00:00SPEAKER- I think the best thing about getting the dog
00:03SPEAKERhas been that I have somebody in the house
00:05SPEAKERthat is always incredibly excited to go on a walk with me.
00:09SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a dog thing for sure.
00:10SPEAKER- Sometimes there's pros and cons.
00:12SPEAKERSometimes he's a little more excited than I want
00:14SPEAKERat like seven o'clock in the morning.
00:15SPEAKER- Sure.
00:16SPEAKER- But it's also kind of cool
00:18SPEAKER'cause it's like walking around the world
00:19SPEAKERwith a video game NPC.
00:22SPEAKERLike I've never had a dog
00:24SPEAKERthat really relished a walk before.
00:25SPEAKERLike when we lived in the city and we first got Chloe,
00:29SPEAKERshe needed to go on walks
00:30SPEAKER'cause that's where she went to the bathroom.
00:31SPEAKERBut that was very much a,
00:33SPEAKERI enjoy the going to the bathroom part
00:35SPEAKERand then as soon as she would finished voiding herself,
00:37SPEAKERthen she would like turn around and wanna head for home.
00:39SPEAKER- Yeah, I can identify.
00:41SPEAKER- Yeah, but this is like, he wants to go on adventures.
00:44SPEAKERHe is, Toby is 100% out in the world.
00:47SPEAKERLike I want to go see different things and like--
00:50SPEAKER- He's an adventure corgi.
00:52SPEAKER- He is an adventure corgi.
00:53SPEAKERLike we go out and I just kind of let him choose
00:55SPEAKERwhich way to go.
00:57SPEAKERAnd if the walk is not long enough
00:59SPEAKERand when he senses that we're back near the house,
01:01SPEAKERhe just kind of sits down and is like,
01:03SPEAKERyo man, I'm not done yet.
01:04SPEAKERThis isn't enough.
01:05SPEAKER- I'm not walked out yet.
01:06SPEAKERDoes he have free run of the backyard
01:09SPEAKERwhen he's not being walked or like,
01:11SPEAKERI can't remember, I haven't been to your house in so long.
01:13SPEAKERI can't remember, it's fully contained, right?
01:15SPEAKER- Yeah, the backyard's fully fenced,
01:17SPEAKERbut it also is a place where wild animals come sometimes.
01:20SPEAKERLike we have mountain lions
01:22SPEAKERand like we've never seen a mountain lion
01:23SPEAKERor a coyote in our backyard,
01:25SPEAKERbut I have definitely seen coyote leavings in our backyard.
01:27SPEAKER- Yes, we've talked, yes, okay, I forgot.
01:30SPEAKER- Yeah, no, and like, so he's not usually out unsupervised,
01:33SPEAKERespecially in like the evening or early morning hours.
01:37SPEAKERAnd also he's young enough
01:38SPEAKERthat like he still is in danger of digging.
01:40SPEAKERSo we don't want him digging up the garden
01:41SPEAKERor anything like that.
01:42SPEAKERHe's very curious about gophers,
01:46SPEAKERwhich we have a large problem with right now.
01:49SPEAKERAnd he's very excited about jamming his nose,
01:51SPEAKERhis whole snout down gopher holes,
01:53SPEAKERwhich seems high risk to me,
01:54SPEAKERbut like, I guess he has to learn somehow.
01:58SPEAKERBut yeah, no, he's very much like,
02:02SPEAKERthe thing that's interesting is
02:03SPEAKERhe's always interested in meeting other people.
02:05SPEAKERHe's sometimes interested in meeting other dogs,
02:07SPEAKERbut he loves sniffing things.
02:09SPEAKER- Yeah, that's, you know, dogs got noses
02:12SPEAKERand they know how to use them.
02:13SPEAKER- Yeah, he loves to do a good sniff.
02:15SPEAKERSo- - The dog knows nose.
02:17SPEAKER- Well, which nose is the nose though?
02:19SPEAKERIs it the nose, the K first or the N first?
02:22SPEAKER- The nose possessed by the dog knows
02:24SPEAKERthings is what I'm saying.
02:26SPEAKERThe dog knows, the nose on the dog knows.
02:30SPEAKER- Yes, okay, so there's one other thing about the walking.
02:35SPEAKERI get to look, when I'm walking in the evening,
02:37SPEAKERpeople are like doing stuff in their garage.
02:38SPEAKERWe've talked about Pacific garage hangouts before, I think,
02:42SPEAKERbut a lot of people turned their garages
02:43SPEAKERinto like impromptu rec rooms.
02:45SPEAKER- Okay, sure, weight bench, you know, kind of maybe a TV.
02:49SPEAKER- Yeah, the elliptical treadmill.
02:52SPEAKERYesterday, I saw a dog running on a treadmill
02:54SPEAKERin somebody's garage, which was really funny.
02:55SPEAKER- Wow. - Yeah.
02:58SPEAKERA lot of people have like fully decked out
03:00SPEAKERBay Area sports team stuff.
03:01SPEAKERSo you'll see like a Raiders or 49ers garage.
03:04SPEAKERAnd then there's always some, yeah,
03:05SPEAKERfootball or baseball game or something on.
03:08SPEAKERThe other day, I talked to some folks
03:10SPEAKERwho were completely sealing in their garage,
03:12SPEAKERlike doing drywall on the sides,
03:13SPEAKERwhich I've never had a finished garage before.
03:16SPEAKER- I don't know if that's a garage anymore.
03:18SPEAKER- Seems nice though.
03:19SPEAKER- It's just a room with a big door.
03:21SPEAKER- I think I'm gonna, I think I see
03:24SPEAKERon the Pacifica Free Stuff site all the time,
03:27SPEAKERI see people like getting their old kitchen cabinets.
03:29SPEAKERAnd I'm kind of thinking,
03:31SPEAKERmaybe I should sheet rock up the garage
03:33SPEAKERand then just hang cabinets on all the sides.
03:35SPEAKERAnd then, you know, all my storage problems will be solved.
03:39SPEAKER(upbeat music)
03:51SPEAKER(upbeat music continues)
04:07SPEAKER- Welcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod.
04:09SPEAKERI'm Will.
04:10SPEAKER- I am Brad.
04:11SPEAKERI had one other thread for the cold open
04:12SPEAKERthat I decided to drop.
04:14SPEAKEREven the interest of getting this thing done.
04:16SPEAKERBut now here I am bringing it up anyway.
04:17SPEAKERWhen you described your dog as an NPC,
04:21SPEAKERit made me want to ask, can you pet the dog?
04:24SPEAKER- It turns out, yes, he's enthusiastic about petting.
04:27SPEAKERHe will walk up to you and like nose your hand
04:30SPEAKERwhen you're not being petted,
04:31SPEAKERwhen he's not being petted enough.
04:32SPEAKER- And in the popular game, dog ownership,
04:34SPEAKERdoes it let you pet the dog?
04:35SPEAKER- You can pet the dog.
04:36SPEAKERIt's not, this isn't a GTA like
04:38SPEAKERwhere the dog is just, you know, out there.
04:40SPEAKER- Good to know.
04:41SPEAKER- Yeah.
04:43SPEAKERIt's the end of the month, Brad.
04:44SPEAKERSo that means it is the time
04:45SPEAKERin which we traditionally answer the questions.
04:47SPEAKERAnd it's been a minute since you've been here
04:49SPEAKERfor one of these.
04:50SPEAKER- Yes, true.
04:51SPEAKER- So this is very exciting.
04:52SPEAKERI'm glad to have you back
04:53SPEAKERbecause there are a lot of Brad-focused questions this month.
04:57SPEAKERIf you, if you would like to email a question
05:02SPEAKERor send it into the Discord,
05:03SPEAKERyou can go send it to techpod@content.down.
05:07SPEAKERIt will be mixed in with a bunch of people
05:08SPEAKERpitching AI podcast business velocity tools.
05:14SPEAKERAnd we get a lot of spam on that address now.
05:17SPEAKERI might have to change the podcast email address
05:20SPEAKERbecause it's a lot of, it's a lot of,
05:23SPEAKERit's a lot of like business spam there.
05:25SPEAKERBut anyway. - It's bad.
05:26SPEAKERIt is real bad.
05:27SPEAKERI was going through my next lander email spam
05:30SPEAKERthe other day because like just enough,
05:32SPEAKERjust enough like emails from listeners to the podcast
05:35SPEAKERand like offers of review codes and stuff
05:37SPEAKERhave ended up in spam that I go through
05:39SPEAKERlooking for legitimate stuff.
05:40SPEAKER- Yeah.
05:41SPEAKER- There is just an unbelievable,
05:43SPEAKERand it has to all be AI-generated amount of like podcast spam
05:46SPEAKERlike your podcast could be doing better.
05:48SPEAKERTalk to us to make it so, you know what I mean like.
05:51SPEAKER- So my wife watches TikTok some and she asked me,
05:55SPEAKERshe was like, "Hey, I saw this thing the other day
05:56SPEAKERabout infinite business."
05:58SPEAKERAnd I was like, "Oh, let me tell you.
06:00SPEAKERLet me tell you about infinite businesses."
06:02SPEAKER- Yeah, I wish I had not heard the phrase
06:04SPEAKERbusiness velocity.
06:05SPEAKER- Yeah, it's gnarly.
06:08SPEAKERSo yeah, anyway, techpod@content.down
06:11SPEAKERor if you're in the Discord, if you're a patron,
06:12SPEAKERyou can go to patreon.com/techpod, sign up.
06:15SPEAKERAnd then you get access to the question seeking answers
06:17SPEAKERchannel where you can post questions into the void
06:20SPEAKERanytime you have a whim or a hint of a question
06:23SPEAKERthat you feel like you might want answered by Brad
06:25SPEAKERand or me at some point in the future.
06:27SPEAKER- Yep, that's right.
06:29SPEAKER- We have a good crop this month.
06:30SPEAKER- Yep, as always.
06:33SPEAKERHere's an email from Big Head Mode.
06:36SPEAKERI don't think that's the real name, but I guess it could be.
06:38SPEAKER- I like Big Head.
06:40SPEAKERI feel like more shooters today need a Big Head Mode.
06:42SPEAKER- Yeah, sure.
06:43SPEAKER- Was that debug for testing you think back in the day?
06:45SPEAKER- I don't know, I didn't think about that.
06:48SPEAKER- Like I assume it had to be
06:49SPEAKERwhen they were testing headshots.
06:51SPEAKER- What is the history of Big Head Mode?
06:53SPEAKER- I feel like the first time I saw it was GoldenEye maybe.
06:56SPEAKER- You know, if only there were a video game Wiki
06:58SPEAKERthat tracked conceptual aspects of video game design
07:02SPEAKERthat we could wary.
07:04SPEAKER- Yeah, if only.
07:05SPEAKER- To see.
07:06SPEAKER- If only that existed, what a magical tool a Wiki is.
07:10SPEAKER- What the first game was with a Big Head Mode.
07:13SPEAKERAll right.
07:14SPEAKER- Future episode.
07:15SPEAKER- Hang on.
07:16SPEAKERThat was me talking slowly while I clicked through
07:18SPEAKERto try to find out, I don't know.
07:21SPEAKER- Giantbomb.com/wiki/bigheadmode right now.
07:24SPEAKER- I'm not super versed in Giant Bomb's new current redesign.
07:27SPEAKERI don't, these games are presented alphabetically,
07:29SPEAKERnot chronologically at the moment.
07:31SPEAKERSo I can't tell you right now which one of these is first.
07:34SPEAKER- I'm just sending a harshly worded email
07:36SPEAKERto the proprietors over there.
07:38SPEAKER- Yes, anyway, all right, Big Head Mode writes an email.
07:42SPEAKERI think this is a followup
07:43SPEAKERabout our AI scraping poisoning talk.
07:46SPEAKER- Yes.
07:47SPEAKER- The niche audio site, Hydrogen Audio.
07:49SPEAKERHave you been there?
07:50SPEAKERI have, I will end up on Hydrogen Audio every so often
07:53SPEAKER'cause that is a very old hardcore audio forum.
07:56SPEAKER- Yeah, I've been there.
07:58SPEAKERI was looking at DBX solutions there one time for you.
08:02SPEAKER- Oh, I have a DBX story by the way.
08:05SPEAKER- Oh, okay.
08:06SPEAKER- My DBX story is the DBX has issued me a return
08:09SPEAKERto manufacturer authorization for that 286S.
08:13SPEAKER- Ooh, that's exciting.
08:14SPEAKER- And a shipping label.
08:15SPEAKER- They're gonna send you a new broken one
08:16SPEAKERthat you can then put on eBay or something?
08:18SPEAKER- It's going to a service center.
08:19SPEAKERSo I assume they're gonna try to fix mine.
08:22SPEAKER- Okay.
08:23SPEAKER- I'm not optimistic, but I have begun the process.
08:25SPEAKER- Okay.
08:26SPEAKER- They originally tried to bill me $110
08:30SPEAKERto take a look at it.
08:31SPEAKERSorry, it was 70 to take a look at it and 110 to fix it.
