00:00SPEAKERwell an old friend is joining us for the podcast this week wait there's nobody in the call this is
00:04SPEAKERa stealth friend oh okay surprise friend hello friend this friend is under my desk oh wow
00:12SPEAKERi didn't realize it was that kind of show i'm gonna see if i get a friend under my desk too
00:15SPEAKERthat sounds great move on from the implications of that statement the dbx 286 s is back oh great
00:23SPEAKERfantastic i haven't heard you go crackle yet so i assume yeah long long time listeners of the show
00:29SPEAKERmay remember my my fuzzing out problem it well they never heard it though i think i think i put
00:34SPEAKERit in the show once or twice like when we were talking about it okay we talked about it enough
00:38SPEAKERthat i was like i should put an example or two of this in there so people can hear what's going on
00:42SPEAKERyeah you sent it away though and i finally yeah the two-year warranty was looming and finally i
00:50SPEAKERwas like i should rma this i should at least try to get this fixed before i just give up on it and
00:54SPEAKERthrow it in the river yeah you you had what i can only really call like a toxic codependent
01:00SPEAKERrelationship with that thing because it's such a bummer man because it does exactly what i needed
01:04SPEAKERto do it just wasn't doing what i needed it to do well it was doing that it was also doing one
01:08SPEAKERother thing which was randomly giving you staticky right with no way to predict or no way to
01:13SPEAKERanticipate yeah it's a we've talked about it before but it's an analog channel strip or pre-processor
01:18SPEAKERor whatever you want to call it it takes the raw audio from my microphone and applies all kinds of
01:23SPEAKERyou know ds and compressor and and high pass filter and noise gate and you know all that
01:30SPEAKERi get nice clean sounding audio out of it yeah into the computer the reason you use something
01:34SPEAKERlike that like i my mixer does that in software but the reason you use something like that is so
01:39SPEAKERthat you get clean sounding good audio that's compressed and like audio compressed not mp3
01:44SPEAKERcompressed yes and and that comes out of your signal so you're you're you're basically ready
01:50SPEAKERto edit with what you send now yeah and most of that you can do in software in post-production
01:54SPEAKERwhich is what i was doing for the whole time that i have not had this thing um but it's nice to have
01:59SPEAKERa piece of hardware because then you get the benefits of it everywhere and not just in
02:03SPEAKERsituations where you're using software to do that yeah like on live streams right yes like it's
02:08SPEAKERharder to do that in like a zoom call or on discord and like i have gotten i'm going to tell
02:13SPEAKERyou the all the hassle with this thing has been justified every time i've been on some random like
02:17SPEAKERbusiness zoom call or in a discord with my college friends yeah and having somebody go like man you
02:22SPEAKERsound like god yeah people notice it's it's actually fun to have that anyway um i've got
02:28SPEAKERthe work order here in front of me and i was kind of impressed with it oh we talked about this like
02:32SPEAKERa month ago when i had submitted the rma and they had tried to charge me like half the price of the
02:37SPEAKERunit to look at it and fix it yeah and you explained to them what a warranty was at that
02:41SPEAKERpoint i believe they were cool about it once i pointed it out they just like immediately issued
02:45SPEAKERme another rma for without a fee on it tried to sneak one by you though that that feels not cool
02:51SPEAKERi feel i feel kind of validated because okay first of all i'm actually impressed with the technicians
02:56SPEAKERnotes on this work order there's like kind of a surprising amount of detail and i feel pretty
03:00SPEAKERvalidated because it is exactly what i thought it was going to be based on all the youtube videos
03:06SPEAKERi saw about this thing crap solders yeah well they don't say that but so okay technicians notes
03:11SPEAKERsymptom the audio output often fuzzy and garbled findings i sees u7 u11 u15 defective so that's
03:20SPEAKERexactly what all those youtube videos that we're fixing this thing we're finding is like hey some
03:24SPEAKERof the chips are just not soldered well to this thing and if you just reflow those chips it turns
03:30SPEAKERout to be fine well well there you go but then actions due to the lack of replacement i see is
03:35SPEAKERthe main pcb was replaced a three-hour burn-in was performed to verify repair tested unit to
03:42SPEAKERfactory specification so okay this leads me to some questions this is this is so i've i've already
03:50SPEAKERmade a lot of stuff over the years and sometimes you just get a brand new part back with no fix
03:54SPEAKERno notes yes the worst one i've ever heard of was a friend of mine had to send his video card back
04:00SPEAKERwhich i think was at 4080 and when he got it back they didn't tell him like it was crashing
04:06SPEAKERwhen it was when he was using it and they were like yeah we're pretty sure you need to discipline
04:10SPEAKERthey just sent the card back without a note that was like it just said repaired yes that's
04:14SPEAKERthat is the nightmare scenario or i think maybe even the worst the worst nightmare scenario is
04:19SPEAKERlike could not reproduce didn't fix like if they basically say like hey we couldn't reproduce your
04:23SPEAKERproblem we just send it back like that's the actual worst yeah that is the worst but the
04:27SPEAKERsecond worst is what you just described of they say they fixed it but they didn't say what was
04:31SPEAKERwrong with it or why and then it comes back and has more problems yeah um i was pretty surprised
04:37SPEAKERthat they actually said what they found wrong with it but okay again this leads to some questions
04:41SPEAKERyeah presumably they've got some kind of diagnostic system that easily will tell them which chips on
04:46SPEAKERthe board are not working right yeah i doubt there was a technician in there like continuity testing
04:50SPEAKERevery chip on that board manually to determine that and further they mentioned that they have
04:55SPEAKERa burn-in test that will validate factory specification so here's my question yeah how
05:01SPEAKERmuch do you want to bet they are not running any of these validation tests on new units coming out
05:06SPEAKERof the factory and are only saving these tests for units that somebody complains about i bet that
05:12SPEAKERthere's a spreadsheet someplace this is the tyler durden problem right is it's cheaper for them to
05:16SPEAKERjust replace the ones that are bad than to find them when they're bad coming out of the factory
05:20SPEAKERit's like look it's possible they run the burn-in your problem a it didn't take it took a long time
05:26SPEAKERto show if i recall yes that's the worst thing about this problem is it was so sporadic that
05:31SPEAKERlike like i would go like two weeks without it manifesting and then one day it would happen
05:35SPEAKERover and over and over and then it would be another month until it happened again but but
05:38SPEAKEReven beyond that it took a month or two before you saw it happen the first time if i remember
05:43SPEAKERyeah so i was out of the return window yeah i think 30 days before i ever noticed it well so
05:48SPEAKERit also it was also one of those things where it was like is is the uh surge protector is plugged
05:53SPEAKERinto bad is it just getting bad power yeah is there like a ground loop somewhere you know like
05:58SPEAKERit was when when electricity and analog audio are involved it could be any number of gremlins so i
06:03SPEAKERwasn't sure it was the unit until i was well but but i guess my point is i don't know that a burn-in
06:08SPEAKERwould have caught it given the amount of time you used that before you had any problems don't say
06:12SPEAKERthat don't say that because when they said they just swap a new mainboard into it i kind of worried
06:18SPEAKERa little bit because i was like what if that new mainboard's got the same problem yeah i don't feel
06:22SPEAKERgreat about that that's yeah so so yes that is to say i'm in a holding pattern on this thing
06:27SPEAKERi'm still a bit on pins and needles well if this one goes bad i'll bring the soldering iron over
06:32SPEAKERand we'll just we'll just solder now that we know which three chips are the are the are the
06:36SPEAKERproblems we can just fix it that is the future of consumer electronics learning how to fix the
06:41SPEAKERproducts you bought yourself
07:11SPEAKERwelcome to brad and will made a tech pod i'm will i am brad i you know i kind of don't think our
07:17SPEAKERcyberpunk future okay there's bits and pieces of the cyberpunk future that are undoubtedly bad
07:22SPEAKERbut learning how to fix your stuff doesn't feel bad to me no it's in principle it's like especially
07:27SPEAKERif you're as into electronics as we are and people like us are it's actually a really good thing to
07:32SPEAKERknow how to solder effectively but you shouldn't have to when you buy a product from a company oh
07:37SPEAKERagreed but like like the the place that feels bad is when you're like desoldering ram because you
07:42SPEAKERcan't buy ram because it's being gobbled up by wailing utani did you see i saw um i saw a headline
07:48SPEAKERthe other day that's uh the raspberry pi people have now locked out in firmware changing the ram
07:54SPEAKERon a raspberry pi did you see this i did not see this the reason is that shady sellers are buying
08:00SPEAKERlow ram pies and desoldering the small amount of ram on them and getting like shitty substandard
08:05SPEAKERhigher capacity ram like you know factory rejects whatever they're sourcing bad but higher capacity
08:11SPEAKERram soldering it onto those things and then selling them at higher price oh boy yeah so
08:17SPEAKERthat's where we're at i guess things are great yeah um it's uh it's the end of the month brad
08:22SPEAKERhappy happy uh and happy autumn in the northern hemisphere i guess yeah i guess we just crossed
08:27SPEAKERthe the equinox or the solstice equinox is the is the solstice is the long and short days and
08:33SPEAKERequinox is the days that are equal okay oh i remember that's a great that is a great mnemonic
08:40SPEAKERare there two of two of each a year yeah there's spring and autumn and uh fall and winter and
