SPEAKER'cause the reviews were pretty good on iTunes.

23:28SPEAKER- Did you say Digital Ant?

23:29SPEAKER- Digital Ant, not A-U-N-T, but A-N-T.

23:33SPEAKERThey've all been stolen by my child,

23:35SPEAKERso I don't know where, I don't have one here.

23:37SPEAKER- She's old enough to steal, huh?

23:39SPEAKER- Look. - Wait a minute.

23:40SPEAKER- What? - No fucking way.

23:42SPEAKER- What?

23:43SPEAKER- Oh man, I just ended up on their Amazon store page.

23:46SPEAKER- Is it good?

23:47SPEAKER- They make the thing that I want to talk about next

23:49SPEAKERthat I have not had a good vendor for in quite some time.

23:52SPEAKERSo this is quite fortuitous, but we'll get to that.

23:55SPEAKER- So, okay, so here's the way it works.

23:57SPEAKERYou got a normal cable, normal big USB-A cable on one end,

24:01SPEAKERand then the other end, you have a little MagSafe dealy

24:05SPEAKERthat you can peel the tip off of, and it just snaps on.

24:08SPEAKERSo basically, you take the stump

24:11SPEAKERof whatever connector you want, jam it in the device,

24:14SPEAKERand then magnet it off,

24:16SPEAKERjust like an old Apple MagSafe connector.

24:18SPEAKER- Oh wow, that's crazy.

24:20SPEAKER- It's fantastic for shit like controllers,

24:23SPEAKER'cause I don't want to have to fiddle with plugging that in.

24:25SPEAKERI just want to just get it close enough

24:26SPEAKERand have it click into place.

24:28SPEAKERAnd B, when my daughter is trying to charge her iPad

24:31SPEAKERor a Switch, I'm sitting there watching her flail around

24:33SPEAKERand jam the cable against her stomach and stuff like that.

24:35SPEAKERI'm like, oh God, I'm gonna end up pulling this thing out

24:37SPEAKERwith a bare needle-nose pliers.

24:39SPEAKERBut with the MagSafe on there, if she torques it

24:41SPEAKERthe wrong way, it just disconnects,

24:43SPEAKERand there's no risk of fucking up the connector,

24:47SPEAKER'cause there's not a lot of traffic on the connector,

24:49SPEAKERand we don't bend or break the connectors off in the device.

24:53SPEAKER- So this is just for the cables that they make,

24:56SPEAKERyou're saying?

24:56SPEAKER- These are just for the cables they make.

24:58SPEAKER- They don't make chargers, is what you're saying.

24:59SPEAKER- They don't make chargers.

25:00SPEAKERSo I'm plugging these into my normal Anker

25:03SPEAKERmulti-port USB chargers, and I have like-

25:05SPEAKER- Holy shit.

25:06SPEAKER- I'm looking at one of these USB-C, micro-USB-A,

25:10SPEAKERand Lightning for like six bucks.

25:12SPEAKER- So the one that I got was a three-pack for like $18

25:16SPEAKERthat had three cables that were pretty long.

25:19SPEAKERThey're like one and a half or two meter cables.

25:22SPEAKERAnd then there's nine tips, I think, in each one.

25:26SPEAKER- Hang on, I have to stop you for a second.

25:27SPEAKERAre we going metric on this podcast?

25:30SPEAKER- Look, sometimes-

25:31SPEAKER- Like I'm not necessarily complaining.

25:33SPEAKER- Sometimes metric, look, I think-

25:35SPEAKER- I knew I would need to make the transition sooner or later.

25:37SPEAKER- I think in metric, look, if we're going to move

25:39SPEAKERto New Zealand, you're going to have to learn metric, Brad.

25:42SPEAKER- I'm quite ready to do it in front of an audience,

25:44SPEAKERbut I'll give it a shot.

25:45SPEAKER- Look, okay, so 1.5 meters-

25:47SPEAKER- No, no, I know a meter and a half feet.

25:49SPEAKERIt's roughly more like a yard, give or take, right?

25:52SPEAKER- Four and a half feet, sorry.

25:53SPEAKER- Is it really?

25:54SPEAKER- Yeah, 2.54 centimeters in an inch.

25:56SPEAKER- I thought a meter was closer to three feet.

25:59SPEAKER- So if the meter is three feet,

26:02SPEAKERbut four and a half feet is a meter and a half.

26:04SPEAKER- Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, yes, yes.

26:07SPEAKER- Anyway, yeah, so I like these things a lot.

26:10SPEAKERThey're not much more expensive than a normal ass cable

26:13SPEAKERand they have a cool like braided outside edge.

26:15SPEAKER- Yeah, they look appealing, they look nicely made.

26:18SPEAKERAre they nicely made?

26:19SPEAKER'Cause there's a lot of stuff that looks nicely made

26:20SPEAKERon Amazon these days that is decidedly not.

26:23SPEAKER- I've been using these for like two months now

26:25SPEAKERand I haven't been disappointed.

26:26SPEAKERAnd like, because the magnet is the weak spot

26:29SPEAKERon the connector, like if even if you wrench the cable

26:32SPEAKERand it doesn't, like there's no stretch.

26:35SPEAKERYou have to really mess up to jack up the ends

26:37SPEAKERof these cables, I think.

26:38SPEAKER- Sure, that's exciting, man.

26:40SPEAKERI started to ask, like I assumed these were charging only,

26:43SPEAKERbut this says charging and data.

26:44SPEAKER- It's charging and data.

26:46SPEAKERMy assumption is that like the data throughput's

26:48SPEAKERnot gonna be great on them.

26:49SPEAKERI'm exclusively using them for charging.

26:51SPEAKERSo your mileage, at some point, I guess I'll update

26:54SPEAKERthe firmware on my index controllers

26:56SPEAKERand I'll let you know how that goes, so.

26:58SPEAKER- Okay, I had one more question

27:01SPEAKERand I'm struggling to, oh, last question,

27:04SPEAKERwhich I assume you must've figured out

27:05SPEAKER'cause you have a small child.

27:07SPEAKER- Yes.

27:07SPEAKER- How do you keep up with the tips

27:08SPEAKERthat are not currently connected?

27:09SPEAKERDo they have any kind of provision for,

27:11SPEAKERlike do they magnet onto anything else or?

27:14SPEAKER- I have a giant wad of them magneted onto each other

27:17SPEAKERand this is on my desk.

27:18SPEAKER- Just a horrible amalgam.

27:20SPEAKER- It's like a homunculus of USB ends.

27:24SPEAKER- Yes, it's like the thing from the end of "Inside"

27:26SPEAKERexcept USB connectors.

27:28SPEAKER- All tips, it's like micro USB.

27:30SPEAKER- You know, the one thing that they don't have

27:31SPEAKERis they don't have mini USB, which is kind of a bummer,

27:33SPEAKERbut since the only thing that we have that uses that still

27:35SPEAKERis the Switch Pro Controller, the Wii U Pro Controller.

27:39SPEAKER- Yeah, that still would have been nice though.

27:40SPEAKERThat stuff does, like I've got a PlayStation Move

27:42SPEAKERthat uses that.

27:44SPEAKER- Yeah.

27:45SPEAKER- That stuff does hang around, but that's fine.

27:46SPEAKER- I have a dock for my Move controllers

27:48SPEAKER'cause I use the PSVR stuff so frequently.

27:52SPEAKERAnd then on the Anker multi-port charger front,

27:54SPEAKERwe've talked about these before,

27:55SPEAKERbut they come in all sorts of different shapes and sizes.

27:59SPEAKERIf you want like USB 2.0A chargers,

28:02SPEAKERyou can get ones that have like 10 ports

28:03SPEAKERfor 50 bucks or something, which seems like overkill,

28:06SPEAKERbut I guess there's people out there with five kids

28:08SPEAKERin their family and like those phones

28:09SPEAKERhave to get charged somewhere.

28:11SPEAKER- Sure.

28:14SPEAKER- The ones that I use most,

28:16SPEAKERI have one that's a four port with one USB-C port,

28:20SPEAKERso five total ports that does fast USB-C charging

28:24SPEAKERup to like 40 watts, that's really good.

28:26SPEAKERAnd then I have a six port one into the bed

28:28SPEAKERfor Gina's and my watches, phones, and Kindles, I think.

28:34SPEAKER- Quick question about that stuff.

28:35SPEAKERI'm in the market for a new USB hub for behind my PC,

28:38SPEAKERjust to plug input devices and so forth into.

28:41SPEAKERI'm coming across a decent number of USB three hubs

28:44SPEAKERthat have a certain number of ports

28:45SPEAKERsectioned off for charge only.

28:47SPEAKER- Yeah.

28:48SPEAKER- What is the advantage there?

28:49SPEAKERIs that that they can deliver more current

28:51SPEAKERwhen you don't also have to worry about data

28:52SPEAKERin the same port or what's the deal?

28:54SPEAKER- I think it's just that a lot of people only need,

28:56SPEAKERlike I don't, like if I'm plugging my phone into my,

28:59SPEAKERI don't want to plug my phone into the computer

29:01SPEAKER'cause it pops up a bunch of crap that I don't need.

29:03SPEAKER- Okay.

29:04SPEAKER- Right, so it's like sometimes you just want to charge.

29:06SPEAKER- I guess that's why, yeah, maybe to ask the question

29:08SPEAKERin the reverse direction, you know,

29:10SPEAKERwhy aren't they all just proper USB data ports,

29:12SPEAKERbut maybe that's why, I mean,

29:14SPEAKERI would assume it's also probably cheaper to,

29:16SPEAKERyou know, you need a less complicated controller

29:18SPEAKERfor fewer data ports and stuff, cheaper to make.

29:22SPEAKER- Well, and also the more,

29:23SPEAKERso USB 3 has a lower limitation on the total number

29:28SPEAKERof devices on the chain than USB 2 did.

29:30SPEAKER- Interesting.

29:31SPEAKER- I think you can only do,

29:32SPEAKERand that may have changed with the later USB 3 specs,

29:34SPEAKERbut at least in the beginning it was only 128 total devices.

29:38SPEAKERSo like when you consider that a lot of devices,

29:43SPEAKERlike let's say a VR headset shows up as like 12 devices,

29:48SPEAKERyou can quickly run out of the endpoints on USB 3.

29:53SPEAKERSo like you don't really want a USB 3 hub

29:56SPEAKERwith like 20 ports on it, or even 10 ports.

29:59SPEAKERIt's probably not a great idea.

30:00SPEAKER- Interesting, actually on the same topic,

30:03SPEAKERone of the hubs I was looking at had like mostly USB 3 ports,

30:06SPEAKERbut also two or three USB 2.

30:09SPEAKER- That's weird.

30:10SPEAKER- Yeah, okay, so I was wondering if you had

30:12SPEAKERan explanation for that. - That might be a power?

30:13SPEAKERThat could be a power thing.

30:14SPEAKER- I think so, I want to say it had an AC adapter.

30:17SPEAKERI could be wrong about that.

30:19SPEAKERSometimes, I actually have no idea why they would do that.

30:24SPEAKERThat's ridiculous.

30:25SPEAKER- I also thought that was kind of strange.

30:27SPEAKERAlthough actually it just occurred to me,

30:29SPEAKERthere are maybe some very weird edge cases

30:32SPEAKERwhere that's useful, like the...

30:34SPEAKER- Like audio interfaces,

30:35SPEAKERyou probably want to plug into USB 2 only.