08:34SPEAKER- Yeah, that seems like a bad deal.
08:36SPEAKER- And then I said, "This is still under warranty."
08:39SPEAKER- Wow.
08:40SPEAKER- And then they sent me a new work order listing it
08:43SPEAKERas an end warranty repair for free.
08:45SPEAKER- Oh my God.
08:47SPEAKER- I don't know if that was,
08:48SPEAKERit may have just been an honest mistake,
08:50SPEAKERbut it also made me wonder if companies sometimes
08:54SPEAKERjust do that hoping you won't notice.
08:56SPEAKER- Dude, I really liked my vet, but they sold us a,
08:59SPEAKER"Hey, pay for your dogs neutering
09:01SPEAKERand first year of care thing all in one,
09:04SPEAKERlike billed monthly over the course of the year."
09:06SPEAKERAnd you get all the vet visits you need,
09:08SPEAKERthey don't charge you.
09:09SPEAKEREvery time I go in to check out,
09:10SPEAKERI have to say, "Hey, I'm on the plan."
09:12SPEAKER- Yeah.
09:14SPEAKER- Why do I have to say that?
09:15SPEAKER- You would think.
09:16SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway.
09:18SPEAKER- I sent them the invoice that very clearly showed
09:20SPEAKERa purchase date within the warranty period.
09:22SPEAKER- I had to RMA a thing yesterday
09:24SPEAKERthat is less than a year old.
09:26SPEAKERThe product has been around for less than a year.
09:28SPEAKERIt has a two year warranty.
09:30SPEAKERAnd they were like, "Hey, you need to send me
09:31SPEAKERproof of purchase."
09:32SPEAKERI'm like, "Why?"
09:33SPEAKERLike this product hasn't existed for two years.
09:35SPEAKER- Yup.
09:36SPEAKER- Anyway, whatever. - Everything's great.
09:37SPEAKER- Okay, so they're fixing the GBX, that's a good sign.
09:38SPEAKER- Yes, anyway, Hydrogen Audio is a very old AI
09:41SPEAKERor audio form that like half the time
09:43SPEAKERI Google some obscure thing I'm trying to do with audio,
09:47SPEAKERI will end up on a thread from like 15 years ago
09:49SPEAKERon that form.
09:50SPEAKER- Probably where I learned how audio comp,
09:52SPEAKERlike not compression to make the files smaller,
09:54SPEAKERbut to make the sounds more even works.
09:57SPEAKER- Hydrogen Audio claims 30 to 40,000 requests per hour
10:03SPEAKERper AI.
10:04SPEAKEROn page one, they claim 12,000 non-logged in guests.
10:09SPEAKERThat's, you know, that's just the front of the forum
10:10SPEAKERwhere you just see a real time stat about how many,
10:12SPEAKERkind of roughly how many visitors they're having.
10:14SPEAKERThis is a site where a popular topic gets 25 posts.
10:18SPEAKER- That's insane.
10:19SPEAKER- Yes, a wild addendum to how widespread
10:21SPEAKERthe AI hollowing out of the web has been.
10:25SPEAKERThis site can apparently afford to eat the bandwidth cost
10:27SPEAKERfor no gain to themselves.
10:29SPEAKER- I mean, so the bandwidth cost for like a text site
10:32SPEAKERisn't that, isn't huge, but 12,000 non-logged in guests
10:36SPEAKERan hour is like more than we ever had
10:40SPEAKERoutside of like traffic spikes.
10:43SPEAKERThat's a huge number of people for a website.
10:45SPEAKER- Yeah, I think another crazy angle on this to me
10:48SPEAKERis how many different models could there be
10:51SPEAKERthat are being trained in the world right now?
10:53SPEAKERLike there's only, of course, I guess maybe in fairness,
10:57SPEAKERmaybe the big players are constantly training
11:00SPEAKERnew experimental models that never see the light of day
11:03SPEAKER'cause I was thinking, it's like, oh, OpenAI
11:05SPEAKERonly puts out a new chat GPT every year or something.
11:08SPEAKERLike there can't be that many like mom and pop AI trainers
11:12SPEAKERout there, right, but maybe it is mostly the big players.
11:14SPEAKERBut then again, they wouldn't need to scrape over and over.
11:16SPEAKERThey would scrape the data once and then just have it.
11:18SPEAKERSo who are all these requests?
11:21SPEAKER- Well, so yeah, the big players made copies
11:24SPEAKERof the internet a while ago and are training off of that
11:27SPEAKERso they don't crap up their training
11:29SPEAKERwith the garbage content that their models have created.
11:34SPEAKERAre you familiar with Hugging Face?
11:36SPEAKER- The name sounds familiar.
11:38SPEAKER- Well, Nvidia just bought them for like $12 billion.
11:41SPEAKERIt's their repository.
11:42SPEAKERIt's basically the repository for a bunch of models.
11:44SPEAKERIt's where people post their models, upload them,
11:46SPEAKERand then you can download them and all this other stuff.
11:50SPEAKER- The third link when I Google Hugging Face
11:52SPEAKERis on openai.com entitled The Hugging Face Incident
11:56SPEAKERand the Road Ahead.
11:58SPEAKER- Yeah, we haven't talked about that yet,
12:00SPEAKERbut OpenAI's frontier model
12:02SPEAKERjust hacked Hugging Face the other day.
12:05SPEAKERYeah, everything's fine though, don't worry about it.
12:08SPEAKERWe're not gonna talk about the AI.
12:09SPEAKERLook, we maybe need to do a news episode next week
12:12SPEAKERis all I'm saying.
12:13SPEAKER- Is that unrelated to the thing
12:14SPEAKERwhere a bunch of experimental models
12:16SPEAKERwere found to be communicating with each other
12:18SPEAKERoutside of the bounds of what they were scoped with?
12:22SPEAKER- These are all related and then Bill Gates posted his thing
12:25SPEAKERthe other day where he was in a podcast interview
12:27SPEAKERand said, "Hey, you know, maybe this is bad."
12:28SPEAKERAnd then all the big people that have made the models
12:31SPEAKERthat are maybe bad posted things that said,
12:32SPEAKER"Hey, you know what, maybe these are bad."
12:34SPEAKER- And I also saw, maybe relatedly,
12:37SPEAKERlike all the major AI players
12:39SPEAKERhave started petitioning the government saying like,
12:41SPEAKER"Hey, AI powered cyber attacks
12:42SPEAKER"are probably about to become a very bad problem.
12:46SPEAKER"We should maybe plan for this."
12:48SPEAKER- Our water boards and all the places
12:51SPEAKERthat are like critical infrastructure
12:53SPEAKERaren't anywhere near hardened enough
12:54SPEAKERor have the budget to harden themselves enough
12:56SPEAKERto protect against this.
12:57SPEAKER- Yeah, great. - Yeah.
12:59SPEAKER- Cool. - So yeah, that sucks.
13:01SPEAKERHydrogen audio was one of the other sites
13:02SPEAKERI had seen mention this.
13:04SPEAKERThere's a bunch of other, when that article came out
13:07SPEAKERthat we talked about a couple weeks ago,
13:08SPEAKERthere were a bazillion similar responses
13:10SPEAKERbecause what happens is like you or I
13:13SPEAKERcould spin up a local model
13:15SPEAKERthat then scans whatever page we tell it to go to.
13:17SPEAKERLike it makes kind of industrialized scraping
13:20SPEAKERreally, really easy, which sucks.
13:22SPEAKER- Yep, yep, yep, yep.
13:26SPEAKER- Fernando has a question.
13:28SPEAKER- Okay.
13:28SPEAKER- Recently, my adorable dog, Teddy,
13:30SPEAKERspilled a glass of water on my fancy keyboard.
13:34SPEAKERWhile I wait for Keychron to send me a replacement PCB,
13:37SPEAKERcould you please regale us with your tales
13:39SPEAKERof pet mishaps and disasters involving tech?
13:43SPEAKERAdditionally, please use your platform to shame Teddy.
13:46SPEAKERJust kidding, she's a good girl.
13:47SPEAKERTeddy is going to be the show art this week.
13:49SPEAKER- Teddy is very cute.
13:51SPEAKER- I am just pulling this image out now
13:53SPEAKERto upload into the podcast for him.
13:55SPEAKER- Teddy is not, Teddy did nothing wrong.
13:57SPEAKERNo crime in the Darth way.
13:59SPEAKER- Well, actually, not to keep derailing these emails,
14:01SPEAKERbut there isn't actually a good way to just pull an image
14:06SPEAKERout of Google Docs that just gives you
14:08SPEAKERthe raw original image, is there?
14:09SPEAKER- No, it's really stupid.
14:11SPEAKERI'll send you the file after this show.
14:12SPEAKER- Now that you mention it,
14:13SPEAKERI have never found a good way to do that.
14:15SPEAKER- Yeah, no, it's an ongoing problem in my life.
14:19SPEAKERWhen Chloe was brand new, like three months old,
14:21SPEAKERshe used to like, I used to have a clipped subwoofer
14:24SPEAKERunder my desk as a foot rest.
14:26SPEAKERAnd when that clip, 5.1 speakers that was on,
14:31SPEAKERit was nice and warm, so she liked to lay on top of it.
14:35SPEAKERAnd I did something that annoyed her one day.
14:38SPEAKERAnd when I left the room,
14:40SPEAKERshe was laying on top of the subwoofer.
14:41SPEAKERAnd when I came back, she had pulled the black,
14:45SPEAKERlike, veneer off of a whole side of the subwoofer.
14:49SPEAKERI have a picture of that too,
14:50SPEAKERif you want that for potential show art.
14:52SPEAKER- That's also pretty good.
14:53SPEAKER- She definitely looked like she had done,
14:55SPEAKERshe knew she had done some shit.
14:57SPEAKERLike, she knew she was in it,
14:58SPEAKERand she knew she had done something really bad,
15:00SPEAKERbut she was still sitting there with her ears out
15:02SPEAKERand was like, "Oh, I'm sorry, Ted."
15:03SPEAKER- Actually, actually, hmm.
15:07SPEAKERLook, Teddy might have some competition for the show art.
15:10SPEAKER- We can do a split.
15:10SPEAKER- That's pretty good.
15:12SPEAKER- Yeah.
15:12SPEAKER- Well, I mean, at least speakers also kind of look cool
15:15SPEAKERwithout the, without the--
15:17SPEAKER- It looked like, hmm, black particle board.
15:20SPEAKERIt's not, or sorry, just tan particle board.
15:23SPEAKERI had to get another.
15:23SPEAKERThe thing is, like, you can buy a sheet.
15:25SPEAKERSo I just pulled the rest of the side off,
15:27SPEAKERbought a sheet of that stuff and put it into it.
15:28SPEAKERI mean, it was fine.
15:29SPEAKER- Okay, I've never been a fan myself
15:31SPEAKERof the exposed speacher cone look,
15:33SPEAKERbut I know some people like that.
15:35SPEAKER- Oh, no, so it wasn't, she didn't kill the--
15:36SPEAKER- Oh, you're not talking about the foam part.
15:38SPEAKER- It wasn't like the mesh part.
15:39SPEAKERIt was like, it was literally like the veneer,
15:43SPEAKERlike that kind of black veneer
15:45SPEAKERthat they put on top of the particle board.
15:46SPEAKER- I see, I see.
15:48SPEAKERI was less--
15:49SPEAKER- Pretty perturbed.
15:50SPEAKER- That's less aesthetically acceptable.
15:53SPEAKER- Honestly, what I did for a long time
15:54SPEAKERbefore I found out you could buy that stuff
15:56SPEAKERwas just turn the speaker around
15:57SPEAKERso that that side faced the wall, and then it was fine.
16:00SPEAKERThe other thing Toby did recently
16:03SPEAKERis he took a shot at Gina's MacBook power cord,
16:06SPEAKERwhich I was like, oh, this isn't that big a deal.
16:08SPEAKERAnd then I looked at what the replacements cost.
16:11SPEAKERAnd they do the thing now where the USB-C side
16:15SPEAKERplugs into the power brick,
16:16SPEAKERand then you have the MagSafe side on the other end.
16:18SPEAKERAnd I was like, oh, it can't be that much,
16:19SPEAKER'cause probably the power brick's the expensive part, right?
16:21SPEAKERNo, it was really expensive.
16:24SPEAKER- Mm-hmm, I believe it.
16:25SPEAKER- I put it on Toby's tab.
16:27SPEAKER- I believe it.
16:28SPEAKERI believe that.
16:29SPEAKERI've got probably more guinea pig chewing incidents
16:34SPEAKERthan I can recount.
16:35SPEAKER- Oh yeah, they were.
16:36SPEAKERI mean, look, you can't blame them for that.
16:38SPEAKERThat's just what guinea pigs do.
16:39SPEAKER- That's fair.
16:40SPEAKERSome of them, anyway, yeah.
16:41SPEAKERWe let them roam the room,
16:45SPEAKER'cause they're shockingly conscientious
16:46SPEAKERabout not going to the bathroom where they shouldn't.
