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358: It's a DE-rail, Not a DB-rail

2026-09-27 · 1:12:26

00:00SPEAKERwell an old friend is joining us for the podcast this week wait there's nobody in the call this is

00:04SPEAKERa stealth friend oh okay surprise friend hello friend this friend is under my desk oh wow

00:12SPEAKERi didn't realize it was that kind of show i'm gonna see if i get a friend under my desk too

00:15SPEAKERthat sounds great move on from the implications of that statement the dbx 286 s is back oh great

00:23SPEAKERfantastic i haven't heard you go crackle yet so i assume yeah long long time listeners of the show

00:29SPEAKERmay remember my my fuzzing out problem it well they never heard it though i think i think i put

00:34SPEAKERit in the show once or twice like when we were talking about it okay we talked about it enough

00:38SPEAKERthat i was like i should put an example or two of this in there so people can hear what's going on

00:42SPEAKERyeah you sent it away though and i finally yeah the two-year warranty was looming and finally i

00:50SPEAKERwas like i should rma this i should at least try to get this fixed before i just give up on it and

00:54SPEAKERthrow it in the river yeah you you had what i can only really call like a toxic codependent

01:00SPEAKERrelationship with that thing because it's such a bummer man because it does exactly what i needed

01:04SPEAKERto do it just wasn't doing what i needed it to do well it was doing that it was also doing one

01:08SPEAKERother thing which was randomly giving you staticky right with no way to predict or no way to

01:13SPEAKERanticipate yeah it's a we've talked about it before but it's an analog channel strip or pre-processor

01:18SPEAKERor whatever you want to call it it takes the raw audio from my microphone and applies all kinds of

01:23SPEAKERyou know ds and compressor and and high pass filter and noise gate and you know all that

01:30SPEAKERi get nice clean sounding audio out of it yeah into the computer the reason you use something

01:34SPEAKERlike that like i my mixer does that in software but the reason you use something like that is so

01:39SPEAKERthat you get clean sounding good audio that's compressed and like audio compressed not mp3

01:44SPEAKERcompressed yes and and that comes out of your signal so you're you're you're basically ready

01:50SPEAKERto edit with what you send now yeah and most of that you can do in software in post-production

01:54SPEAKERwhich is what i was doing for the whole time that i have not had this thing um but it's nice to have

01:59SPEAKERa piece of hardware because then you get the benefits of it everywhere and not just in

02:03SPEAKERsituations where you're using software to do that yeah like on live streams right yes like it's

02:08SPEAKERharder to do that in like a zoom call or on discord and like i have gotten i'm going to tell

02:13SPEAKERyou the all the hassle with this thing has been justified every time i've been on some random like

02:17SPEAKERbusiness zoom call or in a discord with my college friends yeah and having somebody go like man you

02:22SPEAKERsound like god yeah people notice it's it's actually fun to have that anyway um i've got

02:28SPEAKERthe work order here in front of me and i was kind of impressed with it oh we talked about this like

02:32SPEAKERa month ago when i had submitted the rma and they had tried to charge me like half the price of the

02:37SPEAKERunit to look at it and fix it yeah and you explained to them what a warranty was at that

02:41SPEAKERpoint i believe they were cool about it once i pointed it out they just like immediately issued

02:45SPEAKERme another rma for without a fee on it tried to sneak one by you though that that feels not cool

02:51SPEAKERi feel i feel kind of validated because okay first of all i'm actually impressed with the technicians

02:56SPEAKERnotes on this work order there's like kind of a surprising amount of detail and i feel pretty

03:00SPEAKERvalidated because it is exactly what i thought it was going to be based on all the youtube videos

03:06SPEAKERi saw about this thing crap solders yeah well they don't say that but so okay technicians notes

03:11SPEAKERsymptom the audio output often fuzzy and garbled findings i sees u7 u11 u15 defective so that's

03:20SPEAKERexactly what all those youtube videos that we're fixing this thing we're finding is like hey some

03:24SPEAKERof the chips are just not soldered well to this thing and if you just reflow those chips it turns

03:30SPEAKERout to be fine well well there you go but then actions due to the lack of replacement i see is

03:35SPEAKERthe main pcb was replaced a three-hour burn-in was performed to verify repair tested unit to

03:42SPEAKERfactory specification so okay this leads me to some questions this is this is so i've i've already

03:50SPEAKERmade a lot of stuff over the years and sometimes you just get a brand new part back with no fix

03:54SPEAKERno notes yes the worst one i've ever heard of was a friend of mine had to send his video card back

04:00SPEAKERwhich i think was at 4080 and when he got it back they didn't tell him like it was crashing

04:06SPEAKERwhen it was when he was using it and they were like yeah we're pretty sure you need to discipline

04:10SPEAKERthey just sent the card back without a note that was like it just said repaired yes that's

04:14SPEAKERthat is the nightmare scenario or i think maybe even the worst the worst nightmare scenario is

04:19SPEAKERlike could not reproduce didn't fix like if they basically say like hey we couldn't reproduce your

04:23SPEAKERproblem we just send it back like that's the actual worst yeah that is the worst but the

04:27SPEAKERsecond worst is what you just described of they say they fixed it but they didn't say what was

04:31SPEAKERwrong with it or why and then it comes back and has more problems yeah um i was pretty surprised

04:37SPEAKERthat they actually said what they found wrong with it but okay again this leads to some questions

04:41SPEAKERyeah presumably they've got some kind of diagnostic system that easily will tell them which chips on

04:46SPEAKERthe board are not working right yeah i doubt there was a technician in there like continuity testing

04:50SPEAKERevery chip on that board manually to determine that and further they mentioned that they have

04:55SPEAKERa burn-in test that will validate factory specification so here's my question yeah how

05:01SPEAKERmuch do you want to bet they are not running any of these validation tests on new units coming out

05:06SPEAKERof the factory and are only saving these tests for units that somebody complains about i bet that

05:12SPEAKERthere's a spreadsheet someplace this is the tyler durden problem right is it's cheaper for them to

05:16SPEAKERjust replace the ones that are bad than to find them when they're bad coming out of the factory

05:20SPEAKERit's like look it's possible they run the burn-in your problem a it didn't take it took a long time

05:26SPEAKERto show if i recall yes that's the worst thing about this problem is it was so sporadic that

05:31SPEAKERlike like i would go like two weeks without it manifesting and then one day it would happen

05:35SPEAKERover and over and over and then it would be another month until it happened again but but

05:38SPEAKEReven beyond that it took a month or two before you saw it happen the first time if i remember

05:43SPEAKERyeah so i was out of the return window yeah i think 30 days before i ever noticed it well so

05:48SPEAKERit also it was also one of those things where it was like is is the uh surge protector is plugged

05:53SPEAKERinto bad is it just getting bad power yeah is there like a ground loop somewhere you know like

05:58SPEAKERit was when when electricity and analog audio are involved it could be any number of gremlins so i

06:03SPEAKERwasn't sure it was the unit until i was well but but i guess my point is i don't know that a burn-in

06:08SPEAKERwould have caught it given the amount of time you used that before you had any problems don't say

06:12SPEAKERthat don't say that because when they said they just swap a new mainboard into it i kind of worried

06:18SPEAKERa little bit because i was like what if that new mainboard's got the same problem yeah i don't feel

06:22SPEAKERgreat about that that's yeah so so yes that is to say i'm in a holding pattern on this thing

06:27SPEAKERi'm still a bit on pins and needles well if this one goes bad i'll bring the soldering iron over

06:32SPEAKERand we'll just we'll just solder now that we know which three chips are the are the are the

06:36SPEAKERproblems we can just fix it that is the future of consumer electronics learning how to fix the

06:41SPEAKERproducts you bought yourself

07:11SPEAKERwelcome to brad and will made a tech pod i'm will i am brad i you know i kind of don't think our

07:17SPEAKERcyberpunk future okay there's bits and pieces of the cyberpunk future that are undoubtedly bad

07:22SPEAKERbut learning how to fix your stuff doesn't feel bad to me no it's in principle it's like especially

07:27SPEAKERif you're as into electronics as we are and people like us are it's actually a really good thing to

07:32SPEAKERknow how to solder effectively but you shouldn't have to when you buy a product from a company oh

07:37SPEAKERagreed but like like the the place that feels bad is when you're like desoldering ram because you

07:42SPEAKERcan't buy ram because it's being gobbled up by wailing utani did you see i saw um i saw a headline

07:48SPEAKERthe other day that's uh the raspberry pi people have now locked out in firmware changing the ram

07:54SPEAKERon a raspberry pi did you see this i did not see this the reason is that shady sellers are buying

08:00SPEAKERlow ram pies and desoldering the small amount of ram on them and getting like shitty substandard

08:05SPEAKERhigher capacity ram like you know factory rejects whatever they're sourcing bad but higher capacity

08:11SPEAKERram soldering it onto those things and then selling them at higher price oh boy yeah so

08:17SPEAKERthat's where we're at i guess things are great yeah um it's uh it's the end of the month brad

08:22SPEAKERhappy happy uh and happy autumn in the northern hemisphere i guess yeah i guess we just crossed

08:27SPEAKERthe the equinox or the solstice equinox is the is the solstice is the long and short days and

08:33SPEAKERequinox is the days that are equal okay oh i remember that's a great that is a great mnemonic

