290: Earn Your Nintendo License

00:00SPEAKERYou know, launch events are weird, right?

00:02SPEAKER- Yes, I've been to a few, and yes,

00:04SPEAKERthey're all slightly different.

00:06SPEAKER- So you're in this place,

00:07SPEAKERyou're buying something that's probably pretty expensive,

00:10SPEAKERand you're in a bubble of safety

00:12SPEAKERwhere they're letting limited people in,

00:14SPEAKERand you're doing your consumerism,

00:20SPEAKERand the people are excited, and the thing's cool,

00:21SPEAKERand everybody's really excited,

00:22SPEAKERand you step out on the street, and you're like,

00:24SPEAKER"Man, I have a giant-ass target on my back,"

00:28SPEAKERand you're like, "I want to get a car to pick me up

00:31SPEAKER"and drive me back to my car," and I just, I hadn't,

00:35SPEAKERit's funny, 'cause I remember,

00:37SPEAKERI think on the Xbox 360 launch,

00:39SPEAKERthe target that I went to try to buy an Xbox 360,

00:42SPEAKERthey kinda messed up the launch

00:43SPEAKER'cause they were bad at it back then,

00:45SPEAKERand there were a lot of really disgruntled people

00:48SPEAKER'cause they'd come out in the morning and they said,

00:49SPEAKER"Hey, here's your ticket, just come back at 10,"

00:53SPEAKERand then a bunch of people, those people all left the line,

00:57SPEAKERand then another line formed,

00:59SPEAKERand those people thought they were gonna get consoles

01:01SPEAKER'cause there was no line, but then there weren't consoles,

01:05SPEAKERand target people had to escort people out to the car.

01:08SPEAKERIt was a bad scene.

01:09SPEAKER- And then anybody that did have a console suddenly

01:11SPEAKERwas under some amount of threat.

01:13SPEAKER- Yeah, it was not a friendly crowd at that.

01:16SPEAKERPeople were ready to play some "Geometry Wars"

01:18SPEAKERis all I'm saying.

01:19SPEAKER- Now let's talk about taking a new video game console

01:21SPEAKERon the bus with you.

01:22SPEAKER- I don't like that, that feels bad.

01:24SPEAKERI've gone down to Stone's Town more than once on the bus

01:27SPEAKERto buy a thing and come back with it on the bus,

01:29SPEAKERand that certainly feels weird.

01:31SPEAKER- Yeah, I did, I remember doing iPhone launches,

01:34SPEAKERlike when we used to have to sit,

01:35SPEAKERNorm and I, and sometimes Gary would go sit out

01:38SPEAKERin the parking lot at Stone's Town overnight

01:40SPEAKERwaiting for iPhone 4 or 5 or whatever launches,

01:44SPEAKERand you'd walk out of there and you'd be like,

01:46SPEAKER"Man, I have something in my pocket that's $1,000,"

01:49SPEAKERand accessories and stuff, it's an easy mark.

01:53SPEAKERSo anyway, we left the Union Square Nintendo Store.

01:55SPEAKERA friend of the show, Adam Patrick Murray and I,

01:57SPEAKERleft the Nintendo Store with a fair chunk of change

02:01SPEAKERin consoles last night, and yeah, it was exciting.

02:07SPEAKERWe walked over from the PC World Office,

02:09SPEAKERwhich is like a 20-minute walk, it's a nice walk.

02:11SPEAKER- Where is the Nintendo Store?

02:12SPEAKERI haven't been there.

02:13SPEAKER- It's on Geary, it's on the corner of Union Square

02:16SPEAKERnext to Victoria's Secret in the St. Francis building.

02:19SPEAKER- Oh, Union Square, huh?

02:20SPEAKER- Yeah, it's one of two or three nice things

02:25SPEAKERthat remain in Union Square.

02:26SPEAKER- I don't know why I thought it might be down

02:27SPEAKERat the Embarcadero for some reason, but.

02:29SPEAKER- That would have been a nicer place.

02:31SPEAKERMy guess is that the city gave them a fair chunk of change

02:34SPEAKERto open it up down there to try to bring some stuff back

02:38SPEAKERdown there, 'cause it's been a little,

02:41SPEAKERthere's an Urban Outfitters still,

02:42SPEAKERbut now the broken glass doesn't look ironic

02:44SPEAKERlike Urban Outfitters always does.

02:46SPEAKERNow it just looks like, hey man,

02:48SPEAKERthis is kind of a crap neighborhood these days.

02:51SPEAKERAnd then the big flagship Apple Store is down there too,

02:54SPEAKERwhich is really nice, but also, you know,

02:57SPEAKERnot a lot, there's not a lot going on up there these days.

03:01SPEAKER- Well, hey, welcome to the neighborhood, Nintendo.

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03:31SPEAKERWelcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod, I'm Will.

03:34SPEAKER- I'm Brad.

03:35SPEAKER- Brad, it's Nintendo Switch 2 launch day

03:38SPEAKERas we record this.

03:39SPEAKER- What is today, holy crap.

03:41SPEAKER- It's also the first day of Summer Games Festival.

03:44SPEAKER- Oh yeah, I mean, this is kind of the big travel day

03:46SPEAKERtomorrow, we're recording this Thursday afternoon

03:48SPEAKERvery frantically before I have to go get on an airplane.