16:49SPEAKER- Yeah, I always thought that was cool
16:50SPEAKERwhen I came to your house and you just,
16:52SPEAKERlike, the guinea pig pen was open.
16:54SPEAKER- You'd be shocked that they also,
16:56SPEAKERall the ones we've had would also go out of their way
16:58SPEAKERnot to go on you unless they really couldn't help it.
17:01SPEAKER- Yeah.
17:02SPEAKER- Like that was just, they're weirdly,
17:04SPEAKERthey kind of, they have a place they like to go,
17:06SPEAKERand that's kind of that, but.
17:08SPEAKER- Rodents are pretty clean, generally.
17:09SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, more than you would think.
17:11SPEAKERAnyway, we don't need, I lost one expensive hard,
17:16SPEAKERor in fact, what turned out to be basically impossible
17:19SPEAKERto replace cable.
17:20SPEAKER- Oh no.
17:21SPEAKER- It was a nice mini HDMI cable.
17:23SPEAKERIt was nothing like, you could get other mini HDMI cables.
17:26SPEAKERIt's just this particular one was very fit to purpose.
17:29SPEAKERIt was 4K capable and was like very thin,
17:32SPEAKERand I was using it for an application where I needed,
17:35SPEAKERand it was right-angled.
17:36SPEAKERIt was like a combination of factors.
17:38SPEAKERIt was like finding all of these factors in one cable
17:40SPEAKERis like tough.
17:41SPEAKERIt was like 40 bucks.
17:42SPEAKER- Was it like coming out of the camera or something?
17:44SPEAKER- Yeah, I was using it for camera purposes,
17:46SPEAKERand that cable sure got destroyed, and I sure,
17:50SPEAKERand that company that made it sure didn't exist
17:52SPEAKERby the time it got destroyed, and I never got another one.
17:54SPEAKERIt's fine.
17:55SPEAKERI mean, I bought a cheaper one that still does the job,
17:57SPEAKERbut it's just like, ah, this cable did everything I needed,
17:59SPEAKERand now it's gone.
18:01SPEAKER- Honestly, I really wish that there was like a,
18:06SPEAKERfor right-angle cables especially,
18:08SPEAKERAmazon and even B&H are kind of bad,
18:11SPEAKER'cause it's really hard to tell,
18:13SPEAKERespecially in something like mini HDMI
18:14SPEAKERwhere you can't really tell from the angles
18:16SPEAKERthat they give you in the photos
18:17SPEAKERwhich way the right angle goes.
18:20SPEAKERLike the handedness is really important with that,
18:22SPEAKER'cause if you get the wrong one, it's completely backwards,
18:24SPEAKERand it just doesn't work in the place that you need it to go.
18:27SPEAKERAnyway, cables are weird.
18:29SPEAKER- Actually, one other quick one.
18:31SPEAKERThere was a period where I was having to sleep
18:33SPEAKERon an air mattress for a few days.
18:34SPEAKERIt was a long story, just like houseguests and stuff,
18:37SPEAKERbut it was in this room.
18:40SPEAKER- Oh, no.
18:41SPEAKER- With the guinea pigs.
18:43SPEAKER- Oh, no.
18:44SPEAKER- And at night, I was lying there trying to go to sleep,
18:45SPEAKERand I just half-dazed.
18:48SPEAKERIt was just like, something doesn't seem right.
18:50SPEAKER- Oh, no.
18:51SPEAKER- Like, why does this bed feel mushy?
18:53SPEAKER- Oh, no.
18:54SPEAKER- Why does it feel like I am sinking?
18:56SPEAKERWait a minute, why am I lying on the floor?
18:58SPEAKER- Oh, no.
18:59SPEAKER- And the same pig that destroyed that HDMI cable
19:03SPEAKERwho was affectionately known as a little shit around here.
19:07SPEAKER- Oh, boy.
19:08SPEAKER- Like, I've seen her do it before.
19:10SPEAKERShe would just be going, do-do-do-do-do-do,
19:12SPEAKERjust going about her business,
19:13SPEAKERand she would just walk over and nibble something
19:14SPEAKERfor half a second, and then just continue on her way.
19:17SPEAKER- Yeah, they were lightning fast.
19:18SPEAKER- Exactly what had happened.
19:19SPEAKERThere was one, like, pinprick-sized tiny hole
19:22SPEAKERin this very nice air mattress we had bought.
19:25SPEAKER- That sucks.
19:26SPEAKER- And it was, well, it introduced me to the concept
19:29SPEAKERof vinyl sealants, or like the kind of liquid vinyl repair.
19:34SPEAKER- Yeah.
19:34SPEAKER- 'Cause at first, I was like, oh my God,
19:36SPEAKERlike, this is a nice new air mattress
19:38SPEAKERthat we're now gonna have to junk.
19:40SPEAKERBut it was like 10 bucks or whatever for some kind of,
19:43SPEAKERI forget what brand, or I don't know anything about it.
19:47SPEAKERI'm sure you can Google it if you ever have a similar need,
19:49SPEAKERbut it was like, it worked beautifully.
19:51SPEAKERLike, I patched a little hole on it,
19:53SPEAKERand it has been fine ever since.
19:54SPEAKER- It's usually some sort of solvent
19:56SPEAKERthat just dissolves the material a little bit and melts it,
19:58SPEAKERand then it reforms when it dries.
20:01SPEAKER- I mean, for a gaping hole, it would not work so well,
20:03SPEAKERbut it was fine for this.
20:05SPEAKEROkay, there's a quick, maybe not so quick,
20:09SPEAKERDisney email from Nicholas in Charleston, South Carolina,
20:13SPEAKERfrom your Disney trip recently about projection mapping.
20:20SPEAKERThat's the thing where they're projecting animated faces
20:22SPEAKERonto physical animatronic characters now.
20:27SPEAKERFirst, the tech, there are two ghosts
20:28SPEAKERin the haunted mansion that use newer tech.
20:31SPEAKERThe attic bride, which has been changed several times
20:34SPEAKERand was recently updated again in Florida.
20:36SPEAKERThe one in Disneyland uses more basic projection mapping.
20:39SPEAKERThe other ghost is the hatbox ghost,
20:42SPEAKERwhich has a really interesting story.
20:44SPEAKERThat ghost was originally made for the attraction
20:46SPEAKERwhen it first opened in the 1960s.
20:48SPEAKERThey never could get the effect to work they wanted it to,
20:50SPEAKERand there is some debate if the original version
20:52SPEAKERwas installed in the ride at all.
20:54SPEAKERThe new version using modern digital trickery
20:57SPEAKERfinally showed up in 2015.
20:59SPEAKERThere actually is a rudimentary version of projection mapping
21:02SPEAKERif you want to call it that with the singing busts.
21:05SPEAKERIt may have been updated,
21:06SPEAKERbut the original busts in the graveyard finale
21:08SPEAKERwere simply film projected onto blank busts.
21:12SPEAKERThat must be quite old, I guess.
21:16SPEAKERIf you want to dig in more to pirates or haunted mansion,
21:19SPEAKERthere are two great books by Fox Nolte.
21:22SPEAKERBoundless- - That's a good name.
21:23SPEAKER- Yes, that is pretty good.
21:24SPEAKERFox with two Xs also.
21:27SPEAKERGod, I haven't known a lot of foxes.
21:29SPEAKERI've been thinking about the X-Files a little bit recently
21:32SPEAKERfor various reasons and Fox Mulder is-
21:37SPEAKER- Fox Mulder is a handle, but-
21:39SPEAKER- Underappreciated as a character name.
21:41SPEAKER- You had read Fox, but that's the last name.
21:43SPEAKERIt's a little different.
21:44SPEAKERIt's also a stage name, clearly.
21:45SPEAKER- I mean Fox as a first name, as a given name.
21:48SPEAKERAnyway. - It's a good name.
21:49SPEAKER- The first book is Boundless Realm,
21:51SPEAKERDeep Explorations Inside Disney's Haunted Mansion.
21:55SPEAKERThe other book is Scoundrels, Villains and Knaves,
21:58SPEAKERDisneyland, Pirates of the Caribbean and Popular Culture.
22:02SPEAKERShe also has a video about the new pirate
22:03SPEAKERthat I think explains a lot
22:04SPEAKERabout why people are frustrated with it.
22:07SPEAKERVideo is called Disney Has Lost the Plot.
22:10SPEAKERAlso as a long time glasses wearer,
22:13SPEAKERI have never had to take off my glasses on Space Mountain.
22:15SPEAKERA good glasses strap has always been good for me
22:18SPEAKERfrom small coasters to big flip you upside down ones.
22:21SPEAKER- I need to get a glasses strap.
22:23SPEAKER- Yeah.
22:24SPEAKER- I haven't had one since I was like a teenager.
22:26SPEAKERBut so this was super interesting.
22:28SPEAKERWhen we rode the Haunted Mansion,
22:29SPEAKERthis is the first time that my daughter
22:31SPEAKERhad been on the Haunted Mansion
22:32SPEAKERthat wasn't decorated for Halloween or Christmas
22:34SPEAKERor something.
22:35SPEAKERAnd of course we got down there
22:37SPEAKERand it was jammed up when we got to the downstairs area.
22:39SPEAKERSo it was really, really crowded down there.
22:42SPEAKERBut the ride stopped
22:46SPEAKERand we were directly in front of the Hat Box Ghost,
22:48SPEAKERwhich I'd never, which is like the Hat Box Ghost,
22:50SPEAKERyou usually ride by it's like a five, 10 second pass by.
22:53SPEAKERAnd it's a guy holding a box.
22:56SPEAKERIt's a creepy ghost holding a box
22:58SPEAKERand his head basically zoops from his head into the Hat Box.
23:02SPEAKERAnd you can see into the Hat Box
23:04SPEAKERand then it zoops back to his head.
23:06SPEAKERAnd it kind of, there's a little whooshing effect.
23:08SPEAKERAnd I got to watch it for a good five minutes,
23:09SPEAKERwhich I've never, like has never happened before.
23:12SPEAKERAnd it is, I was literally sitting looking at it.
23:15SPEAKERI was like, I have no idea how they could have done this
23:17SPEAKERbefore they had digital projectors
23:19SPEAKER'cause it seems impossible.
23:20SPEAKERAnd now knowing that it was installed the right way in 2015
23:23SPEAKERmakes sense.
23:25SPEAKERMy understanding is that all of the film projection stuff
23:28SPEAKERhas been replaced with digital projection
23:30SPEAKERover the last 20 years.
23:31SPEAKERBut other, but they captured the original footage
23:35SPEAKERor whatever, and reuse it there.
23:38SPEAKERBut this is super cool email.
23:39SPEAKERI'm totally gonna check out that book
23:40SPEAKERabout the Haunted Mansion, that sounds rad.
23:42SPEAKER- Yeah, I didn't know they ever used film projection
23:43SPEAKERfor that stuff, that's cool.
23:45SPEAKER- Yeah, they used the, a lot of the ghosts
23:47SPEAKERin the Haunted Mansion were film projection in the old days
23:49SPEAKER'cause they like project them from below on mirrors
23:52SPEAKERor above onto mirrors and stuff like that.
23:53SPEAKERAnd then you see them through the,
23:55SPEAKERlike the way the Haunted Mansion works is,
23:58SPEAKERit's absolutely my favorite, it's really cool.
24:00SPEAKER- A lot of technology in Disney attractions.
24:03SPEAKER- It is, yeah. - It seems.
24:06SPEAKER- Reggie from Calgary writes in
24:07SPEAKERabout technology in cartridges.
24:10SPEAKER- I love this email.
24:11SPEAKER- I was thinking the other day and I was wondering,
24:14SPEAKERdoes the SuperFX chip count as a video card
24:16SPEAKERthat ships on a cartridge?
24:18SPEAKERWhat a time to be alive.
24:21SPEAKERHang on, I meant to look this up before we did this.
24:24SPEAKERI think isn't the SuperFX like a generalized,
24:29SPEAKERI don't wanna nitpick too much here.
24:30SPEAKERI think, I don't think it's like a 3D chip specifically.
24:34SPEAKERI think it is just another processor.
24:37SPEAKER- I mean, it is a-
24:38SPEAKER- I'm trying to find out what it actually is,
24:40SPEAKERlike who made it and what it is.
24:41SPEAKER- It's an Argonaut design, you put it,
24:44SPEAKER- Oh, it is an Nintendo design.
24:45SPEAKEROkay, I must be thinking about something else.
24:48SPEAKERSuper Nintendo cartridge has had a bunch
24:50SPEAKERof different co-processor type chips that shipped.
24:52SPEAKERIn fact, there's like a little table on Wikipedia
24:54SPEAKERyou can look up.
24:55SPEAKERI think in one of those cases,
24:57SPEAKERone of those chips was actually just a second CPU.
25:00SPEAKERLike it was just another iteration of the same,
25:02SPEAKERI think it's a Ricoh CPU in the SNES.
25:05SPEAKERLike they just slapped a second CPU on cartridges.
25:08SPEAKERBut in this case, yeah, you're right.