08:46SPEAKERsummer okay all right so what's the winter and summer sorry i've learned something valuable
08:51SPEAKERthere you go yeah hey it's good that happens on a podcast occasionally hopefully everybody else
08:55SPEAKERlistening can learn something today uh to celebrate the equinox we're going to do the same thing we do
08:59SPEAKERat the end of every month and that is we're going we have we dug deep into our well of questions and
09:04SPEAKERcues both from email and discord and we are going to turn we had a bunch of them so we're going to
09:11SPEAKERturn some select number of them into a's i don't know how many we'll get to what we get to yeah
09:16SPEAKERuh but the email address is techpod at content.town if you're in the discord you can go to the
09:21SPEAKERquestions seeking answers channel and if you're not in the discord you can get in the discord
09:25SPEAKERby going to patreon.com slash techpod where for five bucks a month you get access to the full
09:30SPEAKERarchive of patron exclusive episodes you get access to the patron exclusive discord and you can talk
09:37SPEAKERabout things like this without having to wait for us to to answer your question so i was talking to
09:41SPEAKERpeople at 6 30 this morning about uh this web cert you know certificate uh renewal yeah that's that
09:48SPEAKERthose are the fun things you can do on our discord you got that you got that uh what's the free
09:53SPEAKERservice that gives you the certificates uh let's encrypt let's encrypt yes yes that's what i use
09:58SPEAKERi love that let's encrypt yeah yeah uh with the but i don't think we have any let's encrypt
10:03SPEAKERquestions this month so probably not no uh we'll see what we do have here before we go into
10:09SPEAKERquestions while you're looking for the first one i have an update because i think we had more
10:13SPEAKERresponse to this than anything we've ever talked about on the show that's a bold claim uh the
10:19SPEAKERcalendar syncing question that i asked last month yes we talked about a little bit on the patreon
10:24SPEAKERpatreon episode last month but i got a bazillion responses to that and people recommended a
10:30SPEAKERbazillion good looking tools and then somebody was like yo you use fantastical right it already
10:35SPEAKERdoes this so i'm using fantastical oh okay yeah all right yeah uh tip there is one challenge that
10:42SPEAKERi'm finding with that which is that it doesn't uh i also realize that fantastical does like the
10:48SPEAKERcalendly thing where you can say hey look at your calendar and then let people book meetings with
10:53SPEAKERyou online which is really convenient when you have people that like want to talk to you about
10:57SPEAKERpodcast advertising and stuff like that uh so i'm using that but it doesn't it doesn't because i'm
11:03SPEAKERnot using google for my calendar it doesn't let me use google meet for the for the meetings which
11:07SPEAKERis a little bit obnoxious but other than that everything's cool uh so yeah shout outs to
11:12SPEAKERfantastical for doing two-way sync from one calendar to the other and back again how many
11:16SPEAKERplatforms is that on that's not everything it's only on ios and there's a windows client now
11:22SPEAKERokay uh but on linux i basically uh i but basically i'm using the sync once you set up
11:28SPEAKERthe sync then you don't need to you know you can access those calendars from whatever tool you use
11:33SPEAKERyeah i started to ask is there a mac os version but are we at the point well i know you don't use
11:37SPEAKERmac os daily but are we at the point where if there's an ios app you can just automatically
11:42SPEAKERsay there's a mac os app like there i know there is some back and forth of of mobile apps running
11:46SPEAKERon mac os now but i don't think it's it's not an automatic thing right so yeah i think you can run
11:52SPEAKERios apps on anything now unless they specifically flag it as not compatible but this is a mac os
11:57SPEAKERversion of fantastical for like 15 years yeah yeah okay that makes sense all right let's get into some
12:03SPEAKERuser user listener listener listener listener is a good word we don't have videos we don't have
12:09SPEAKERwords just yeah i mean we don't written words i like saying user though look like i've watched
12:14SPEAKERtoo much tron maybe i well and also i i often think about like idle thumbs which is one of the
12:20SPEAKERall-time great gaming podcasts oh yeah and they called they called the people who wrote into them
12:26SPEAKERreaders i think aha okay just because of legacy print work so yes i idle thumbs boasts the all-time
12:32SPEAKERbest podcast episode title that will never be surpassed the silken goku that's pretty good and
12:39SPEAKERin reference to those mall kind of hot topic yeah up anime shirts that you would see yeah that was
12:46SPEAKERthey were roasted nick on that one if i remember right it's good time idle thumbs is good stuff
12:50SPEAKERyes anyway all right uh joe near seattle writes in routine use cases on my phone which is an iphone
12:58SPEAKER17 pro max will pretty much always start cutting out or slowing down or failing once dropping to
13:04SPEAKERtwo bars of signal out of four or even in some cases three bars and the data icon showing 5g
13:10SPEAKERwith or without a plus or some other added symbol seems meaningless if the cell bars are in this
13:15SPEAKERstate i've always thought going down to 25 or lower relative signal strength is the danger zone
13:21SPEAKERto expect but not expecting half of the signal to essentially mean everything stops if you're in a
13:27SPEAKERvery densely populated spot like a huge crowd or whatever this would be totally understandable but
13:31SPEAKERthis is nothing like that is this perhaps because i'm on an mvno i thought the caveat with those had
13:38SPEAKERmore to do with hitting your high speed data cap which i essentially never do there i ask if there
13:43SPEAKERis even a standard for how these icons must appear relative to the actual available signal and
13:48SPEAKERexpected performance are they allowed to just be liars or have no practical accuracy i would look
13:56SPEAKERat there isn't there is another rating you should look at that you probably need to call or dig into
14:01SPEAKERyour mvnos like plans to to determine which is qci because i had to look into this one i didn't have
14:09SPEAKERto look at the end of this but i'm me so i did when i moved to an mvno qci is the quality of
14:16SPEAKERservice class identifier for your cell plan which is basically like really what it is is they
14:22SPEAKERprioritize traffic they shape and prioritize your traffic based on like how much you're paying them
14:26SPEAKERand like how important they think you are so so it's like it is an arbitrary priority rating that
14:33SPEAKERyou again may have to like dig into some things to find out but like you might be you might be at a
14:38SPEAKERlower tier of priority so you might just be like it could very well be a situation where you have
14:43SPEAKERgood signal but you are getting bumped down in like traffic access because there are quote
14:48SPEAKERunquote more important customers using the network some of the mvnos do that the signal strength
14:53SPEAKERthing is different than that though i think uh because the signal strength they there's no
14:58SPEAKERstandard for displaying signal strength like two bars is not 50 of signal strength it's i believe
15:04SPEAKERthat as well for sure yeah so you can actually if you search for iphone field test mode signal
15:11SPEAKERstrength then you can find a guide the tldr is you have to open up a hidden menu by dialing some
15:16SPEAKERstuff on the keypad so it's built into the phone it's built into the phone it's different depending
15:22SPEAKERwhich version of ios you have which is why i'm not just giving a straight guide but generally
15:26SPEAKERspeaking you open up the phone and you dial something like star 3001 pound one two three
15:31SPEAKERfour five pound star and then and then call that number and it opens up the field test menu and
15:38SPEAKERthen you can see your phone's signal strength in decibels i gotta try this um yeah so the problem
15:44SPEAKERis that the scale is probably logarithmic would be my guess judging like i have a i have a couple
15:48SPEAKERplaces where one bar is absolute no signal near me and i have a couple places where one bar is fine
15:54SPEAKERand it's it's there's you used people to actually get the the decibel number in the menu on ios and
16:00SPEAKERthey killed that around ios 11 time frame this sounds fun yeah it's uh it's so the other thing
16:07SPEAKERis support to note is when you need to exit then you um swipe up from the bottom and just close the
16:12SPEAKERapp that's that's the only way you can close it i i love i love hidden diagnostics and low level
16:17SPEAKERstuff that are in embedded or like closed systems whether it's like game consoles or phones or
16:23SPEAKERwhatever things that don't normally expose stuff like that like being able to get to some like
16:27SPEAKERsecret dark dank menu that shows actual diagnostics two things to note the the
16:34SPEAKERthe number you're seeing is decibel milliwatts uh it's decibels are generally logarithmic like
16:40SPEAKERthree decibels is twice as strong as the other and because it's a negative signal the closer you are
16:45SPEAKERto zero the stronger the signal so negative 50 is stronger than negative 60 by a significant
16:50SPEAKERpercentage it's not it's not you know one six tenths or whatever yeah or five six it's uh uh
16:59SPEAKERtwice as four times as powerful or four times as strong so although although what he's describing
17:04SPEAKERlike three three bars i would expect to be resilient enough to at least like get data
17:10SPEAKERthroughput i i would also look up that qci or i guess i guess i guess in 5g they call it 5qi
17:15SPEAKERqci was the lte term but this was this was actually a thing that my mvno advertised when i
17:20SPEAKERsigned up with them where they were like hey hey now we offer the same qci as verizon which is who
17:25SPEAKERi was moving from like they actually made it a marketing bullet point to say like hey you'll get
17:29SPEAKERthe same priority on our network that you would on verizon it's mostly been fine for me there's
17:34SPEAKERbeen like two or three times in the last year and a half that are almost two years that i've had it