03:51SPEAKER- I assume that like tonight there's gonna be a lot

03:53SPEAKERof really intoxicated people at the J.W. Marriott bar.

03:57SPEAKER- Probably, probably.

03:59SPEAKERIt's Switch 2 launch day, it is kind of summer game fest,

04:01SPEAKERlike unofficial kickoff day.

04:03SPEAKERIt is Trump and Musk narcissistic explosion on Twitter.

04:07SPEAKERThere's just a lot going on right now to keep up with,

04:11SPEAKERbut I think we're going to pick the happiest

04:13SPEAKERof those topics, I think, or the purest of them.

04:16SPEAKER- Yeah, so-

04:17SPEAKER- Definitely the most tech oriented of them.

04:19SPEAKER- Yeah, I think that's, I mean, look, Elon and the battle

04:23SPEAKERof the narcissist is happening over social media.

04:25SPEAKERThat's technology, right?

04:26SPEAKERWe wouldn't be here in this situation without social media.

04:29SPEAKERSo thanks, Twitter, I guess.

04:31SPEAKER- Yes.

04:33SPEAKER- But yeah, no, I went to the launch event.

04:35SPEAKERYou're still Switch 2-less is my understanding.

04:37SPEAKER- Yes, you know, I've been getting ready for this event

04:40SPEAKERand I'm about to leave.

04:40SPEAKERLike if I had ordered one, there is every possibility

04:43SPEAKERthat it would not have shown up until tomorrow

04:45SPEAKERafter I was on an airplane.

04:47SPEAKERI'm leaving first thing in the morning.

04:48SPEAKER- I was going to say, there's a lot of,

04:49SPEAKERI saw a lot of posts this morning from game developers

04:52SPEAKERon their way to SGF that are like, man,

04:55SPEAKERmy Switch arrived 15 minutes after I left the airport.

04:58SPEAKERAnd that feels bad, man.

05:00SPEAKER- And I live in an apartment building where certain carriers,

05:02SPEAKERnot all of them, but some of them are prone

05:04SPEAKERto just tapping the doorbell, dropping the box

05:07SPEAKERon the sidewalk outside the gate and leaving.

05:11SPEAKERSo depending on how it got shipped,

05:12SPEAKERthat could have been a real bad scene.

05:13SPEAKERSo anyway, long story short,

05:15SPEAKERI am kind of actually just fine waiting

05:18SPEAKERuntil I get back next week to think about a Switch 2.

05:21SPEAKER- So it seems like there's a lot of them.

05:23SPEAKERJust not to bury the lead here,

05:24SPEAKERbut this is the first console launch

05:26SPEAKERand since like the Wii U probably that I remember

05:30SPEAKERlike day one consoles being pretty easy to get.

05:34SPEAKER- Yes, and honestly, like, okay, look,

05:37SPEAKERI am not in any way like banking on or putting money on

05:40SPEAKERbeing able to just go buy one in a store next week.

05:43SPEAKERBut it does sound way more likely

05:45SPEAKERthan I think we assumed it would be previously.

05:48SPEAKERAnd like, frankly, I actually am kind of happy to track that

05:51SPEAKERfor a couple of weeks and see what that experience is like.

05:55SPEAKERBecause if you remember, the Switch 1 was very hard

05:57SPEAKERto get your hands on for a very long time.

05:58SPEAKERAnd that was way pre-pandemic and even maybe pre,

06:03SPEAKERlike, you know, microprocessor fabrication

06:06SPEAKERis just completely eaten up by Apple era.

06:08SPEAKERThat was 2017.

06:09SPEAKERSo that was like, it was definitely definitely-

06:11SPEAKER- That was right in the heart of that time, I think really.

06:13SPEAKER- But like, it was really hard to get a Switch

06:15SPEAKERfor like six months after it came out.

06:17SPEAKER- Well, the Wii was the same way, right?

06:19SPEAKERThe Wii was like six, eight months.

06:22SPEAKERYou like went and got in line at GameStop in the morning.

06:25SPEAKERSorry, I did the thing.

06:27SPEAKER- Look, I'm fine.

06:28SPEAKERI got past that two decades ago.

06:31SPEAKERIt took me six months.

06:32SPEAKERThe Switch 1 came out in March

06:34SPEAKERand it was like late August before.

06:36SPEAKER'Cause I told myself, I mean, we had them in the office

06:38SPEAKERso I could see what they were like and everything.

06:39SPEAKERBut I told myself, like, I'm not gonna get one of these

06:41SPEAKERuntil they are just in stock in a store

06:42SPEAKERand I can walk in and buy it.

06:44SPEAKERAnd that took until late August.

06:48SPEAKER- We ended up with a Switch 1 early

06:50SPEAKERand I don't remember why.

06:51SPEAKERI might've gotten it to cover, it was 2017

06:53SPEAKERis when it came out?

06:54SPEAKER- Yeah.

06:55SPEAKER- I can't remember how I got a Switch 1.

06:57SPEAKERMaybe Gina is a, Gina's real good at Nintendo.

07:00SPEAKERShe likes Nintendo games and like she has a good history.