25:09SPEAKERI think it is an actual Nintendo in-house design
25:13SPEAKERfor the SuperFX.
25:14SPEAKER- So it's, look, there are a lot of different chips
25:19SPEAKERthat went into SNES cartridges.
25:21SPEAKERI think it's a topic that could be ranked.
25:23SPEAKER- Oh boy, oh boy, we might need to get Steve Len on
25:26SPEAKERor something like that for that.
25:28SPEAKER- I'm gonna put that out there, that's all I'm gonna say.
25:31SPEAKERSo I had a really fascinating conversation
25:32SPEAKERwith one of the Argonaut guys
25:34SPEAKERat a GDC party one year about this.
25:37SPEAKER- Wait, really?
25:38SPEAKER- Yeah, it was fantastic.
25:40SPEAKER- Who was it?
25:40SPEAKERIt wasn't Dylan Cuthbert.
25:43SPEAKER- It was, what's his name?
25:44SPEAKER- It wasn't Dylan Cuthbert.
25:45SPEAKER- It was Dylan.
25:46SPEAKER- It was, okay.
25:49SPEAKER- And he talked about like they'd originally made it
25:52SPEAKERfor an Atari console or something like that
25:54SPEAKERand then switched over.
25:56SPEAKERThen they came in to pitch it as an NES cartridge
25:59SPEAKERand Nintendo was like, no, here's what we want you to do
26:01SPEAKERwith this thing.
26:03SPEAKERAnd that's when they started working
26:04SPEAKERwith Nintendo basically.
26:05SPEAKERAnd then it became in-house weird tech technology studio
26:09SPEAKERfor Nintendo for a while after this.
26:10SPEAKER- They were a bunch of wizards for sure.
26:12SPEAKERThere are actually more of these than I remembered
26:14SPEAKERnow that I'm scrolling through this.
26:15SPEAKER- There's a ton of them.
26:17SPEAKERThere's like audio processing.
26:18SPEAKERThere's the ones that do voice and better music
26:21SPEAKERand all that stuff.
26:21SPEAKERIt's a ton.
26:25SPEAKER- In my mind, it was like half a dozen.
26:26SPEAKERI think it's more like two dozen or something.
26:28SPEAKERAnyway, I'll read the rest of this email.
26:31SPEAKERIf you were to imagine that the Super NES
26:33SPEAKERwas 20 years late and came out in 2014,
26:35SPEAKERthe Xbox One and PS4 era,
26:37SPEAKERand that all games were cartridges
26:39SPEAKERand that the cartridges plugged into something
26:41SPEAKERlike PCI express,
26:42SPEAKERwhat is the technology you'd like to see in the games?
26:45SPEAKERThere were no caveats.
26:46SPEAKERMaybe it would have power constraints,
26:49SPEAKERbut imagine if say the cartridge for Cyberpunk
26:52SPEAKERhad built-in GDDR7 or came with tensor cores
26:55SPEAKERor ray tracing cores.
26:57SPEAKERWhat do you think would be the coolest thing
26:59SPEAKERgiven no resource or price constraints?
27:03SPEAKER- I really wonder, like I wonder what you could do.
27:06SPEAKERI feel like in the modern era,
27:08SPEAKERI don't know that this would work as well
27:09SPEAKERbecause this stuff is so architected.
27:11SPEAKERAnd back then it was just, hey,
27:13SPEAKERhere's some registers and some stuff that can do math
27:15SPEAKERand whatever you can do with the math works.
27:18SPEAKER- Yeah, and also the industry.
27:19SPEAKERI mean, I hope this isn't a wet blanket answer,
27:21SPEAKERbut the industry very much moved toward programmable,
27:24SPEAKERflexible pipelines and not fixed function stuff.
27:28SPEAKER- Was definitely easier.
27:29SPEAKER- So it's easier for me to answer this question
27:32SPEAKERin the context of the day,
27:33SPEAKERback when they were still making chips
27:35SPEAKERto do specific things.
27:36SPEAKERLike the thing that comes to mind is the PhysX card.
27:39SPEAKER- Yeah.
27:39SPEAKER- Like the PhysX card was a short-lived example
27:41SPEAKERof like, here's a specific chip we made to do one thing,
27:45SPEAKERwhich is very advanced physics.
27:47SPEAKERSo like probably something like that
27:49SPEAKERis the first thing that comes to mind.
27:51SPEAKER- I mean, the thing is nobody does bespoke anymore.
27:55SPEAKERI guess like the cost of doing a bespoke chip
27:58SPEAKERat this point is so high.
28:00SPEAKERLike if you put GDDR7 on a cyberpunk card,
28:06SPEAKERwell, A, it would cost $1,000 now,
28:09SPEAKERbut B, I don't know that you would get anything,
28:12SPEAKERlike the way architectures work now,
28:14SPEAKERyou wouldn't get anything for it, I guess, which sucks.
28:17SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.
28:18SPEAKER- I don't know, when did they stop putting
28:19SPEAKERlike the connector plates?
28:22SPEAKERWas the GameCube the last in the PS2 era,
28:24SPEAKERthe kind of last time we had like an external bus connector
28:27SPEAKERfor weird other hardware on consoles?
28:29SPEAKER- Oh, just like bespoke feature ports.
28:32SPEAKER- Yeah.
28:33SPEAKER- Yeah, gosh, I'm trying to think.
28:35SPEAKER- 'Cause you can put that GBA adapter on the GameCube.
28:38SPEAKER- The Game Boy player, yeah, the GameCube,
28:40SPEAKERI'm actually working on,
28:42SPEAKERI've got a project lined up with the GameCube.
28:44SPEAKERRight now, I'm looking at those things.
28:45SPEAKERThe GameCube has like three different ports
28:47SPEAKERon the bottom of it for different things.
28:49SPEAKER- Really, I didn't know that.
28:50SPEAKER- Yeah, and I don't remember if PS2 had much,
28:55SPEAKERI mean, it had the hard drive connector.
28:57SPEAKER- That's it, that's what it was, yeah.
28:58SPEAKER- And Sony had their multi-out, their AV multi-out for years.
29:02SPEAKERThey didn't go as hard as Nintendo
29:03SPEAKERon the feature connectors, though.
29:05SPEAKER- Yes, well, Sega also did the network port
29:07SPEAKERthat you could search for a modem.
29:08SPEAKERThat was more like lower bandwidth, I think.
29:11SPEAKER- Yeah, yes.
29:12SPEAKEROld video game console technology is cool.
29:15SPEAKER- Stuff was weird.
29:17SPEAKERHonestly, the weirdest of all of them
29:18SPEAKERwas like the Sega 32X, I think,
29:20SPEAKERwhere you just jam something in the cartridge
29:22SPEAKERand then they blended the video in the thing,
29:26SPEAKERwhich is fricking wild.
29:28SPEAKERI had no idea how that worked at the time, and it's crazy.
29:30SPEAKER- The way the 32X integrates with the Genesis
29:33SPEAKERat a developmental programming level is insane.
29:36SPEAKER- While we're talking about this era of games,
29:38SPEAKERcan I make a public apology?
29:41SPEAKER- Sure.
29:41SPEAKER- I dug up my Vice City review from 2003
29:44SPEAKERin Maximum PC yesterday.
29:46SPEAKER- All right.
29:48SPEAKER- In the lead up to that GTA thing,
29:49SPEAKER'cause I wondered if maybe Rockstar has looked
29:52SPEAKERat all the excitement around GTA role-playing
29:55SPEAKERand took a negative signal from that
29:58SPEAKERand built an even more tedious tedium simulator.
30:02SPEAKERAnd at the end of my GTA Vice City review in Maximum PC,
30:06SPEAKERwhich, just to be clear, PC-focused magazine
30:09SPEAKERtalking about a port in 2003,
30:13SPEAKERwhich was early in the PS2 timeframe,
30:17SPEAKERthe review, which I don't think I would have written this,
30:19SPEAKERbut maybe someone did, the review ended with...
30:23SPEAKERIt was a pretty negative review of Vice City,
30:25SPEAKERwhich was a hot take, apparently.
30:29SPEAKERThe review ends with, "The game mechanics are there,
30:31SPEAKER"the concept is there, and the setting is near perfect,
30:33SPEAKER"but the fun is with Luca Brasi sleeping with the fishes.
30:37SPEAKER"The fact that PS2 pundits routinely tout GTA in Vice City
30:40SPEAKER"as the greatest games of all time reinforces our belief
30:43SPEAKER"that there just aren't any good games available on the PS2."
30:47SPEAKER- Ow.
30:47SPEAKER- That is intense.
30:49SPEAKER- So I didn't like JRPGs.
30:51SPEAKER- That's, I am.
30:53SPEAKER- And 2003, like the games that ended up
30:58SPEAKERbeing the PS2 games for me,
30:59SPEAKERso "Chadows of the Colossus," "Katamari," "Metal Gear,"
31:05SPEAKERnone of those were available at the time.
31:06SPEAKER- I can respect it, I can...
31:09SPEAKER- I'm sorry, I was wrong.
31:11SPEAKERI still think GTA Vice City is not a great game.
31:14SPEAKER- That's, all right, that's an opinion to have.
31:16SPEAKERI mean, look, the GTA has had its issues
31:20SPEAKERwith outdated controls and shooting mechanics
31:22SPEAKERand stuff over the years.
31:23SPEAKER- Lack of saves.
31:25SPEAKER- I can respect it.
31:26SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway.
31:27SPEAKER- All right, Nate from Fort Collins, Colorado.
31:31SPEAKER"I built a PC in January of 2025,
31:34SPEAKER"and to try to stick to a budget,
31:35SPEAKER"I ended up with a 7800 X3D instead of a 9800.
31:40SPEAKER"Ended up blowing the budget anyway,
31:42SPEAKER"getting a 5080 and feel like maybe,
31:44SPEAKER"that's a GTX or RTX 5080, Nvidia card, to be clear.
31:50SPEAKER"Ended up blowing the budget anyway, getting a 5080
31:52SPEAKER"and feel like maybe I made a mistake.
31:54SPEAKER"Did I?
31:55SPEAKER"Should I spring for a 9800 X3D,
31:57SPEAKER"or would I not really notice much improvement?
32:00SPEAKER"A game on a 1440p monitor or a 4K TV,
32:03SPEAKER"depending on the game."
32:05SPEAKER- So it's interesting, like the question is,
32:08SPEAKERis my 7800 X3D bottlenecking this big GPU?
32:12SPEAKER- Probably not. - The answer is probably
32:13SPEAKERa little bit, but less than you'd think.
32:15SPEAKER- Yeah, but also, especially at 4K, less at 1440,
32:18SPEAKERbut even there, 7800 X3D is not exactly a bad chip.
32:24SPEAKERThat's no slouch.
32:25SPEAKER- Yeah, the problem with the 7800 X3D
32:26SPEAKERis that the cache is on the wrong side of the chip,
32:29SPEAKERso it's a little harder to cool than on the 9800 X3D.
32:32SPEAKER- Right.
32:33SPEAKER- But it's entirely, it's a very functional chip,
32:37SPEAKEReven today.
32:39SPEAKERJeff over at Kraft Computing just posted a video yesterday
32:42SPEAKERthat I thought was really good,
32:43SPEAKERwhere he basically took an old X99 board,
32:47SPEAKERso like a Intel 9900, I think,
32:51SPEAKERand saw where the bottleneck was
32:55SPEAKERby testing it with a bunch of different GPUs.
32:57SPEAKERIt's definitely worth watching, you're fine.
32:59SPEAKERLike, the nice thing about AM5 and AMD
33:02SPEAKERkeeping sockets for a long time is that
33:05SPEAKERwhen the 10800 X3D, or whatever the next version
33:10SPEAKERof the X3D chip in the next architecture hits is,
33:13SPEAKERyou'll probably be able to upgrade to that.
33:15SPEAKERLike, the prices on the 9800 will come down,
33:17SPEAKERyou'll be able to put whatever CPU you want in the socket.
33:19SPEAKERSo like, at some point in the future,
33:21SPEAKERif it starts feeling slow, yeah, put a new CPU in.
33:23SPEAKERRight now, you're fine.
33:24SPEAKER- Yeah, they announced AM5 is getting
33:28SPEAKERone more generation of chip, didn't they?
33:30SPEAKER- They said it was gonna go through 2027, I think.
33:32SPEAKER- Okay, yeah, that surely they will launch
33:35SPEAKERone more generation by then?
33:36SPEAKER- I mean--
33:38SPEAKER- Maybe.
33:38SPEAKER- Things, yeah, they have products designed, I'm sure,
33:42SPEAKERwhether they launch that, like, who knows?
33:44SPEAKER- Whether they decide to actually,
33:46SPEAKERthis is like on top of the unprecedentedness
33:49SPEAKERof everything else going on right now.
33:51SPEAKERAnother one is this idea that all these companies
33:53SPEAKERfrom CPU makers to like Sony and the PlayStation
33:56SPEAKERare all sitting on their product roadmap
33:58SPEAKERand maybe not going to launch products
34:00SPEAKERthat are basically otherwise gonna be ready to go.