17:38SPEAKERthat throughput seemed a little spotty in a way that maybe i wanted to blame on the carrier but
17:44SPEAKERalso my monthly bill went from eighty dollars to ten dollars so i think i'm fine with that
17:49SPEAKERa lot to be said for ten bucks i um i know that like some of the mvnos like the verizon one which
17:55SPEAKERis i think visible yeah actively advertises that you're on the same priority as the as the postpaid
18:01SPEAKERcustomers the the the thing uh there's that spreadsheet that explains all the mvnos and the
18:06SPEAKERand the primary carriers has a list for this for that rating um so yeah anyway yep cell phones
18:14SPEAKERi'm glad there are more options though like it's nice like i don't miss the days when it was verizon
18:19SPEAKERat and t or t mobile and that was it well well i mean there was always u.s cellular rack in there
18:24SPEAKERbut uh but yeah the mvnos are overall good i think it's yeah i think it's just good to have options
18:30SPEAKERum levi writes in i too agree with the multiple scales approach in the coffee area after trying
18:36SPEAKERto use the same scale for coffee and food and hating the back and forth i ended up getting a
18:40SPEAKERsecond one recently i saw alton brown is using a thermo works kitchen scale yes the same people
18:47SPEAKERthat make the therma pen the scale is called the gravitas it has the whole removable display and
18:54SPEAKERhead and it is apparently higher precision i have not tried this scale myself but it seems to have
18:58SPEAKERgone toward the top of my list secondly restaurant supply stores check out your local restaurant
19:03SPEAKERsupply to see which scales they have so okay so this came up because we were talking about coffee
19:08SPEAKERprecision versus scale precision and there was a big giant conversation about but how precise is it
19:13SPEAKERprecise enough for coffee on the discord yeah the answer is this turned into a weirdly contentious
19:19SPEAKERsubject on the discord i think yeah like the reason you want tenth of a gram precision isn't
19:24SPEAKERbecause you need tenth of a gram precision it's because the next jump up which is one
19:28SPEAKERgram precision is not precise enough so like the difference between 20 20 grams of coffee and 20.8
19:34SPEAKERgrams of coffee or 20.5 grams of coffee is not ideal um the the thing i found is that and then
19:42SPEAKERthe problem with that is in order to get a scale that has that precision that like can do a four
19:47SPEAKERpound weight for um for like flour measuring for baking is not they're gonna be really expensive so
19:57SPEAKERyou buy a cheap coffee scale that's high precision for coffee and or drugs and then you buy a cheap
20:04SPEAKERuh with like five pound scale ten pound scale for the rest of your kitchen stuff like measuring
20:09SPEAKERwater and and flour and stuff like that uh this alton brown one is really fancy the thermo works
20:15SPEAKERone i love the thermo pen yeah what is the thermo pen the thermo pen was the first high speed
20:22SPEAKERelectronic uh nsf certified thermometer for cooking i ever saw okay it was like it's what
20:29SPEAKERthey used to use on america's test kitchen in the old days okay uh and it's it reads in like a
20:35SPEAKERfraction of a second it's accurate to nsf standards it's calibratable the whole thing
20:42SPEAKERthey also do a cheap one called the thermo pop now i think that is all of those things but it uses a
20:47SPEAKERdifferent kind of technology and it's way way way less expensive okay even the the thermo pen one is
20:53SPEAKER75 which is kind of a lot for a digital thermometer but it's like you know that's not like i kind of
20:58SPEAKERwas expecting hundreds of dollars honestly so that's not too bad but anyway there you go it it
21:03SPEAKERused to be hundreds of dollars for sure when i bought mine it was 150 bucks i think oh i wonder
21:08SPEAKERif maybe the thermo pen one is the is the cheaper entry level version so the thermo pen one is the
21:13SPEAKERold one the the newer one is probably faster the uh the thermo pop uses a different uses a
21:21SPEAKERthermistor instead of a um a different kind of electronic sensor basically like like basically
21:27SPEAKERit's one of those things where the increase in compute made the cheap sensor much more viable
21:33SPEAKERbecause they can smooth out the the imperfections in the reading with software and and so those
21:39SPEAKERthermal pops i like i have a couple of thermopops they're 20 bucks it's what i take camping and stuff
21:43SPEAKERlike that and they're kind of indestructible and they're just as good as the pen for a fraction of
21:49SPEAKERthe price technology um all right question from james on windows 11 i use high contrast mode and
21:57SPEAKERlarger default font sizes because i'm low vision is there a combination of linux distro and front
22:03SPEAKERend ui like kde plasma or gnome etc which allows me to recreate this out of the box in the base
22:09SPEAKERsettings if not how hard would it be to recreate for myself this was a super good question i dug
22:15SPEAKERinto like what's available in accessibility stuff on the linux side uh as to to find this out uh so
22:22SPEAKERgnome and kde are the most fully featured desktop environments for accessibility stuff built in
22:29SPEAKERsurprising to me at all i'd say those are the most like professional quote-unquote
22:34SPEAKERdesktops yeah i think they have the most like shipping quality you know sort of like yeah
22:40SPEAKERyeah it's the most parity yeah commercial adjacent yeah yeah um there are some distros built
22:46SPEAKERspecifically for blind and low vision folks though uh so accessible coconut and ubuntu mate i think
22:54SPEAKERmaybe it's mate mate okay mate i believe then there's a bunch of others that are less updated
23:02SPEAKERmost of them are designed for blind users though not necessarily low vision users i think
23:06SPEAKERaccessible coconut has low vision modes uh the problem with a lot of this stuff from what i can
23:11SPEAKERtell is that the accessibility tools are generally better in x11 than wayland although that is
23:16SPEAKERstarting to change now so um if you're not using a screen reader it opens up a lot of things and
23:22SPEAKERand honestly if you can get it installed and work with it enough to do the customization
23:28SPEAKERyou can probably customize almost anything to get to where you want it to be now uh in terms of
23:34SPEAKERcontrast and font size but i don't know i like i don't know specifics i think the unfortunately
23:40SPEAKERthe thing you're gonna have to do and this is the hard part because my guess is that the installers
23:44SPEAKERare probably not particularly well accessibilized uh is set set it up futz around with it and find
23:52SPEAKERthe one you like and then and then use that config and uh and and do the install from there
23:59SPEAKERcool the more you know yeah generally speaking the the vibe is that linux is not as good as
24:05SPEAKERmac os and windows at this kind of accessibility stuff in particular yeah that's a shame although
24:09SPEAKERi mean i could see that continuing to improve in the future the the weird thing is that for
24:14SPEAKERscreen readers people really like it for for like for like braille uh display support and screen
24:20SPEAKERreaders and stuff like that people are generally really positive because you can get access to the
24:23SPEAKERwindows at a really low level in linux but but for the the i don't want to say it's not cosmetic
24:30SPEAKERbecause it is it isn't a cosmetic change but the things like uh like contrast themes and font
24:36SPEAKERrendering it's not as good as the as the commercial os is yeah yeah well you know the wayland
24:43SPEAKERtransition is still ongoing that's nowhere near complete yet so i would hope this is the type of
24:47SPEAKERthing that will improve further as that solidifies yeah it's it's it's also i feel like in the time
24:53SPEAKEReven that i've been running linux we've gone from wayland being the norm for edge users and weirdos
24:59SPEAKERand and like enthusiasts to being like the norm the norm right like like five plus years ago it
25:05SPEAKERwas still kind of experimental or it was only the thing you used if you were willing to put
25:08SPEAKERup with a lot of stuff not working right but yeah in fact um i'd have to check it's either
25:13SPEAKERgnome or plasma or maybe both now have gotten to the point where they have either deprecated
25:17SPEAKERx11 entirely or at least have announced like oh the next version is not going to support
25:22SPEAKERx11 anymore we're getting to that point where people are moving on to wayland solely well yeah
25:28SPEAKERand and the other thing that's happened is that the tools that let you run x apps inside wayland
25:32SPEAKERare better so like the x11 satellite and all that x11 wayland satellite and all that kind of stuff
25:38SPEAKERare are fairly robust these days yeah uh speaking of linux joshua writes in and says i was wondering
25:44SPEAKERif will could give an update on the status of the new linux podcast as a die-hard linux fan i'm
25:49SPEAKERreally looking forward to the first episode so i am it's getting close i'm committed to using open
25:55SPEAKERstuff for this so like i'm setting up the website on ghost and and all that kind of stuff it's
26:01SPEAKERtaking more time than i expected ghost is having come from like wordpress and movable type and
26:07SPEAKERdrupal and all the the more traditional cms's the way ghost works is wild um you can do all
26:14SPEAKERsorts of weird routing of posts based on tags using like this routing yaml file uh so it's
26:22SPEAKERreally powerful it's it's taken me a while to figure out in retrospect i should have just
26:26SPEAKERpaid someone the thing that remap did when they paid someone to figure this out was probably the
26:30SPEAKERright choice because are they on ghost they're on ghost yeah i think i knew that yeah yeah they uh
26:36SPEAKERrob talked about it right when they launched and they built a they basically the time they
26:40SPEAKERlaunched there was stuff that goes that ghost didn't do out of the box that they wanted to
26:44SPEAKERhave when they launched remap so like like patreon does a couple of things that are really convenient
26:49SPEAKERit generates like a private rss feed for subscribers right so if you have if you want to
26:54SPEAKERrun uh give give your subscribers a no ad version not a problem for this podcast but that's a thing