07:03SPEAKERShe got a, we got a launch day Wii

07:05SPEAKERbecause she was in the, by what used to be the Colma,

07:09SPEAKERthe second Colma GameStop.

07:11SPEAKERLike she was going into Bed Bath and beyond to fixing that.

07:13SPEAKERShe saw a line outside that store one day,

07:15SPEAKERmonths before release.

07:17SPEAKERAnd she went and was like, "Hey, what's the line for?"

07:19SPEAKERAnd they're like, "We're Switch pre-orders."

07:21SPEAKERAnd she got a day one, like pick it up at GameStop,

07:24SPEAKERlaunch Switch, launch Wii.

07:26SPEAKER- All right.

07:27SPEAKER- And then the Wii U, friend of the show, Gary Widow,

07:30SPEAKERwas at a Target the morning of the Wii U launch

07:31SPEAKERand was like, "Hey, they have a whole shitload of these.

07:33SPEAKERDo you want one?"

07:34SPEAKER- I guess, why not? - I bet they did.

07:36SPEAKER- Yeah, they had a lot of Wii U's.

07:38SPEAKER- I like the Wii U.

07:39SPEAKER- I have a fondness for it.

07:41SPEAKERThere was a lot of smack talk about the Wii U last night

07:43SPEAKERat the launch event, so.

07:44SPEAKER- Sure.

07:45SPEAKER- So yeah, I went downtown to Union Square,

07:48SPEAKERwent to the Nintendo store, full disclosure,

07:51SPEAKERthey invited press and influencer type people and PC World.

07:56SPEAKERI went with Adam, Patrick Murray from PC World.

07:59SPEAKERAnd we were invited to come and enjoy the festivities,

08:03SPEAKERhear a brief speech from a Nintendo executive.

08:06SPEAKER- Wait, which one?

08:07SPEAKER- I didn't recognize her.

08:09SPEAKER- Okay.

08:10SPEAKER- They didn't say.

08:10SPEAKERMay have just been like the person

08:11SPEAKERwho runs the store here, I don't know.

08:13SPEAKERAnd then we could buy our Switch 2 hardware at the venue.

08:18SPEAKERSo nothing was provided by Nintendo

08:20SPEAKERexcept for a kind of a short line skip.

08:23SPEAKERBut even when we got there at like eight o'clock,

08:25SPEAKERthe line was only like 40 people deep, I think.

08:28SPEAKER- Interesting.

08:29SPEAKERI was seeing a lot of variation out there.

08:31SPEAKERI like this whole cycle since pre-orders opened,

08:34SPEAKERGod, like a month ago, six weeks.

08:36SPEAKERIt's not been that long.

08:37SPEAKERI guess this has been an exercise

08:39SPEAKERin like what a console launch is like in 2025,

08:42SPEAKER'cause it's been five years since consoles came out.

08:45SPEAKERAnd I'm seeing a lot of variation out there.

08:47SPEAKERLike some stores, some stores I was seeing people like,

08:50SPEAKERoh, there are 30 people here for 50 units

08:54SPEAKERat the store that they got.

08:55SPEAKERBut then I saw like from friend of the show, Steve Kim,

08:57SPEAKERI guess is, well, I will say where he lives.

09:00SPEAKERBut I think his, whichever store he went to,

09:03SPEAKERI think it must've been a big area store.

09:05SPEAKERThere were like 800 people in line.

09:07SPEAKER- I saw that post too, yeah.

09:08SPEAKER- So like there is definitely a lot of variation,

09:10SPEAKERbut it definitely seems like

09:11SPEAKERthere's a good amount of stock out there.

09:13SPEAKER- Yeah, it seems like they're less,

09:15SPEAKERlike my sister-in-law went and picked one up at Costco

09:17SPEAKERthis morning on the way to work.

09:18SPEAKERLike didn't wait in line or anything as far as I can tell.

09:21SPEAKER- Now time will tell again,

09:23SPEAKERas far as ongoing availability goes,

09:24SPEAKERif even those pickups this morning at places like Costco

09:28SPEAKERwere just part of this big initial allocation for launch

09:32SPEAKERand that it's, who knows,

09:32SPEAKERit could be a month before more show up, we'll see.

09:37SPEAKER- Yeah.

09:37SPEAKER- But I would hope that they're probably pumping them out

09:39SPEAKERat a pretty steady clip.

09:41SPEAKER- I mean, the benefit of them pushing this back

09:43SPEAKERkind of quietly without saying anything about it

09:46SPEAKERseems like they have a whole boatload of them available.

09:50SPEAKERSo, and there's not multiple,

09:52SPEAKERlike the multiple hardware SKUs are,

09:54SPEAKERdo you get the cheap version of Mario Kart World

09:57SPEAKERor do you not get the cheap version of Mario Kart World,

09:59SPEAKERwhich is nice, I guess, I don't know.

10:03SPEAKER- And I think where I landed on the next Lander Podcast

10:05SPEAKERthis week was you might as well get that bundle

10:07SPEAKERbecause Mario Kart is the new game.

10:10SPEAKER- It's the only game to play right now, really, that's new.

10:12SPEAKER- It's the only new full price game.

10:13SPEAKERSo, and it's literally 30 bucks off if you buy the bundle.

10:16SPEAKERAnd so-

10:17SPEAKER- Which is a pretty good discount.