30:37SPEAKER- Like the Bluetooth dongle that I have

30:39SPEAKERcan only be plugged into USB 2,

30:41SPEAKER'cause I guess the polling rate of USB 3

30:42SPEAKERis enough to throw it off somehow.

30:44SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, so there you go.

30:46SPEAKER- Yeah.

30:47SPEAKER- I guess that's why the USB 3 audio interfaces

30:50SPEAKERare USB 2 only.

30:51SPEAKER- Yeah, that's probably weird.

30:53SPEAKERDo you know how that stuff works?

30:54SPEAKERIf you've got a, I know we're just talking about USB,

30:57SPEAKERI'm sorry.

30:57SPEAKER- It's like I said, USB episodes.

31:00SPEAKER- I'm in the market, so.

31:02SPEAKER- If you have, well, I'm sorry,

31:03SPEAKERif you just, if you have a hub,

31:05SPEAKERbefore I forget the question,

31:06SPEAKERif you have a hub and it's got one USB 3 connection

31:08SPEAKERout to the PC, and then you plug USB 2 devices

31:12SPEAKERinto some of those ports, are you...

31:15SPEAKER- I don't believe that it brings the whole hub

31:17SPEAKERdown to USB 2.

31:18SPEAKER- Okay, or even anything along those lines.

31:20SPEAKERI wouldn't have thought that the whole connection

31:21SPEAKERwould go down to,

31:22SPEAKERI fall back like that, but.

31:24SPEAKER- It probably depends on the hub,

31:26SPEAKERbut it shouldn't if it's a good one.

31:27SPEAKER- Okay. - How's that?

31:28SPEAKER- Okay.

31:30SPEAKERThat's quite good.

31:32SPEAKER- Yeah, you got some cables here.

31:34SPEAKER- Yeah, so. - What's your cable stitch?

31:35SPEAKER- I just wanna say I'm clicking around here.

31:37SPEAKERI mean, I'm discovering this in real time.

31:39SPEAKERDigital Ant might be my new favorite company.

31:41SPEAKEROoh, not least of all, because their logo is an ant.

31:47SPEAKER- It's pretty great. - Your ant and able.

31:48SPEAKER- It's pretty great.

31:49SPEAKERNo, no, no, it's like the, it's a tiny insect,

31:51SPEAKERbut it's like, it's kind of cartoonish and cutesy,

31:55SPEAKERbut not too overly so.

31:56SPEAKER- Oh yeah, that's a charming little guy.

31:58SPEAKER- Is it weird to make their logo the show art this week?

32:02SPEAKER- No, the logo has to be your soup wallet, dude.

32:04SPEAKER- Free advertising for Digital Ant.

32:06SPEAKER- You're not getting out of the soup wallet situation.

32:09SPEAKER- Fine.

32:10SPEAKERActually, you know what?

32:12SPEAKERI should have mentioned this before.

32:13SPEAKERThis is a whole other like tech topic.

32:15SPEAKERMy girlfriend bought me a new wallet this past Christmas.

32:18SPEAKER- Ooh.

32:19SPEAKER- But it was one of the RFID blocking wallets,

32:22SPEAKERwhich a lot of them seem to be these days.

32:24SPEAKER- You are definitely into EDC territory here.

32:27SPEAKER- Well, so I couldn't use it on the bus,

32:30SPEAKERso I ended up sending it back.

32:32SPEAKER- Oh, you couldn't use it on the bus

32:33SPEAKER'cause it blocked the card, you had to take the card out?

32:35SPEAKER- I don't wanna have to fish my Muni card out of my wallet

32:37SPEAKERevery time I get on the bus,

32:38SPEAKERso I decided that was a deal breaker,

32:41SPEAKERbut I almost had a new wallet is the point.

32:43SPEAKER- Wait, are you a Muni card guy, not a Clipper card?

32:45SPEAKER- Well, no, it is a Clipper card.

32:47SPEAKER- Okay, I didn't know it was a different thing.

32:49SPEAKER- I imagine anybody who doesn't live in the Bay Area

32:51SPEAKERdoesn't know what a Clipper card is.

32:54SPEAKER- It's funny, so even putting the Clipper

32:56SPEAKERon the outside edge of my wallet, it never works.

32:59SPEAKER- Fuck that, you know what?

33:00SPEAKERI'm just gonna lean entirely into my persona here.

33:03SPEAKER- Okay.

33:05SPEAKER- It's not a Clipper card, it's a TransLink card.

33:08SPEAKER- Whoa, what the hell is a TransLink card?

33:10SPEAKER- How long has it been since you've seen one of these?

33:12SPEAKER- I have never seen one of those.

33:13SPEAKER- TransLink is what Clipper used to be.

33:18SPEAKERI don't know why they rebranded

33:19SPEAKERat some point in the last decade.

33:21SPEAKER- Wow, is that what it looks like?

33:22SPEAKERI wondered if that's what you had to have

33:23SPEAKERto get to Sausalito when we were over there.

33:25SPEAKER- This is the one I bought in 2008

33:27SPEAKERto get to the Sausalito office.

33:28SPEAKER- Wow, it has a smart chip card on it.

33:30SPEAKER- Back when it was still TransLink.

33:32SPEAKERWell, I assume that some version of that chip

33:34SPEAKERis still in the current cards, right?

33:35SPEAKERYou just can't see it anymore.

33:36SPEAKER- Yeah, that's probably true.

33:37SPEAKER- But yeah, when they rebranded to Clipper,

33:39SPEAKERthey were like, "Ah, you got a TransLink card, it'll work."

33:42SPEAKER- That's really funny, I had no idea.

33:43SPEAKER- A little deep cut for Bay Area residents.

33:45SPEAKERBut anyway, the other reason that Digital Ant

33:49SPEAKERmight be my new favorite company is that,

33:52SPEAKERand this ties right back into my apparent

33:54SPEAKEReveryday carry obsession,

33:56SPEAKERwhen we were making the list for this episode,

33:58SPEAKERone of the things I wanted to put on here

34:00SPEAKERwas retractable cables.

34:02SPEAKER- Oh, I thought it was gonna be

34:03SPEAKERthe Bluetooth garage door opener.

34:04SPEAKER- No, no, no, well, that's the one with the ant on it.

34:06SPEAKERThat's, yeah, I'm pretty excited about that too.

34:07SPEAKERBut I fucking love retractable cables.

34:11SPEAKEREver since I went to Japan for the first time

34:12SPEAKERin like 2003, 2004, and found a retractable USB,

34:18SPEAKERmini USB cable over there,

34:19SPEAKERback when such a thing was unheard of in the States.

34:22SPEAKERI have loved, in fact, that is basically the origin

34:25SPEAKERof my appreciation for consolidating electronics.

34:29SPEAKERBut the problem, and I was literally lamenting this

34:31SPEAKERas I was making the list for this episode.

34:33SPEAKERI was thinking to myself, man,

34:35SPEAKERI've still got that same original retractable

34:37SPEAKERmini USB cable I got in Japan from 16 years ago

34:40SPEAKERor whatever, but because it's still, it's fine.

34:44SPEAKERIt works, it's still fine.

34:45SPEAKERAlso, I mean, how often do you use mini USB these days?

34:48SPEAKER- Okay, fair.

34:49SPEAKERWell, it's fair, fair, fair.

34:49SPEAKER- Let me get to the point here.

34:51SPEAKERThat cable's still fine.

34:53SPEAKERAll of the more recent retractable cables

34:55SPEAKERthat I've bought in the last like three to five years

34:57SPEAKERhave all gone to shit.

34:59SPEAKER- I, so we tested a bunch of retractable cables

35:01SPEAKERat Maximum PC in like the mid 2000s.

35:03SPEAKERAnd they were almost all bad.

35:05SPEAKER- Right.

35:06SPEAKER- But I think we were looking at like ethernet and stuff too.

35:08SPEAKERSo it's like, it's hard to say.

35:09SPEAKER- Maybe I just got lucky, but I've just,

35:11SPEAKERI've had the spring, the retraction mechanism

35:13SPEAKERjust fall to pieces on a bunch of the ones I've bought.

35:17SPEAKER- Huh.

35:18SPEAKER- But I clicked, like I said,

35:19SPEAKERI clicked through the Digital Ant store

35:21SPEAKERand right here at the top of their page,

35:22SPEAKERthey've got a whole line of nice looking retractable cables.

35:25SPEAKERAnd since you vouch for them.

35:28SPEAKER- I have no idea how the data works,

35:30SPEAKERbut for charging they're great.

35:31SPEAKER- I might have to stock up.

35:33SPEAKERThey've got a whole bunch.

35:33SPEAKERThey've got, they've got retractable cables

35:35SPEAKERthat have like all those tips on them.

35:37SPEAKER- Yeah. - HPC, lightning.

35:39SPEAKERGod, look at all this.

35:40SPEAKER- Can you plug multiple things at once

35:42SPEAKERinto those multi head cables?

35:43SPEAKERThat's the thing I don't know.

35:45SPEAKERWe should get some of these in and test them out.

35:47SPEAKER- I doubt that.

35:47SPEAKERThat seems, that seems dodgy.

35:49SPEAKERI think I would be, you know what?

35:51SPEAKERI would be a little concerned for my device, I think,

35:53SPEAKERif I were to do something like that.

35:54SPEAKER- This is like the time that I got the PCI Express extender

35:58SPEAKERto make my video card vertically mounted in the case

36:02SPEAKERand blew up the motherboard because it was $5.

36:04SPEAKERAnd that was a dumb ass for paying $5

36:06SPEAKERfor something that I plug a thousand dollar video card into.

36:09SPEAKER- Yeah, sometimes you got to go for it.

36:10SPEAKER- I was glad I blew up the video card,

36:12SPEAKERthe motherboard and not the video card.

36:13SPEAKER- Yes. - To be honest.

36:14SPEAKER- Yes.

36:16SPEAKERAnyway, yeah, like I love retractable cables

36:18SPEAKERand I have stopped buying them in recent years

36:20SPEAKERbecause they've all been so bad.

36:22SPEAKERAnd now I'm pretty hopeful looking at the stuff here that's,

36:26SPEAKERI mean, these are 11 bucks.

36:29SPEAKERThis one is, how long is this?

36:33SPEAKER- That's a perfectly reasonable price for a USB cable,

36:36SPEAKERI think.

36:37SPEAKER- Especially one that has three different types

36:39SPEAKERof connections.

36:40SPEAKERWow, five adjustable links.

36:43SPEAKER- I wonder if that means it like ratchets out to,

36:45SPEAKERyou need to get these and let me know how they are.

36:46SPEAKER- I'm gonna have to, well, maybe I'll wait

36:49SPEAKERuntil I actually have to travel again.

36:51SPEAKERMaybe it's fair.

36:52SPEAKER- So what do you do for cable management

36:53SPEAKERif you don't have retractable cables?

36:55SPEAKER- So I do still have a decent number that have not died yet.

36:58SPEAKERLike I was just kind of stubbornly re-buying the ones

37:00SPEAKERthat broke for a while.

37:01SPEAKERSo I've got a bunch.

37:04SPEAKERBut I don't know, man, cable wrapping

37:07SPEAKERis a very personal subject.

37:08SPEAKERI don't know if you want to get into that on here.