08:40SPEAKERare there two of two of each a year yeah there's spring and autumn and uh fall and winter and

08:46SPEAKERsummer okay all right so what's the winter and summer sorry i've learned something valuable

08:51SPEAKERthere you go yeah hey it's good that happens on a podcast occasionally hopefully everybody else

08:55SPEAKERlistening can learn something today uh to celebrate the equinox we're going to do the same thing we do

08:59SPEAKERat the end of every month and that is we're going we have we dug deep into our well of questions and

09:04SPEAKERcues both from email and discord and we are going to turn we had a bunch of them so we're going to

09:11SPEAKERturn some select number of them into a's i don't know how many we'll get to what we get to yeah

09:16SPEAKERuh but the email address is techpod at content.town if you're in the discord you can go to the

09:21SPEAKERquestions seeking answers channel and if you're not in the discord you can get in the discord

09:25SPEAKERby going to patreon.com slash techpod where for five bucks a month you get access to the full

09:30SPEAKERarchive of patron exclusive episodes you get access to the patron exclusive discord and you can talk

09:37SPEAKERabout things like this without having to wait for us to to answer your question so i was talking to

09:41SPEAKERpeople at 6 30 this morning about uh this web cert you know certificate uh renewal yeah that's that

09:48SPEAKERthose are the fun things you can do on our discord you got that you got that uh what's the free

09:53SPEAKERservice that gives you the certificates uh let's encrypt let's encrypt yes yes that's what i use

09:58SPEAKERi love that let's encrypt yeah yeah uh with the but i don't think we have any let's encrypt

10:03SPEAKERquestions this month so probably not no uh we'll see what we do have here before we go into

10:09SPEAKERquestions while you're looking for the first one i have an update because i think we had more

10:13SPEAKERresponse to this than anything we've ever talked about on the show that's a bold claim uh the

10:19SPEAKERcalendar syncing question that i asked last month yes we talked about a little bit on the patreon

10:24SPEAKERpatreon episode last month but i got a bazillion responses to that and people recommended a

10:30SPEAKERbazillion good looking tools and then somebody was like yo you use fantastical right it already

10:35SPEAKERdoes this so i'm using fantastical oh okay yeah all right yeah uh tip there is one challenge that

10:42SPEAKERi'm finding with that which is that it doesn't uh i also realize that fantastical does like the

10:48SPEAKERcalendly thing where you can say hey look at your calendar and then let people book meetings with

10:53SPEAKERyou online which is really convenient when you have people that like want to talk to you about

10:57SPEAKERpodcast advertising and stuff like that uh so i'm using that but it doesn't it doesn't because i'm

11:03SPEAKERnot using google for my calendar it doesn't let me use google meet for the for the meetings which

11:07SPEAKERis a little bit obnoxious but other than that everything's cool uh so yeah shout outs to

11:12SPEAKERfantastical for doing two-way sync from one calendar to the other and back again how many

11:16SPEAKERplatforms is that on that's not everything it's only on ios and there's a windows client now

11:22SPEAKERokay uh but on linux i basically uh i but basically i'm using the sync once you set up

11:28SPEAKERthe sync then you don't need to you know you can access those calendars from whatever tool you use

11:33SPEAKERyeah i started to ask is there a mac os version but are we at the point well i know you don't use

11:37SPEAKERmac os daily but are we at the point where if there's an ios app you can just automatically

11:42SPEAKERsay there's a mac os app like there i know there is some back and forth of of mobile apps running

11:46SPEAKERon mac os now but i don't think it's it's not an automatic thing right so yeah i think you can run

11:52SPEAKERios apps on anything now unless they specifically flag it as not compatible but this is a mac os

11:57SPEAKERversion of fantastical for like 15 years yeah yeah okay that makes sense all right let's get into some

12:03SPEAKERuser user listener listener listener listener is a good word we don't have videos we don't have

12:09SPEAKERwords just yeah i mean we don't written words i like saying user though look like i've watched

12:14SPEAKERtoo much tron maybe i well and also i i often think about like idle thumbs which is one of the

12:20SPEAKERall-time great gaming podcasts oh yeah and they called they called the people who wrote into them

12:26SPEAKERreaders i think aha okay just because of legacy print work so yes i idle thumbs boasts the all-time

12:32SPEAKERbest podcast episode title that will never be surpassed the silken goku that's pretty good and

12:39SPEAKERin reference to those mall kind of hot topic yeah up anime shirts that you would see yeah that was

12:46SPEAKERthey were roasted nick on that one if i remember right it's good time idle thumbs is good stuff

12:50SPEAKERyes anyway all right uh joe near seattle writes in routine use cases on my phone which is an iphone

12:58SPEAKER17 pro max will pretty much always start cutting out or slowing down or failing once dropping to

13:04SPEAKERtwo bars of signal out of four or even in some cases three bars and the data icon showing 5g

13:10SPEAKERwith or without a plus or some other added symbol seems meaningless if the cell bars are in this

13:15SPEAKERstate i've always thought going down to 25 or lower relative signal strength is the danger zone

13:21SPEAKERto expect but not expecting half of the signal to essentially mean everything stops if you're in a

13:27SPEAKERvery densely populated spot like a huge crowd or whatever this would be totally understandable but

13:31SPEAKERthis is nothing like that is this perhaps because i'm on an mvno i thought the caveat with those had

13:38SPEAKERmore to do with hitting your high speed data cap which i essentially never do there i ask if there

13:43SPEAKERis even a standard for how these icons must appear relative to the actual available signal and

13:48SPEAKERexpected performance are they allowed to just be liars or have no practical accuracy i would look

13:56SPEAKERat there isn't there is another rating you should look at that you probably need to call or dig into

14:01SPEAKERyour mvnos like plans to to determine which is qci because i had to look into this one i didn't have

14:09SPEAKERto look at the end of this but i'm me so i did when i moved to an mvno qci is the quality of

14:16SPEAKERservice class identifier for your cell plan which is basically like really what it is is they

14:22SPEAKERprioritize traffic they shape and prioritize your traffic based on like how much you're paying them

14:26SPEAKERand like how important they think you are so so it's like it is an arbitrary priority rating that

14:33SPEAKERyou again may have to like dig into some things to find out but like you might be you might be at a

14:38SPEAKERlower tier of priority so you might just be like it could very well be a situation where you have

14:43SPEAKERgood signal but you are getting bumped down in like traffic access because there are quote

14:48SPEAKERunquote more important customers using the network some of the mvnos do that the signal strength

14:53SPEAKERthing is different than that though i think uh because the signal strength they there's no

14:58SPEAKERstandard for displaying signal strength like two bars is not 50 of signal strength it's i believe

15:04SPEAKERthat as well for sure yeah so you can actually if you search for iphone field test mode signal

15:11SPEAKERstrength then you can find a guide the tldr is you have to open up a hidden menu by dialing some

15:16SPEAKERstuff on the keypad so it's built into the phone it's built into the phone it's different depending

15:22SPEAKERwhich version of ios you have which is why i'm not just giving a straight guide but generally

15:26SPEAKERspeaking you open up the phone and you dial something like star 3001 pound one two three

15:31SPEAKERfour five pound star and then and then call that number and it opens up the field test menu and

15:38SPEAKERthen you can see your phone's signal strength in decibels i gotta try this um yeah so the problem

15:44SPEAKERis that the scale is probably logarithmic would be my guess judging like i have a i have a couple

15:48SPEAKERplaces where one bar is absolute no signal near me and i have a couple places where one bar is fine

15:54SPEAKERand it's it's there's you used people to actually get the the decibel number in the menu on ios and

16:00SPEAKERthey killed that around ios 11 time frame this sounds fun yeah it's uh it's so the other thing

16:07SPEAKERis support to note is when you need to exit then you um swipe up from the bottom and just close the

16:12SPEAKERapp that's that's the only way you can close it i i love i love hidden diagnostics and low level

16:17SPEAKERstuff that are in embedded or like closed systems whether it's like game consoles or phones or

16:23SPEAKERwhatever things that don't normally expose stuff like that like being able to get to some like

16:27SPEAKERsecret dark dank menu that shows actual diagnostics two things to note the the

16:34SPEAKERthe number you're seeing is decibel milliwatts uh it's decibels are generally logarithmic like

16:40SPEAKERthree decibels is twice as strong as the other and because it's a negative signal the closer you are

16:45SPEAKERto zero the stronger the signal so negative 50 is stronger than negative 60 by a significant

16:50SPEAKERpercentage it's not it's not you know one six tenths or whatever yeah or five six it's uh uh

16:59SPEAKERtwice as four times as powerful or four times as strong so although although what he's describing

17:04SPEAKERlike three three bars i would expect to be resilient enough to at least like get data

17:10SPEAKERthroughput i i would also look up that qci or i guess i guess i guess in 5g they call it 5qi

17:15SPEAKERqci was the lte term but this was this was actually a thing that my mvno advertised when i

17:20SPEAKERsigned up with them where they were like hey hey now we offer the same qci as verizon which is who

17:25SPEAKERi was moving from like they actually made it a marketing bullet point to say like hey you'll get

17:29SPEAKERthe same priority on our network that you would on verizon it's mostly been fine for me there's

17:34SPEAKERbeen like two or three times in the last year and a half that are almost two years that i've had it

17:38SPEAKERthat throughput seemed a little spotty in a way that maybe i wanted to blame on the carrier but