10:18SPEAKER- So if you're not interested in the new Mario Kart,

10:21SPEAKERlike there's really no reason

10:22SPEAKERto even get the new Switch, frankly.

10:24SPEAKER- No, so let's see, I got home at about 10 o'clock last night

10:27SPEAKERI plugged it in, it updated immediately,

10:30SPEAKERthe update was real fast, I was pleasantly surprised by that.

10:33SPEAKER- Like the onboarding and the console setup thing

10:35SPEAKERis maybe the thing I'm the most curious about here

10:37SPEAKERbecause, you know, somewhat notoriously now

10:40SPEAKERthey did not send these out early for press.

10:42SPEAKER- Yeah.

10:43SPEAKER- Like I think some press members got them

10:44SPEAKERlike yesterday, midday or whatever.

10:46SPEAKER- Yeah.

10:47SPEAKER- But there was all that talk about like,

10:48SPEAKERoh, there's a big day one system update

10:50SPEAKERthat you can't use the thing at all without and so-

10:53SPEAKER- It took like 30 seconds to download.

10:55SPEAKER- So like, I don't wanna get into like conspiracy thinking

10:58SPEAKERtoo much here, but I really wonder how much of that

11:00SPEAKERwas them kind of just flipping on features

11:04SPEAKERthat were probably already ready to go.

11:07SPEAKER- My guess is that they didn't wanna have,

11:09SPEAKERlike there was a Russian streamer who bought one

11:12SPEAKERfrom the UAE, I think, or Dubai or something a week ago.

11:16SPEAKER- Or a few, like several days ago.

11:18SPEAKER- Yeah, and I think they just wanted to avoid

11:22SPEAKERany early, anything going out early.

11:24SPEAKER- That's exactly my feeling is that I don't think,

11:27SPEAKER'cause a lot of people were like, oh, is it coming in hot?

11:29SPEAKERIs it gonna be broken on launch day?

11:32SPEAKEREspecially with the delay from last year,

11:34SPEAKER'cause this thing is supposedly it was gonna ship last fall.

11:36SPEAKER- Yeah.

11:37SPEAKER- Right, and for how bad like switch emulation has gotten

11:40SPEAKERand how compromised that system became within its lifespan,

11:43SPEAKERI wonder if they were just very skittish

11:45SPEAKERabout wanting to make sure this thing was locked down

11:48SPEAKERas much as possible until literal launch day.

11:51SPEAKER- Well, I also think that they were,

11:54SPEAKERI almost wonder if the thing they were worried about

11:56SPEAKERis the Wii U problem where people thought the Wii U

11:59SPEAKERwas an upgrade for the Wii.

12:00SPEAKERLike I think like you buy the tablet to go with your Wii.

12:02SPEAKER- Right.

12:04SPEAKER- 'Cause like anecdotally talking to people

12:07SPEAKERthat are not gamers but that ended up with switches

12:10SPEAKERbecause of pandemic stuff and Animal Crossing

12:11SPEAKERand all the things that we did weird in 2020 and 2022,

12:17SPEAKERlike people who are games adjacent but don't really play

12:21SPEAKERgames had questions about that.

12:23SPEAKERLike my wife was like, "Hey, I can play the new Mario Kart

12:26SPEAKERon my Switch, right, on my OLED Switch."

12:28SPEAKERI was like, "Oh no, hun, that's not gonna work."

12:32SPEAKERSo yeah, I got it home, I set it up.

12:35SPEAKERThe system update went really fast.

12:39SPEAKERI had a little bit of trouble getting the dock to work.

12:41SPEAKERSo it has a new power brick.

12:43SPEAKERAnd if you plug an old Switch power brick

12:45SPEAKERinto the new Switch power brick,

12:46SPEAKEReven though they're both USB-C,

12:48SPEAKERthe dock just doesn't turn on your TV at all

12:51SPEAKERwhen you drop the Switch in.

12:52SPEAKER- Sorry, you're saying if you plug the new dock

12:54SPEAKERinto the old brick, is that what you're saying?

12:55SPEAKER- Yeah, I know, like I wouldn't expect that

12:58SPEAKERexcept for the power brick for my Switch

12:59SPEAKERis way back behind the TV and I have to move the whole thing

13:01SPEAKERout off the wall and it's pained.

13:03SPEAKER- I mean, I think the output on the old brick

13:05SPEAKERis dramatically lower.

13:06SPEAKER- It's 29 watts versus I think 60 or something.

13:08SPEAKER- So people on the Discord did some testing already

13:11SPEAKERwith the ones they've gotten their hands on.

13:13SPEAKERIt's a 60 watt brick and some people said they checked

13:16SPEAKERlike what kind of power is coming out of it

13:18SPEAKERand that it's like standard spec USB PD power delivery.

13:21SPEAKER- Okay, so that means I can plug in my like iPad

13:23SPEAKER60 watt brick and it'll go.

13:25SPEAKER- Yes, or it sounds like you can travel with this thing

13:27SPEAKERand use it to also power your laptop or whatever.

13:29SPEAKER- Oh, that's nice.

13:30SPEAKER- Presumably.

13:31SPEAKERI think, I mean, don't quote me on that,

13:33SPEAKERbut that seems like the early word.