37:10SPEAKER- Well, so I was gonna say,

37:11SPEAKERI don't know if you guys use these in the shop,

37:13SPEAKERbut I ditched, I used to use these Velcro ties

37:16SPEAKERthat were great, except for they get really munged up

37:18SPEAKERand horrible.

37:20SPEAKERAnd I switched to these things called bongo ties,

37:23SPEAKERwhich are the...

37:29SPEAKER- Yeah, hold on.

37:30SPEAKER- I couldn't tell.

37:30SPEAKEROh, you, okay.

37:31SPEAKERSo I was grabbing a cable, sorry.

37:33SPEAKER- Yeah, so the bongo tie is like a rubber band

37:36SPEAKERwith a little, it's like a, I don't know.

37:40SPEAKEROh, that's a good coil.

37:42SPEAKERIt's like a rubber band with a little thing on it.

37:44SPEAKERLike it's like an hourglass shape.

37:46SPEAKERAnd the rubber band is looped around that and pulled through

37:49SPEAKERand then you just wrap that around the cables,

37:50SPEAKERthe whole thing, and hook the toggle

37:52SPEAKERon that one through the rubber band.

37:55SPEAKER- I think my girlfriend might have a few of those actually.

37:57SPEAKER- Yeah, they're fantastic.

37:58SPEAKERBut the rubber bands break down over time.

37:59SPEAKERSo that's just better for storing cables.

38:02SPEAKER- Yeah, just for bundling up cables.

38:04SPEAKER- Here is my method.

38:05SPEAKER- You do the clean coil.

38:06SPEAKER- I very gently, 'cause you don't want to,

38:08SPEAKERyou never want to stress connectors too much.

38:10SPEAKER- No.

38:11SPEAKER- I learned that from the old, the original, the MacBook.

38:14SPEAKERRemember the old school Mac safe?

38:16SPEAKER- Yeah, we did a video about that.

38:17SPEAKER- Do you remember how many people had to have the cable fray

38:21SPEAKERright there at the edge of the brick?

38:22SPEAKER- Yep, there's a company that makes this gluey epoxy stuff,

38:26SPEAKERlike putty epoxy stuff called Sugru,

38:30SPEAKERthat a large portion of their business

38:32SPEAKERwas people fixing the joint on their MacBook power bricks,

38:36SPEAKERbecause it broke every time.

38:37SPEAKER- Just don't put pressure on that thing.

38:39SPEAKER- Yeah, I know.

38:40SPEAKERWe did a video.

38:40SPEAKER- In the first place. - It was really funny.

38:41SPEAKERIt was like a '40s style, a '40s style PSA.

38:46SPEAKER- They didn't have MacBooks in the '40s.

38:48SPEAKER- No, but I did it in like 2011

38:50SPEAKERin the basement of the whiskey office.

38:52SPEAKER- That's the joke.

38:53SPEAKER- Yeah. - Okay.

38:54SPEAKERThis is gonna play amazingly well on an audio.

38:56SPEAKER- This is great audio. - Podcast.

38:57SPEAKERBut I just, I just.

38:59SPEAKER- If you keep doing this,

38:59SPEAKERwe're gonna have to start doing video now.

39:01SPEAKER- Gently wrap the cable around my hand,

39:03SPEAKERaround my kind of four fingers, basically.

39:05SPEAKER- Yeah.

39:06SPEAKER- Just take the ends and just kind of wrap them

39:08SPEAKERaround the inside of the coil.

39:09SPEAKER- Well, I mean, yeah, you could do that too.

39:11SPEAKER- And it just, you know, no stress on the cable.

39:14SPEAKERIt's pretty much lays flat.

39:17SPEAKERSo that's my method.

39:18SPEAKER- The braided cables don't have enough heft.

39:21SPEAKERThey don't have enough torsion in there for that to work.

39:24SPEAKER- Yeah, I can see that.

39:24SPEAKERIf you've got a stiff cable, my method's maybe

39:26SPEAKERnot gonna work too well, but.

39:27SPEAKER- Well, stiff cable works better.

39:28SPEAKERYou don't want a flaccid cable, I guess.

39:32SPEAKER- Nobody wants that.

39:34SPEAKERAll right.

39:35SPEAKERYeah, I mean, there's not much to say

39:36SPEAKERabout retractable cables other than

39:37SPEAKERthat I think they're great.

39:39SPEAKERAnd I wish. - They sound good.

39:40SPEAKER- I wish they were better.

39:41SPEAKERYou know, I wish they were manufactured to a higher quality.

39:44SPEAKERAnd now that you've turned me out to digital land,

39:46SPEAKERI'm hopeful that these are pretty good.

39:49SPEAKERThey've got four and a half stars, five stars, five stars.

39:53SPEAKERYeah, these.

39:54SPEAKER- Yeah, they rated highly.

39:55SPEAKERI looked at all the different MagSafe USB cable companies

39:58SPEAKERand they were the ones that seemed to be the most legit.

40:00SPEAKER- I don't see anybody complaining

40:02SPEAKERabout broken retraction mechanisms on here.

40:04SPEAKERSo there you go, might have to grab a couple of these

40:06SPEAKERnext time I have to fly somewhere.

40:09SPEAKER- You know, one of the things that I've done

40:12SPEAKERover the last year that has improved my life dramatically

40:15SPEAKERis maybe two years now is I've started adding lights.

40:19SPEAKERLike LED lights can, it turns out, run on batteries

40:22SPEAKERfor a really long time, or you can power them

40:25SPEAKERoff of something goofy like USB.

40:27SPEAKERSo I started by getting just a cheap,

40:30SPEAKERlike $5 USB strip light that had a USB plug for power.

40:35SPEAKERAnd I plugged that into the USB port on my monitor

40:37SPEAKERand then glued it underneath the monitor

40:38SPEAKERwith a double-sided foam tape.

40:41SPEAKERSo that I have like down lighting on the back of the monitor

40:44SPEAKERfor when I'm working on my desk.

40:45SPEAKER- Okay, smart, do you leave it on all the time?

40:49SPEAKER- No, it has a switch on the side

40:50SPEAKERso I can turn it on and off, it's hardly ever on.

40:51SPEAKERBut when I need it, it's there.

40:53SPEAKER- Ah, that'd sound useful.

40:54SPEAKER- Yeah, but like the king of all lights

40:58SPEAKERin my house is a good headlamp.

41:00SPEAKER- Cool.

41:02SPEAKER- I have a bunch of them 'cause we have, you know,

41:05SPEAKERthree people in the family, we need them.

41:06SPEAKERThey're nice when you're walking the dog and stuff,

41:07SPEAKERbut they're also awesome when you're working on computers,

41:09SPEAKERwhen you're like under the desk, digging around,

41:11SPEAKERdoing cable work or something like that.

41:13SPEAKERSo I put on the Black Diamond Spot 325,

41:16SPEAKERwhich is the wire cutter recommended headlamp right now.

41:18SPEAKERAnd somebody gave me one for Christmas last year.

41:20SPEAKER- Okay, I wasn't gonna ask.

41:22SPEAKER- Yes, hello.

41:23SPEAKER- But I'm just gonna ask.

41:25SPEAKERTo clarify, we are talking the type of headlamp

41:27SPEAKERlike one might wear caving, is that correct?

41:30SPEAKER- I mean, I assume miners wear headlamps, yes.

41:32SPEAKER- Miners wear headlamps, okay.

41:33SPEAKERIt is in fact a lamp on your head.

41:35SPEAKER- This one does not burn whale oil or anything like that.

41:37SPEAKERIt has a couple of batteries and an LED light

41:39SPEAKERand has red lights.

41:41SPEAKER- Have you ever worn a fuel burning type of headlamp?

41:44SPEAKER- No, that seems like it'd be a really good way

41:46SPEAKERto burn your hair off.

41:47SPEAKER- I have, it's pretty weird.

41:48SPEAKER- What, really?

41:49SPEAKER- I went caving one time when I was like 14.

41:52SPEAKER- Did they not have electricity then?

41:54SPEAKER- They had to do the cavers kiss if your light went out

41:57SPEAKERand you have to kind of kiss your headlamps.

42:00SPEAKERYeah, together to kind of reignite yours.

42:03SPEAKER- When I went caving and I was 14,

42:04SPEAKERwe carried mag lights, like, you know.

42:06SPEAKER- This was, I don't know, maybe they were trying

42:08SPEAKERto give us a nice retro experience, I'm not sure.

42:11SPEAKER- Where did, was this in North Carolina someplace?

42:13SPEAKER- Yeah, God, where was this?

42:14SPEAKERThis was up around Boone, I wanna say,

42:16SPEAKERsomewhere in that area.

42:17SPEAKERI forget, it's been a long time.

42:19SPEAKER- Wow, okay.

42:20SPEAKERI know, when I went, when I did my overnight caving trips,

42:23SPEAKERwe always used electricity.

42:25SPEAKER- Not overnight, this was like for an hour,

42:27SPEAKERcouple hours or something.

42:28SPEAKER- Oh, we, I went, let's see, we went camping in Lost Sea,

42:30SPEAKERwhich is like near Chattanooga, and we went to a multi,

42:36SPEAKERI wanna say it was a two-day caving excursion

42:39SPEAKERat this place in Greenville, the science camp.

42:41SPEAKER- That's intense.

42:42SPEAKER- With seventh grade, it was cool.

42:44SPEAKER- Was it like the super, super claustrophobic,

42:46SPEAKERlike you're inching your way through like 10 inch gaps

42:49SPEAKERor whatever? - It was hinky.

42:50SPEAKERYeah, it wasn't, like there was a place

42:52SPEAKERthat they were like, if the water's too high,

42:54SPEAKERwe won't be able to go back any further from here on,

42:56SPEAKERbecause, you know, yeah, it was the kind of thing

42:59SPEAKERthat Elon would design a submarine

43:00SPEAKERthat no sane person would get in to get through probably.

43:03SPEAKER- Yes, makes me grateful in retrospect

43:06SPEAKERthat there's not a lot of seismic activity

43:07SPEAKERin that part of the world.

43:08SPEAKER- My mom had an earthquake the other day.

43:10SPEAKERI was going to North Carolina.

43:11SPEAKER- I heard, I heard about that.

43:12SPEAKER- Yeah.

43:14SPEAKER- Then I saw the film, "The Descent,"

43:15SPEAKERand I will never go in a cave again.

43:17SPEAKER- It's funny, I was, I never remember being scared

43:20SPEAKERin the caves.

43:21SPEAKERNow it is absolutely terrifying to me.

43:23SPEAKER- You could not get me in another one of those things

43:25SPEAKERat this point.

43:26SPEAKER- Yeah, but yeah, so the headlamp,

43:29SPEAKERI've had a bunch of headlamps over the years.

43:31SPEAKERThe one I have now is really nice.

43:33SPEAKERIt doesn't have, it's just one band.

43:34SPEAKERIt's not like a head strap across the middle

43:36SPEAKERor anything like that.

43:37SPEAKERIt's really, really light.

43:38SPEAKERIt's bright.

43:39SPEAKERThe batteries, like using edeloops,

43:42SPEAKERthe batteries last for 14 or 15 hours.

43:44SPEAKER- Wow, damn.

43:45SPEAKER- So like it's, it's like literally multiple weeks

43:48SPEAKERof taking the dog out or, you know,

43:51SPEAKERmonths if I'm just using it to work on the PC.

43:53SPEAKER- Sure, I have to, I should totally get one of those.

43:56SPEAKERAre they relatively inexpensive?