17:44SPEAKERalso my monthly bill went from eighty dollars to ten dollars so i think i'm fine with that

17:49SPEAKERa lot to be said for ten bucks i um i know that like some of the mvnos like the verizon one which

17:55SPEAKERis i think visible yeah actively advertises that you're on the same priority as the as the postpaid

18:01SPEAKERcustomers the the the thing uh there's that spreadsheet that explains all the mvnos and the

18:06SPEAKERand the primary carriers has a list for this for that rating um so yeah anyway yep cell phones

18:14SPEAKERi'm glad there are more options though like it's nice like i don't miss the days when it was verizon

18:19SPEAKERat and t or t mobile and that was it well well i mean there was always u.s cellular rack in there

18:24SPEAKERbut uh but yeah the mvnos are overall good i think it's yeah i think it's just good to have options

18:30SPEAKERum levi writes in i too agree with the multiple scales approach in the coffee area after trying

18:36SPEAKERto use the same scale for coffee and food and hating the back and forth i ended up getting a

18:40SPEAKERsecond one recently i saw alton brown is using a thermo works kitchen scale yes the same people

18:47SPEAKERthat make the therma pen the scale is called the gravitas it has the whole removable display and

18:54SPEAKERhead and it is apparently higher precision i have not tried this scale myself but it seems to have

18:58SPEAKERgone toward the top of my list secondly restaurant supply stores check out your local restaurant

19:03SPEAKERsupply to see which scales they have so okay so this came up because we were talking about coffee

19:08SPEAKERprecision versus scale precision and there was a big giant conversation about but how precise is it

19:13SPEAKERprecise enough for coffee on the discord yeah the answer is this turned into a weirdly contentious

19:19SPEAKERsubject on the discord i think yeah like the reason you want tenth of a gram precision isn't

19:24SPEAKERbecause you need tenth of a gram precision it's because the next jump up which is one

19:28SPEAKERgram precision is not precise enough so like the difference between 20 20 grams of coffee and 20.8

19:34SPEAKERgrams of coffee or 20.5 grams of coffee is not ideal um the the thing i found is that and then

19:42SPEAKERthe problem with that is in order to get a scale that has that precision that like can do a four

19:47SPEAKERpound weight for um for like flour measuring for baking is not they're gonna be really expensive so

19:57SPEAKERyou buy a cheap coffee scale that's high precision for coffee and or drugs and then you buy a cheap

20:04SPEAKERuh with like five pound scale ten pound scale for the rest of your kitchen stuff like measuring

20:09SPEAKERwater and and flour and stuff like that uh this alton brown one is really fancy the thermo works

20:15SPEAKERone i love the thermo pen yeah what is the thermo pen the thermo pen was the first high speed

20:22SPEAKERelectronic uh nsf certified thermometer for cooking i ever saw okay it was like it's what

20:29SPEAKERthey used to use on america's test kitchen in the old days okay uh and it's it reads in like a

20:35SPEAKERfraction of a second it's accurate to nsf standards it's calibratable the whole thing

20:42SPEAKERthey also do a cheap one called the thermo pop now i think that is all of those things but it uses a

20:47SPEAKERdifferent kind of technology and it's way way way less expensive okay even the the thermo pen one is

20:53SPEAKER75 which is kind of a lot for a digital thermometer but it's like you know that's not like i kind of

20:58SPEAKERwas expecting hundreds of dollars honestly so that's not too bad but anyway there you go it it

21:03SPEAKERused to be hundreds of dollars for sure when i bought mine it was 150 bucks i think oh i wonder

21:08SPEAKERif maybe the thermo pen one is the is the cheaper entry level version so the thermo pen one is the

21:13SPEAKERold one the the newer one is probably faster the uh the thermo pop uses a different uses a

21:21SPEAKERthermistor instead of a um a different kind of electronic sensor basically like like basically

21:27SPEAKERit's one of those things where the increase in compute made the cheap sensor much more viable

21:33SPEAKERbecause they can smooth out the the imperfections in the reading with software and and so those

21:39SPEAKERthermal pops i like i have a couple of thermopops they're 20 bucks it's what i take camping and stuff

21:43SPEAKERlike that and they're kind of indestructible and they're just as good as the pen for a fraction of

21:49SPEAKERthe price technology um all right question from james on windows 11 i use high contrast mode and

21:57SPEAKERlarger default font sizes because i'm low vision is there a combination of linux distro and front

22:03SPEAKERend ui like kde plasma or gnome etc which allows me to recreate this out of the box in the base

22:09SPEAKERsettings if not how hard would it be to recreate for myself this was a super good question i dug

22:15SPEAKERinto like what's available in accessibility stuff on the linux side uh as to to find this out uh so

22:22SPEAKERgnome and kde are the most fully featured desktop environments for accessibility stuff built in

22:29SPEAKERsurprising to me at all i'd say those are the most like professional quote-unquote

22:34SPEAKERdesktops yeah i think they have the most like shipping quality you know sort of like yeah

22:40SPEAKERyeah it's the most parity yeah commercial adjacent yeah yeah um there are some distros built

22:46SPEAKERspecifically for blind and low vision folks though uh so accessible coconut and ubuntu mate i think

22:54SPEAKERmaybe it's mate mate okay mate i believe then there's a bunch of others that are less updated

23:02SPEAKERmost of them are designed for blind users though not necessarily low vision users i think

23:06SPEAKERaccessible coconut has low vision modes uh the problem with a lot of this stuff from what i can

23:11SPEAKERtell is that the accessibility tools are generally better in x11 than wayland although that is

23:16SPEAKERstarting to change now so um if you're not using a screen reader it opens up a lot of things and

23:22SPEAKERand honestly if you can get it installed and work with it enough to do the customization

23:28SPEAKERyou can probably customize almost anything to get to where you want it to be now uh in terms of

23:34SPEAKERcontrast and font size but i don't know i like i don't know specifics i think the unfortunately

23:40SPEAKERthe thing you're gonna have to do and this is the hard part because my guess is that the installers

23:44SPEAKERare probably not particularly well accessibilized uh is set set it up futz around with it and find

23:52SPEAKERthe one you like and then and then use that config and uh and and do the install from there

23:59SPEAKERcool the more you know yeah generally speaking the the vibe is that linux is not as good as

24:05SPEAKERmac os and windows at this kind of accessibility stuff in particular yeah that's a shame although

24:09SPEAKERi mean i could see that continuing to improve in the future the the weird thing is that for

24:14SPEAKERscreen readers people really like it for for like for like braille uh display support and screen

24:20SPEAKERreaders and stuff like that people are generally really positive because you can get access to the

24:23SPEAKERwindows at a really low level in linux but but for the the i don't want to say it's not cosmetic

24:30SPEAKERbecause it is it isn't a cosmetic change but the things like uh like contrast themes and font

24:36SPEAKERrendering it's not as good as the as the commercial os is yeah yeah well you know the wayland

24:43SPEAKERtransition is still ongoing that's nowhere near complete yet so i would hope this is the type of

24:47SPEAKERthing that will improve further as that solidifies yeah it's it's it's also i feel like in the time

24:53SPEAKEReven that i've been running linux we've gone from wayland being the norm for edge users and weirdos

24:59SPEAKERand and like enthusiasts to being like the norm the norm right like like five plus years ago it

25:05SPEAKERwas still kind of experimental or it was only the thing you used if you were willing to put

25:08SPEAKERup with a lot of stuff not working right but yeah in fact um i'd have to check it's either

25:13SPEAKERgnome or plasma or maybe both now have gotten to the point where they have either deprecated

25:17SPEAKERx11 entirely or at least have announced like oh the next version is not going to support

25:22SPEAKERx11 anymore we're getting to that point where people are moving on to wayland solely well yeah

25:28SPEAKERand and the other thing that's happened is that the tools that let you run x apps inside wayland

25:32SPEAKERare better so like the x11 satellite and all that x11 wayland satellite and all that kind of stuff

25:38SPEAKERare are fairly robust these days yeah uh speaking of linux joshua writes in and says i was wondering

25:44SPEAKERif will could give an update on the status of the new linux podcast as a die-hard linux fan i'm

25:49SPEAKERreally looking forward to the first episode so i am it's getting close i'm committed to using open

25:55SPEAKERstuff for this so like i'm setting up the website on ghost and and all that kind of stuff it's

26:01SPEAKERtaking more time than i expected ghost is having come from like wordpress and movable type and

26:07SPEAKERdrupal and all the the more traditional cms's the way ghost works is wild um you can do all

26:14SPEAKERsorts of weird routing of posts based on tags using like this routing yaml file uh so it's

26:22SPEAKERreally powerful it's it's taken me a while to figure out in retrospect i should have just

26:26SPEAKERpaid someone the thing that remap did when they paid someone to figure this out was probably the

26:30SPEAKERright choice because are they on ghost they're on ghost yeah i think i knew that yeah yeah they uh

26:36SPEAKERrob talked about it right when they launched and they built a they basically the time they

26:40SPEAKERlaunched there was stuff that goes that ghost didn't do out of the box that they wanted to

26:44SPEAKERhave when they launched remap so like like patreon does a couple of things that are really convenient

26:49SPEAKERit generates like a private rss feed for subscribers right so if you have if you want to

26:54SPEAKERrun uh give give your subscribers a no ad version not a problem for this podcast but that's a thing