34:03SPEAKER- Absolutely wild.
34:05SPEAKER- Like, Sony is still wringing its hands
34:07SPEAKERabout when they're gonna launch the PlayStation 6.
34:09SPEAKERLike, it just, the idea that all these things
34:10SPEAKERcould just come out years later than intended
34:12SPEAKERbecause of all this mess is just--
34:15SPEAKER- Hey, let's spend a couple billion dollars
34:16SPEAKERdeveloping a product and then just sit on it for a while.
34:18SPEAKER- Right, right, it's weird.
34:20SPEAKER- So yeah, I wouldn't worry about that too much,
34:22SPEAKERespecially right now.
34:24SPEAKERLike, watch that Kraft Computing video.
34:27SPEAKERHe's talking about CPUs from like 2017, so you're fine.
34:30SPEAKER- Yeah, yes, yes, you were told that that machine,
34:33SPEAKERthat machine probably will get you to the end of the decade.
34:35SPEAKERWell, I mean, I guess that's three and a half years away,
34:39SPEAKERbut that's, I bet you could probably make it fine
34:41SPEAKERon that machine until the end of the decade.
34:43SPEAKER- Here's the thing, you're definitely gonna be fine
34:45SPEAKERuntil next consoles, until games
34:47SPEAKERthat are not cross-console generation start shipping.
34:50SPEAKER- Yeah. - Right?
34:51SPEAKERThat's gonna be your gate probably.
34:53SPEAKER- Yes, okay.
34:56SPEAKERWill from Pacifica writes in.
34:58SPEAKER- Wow, that's a weird coincidence.
34:59SPEAKER- Do you guys know how to keep two calendars in sync easily?
35:02SPEAKERI'm an independent contractor and I need to keep calendars
35:04SPEAKERthat are hosted on separate clients.
35:09SPEAKER- Did you help me with the wording?
35:10SPEAKER- Separate clients, internal Google
35:11SPEAKERor Microsoft services accounts.
35:14SPEAKER- I wasn't quite sure where the emphasis was in that line.
35:17SPEAKERHosted on separate clients, internal Google
35:19SPEAKERor Microsoft accounts synced up with my actual work calendar
35:22SPEAKERand I'm finding it surprisingly difficult to do that.
35:25SPEAKERFor what it's worth, I use fast mail for email
35:27SPEAKERand calendaring for my business and most of my clients
35:30SPEAKERare using either Google or Microsoft for their groupware.
35:33SPEAKER- Yeah, it's a real problem.
35:35SPEAKERIt's funny, I face that same problem every single day.
35:37SPEAKER- Yeah, weird, you have a solution.
35:39SPEAKER- Often people will create,
35:41SPEAKERwhen I'm doing long-term contracting for them,
35:43SPEAKERthey'll create an internal account for me
35:45SPEAKERso that they have a calendar
35:46SPEAKERthat they can then schedule me against.
35:49SPEAKER- Sure.
35:50SPEAKER- But I need to keep all of my different clients' calendars
35:54SPEAKERavailable so that when client A looks at my calendar,
35:57SPEAKERthey see the live calendar
35:58SPEAKERand when client B looks at my calendar,
35:59SPEAKERthey see the live calendar.
36:01SPEAKERI haven't found a tool that does this.
36:03SPEAKERSo if anybody has ideas, I would really welcome that.
36:05SPEAKERIt seems like with ICS and all that stuff,
36:07SPEAKERit should be really easy.
36:08SPEAKERIt is absolutely not.
36:10SPEAKER- Is CalDAV an option here?
36:12SPEAKER- No, 'cause CalDAV is for single imports,
36:15SPEAKERnot for ongoing updates is the problem.
36:17SPEAKER- It doesn't continue syncing.
36:18SPEAKER- Yeah, so ICS does this,
36:22SPEAKERwhich is the Apple iCal sharing format.
36:25SPEAKER- Oh, I didn't know that was an Apple format.
36:27SPEAKER- Yeah, but the problem is that there's no,
36:30SPEAKERI mean, it started as an Apple format.
36:31SPEAKERI don't think it is anymore.
36:32SPEAKERThe problem is that most, like Google wants,
36:36SPEAKERif you give Google an iCal,
36:37SPEAKERit sets up a separate calendar for you in Google Calendar
36:40SPEAKERthat is that calendar.
36:42SPEAKERSo you can export your free/busy from one thing
36:44SPEAKERand put it in the other, but then it doesn't give you,
36:50SPEAKERI can't get Google to show that imported calendar
36:52SPEAKERas busy time for me,
36:54SPEAKEReven if it's marked busy on the calendar.
36:57SPEAKERSo anyway, I would love advice if anybody has advice.
37:01SPEAKERYou can send it into the Techbot at content.down
37:05SPEAKERor just post it in the comments in the Discord
37:08SPEAKERif you're in the Discord, it would be hugely helpful.
37:11SPEAKERI'm willing to spend money on this,
37:13SPEAKERbut I'd love a self-hosted option, ideally.
37:17SPEAKERAnd the thing I really want is people to take
37:20SPEAKERthe free/busy info that's public
37:22SPEAKERfrom any of these calendars and block them against my,
37:27SPEAKERdump them into the other calendars.
37:29SPEAKER- Sure, that makes sense.
37:31SPEAKERI bet somebody will have an answer.
37:33SPEAKER- I hope so.
37:34SPEAKER- It sucks, I do a lot of copy and pasting right now.
37:36SPEAKER- Yeah, I can imagine that is not,
37:38SPEAKERthat's the bad kind of work that enables other work.
37:42SPEAKER- It sucks.
37:43SPEAKER- Like sometimes, like with the to-do list stuff last week,
37:45SPEAKERlike that is valuable work to invest in,
37:47SPEAKERmaking your other work easier,
37:49SPEAKERbut what you're talking about is just,
37:51SPEAKERit's not just that it's busy work,
37:54SPEAKERit feels like bailing water.
37:56SPEAKER- Well, and it's also-
37:57SPEAKER- It feels like you're never gonna be able
37:58SPEAKERto keep up with it.
37:59SPEAKERAt some point, you're gonna get too busy
38:01SPEAKERto keep up with that busy work,
38:03SPEAKERand then things are gonna fall out of sync.
38:05SPEAKER- And also when I mess up and forget to do one,
38:07SPEAKERthen it ends up with a bunch more back and forth
38:09SPEAKER'cause somebody who like looks at my calendar
38:10SPEAKERusually just books time is then like,
38:13SPEAKERI have to call, I have to text them and be like,
38:15SPEAKERhey, I gotta do this, can we move this?
38:17SPEAKERI've got a conflict here, which sucks.
38:20SPEAKER- All right, we do some Discord questions.
38:23SPEAKER- Yeah, Discords.
38:24SPEAKER- Lovic, is it multimeter or multimeter?
38:28SPEAKER- Oh no, I say it both ways.
38:31SPEAKER- I also say it both ways.
38:33SPEAKERBut I can tell you which one I prefer, which is multimeter.
38:36SPEAKER- I like multimeter too.
38:37SPEAKERI think this might be a where we grew up thing
38:40SPEAKER'cause I like a soft vowel in that kind of context.
38:44SPEAKER- This could be completely off base.
38:46SPEAKERSomehow I have gotten the impression
38:48SPEAKERthat multimeter is the common British pronunciation
38:50SPEAKERand multimeter is common in the US,
38:52SPEAKERbut I don't know if that's actually true.
38:54SPEAKER- Look, all I'm saying is I, yeah,
38:58SPEAKERI like a soft vowel in the middle of a big long word.
39:01SPEAKERThat's all I'm gonna say.
39:02SPEAKER- Sure.
39:03SPEAKERLike a soft yolk.
39:05SPEAKER- I love a soft yolk.
39:05SPEAKER- You like your multimeter medium.
39:08SPEAKER- Look, as eggs are one of the few things
39:10SPEAKERthat we can still eat safely in the United States,
39:13SPEAKERI've eaten a lot of soft yolks lately.
39:15SPEAKER- Yeah, fair.
39:16SPEAKER- Don't tell me if they're not safe, please.
39:19SPEAKER- Let me see here.
39:21SPEAKERActually, because multimeters are involved,
39:26SPEAKERI'm gonna read this other thing
39:27SPEAKERthat is kind of related to that
39:29SPEAKER'cause I've got a project swirling in my brain
39:33SPEAKERthat I've been kind of interested in.
39:35SPEAKERMOSFET 555 writes in.
39:38SPEAKERI also have to read this just to give credit where due
39:40SPEAKERbecause this sent me on a deep rabbit hole
39:43SPEAKERand I've got to credit the person
39:45SPEAKERwho brought it to my attention.
39:47SPEAKERI was talking about on, was it?
39:50SPEAKERDid I talk about my arcade board on this podcast?
39:52SPEAKER- Talked about it on the Nextlander podcast.
39:54SPEAKER- That was entirely on Nextlander.
39:56SPEAKER- One of the other good things about having a dog
39:58SPEAKERand going on dog walks is my podcast listening time
40:00SPEAKERhas expanded dramatically.
40:01SPEAKER- A lot more podcast time, I believe that.
40:03SPEAKEROkay, so yes, I have a Mortal Kombat 2 arcade board
40:06SPEAKERthat I had done talking about over there.
40:08SPEAKERMOSFET 555 wrote in here.
40:10SPEAKERHeard you talking about your MK2 arcade board.
40:12SPEAKERI also have that board.
40:14SPEAKERThese are a little spendy,
40:15SPEAKERbut I picked up this standoff case for it,
40:17SPEAKERwhich holds the main board and its daughter boards.
40:20SPEAKERIt can be played from within this case.
40:22SPEAKERI hung mine on the wall as decoration.
40:24SPEAKERI can send some photos if you want.
40:26SPEAKERIt's made from plexiglass with the main logo cut out
40:28SPEAKERout of a stainless steel plate.
40:31SPEAKERIt looks to be laser or water jet cuts.
40:34SPEAKERNo affiliation.
40:35SPEAKERI just think these are cool.
40:36SPEAKERI also have the ultimate MK3 one.
40:38SPEAKER- Man, that is really cool.
40:40SPEAKER- And yeah, are you looking at the picture?
40:41SPEAKERIt's Scanline City is the business that's making these.
40:46SPEAKERSo this sent me on a huge rabbit hole
40:48SPEAKER'cause I didn't even consider
40:50SPEAKERthat there were people out there making PCB cases
40:53SPEAKERfor arcade boards,
40:54SPEAKERlet alone ones with like nice laser cut logos
40:56SPEAKERon them and stuff.
40:59SPEAKERI'm not sure.
41:00SPEAKERAt first I was gonna get this one,
41:01SPEAKEReven though it is a bit expensive,
41:02SPEAKERbut then I started looking at some designs
41:04SPEAKERthat are pure laser cut acrylic.
41:07SPEAKER- I can do that for you.
41:08SPEAKERHow big is the board?
41:09SPEAKER- So it's, oh gosh,
41:12SPEAKERI'm just gonna ballpark it like a nine by 12,
41:15SPEAKERmaybe or something.
41:16SPEAKERThe bigger issue here,
41:17SPEAKERand we don't need to get into it
41:18SPEAKER'cause I also spent half of this week's explain
41:20SPEAKERto Ramblecast rambling about the subject.
41:23SPEAKERThe MK2 board has two daughter boards
41:25SPEAKERthat are both that like don't mount cleanly to the board
41:28SPEAKER'cause they were never designed to be stacked like that.
41:30SPEAKER- Oh, 'cause they were like screwed
41:31SPEAKERto the side of the case.
41:32SPEAKER- Yes, they were just screwed into the side of the cabinet.
41:34SPEAKERSo stacking them cleanly is gonna be a challenge.
41:38SPEAKERAlso I'm being very uptight and nitpicky
41:41SPEAKERand trying to figure out a way to stack them
41:43SPEAKERand not like, if you look at this case
41:44SPEAKERand the acrylic designs I've seen,
41:47SPEAKERthey all hang the boards that don't stack cleanly
41:49SPEAKERon the other boards from the top with extra screw holes.
41:52SPEAKER- Like from the front facing.
41:54SPEAKERSo like for people who are listening to the audio,
41:56SPEAKERthis is like two pieces of acrylic
41:57SPEAKERwith some like metal standoffs in between
41:59SPEAKERthat are like three inches long it looks like.
42:01SPEAKERAnd so they have the big board on the back
42:02SPEAKERand the small boards on the front,
42:04SPEAKERon the inside of the front.
42:05SPEAKER- Ironically, it is a very oversized version
42:08SPEAKERof what my mister looks like,
42:09SPEAKERwhat the original mister project
42:11SPEAKERand a lot of other hobbyists electronics do this as well.
42:13SPEAKERIt's just like a circuit board or two.
42:15SPEAKER- Stacked.