43:58SPEAKER- It's like 20 bucks.

43:59SPEAKER- Oh wow, yeah.

44:00SPEAKER- You could get a really nice one for 25.

44:02SPEAKERYeah, everybody should have one of these.

44:03SPEAKERThat's the thing.

44:04SPEAKER- Every time I work on the computer,

44:05SPEAKERI either have to drag it into a room

44:06SPEAKERwith a bunch of natural light or contort some lamp

44:09SPEAKERon the floor to like prop it up on a milk crate.

44:12SPEAKERTry to get some light in that, wow, man.

44:14SPEAKERWhere have I been all this time?

44:15SPEAKER- That's for chumps.

44:15SPEAKER- Yeah, seriously.

44:16SPEAKER- You just put the light on your head,

44:17SPEAKERthen you're good to go.

44:18SPEAKERThere's light everywhere you're looking.

44:19SPEAKER- Dude, you're, I am literally assembling a wishlist

44:22SPEAKERoff of this episode.

44:23SPEAKERThis is good stuff.

44:24SPEAKER- Well, and so the neat thing is,

44:26SPEAKERlike when I was outside last night

44:27SPEAKERand we were trying to see the meteors

44:29SPEAKERand I didn't want to blow out my night vision,

44:30SPEAKERbut I needed a light

44:31SPEAKER'cause my daughter wanted something from inside,

44:33SPEAKERI switched over to red light mode.

44:35SPEAKER- Oh wow.

44:36SPEAKER- And it has like a relatively dim,

44:38SPEAKERbut like when your night adjusted eyes are okay,

44:40SPEAKERyou can see whatever you need to see.

44:41SPEAKERAnd that works too.

44:43SPEAKER- That's super cool.

44:45SPEAKER- I think it also has an annoying flashy mode,

44:47SPEAKERbut I suppose that's if you're in trouble

44:50SPEAKERor something, need help, I don't know.

44:52SPEAKERAnd then the last thing I talked about a few weeks ago

44:54SPEAKERwhen we did the other episode,

44:55SPEAKERbut it's the Amico motion sensor closet light.

44:58SPEAKERAnd it's a USB battery.

45:01SPEAKERLike it's a battery about the size of like, I don't know,

45:03SPEAKERit's like three inches long, maybe an inch and a half wide.

45:06SPEAKERAnd it has a USB-A port.

45:08SPEAKERSo you can plug it into any kind of charger device

45:10SPEAKERand it'll charge.

45:11SPEAKERAnd the battery is long enough

45:13SPEAKERthat it runs a motion activated light in the closet,

45:16SPEAKERmotion and light activated light in the closet,

45:18SPEAKERwhich doesn't have any natural lighting and is really deep

45:21SPEAKERand is like usually involved getting a flashlight

45:22SPEAKERto get like cans of soup out of the back.

45:25SPEAKERAnd now whenever you open the pantry door,

45:27SPEAKERthe light turns on and it's fabulous.

45:30SPEAKERSo like the upshot here is that there are a lot of weird,

45:36SPEAKERlike you can buy,

45:37SPEAKERnow you can buy battery powered USB strip lights.

45:40SPEAKERSo if you want to put under counter lighting

45:42SPEAKERor something like that, under shelf lighting someplace,

45:45SPEAKERyou can do it in a non-permanent way

45:47SPEAKERthat doesn't require permanent wiring and stuff like that.

45:49SPEAKERAnd like the hassle is,

45:52SPEAKERoh, I have to plug this in every three weeks or a month

45:55SPEAKERor something like that, which isn't that bad.

45:56SPEAKER- Yeah, that's super cool.

45:58SPEAKER- And that was like 15, 20 bucks too, so.

46:01SPEAKER- Cool, so my turn.

46:05SPEAKER- I mean, yeah, I feel like I'm done.

46:07SPEAKER- I'm half of this podcast.

46:09SPEAKER- Yeah, I guess I can decide that it's my turn.

46:13SPEAKERFor whatever reason, a lot of my stuff is charging related.

46:15SPEAKERBefore we move on to the next actual thing,

46:17SPEAKERone thing I forgot to mention with the Genki,

46:19SPEAKERthe Covert dock is that they,

46:21SPEAKERand they kind of make a big deal out of this

46:22SPEAKERin the marketing that it's gallium nitride based.

46:25SPEAKERDo you know anything about that?

46:25SPEAKERLike they really kind of play it up as like,

46:28SPEAKERah, it's next gen charging technology.

46:30SPEAKERAnd I have not really looked into the kind of material

46:33SPEAKERscience of why that is.

46:34SPEAKER- I know that gallium is a very soft metal

46:36SPEAKERand that nitride is nitrogen minus some stuff.

46:39SPEAKER- Okay. - That's what I remember.

46:40SPEAKER- Okay, I don't know what the previous types of chargers

46:44SPEAKERare even based on, silicon carbide.

46:47SPEAKER- Does that mean it's more efficient?

46:49SPEAKERIs that the TLDR? - Maybe for going around.

46:51SPEAKERLet's see, scholarly articles for gallium nitride

46:54SPEAKERversus silicon carbide.

46:56SPEAKERThis might take some time to look into.

46:58SPEAKERAnyway.

46:59SPEAKER- Yeah, this sounds like an episode actually.

46:59SPEAKER- I just brought it up 'cause I was curious

47:01SPEAKERif you knew off the top of the head.

47:03SPEAKER- Never heard of that one.

47:04SPEAKERIt may be a conflict mineral thing,

47:05SPEAKERbut silicon carbide doesn't sound particularly conflicty.

47:08SPEAKER- I would guess it's an efficiency thing.

47:11SPEAKERIf I had to guess. - Yeah, that makes sense.

47:12SPEAKER- Maybe just like how you can pump more watts

47:13SPEAKERout of the same size charger or something like that.

47:16SPEAKER- Speaking of efficiency though.

47:17SPEAKER- Yeah, so I threw wireless phone chargers on here,

47:19SPEAKERwhich are pretty old hat at this point.

47:21SPEAKERLike everybody knows what those are,

47:22SPEAKERbut I guess the main reason I wanted to talk about them

47:27SPEAKERis this, so this was on Boing Boing.

47:29SPEAKERThis link was going around on our Discord.

47:32SPEAKER- Yeah, that's why I put it on there.

47:33SPEAKER- I don't know where the actual,

47:34SPEAKERoh yeah, that's right, you are the one that posted this.

47:36SPEAKERI don't know where the actual research came from

47:38SPEAKERthat this story is based on, but the headline is report,

47:41SPEAKERwireless phone charging is an ecological disaster

47:43SPEAKERwaiting to happen.

47:45SPEAKER- Probably is already happening, yeah.

47:46SPEAKER- Shit.

47:47SPEAKER- Yeah, I really like my wireless charger.

47:49SPEAKER- So do I.

47:50SPEAKERI mean, the upshot of this is that wireless charging,

47:54SPEAKERespecially if you don't align your device very well

47:56SPEAKERwith the charging coils in the charger

47:57SPEAKERis insanely inefficient and that you are wasting

48:00SPEAKERa massive amount of energy for the same result

48:04SPEAKERas you would be with a wired charger.

48:07SPEAKERSo that's the next step.

48:10SPEAKER- Yep, so there's a couple of caveats for this.

48:16SPEAKEROne is that if you have a charger that makes it hard

48:21SPEAKERfor you to line up the coil on the phone

48:23SPEAKERwith the coil on the transmitter, you lose efficiency a lot.

48:26SPEAKERSo if your phone gets warm when it's charging on the pad,

48:30SPEAKERyou're probably not lining it up right

48:32SPEAKERso you're wasting a lot of energy.

48:34SPEAKER- Because a lot of the extra energy

48:35SPEAKERis dispersed as heat, right?

48:37SPEAKER- It turns into heat, yeah.

48:39SPEAKERThe other part of it is, so also at the same time,

48:45SPEAKERif you have like a stand charger,

48:47SPEAKERlike these Anker ones that you and I use,

48:49SPEAKERthey probably put the phone,

48:50SPEAKERthey put the thing in the right spot

48:51SPEAKER'cause I notice on the stand when it never gets warm

48:53SPEAKERunless I have it like cattywampus on the charger.

48:57SPEAKER- You have it what?

48:58SPEAKER- Cattywampus.

48:59SPEAKER- Cattywampus?

49:00SPEAKER- Do you not say cattywampus?

49:01SPEAKER- It must be an extremely regional term.

49:04SPEAKER- It might be English.

49:05SPEAKER- I'm practically from the same region as you

49:06SPEAKERand yet I have not heard.

49:08SPEAKER- Well, it's a thing my mom says.

49:09SPEAKERSo the source was one zero and basically they just,

49:13SPEAKERwhich is one zero dot medium dot com.

49:18SPEAKERAnd they basically put up a watt meter,

49:20SPEAKERput a watt meter on charging pads and wired chargers,

49:26SPEAKERtimed how long it took to charge

49:28SPEAKERand like measured how much energy

49:30SPEAKERthe watt meter was saying went in

49:31SPEAKERto figure out how much we were wasting.

49:33SPEAKER- Yeah.

49:34SPEAKER- It's one of those things, it's like the vampire,

49:36SPEAKERyou know, the vampire power bricks.

49:38SPEAKEROn the surface it doesn't seem like

49:39SPEAKERit's actually that much energy waste,

49:42SPEAKERbut then when you multiply that

49:43SPEAKERby a few billion phones around the world,

49:46SPEAKERit's a kind of a disaster.

49:47SPEAKER- It's pretty substantial, yeah.

49:48SPEAKER- Yeah.

49:49SPEAKER- So, I mean, I don't know that we're quite gonna go

49:51SPEAKERas far as to say never wirelessly charge again,

49:53SPEAKERbut maybe try to at least get like

49:55SPEAKERsome of these stand type form factor ones

49:57SPEAKERthat make it easier to line the device up properly.

49:59SPEAKER- Well, and like one of the other things is

50:01SPEAKERI know there's a rumor going around right now

50:02SPEAKERthat Apple is doing a charger for the next series of phones

50:06SPEAKERthat has like magnetic locking.

50:08SPEAKERSo when you put your phone down,

50:10SPEAKERit locks it like the magnets move it

50:11SPEAKERinto the exact right position.

50:13SPEAKERSo you get better efficiency.

50:14SPEAKER- That's cool, that seems smart.

50:17SPEAKER- Yeah, we'll see.

50:18SPEAKER- A lot harder to do for a universal charger

50:20SPEAKERthat works with anything though, of course.

50:22SPEAKER- I like not having physical connectors

50:24SPEAKER'cause I feel like physical connectors

50:25SPEAKERare a thing that wears down over time.

50:28SPEAKER- Hey, well, guess what, Will?

50:30SPEAKER- What, Brad?

50:31SPEAKER- What if you are so ecologically conscious

50:33SPEAKERthat you want to cut wireless charging

50:34SPEAKERout of your life entirely?

50:36SPEAKER- Okay.

50:37SPEAKER- And get back to some good sturdy, reliable wires.

50:41SPEAKER- Okay.

50:42SPEAKER- We have a charging station.

50:45SPEAKER- Ooh, like one of those blue lounge jobbers?

50:46SPEAKER- Made out of bamboo.

50:48SPEAKER- Ooh, fancy.

50:49SPEAKER- What is a blue lounge, what are you?