27:00SPEAKERyou can do right um if you want to do discord integration that's a thing you can do where when

27:05SPEAKERpeople subscribe they get access to a discord when you when they unsubscribe then they lose

27:08SPEAKERaccess to the discord and some of that stuff was surprisingly difficult on on ghost to to work out

27:15SPEAKERuh that's the way through it yeah i i considered uh ghosts for nextlander but you would have been

27:22SPEAKERreally early it turns out that was which was like well over five years ago at this point and and

27:27SPEAKERyeah it was i mean they take a much smaller cut than patreon but yeah also you were gonna also

27:34SPEAKERgonna have to do i shouldn't say everything i started to say you're gonna have to do everything

27:38SPEAKERyourself which i don't think is the case but you're definitely gonna have to do a lot more

27:42SPEAKERyourself which was just going to be a massive like admin and maintenance burden so i talked to rob

27:48SPEAKERand i talked to a couple other folks like there's hosted ghost providers now which i don't i think

27:52SPEAKERwere relatively new at the time you were doing you started nextlander like i the feeling i'm getting

27:58SPEAKERfrom him and from doing this is that once you get it up and running it's pretty pretty especially

28:03SPEAKERon a hosted provider if you're self-hosting obviously it's a different story but on a hosted

28:07SPEAKERprovider they do the day-to-day maintenance and then you just have to make sure that everything

28:12SPEAKERstays connected yeah uh there were there were other considerations there beyond the technical

28:16SPEAKERback end stuff i guess just to pull the curtain back a little bit i mean my other thought was

28:21SPEAKERlaunching on the platform where a ton of people already have an account and it's very convenient

28:26SPEAKERfor them to just say like oh yeah i'll click another button and support another thing because

28:29SPEAKERat that point it was just going to be expecting people to make a whole new login on a whole new

28:33SPEAKERservice just for us and that i know how i feel as a consumer when i have to do that like i this this

28:40SPEAKERi hate i hate being this person but like i don't even want to play a game that's not on steam

28:43SPEAKERanymore like if i have to go make make a separate login and download a new launcher just to play a

28:48SPEAKERgame that i wish was just on steam i'm like 50 50 whether i'll even bother or not yeah for this one

28:55SPEAKERi feel like the open solution is right also yeah i think that's actually interesting as a mission

29:00SPEAKERstatement i assume that's going to be part of the pitch of the podcast is like hey this this thing

29:03SPEAKERis entirely like run and produced with open tools because that's kind of the whole idea maybe at

29:08SPEAKERleast stuff that's available on linux right like i think there's there's some closed tools that

29:12SPEAKERi'll use at some point i'm sure but like resolve right yeah but uh but audacity i've been using i've

29:19SPEAKERbeen using audacity and reaper uh i've been using i've been making the logo in gimp which is god

29:25SPEAKERhelp me it is a bad piece of software in a lot of ways i don't want to derail too much here but um

29:32SPEAKERi might have to find a new image editor soon affinity has really gone to shit

29:36SPEAKERoh i'm still using v2 i just i just haven't yeah so so am i but i just discovered last

29:42SPEAKERweek that it's abandoned like they have end of life oh yeah affinity too because they got bought

29:47SPEAKERby canva i yeah i don't want to turn this into a big rant but affinity appears to be in shitifying

29:53SPEAKERat it like a at a record pace like they got bought out by canva not that long ago and immediately made

29:59SPEAKERaffinity photo both but both free but requiring like a login basically like you have to make a

30:04SPEAKERcanva account now to use like they just immediately turned it into kind of a loss leader for getting

30:11SPEAKERpeople into the canva ecosystem where the whole point the whole appeal of affinity was that it

30:16SPEAKERwas they were good low-cost alternatives to adobe that you yeah paid for once and just had like every

30:22SPEAKERversion you had to pay for like i bought a v1 license and then when version 2 came out i you

30:27SPEAKERknow and they offer a nice discount or did offer a nice discounted upgrade fee so i was like yeah

30:32SPEAKERsure i'll pay 65 bucks for to upgrade to the version 2 of all your stuff even though i really

30:38SPEAKERonly use photo but any anyway there are like major bugs in in affinity photo too that are never going

30:43SPEAKERto be fixed at this point and i would rather just buy a v3 that i could just buy yeah they don't

30:49SPEAKERoffer that anymore anyway that's just a quick way of saying i think i'm looking for a photo editor

30:54SPEAKERagain there's um i've seen i i saw a couple of painting apps uh that are in that front it's not

31:01SPEAKERexactly the same as a photo editor but like i've seen i've seen work happening for cross-platform

31:07SPEAKERwindows mac lennox photo editor or painting apps and i'm hoping that we're going to see more stuff

31:12SPEAKERlike that coming it seems like it seems like people are launching apps on a three-way split

31:18SPEAKERthese days which is nice so yeah yeah yeah that's cool so anyway the tldr is i have to finish the

31:23SPEAKERlogo i have the ghost stuff mostly working i have uh episode zero that at this point probably feels

31:30SPEAKERdated and i need to re-record and i've recorded episode one about four times and didn't really

31:34SPEAKERlike any of them so i'm gonna do it again and see if this one doing a solo podcast is a completely

31:39SPEAKERdifferent thing because yeah yeah i've entertained that idea before like i've thought about like if

31:44SPEAKERyou were out one week like without much notice i've thought to myself like could i do a whole

31:49SPEAKERepisode just monologuing to myself and i'm not sure i could i i did the question the questions

31:54SPEAKERepisode i was able to do yeah when you were out which was a little easier yeah that's that's got

31:59SPEAKERmaterial to bounce off of um i guess you could script it like you could kind of loosely script

32:04SPEAKERit and that would make it easier a lot of podcasts are kind of loosely scripted yeah i mean we're

32:09SPEAKERloosely scripted honestly but like but like i think having more sections and stuff like that

32:13SPEAKERwould be good but i mean more of like the npr style or i don't know name your name your kind

32:18SPEAKERof like reporting focused podcast where they're like kind of quasi reading an article that they

32:22SPEAKERwrote i i've listened to a lot of that kind of podcast lately i've listened to a lot of

32:28SPEAKERone-person shows over the last three months yeah uh and and because it's not a type of like i

32:35SPEAKERi tend to prefer the kind of podcast like we make actually the kind of conversational one yeah

32:39SPEAKERyeah but but there's a lot to learn it's a lot of fun i'm excited about it because it's more

32:43SPEAKERlike you're having a conversation with the audience than than with a co-host necessarily

32:47SPEAKERwhich i think is is uh like it's an interesting space to explore so anyway i'll let you know how

32:53SPEAKERit goes i don't know that i i mean this is not a judgment but i don't know that i expected you

32:58SPEAKERto go as all in on linux as you have like i really looked at you guys doing that podcast and thought

33:04SPEAKERlike oh they'll probably enjoy messing around with linux but i was fairly sure you would both

33:08SPEAKERgo back to windows full-time at the end of it i i'm gonna tell you there was a moment early on i

33:15SPEAKERmean there's an initial wall that i kind of pushed through in terms of how difficult it was uh and

33:22SPEAKERonce i got through that and i kind of understood the basic stuff then it was so nice to not be

33:28SPEAKERmarketed at constantly yeah like it was such a such a relief and such a load off yeah that it

33:34SPEAKERit it made me enjoy using just using my computer again in a way that i hadn't in a long time that

33:41SPEAKERthat and like there's also something really nice about having like the velocity of things you can

33:47SPEAKERlearn when you're learning a new os that's especially something that's as complicated

33:50SPEAKERand powerful and kind of generally configurable as linux is so yeah i i am i mean just to be clear

33:57SPEAKERthe podcast isn't all about linux the podcast is about retaking our computers from the intuitification

34:02SPEAKERcomplex right sure yeah linux is a big part of that yeah fixing windows is a big part of that

34:08SPEAKERtoo for what it's worth sure i i've been noticing some weird regressions in windows recently that

34:12SPEAKERit's and i don't know if this is all windows some of this so i gather maybe nvidia driver related but

34:18SPEAKERit's hard not to see all the fud going around about people talking about like windows being

34:22SPEAKERvibe coded and nvidia drivers being vibe coded these days and not think that that's related it's

34:28SPEAKERit's kind of like when you play a multiple like like i remember playing pubg in like late 2017

34:33SPEAKERwhen they were having problems with cheaters and remembering how toxic it is to play a game where

34:39SPEAKERthe cheating is a is even a minor problem it's because every time you're in a competitive game

34:44SPEAKERyou die and somebody somebody shoots you're like man that was a really incredible shot you're

34:49SPEAKERprobably cheating right and that just kind of erodes your confidence in the thing that

34:53SPEAKERyou're spending your time on and and the the the vibe coding is the same thing like i know

34:59SPEAKERmicrosoft is all in on vibe coding i know microsoft loves using copilot and chat gbt or whatever

35:04SPEAKERwhatever hell they're invested in these days i just assume it's every giant company at this point

35:09SPEAKERi i'm probably fair but i i think i mean there's some people that are better at implementing than

35:15SPEAKERothers it's the it's the there was a thread on blue sky the other day about systems thinkers

35:19SPEAKERversus versus technicians and the technicians are just you know doing the thing that they're

35:24SPEAKERtold the system thinkers are coming up with the thing and i feel like there's probably some truth