42:16SPEAKER- Stacked on each other with standoffs
42:18SPEAKERwith like acrylic kind of safety plates on top and bottom
42:20SPEAKERjust to try to protect the components
42:24SPEAKERon the board a little bit.
42:25SPEAKERAnd it basically just looks like an oversized version
42:26SPEAKERof that.
42:27SPEAKERBut anyway, to achieve my insane dreams,
42:31SPEAKERI'm gonna have to design my own board or my own case,
42:35SPEAKERwhich maybe I need to talk to you about actually.
42:36SPEAKER'Cause I downloaded some EPS files of these other,
42:40SPEAKERthere's a repo where people have been doing designs
42:42SPEAKERfor these cases themselves.
42:46SPEAKERAnd there's a bunch of examples on there.
42:48SPEAKERThey just happened to not do one for MK2.
42:50SPEAKERSo I'm gonna have to like adapt one of those.
42:52SPEAKERBut anyway, I downloaded like their UMK3 design,
42:55SPEAKERbut Inkscape doesn't open EPS.
42:57SPEAKERSo I'm gonna have to figure out like,
42:59SPEAKERI don't know what the best or is like free CAD better
43:01SPEAKERfor this kind of thing.
43:03SPEAKER- EPS are encapsulated postscript files.
43:05SPEAKERThey're just printer files.
43:07SPEAKER- Okay, that's just what this GitHub project,
43:10SPEAKERwhat the people do in these designs happen to use.
43:12SPEAKERI'm sure EPS can be converted to other formats
43:14SPEAKERif more appropriate.
43:16SPEAKERI've just, I've never done any kind of like 3D model design
43:20SPEAKERwork for fabrication like this before.
43:23SPEAKER- Well, I was gonna say the good thing about this
43:24SPEAKERis it's not actually 3D, this is just 2D.
43:26SPEAKER- Oh yeah, in this case, it's just a flat sheet basically.
43:29SPEAKERSo that's not a huge deal.
43:30SPEAKER- So really the only thing you have to do
43:32SPEAKERis figure out where the holes are.
43:33SPEAKERAnd you can do that by taking a picture with your phone
43:35SPEAKERfrom like four feet away, straight on.
43:37SPEAKER- Oh, so making, we should do a whole episode about this
43:40SPEAKERif I actually end up doing this.
43:41SPEAKER'Cause I have, see, I assumed I would need like calipers
43:45SPEAKERand need to do like millimeter precise measurements
43:47SPEAKERto make sure all the holes are spaced right
43:49SPEAKERand stuff like that.
43:50SPEAKER- So this is the thing we talked about and tested a lot.
43:52SPEAKERPrecision is important, but you wanna make sure
43:54SPEAKERthe holes are spaced right.
43:55SPEAKERAnd the way, there's a bunch of ways you can do that.
43:57SPEAKEROne is you can take a piece of paper and trace,
44:00SPEAKERlike do a charcoal rubbing of the back of the board
44:04SPEAKERor something like that.
44:05SPEAKERSo you know where the holes are.
44:06SPEAKER- Interesting.
44:07SPEAKER- You can also, like I said, you can take a picture,
44:09SPEAKERyou can put, if you have a flatbed scanner,
44:10SPEAKERyou can put it on a flatbed scanner.
44:11SPEAKERThat's the best way to do it.
44:12SPEAKERAnd then you just drop that into like SketchUp
44:16SPEAKERor whatever your, your Fusion 360 or whatever you're using.
44:19SPEAKERAnd trace the outlines of the board and that.
44:25SPEAKERThe big problem I have with these open side
44:27SPEAKERmystery style designs for something this big
44:29SPEAKERis that it's gonna get hella dusty here.
44:31SPEAKER- It will, yeah.
44:32SPEAKERBut the jamming connector needs to be exposed
44:34SPEAKERif you're actually gonna play it, because--
44:36SPEAKER- That's true.
44:37SPEAKER- That brings me to the other part of this, which is I--
44:40SPEAKER- You wanna hook it up?
44:41SPEAKER- I kinda want a super gun now.
44:44SPEAKER- Okay.
44:44SPEAKER- And in fact, I've kind of sold myself
44:46SPEAKERon getting good enough at soldering to make my own super gun.
44:50SPEAKER- Hell yeah.
44:51SPEAKERI love this.
44:52SPEAKER- This is a long-term thing.
44:53SPEAKERBut there is, a super gun is the thing
44:55SPEAKERthat'll make it take a jammer connector
44:57SPEAKERand basically convert it to work on a TV.
45:00SPEAKER- Look, a jammer connector, you could make a hole
45:02SPEAKERfor a jammer connector in the side of this thing.
45:04SPEAKERYou could make this enclosed.
45:05SPEAKER- I don't mind just like, I've got a, you know--
45:07SPEAKER- You don't mind dusting.
45:08SPEAKER- I've got an air compressor.
45:08SPEAKERI don't mind blowing it out occasionally.
45:10SPEAKERBut anyway, we don't need to get too into it right now.
45:13SPEAKERAnd this is probably for,
45:14SPEAKERthis is a very long-term thing.
45:16SPEAKERBut there's an open-source super gun called the Minigun.
45:21SPEAKERI've watched a couple of build videos and I'm like,
45:23SPEAKERoh, you know, I might be able to get good enough
45:25SPEAKERat soldering to do that someday.
45:26SPEAKERAnd so--
45:29SPEAKER- It would not take you long
45:30SPEAKERto get good enough at soldering to do that.
45:31SPEAKER- I hatch a lot of projects
45:33SPEAKERand then don't finish a lot of them.
45:34SPEAKERSo stay tuned.
45:35SPEAKERBut I might order like a couple of practice soldering kits.
45:39SPEAKERLike what are the canonical ones?
45:41SPEAKERLike don't, like a tic-tac-tac-toe game or something?
45:44SPEAKERLike aren't there little kits
45:45SPEAKERwhere you can learn enough soldering
45:47SPEAKERto get a finished thing that does something?
45:50SPEAKER- Yeah, there's a million.
45:50SPEAKERThere's like everything from like little jitter robots
45:53SPEAKERthat have like a little vibrating motor
45:54SPEAKERthat basically have like,
45:56SPEAKERyou take like a paperclip and bend six legs.
45:59SPEAKERAnd then you kind of let it skitter across the desktop
46:01SPEAKERall the way up to like, you know,
46:03SPEAKERstuff like the Pimeroni galactic unicorn
46:06SPEAKERand like more complicated screens and stuff like that.
46:09SPEAKER- Okay, this thing, the Supergun has,
46:12SPEAKERit has one IC, one surface mount IC
46:14SPEAKERthat you would have to drag solder.
46:15SPEAKERAnd then there's also a little,
46:16SPEAKERa small bank of dip switches
46:18SPEAKERthat also is like pretty small pads,
46:20SPEAKERbut those are the only two
46:21SPEAKERlike really hard looking things on there.
46:23SPEAKEREverything else looks like something
46:25SPEAKERI could probably handle already.
46:26SPEAKER- And honestly, if you're doing
46:28SPEAKERany number of surface mount things,
46:30SPEAKERgetting the right tool to do that
46:32SPEAKERrather than trying to drag solder it is a huge improvement.
46:36SPEAKER- I've got, I've got the pine sole,
46:37SPEAKERbut I don't know if that's enough.
46:39SPEAKER- I mean, so if you're doing a lot of IC stuff
46:42SPEAKERand getting like finding a used toaster oven
46:45SPEAKERon Craigslist or something,
46:47SPEAKERand just using it only for that is totally valid.
46:50SPEAKER- Yeah, and you know what?
46:52SPEAKERI'm gonna stop this discussion here for two reasons.
46:55SPEAKERA, if I actually did all this, we should do an episode.
46:58SPEAKER- Yeah.
46:59SPEAKER- B, I can't promise I'm actually to do all this.
47:01SPEAKERLike this is something that I think is very cool
47:03SPEAKERand I'm kind of excited about,
47:05SPEAKERbut I can't promise I'll have time
47:06SPEAKERto see it through anytime soon.
47:08SPEAKERSo just table it until I actually prove
47:12SPEAKERthat I'll get into it.
47:13SPEAKER- The thing I will tell you is that building that stack
47:15SPEAKERis way easier than you think it's gonna be.
47:18SPEAKER- To, you mean to mount in the case?
47:20SPEAKER- To mount in the case.
47:21SPEAKER- The main thing is, like I said,
47:21SPEAKERthe holes just don't line up on those boards.
47:23SPEAKERSo there's, you'd have to like probably fabricate
47:25SPEAKERsome 3D printed extra mounts to make them stack cleanly.
47:30SPEAKER- Yeah, you could, there's a bunch of, there's a, yes.
47:33SPEAKER- The easier thing, like I said, the easier thing
47:35SPEAKERwould be to just give up on my stupid aesthetic goals
47:38SPEAKERand just hang the soundboard.
47:39SPEAKERThe soundboard is the one
47:40SPEAKERthat doesn't mount to the other two boards.
47:41SPEAKER- Yeah.
47:42SPEAKER- And I could just do what these other cases do
47:44SPEAKERand just mount those from the top case.
47:47SPEAKER- Put it on the front, yeah.
47:48SPEAKER- The bottom two boards are mounted on the back plate
47:51SPEAKERand then the soundboard is mounted from the front one.
47:53SPEAKERThat just ends up with extra screw holes
47:55SPEAKERin the front plate where the nice logo is.
47:57SPEAKERAnd I'm just trying to avoid that, but I don't know.
47:59SPEAKER- But you could also do, there's other,
48:01SPEAKERlike you could also do two sheets of acrylic
48:02SPEAKERand have the screws go into the front one
48:04SPEAKERand then the back one doesn't have, you know what I mean?
48:07SPEAKERThere's a bunch of ways to,
48:08SPEAKERthere are ways around this problem
48:09SPEAKERthat you have that are easy.
48:10SPEAKER- Maybe if we really commit to this,
48:12SPEAKERmaybe I'll like bring the board to your house
48:14SPEAKERand we can look at it so we can do a more informed episode.
48:17SPEAKER'Cause I, look, there's, I've had a lot going on
48:20SPEAKERand just the idea of like building a thing from nothing,
48:23SPEAKERfrom design to physical final thing
48:27SPEAKERthat I can decorate my house with a cool arcade board.
48:30SPEAKER- And also have a place you can play Mortal Kombat
48:32SPEAKERin your house.
48:32SPEAKER- And be able to play original MK2
48:34SPEAKERoff the actual board from a machine.
48:36SPEAKERLike there's a lot of appeal to like hatching a big project
48:39SPEAKERand seeing it through and I might, I might.
48:42SPEAKER- I will tell you sometimes a big project
48:44SPEAKERwill cure what ails you, you know, or at least help.
48:47SPEAKERIt was not gonna cure, but it'll help.
48:48SPEAKER- It'll be something to distract me for a while.
48:51SPEAKER- Yeah.
48:52SPEAKER- Anyway, that's all stuff that I think is neat
48:55SPEAKERand may or may not get into, stay tuned.
48:58SPEAKER- Okay, a Discord question from Fishy J.
49:02SPEAKERDo you think we'll back ourselves into a corner
49:04SPEAKERand lose anonymity on the internet
49:06SPEAKERbecause we'll have to find a way to authenticate
49:08SPEAKERwho is a real person and who is,
49:10SPEAKERand what is an AI agent online?
49:12SPEAKER- Yeah, I think, I think that's a real problem.
49:16SPEAKER- A legitimate concern.
49:17SPEAKER- Yeah, between that and the, we gotta protect the kids
49:20SPEAKERthat doesn't really protect the kids.
49:22SPEAKER- Yeah.
49:23SPEAKER- Trends that are happening right now
49:24SPEAKERwith regard to social media and things like that.
49:26SPEAKERYou know, I think we're unfortunately,
49:29SPEAKERunless something changes in the governance
49:32SPEAKERof Western democracies, we're moving toward a direction
49:36SPEAKERwhere Facebook is gonna make everybody have to sign on
49:39SPEAKERto some sort of ID verification
49:42SPEAKERbecause they desperately, Zuckerberg desperately wants
49:45SPEAKERto pull up the ladder and prevent other upstart
49:49SPEAKERsocial networks from destroying the thing
49:51SPEAKERthat he has built over the last 20 years.
49:54SPEAKERSo yeah, it's bad.
49:55SPEAKER- Good stuff, good stuff.
49:58SPEAKER- I don't know, like I would like to say
50:02SPEAKERthat I'm going to not engage with that stuff anymore
50:04SPEAKERif that becomes the case, but I don't know
50:06SPEAKERthat I can afford to from a professional sense.
50:08SPEAKER- Yeah, it's gonna get tough for sure.
50:12SPEAKERHere is a kind of related, not really,
50:15SPEAKERbut maybe sort of in the same general sphere question
50:19SPEAKERfrom MCM Ben.
50:21SPEAKERLanguage is a constantly evolving thing,
50:23SPEAKERa cycle of complication and simplification.
50:25SPEAKERSpoken language is always ahead of written language
50:28SPEAKERwith the former often breaking the rules of the ladder.