50:51SPEAKER- Blue lounge is a brand, they used to make charging stations

50:53SPEAKERlike wooden sides and velvet bottoms that look fancy,

50:56SPEAKERlike something you're putting your jewelry on.

50:58SPEAKER- Kinda looks like that.

51:00SPEAKER- I have one in my bedroom, I use it.

51:02SPEAKERI love it, I'm a fan.

51:03SPEAKER- Okay.

51:04SPEAKERYeah, these things are all over Amazon

51:05SPEAKERif you just kind of search for,

51:06SPEAKERthey don't have to be made out of bamboo,

51:08SPEAKERthat's just the one that we have

51:09SPEAKERand apparently for whatever reason, a lot of them are.

51:12SPEAKER- Bamboo is an ecologically friendly material.

51:14SPEAKER- Okay.

51:16SPEAKEROh, I just found the actual,

51:17SPEAKERthis looks pretty much like exactly the one we have.

51:20SPEAKER- There you go.

51:21SPEAKER- It's just a little slotted wooden device.

51:24SPEAKERIt's got, ours has magnets in it,

51:26SPEAKERso the top part, it's like a breakaway top.

51:28SPEAKERIt's got slots that basically like a phone,

51:30SPEAKERlike some phones will fit into the slots in the front

51:32SPEAKERand then there are bigger slots as you go back,

51:34SPEAKERlike the next one back is like an iPad mini size one

51:37SPEAKERand the one behind that is like a full-size iPad slot.

51:39SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

51:40SPEAKER- And that top breakaway with all the stands on it

51:43SPEAKERopens up to reveal just an empty chamber inside

51:45SPEAKERwith kind of runs for cables.

51:48SPEAKERYou basically run cables through the back, out the sides,

51:50SPEAKERso they come out right where the port

51:52SPEAKERon the relevant vice would be.

51:54SPEAKER- Oh, interesting, and then you just drop it in the slot

51:56SPEAKERand plug it in?

51:57SPEAKER- It's just a little corral, yeah.

51:58SPEAKERIt's just, well, yeah,

51:59SPEAKERyou still have to manually plug the cable in.

52:00SPEAKERIt's not like it doesn't secure the cable

52:02SPEAKERso it lines up with the port or anything like that.

52:04SPEAKERIt's nothing nearly that fancy,

52:05SPEAKERbut it is just a nice tasteful looking little corral

52:09SPEAKERfor a bunch of different charging cables to kind of,

52:12SPEAKERit eliminates the spaghetti mess

52:14SPEAKERand it just is like one nice little central location

52:16SPEAKERfor all of your stuff to charge.

52:18SPEAKER- And is it one power cord that comes from the wall

52:20SPEAKERinto that box?

52:21SPEAKER- No, no, no, there are no electronics.

52:22SPEAKERIt is purely just a wooden thing.

52:23SPEAKERYou still, yeah, like I said, not that fancy.

52:26SPEAKER- Okay.

52:27SPEAKER- You still have to, you know,

52:28SPEAKERwe just ran everything to a surge protector

52:30SPEAKERunderneath the console table that it's on.

52:32SPEAKER- That sounds really, I mean,

52:33SPEAKERthat sounds pretty good though.

52:34SPEAKERLike that, like if you put one of those multi USB chargers

52:36SPEAKERunder there and got some like one foot long USB cables,

52:39SPEAKERyou'd be in business.

52:40SPEAKER- So it's really just a way to kind of obfuscate

52:42SPEAKERthe cable mess coming out of those multi chargers.

52:44SPEAKER- Yeah, hydrocrimes.

52:45SPEAKER- Make it, yes, exactly, make it look nice.

52:47SPEAKERAnd it's, I'm not gonna go as far as to say

52:50SPEAKERit's like a nice display piece for your mobile devices

52:52SPEAKERor anything, but like it is kind of handy

52:53SPEAKERto have your phone like standing up on a stand

52:56SPEAKERwhile it's charging like that.

52:56SPEAKERSo if you get a text message,

52:58SPEAKERyou can just kind of walk by and read it.

52:59SPEAKER- Well, and it's nice not to like,

53:00SPEAKERif the problem we have, I mean,

53:03SPEAKERwith three people in the house now with devices is if like,

53:08SPEAKERlike it is iPad minis and switches and phones and iPads

53:12SPEAKERand laptops and all the things, the detritus,

53:14SPEAKERthe electronic detritus of our lives

53:16SPEAKERtakes up a lot of space.

53:18SPEAKER- Totally.

53:18SPEAKER- Like if you just lay it flat too.

53:20SPEAKERSo I can see that.

53:21SPEAKER- Yeah, totally, this stands everything up vertically.

53:23SPEAKERIt just kind of just gets it all out of the way

53:24SPEAKERwhile it's charging.

53:25SPEAKERIt's nice for kindles and stuff like that as well.

53:27SPEAKERLike just about anything that'll fit in one of these slots.

53:31SPEAKER- I like it.

53:32SPEAKERSo my last couple of life, I have three more things.

53:37SPEAKERTwo of them are kind of the same.

53:38SPEAKERSo there's, I don't know if you've ever used

53:40SPEAKERsoldering extra hands, like the things that are like,

53:43SPEAKERthey have like the little articulated ball joints

53:46SPEAKERwith wing nuts that you can tighten up and tighten down

53:48SPEAKERto like make them tighter.

53:49SPEAKERNot, and they have alligator clips on the end.

53:51SPEAKERSo you can hold, like if you need to solder two wires

53:53SPEAKERtogether, then you can clamp the two wires in there,

53:55SPEAKERget them lined up exactly, get them all tinned up

53:57SPEAKERand soldering iron.

53:59SPEAKER- I've never used those, but I've never done

54:01SPEAKERa soldering project, you know, complicated enough

54:04SPEAKERto need that sort of thing.

54:05SPEAKERBut if I had that stuff, maybe I would.

54:07SPEAKER- Well, so the trick is the ones that everybody has

54:10SPEAKERthat you got at Radio Shack like 20 years ago, suck ass.

54:14SPEAKERBecause they have a little like cast metal, cast iron base

54:17SPEAKERthat theoretically is heavy enough to balance it.

54:20SPEAKERBut in reality, if you have any kind of weight

54:21SPEAKERon those cables, then it's going to tip over

54:23SPEAKERjust at the moment that you're trying to touch it

54:25SPEAKERwith the hot soldering iron.

54:26SPEAKERAnd then the whole thing gets out of alignment

54:27SPEAKERand you have to do it all over again.

54:30SPEAKERI got, a few years ago, I got a really nice,

54:33SPEAKERa friend of mine gave me a really nice set of jewelers

54:35SPEAKERhelping hands that are like those.

54:37SPEAKERBut instead of being on the little tiny cast iron base,

54:41SPEAKERthey have a great big, huge base with a big stone

54:44SPEAKERto absorb the extra heat.

54:46SPEAKERWhich is great if you're a jeweler,

54:47SPEAKERnot so great for soldering electronics,

54:49SPEAKERbut the arms are really heavy duty

54:51SPEAKERand articulated really well.

54:52SPEAKERAnd you kind of like set the tension on the grabbers

54:55SPEAKERand all that, so you don't munch up delicate stuff.

54:58SPEAKERBut they were like 150 bucks.

54:59SPEAKERThey were really expensive.

55:00SPEAKER- I was just about to say something with this fine level

55:03SPEAKERof control sounds pretty pricey.

55:05SPEAKER- Well, so the thing that's happened in the last few years

55:08SPEAKERis that a couple of companies are making,

55:11SPEAKERthese things are called third hands usually,

55:14SPEAKERmaking these that have like the gorilla pod style,

55:19SPEAKERknobby, like snake arms.

55:21SPEAKERSo like the gorilla pod is like the plastic ball

55:23SPEAKERand socket joints that are just segmented

55:26SPEAKERand you can put them wherever.

55:27SPEAKERSo you have like four of those arms on a nice big wide base

55:31SPEAKERand they're like 20 bucks 'cause they're made of plastic.

55:33SPEAKER- Wow.

55:34SPEAKER- So Kato is the one that I've recommended

55:36SPEAKERto a bunch of people and have had really good feedback on.

55:39SPEAKER- K-O-T-T-O.

55:40SPEAKER- K-O-T-T-O, I'm not replacing my fancy jewelers third hands

55:47SPEAKERbut this is what I've been recommending

55:48SPEAKERto anybody who needs them and they're great.

55:50SPEAKERYou can get them with like a little magnifier

55:52SPEAKERand an LED, battery powered LED light if you want,

55:55SPEAKERif you need that.

55:56SPEAKERAnd if you don't, you can get one that has an extra arm

55:58SPEAKERin place of that.

55:59SPEAKER- That's cool.

56:00SPEAKER- They seem really, really dope.

56:02SPEAKER- That's cool, a soldering station is not at the top

56:05SPEAKERof my list of things I would have if I owned a house

56:07SPEAKERbut it is definitely in the top five, let's say.

56:11SPEAKER- I'm gonna tell you, you have more than enough space

56:14SPEAKERto have like a--

56:15SPEAKER- I know it doesn't take that much space.

56:16SPEAKER- Yeah, a nice soldering station.

56:18SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't know.

56:19SPEAKER- You gotta get little plastic bins that that stuff goes in

56:22SPEAKERand then it goes in the top of your closet

56:23SPEAKERand you pull out the soldering bin when you need to solder.

56:25SPEAKER- You know, I want a permanent workbench, you know.

56:28SPEAKER- Well, that's a whole different,

56:29SPEAKERthat's a different set of circumstances.

56:30SPEAKERYeah, anyway.

56:33SPEAKERAnd then the other thing that uses that same kind of ball

56:35SPEAKERand socket joint is this Dinkum Systems ActionPod Pro.

56:38SPEAKERAnd this is the thing I learned about from the tested crew

56:40SPEAKER'cause they use them to mount GoPros and like small cameras

56:44SPEAKERwhen they're doing shoots to get like high angles

56:46SPEAKERand weird angles and stuff like that.

56:48SPEAKERAnd it's basically just a single arm

56:50SPEAKERwith a great big plastic spring-loaded clamp

56:54SPEAKERon the other end.

56:55SPEAKERSo you can hook that clamp onto like the side

56:57SPEAKERof a bookshelf or a tree branch or like a car door

57:01SPEAKERor whatever you happen to have around.

57:02SPEAKERAnd then the other end is a normal quarter inch camera mount

57:06SPEAKERthat you can just screw whatever your camera is on there,

57:08SPEAKERwhether it's a phone camera holder

57:11SPEAKERor your small mirrorless or GoPro or whatever it happens,

57:16SPEAKERwebcam even, I used it for webcam for years.

57:19SPEAKERAnd it's nice 'cause you, because it's articulated,

57:22SPEAKERthe arm is articulated, you get more control.

57:25SPEAKERYou can place the camera exactly where you want it

57:28SPEAKERreally easily, which is powerful.

57:30SPEAKER- That's cool.

57:32SPEAKER- Yeah.

57:32SPEAKER- Mounting.

57:33SPEAKERGosh, I just bought a bunch of mounting hardware

57:36SPEAKERfor a very nice camera that I'm getting.

57:38SPEAKER- Ooh, what are you getting?

57:40SPEAKER- Well, this is work stuff we're paid for.

57:42SPEAKERIt's not expected. - That still counts?

57:45SPEAKEROkay, okay.

57:46SPEAKER- I bought, I put in for a piece of Manfrotto gear.