35:29SPEAKERto that in terms of like like if i sit down and i'm like hey claud write me an application that

35:34SPEAKERdoes this it's just going to shit something out that works for a little while and then

35:37SPEAKERkind of gets progressively worse and is unmaintainable if somebody who's a good

35:41SPEAKERprogrammer sits down and says hey i need 15 functions that do this this this this and this

35:46SPEAKERlike that's a more more reachable goal for the for the software for the for the machine

35:52SPEAKERi think i think that's right in concept but i gather that there's a very slippery slope there

35:57SPEAKERbecause if you look at programmers on social media these days like you'll see people talking about

36:00SPEAKERlike i've seen people talk about like oh like the person who mentored me and originally i'm

36:04SPEAKERpractically like quoting a blue sky post here or something but like somebody's saying like

36:08SPEAKERlike the person who mentored me when i was new and like rejected my pull requests for like poorly

36:15SPEAKERdescriptive function names is now just like merging claud output straight into the code base

36:19SPEAKERand shipping it without even like touching it you know what i mean like even i think even like very

36:24SPEAKERtalented engineers like skilled skilled technic technical people can still become too reliant

36:31SPEAKERwithout noticing i i wonder if this is what it was like in germany when they made speed legal

36:37SPEAKERi don't know maybe it's grim yeah um the the windows stuff is just like um like for example

36:44SPEAKERthey fixed the problem years ago where i don't know if you ever had this where your monitors

36:48SPEAKERwould go to sleep and you'd come back and it would have resized and moved around all your windows

36:52SPEAKERthat's back that went away for years and it's now back i've noticed that the audio output changing

36:58SPEAKERhas has come back even though windows 11 fixed that for a long time right right like i've like

37:03SPEAKERand some of these regressions they've disclosed in like windows update notes and like i've got

37:07SPEAKERanother one where like the i don't even know how to describe this the sort of contrast of the

37:12SPEAKERdesktop changes randomly which i think that might be a and a video driver related thing that's

37:19SPEAKERobnoxious it's it's whenever i it's when i open a video or when a web page is doing something that

37:23SPEAKERseems to be hitting the hardware acceleration on the gpu like the this is on a clean install too

37:28SPEAKERright yeah it was doing it before and after which is why i think it might be driver related anyway

37:32SPEAKERlike it really is a it's hard to look at that stuff and not think there's vibe coding involved

37:38SPEAKERand b it also makes me think maybe i should put more effort into moving to linux not that linux

37:44SPEAKERdoesn't have its own problems and also isn't affected by vibe coding let's be real because

37:49SPEAKEReven the colonel even even lettuce torvalds is accepting vibe coded colonel pull requests at

37:54SPEAKERthis point yeah it's it's um i mean look there's a usability hump to get over and then then then

38:01SPEAKERthings are generally pretty good like i looked up control yesterday which is like the last three

38:07SPEAKERday like star wars zero company control and i can't remember what the other game i played was

38:13SPEAKERbut the last three like launch day games i fired up on linux just worked out of the box which was

38:18SPEAKERthe first time that's ever happened it feels like they've been a couple of times when i've been

38:22SPEAKERworking in technology where i've been using something when it hit the hockey stick part

38:26SPEAKERof the of the usability and and and install base curve like we saw that with obs in the early 20

38:32SPEAKERlike 2015 2016 after they'd been out for four or five years um uh audacity is kind of a similar

38:40SPEAKERlonger time frame but like a similar moment too and it feels like we're at the moment like it

38:45SPEAKERfeels like things are getting good and easy and fast and like also the other guys are going the

38:51SPEAKERother direction so yeah yeah yeah i've got no qualms about the usability of it like i

38:56SPEAKERi sure as shit will sit and bend a computer to my will it's more it's more the having to reboot

39:01SPEAKERoccasionally like it's just the like oh we're gonna stream a game that's got some anti-cheat

39:04SPEAKERwhere i need to be back in windows like just the the hassle of having to go back and forth between

39:08SPEAKERtwo os's is the main thing honestly for me the reboot's actually nice because it means that i

39:13SPEAKERhave the os that i do most of my work in and then i switch over when i want to play games when i

39:18SPEAKERwant to play yeah it might change honestly and in fact i've thought about this i could see you i

39:23SPEAKERcould see a situation where like maybe i spend the weekend in linux you know it's like i get to the

39:27SPEAKERend of the work week and i'm like all right well that's enough windows for one week i'm gonna like

39:31SPEAKERwhen i compute this weekend it's purely going to be in a linux environment and that actually might

39:34SPEAKERbe a nice way to go but anyway sorry to move on quickly just to wrap up the the thing you said at

39:39SPEAKERthe top about not being marketed to yeah i think that's the thing that when i think about it in my

39:44SPEAKERmind feels the best about the idea of using more linux is the the purity like the kind of like the

39:50SPEAKERpurity of knowing that you are just using your computer and the software on it exists solely to

39:56SPEAKERlet you use your computer and not to sell you things that that's it's the difference between

40:00SPEAKERa computer that exists to sell me things and a computer that exists for me to use as a tool

40:05SPEAKERyeah and and it turns out that feels good getting me like it felt so good i hooked up my zune again

40:12SPEAKERso there you go all right uh okay well real quick we need to get some just to just to some discord

40:18SPEAKERquestions while we have time but real quick i'm going to ask you why you flagged this nate from

40:22SPEAKERfort collins colorado question what's the worst prior proprietary connector so i did some thinking

40:27SPEAKERlast night on this when this email came in okay before we get to that can i can i direct you to

40:33SPEAKERour epic two-part ranking of connectors episodes we did we did rank some connectors yeah definitely

40:39SPEAKERfor sure the answers may lie therein i mean look lightning and the ipad 40 were down there i don't

40:46SPEAKERthink we did abb ipod 40 pin did yeah did i say ipad 40 pin yeah but uh i don't think we talked

40:52SPEAKERabout the adb connector which is the apple apple data bus it's the did was it on there i think we

40:59SPEAKERtalked about it do you have the list still i couldn't find it i was gonna say i could probably

41:03SPEAKERfind that spreadsheet i don't know if people want to listen to us relitigate that whole thing

41:08SPEAKERi don't think we had dumb phone connectors was the other thing i don't know if you remember but

41:12SPEAKERin the pre iphone days pre micro usb pre usb-c every phone company had its own connector and each

41:21SPEAKERphone model had a different connector for some reason i think that's the worst i think that's

41:26SPEAKERthe all-time worst proprietary connector and i don't think we put that on the connector list

41:30SPEAKERi think i agree with you i found a spreadsheet maybe device specific barrel power is bad i don't

41:37SPEAKERsee i don't see ad oh yeah no apple this says apple desktop bus is that the same thing desktop

41:42SPEAKERbus yeah yeah sorry apple desktop bus was the old was there hey we're not using ps2 uh for

41:49SPEAKERkeyboard and mouse and uh they did multiple orientations on the different max and if you

41:55SPEAKERplugged it wasn't designed to be hot swapped so if you plugged it in hot you could kill the port

41:59SPEAKERor the keyboard i can't reach but you can kill hardware we gave it a d yeah i think we over i

42:05SPEAKERthink we overdid that i think it was i think that was too kind we didn't did we not rank

42:09SPEAKERd-sub miniature at all on this thing i don't know i don't see we must have except we probably didn't

42:17SPEAKERcall it that we probably call it mini den i should not i should not get into this here we go i'm

42:24SPEAKERbecoming i'm becoming a d-sub pedant oh no d-sub is like is is what you know as db9 okay but is

42:33SPEAKERactually de9 oh or what you know as db15 but is actually da15 wow my whole world is shook uh which

42:42SPEAKERone is the actual db i can't remember hang on let me see if i can we should move on i should not get

42:50SPEAKERinto this look it's all i can do to not hit you with the db's nuts uh in here so db25 is the 25

42:59SPEAKERpin one is the db one so it turns out why are we why were we bad at this is is there like

43:06SPEAKERis there logic on this yeah so there's a really good blog post on the site called spark fun

43:11SPEAKERelectronics which i think i love spark fun oh you know them okay it's like adafruit they sell kits

43:16SPEAKERelectronic kits and parts and stuff like that for projects they're great very much very much a

43:20SPEAKERboutique like by your by your circuit boards and and and um what's the uh what's the jumper

43:26SPEAKERoh my god it's breadboards breadboards and all that uh it shares a name with like a food product

43:32SPEAKERwhat is the name of the jumper i don't have any idea what you're talking about brad dupont

43:36SPEAKERconnector dupont cable that's what i was trying to think of well that was a fast 15 minutes you

43:41SPEAKERdon't you have no idea how much time i just edited out of this podcast that i was losing my mind

43:46SPEAKERtrying to remember the name of the dupont cable what's funny is as you said that i finally got to

43:51SPEAKERthe search that was like dupont cable on my screen at the same time so we you won the race it took me

43:57SPEAKERso long to find that that i don't even remember why we were talking about it at this point there

44:00SPEAKERis just a hole missing in this podcast but anyway um we should move on but yeah spark fun has spark

44:06SPEAKERfun has a blog up about uh they're also being slightly pedantic about it's entitled it's a de9

44:12SPEAKERnot a db9 but we know what you mean and like this is the kind of like well-meaning pedantry i can get