13:35SPEAKER- I wonder what my Steam Deck brick is.

13:38SPEAKER- I mean, it's good to know that thing is PD

13:40SPEAKERbecause like I swear to God, eventually I'm just gonna buy

13:43SPEAKERone of these like nice big gallium nitride like three

13:46SPEAKERor four port, a hundred watt chargers.

13:49SPEAKERAnd then you could just use that for your Switch.

13:51SPEAKER- So the Steam Deck's 45 watts.

13:53SPEAKERSo that means this will do pretty much everything.

13:55SPEAKER- Okay, that's good.

13:57SPEAKER- The problem with the first one was that it was USB PD,

14:00SPEAKERbut it only worked at 29.

14:02SPEAKERThe Switch only accepted 29 watts or base 500, half a watt.

14:08SPEAKER- Right, like it was weird and custom, right?

14:11SPEAKER- Yeah, well, there was just no finding

14:14SPEAKERthe least common denominator if you didn't,

14:16SPEAKERif your charger didn't support 29 watts

14:18SPEAKERwas really challenging as I recall.

14:20SPEAKER- Yeah, it's gonna take some time to, you know,

14:22SPEAKERwe should probably caveat like everything we say here

14:24SPEAKERabout power and specs and stuff, like probably take

14:27SPEAKERa few days for that stuff to really get figured out

14:29SPEAKERlike definitively.

14:31SPEAKER- Yeah, and as far as I know, I don't think there's a,

14:33SPEAKERI don't think there's a DF post yet about like

14:36SPEAKERwith the grim details about how everything works yet either.

14:39SPEAKER- I've been following John Lindemann.

14:41SPEAKERHe's been posting a bunch about various things.

14:43SPEAKERThere's a couple of tidbits in here from him

14:45SPEAKERthat he's discovered, but yeah, I think they're,

14:48SPEAKERthey're in the same boat as everybody else.

14:49SPEAKERThey just got their hands on it.

14:51SPEAKER- Yeah, so the bummer for me was that,

14:53SPEAKERso I got a Mario Kart bundle and when I plugged it in,

14:57SPEAKERit apparently it seems like from talking to people

15:00SPEAKERon Blue Sky, there's two types of Mario Kart bundles.

15:02SPEAKERThere's one that has a code in the box

15:04SPEAKERand one that the game is just tied to the hardware.

15:07SPEAKER- Wait, what?

15:08SPEAKER- And is there any way to know which one you're getting?

15:11SPEAKER- I don't know.

15:12SPEAKER- Bad?

15:14SPEAKERSucks.

15:15SPEAKER- Well, I mean, my assumption is they made,

15:17SPEAKERit's because they've been manufacturing for a long time.

15:19SPEAKERThey had the opportunity to just say, "Hey, here we go."

15:22SPEAKER- I mean, that's not unheard of.

15:23SPEAKERI want to say, what was the XBLA pack-in with the 360?

15:27SPEAKERIt was Hexac HD, right?

15:29SPEAKER- Hexac HD, yeah.

15:30SPEAKER- If I'm not mistaken, that was a similar situation.

15:33SPEAKERIf you didn't have a code for that game,

15:35SPEAKERit was just tied to your console.

15:37SPEAKER- I thought you got that if you had a hard drive attached

15:39SPEAKERto your Xbox 360.

15:39SPEAKER- That might be something like that.

15:41SPEAKERI can't remember, but.

15:43SPEAKER- Anyway.

15:45SPEAKER- The problem there is that what happens

15:47SPEAKERif you get an OLED Switch 2 in three years

15:49SPEAKERand you had one of the ones where the game

15:51SPEAKERis just tied to your old Switch?

15:53SPEAKER- So once you, when you activate it, it says,

15:55SPEAKER"Hey, once you press the download button for this,

15:58SPEAKER"it's going to need to hook it up to the account

15:59SPEAKER"that you're logged in permanently."

16:01SPEAKER- Oh, so it's licensing your account either way,

16:02SPEAKERwhether it's code or, okay.

16:03SPEAKER- It's the same as typing in a code.

16:05SPEAKER- Okay, that's fine.

16:06SPEAKERBut yeah, so, but the problem was I was like,

16:09SPEAKERI was on the way home.

16:10SPEAKERWe were in the Lyft, went back to the office to grab cars

16:13SPEAKERand pack up our stuff from work that day.

16:15SPEAKERAnd I was watching people on the East Coast be like,

16:18SPEAKER"Oh man, I'm already playing, this is awesome."

16:19SPEAKERI was like, "Hell yeah, I'm gonna be able to go home,

16:20SPEAKER"download this, downloads are going fast.

16:22SPEAKER"The servers are holding up, this is gonna be fantastic."

16:25SPEAKERAnd I got home and I did the update

16:27SPEAKERand I went to the store to download the game

16:28SPEAKERand it was like, yo, it was like,

16:30SPEAKER"Hey, do you want to download the game?"

16:31SPEAKERI was like, "Yes, yes, I do want to download the game.

16:32SPEAKER"Do you want to attach your account?"

16:33SPEAKER"Yes, yes, I do."

16:36SPEAKERGame's not released yet, you can't play it, I'm sorry.