57:49SPEAKERLet's say that, I'll go that far.

57:52SPEAKER- That is a fancy tripod.

57:53SPEAKER- Yeah.

57:54SPEAKER- Is it carbon fiber or aluminum brand?

57:56SPEAKER- It might be carbon fiber, I'd have to check.

57:59SPEAKER- It's gonna be so light.

58:01SPEAKER- Let me see.

58:04SPEAKERIt's the Manfrotto 244 mini friction arm.

58:07SPEAKER- Oh yeah, I like a friction arm.

58:10SPEAKER- Which is, oh, it's aluminum.

58:13SPEAKER- Okay.

58:13SPEAKER- So maybe not that.

58:14SPEAKER- The carbon fiber is usually like a 4X price difference

58:16SPEAKERon the Manfrotto stuff.

58:17SPEAKER- Yes, I mean, you know, it is company money,

58:19SPEAKERbut we still have to be somewhat price conscious.

58:21SPEAKERAnyway.

58:22SPEAKER- That's awesome, dude.

58:23SPEAKER- Maybe I'll talk more about that stuff once I,

58:24SPEAKERit's for a mirrorless camera with my webcam game

58:28SPEAKERis about to get up significantly.

58:30SPEAKER- Getting some depth of field there,

58:31SPEAKERyou're getting a little bokeh.

58:33SPEAKER- Yes, hopefully.

58:34SPEAKER- That's my next upgraded at the home stream,

58:37SPEAKERI think is the mirrorless and yeah.

58:40SPEAKER- It's a nice look, but excuse me,

58:42SPEAKERthe last thing I've got here is,

58:44SPEAKERI bought these things so long ago, I don't even know.

58:47SPEAKERI think I got mine from Monoprice,

58:48SPEAKERbut I've got a whole pile

58:49SPEAKERof little articulated HDMI extenders.

58:52SPEAKER- What do you mean by articulated?

58:54SPEAKER- So some of them are hinged.

58:56SPEAKER- Ooh.

58:57SPEAKER- One of them, one of the ones I have is hinged

58:59SPEAKERand rotates, if you can envision that it's on a hinge.

59:02SPEAKERAnd then also one of the sides on one side of the hinge

59:06SPEAKERalso can rotate perpendicular to the hinge.

59:09SPEAKER- Is this in the service

59:10SPEAKERof an extraordinary long HDMI cable run?

59:12SPEAKER- That may have been the genesis of this purchase originally,

59:16SPEAKERbut they come in handy in all kinds of situations.

59:17SPEAKERAnd I should say, if you just have a TV

59:20SPEAKERwith consoles hooked up to it and they never move around

59:23SPEAKERand you don't need to like hook

59:24SPEAKERand unhook video connections all the time,

59:26SPEAKERyou don't need this stuff.

59:26SPEAKERLike this is for people who are doing lunatic things

59:29SPEAKERwith game consoles all the time.

59:32SPEAKER- That sounds awesome.

59:33SPEAKER- But they are super handy for,

59:35SPEAKERif you're running long cables

59:36SPEAKERor running cables at weird angles,

59:37SPEAKERlike that's kind of what they are originally,

59:39SPEAKERI think are for, they're like port savers.

59:42SPEAKERThey allow your HDMI connection to flex basically.

59:44SPEAKER- Yeah, and the problem with like a lot of,

59:46SPEAKERlike I used to have a long HDMI cable

59:47SPEAKERthat I used to go into the living room

59:48SPEAKERthrough a hole in the wall.

59:50SPEAKERAnd that thing was so, it was like 15 feet

59:53SPEAKERand it was so thick that it just didn't bend.

59:56SPEAKER- Yes, so that's why I originally got this stuff

59:59SPEAKERis that I've got this 30 foot cable

1:00:01SPEAKERthat I don't use it that much these days, honestly.

1:00:05SPEAKERI mostly play PC games on the PC at this point,

1:00:07SPEAKERbut once in a while it's useful.

1:00:08SPEAKERBut it's like a, it's a very heavy gauge.

1:00:12SPEAKERI forget what it is, but it's a, like you said,

1:00:14SPEAKERit is a heavy, you need a thick ass cable

1:00:16SPEAKERto make the signal go that far, right?

1:00:18SPEAKER- Yeah, that's just science.

1:00:20SPEAKERThe thicker the cable, the farther the signal.

1:00:21SPEAKER- Basically I was worried about the port,

1:00:23SPEAKERthe HDMI port in my video card,

1:00:24SPEAKERhaving this thick cable coming out of it

1:00:27SPEAKERthat would then get pulled down the hall.

1:00:28SPEAKERIf anybody tripped over that cable,

1:00:29SPEAKERit might rip the port right out of the card, right?

1:00:31SPEAKER- Yeah, that seems very expensive.

1:00:33SPEAKERThis is a similar concern I have

1:00:35SPEAKERand there's no MagSafe HDMI cables that I'm aware of.

1:00:37SPEAKER- Actually, let me just grab the end of it real fast

1:00:39SPEAKERand show it to you while I talk very loudly

1:00:41SPEAKERso you can still hear me.

1:00:43SPEAKER- We can't hear you.

1:00:45SPEAKERWe couldn't hear him.

1:00:47SPEAKERWait, do you have wireless headphones?

1:00:48SPEAKERCan you hear me through the wireless headphones right now?

1:00:50SPEAKER- No, it's just a very long microphone cable.

1:00:53SPEAKER- Okay, okay.

1:00:55SPEAKER- Actually, we're all over the place this week.

1:00:57SPEAKER- Expecting to have a guest on this podcast,

1:00:59SPEAKERbut I guess the wallet already showed up,

1:01:01SPEAKERso why stop there, right?

1:01:03SPEAKERHere is the HDMI cable in question.

1:01:07SPEAKERIt is, I think it's like 24 gauge cable or something.

1:01:09SPEAKERIt's very thick.

1:01:10SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a chunky cable.

1:01:12SPEAKER- I've got like a little six inch extender

1:01:14SPEAKERthat's just male to female.

1:01:15SPEAKERSo, and this is like a much lighter gauge.

1:01:18SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:01:18SPEAKER- So there's a lot of flex on the cable

1:01:20SPEAKERgoing up to the video card.

1:01:22SPEAKER- So the heavy part of the cable is supported by the,

1:01:24SPEAKERyeah, that makes a ton of sense.

1:01:25SPEAKERThat's really smart.

1:01:26SPEAKER- And so then I've got,

1:01:27SPEAKERhere's the actual extender thing that I was talking about,

1:01:29SPEAKERwhich is, it's male to female.

1:01:32SPEAKERIt's got a hinge and then it also rotates.

1:01:35SPEAKER- Do those work with the newer versions of HDMI?

1:01:38SPEAKER- This, I would guess, I bought this in like 2012

1:01:40SPEAKERor something, I would guess this does not,

1:01:43SPEAKERbut I would assume they've probably got

1:01:45SPEAKERupgraded versions at this point.

1:01:46SPEAKER- Well, if you're just doing 1080p, it's probably fine,

1:01:47SPEAKERbut when you get beyond that, it won't work, I bet.

1:01:49SPEAKER- Right, but like you can envision,

1:01:51SPEAKERlike this thing is plugged at a 90 degree angle

1:01:54SPEAKERinto the video card.

1:01:56SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:01:57SPEAKER- And so it can go up and down

1:01:58SPEAKERand then when it gets pulled down the hall,

1:01:59SPEAKERit can also rotate out the door.

1:02:01SPEAKER- Like that's fabulous, yeah.

1:02:02SPEAKER- This is hard to get across in an audio only form,

1:02:06SPEAKERbut if you're running long cables

1:02:08SPEAKERor doing weird stuff with video cables,

1:02:10SPEAKERthese things can be a lifesaver and also a port saver.

1:02:15SPEAKER- Well, so we have a handful,

1:02:17SPEAKERthere's enough things that we want to,

1:02:18SPEAKERI think we should do pictures of, I'll post,

1:02:20SPEAKERwe'll post a link in the show notes to a get book page

1:02:23SPEAKERthat has lists of all of this stuff

1:02:25SPEAKERso that people can find it with links to Amazon

1:02:27SPEAKERand the whole deal.

1:02:28SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a good idea.

1:02:30SPEAKER- My last thing, also cable related.

1:02:33SPEAKERI forgot about these, but they're these little,

1:02:36SPEAKERthey're called cable grabbers.

1:02:38SPEAKERBunch of people make them,

1:02:39SPEAKERbut I think Blue Lounge is the one who started making them.

1:02:41SPEAKERThey come in a bunch of different sizes,

1:02:43SPEAKERbut basically they're like these little plastic doohickeys

1:02:47SPEAKERwith like a groove, a cable sized hole on the top.

1:02:50SPEAKER- More of a doohickey than a doober, huh?

1:02:52SPEAKER- This is more of a doohickey, I think, yeah.

1:02:54SPEAKERAnd like, you can kind of pinch them open

1:02:56SPEAKERto drop a cable in there,

1:02:57SPEAKERbut they'll grip it just enough that it,

1:02:59SPEAKERlike the end won't fall through.

1:03:01SPEAKERAnd I use them for cable runs that I don't want to have

1:03:05SPEAKERlike a dedicated cable management thing on,

1:03:08SPEAKERbut it lets me, like it,

1:03:10SPEAKERI have all the cables that come off

1:03:12SPEAKERof the back of my desk now,

1:03:13SPEAKERrun to those so that they don't wobble from side to side.

1:03:16SPEAKERIf I move something around or something like that.

1:03:18SPEAKERAnd they, some of them,

1:03:21SPEAKERmost of them come with like a foam tape,

1:03:23SPEAKERtwo-sided tape on them.

1:03:25SPEAKERI've been pulling all of that off

1:03:26SPEAKERand putting the nano bubble stuff

1:03:28SPEAKERthat we talked about a couple of weeks ago on,

1:03:30SPEAKERand it works a charm.

1:03:32SPEAKER- I think a bunch of people on the Discord

1:03:33SPEAKERgot very excited about that stuff after you talked about it.

1:03:36SPEAKERI haven't tried it yet.

1:03:37SPEAKER- I'll put the nano bubble on the list too,

1:03:40SPEAKER'cause people didn't ask about it.

1:03:40SPEAKER- Just to refresh people's memory,

1:03:41SPEAKERthat's just kind of a very highly grippy surface, right?

1:03:44SPEAKER- Without any actual adhesive involved?

1:03:46SPEAKERIs that correct? - Yeah, so it's a foam,

1:03:47SPEAKERit's a foam tape, it's an adhesive on one side,

1:03:51SPEAKERalthough you can get it with double bubble side now.

1:03:54SPEAKERAnd the other side is- - Ooh, the double bubble.

1:03:55SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1:03:56SPEAKERThe other side is a bunch of like half bubbles.

1:03:58SPEAKERSo it's like mini microscopically small suction cups

1:04:02SPEAKERthat when you push down on the surface, it locks in place.

1:04:05SPEAKER- Okay.

1:04:06SPEAKER- And you can, like you can peel it back

1:04:09SPEAKERjust like you would a suction cup or something like that.

1:04:11SPEAKEROnce you break the suction, it comes off easily,

1:04:13SPEAKERbut there's no adhesive.

1:04:14SPEAKERSo there's no residue and it can go on anything

1:04:16SPEAKERthat is a relatively smooth surface.