27:00SPEAKERyou can do right um if you want to do discord integration that's a thing you can do where when
27:05SPEAKERpeople subscribe they get access to a discord when you when they unsubscribe then they lose
27:08SPEAKERaccess to the discord and some of that stuff was surprisingly difficult on on ghost to to work out
27:15SPEAKERuh that's the way through it yeah i i considered uh ghosts for nextlander but you would have been
27:22SPEAKERreally early it turns out that was which was like well over five years ago at this point and and
27:27SPEAKERyeah it was i mean they take a much smaller cut than patreon but yeah also you were gonna also
27:34SPEAKERgonna have to do i shouldn't say everything i started to say you're gonna have to do everything
27:38SPEAKERyourself which i don't think is the case but you're definitely gonna have to do a lot more
27:42SPEAKERyourself which was just going to be a massive like admin and maintenance burden so i talked to rob
27:48SPEAKERand i talked to a couple other folks like there's hosted ghost providers now which i don't i think
27:52SPEAKERwere relatively new at the time you were doing you started nextlander like i the feeling i'm getting
27:58SPEAKERfrom him and from doing this is that once you get it up and running it's pretty pretty especially
28:03SPEAKERon a hosted provider if you're self-hosting obviously it's a different story but on a hosted
28:07SPEAKERprovider they do the day-to-day maintenance and then you just have to make sure that everything
28:12SPEAKERstays connected yeah uh there were there were other considerations there beyond the technical
28:16SPEAKERback end stuff i guess just to pull the curtain back a little bit i mean my other thought was
28:21SPEAKERlaunching on the platform where a ton of people already have an account and it's very convenient
28:26SPEAKERfor them to just say like oh yeah i'll click another button and support another thing because
28:29SPEAKERat that point it was just going to be expecting people to make a whole new login on a whole new
28:33SPEAKERservice just for us and that i know how i feel as a consumer when i have to do that like i this this
28:40SPEAKERi hate i hate being this person but like i don't even want to play a game that's not on steam
28:43SPEAKERanymore like if i have to go make make a separate login and download a new launcher just to play a
28:48SPEAKERgame that i wish was just on steam i'm like 50 50 whether i'll even bother or not yeah for this one
28:55SPEAKERi feel like the open solution is right also yeah i think that's actually interesting as a mission
29:00SPEAKERstatement i assume that's going to be part of the pitch of the podcast is like hey this this thing
29:03SPEAKERis entirely like run and produced with open tools because that's kind of the whole idea maybe at
29:08SPEAKERleast stuff that's available on linux right like i think there's there's some closed tools that
29:12SPEAKERi'll use at some point i'm sure but like resolve right yeah but uh but audacity i've been using i've
29:19SPEAKERbeen using audacity and reaper uh i've been using i've been making the logo in gimp which is god
29:25SPEAKERhelp me it is a bad piece of software in a lot of ways i don't want to derail too much here but um
29:32SPEAKERi might have to find a new image editor soon affinity has really gone to shit
29:36SPEAKERoh i'm still using v2 i just i just haven't yeah so so am i but i just discovered last
29:42SPEAKERweek that it's abandoned like they have end of life oh yeah affinity too because they got bought
29:47SPEAKERby canva i yeah i don't want to turn this into a big rant but affinity appears to be in shitifying
29:53SPEAKERat it like a at a record pace like they got bought out by canva not that long ago and immediately made
29:59SPEAKERaffinity photo both but both free but requiring like a login basically like you have to make a
30:04SPEAKERcanva account now to use like they just immediately turned it into kind of a loss leader for getting
30:11SPEAKERpeople into the canva ecosystem where the whole point the whole appeal of affinity was that it
30:16SPEAKERwas they were good low-cost alternatives to adobe that you yeah paid for once and just had like every
30:22SPEAKERversion you had to pay for like i bought a v1 license and then when version 2 came out i you
30:27SPEAKERknow and they offer a nice discount or did offer a nice discounted upgrade fee so i was like yeah
30:32SPEAKERsure i'll pay 65 bucks for to upgrade to the version 2 of all your stuff even though i really
30:38SPEAKERonly use photo but any anyway there are like major bugs in in affinity photo too that are never going
30:43SPEAKERto be fixed at this point and i would rather just buy a v3 that i could just buy yeah they don't
30:49SPEAKERoffer that anymore anyway that's just a quick way of saying i think i'm looking for a photo editor
30:54SPEAKERagain there's um i've seen i i saw a couple of painting apps uh that are in that front it's not
31:01SPEAKERexactly the same as a photo editor but like i've seen i've seen work happening for cross-platform
31:07SPEAKERwindows mac lennox photo editor or painting apps and i'm hoping that we're going to see more stuff
31:12SPEAKERlike that coming it seems like it seems like people are launching apps on a three-way split
31:18SPEAKERthese days which is nice so yeah yeah yeah that's cool so anyway the tldr is i have to finish the
31:23SPEAKERlogo i have the ghost stuff mostly working i have uh episode zero that at this point probably feels
31:30SPEAKERdated and i need to re-record and i've recorded episode one about four times and didn't really
31:34SPEAKERlike any of them so i'm gonna do it again and see if this one doing a solo podcast is a completely
31:39SPEAKERdifferent thing because yeah yeah i've entertained that idea before like i've thought about like if
31:44SPEAKERyou were out one week like without much notice i've thought to myself like could i do a whole
31:49SPEAKERepisode just monologuing to myself and i'm not sure i could i i did the question the questions
31:54SPEAKERepisode i was able to do yeah when you were out which was a little easier yeah that's that's got
31:59SPEAKERmaterial to bounce off of um i guess you could script it like you could kind of loosely script
32:04SPEAKERit and that would make it easier a lot of podcasts are kind of loosely scripted yeah i mean we're
32:09SPEAKERloosely scripted honestly but like but like i think having more sections and stuff like that
32:13SPEAKERwould be good but i mean more of like the npr style or i don't know name your name your kind
32:18SPEAKERof like reporting focused podcast where they're like kind of quasi reading an article that they
32:22SPEAKERwrote i i've listened to a lot of that kind of podcast lately i've listened to a lot of
32:28SPEAKERone-person shows over the last three months yeah uh and and because it's not a type of like i
32:35SPEAKERi tend to prefer the kind of podcast like we make actually the kind of conversational one yeah
32:39SPEAKERyeah but but there's a lot to learn it's a lot of fun i'm excited about it because it's more
32:43SPEAKERlike you're having a conversation with the audience than than with a co-host necessarily
32:47SPEAKERwhich i think is is uh like it's an interesting space to explore so anyway i'll let you know how
32:53SPEAKERit goes i don't know that i i mean this is not a judgment but i don't know that i expected you
32:58SPEAKERto go as all in on linux as you have like i really looked at you guys doing that podcast and thought
33:04SPEAKERlike oh they'll probably enjoy messing around with linux but i was fairly sure you would both
33:08SPEAKERgo back to windows full-time at the end of it i i'm gonna tell you there was a moment early on i
33:15SPEAKERmean there's an initial wall that i kind of pushed through in terms of how difficult it was uh and
33:22SPEAKERonce i got through that and i kind of understood the basic stuff then it was so nice to not be
33:28SPEAKERmarketed at constantly yeah like it was such a such a relief and such a load off yeah that it
33:34SPEAKERit it made me enjoy using just using my computer again in a way that i hadn't in a long time that
33:41SPEAKERthat and like there's also something really nice about having like the velocity of things you can
33:47SPEAKERlearn when you're learning a new os that's especially something that's as complicated
33:50SPEAKERand powerful and kind of generally configurable as linux is so yeah i i am i mean just to be clear
33:57SPEAKERthe podcast isn't all about linux the podcast is about retaking our computers from the intuitification
34:02SPEAKERcomplex right sure yeah linux is a big part of that yeah fixing windows is a big part of that
34:08SPEAKERtoo for what it's worth sure i i've been noticing some weird regressions in windows recently that
34:12SPEAKERit's and i don't know if this is all windows some of this so i gather maybe nvidia driver related but
34:18SPEAKERit's hard not to see all the fud going around about people talking about like windows being
34:22SPEAKERvibe coded and nvidia drivers being vibe coded these days and not think that that's related it's
34:28SPEAKERit's kind of like when you play a multiple like like i remember playing pubg in like late 2017
34:33SPEAKERwhen they were having problems with cheaters and remembering how toxic it is to play a game where
34:39SPEAKERthe cheating is a is even a minor problem it's because every time you're in a competitive game
34:44SPEAKERyou die and somebody somebody shoots you're like man that was a really incredible shot you're
34:49SPEAKERprobably cheating right and that just kind of erodes your confidence in the thing that
34:53SPEAKERyou're spending your time on and and the the the vibe coding is the same thing like i know
34:59SPEAKERmicrosoft is all in on vibe coding i know microsoft loves using copilot and chat gbt or whatever
35:04SPEAKERwhatever hell they're invested in these days i just assume it's every giant company at this point
35:09SPEAKERi i'm probably fair but i i think i mean there's some people that are better at implementing than
35:15SPEAKERothers it's the it's the there was a thread on blue sky the other day about systems thinkers
35:19SPEAKERversus versus technicians and the technicians are just you know doing the thing that they're
35:24SPEAKERtold the system thinkers are coming up with the thing and i feel like there's probably some truth