16:38SPEAKER- What time was that here?

16:40SPEAKER- 10 o'clock.

16:40SPEAKER- Okay, so, wow, so they were actually staggering it

16:43SPEAKERby time zone?

16:44SPEAKER- I don't know, I think the thing is the people

16:46SPEAKERwho were able to play had the codes,

16:48SPEAKERwhich probably bypassed the time zone requirement

16:50SPEAKERand the download attached to the hardware did not.

16:53SPEAKER- Wait, so that would mean people on the East Coast

16:56SPEAKERwith the hardware attached-

16:57SPEAKER- Also got screwed, yeah.

16:58SPEAKER- Didn't get to play until 3 a.m.?

17:00SPEAKER- Yeah, 'cause I tried changing the time zone

17:01SPEAKERand that didn't do anything.

17:02SPEAKER- Wow, that really sucks.

17:03SPEAKER- Yeah, I was, I would have been fairly raw

17:05SPEAKERif I was on the East Coast, it wasn't that bad.

17:08SPEAKERSo anyway, I thought, look, shout out to Johnny Vignacchi,

17:13SPEAKERI think Vignacchi was just trying to force me

17:14SPEAKERto buy that Nintendo Switch 2 Tour app,

17:19SPEAKER'cause that's what I ended up doing

17:20SPEAKERand I ended up flexing around with that for a while.

17:21SPEAKERSo congratulations, Nintendo, you got,

17:23SPEAKERI used my gold coins, so I paid $3 for the $10 Switch 2 Tour

17:28SPEAKERthat should have been packed in with the thing.

17:30SPEAKER- Yeah, anything, there's nothing feature-wise new

17:34SPEAKERabout the dock, right?

17:34SPEAKERIt does have an ethernet port built in, right?

17:37SPEAKER- So the Switch OLED has an ethernet port built in as well.

17:40SPEAKERIt has, it seems to have some, like, it seems beefier,

17:44SPEAKERlike the side of it that faces the back

17:47SPEAKERis like rounded and big.

17:48SPEAKER- Yeah, there's a fan in there.

17:50SPEAKER- Yeah, and I was gonna say,

17:51SPEAKERI think it has active cooling, is it?

17:53SPEAKER- Okay, but there's not like extra ports or anything, right?

17:55SPEAKERIt's basically the same as like an OLED dock.

17:57SPEAKER- I don't, I think it's actually,

17:59SPEAKERI think there was one internal,

18:01SPEAKERone port under the cover on the Switch 1 dock.

18:04SPEAKER- I don't think that's there anymore.

18:05SPEAKER- Oh. - I think that's gone now.

18:07SPEAKER- Interesting. - It has two ports

18:08SPEAKERon the front though.

18:09SPEAKERSo I think you end up with the same number of ports.

18:11SPEAKERIt used to be one in the back, one in the front,

18:12SPEAKERand now it's two in the front.

18:14SPEAKER- I see.

18:14SPEAKER- And that's where you plug in your webcam, presumably,

18:17SPEAKERif you're gonna do the game, game,

18:20SPEAKERthe video chat stuff, yeah.

18:23SPEAKER- Are the external ports USB-A still?

18:25SPEAKER- They're USB-A still, yeah. - Really?

18:27SPEAKER- Yeah, and well, but I think

18:29SPEAKERthat's a backwards compatibility option thing

18:31SPEAKERbecause the way you pair Switch Pro controllers with it

18:34SPEAKERis by plugging them in with your old Nintendo USB-C

18:37SPEAKERto USB-A cable. - That's fine.

18:39SPEAKERAdapters are cheap.

18:40SPEAKER- Yeah, and like cables, honestly, cables are cheap.

18:43SPEAKER- Yeah.

18:45SPEAKER- Also, the Nintendo store downtown,

18:47SPEAKERI've been to the Nintendo World Store in New York.

18:50SPEAKERThey had, we were only allowed to buy Switches

18:54SPEAKER'cause it's launch day.

18:55SPEAKERYou couldn't go around and browse and buy other stuff.

18:57SPEAKERIt's a good thing 'cause I was primed

18:59SPEAKERto buy some merch last night, and they have a wide variety

19:03SPEAKERof tasteful merch that doesn't necessarily,

19:06SPEAKERthey have normal t-shirts with Mario and shit on 'em,

19:09SPEAKERbut then they also had some really fucking good cardigans

19:13SPEAKERthat are just low-key Zelda cardigans and stuff like that,

19:16SPEAKERand it was very nice.

19:17SPEAKER- Did you peep any coffee mugs?

19:19SPEAKER- They had coffee mugs.

19:21SPEAKERThey had entire plate sets with place mats

19:24SPEAKERand the whole thing.

19:25SPEAKER- That might be a little much for me.

19:26SPEAKER- They were pretty good, they looked like they were handmade.

19:29SPEAKERThey looked, yeah.

19:31SPEAKERAnyway, it was, I'm gonna go back.

19:33SPEAKERI'm gonna take the kiddo back next week sometime

19:35SPEAKERwhen it's died down a little bit, hopefully.

19:38SPEAKERBut yeah, should we talk about hardware a little bit?

19:39SPEAKER- Yeah, sure.