1:04:17SPEAKER- I was just about to ask, here is a question.

1:04:20SPEAKERHave you found surfaces that will not adhere to that stuff?

1:04:23SPEAKER- So like an unfinished wood won't work.

1:04:25SPEAKER- Oh, okay.

1:04:26SPEAKER- Because, but like a poly-coated-

1:04:28SPEAKER- Not enough surface area 'cause it's too grainy.

1:04:30SPEAKER- Yeah, there's the,

1:04:32SPEAKERsomething that's stuff that's dusty doesn't work either.

1:04:35SPEAKER- Okay.

1:04:36SPEAKER- But like my desk is a finished wood

1:04:38SPEAKERand that it sticks great to that.

1:04:41SPEAKERCabinets, countertops, anything metal or stone

1:04:46SPEAKERthat's like smooth surface stone works.

1:04:48SPEAKERThe back of an iPad works.

1:04:49SPEAKER- Interesting.

1:04:51SPEAKER- Yeah, there's a lot of options.

1:04:53SPEAKERIt turns out in our electronic world,

1:04:56SPEAKERthere's a lot of stuff that fits the bill for this.

1:04:57SPEAKER- Yes, I'm sure.

1:04:58SPEAKER- Grip and adhesive are such a strange category

1:05:01SPEAKERof materials and interactions.

1:05:04SPEAKER- We're working our way closer to that glue episode.

1:05:06SPEAKER- I was gonna say, even the people who make it don't know.

1:05:08SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:05:09SPEAKER- I asked that question 'cause do you remember,

1:05:11SPEAKERthis must've been like two plus years ago at this point,

1:05:14SPEAKERI was briefly talking to you about three,

1:05:16SPEAKERyou having you 3D print me a mount for an Astro mix amp.

1:05:21SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:05:22SPEAKER- And then I abruptly stopped asking you about it.

1:05:23SPEAKER- Yeah, I was gonna cut a laser cut one for you, I think.

1:05:28SPEAKER- You had some ideas about how to make

1:05:29SPEAKERsome kind of mounting bracket for one of those things.

1:05:30SPEAKER- I made prototypes, yeah.

1:05:32SPEAKER- And then I just gave up asking you.

1:05:34SPEAKERThe whole reason was the model I had had a silica,

1:05:39SPEAKERI think it must've been a silicone base.

1:05:40SPEAKERI don't know for sure,

1:05:41SPEAKERbut I'm pretty sure that's what that material was.

1:05:43SPEAKERIt's like a rubberish kind of rubberized material,

1:05:46SPEAKERbut incredibly slick to the touch.

1:05:48SPEAKER- And then it gets really tacky over time.

1:05:50SPEAKER- Well, I've never used it long enough

1:05:51SPEAKER'cause I took it straight brand new out of the package,

1:05:54SPEAKERintending to mount it to the bottom of my desk.

1:05:56SPEAKERAnd I stuck the 3M command strip,

1:05:59SPEAKERlike nice grippy, you know,

1:06:01SPEAKERnew age Velcro type stuff on there.

1:06:03SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:06:04SPEAKER- Stuck it to the bottom of that thing, like felt right off.

1:06:06SPEAKERLike the adhesive would not adhere to that silicone surface

1:06:10SPEAKERat all, like not in the slightest.

1:06:13SPEAKERIt was like the weirdest thing I have ever seen.

1:06:15SPEAKER- Wow.

1:06:16SPEAKER- Because you expect that kind of heavy duty,

1:06:18SPEAKERlike industrial adhesive to stick to anything, right?

1:06:20SPEAKERIt just like, it literally made,

1:06:23SPEAKERlike it didn't bind in the slightest.

1:06:25SPEAKERIt was crazy.

1:06:26SPEAKER- Van der Waals forces are fickle, Brad.

1:06:28SPEAKER- I guess so, right?

1:06:29SPEAKERYeah, so anyway, what I ended up doing was realizing

1:06:33SPEAKERI could just rip that silicone base off and...

1:06:35SPEAKER- Oh, yeah.

1:06:36SPEAKER- Stick the command strips directly on the plastic, so.

1:06:38SPEAKER- I often will do, like I get Velcro tape

1:06:44SPEAKERand we'll just make loops and dangle it in the loops

1:06:46SPEAKERand put a little piece of like a Velcro dot on there

1:06:48SPEAKERto hold it in place.

1:06:50SPEAKER- Hang on.

1:06:53SPEAKERI just thought of one more thing

1:06:55SPEAKERsince we're talking about it.

1:06:56SPEAKER- Wait, is there something that's glued under my chair?

1:06:59SPEAKER- Maybe, if you look under your chair,

1:07:01SPEAKERyou're all gonna find out.

1:07:03SPEAKERI just found this stuff recently.

1:07:05SPEAKERDo you use command strips?

1:07:06SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:07:07SPEAKER- You know what I'm talking about?

1:07:07SPEAKER- Yeah, so command strips are usually one side.

1:07:11SPEAKERActually, both sides usually are the post-it note basically.

1:07:15SPEAKER- Yes, well, it's similar in concept to Velcro

1:07:18SPEAKERexcept instead of a loops on one side,

1:07:20SPEAKERhooks on the other type of deal,

1:07:22SPEAKERthey're both the same kind of weird plastic teeth

1:07:26SPEAKERon both sides.

1:07:27SPEAKER- So no, that stuff's different.

1:07:28SPEAKERCommand strips are different than that.

1:07:29SPEAKERCommand strips are the ones that have the pull tab

1:07:31SPEAKERon the end that breaks the seal when you pull the thing.

1:07:35SPEAKER- I should have clarified

1:07:35SPEAKERbecause there are multiple types of products

1:07:37SPEAKERmarketed under the command strip name.

1:07:39SPEAKERI forgot, I totally forgot about the kitchen hook variety.

1:07:42SPEAKERYou're talking about the ones

1:07:43SPEAKERthat's just adhesive and a hook, right?

1:07:45SPEAKER- Well, I mean, they sell just the adhesive too.

1:07:46SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:07:47SPEAKERSo I should have clarified

1:07:49SPEAKERit's the picture hanging kit command strip

1:07:51SPEAKERis what I'm talking about.

1:07:52SPEAKERDo you know what I'm talking about?

1:07:53SPEAKERHave you seen those?

1:07:54SPEAKER- No, I haven't seen that.

1:07:55SPEAKER- So they're the ones that use

1:07:56SPEAKERthis kind of plastic Velcro analog.

1:08:00SPEAKERAnyway, the whole reason I brought it up on here

1:08:02SPEAKERis that I found a cheaper source of it.

1:08:04SPEAKERIt's still made by 3M, they're all made by 3M,

1:08:07SPEAKERexcept they sell this stuff under the name dual lock,

1:08:11SPEAKER3M dual lock, and they sell it by the foot

1:08:13SPEAKERinstead of like, because the command strip,

1:08:14SPEAKERthe picture hanging stuff is very expensive.

1:08:17SPEAKERIt's like 12, 15 bucks for like

1:08:19SPEAKERa half dozen small little strips.

1:08:22SPEAKER- And that stuff will hold what, like 20 pounds?

1:08:24SPEAKER- This stuff is like 15 bucks for four feet of it.

1:08:27SPEAKER- Oh, that's awesome.

1:08:28SPEAKER- The lock is incredibly tight.

1:08:30SPEAKER- Do you need, and both sides are the same for that.

1:08:33SPEAKERIt's not like Velcro, right?

1:08:34SPEAKER- That's what I was saying.

1:08:35SPEAKERYeah, they all use the same kind of like

1:08:37SPEAKERvery rigid plastic teeth that lock together.

1:08:39SPEAKERAnd yeah, I've got multiple things mounted under my desk

1:08:41SPEAKERwith the stuff and it's incredibly strong.

1:08:43SPEAKER- Oh, that's a good call.

1:08:44SPEAKER- It is, yeah, 3M dual lock is what you're looking for.

1:08:47SPEAKERYou can just buy it by the roll.

1:08:49SPEAKER- That's awesome.

1:08:50SPEAKER- It has been pretty great for mounting stuff

1:08:52SPEAKERunderneath stuff, right up until it falls off.

1:08:55SPEAKER- I like to put my stuff under my other stuff.

1:08:57SPEAKER- It's been a couple of years since I've been mounting stuff

1:09:00SPEAKERunder stuff with this stuff and nothing has fallen yet.

1:09:02SPEAKERSo I think I'm okay, but.

1:09:05SPEAKER- So somebody on my stream the other night

1:09:06SPEAKERsuggested getting the stuff that,

1:09:09SPEAKERI have a foot rest under my desk that I love,

1:09:12SPEAKERbut like it moves around because I have hardwood.

1:09:15SPEAKERAnd somebody was like, why don't you just get the stuff

1:09:16SPEAKERthat makes your furniture and your rugs not move

1:09:19SPEAKERand put that on the bottom?

1:09:19SPEAKERAnd I was like, that is an absolute brain genius idea.

1:09:22SPEAKERSo I did that.

1:09:23SPEAKER- Sure.

1:09:24SPEAKER- And now it doesn't move.

1:09:24SPEAKERIt's perfect. - That sounds great.

1:09:25SPEAKERThat sounds pretty good.

1:09:26SPEAKER- Highly recommended.

1:09:27SPEAKER- Grip is good.

1:09:28SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:09:29SPEAKER- I would say.

1:09:31SPEAKER- Grip is good.

1:09:32SPEAKERIt is perfect.

1:09:32SPEAKER- Yes.

1:09:34SPEAKERI guess that's it.

1:09:36SPEAKERI had one other thing off the top of the head

1:09:38SPEAKERand I totally forgot what it was.

1:09:40SPEAKERMaybe I should just leave it.

1:09:41SPEAKER- I feel like I hope we'll get some good feedback

1:09:44SPEAKERfrom listeners.

1:09:46SPEAKER- Yes.

1:09:47SPEAKER- Of the things like this that fit their category.

1:09:49SPEAKER- Yes.

1:09:51SPEAKER- Please send emails.

1:09:52SPEAKERI know we usually talk about the Discord

1:09:54SPEAKERbeing the right place to talk to us about stuff like this,

1:09:57SPEAKERbut in this case, the Discord is real good

1:10:01SPEAKERbecause it lets us know.

1:10:03SPEAKERI mean, the email is really good

1:10:04SPEAKER'cause it lets us collect everything in an easy place.

1:10:06SPEAKER- Yes, yes.

1:10:07SPEAKER- So if you have suggestions, send them to email

1:10:08SPEAKERand put like, let's make the subject lines hardware,

1:10:14SPEAKERhardware tools, maybe?

1:10:15SPEAKER- Hardware unitasker.

1:10:17SPEAKER- Hardware unitasker.

1:10:18SPEAKERYeah, I was trying to avoid that, but okay.

1:10:22SPEAKERAnd yeah, that'll, we'll collect all of these,

1:10:25SPEAKERmaybe in the email episode this month,

1:10:27SPEAKERthe best ones and share the learnings.

1:10:29SPEAKERI'm sure there'll be a big discussion

1:10:30SPEAKERin the Patreon Discord.

1:10:32SPEAKER- Yes, totally.

1:10:34SPEAKER- Which you can find out more about

1:10:35SPEAKERby going to patreon.com/techpod.