35:29SPEAKERto that in terms of like like if i sit down and i'm like hey claud write me an application that
35:34SPEAKERdoes this it's just going to shit something out that works for a little while and then
35:37SPEAKERkind of gets progressively worse and is unmaintainable if somebody who's a good
35:41SPEAKERprogrammer sits down and says hey i need 15 functions that do this this this this and this
35:46SPEAKERlike that's a more more reachable goal for the for the software for the for the machine
35:52SPEAKERi think i think that's right in concept but i gather that there's a very slippery slope there
35:57SPEAKERbecause if you look at programmers on social media these days like you'll see people talking about
36:00SPEAKERlike i've seen people talk about like oh like the person who mentored me and originally i'm
36:04SPEAKERpractically like quoting a blue sky post here or something but like somebody's saying like
36:08SPEAKERlike the person who mentored me when i was new and like rejected my pull requests for like poorly
36:15SPEAKERdescriptive function names is now just like merging claud output straight into the code base
36:19SPEAKERand shipping it without even like touching it you know what i mean like even i think even like very
36:24SPEAKERtalented engineers like skilled skilled technic technical people can still become too reliant
36:31SPEAKERwithout noticing i i wonder if this is what it was like in germany when they made speed legal
36:37SPEAKERi don't know maybe it's grim yeah um the the windows stuff is just like um like for example
36:44SPEAKERthey fixed the problem years ago where i don't know if you ever had this where your monitors
36:48SPEAKERwould go to sleep and you'd come back and it would have resized and moved around all your windows
36:52SPEAKERthat's back that went away for years and it's now back i've noticed that the audio output changing
36:58SPEAKERhas has come back even though windows 11 fixed that for a long time right right like i've like
37:03SPEAKERand some of these regressions they've disclosed in like windows update notes and like i've got
37:07SPEAKERanother one where like the i don't even know how to describe this the sort of contrast of the
37:12SPEAKERdesktop changes randomly which i think that might be a and a video driver related thing that's
37:19SPEAKERobnoxious it's it's whenever i it's when i open a video or when a web page is doing something that
37:23SPEAKERseems to be hitting the hardware acceleration on the gpu like the this is on a clean install too
37:28SPEAKERright yeah it was doing it before and after which is why i think it might be driver related anyway
37:32SPEAKERlike it really is a it's hard to look at that stuff and not think there's vibe coding involved
37:38SPEAKERand b it also makes me think maybe i should put more effort into moving to linux not that linux
37:44SPEAKERdoesn't have its own problems and also isn't affected by vibe coding let's be real because
37:49SPEAKEReven the colonel even even lettuce torvalds is accepting vibe coded colonel pull requests at
37:54SPEAKERthis point yeah it's it's um i mean look there's a usability hump to get over and then then then
38:01SPEAKERthings are generally pretty good like i looked up control yesterday which is like the last three
38:07SPEAKERday like star wars zero company control and i can't remember what the other game i played was
38:13SPEAKERbut the last three like launch day games i fired up on linux just worked out of the box which was
38:18SPEAKERthe first time that's ever happened it feels like they've been a couple of times when i've been
38:22SPEAKERworking in technology where i've been using something when it hit the hockey stick part
38:26SPEAKERof the of the usability and and and install base curve like we saw that with obs in the early 20
38:32SPEAKERlike 2015 2016 after they'd been out for four or five years um uh audacity is kind of a similar
38:40SPEAKERlonger time frame but like a similar moment too and it feels like we're at the moment like it
38:45SPEAKERfeels like things are getting good and easy and fast and like also the other guys are going the
38:51SPEAKERother direction so yeah yeah yeah i've got no qualms about the usability of it like i
38:56SPEAKERi sure as shit will sit and bend a computer to my will it's more it's more the having to reboot
39:01SPEAKERoccasionally like it's just the like oh we're gonna stream a game that's got some anti-cheat
39:04SPEAKERwhere i need to be back in windows like just the the hassle of having to go back and forth between
39:08SPEAKERtwo os's is the main thing honestly for me the reboot's actually nice because it means that i
39:13SPEAKERhave the os that i do most of my work in and then i switch over when i want to play games when i
39:18SPEAKERwant to play yeah it might change honestly and in fact i've thought about this i could see you i
39:23SPEAKERcould see a situation where like maybe i spend the weekend in linux you know it's like i get to the
39:27SPEAKERend of the work week and i'm like all right well that's enough windows for one week i'm gonna like
39:31SPEAKERwhen i compute this weekend it's purely going to be in a linux environment and that actually might
39:34SPEAKERbe a nice way to go but anyway sorry to move on quickly just to wrap up the the thing you said at
39:39SPEAKERthe top about not being marketed to yeah i think that's the thing that when i think about it in my
39:44SPEAKERmind feels the best about the idea of using more linux is the the purity like the kind of like the
39:50SPEAKERpurity of knowing that you are just using your computer and the software on it exists solely to
39:56SPEAKERlet you use your computer and not to sell you things that that's it's the difference between
40:00SPEAKERa computer that exists to sell me things and a computer that exists for me to use as a tool
40:05SPEAKERyeah and and it turns out that feels good getting me like it felt so good i hooked up my zune again
40:12SPEAKERso there you go all right uh okay well real quick we need to get some just to just to some discord
40:18SPEAKERquestions while we have time but real quick i'm going to ask you why you flagged this nate from
40:22SPEAKERfort collins colorado question what's the worst prior proprietary connector so i did some thinking
40:27SPEAKERlast night on this when this email came in okay before we get to that can i can i direct you to
40:33SPEAKERour epic two-part ranking of connectors episodes we did we did rank some connectors yeah definitely
40:39SPEAKERfor sure the answers may lie therein i mean look lightning and the ipad 40 were down there i don't
40:46SPEAKERthink we did abb ipod 40 pin did yeah did i say ipad 40 pin yeah but uh i don't think we talked
40:52SPEAKERabout the adb connector which is the apple apple data bus it's the did was it on there i think we
40:59SPEAKERtalked about it do you have the list still i couldn't find it i was gonna say i could probably
41:03SPEAKERfind that spreadsheet i don't know if people want to listen to us relitigate that whole thing
41:08SPEAKERi don't think we had dumb phone connectors was the other thing i don't know if you remember but
41:12SPEAKERin the pre iphone days pre micro usb pre usb-c every phone company had its own connector and each
41:21SPEAKERphone model had a different connector for some reason i think that's the worst i think that's
41:26SPEAKERthe all-time worst proprietary connector and i don't think we put that on the connector list
41:30SPEAKERi think i agree with you i found a spreadsheet maybe device specific barrel power is bad i don't
41:37SPEAKERsee i don't see ad oh yeah no apple this says apple desktop bus is that the same thing desktop
41:42SPEAKERbus yeah yeah sorry apple desktop bus was the old was there hey we're not using ps2 uh for
41:49SPEAKERkeyboard and mouse and uh they did multiple orientations on the different max and if you
41:55SPEAKERplugged it wasn't designed to be hot swapped so if you plugged it in hot you could kill the port
41:59SPEAKERor the keyboard i can't reach but you can kill hardware we gave it a d yeah i think we over i
42:05SPEAKERthink we overdid that i think it was i think that was too kind we didn't did we not rank
42:09SPEAKERd-sub miniature at all on this thing i don't know i don't see we must have except we probably didn't
42:17SPEAKERcall it that we probably call it mini den i should not i should not get into this here we go i'm
42:24SPEAKERbecoming i'm becoming a d-sub pedant oh no d-sub is like is is what you know as db9 okay but is
42:33SPEAKERactually de9 oh or what you know as db15 but is actually da15 wow my whole world is shook uh which
42:42SPEAKERone is the actual db i can't remember hang on let me see if i can we should move on i should not get
42:50SPEAKERinto this look it's all i can do to not hit you with the db's nuts uh in here so db25 is the 25
42:59SPEAKERpin one is the db one so it turns out why are we why were we bad at this is is there like
43:06SPEAKERis there logic on this yeah so there's a really good blog post on the site called spark fun
43:11SPEAKERelectronics which i think i love spark fun oh you know them okay it's like adafruit they sell kits
43:16SPEAKERelectronic kits and parts and stuff like that for projects they're great very much very much a
43:20SPEAKERboutique like by your by your circuit boards and and and um what's the uh what's the jumper
43:26SPEAKERoh my god it's breadboards breadboards and all that uh it shares a name with like a food product
43:32SPEAKERwhat is the name of the jumper i don't have any idea what you're talking about brad dupont
43:36SPEAKERconnector dupont cable that's what i was trying to think of well that was a fast 15 minutes you
43:41SPEAKERdon't you have no idea how much time i just edited out of this podcast that i was losing my mind
43:46SPEAKERtrying to remember the name of the dupont cable what's funny is as you said that i finally got to
43:51SPEAKERthe search that was like dupont cable on my screen at the same time so we you won the race it took me
43:57SPEAKERso long to find that that i don't even remember why we were talking about it at this point there
44:00SPEAKERis just a hole missing in this podcast but anyway um we should move on but yeah spark fun has spark
44:06SPEAKERfun has a blog up about uh they're also being slightly pedantic about it's entitled it's a de9
44:12SPEAKERnot a db9 but we know what you mean and like this is the kind of like well-meaning pedantry i can get