19:42SPEAKER- It feels much sturdier than my Switch One does

19:44SPEAKERafter eight years of regular use.

19:46SPEAKER- I've seen that comment over and over.

19:48SPEAKERLike, does that, you just mean like fit

19:49SPEAKERand finish build quality?

19:50SPEAKERLike it just feels like literally assembled more tightly or?

19:53SPEAKER- I mean-

19:54SPEAKER- Also, can you hold it up right now?

19:55SPEAKER'Cause this is still, this is the closest I will have ever

19:57SPEAKERcome to seeing Switch Two in person as of right now.

20:00SPEAKER- The big thing is even from the very first day,

20:03SPEAKERthe metal to plastic join where the Switch Joy-Cons

20:09SPEAKERconnected to the main body of the console

20:11SPEAKERalways felt wobbly.

20:14SPEAKER- On the Switch One, yes.

20:15SPEAKER- Yeah, on the Switch One.

20:17SPEAKERThese move a tiny, tiny bit and like you can force them off

20:20SPEAKERif you really wrench it.

20:22SPEAKER- Oh, really?

20:22SPEAKER- Well, 'cause it's just magnets.

20:23SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, so did you just pull it without hitting

20:25SPEAKERthe release?

20:26SPEAKER- I just pulled it without hitting the release.

20:28SPEAKER- I heard a little bit of effort in your voice

20:29SPEAKERwhen you did that.

20:30SPEAKER- But yeah, I like, oh, you can see tendons on my forearms

20:36SPEAKERwhen I do that.

20:36SPEAKER- Now, when you do that, did the magnets remain

20:40SPEAKERkind of like electrically active to the point

20:42SPEAKERthat it'll just re-magnetize if you push it near again?

20:44SPEAKER- I don't think the magnets are electrically active magnets.

20:47SPEAKER- Or sorry, I know they're not electromagnets as such.

20:50SPEAKERWhat I, you know, I guess they've never have actually

20:52SPEAKERconfirmed how this technology works,

20:54SPEAKERbut the rumor was that they're whatever that type

20:57SPEAKERof magnet is where you just supply a jolt of current

20:59SPEAKERand it makes them active.

21:01SPEAKER- I don't think that that's the case.

21:02SPEAKERI think they're just magnets.

21:04SPEAKER- Oh, really?

21:04SPEAKER- I think they're just strong-ass magnets.

21:06SPEAKER- So how does the release work then?

21:08SPEAKER- So the release is a mechanical lever that pushes,

21:12SPEAKERcan you see the little post coming out there?

21:14SPEAKER- Oh, does that just put physically or mechanically push

21:16SPEAKERthe Joy-Con off enough that it separates the magnetism or?

21:19SPEAKER- Yeah, I believe that that's the case.

21:20SPEAKER- Oh, really?

21:21SPEAKER- So see the little-

21:22SPEAKER- It just pushes it off far enough that it like pops loose

21:25SPEAKERat the top and then the bottom tilts off

21:27SPEAKERand it just falls out.

21:28SPEAKER- Just far enough that you can pull it off easily.

21:30SPEAKER- Yeah, like it's a, I do the hard thing

21:32SPEAKERwhen you can do the easy thing.

21:33SPEAKER- Sure, that's hilarious after all those rumors

21:35SPEAKERabout exotic magnets in there.

21:37SPEAKER- Well, so the other, and it may be that they're smart

21:40SPEAKERmagnets or something, but also you can do things

21:42SPEAKERlike put it on backwards.

21:44SPEAKERSo that's the back of the switch with the controller

21:48SPEAKERon upside down and backwards facing away.

21:50SPEAKERYou can switch them, you can put them on the opposite sides.

21:54SPEAKER- Like essentially invert the screen.

21:55SPEAKER- And essentially invert the screen.

21:57SPEAKERYou can put them on upside down facing the wrong way.

22:00SPEAKERLike you can do all sorts of things.

22:02SPEAKERThe first thing I did was the classic first Nintendo switch

22:06SPEAKERmove and put the frigging Joy-Con on upside down

22:10SPEAKERand I just popped it right off and it was fine.

22:13SPEAKERIt was mechanical force.

22:15SPEAKER- Yeah, I heard the onboarding immediately comes up

22:17SPEAKERwith an infographic showing you which way is up on the screen

22:20SPEAKERjust in case you did that. - It does, yeah.

22:22SPEAKERAlso during that Switch 2 tour,

22:24SPEAKERthere's a thing that shows you how the Joy-Con magnet.

22:26SPEAKERSo they, the cool thing about the Switch 2 tour

22:29SPEAKERfor people like you and me is that-

22:30SPEAKER- Welcome tour, right?

22:32SPEAKERYou're talking about welcome tour.

22:33SPEAKER- The welcome tour, yeah, yeah.

22:34SPEAKERIs that they give you like blow ups of,

22:37SPEAKERlook, you walk around, you have to click on all the buttons

22:40SPEAKERand all the plugs and all the stuff,

22:43SPEAKERwhich is kind of BS and takes a long time.

22:45SPEAKERBut then you get to take quizzes where it's like,

22:47SPEAKERhey, the Joy-Cons are held on with magnets.

22:50SPEAKERAre the magnets in the console, the Joy-Cons or both?