44:17SPEAKERbehind because they really frame it in a friendly way as like a history lesson which is i think it's

44:23SPEAKERalways worth kind of increasing your knowledge of where things came from and like okay at the end of

44:28SPEAKERthe article they say at spark fun we're engineers makers and educators at heart we believe in

44:33SPEAKERtechnical accuracy and in sharing our knowledge with the community like that kind of sums up

44:37SPEAKERexactly how i feel about this yeah it's it's good vibes while we know that a vast majority of people

44:42SPEAKERsearch for db9 we felt it was essential to stick to the correct de9 designation for our products

44:47SPEAKERbut they go into some historical detail in this thing about the the second letter in the d sub

44:53SPEAKERstandard actually refers to the size of the shape of the connector or the size of the d

44:57SPEAKERthese are called d subs these are called d subs because the the shape of the metal cage around

45:02SPEAKERthe pins is a d shape you see you get what i'm saying right if you turn wow wow wow wow get it

45:09SPEAKERwhat this is like this is a straight up phoenix down moment i had no idea see that's why it's

45:14SPEAKERcool to increase your understanding and accuracy about technical specifications like this because

45:19SPEAKERyou make cool connections like that but anyway it's the it's the size of the d shape cage around

45:24SPEAKERthe pins that determines that the letter so like da15 has 15 pins and is a a connector d9 pins yes

45:33SPEAKERyeah so they have a diagram here that shows so it's da15 db25 dc37 dd50 which i guess is a which

45:41SPEAKERone of those is a parallel port the dc37 sure parallel port two rows of pins it's two rows of

45:48SPEAKERpins anyway whatever it's a lot of pins this is all fine you can just keep calling everything db

45:52SPEAKERand everybody will be fine with it i just i like knowing stuff like this and also i've been kind

45:56SPEAKERof dealing with connectors like this a little more lately and some stuff with like arcade boards and

46:01SPEAKERso on and it's just nice to know these things so i wonder like one of the things that's interesting

46:07SPEAKERto me is over the last 20 years this kind of knowledge has kind of been compressed into

46:12SPEAKERaccurate like being accurate across the board you know what i mean like we don't have this problem

46:17SPEAKERwith new connectors because the inform like i think this confusion happened because these

46:23SPEAKERconnectors were popular at a time when information wasn't as readily available and they say exactly

46:28SPEAKERthat in this blog post they're like oh this this came about i don't have the text info oh here it

46:32SPEAKERis the original ibm pc used a db25 connector for its serial and parallel ports um most people are

46:39SPEAKERalready familiar with the term db25 simply swapped the number of pins and starting calling started

46:44SPEAKERcalling the new connector a db9 when a smaller 9 10 serial port was introduced like that's how it

46:48SPEAKERhappened yeah so it's no big deal but it's yeah it's it's weird that that doesn't happen anymore

46:53SPEAKERbecause the internet has made that kind of information readily available and also the

46:57SPEAKERfact that we search for everything all the time means that you have to know what things are called

47:01SPEAKERin order to find them yeah now i'm just gonna have to make this diagram of d-sub connectors the show

47:05SPEAKERart perfect that's what the kids are that's what that's what the kids crave that's that's what this

47:09SPEAKERpodcast is for yeah this podcast is made in our image all right let's do some discord questions

47:16SPEAKERyeah discord questions that was that was way too long of a derail but here we go was it a derail or

47:20SPEAKERa b rail that's it was it's a de rail not a db rail okay that makes sense uh hendubs asks why

47:27SPEAKERaren't there more open source wearables i've been degoogling and decorpoing my life recently and one

47:32SPEAKERof the trickier moves has been finding a fitness and recovery tracker that's not tied into a big

47:37SPEAKERcompany's data grab there are a few good looking software-based products but they all are projects

47:42SPEAKERbut they all seem to be focused on hijacking and repurposing existing devices like older whoop bands

47:49SPEAKERis it just that hardware is expensive pebble seem to be the only ones really pushing ahead

47:54SPEAKERbut they don't appear to be interested in health tracking i would assume that it's because small

48:00SPEAKERintegrated like tightly compact electronics are hard and require a lot of capital and a lot of

48:06SPEAKERknow-how and engineering and manufacturing capacity to execute well also anytime you get

48:13SPEAKERinto health data then there's regulatory and liability problems that are maybe not super

48:18SPEAKERcompatible with open projects like if you claim to be tracking heart rate which is not it's not

48:25SPEAKERlike i mean i guess you can buy off the shelf hardware heart rate sensors at this point probably

48:29SPEAKERbut like you need to make those things waterproof you need to make them um shock resistant all these

48:35SPEAKERthings are challenging and expensive um and the lawyers have thoughts so yeah uh the only only

48:42SPEAKERonly one i can think of is the pine 64 people have a smart watch the pine time yeah which i can't

48:48SPEAKERvouch for at all but it looks like an apple watch and is more open i believe i don't actually know

48:53SPEAKERwhat it runs like operating system wise there's a there's a bunch of uh so i did a little looking

49:00SPEAKERthere's there's a bunch of like esp32 kind of wearable broaches almost like the things you

49:06SPEAKERput on your shirt to do either uh you know voice stuff or to track or to record a picture every

49:13SPEAKER10 seconds or what you know if you want to time lapse your day i guess you could do that uh i

49:18SPEAKERdon't i don't know like this is one of those places that i think it's like this and headphones

49:24SPEAKERi think we're gonna have a hard time getting open it'll be a while before we see open projects that

49:28SPEAKERare that are anywhere near as robust as your garden variety fitbit yeah pebble maybe is the

49:34SPEAKERhope actually those guys seem to be doing it right yeah that's an interesting situation with google

49:39SPEAKERlike releasing that into the wild and letting it become open source again and like pebble coming

49:44SPEAKERback and everything but i found my first pebble the other day i was very excited the band had

49:48SPEAKERgotten all goopy though don't want a goopy band nobody wants a goopy band uh all right warbird

49:56SPEAKERi'm a sick freak that uses prosumer gear running through obs for work video calls because as

50:02SPEAKERmentioned i'm a sick freak i need some dumb obs tricks to pull out from time to time beyond just

50:08SPEAKERslowly spinning my camera feed around to mess with people look there's a whole world of filters

50:15SPEAKERin obs that you can do crimes with you can put luts on your on your video feed you can um what

50:22SPEAKERdoes that do you want to see sure i'm on the wrong one is that like luts luts so that's what i look

50:31SPEAKERlike with no luts oh no oh my god that's horrible it's just that's what i looked like with luts yeah

50:36SPEAKERwell so washed out it's just this color space thing the color space thing yeah so i'm i'm

50:42SPEAKERthe camera is sending flat you know non non uh developed essentially video and then the

50:49SPEAKERluts supplies that video automatically uh you can do things like uh if you put nvidia broadcast

50:55SPEAKERon your on your video output on your video which are either your video feed or your scene you can

51:01SPEAKERclip yourself out and put stuff in the background sure uh you can you can also i'll say you can also

51:07SPEAKERbypass the nvidia broadcast app and just install their audio and video yeah sdk's and obs supports

51:13SPEAKERall that stuff directly now that that's that's the way to do it not installing their their

51:17SPEAKERapp and using their virtual camera is the right answer having two layers of virtual cameras seems

51:21SPEAKERa bit hinky to me yep uh the uh you could make a bottom third kyron for yourself you know give

51:28SPEAKERyourself a new title like a t you should make yes make like a tv news frame yeah yeah that would be

51:34SPEAKERpretty good yeah you could you could uh superimpose yourself into different uh different venues that's

51:41SPEAKERreally fun i'm sorry i think it's very funny i am now really kind of fixated on making like a custom

51:45SPEAKERoverlay for yourself that makes you look like a tv news anchor yeah i think that i think that's

51:50SPEAKERreally funny i also think the thing i saw i think dan reicher did on a giant bomb video once where

51:56SPEAKERhe recorded himself in the background and then green screened his background like basically he

52:02SPEAKERrecorded video of his background with him walking around in it and then used that as his backdrop

52:06SPEAKERfor the for a normal call and that's that's incredibly stupid and good nope uh yeah pretty

52:12SPEAKERgood yeah that's pretty good i think with portals yep for sure i've mentioned this before i have

52:18SPEAKERthought from time to time about replacing the physical posters behind me with two framed green

52:23SPEAKERposter boards yep so i can just make those posters whatever i want very easily from day to day i don't

52:29SPEAKEReven think you'd well you you'd have to if the camera never moved the problem is i i my camera

52:35SPEAKERis on a freestanding base and every time i so it moves a little bit i put the base back on the

52:39SPEAKERfloor so the camera angle will never be the same you could if you had a very fixed camera angle

52:44SPEAKERyou could just do a cut out of your actual posters and that would work fine you could put you could

52:48SPEAKERput tape down to on your desk where the where the base goes yeah but then there's aiming too i guess

52:54SPEAKERyeah yeah it's it's it would be hard to line up also you'd have to rotoscope out your head

52:59SPEAKERsomehow to get the so you're not so the posters are not over top of your face i don't know it's

53:04SPEAKERthat's challenging the green screen would be easier that would be tough yeah anyway there's a world of

53:09SPEAKERpossibilities yeah putting a putting a monitor in the background that has the zoom call in it