44:17SPEAKERbehind because they really frame it in a friendly way as like a history lesson which is i think it's
44:23SPEAKERalways worth kind of increasing your knowledge of where things came from and like okay at the end of
44:28SPEAKERthe article they say at spark fun we're engineers makers and educators at heart we believe in
44:33SPEAKERtechnical accuracy and in sharing our knowledge with the community like that kind of sums up
44:37SPEAKERexactly how i feel about this yeah it's it's good vibes while we know that a vast majority of people
44:42SPEAKERsearch for db9 we felt it was essential to stick to the correct de9 designation for our products
44:47SPEAKERbut they go into some historical detail in this thing about the the second letter in the d sub
44:53SPEAKERstandard actually refers to the size of the shape of the connector or the size of the d
44:57SPEAKERthese are called d subs these are called d subs because the the shape of the metal cage around
45:02SPEAKERthe pins is a d shape you see you get what i'm saying right if you turn wow wow wow wow get it
45:09SPEAKERwhat this is like this is a straight up phoenix down moment i had no idea see that's why it's
45:14SPEAKERcool to increase your understanding and accuracy about technical specifications like this because
45:19SPEAKERyou make cool connections like that but anyway it's the it's the size of the d shape cage around
45:24SPEAKERthe pins that determines that the letter so like da15 has 15 pins and is a a connector d9 pins yes
45:33SPEAKERyeah so they have a diagram here that shows so it's da15 db25 dc37 dd50 which i guess is a which
45:41SPEAKERone of those is a parallel port the dc37 sure parallel port two rows of pins it's two rows of
45:48SPEAKERpins anyway whatever it's a lot of pins this is all fine you can just keep calling everything db
45:52SPEAKERand everybody will be fine with it i just i like knowing stuff like this and also i've been kind
45:56SPEAKERof dealing with connectors like this a little more lately and some stuff with like arcade boards and
46:01SPEAKERso on and it's just nice to know these things so i wonder like one of the things that's interesting
46:07SPEAKERto me is over the last 20 years this kind of knowledge has kind of been compressed into
46:12SPEAKERaccurate like being accurate across the board you know what i mean like we don't have this problem
46:17SPEAKERwith new connectors because the inform like i think this confusion happened because these
46:23SPEAKERconnectors were popular at a time when information wasn't as readily available and they say exactly
46:28SPEAKERthat in this blog post they're like oh this this came about i don't have the text info oh here it
46:32SPEAKERis the original ibm pc used a db25 connector for its serial and parallel ports um most people are
46:39SPEAKERalready familiar with the term db25 simply swapped the number of pins and starting calling started
46:44SPEAKERcalling the new connector a db9 when a smaller 9 10 serial port was introduced like that's how it
46:48SPEAKERhappened yeah so it's no big deal but it's yeah it's it's weird that that doesn't happen anymore
46:53SPEAKERbecause the internet has made that kind of information readily available and also the
46:57SPEAKERfact that we search for everything all the time means that you have to know what things are called
47:01SPEAKERin order to find them yeah now i'm just gonna have to make this diagram of d-sub connectors the show
47:05SPEAKERart perfect that's what the kids are that's what that's what the kids crave that's that's what this
47:09SPEAKERpodcast is for yeah this podcast is made in our image all right let's do some discord questions
47:16SPEAKERyeah discord questions that was that was way too long of a derail but here we go was it a derail or
47:20SPEAKERa b rail that's it was it's a de rail not a db rail okay that makes sense uh hendubs asks why
47:27SPEAKERaren't there more open source wearables i've been degoogling and decorpoing my life recently and one
47:32SPEAKERof the trickier moves has been finding a fitness and recovery tracker that's not tied into a big
47:37SPEAKERcompany's data grab there are a few good looking software-based products but they all are projects
47:42SPEAKERbut they all seem to be focused on hijacking and repurposing existing devices like older whoop bands
47:49SPEAKERis it just that hardware is expensive pebble seem to be the only ones really pushing ahead
47:54SPEAKERbut they don't appear to be interested in health tracking i would assume that it's because small
48:00SPEAKERintegrated like tightly compact electronics are hard and require a lot of capital and a lot of
48:06SPEAKERknow-how and engineering and manufacturing capacity to execute well also anytime you get
48:13SPEAKERinto health data then there's regulatory and liability problems that are maybe not super
48:18SPEAKERcompatible with open projects like if you claim to be tracking heart rate which is not it's not
48:25SPEAKERlike i mean i guess you can buy off the shelf hardware heart rate sensors at this point probably
48:29SPEAKERbut like you need to make those things waterproof you need to make them um shock resistant all these
48:35SPEAKERthings are challenging and expensive um and the lawyers have thoughts so yeah uh the only only
48:42SPEAKERonly one i can think of is the pine 64 people have a smart watch the pine time yeah which i can't
48:48SPEAKERvouch for at all but it looks like an apple watch and is more open i believe i don't actually know
48:53SPEAKERwhat it runs like operating system wise there's a there's a bunch of uh so i did a little looking
49:00SPEAKERthere's there's a bunch of like esp32 kind of wearable broaches almost like the things you
49:06SPEAKERput on your shirt to do either uh you know voice stuff or to track or to record a picture every
49:13SPEAKER10 seconds or what you know if you want to time lapse your day i guess you could do that uh i
49:18SPEAKERdon't i don't know like this is one of those places that i think it's like this and headphones
49:24SPEAKERi think we're gonna have a hard time getting open it'll be a while before we see open projects that
49:28SPEAKERare that are anywhere near as robust as your garden variety fitbit yeah pebble maybe is the
49:34SPEAKERhope actually those guys seem to be doing it right yeah that's an interesting situation with google
49:39SPEAKERlike releasing that into the wild and letting it become open source again and like pebble coming
49:44SPEAKERback and everything but i found my first pebble the other day i was very excited the band had
49:48SPEAKERgotten all goopy though don't want a goopy band nobody wants a goopy band uh all right warbird
49:56SPEAKERi'm a sick freak that uses prosumer gear running through obs for work video calls because as
50:02SPEAKERmentioned i'm a sick freak i need some dumb obs tricks to pull out from time to time beyond just
50:08SPEAKERslowly spinning my camera feed around to mess with people look there's a whole world of filters
50:15SPEAKERin obs that you can do crimes with you can put luts on your on your video feed you can um what
50:22SPEAKERdoes that do you want to see sure i'm on the wrong one is that like luts luts so that's what i look
50:31SPEAKERlike with no luts oh no oh my god that's horrible it's just that's what i looked like with luts yeah
50:36SPEAKERwell so washed out it's just this color space thing the color space thing yeah so i'm i'm
50:42SPEAKERthe camera is sending flat you know non non uh developed essentially video and then the
50:49SPEAKERluts supplies that video automatically uh you can do things like uh if you put nvidia broadcast
50:55SPEAKERon your on your video output on your video which are either your video feed or your scene you can
51:01SPEAKERclip yourself out and put stuff in the background sure uh you can you can also i'll say you can also
51:07SPEAKERbypass the nvidia broadcast app and just install their audio and video yeah sdk's and obs supports
51:13SPEAKERall that stuff directly now that that's that's the way to do it not installing their their
51:17SPEAKERapp and using their virtual camera is the right answer having two layers of virtual cameras seems
51:21SPEAKERa bit hinky to me yep uh the uh you could make a bottom third kyron for yourself you know give
51:28SPEAKERyourself a new title like a t you should make yes make like a tv news frame yeah yeah that would be
51:34SPEAKERpretty good yeah you could you could uh superimpose yourself into different uh different venues that's
51:41SPEAKERreally fun i'm sorry i think it's very funny i am now really kind of fixated on making like a custom
51:45SPEAKERoverlay for yourself that makes you look like a tv news anchor yeah i think that i think that's
51:50SPEAKERreally funny i also think the thing i saw i think dan reicher did on a giant bomb video once where
51:56SPEAKERhe recorded himself in the background and then green screened his background like basically he
52:02SPEAKERrecorded video of his background with him walking around in it and then used that as his backdrop
52:06SPEAKERfor the for a normal call and that's that's incredibly stupid and good nope uh yeah pretty
52:12SPEAKERgood yeah that's pretty good i think with portals yep for sure i've mentioned this before i have
52:18SPEAKERthought from time to time about replacing the physical posters behind me with two framed green
52:23SPEAKERposter boards yep so i can just make those posters whatever i want very easily from day to day i don't
52:29SPEAKEReven think you'd well you you'd have to if the camera never moved the problem is i i my camera
52:35SPEAKERis on a freestanding base and every time i so it moves a little bit i put the base back on the
52:39SPEAKERfloor so the camera angle will never be the same you could if you had a very fixed camera angle
52:44SPEAKERyou could just do a cut out of your actual posters and that would work fine you could put you could
52:48SPEAKERput tape down to on your desk where the where the base goes yeah but then there's aiming too i guess
52:54SPEAKERyeah yeah it's it's it would be hard to line up also you'd have to rotoscope out your head
52:59SPEAKERsomehow to get the so you're not so the posters are not over top of your face i don't know it's
53:04SPEAKERthat's challenging the green screen would be easier that would be tough yeah anyway there's a world of
53:09SPEAKERpossibilities yeah putting a putting a monitor in the background that has the zoom call in it