50:32SPEAKERWith LLM trainers valuing pre-LLM texts
50:36SPEAKERover potentially poisoned LLM generated texts,
50:40SPEAKERI wonder what effect this will have on language
50:42SPEAKERas increasing amounts of content is LLM generated.
50:45SPEAKERBasically what he's saying here is that a lot
50:47SPEAKERof the companies training AI on books or not just books,
50:51SPEAKERbut all material are highly valuing material
50:54SPEAKERthat existed before LLMs ruined everything.
50:58SPEAKERSo that's the framework here.
51:01SPEAKERWill that generated content lag even further
51:03SPEAKERbehind the spoken language becoming more
51:05SPEAKERand more archaic over time?
51:07SPEAKEROr by far the worst outcome will spoken language stagnate
51:11SPEAKERas there are fewer humans innovating on its use?
51:14SPEAKERIs this a problem the LLM owners will try to address
51:17SPEAKERwith techniques such as training on Twitch streams
51:19SPEAKERuntil there are enough generated streams to make
51:21SPEAKERthat worthless?
51:23SPEAKER- So we talked about Amazon training on Twitch streams
51:26SPEAKERthe other day, this constantly happens.
51:31SPEAKERAs global media has taken over, this has been a thing
51:34SPEAKERthat's happened for a long time.
51:35SPEAKERIt's an ongoing question, right?
51:38SPEAKERYou think about the gapification of fashion starting
51:41SPEAKERin the '90s when khakis and plaid shirts took over
51:46SPEAKERand how tight the fashion cycles have become
51:52SPEAKERsince the '90s, since we were kids.
51:57SPEAKERThat happens and then what happens is the youth come along
52:00SPEAKERand they push back and revolt against this in a big way.
52:03SPEAKER- Yes. - Right?
52:04SPEAKER- Yeah, it's impossible for me to see spoken language
52:07SPEAKERstagnating in any appreciable way.
52:09SPEAKER- I think if anything, if this does start happening
52:12SPEAKERand if it does start stagnating, then what we'll actually see
52:14SPEAKERis that the pushback will be even harder
52:17SPEAKERand we'll see the modern equivalent
52:19SPEAKERof cockney rhyming slang come out.
52:21SPEAKERGretchen McCullough at The Illusionist talks about this
52:23SPEAKERa fair amount, this kind of stagnation
52:26SPEAKERin the trends in language and I don't know
52:28SPEAKERthat she's talked about LLMs and how that's impacting
52:32SPEAKERbut I'm kind of increasingly of the opinion
52:35SPEAKERthat this might be a shorter term problem
52:37SPEAKERthan we think it's gonna be.
52:38SPEAKER- I have entertained that idea as well.
52:41SPEAKERAll the various vectors of backlash might converge
52:44SPEAKERat a certain point or might create a tipping point
52:46SPEAKERwhere this problem maybe doesn't go away
52:48SPEAKERbut at least is blunted to some degree.
52:54SPEAKER- I wonder if they're trying to boil the frogs too quickly
52:58SPEAKERand the frogs have noticed 'cause between the revolts
53:01SPEAKERagainst the local data centers,
53:03SPEAKEReven when they're not LLM related,
53:06SPEAKERthe folks that are rejecting the surveillance capitalism
53:09SPEAKERand like the--
53:11SPEAKER- Did you see that some jury just refused to,
53:14SPEAKERI don't know if it was a grand jury refusing to indict
53:16SPEAKERor if they were actually brought to trial
53:18SPEAKERbut there's been examples of people
53:21SPEAKERlike destroying flock cameras and then juries being like,
53:23SPEAKERyeah, I don't see anything wrong here.
53:25SPEAKER- Yeah, the jury nullification on the flock cameras
53:28SPEAKERis the thing I was thinking about.
53:29SPEAKERThere's also like I was on one of the 3D printer sites,
53:33SPEAKERthe 3D print model sites the other day
53:34SPEAKERand I saw somebody, there were 50 designs for,
53:38SPEAKERhey, if you put some epoxy on this thing that you print,
53:40SPEAKERyou can smack it on top of a flock camera
53:42SPEAKERand it'll just be completely useless at that point.
53:44SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, I'm also, this is very anecdotal.
53:47SPEAKERThis is not data but I'm seeing multiple examples
53:49SPEAKERof like parents of younger children,
53:53SPEAKERlike kind of probably middle school-ish age children
53:55SPEAKERright now just talking about how all their kids
53:57SPEAKERand all their friends think AI anything
54:00SPEAKERis incredibly cringe now.
54:02SPEAKER- So the kids, my daughter's friend peer group,
54:05SPEAKERincluding the kids that she goes to school with
54:08SPEAKERremotely online that live all over the country
54:10SPEAKERare pretty much universally anti-AI.
54:13SPEAKERThe interesting thing is they're anti-AI
54:17SPEAKERfor the reason that is like if I'm sitting here all day
54:19SPEAKERhaving to learn stuff, I might as well learn stuff
54:21SPEAKERand if I just let the machine do this for me,
54:23SPEAKERwhy am I wasting my time sitting here all fucking day?
54:26SPEAKERWhich is like the most pragmatic
54:28SPEAKERand also heartwarming response to this beyond--
54:32SPEAKER- Yes, that is about the best perspective
54:33SPEAKERyou could have in that position.
54:35SPEAKER- Yeah, so anyway, I don't know,
54:38SPEAKERmaybe this is gonna be a blip and this will be,
54:42SPEAKERthe stuff that, like the stuff that Cory Doctorow
54:45SPEAKERhas been screaming about for 25 years now
54:47SPEAKERis suddenly mainstream in a way
54:49SPEAKERthat I didn't ever expect to happen
54:51SPEAKERand it's because they've turned up the heat on all of it.
54:54SPEAKER- Yep, they don't know when to quit.
54:56SPEAKER- What is it, there's three grams of gold
54:58SPEAKERand 15 grams of copper in every flock camera?
55:01SPEAKERThis is the information you needed to know?
55:03SPEAKER- Interesting. - Yeah.
55:05SPEAKER- All right, well, do with that what you will.
55:08SPEAKERLet's just finish out the everything is terrible block.
55:11SPEAKER- Everything is awesome.
55:12SPEAKER- Here from Chip Shirley, this is a dark idea.
55:15SPEAKER- Oh no.
55:16SPEAKER- I was listening to a podcast recently
55:18SPEAKERand a guest on it had both a speaking voice
55:20SPEAKERand speaking style that I found less than pleasant
55:23SPEAKERas it was only a guest I powered through the episode,
55:26SPEAKERbut had it been a host and it was my first listen,
55:28SPEAKERI would have dropped the podcast.
55:30SPEAKERThis got me thinking, do you see a future
55:32SPEAKERwhere podcast hosts use virtual voices to clean up
55:35SPEAKERtheir speaking style and change their voice to be appealing
55:39SPEAKERbeyond just adjusting levels?
55:41SPEAKERSomething like a VTuber, but just for their voice,
55:44SPEAKERI would expect this would use
55:46SPEAKERsome machine learning application.
55:47SPEAKERI'm seeing a prompt like take Chip's audio,
55:50SPEAKERbut output in a voice that sounds pleasant,
55:52SPEAKERdeep, radio friendly, wise and thoughtful.
55:54SPEAKERAlso remove unnecessary pauses,
55:57SPEAKERumms and similar thinking noises.
56:00SPEAKEROr do you think this is already happening?
56:01SPEAKERThere's nothing worse than editing your own podcast
56:03SPEAKERand realizing how many times an hour you say um.
56:06SPEAKER- Yep, yep, that's for sure.
56:08SPEAKER- I hope this doesn't happen.
56:12SPEAKERI'm sure people will use this.
56:14SPEAKERIt's the equivalent of like the blemish fix
56:16SPEAKERon your video call, but hear your voice.
56:18SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't have any evidence
56:19SPEAKERthat this kind of thing is happening right now,
56:21SPEAKERbut I would be shocked if it doesn't come to be
56:23SPEAKERat some point.
56:23SPEAKERIt is happening in high level,
56:25SPEAKERlike Hollywood production though.
56:26SPEAKERLike that's exactly what the Darth Vader performance
56:30SPEAKERin that Obi-Wan show was.
56:32SPEAKERWas, I forget the name of the middleware
56:34SPEAKERthat they used for that,
56:35SPEAKERbut there was some company in Eastern Europe
56:38SPEAKERthat made like a software package they worked with
56:40SPEAKERfor that show that was, if I remember correctly,
56:42SPEAKERmy understanding was they had a human being
56:44SPEAKERperformed that role in their voice.
56:46SPEAKERAnd then they used-
56:47SPEAKER- Is it the Luke Skywalker one too in The Mandalorian?
56:49SPEAKER- Maybe, I don't know if they did that the same way though,
56:52SPEAKERbecause that wasn't, it's hard to say.
56:55SPEAKERWhat I heard of that voice did not sound as pitch perfect.
56:57SPEAKERLike the, I mean, you know, said the acting part aside,
57:01SPEAKERthe Vader voice in that Obi-Wan show
57:02SPEAKERwas pretty indistinguishable from the real thing,
57:05SPEAKERjust the tonality of it, you know,
57:07SPEAKERthe resonance and everything,
57:08SPEAKERlike it really sounded like him.
57:10SPEAKERSo I don't know if they did the same thing
57:12SPEAKERwith Mandalorian, but that was exactly
57:16SPEAKERwhat they're talking about here,
57:17SPEAKERwas somebody else talking and then applying.
57:18SPEAKERWell, of course this is, what he's talking about here
57:20SPEAKERis transforming the content a little more than that was,
57:24SPEAKERwhere that was just sort of changing
57:25SPEAKERthe character of the voice on top of a performance,
57:28SPEAKERwhere this would be rephrasing your audio
57:31SPEAKERand stuff like that, but.
57:32SPEAKER- Now, the thing I will say I know is happening
57:35SPEAKERis that there's a lot of, hey, if you're a content creator
57:40SPEAKERand you want to make a podcast,
57:41SPEAKERyou can turn your newsletter into a podcast really easily
57:44SPEAKERby running it through our simple tool chain
57:47SPEAKERthat probably grinds up kittens to make it work.
57:50SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, that's just, at some point,
57:51SPEAKERthat's just kind of advanced text to speech.
57:54SPEAKER- Yeah, it's, the more interesting thing for me
57:57SPEAKERis the other way, like, could we make a newsletter
58:00SPEAKERthat is generated off of our podcast,
58:02SPEAKERor could we make, I mean, we should actually,
58:05SPEAKERI do need to actually figure out
58:07SPEAKERhow to make decent transcripts,
58:08SPEAKER'cause the transcripts that are coming out now
58:10SPEAKERare quite good and I feel like that's an okay use
58:13SPEAKERof the whole technology, but yeah, I don't know.
58:16SPEAKERI, yeah, this is grim.
58:20SPEAKER- Yeah, well, or potentially grim.
58:22SPEAKERIt's, it's, it is speculatively grim.
58:25SPEAKERI don't know that anybody's actually doing this yet.
58:27SPEAKER- There's definitely a startup out there working on this.
58:29SPEAKERI guarantee you that there is.
58:31SPEAKER- Probably, or it's just gonna get Sherlock'd
58:33SPEAKERinto a bunch of existing products.
58:35SPEAKER- Yeah, hey, hey, hey. - Eventually.
58:37SPEAKER- NVIDIA broadcast for the way you talk in meetings.
58:39SPEAKER- Yeah, let's do another couple real quick ones here.
58:43SPEAKERPerson stuff, what do you think about the recent crop
58:45SPEAKERof new keyboard phones?
58:47SPEAKERDo you think you can see yourself making the switch?
58:49SPEAKERCould a more square screen help with doom scrolling?
58:52SPEAKERI didn't know this was a thing.
58:54SPEAKER- Oh yeah, there's a Kickstarter right now
58:55SPEAKERfor a thing called the Minimal Phone 2.
58:57SPEAKERIt's raised $1.7 million and has 2,500 backers,
59:00SPEAKERand it's basically an Android phone with a squarish screen
59:04SPEAKERand a full like, not BlackBerry style keyboard,
59:09SPEAKERbut like a chiclet style keyboard.
59:10SPEAKER- It's like a modern smartphone design
59:14SPEAKERmated with kind of a BlackBerry.
59:16SPEAKERIt's like, it's sort of halfway between like an iPhone
59:18SPEAKERand a BlackBerry.
59:19SPEAKERThat's interesting, I have not seen that.
59:21SPEAKER- Well, and when you look at their phone,
59:24SPEAKERwhen you look at their marketing, it's all like,
59:26SPEAKERhey, you're a rebel, we've let our phones rule us
59:30SPEAKERinstead of ruling our phones, which is not untrue.
59:32SPEAKER- They're not wrong.
59:33SPEAKERAlso, so I didn't know about keyboard phones coming back,
59:36SPEAKERbut I did know about like,
59:37SPEAKERthere's been some like candy bar phones,
59:39SPEAKERfeature phones have come back in a way,
59:41SPEAKERand I guess this is just the next logical evolution of that.