53:15SPEAKERwould be really funny like that would be easy to do the the other thing to remember is you can put

53:22SPEAKERyou can make a scene in obs and then put that scene in your other scene as a source so like

53:29SPEAKERyou can have a whole scene and then you can use the studio mode to change those things live

53:33SPEAKERthe trick with studio mode is that some things are reflected live and some things aren't until

53:37SPEAKERyou do the transition so you do some experimenting before you're in your call also don't get fired

53:42SPEAKERyeah yeah don't go too far yeah that's good advice my friend gordon for years and years and years

53:50SPEAKERhad a different starship cockpit so like he had he had the luke the x-wing cockpit and he would

53:56SPEAKERput himself in there he had the the picard captain's chair he'd put himself in there

54:01SPEAKERlike you know all good stuff gordon would make a good starship captain it was a lot of fun playing

54:07SPEAKERbridge commander with him or the the vr the v was a bridge commander the star trek vr thing oh i've

54:13SPEAKERi can't remember which was which yeah um all right final v02 like a lot of folks my age i've been

54:20SPEAKERgetting back into retro handhelds both the chinese emulators and collecting originals like the og

54:26SPEAKERgame boy my 13 year old has outgrown his original nintendo switch and mostly tossed it aside

54:32SPEAKERi'd like to preserve it for him to get nostalgic over when he's middle-aged what's the move here

54:37SPEAKERtake out the batteries system and joy cons or should i just charge it up to 80 once a year

54:42SPEAKERthen put it back in storage will the system memory with his saves and everything lasts

54:47SPEAKERanything else i'm forgetting i i i can i can only speak from personal experience here that i had two

54:53SPEAKERsets of joy cons for the switch one and i had to pull all four of those batteries out years ago

54:58SPEAKERbecause they all swelled very visibly like kind of really fast yeah oh wow yeah and those were the

55:04SPEAKERstock factory batteries and and i'm trying to think if i did anything weird in terms of charging

55:11SPEAKERbehavior that would have accelerated that process but i don't think so did you use an external

55:14SPEAKERcharger for them or they were they mostly plugged into the switch yeah they were just on the switch

55:18SPEAKERin the dock the whole time wow like i i you know i use i didn't use the switch every day i don't

55:22SPEAKERknow if just sitting there charging all the time may have contributed but like all four of those

55:26SPEAKERjoy cons started getting fat at some point and i very rapidly took those batteries out and disposed

55:32SPEAKERof them i don't know about the system battery though so i i was gonna say i did some looking

55:36SPEAKERat this i looked to see if there was a long-term storage mode for the switch that's accessible to

55:40SPEAKERusers and i couldn't find one yeah so like does not does not seem like a like a nintendo like

55:44SPEAKERthing to do yes like steamed the steam deck most laptops you can put your laptop into like my my

55:51SPEAKERmy uh my laptop you can put the battery into like long-term storage mode and it will uh it will

55:57SPEAKERbasically it it requires you plugging it into a power source in order to turn it back on at that

56:02SPEAKERpoint like that's how that's how you signal to it that you're ready to get more power interesting

56:06SPEAKERthe uh same thing for the steam deck right the steam deck you can go into the firmware and put

56:11SPEAKERit into long-term storage mode and it'll it'll then the power button stops working the way you

56:15SPEAKERturn it back on is by plugging it in i think pulling the batteries is probably the right

56:20SPEAKERanswer here yeah if you if you're thinking about 40 years of storage and in fact this

56:25SPEAKERreminds me i've got psp's and nintendo ds's and stuff in boxes in the closet that i should

56:30SPEAKERprobably check on more often yeah i pulled the battery for my psp and he wasted it years ago

56:35SPEAKERbecause it was it was big yeah uh the vita is probably the next candidate for that if i had

56:39SPEAKERto guess i've got a i've got a new in box psp but i don't want to open because it's like one of the

56:46SPEAKERlimited edition ones that i've just been hanging on to because it might be

56:49SPEAKERworth something but now it makes me wonder what's going on with the battery inside that sealed psp

56:54SPEAKERleave it in the box and put it on ebay call it a day yeah maybe so it's a daxter psp

56:59SPEAKERoh that's what the kids are craving just the daxter set but a bug got in there like

57:04SPEAKERit's got a it's got a like a clear not cellophane but you know like clear plastic front so you can

57:09SPEAKERsee inside of it a bug got in the box at some point and got smushed between the plastic and the

57:15SPEAKERyeah so it's i don't know if that might affect the grade if i ever get that thing graded it

57:20SPEAKERmight affect the grade of it a bit that's wild i wonder if it came from the factory or if it came

57:25SPEAKERfrom you know i saw the bug i saw the bug in there oh okay crawling around yeah i uh yeah i i i think

57:33SPEAKERthe putting it on the dock and just letting it charge is also viable for everything i can tell

57:37SPEAKERsays that nintendo maintains the battery charge in a way that's not going to torch the batteries

57:42SPEAKERuh i would anything that you're going to leave for that 20 or 30 years i would definitely think

57:46SPEAKERabout how you store it though and make sure you pay attention to the batteries also on the save

57:51SPEAKERgames like modern flash storage does not last forever without power like it will eventually

57:56SPEAKERlose data if you don't supply it with more power at some point but it's hard to find like stats on

58:01SPEAKERwhat that time frame actually is the last time i looked around the conventional wisdom seemed

58:06SPEAKERlike it was on the order of like a decade before you needed to worry about it the um that's that's

58:11SPEAKERmy understanding as well the other thing is the thing we're dancing around we haven't actually

58:16SPEAKERsaid is you don't want the batteries to completely discharge like that's that that kills lithium ion

58:21SPEAKERbatteries and typically the device will put itself into safe mode at some point before it gets to the

58:27SPEAKERpoint that it's going to damage the batteries but then if you're talking about storing it for 10

58:30SPEAKERyears beyond that then then the battery will lose a little bit of charge each year even if it's in

58:35SPEAKERthat safe mode and you want to prevent that from happening if you want to be able to use it in the

58:40SPEAKERfuture although realistically in the future when he plays this he's going to plug it into some

58:43SPEAKERsort of wall cube tv or something and you know it'll be fine so yeah yeah uh tactical tug i've

58:50SPEAKERordered a raspberry pi 2 0 and a four inch screen for a project however due to what i can only assume

58:55SPEAKERis a mix-up at the company i bought them from i've received two of each i've checked the receipt

59:00SPEAKERi only paid for one of each and talking to them they told me to just keep them instead of going

59:03SPEAKERthrough a whole international return shipping circus i also don't feel like selling them and

59:08SPEAKERprofiting off of something i technically got for free so now i've got the luxury problem of being

59:13SPEAKERin possession of a spare pi zero and a touch screen any tips as to what this might be useful for

59:19SPEAKERso look the bank made an error in your favor this is a monopoly community chess card you you've

59:27SPEAKERyou've received a boon congratulations enjoy it i went and looked for pi zero projects last night

59:33SPEAKERthat i like easy pi zero touch screen projects the best one that i found was a compass that

59:40SPEAKERalways points to the nearest taco bell okay so you put it you so you'll need to get an imu

59:46SPEAKERa gps and a compass speaking of dan reicher yeah well look i i also have a fondness for the taco

59:52SPEAKERbell so yeah but you live near the best one so why would you ever go anywhere else i'm i'm ruined at

59:58SPEAKERthis but like i actually it's funny since we since we moved here i don't think i've been to another

1:00:02SPEAKERtaco bell probably maybe on maybe i took when we were on a road trip the kiddo wanted to stop

1:00:06SPEAKERat a taco bone around on the way someplace one time but anyway the point is that's the level of

1:00:11SPEAKERstupid i think you should be looking for like what's your what's the thing you always want to

1:00:15SPEAKERknow where it is like like one of the one of the okay i'm going to talk about harry potter and i

1:00:21SPEAKERapologize there's a there's a thing in one of the books early on that i absolutely love and i've

1:00:26SPEAKERalways wanted to make which is the where's everybody in the family clock that just points

1:00:31SPEAKERtoward like work school mortal danger all that kind of stuff it's a really clever idea with

1:00:36SPEAKERmodern phones and like a home assistant i had a prototype built years ago and i just never bothered

1:00:41SPEAKERto make it into a real thing but like that kind of that kind of ambient information display for

1:00:46SPEAKERpeople in your family i really like i think it's really fun um i i don't know like i i would think

1:00:54SPEAKERabout stuff like that like that kind of low power computer what's ambient information you want is it

1:00:59SPEAKERis it something really practical like air quality if you live someplace that there's fires is it

1:01:03SPEAKERwhether the day's weather is it the next thing on your calendar like like it would be cool to just

1:01:09SPEAKERhave a little screen on the wall that tells me the next thing on my calendar every day

1:01:12SPEAKERi i don't know i don't know what it is but i think that kind of ambient information is really cool

1:01:16SPEAKERyes i agree or you could do the talk about thing i don't i don't have any good ideas for this so

1:01:20SPEAKERi'm glad you have you showed up with some good ones um all right stig asks a question uh i'm i'm

1:01:27SPEAKERgoing to answer this based on having watched one youtube video several months ago that was

1:01:30SPEAKER10 minutes long about this so i'm i will preface this by saying anything i get wrong or understand

1:01:35SPEAKERpoorly that's why but i'm half taking this because i think it could be a good conversation starter