53:15SPEAKERwould be really funny like that would be easy to do the the other thing to remember is you can put
53:22SPEAKERyou can make a scene in obs and then put that scene in your other scene as a source so like
53:29SPEAKERyou can have a whole scene and then you can use the studio mode to change those things live
53:33SPEAKERthe trick with studio mode is that some things are reflected live and some things aren't until
53:37SPEAKERyou do the transition so you do some experimenting before you're in your call also don't get fired
53:42SPEAKERyeah yeah don't go too far yeah that's good advice my friend gordon for years and years and years
53:50SPEAKERhad a different starship cockpit so like he had he had the luke the x-wing cockpit and he would
53:56SPEAKERput himself in there he had the the picard captain's chair he'd put himself in there
54:01SPEAKERlike you know all good stuff gordon would make a good starship captain it was a lot of fun playing
54:07SPEAKERbridge commander with him or the the vr the v was a bridge commander the star trek vr thing oh i've
54:13SPEAKERi can't remember which was which yeah um all right final v02 like a lot of folks my age i've been
54:20SPEAKERgetting back into retro handhelds both the chinese emulators and collecting originals like the og
54:26SPEAKERgame boy my 13 year old has outgrown his original nintendo switch and mostly tossed it aside
54:32SPEAKERi'd like to preserve it for him to get nostalgic over when he's middle-aged what's the move here
54:37SPEAKERtake out the batteries system and joy cons or should i just charge it up to 80 once a year
54:42SPEAKERthen put it back in storage will the system memory with his saves and everything lasts
54:47SPEAKERanything else i'm forgetting i i i can i can only speak from personal experience here that i had two
54:53SPEAKERsets of joy cons for the switch one and i had to pull all four of those batteries out years ago
54:58SPEAKERbecause they all swelled very visibly like kind of really fast yeah oh wow yeah and those were the
55:04SPEAKERstock factory batteries and and i'm trying to think if i did anything weird in terms of charging
55:11SPEAKERbehavior that would have accelerated that process but i don't think so did you use an external
55:14SPEAKERcharger for them or they were they mostly plugged into the switch yeah they were just on the switch
55:18SPEAKERin the dock the whole time wow like i i you know i use i didn't use the switch every day i don't
55:22SPEAKERknow if just sitting there charging all the time may have contributed but like all four of those
55:26SPEAKERjoy cons started getting fat at some point and i very rapidly took those batteries out and disposed
55:32SPEAKERof them i don't know about the system battery though so i i was gonna say i did some looking
55:36SPEAKERat this i looked to see if there was a long-term storage mode for the switch that's accessible to
55:40SPEAKERusers and i couldn't find one yeah so like does not does not seem like a like a nintendo like
55:44SPEAKERthing to do yes like steamed the steam deck most laptops you can put your laptop into like my my
55:51SPEAKERmy uh my laptop you can put the battery into like long-term storage mode and it will uh it will
55:57SPEAKERbasically it it requires you plugging it into a power source in order to turn it back on at that
56:02SPEAKERpoint like that's how that's how you signal to it that you're ready to get more power interesting
56:06SPEAKERthe uh same thing for the steam deck right the steam deck you can go into the firmware and put
56:11SPEAKERit into long-term storage mode and it'll it'll then the power button stops working the way you
56:15SPEAKERturn it back on is by plugging it in i think pulling the batteries is probably the right
56:20SPEAKERanswer here yeah if you if you're thinking about 40 years of storage and in fact this
56:25SPEAKERreminds me i've got psp's and nintendo ds's and stuff in boxes in the closet that i should
56:30SPEAKERprobably check on more often yeah i pulled the battery for my psp and he wasted it years ago
56:35SPEAKERbecause it was it was big yeah uh the vita is probably the next candidate for that if i had
56:39SPEAKERto guess i've got a i've got a new in box psp but i don't want to open because it's like one of the
56:46SPEAKERlimited edition ones that i've just been hanging on to because it might be
56:49SPEAKERworth something but now it makes me wonder what's going on with the battery inside that sealed psp
56:54SPEAKERleave it in the box and put it on ebay call it a day yeah maybe so it's a daxter psp
56:59SPEAKERoh that's what the kids are craving just the daxter set but a bug got in there like
57:04SPEAKERit's got a it's got a like a clear not cellophane but you know like clear plastic front so you can
57:09SPEAKERsee inside of it a bug got in the box at some point and got smushed between the plastic and the
57:15SPEAKERyeah so it's i don't know if that might affect the grade if i ever get that thing graded it
57:20SPEAKERmight affect the grade of it a bit that's wild i wonder if it came from the factory or if it came
57:25SPEAKERfrom you know i saw the bug i saw the bug in there oh okay crawling around yeah i uh yeah i i i think
57:33SPEAKERthe putting it on the dock and just letting it charge is also viable for everything i can tell
57:37SPEAKERsays that nintendo maintains the battery charge in a way that's not going to torch the batteries
57:42SPEAKERuh i would anything that you're going to leave for that 20 or 30 years i would definitely think
57:46SPEAKERabout how you store it though and make sure you pay attention to the batteries also on the save
57:51SPEAKERgames like modern flash storage does not last forever without power like it will eventually
57:56SPEAKERlose data if you don't supply it with more power at some point but it's hard to find like stats on
58:01SPEAKERwhat that time frame actually is the last time i looked around the conventional wisdom seemed
58:06SPEAKERlike it was on the order of like a decade before you needed to worry about it the um that's that's
58:11SPEAKERmy understanding as well the other thing is the thing we're dancing around we haven't actually
58:16SPEAKERsaid is you don't want the batteries to completely discharge like that's that that kills lithium ion
58:21SPEAKERbatteries and typically the device will put itself into safe mode at some point before it gets to the
58:27SPEAKERpoint that it's going to damage the batteries but then if you're talking about storing it for 10
58:30SPEAKERyears beyond that then then the battery will lose a little bit of charge each year even if it's in
58:35SPEAKERthat safe mode and you want to prevent that from happening if you want to be able to use it in the
58:40SPEAKERfuture although realistically in the future when he plays this he's going to plug it into some
58:43SPEAKERsort of wall cube tv or something and you know it'll be fine so yeah yeah uh tactical tug i've
58:50SPEAKERordered a raspberry pi 2 0 and a four inch screen for a project however due to what i can only assume
58:55SPEAKERis a mix-up at the company i bought them from i've received two of each i've checked the receipt
59:00SPEAKERi only paid for one of each and talking to them they told me to just keep them instead of going
59:03SPEAKERthrough a whole international return shipping circus i also don't feel like selling them and
59:08SPEAKERprofiting off of something i technically got for free so now i've got the luxury problem of being
59:13SPEAKERin possession of a spare pi zero and a touch screen any tips as to what this might be useful for
59:19SPEAKERso look the bank made an error in your favor this is a monopoly community chess card you you've
59:27SPEAKERyou've received a boon congratulations enjoy it i went and looked for pi zero projects last night
59:33SPEAKERthat i like easy pi zero touch screen projects the best one that i found was a compass that
59:40SPEAKERalways points to the nearest taco bell okay so you put it you so you'll need to get an imu
59:46SPEAKERa gps and a compass speaking of dan reicher yeah well look i i also have a fondness for the taco
59:52SPEAKERbell so yeah but you live near the best one so why would you ever go anywhere else i'm i'm ruined at
59:58SPEAKERthis but like i actually it's funny since we since we moved here i don't think i've been to another
1:00:02SPEAKERtaco bell probably maybe on maybe i took when we were on a road trip the kiddo wanted to stop
1:00:06SPEAKERat a taco bone around on the way someplace one time but anyway the point is that's the level of
1:00:11SPEAKERstupid i think you should be looking for like what's your what's the thing you always want to
1:00:15SPEAKERknow where it is like like one of the one of the okay i'm going to talk about harry potter and i
1:00:21SPEAKERapologize there's a there's a thing in one of the books early on that i absolutely love and i've
1:00:26SPEAKERalways wanted to make which is the where's everybody in the family clock that just points
1:00:31SPEAKERtoward like work school mortal danger all that kind of stuff it's a really clever idea with
1:00:36SPEAKERmodern phones and like a home assistant i had a prototype built years ago and i just never bothered
1:00:41SPEAKERto make it into a real thing but like that kind of that kind of ambient information display for
1:00:46SPEAKERpeople in your family i really like i think it's really fun um i i don't know like i i would think
1:00:54SPEAKERabout stuff like that like that kind of low power computer what's ambient information you want is it
1:00:59SPEAKERis it something really practical like air quality if you live someplace that there's fires is it
1:01:03SPEAKERwhether the day's weather is it the next thing on your calendar like like it would be cool to just
1:01:09SPEAKERhave a little screen on the wall that tells me the next thing on my calendar every day
1:01:12SPEAKERi i don't know i don't know what it is but i think that kind of ambient information is really cool
1:01:16SPEAKERyes i agree or you could do the talk about thing i don't i don't have any good ideas for this so
1:01:20SPEAKERi'm glad you have you showed up with some good ones um all right stig asks a question uh i'm i'm
1:01:27SPEAKERgoing to answer this based on having watched one youtube video several months ago that was
1:01:30SPEAKER10 minutes long about this so i'm i will preface this by saying anything i get wrong or understand
1:01:35SPEAKERpoorly that's why but i'm half taking this because i think it could be a good conversation starter