59:44SPEAKER- Well, there was actually a big,
59:47SPEAKERI can't remember who said it.
59:49SPEAKERI saw something the other day that was really interesting,
59:51SPEAKERand it basically was a new recommendation
59:54SPEAKERthat you probably shouldn't give your kids access to a phone
59:57SPEAKERuntil they're in high school at the earliest, right?
1:00:02SPEAKERWhich is impractical for a lot of people
1:00:05SPEAKERthat have two working parents,
1:00:06SPEAKERbecause you need to be able to find out
1:00:09SPEAKERwhere your kid is after school
1:00:10SPEAKERand set up times to meet and stuff like that.
1:00:14SPEAKERI don't know, I don't know how I feel
1:00:17SPEAKERabout these kinds of feature phones.
1:00:19SPEAKERFor the way I work, my phone is really vitally important
1:00:23SPEAKERto me if I wanna not be sitting in front of my desk all day.
1:00:26SPEAKERAnd I don't know that it works for me, but I do,
1:00:30SPEAKERlike I think rather than go this direction,
1:00:33SPEAKERI would just go for a dumb phone
1:00:35SPEAKERif I was worried about this.
1:00:37SPEAKER- I'm probably with you.
1:00:39SPEAKERI also don't see switching off of an iPhone anytime soon,
1:00:41SPEAKERbut I fully support any amount of weird stuff
1:00:46SPEAKERpeople want to do to diversify the phone market
1:00:50SPEAKERbeyond the high-end smartphone
1:00:51SPEAKERor even the low-end smartphone,
1:00:52SPEAKERlike just any weird experiments
1:00:55SPEAKERwith other phone paradigms, I am all for.
1:01:00SPEAKER- The one thing I will say is that I don't like,
1:01:05SPEAKERI do see like, okay, there's two things, two thoughts here.
1:01:09SPEAKEROne is that we have basically have two points of failure
1:01:12SPEAKERin tech for phone OSs at this point.
1:01:15SPEAKERWe have Android and we have iOS
1:01:16SPEAKERand both have their own unique set of problems
1:01:18SPEAKERand we're at the whim of like,
1:01:21SPEAKERGoogle is essentially dead to me
1:01:22SPEAKERwith the things that they've been doing
1:01:23SPEAKERto their phone ecosystem.
1:01:24SPEAKERSo that means if iOS goes that same direction,
1:01:26SPEAKERI'm really hosed.
1:01:28SPEAKERThe other thing is the predictive text keyboards,
1:01:30SPEAKERespecially as they've added AI to them
1:01:31SPEAKERhave turned into hot garbage.
1:01:34SPEAKERLike my iPhone keyboard now is just replacing,
1:01:38SPEAKERlike if I start typing something,
1:01:39SPEAKERsometimes it'll jam out a whole phrase there
1:01:42SPEAKERthat is absolutely not what I wanted
1:01:44SPEAKERand not where I was going.
1:01:45SPEAKERAnd then I have to back, back, back, back, back
1:01:46SPEAKERto release that.
1:01:48SPEAKERSo I do see the appeal of having a hardware keyboard
1:01:51SPEAKERand turning off all the predictive tech stuff entirely.
1:01:54SPEAKERAm I gonna actually go as far as to buy a phone
1:01:57SPEAKERwith a hardware keyboard and do that?
1:01:58SPEAKERNo, 'cause that seems insane to me.
1:02:00SPEAKER- Yeah, is that thing just an Android underneath?
1:02:02SPEAKER- It's just an Android, yeah.
1:02:04SPEAKER- I guess that makes sense.
1:02:05SPEAKERLike probably just about anything that's not Apple
1:02:07SPEAKERthat even if it's an experimental hardware design,
1:02:09SPEAKERit's probably still just gonna run Android
1:02:11SPEAKERat the end of the day, right?
1:02:12SPEAKER- Yeah, but it's Android in the sense
1:02:13SPEAKERof the Linux kernel is Linux, right?
1:02:16SPEAKERIn that they're not, I don't think they're putting
1:02:17SPEAKERthe G Suite of apps and the Google, like all the Google,
1:02:21SPEAKERthey've unplumbed all the Google architecture
1:02:23SPEAKERout of it is my understanding.
1:02:24SPEAKER- I mean, I guess that's the beauty of Android
1:02:25SPEAKERis you can just build your own stuff on top of it, right?
1:02:28SPEAKER- Yeah, so anyway, I don't know.
1:02:30SPEAKERI feel like having access to those apps is important
1:02:36SPEAKER'cause like if it has three of the five apps
1:02:39SPEAKERthat I use on the day-to-day and not the other two,
1:02:41SPEAKERthen it's not good.
1:02:42SPEAKERThey do have the full suite of Android apps.
1:02:45SPEAKERSo I guess they have enough plumbing
1:02:46SPEAKERto get the Play Store on.
1:02:47SPEAKERBut anyway, I really think if I cared enough about this,
1:02:51SPEAKERI would just put a pocket camera in my pocket
1:02:54SPEAKERand buy a dumb phone.
1:02:55SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, I think that's the way.
1:02:58SPEAKERAll right, last one real quick.
1:03:00SPEAKERSquirrely, I think is probably how you say this.
1:03:04SPEAKERBrad, can you mention the resources you found most useful
1:03:07SPEAKERwhen you did a deep dive on the Linux boot process?
1:03:09SPEAKERI know that, I know you said that's a topic
1:03:12SPEAKERyou wanted to be on Dual Boot Diaries for.
1:03:14SPEAKERI'm interested in doing a deep dive
1:03:16SPEAKERand would love to know what you found most useful.
1:03:19SPEAKERTwo answers to this.
1:03:20SPEAKERThe refined documentation is probably the place to start.
1:03:24SPEAKER- It is so good.
1:03:24SPEAKERIt is unbelievable. - It is dense.
1:03:26SPEAKERLike we've said this before, it is incredibly dense.
1:03:29SPEAKERIt is just a 90s ass web design,
1:03:34SPEAKERblack text on white background, a huge wall of text.
1:03:36SPEAKERIt is pretty dense to pick through.
1:03:38SPEAKERIt is not the most readable user-friendly thing
1:03:41SPEAKERI've ever seen, but it's the guy who developed refined
1:03:43SPEAKERthe kind of boot manager menu thing that is very cool.
1:03:48SPEAKERLike he also, I think that guy has deeper roots
1:03:51SPEAKERin contributing to other UEFI stuff than I realized
1:03:54SPEAKERbesides maintaining refined.
1:03:56SPEAKER- Makes sense. - If I'm not mistaken,
1:03:57SPEAKERlike I don't know what his involvement, anyway.
1:03:59SPEAKERHe has done very extensive documentation
1:04:03SPEAKERabout how just kind of the boot chain works
1:04:06SPEAKERfrom the time you turn your computer on
1:04:07SPEAKERto how UEFI takes over and what it can boot
1:04:10SPEAKERand where partitions need to live and all that stuff
1:04:12SPEAKERis kind of the place to start with that stuff.
1:04:15SPEAKERAnd then I think he'll probably link off
1:04:17SPEAKERto maybe some other stuff from his documentation
1:04:19SPEAKERhere and there.
1:04:20SPEAKER- When I'm looking at the refined page,
1:04:22SPEAKERhe still does blue links for stuff you haven't read
1:04:24SPEAKERand purple links for stuff you have clicked.
1:04:26SPEAKERAnd like getting refined, installing and uninstalling refined
1:04:31SPEAKERusing refined, configuring the boot manager,
1:04:33SPEAKERusing EFI drivers and managing secure boot,
1:04:35SPEAKERall purple links on my,
1:04:37SPEAKERthose are some of his blog posts that I've read.
1:04:39SPEAKER- Yes, yes, like some very extensive documentation there.
1:04:41SPEAKERThe other thing I'm gonna say real quick
1:04:43SPEAKERis that I am extremely overdue for a Windows reinstall.
1:04:48SPEAKERAnd I have got some new mad science thoughts on,
1:04:51SPEAKERI'm gonna start dual booting Linux and Windows
1:04:53SPEAKERfrom the same drive.
1:04:55SPEAKER- Yeah, I do that, it's fine.
1:04:57SPEAKER- Yeah, so yeah, right.
1:04:58SPEAKERSo it's, but I'd also got some ideas
1:05:01SPEAKERabout making Windows behave a little better
1:05:03SPEAKERor kind of laying things out
1:05:04SPEAKERthe way I want them to be partition wise.
1:05:06SPEAKERAnyway, the long story short, when I'm off next lander
1:05:09SPEAKERin a couple of weeks, I'm gonna spend a chunk of that time
1:05:13SPEAKERoverhauling my boot drive.
1:05:14SPEAKERAnd so we should--
1:05:15SPEAKER- Before you do that, we should talk about it.
1:05:16SPEAKER'Cause I have less hard learned lessons
1:05:20SPEAKERabout getting that dual boot to work right.
1:05:22SPEAKERThe big tip that I'll give just for people
1:05:24SPEAKERwho are listening and might wanna try this
1:05:25SPEAKERbefore we get to that episode
1:05:27SPEAKERis that you wanna have two boot partitions.
1:05:29SPEAKERYou wanna have a Windows boot partition
1:05:31SPEAKERthat Windows knows about that's the first one on the drive.
1:05:33SPEAKERAnd then you put a Linux boot partition that's pretty big
1:05:36SPEAKERtoward the end of the drive.
1:05:37SPEAKER- So what if I, wait, are you talking about system partition
1:05:40SPEAKERor-- - System partition.
1:05:41SPEAKER- Oh, I thought you meant the EFI system,
1:05:44SPEAKERlike not the ESP. - I'm talking about the--
1:05:45SPEAKER- You're not talking about the ESP,
1:05:46SPEAKERyou're talking about the actual big partition
1:05:50SPEAKERthat the OS lives in.
1:05:51SPEAKER- No, no, I'm talking about the bootable partition.
1:05:55SPEAKERI'm talking about the ESP, yeah.
1:05:57SPEAKER- The FAT32 partition.
1:05:58SPEAKER- Yeah, so Windows, you give Windows its own
1:06:00SPEAKERand then Windows never messes up your Linux one.
1:06:02SPEAKER'Cause the problem that always happens
1:06:04SPEAKERis when there's a big Windows update,
1:06:05SPEAKERit will jack up your Linux boot partition
1:06:07SPEAKERif you put the Linux stuff in there as well.
1:06:10SPEAKERBut all of the modern Linux boot loaders will pass through,
1:06:14SPEAKERwill just say, "Oh, there's a Windows partition,
1:06:16SPEAKER"I'm just gonna pass through to that, don't worry about it."
1:06:17SPEAKER- What if I said no to your rules?
1:06:19SPEAKER- That's fine.
1:06:20SPEAKER- What if I accept no limits?
1:06:22SPEAKER- Look, I'm never gonna tell you not to do your Brad thing.
1:06:27SPEAKER- What if I refuse to bow to the men in Redmond?
1:06:32SPEAKER- I mean, look,
1:06:35SPEAKERI like for my computer to work reliably when I turn it on
1:06:38SPEAKERand I have no fear when I update Windows.
1:06:41SPEAKER- I get it, I get it.
1:06:42SPEAKER- I also have some real thoughts
1:06:43SPEAKERabout whether file partitions
1:06:45SPEAKERand whether you should share Steam across OSes.
1:06:48SPEAKER- Definitely not doing that.
1:06:49SPEAKER- Oh, that's great, you should do that.
1:06:50SPEAKERThat's the best way to live.
1:06:52SPEAKER- I 100% gave up on sharing a Steam install
1:06:54SPEAKERbetween Windows and Linux.
1:06:56SPEAKERI'm probably never gonna play games in Linux anyway,
1:06:59SPEAKERso it doesn't matter.
1:06:59SPEAKER- Wow, wow.
1:07:00SPEAKER- I mean, if you have a Windows install already,
1:07:03SPEAKERwhy not just use the thing that plays all the games?
1:07:05SPEAKER- Turns out it runs a lot faster in a lot of, anyway.
1:07:08SPEAKERAnyway.
1:07:09SPEAKER- Anyway, we'll see.
1:07:10SPEAKERBut yeah, we should just do an episode about that
1:07:13SPEAKERonce I get through all of that and have stuff to report.
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1:09:11SPEAKERis did anybody ever actually try to print out the podcast?
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1:09:17SPEAKERand you have one too, a silicon wafer
1:09:19SPEAKERwith the episode of the podcast printed on it.
1:09:22SPEAKER- Yes, thanks to very kind Discord member Bertron.
1:09:26SPEAKER- Yeah, shout out to Bertron.
1:09:27SPEAKERAlso makes a good cookie.
1:09:28SPEAKER- Etched, etched of the podcast into silicon.
1:09:31SPEAKER- Yes, we will be back next week.
1:09:33SPEAKERAs always, please consider the environment
1:09:36SPEAKERfor printing this podcast.
1:09:37SPEAKER(upbeat music)