1:01:40SPEAKERon the discord potentially yeah i think this is a potential topic for the for the show too because

1:01:44SPEAKERyeah well yes but i man even even with fair amount of research i would still be pretty nervous talking

1:01:50SPEAKERabout this and getting i know somebody i know a guest okay i got a guest for this that would

1:01:55SPEAKERyeah i could think of some guests all right stig asks i'd like to understand more about arm and how

1:01:58SPEAKERit is so efficient compared to x86 while simultaneously so rapidly closing the performance

1:02:04SPEAKERgap that seemed so large even five years ago i'll tell you i'll tell you the one example that i can

1:02:09SPEAKERthink of or that i have from that video which is not arm specific but it goes to the difference

1:02:14SPEAKERbetween risk and sisk processors reduced instruction set versus complex instruction set

1:02:21SPEAKERlook it's the it's the great usenet and irc fights of the 90s are coming back to life right now

1:02:26SPEAKERyeah so the the quick example i can give is that with with risk all the instructions are the same

1:02:31SPEAKERlength and so when in fact instructions are being fed into the cpu are being decoded because again

1:02:36SPEAKERthis is all stuff i picked up from that video so i would love for people to help enhance my

1:02:40SPEAKERunderstanding of this of this subject but as the instructions are being decoded by this processor

1:02:46SPEAKERwhen they're all the same size you can chunk them up and feed them in much more efficiently

1:02:51SPEAKERthan with sisk instruction sets like x86 where the instructions are variable length and you

1:02:57SPEAKERcan't make assumptions about where instructions begin and end or how long they are or whatever so

1:03:02SPEAKERi gather that the decoding phase on x86 is more complex and therefore it's probably taking more

1:03:08SPEAKERelectricity to run i will say i i have i have come to understand like i think this was like started

1:03:13SPEAKERon the pinion pro like this was literally like a 30 years ago thing that internally they started

1:03:19SPEAKERbasically kind of breaking up x86 into a risk-like structure as it's being processed on on the cpu so

1:03:26SPEAKERlike i think some of those some of those advantages have eroded as they've adapted x86 but i think

1:03:31SPEAKERthey're still probably dealing with some legacy design stuff because like every modern architecture

1:03:35SPEAKERis risk now right i think that just that just won didn't it that i don't i'm not that level of

1:03:40SPEAKERarchitecture guy so i don't i don't know that like risk risk five obviously is risk like yeah arm of

1:03:46SPEAKERcourse is risk like power pc was risk that came about in the 90s like a spark like a sun's spark

1:03:51SPEAKERarchitecture was risk i think like everything is beyond instruction sets that came about in the

1:03:56SPEAKER70s which we're still living with well um so there is that i was going to say the other thing that's

1:04:02SPEAKERhappened is that the machines have gotten better at predicting how the how the code is going to go

1:04:08SPEAKERthrough the through the through the machine uh and and as a result there's less wasted cycles so

1:04:16SPEAKERthe the thing that's happened in the last few years is that intel from the basically when

1:04:21SPEAKERapple started making their own chips for their max and when intel thought that was going to be

1:04:26SPEAKERpossible they started working on power consumption on the upcoming generations of chip a lot and a

1:04:32SPEAKERlot of that stuff is decidedly unsexy work like being better at branch predictions and having less

1:04:37SPEAKERwasted cycles and you know that kind of stuff to the point that with like the lunar lake generation

1:04:43SPEAKERyou saw comparable power life from the x8 from their architecture and com and at the same time

1:04:49SPEAKERarm was becoming more performant and you're seeing you know basically six of one half dozen of the

1:04:55SPEAKERother across across those two product lines we we should get a guest on and talk about this because

1:05:01SPEAKERi think there's a lot to get into here i would love to pick somebody's brain about this who is

1:05:05SPEAKERvery learned in the field um the other thing that i have come to kind of absorb through osmosis and

1:05:11SPEAKERpeople can correct me on this is that some of like arm's inherent efficiency advantages have

1:05:16SPEAKERbeen maybe a bit overblown in the public consciousness because if as you've seen with

1:05:20SPEAKERlike lunar lake and panther lake recently like x86 is also capable of being very power efficient

1:05:25SPEAKERand fast a lot of that stuff was just earlier arm chips focusing more on process node optimizations

1:05:32SPEAKERwhere intel was way behind on that stuff and as as they have focused much more on more efficient

1:05:39SPEAKERfabrication nodes like x86 is catching up there as well but the the other thing that arm has

1:05:44SPEAKERtraditionally done that the pc does outside of the outside of the cpu is arm arm vendors will

1:05:53SPEAKERjust dump co-processors like crazy in to make hardware solutions to software problems right

1:06:00SPEAKERso if there's some piece of if there's some bit of math that runs in software on the cpu

1:06:05SPEAKERon an arm soc the next generation will have a hardware a small hardware co-processor inside

1:06:11SPEAKERthe soc or on the die someplace that does that math and and that accelerates like software modems

1:06:16SPEAKERare a good example right so rather than having a hardware modem you did the software modem and it's

1:06:20SPEAKERlike you get all the benefits of running everything in software and lower power consumption in the

1:06:24SPEAKERwhole thing anyway we don't need to get into it but yeah uh you want to do one more yeah we we're

1:06:29SPEAKERgonna have to do more discord questions on the patron episode this month because we did not get

1:06:33SPEAKERto very many of them okay last question from fernando brad mentioned on nextlander that the

1:06:38SPEAKER10 government stake taken in intel was basically a protection racket i have completely cut off all

1:06:45SPEAKERpolitical news from my life could you to please elaborate in your usual objective well-researched

1:06:50SPEAKERway on how that deal came about and the details of it i don't know that there has been a thoroughly

1:06:55SPEAKERreported like narrative uh narrative report about never you know you know of the of the type that

1:07:01SPEAKERyou know i'm talking about like a deeply reported like new york times or washington post's article

1:07:06SPEAKERthere's too much other chaos to cover but i i i both have listened to political podcasts talking

1:07:12SPEAKERabout this recently and then went and followed up on even just the very obvious publicly available

1:07:17SPEAKERinformation and the very quick gist which again you can go and look at social media posts and put

1:07:21SPEAKERtogether yourself is that the new uh the new ceo of intel lit butan is chinese and it seems like

1:07:29SPEAKERit was just standard issue sinophobia that people like senator tom cotton immediately started

1:07:34SPEAKERgrousing about his supposed connections to the chinese communist party and basically saying he

1:07:39SPEAKERwas unfit to be leading an american company and then trump laid in with he must resign immediately

1:07:45SPEAKERhe is a conflict of interest and then tan met with trump and then suddenly trump was very laudatory

1:07:52SPEAKERabout his potential as the intel ceo at exactly the same time that the u.s government also

1:07:57SPEAKERtook 10 of intel well the other part of it the other part of it is that you know intel was on

1:08:05SPEAKERwas on the the role for getting a huge amount of chips act money that was passed during the

1:08:10SPEAKERbiden administration to open things like the 18a fab in in arizona and and to do infrastructure

1:08:18SPEAKERin the u.s right to build a four nanometer infrastructure in the u.s and uh the when that

1:08:25SPEAKERwhen the payouts were due during the early days of the second trump term he just said we're not

1:08:30SPEAKERgoing to pay it yeah and the the way that they got the money released was by giving 10 of the

1:08:36SPEAKERcompany to the united states in a way that i as i understand it it was unclear how that transfer

1:08:42SPEAKERwas how that ownership was going to happen because it's not like the u.s can own stock in companies

1:08:46SPEAKERso now i can up until that point that was an unprecedented development any anyway basically

1:08:53SPEAKERuh it was actually i i was reminded in reading about this that something similar happened with

1:08:57SPEAKERnvidia where if you remember nvidia was not cleared to sell gpu's in china and then once

1:09:03SPEAKERthey made an agreement to give the government a 15 cut of all sales of gpu's to china that suddenly

1:09:08SPEAKERwas was weird permitted to occur yeah uh this seems like a similar situation but the intel thing

1:09:16SPEAKERthe intel thing they were really up against over the barrel because they'd spent a ton of money on

1:09:19SPEAKERthe fabs especially the 18a fab in in arizona and then suddenly needed to get the rest of the money

1:09:28SPEAKERthat the u.s government owned the owed them as appropriated by the congress of the united states

1:09:32SPEAKERthe budgetary authority in the united states yeah weird and uh and the the executive branch wasn't

1:09:38SPEAKERreleasing so yes anyway anyway basically seems like a basic case of it would be shame if something

1:09:44SPEAKERhappened to your company yeah strong strong man uh strong man diplomacy it's bad anyway that's as

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1:11:33SPEAKERyeah same to you uh i'm gonna say behind the scenes for people who have listened all the way

1:11:38SPEAKERthrough we had to switch from our normal video conferencing to discord midway through and you

1:11:42SPEAKERhave been this entire time doing all sorts of weird like max headroom style like jittering back

1:11:47SPEAKERand forth like where the video is speeding up and catching up and slowing down and catching up it's

1:11:52SPEAKERreally been incredible and i wish i'd captured some of it i wonder if something's going on with

1:11:56SPEAKERthe internet pipes between here and there i don't know man two different video calls have kind of

1:12:01SPEAKERcrapped out this morning yeah probably some gigantic ddos happening across the entire

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