1:01:40SPEAKERon the discord potentially yeah i think this is a potential topic for the for the show too because
1:01:44SPEAKERyeah well yes but i man even even with fair amount of research i would still be pretty nervous talking
1:01:50SPEAKERabout this and getting i know somebody i know a guest okay i got a guest for this that would
1:01:55SPEAKERyeah i could think of some guests all right stig asks i'd like to understand more about arm and how
1:01:58SPEAKERit is so efficient compared to x86 while simultaneously so rapidly closing the performance
1:02:04SPEAKERgap that seemed so large even five years ago i'll tell you i'll tell you the one example that i can
1:02:09SPEAKERthink of or that i have from that video which is not arm specific but it goes to the difference
1:02:14SPEAKERbetween risk and sisk processors reduced instruction set versus complex instruction set
1:02:21SPEAKERlook it's the it's the great usenet and irc fights of the 90s are coming back to life right now
1:02:26SPEAKERyeah so the the quick example i can give is that with with risk all the instructions are the same
1:02:31SPEAKERlength and so when in fact instructions are being fed into the cpu are being decoded because again
1:02:36SPEAKERthis is all stuff i picked up from that video so i would love for people to help enhance my
1:02:40SPEAKERunderstanding of this of this subject but as the instructions are being decoded by this processor
1:02:46SPEAKERwhen they're all the same size you can chunk them up and feed them in much more efficiently
1:02:51SPEAKERthan with sisk instruction sets like x86 where the instructions are variable length and you
1:02:57SPEAKERcan't make assumptions about where instructions begin and end or how long they are or whatever so
1:03:02SPEAKERi gather that the decoding phase on x86 is more complex and therefore it's probably taking more
1:03:08SPEAKERelectricity to run i will say i i have i have come to understand like i think this was like started
1:03:13SPEAKERon the pinion pro like this was literally like a 30 years ago thing that internally they started
1:03:19SPEAKERbasically kind of breaking up x86 into a risk-like structure as it's being processed on on the cpu so
1:03:26SPEAKERlike i think some of those some of those advantages have eroded as they've adapted x86 but i think
1:03:31SPEAKERthey're still probably dealing with some legacy design stuff because like every modern architecture
1:03:35SPEAKERis risk now right i think that just that just won didn't it that i don't i'm not that level of
1:03:40SPEAKERarchitecture guy so i don't i don't know that like risk risk five obviously is risk like yeah arm of
1:03:46SPEAKERcourse is risk like power pc was risk that came about in the 90s like a spark like a sun's spark
1:03:51SPEAKERarchitecture was risk i think like everything is beyond instruction sets that came about in the
1:03:56SPEAKER70s which we're still living with well um so there is that i was going to say the other thing that's
1:04:02SPEAKERhappened is that the machines have gotten better at predicting how the how the code is going to go
1:04:08SPEAKERthrough the through the through the machine uh and and as a result there's less wasted cycles so
1:04:16SPEAKERthe the thing that's happened in the last few years is that intel from the basically when
1:04:21SPEAKERapple started making their own chips for their max and when intel thought that was going to be
1:04:26SPEAKERpossible they started working on power consumption on the upcoming generations of chip a lot and a
1:04:32SPEAKERlot of that stuff is decidedly unsexy work like being better at branch predictions and having less
1:04:37SPEAKERwasted cycles and you know that kind of stuff to the point that with like the lunar lake generation
1:04:43SPEAKERyou saw comparable power life from the x8 from their architecture and com and at the same time
1:04:49SPEAKERarm was becoming more performant and you're seeing you know basically six of one half dozen of the
1:04:55SPEAKERother across across those two product lines we we should get a guest on and talk about this because
1:05:01SPEAKERi think there's a lot to get into here i would love to pick somebody's brain about this who is
1:05:05SPEAKERvery learned in the field um the other thing that i have come to kind of absorb through osmosis and
1:05:11SPEAKERpeople can correct me on this is that some of like arm's inherent efficiency advantages have
1:05:16SPEAKERbeen maybe a bit overblown in the public consciousness because if as you've seen with
1:05:20SPEAKERlike lunar lake and panther lake recently like x86 is also capable of being very power efficient
1:05:25SPEAKERand fast a lot of that stuff was just earlier arm chips focusing more on process node optimizations
1:05:32SPEAKERwhere intel was way behind on that stuff and as as they have focused much more on more efficient
1:05:39SPEAKERfabrication nodes like x86 is catching up there as well but the the other thing that arm has
1:05:44SPEAKERtraditionally done that the pc does outside of the outside of the cpu is arm arm vendors will
1:05:53SPEAKERjust dump co-processors like crazy in to make hardware solutions to software problems right
1:06:00SPEAKERso if there's some piece of if there's some bit of math that runs in software on the cpu
1:06:05SPEAKERon an arm soc the next generation will have a hardware a small hardware co-processor inside
1:06:11SPEAKERthe soc or on the die someplace that does that math and and that accelerates like software modems
1:06:16SPEAKERare a good example right so rather than having a hardware modem you did the software modem and it's
1:06:20SPEAKERlike you get all the benefits of running everything in software and lower power consumption in the
1:06:24SPEAKERwhole thing anyway we don't need to get into it but yeah uh you want to do one more yeah we we're
1:06:29SPEAKERgonna have to do more discord questions on the patron episode this month because we did not get
1:06:33SPEAKERto very many of them okay last question from fernando brad mentioned on nextlander that the
1:06:38SPEAKER10 government stake taken in intel was basically a protection racket i have completely cut off all
1:06:45SPEAKERpolitical news from my life could you to please elaborate in your usual objective well-researched
1:06:50SPEAKERway on how that deal came about and the details of it i don't know that there has been a thoroughly
1:06:55SPEAKERreported like narrative uh narrative report about never you know you know of the of the type that
1:07:01SPEAKERyou know i'm talking about like a deeply reported like new york times or washington post's article
1:07:06SPEAKERthere's too much other chaos to cover but i i i both have listened to political podcasts talking
1:07:12SPEAKERabout this recently and then went and followed up on even just the very obvious publicly available
1:07:17SPEAKERinformation and the very quick gist which again you can go and look at social media posts and put
1:07:21SPEAKERtogether yourself is that the new uh the new ceo of intel lit butan is chinese and it seems like
1:07:29SPEAKERit was just standard issue sinophobia that people like senator tom cotton immediately started
1:07:34SPEAKERgrousing about his supposed connections to the chinese communist party and basically saying he
1:07:39SPEAKERwas unfit to be leading an american company and then trump laid in with he must resign immediately
1:07:45SPEAKERhe is a conflict of interest and then tan met with trump and then suddenly trump was very laudatory
1:07:52SPEAKERabout his potential as the intel ceo at exactly the same time that the u.s government also
1:07:57SPEAKERtook 10 of intel well the other part of it the other part of it is that you know intel was on
1:08:05SPEAKERwas on the the role for getting a huge amount of chips act money that was passed during the
1:08:10SPEAKERbiden administration to open things like the 18a fab in in arizona and and to do infrastructure
1:08:18SPEAKERin the u.s right to build a four nanometer infrastructure in the u.s and uh the when that
1:08:25SPEAKERwhen the payouts were due during the early days of the second trump term he just said we're not
1:08:30SPEAKERgoing to pay it yeah and the the way that they got the money released was by giving 10 of the
1:08:36SPEAKERcompany to the united states in a way that i as i understand it it was unclear how that transfer
1:08:42SPEAKERwas how that ownership was going to happen because it's not like the u.s can own stock in companies
1:08:46SPEAKERso now i can up until that point that was an unprecedented development any anyway basically
1:08:53SPEAKERuh it was actually i i was reminded in reading about this that something similar happened with
1:08:57SPEAKERnvidia where if you remember nvidia was not cleared to sell gpu's in china and then once
1:09:03SPEAKERthey made an agreement to give the government a 15 cut of all sales of gpu's to china that suddenly
1:09:08SPEAKERwas was weird permitted to occur yeah uh this seems like a similar situation but the intel thing
1:09:16SPEAKERthe intel thing they were really up against over the barrel because they'd spent a ton of money on
1:09:19SPEAKERthe fabs especially the 18a fab in in arizona and then suddenly needed to get the rest of the money
1:09:28SPEAKERthat the u.s government owned the owed them as appropriated by the congress of the united states
1:09:32SPEAKERthe budgetary authority in the united states yeah weird and uh and the the executive branch wasn't
1:09:38SPEAKERreleasing so yes anyway anyway basically seems like a basic case of it would be shame if something
1:09:44SPEAKERhappened to your company yeah strong strong man uh strong man diplomacy it's bad anyway that's as
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1:11:33SPEAKERyeah same to you uh i'm gonna say behind the scenes for people who have listened all the way
1:11:38SPEAKERthrough we had to switch from our normal video conferencing to discord midway through and you
1:11:42SPEAKERhave been this entire time doing all sorts of weird like max headroom style like jittering back
1:11:47SPEAKERand forth like where the video is speeding up and catching up and slowing down and catching up it's
1:11:52SPEAKERreally been incredible and i wish i'd captured some of it i wonder if something's going on with
1:11:56SPEAKERthe internet pipes between here and there i don't know man two different video calls have kind of
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