1:10:39SPEAKERAs always, thank you so much to all of our patrons,

1:10:43SPEAKERbut especially our executive producer level patrons,

1:10:46SPEAKERAndrew Cott and David Allen and Jacob Chappell, sorry.

1:10:51SPEAKERAnd yeah, if you wanna find out more,

1:10:53SPEAKERBrad, I noticed you made another new channel,

1:10:55SPEAKERI thought we were on a channel moratorium, man.

1:10:57SPEAKER- Were we?

1:10:58SPEAKERI don't remember that being a formal rule necessarily.

1:11:01SPEAKER- It wasn't formal, but I felt like we were slowing down.

1:11:04SPEAKERI like the new channel, I'm a fan.

1:11:05SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:11:06SPEAKER- I like the work you've done there.

1:11:07SPEAKER- The PC builds and hardware?

1:11:09SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:11:10SPEAKER- That's the one you're talking about?

1:11:12SPEAKER- Yeah, the PC builds and hardware

1:11:14SPEAKERis the one I was thinking about.

1:11:14SPEAKERI feel like Zander maybe had the best name suggestion

1:11:20SPEAKERI've seen for that one.

1:11:21SPEAKER- 'Cause you know, we've had old ass computers for a long

1:11:23SPEAKERtime.

1:11:24SPEAKER- Yes, yes, there was some demand for new ass computers.

1:11:26SPEAKER- New ass computers is the obvious choice.

1:11:29SPEAKER- Yes, but you know how Discord inserts hyphens

1:11:32SPEAKERfor spaces in all channel names?

1:11:34SPEAKER- Yes.

1:11:35SPEAKER- That has proved to be a bit confusing for some people

1:11:38SPEAKERbecause they don't necessarily immediately realize

1:11:42SPEAKERwhere the actual hyphen is.

1:11:43SPEAKER- They think it's ass computers and not old ass.

1:11:47SPEAKER- Have come in talking about old ass computers.

1:11:50SPEAKER- What's an ass computer, Brad?

1:11:52SPEAKER- You know, I've been pondering that question myself

1:11:54SPEAKERfor some weeks.

1:11:55SPEAKER- I mean, I had a wang, but I don't think you would consider

1:11:57SPEAKERthat an ass computer.

1:11:58SPEAKER- Have not come to any conclusions just yet.

1:12:01SPEAKERGod, this is killing me.

1:12:03SPEAKERWe're probably just gonna have to end this episode.

1:12:05SPEAKERI'm racking my brain trying to think of the one last item

1:12:09SPEAKERthat I was going to bring up.

1:12:12SPEAKER- Oh, hello, yes.

1:12:14SPEAKER- I just thought of it.

1:12:15SPEAKERI posed this question on the Discord.

1:12:17SPEAKERPeople heavily discouraged me, I think, including you.

1:12:21SPEAKERLike I said, in addition to the 24 year old wallet

1:12:25SPEAKERand the 15 year old monitors, which by the way,

1:12:26SPEAKERare going to go any day now.

1:12:29SPEAKERIf anybody in the Bay Area wants to own the monitors

1:12:31SPEAKERthat started it all.

1:12:32SPEAKER- Own a piece of history.

1:12:33SPEAKER- That's right.

1:12:34SPEAKER- Don't do this.

1:12:35SPEAKER- Oh no, you know what?

1:12:36SPEAKERWe should call it Fitz.

1:12:37SPEAKERWe should ship these monitors to Fitz.

1:12:39SPEAKER- Fitz doesn't, nobody wants these monitors, Brad.

1:12:41SPEAKER- He'll put them in his museum, right?

1:12:42SPEAKERThese are a piece of history.

1:12:44SPEAKER- These are garbage.

1:12:45SPEAKERThese should be gone to the electronic recycling places

1:12:47SPEAKERas soon as possible.

1:12:48SPEAKER- They still work, God damn it.

1:12:51SPEAKERIn addition to the 15 year old monitors

1:12:52SPEAKERand the 24 year old wallet, as I mentioned,

1:12:54SPEAKERI have this 17 year old desk chair

1:12:57SPEAKERthat is slowly sinking finally.

1:12:59SPEAKER- Yes, yes.

1:13:00SPEAKER- And I was looking at replacement gas cylinders on Amazon.

1:13:04SPEAKER- Don't do that.

1:13:04SPEAKER- They're like 40 bucks.

1:13:06SPEAKER- How much are your teeth worth, Brad?

1:13:09SPEAKER- Probably more than 40 bucks.

1:13:11SPEAKER- Yeah, so the thing about replacing the gas cylinder

1:13:14SPEAKERin an office chair is that you have to be prepared

1:13:16SPEAKERfor a fairly substantial explosion

1:13:19SPEAKERwhen you take those things off and put them on

1:13:21SPEAKER'cause it's going to rocket out.

1:13:26SPEAKERHonestly, it's a 17 year old chair.

1:13:28SPEAKERIt's probably not gonna be that scary,

1:13:30SPEAKERbut also it's like manual espresso machines

1:13:34SPEAKERwhere you have a big spring loaded lever

1:13:35SPEAKERyou have to pull down.

1:13:37SPEAKERLike those things are really cool.

1:13:38SPEAKERAnd when you go to a cafe that has those,

1:13:40SPEAKERyou should turn around and walk out

1:13:42SPEAKERbecause it's inhumane to the baristas

1:13:44SPEAKERbecause it's literally only a matter of time

1:13:46SPEAKERbefore somebody catches that bar with their chin

1:13:48SPEAKERand shatters their jaw.

1:13:50SPEAKERSo yeah, be careful of hydraulic cylinders.

1:13:53SPEAKERThey're scary.

1:13:54SPEAKER- Okay, okay.

1:13:55SPEAKER- Well, hydraulics kill.

1:13:56SPEAKER- Yeah, also people made it sound like it's just

1:13:59SPEAKERa way bigger pain in the ass to replace than you think.

1:14:01SPEAKERAnd that probably scared me off of it.

1:14:03SPEAKER- Plus everything else about your chair

1:14:05SPEAKERis blown out at this point.

1:14:06SPEAKERIf the cylinder is no good, the rest of the chair.

1:14:09SPEAKER- Surprisingly good shape for its age,

1:14:10SPEAKERbut you're probably right.

1:14:12SPEAKERI should probably get a new chair.

1:14:13SPEAKER- You should give that chair the Viking funeral

1:14:15SPEAKERthat it deserves.

1:14:17SPEAKER- Should I pile the two monitors in the chair,

1:14:21SPEAKERstick the wallet in there somewhere,

1:14:23SPEAKERtake it down to Ocean Beach, shove it out into the water.

1:14:28SPEAKER- No, no, no.

1:14:29SPEAKERYou take it up to Moraga, the top of the Moraga Hill.

1:14:32SPEAKERWhen you put it on one of those streets,

1:14:33SPEAKERit's a straight shot down the side of the mountain

1:14:34SPEAKERwith the monitors and the wallet.

1:14:36SPEAKERAnd then you light it on fire

1:14:38SPEAKERand push it down the hill and run.

1:14:41SPEAKER- I'm sure that'll go just fine.

1:14:42SPEAKER- The 5-0 loves that stuff.

1:14:43SPEAKER- Yes, I bet they do.

1:14:44SPEAKERI do want to, there's a last thing I'll mention

1:14:46SPEAKERwe can go.

1:14:47SPEAKER- You can ride it down the hill.

1:14:48SPEAKERThey do a, you know, they do an office chair race

1:14:50SPEAKERdown Folsom Street.

1:14:52SPEAKER- I should enter old Bessie in that one.

1:14:55SPEAKER- Yeah, if you want to get really, really badly injured

1:14:57SPEAKERwhile destroying a chair, perfect.

1:14:59SPEAKERDo I have the event for you?

1:15:01SPEAKER- Last thing I was gonna say,

1:15:02SPEAKERwhether I get a new chair or not,

1:15:04SPEAKERI kind of, I've been eyeing those roller blade wheels

1:15:07SPEAKERfor office chairs.

1:15:07SPEAKERHave you seen those?

1:15:08SPEAKER- I've kind of thought about that for mine.

1:15:10SPEAKERYeah, they look really dumb.

1:15:11SPEAKER- Well, I'm sure, yes, they do look dumb,

1:15:13SPEAKERbut they sound useful.

1:15:14SPEAKERLike they say that they are basically silent

1:15:16SPEAKERor very, very quiet compared to crappy,

1:15:18SPEAKERnormal office chair wheels.

1:15:20SPEAKERAnd apparently they glide quite a bit more smoothly.

1:15:24SPEAKER- So I have hardwood wheels on my gesture and I love them.

1:15:30SPEAKERI wish I had a way to like chalk it in place and lock them

1:15:33SPEAKER'cause they don't lock.

1:15:35SPEAKERUsually it is not a problem,

1:15:36SPEAKERbut sometimes if I'm playing a game and I'm like, you know,

1:15:39SPEAKERVR-ing or whatever in the chair,

1:15:40SPEAKERthen I rock it side to side and it gets to be a bit much.

1:15:43SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:15:44SPEAKERLet me ask you this, Brad.

1:15:45SPEAKERWhen you replace that chair,

1:15:46SPEAKERhave you ever thought about getting a subwoofer

1:15:48SPEAKERfor the chair?

1:15:49SPEAKER- What?

1:15:50SPEAKER- Like a butt kicker.

1:15:51SPEAKERDo you know about this?

1:15:52SPEAKERDo you remember this?

1:15:52SPEAKER- Like an in-home D-box?

1:15:53SPEAKERIs that what we're talking about?

1:15:55SPEAKER- Do they still make these?

1:15:56SPEAKERThis was a thing that came out in like 2006 and I saw it

1:16:00SPEAKERand I was like, that's kind of silly, but okay, I'm into it.

1:16:03SPEAKER- Is it built into the chair or is that the one

1:16:04SPEAKERthat like lays on top of your chair?

1:16:06SPEAKER- Used to be bolted onto the chair somehow.

1:16:08SPEAKER- Yes.

1:16:09SPEAKER- Yeah, it's an add on.

1:16:11SPEAKERI think you should get a butt kicker when you get the chair.

1:16:12SPEAKERThat's the takeaway.

1:16:14SPEAKER- That's just forced feedback for your rump.

1:16:17SPEAKER- Feel the game, feel the game.

1:16:18SPEAKER- Yes, I can't wait.

1:16:21SPEAKER- So I guess that'll do it for us this week.

1:16:23SPEAKERThanks everybody for listening.

1:16:24SPEAKERAs always, we really appreciate support of the Patreon.

1:16:29SPEAKERThe URL for that again is patreon.com/techpod.

1:16:34SPEAKER- Yes, thank you so much.

1:16:35SPEAKER- We're coming up on another email episode

1:16:37SPEAKERand we haven't gotten a ton of emails yet.

1:16:39SPEAKERSo if you have questions about either episodes

1:16:41SPEAKERor just general tech stuff,

1:16:43SPEAKERyou can email us at techpod@content.town.

1:16:47SPEAKERAnd--

1:16:48SPEAKER- Or you know, or hardware doohickeys or doodads

1:16:51SPEAKERor clump waddles, what was the term you used?

1:16:55SPEAKER- Cattywampus, cattywampus means it's crooked.

1:16:57SPEAKERIt's not, it's off center.

1:16:58SPEAKER- I'm sorry, I just made something up.

1:17:01SPEAKER- Clump waddles, good God, man.

1:17:03SPEAKER- Thanks for listening everybody.

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