22:55SPEAKERAnd it's like, they're in the console.

22:58SPEAKER- Gotta pass a test to receive a license

23:00SPEAKERto operate your Switch 2.

23:02SPEAKER- Yeah, but then once you get past the different points,

23:05SPEAKERyou get to go inside the Switch

23:06SPEAKERand see the boards and all that stuff.

23:07SPEAKERSo it's pretty cool.

23:08SPEAKER- All right.

23:09SPEAKER- They show, they have like physical video ways

23:14SPEAKERto show how the new HG Rumble 2 stuff works.

23:17SPEAKERAnd for the right kind of nerd, it's surprisingly good.

23:22SPEAKERMy daughter ended up playing the,

23:24SPEAKERthere's a bunch of demo games

23:25SPEAKERthat show you how to use the different new things.

23:27SPEAKERLike you shake maracas and feel the little pellets

23:31SPEAKERinside the maracas bouncing around inside the Joy-Cons.

23:34SPEAKERYou use the mouse mode and you have to move your cursor

23:39SPEAKERto avoid a bunch of falling balls.

23:41SPEAKERAnd my daughter was like,

23:42SPEAKERthis was the best game she'd ever played.

23:44SPEAKERShe played it for like 30 minutes last time.

23:45SPEAKER- Wow. - For Mario Kart to be downloadable.

23:47SPEAKER- All right.

23:49SPEAKER- They also highlight things like the 120 Hertz mode.

23:52SPEAKERSo if you're not hooked up to 120 Hertz TV,

23:54SPEAKERit's like, hey, you got to take this out of the dock

23:55SPEAKERand then do it over here.

23:56SPEAKER'Cause there's your 60 Hertz garbage TV that you have

23:58SPEAKERisn't gonna do what you want.

24:02SPEAKERIt's motion blur, on that note,

24:05SPEAKERthey have motion blur turned on on everything,

24:07SPEAKERincluding the high refresh rate modes,

24:09SPEAKERwhich makes me a little bit crazy, but whatever.

24:12SPEAKER- At 120 Hertz, that sucks.

24:13SPEAKER- It feels goofy.

24:14SPEAKER- At 160, that arguably sucks.

24:16SPEAKERBut okay, screen, overall.

24:17SPEAKER- Yeah. - Good?

24:18SPEAKER- It's good, it's not, you know,

24:20SPEAKERthe color reproduction and the black levels

24:22SPEAKERand all that stuff are not, it's really good for an LCD.

24:25SPEAKERIt doesn't match the OLED switch mid-cycle refresh.

24:29SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, that's to be expected, I guess.

24:31SPEAKER- Not a surprise.

24:33SPEAKER- Can we assume there's no amount of local dimming

24:35SPEAKERgoing on here, probably?

24:36SPEAKERI would assume in a screen that small, there's not.

24:38SPEAKER- I don't think so.

24:40SPEAKERLike, I was not unhappy with the black levels.

24:42SPEAKERI haven't played anything that has a lot

24:44SPEAKERof really dark areas yet, though.

24:45SPEAKER- Okay, I bet it gets nice and bright, though.

24:47SPEAKER- It is, I played, I took it outside this morning

24:49SPEAKERwhen we were watching a friend's dog

24:50SPEAKERand I went outside this morning with coffee

24:52SPEAKERto let the dog poop.

24:53SPEAKERAnd I, like a maniac, carried the Switch 2 out there

24:56SPEAKERand sat in the full-ass sun playing Mario Kart.

25:00SPEAKER- Of course. - And it was fine.

25:01SPEAKER- Okay, 'cause I mean, that is still the one thing

25:03SPEAKERLCDs have over OLED is brightness.

25:06SPEAKER- Well, but it's interesting.

25:07SPEAKERSo I'm comparing, I was comparing it to the launch Switch 1

25:12SPEAKERand that launch Switch 1 is not that bright anymore.

25:14SPEAKERI don't know if it was never that bright

25:16SPEAKERor if it's not that bright anymore.

25:17SPEAKER- I think it never was.

25:18SPEAKERI think the Switch 1, the launch Switch 1 screen

25:21SPEAKERis just not great.

25:22SPEAKER- It predates the thousand-nit LCD screens

25:25SPEAKERof the modern era. - Yes, very much.

25:28SPEAKER- Yeah, but the screens, it looks really nice.

25:31SPEAKERIt's much bigger, it's like noticeably bigger.

25:33SPEAKER- Even than an OLED? - Even than an OLED.

25:35SPEAKER- Yeah, that's great for me coming from a Switch 1,

25:38SPEAKERespecially where my eyes are not great at this point.

25:43SPEAKERHard to see small things up close.

25:45SPEAKER- Well, the thing I'll say is that coming,

25:47SPEAKERlike if I was going from an OLED to this,

25:49SPEAKERI'd be a little, it would be kind of lateral.

25:52SPEAKERGoing from the launch Switch 1,

25:53SPEAKERwhich is the one I've used as my Switch

25:54SPEAKERfor the last eight years, it feels like a real,

25:57SPEAKERlike this feels like a substantial MIDI upgrade.

25:59SPEAKER- Yeah, that sounds very exciting to me.

26:02SPEAKERPixel density on the screen, it's affordable.

26:05SPEAKER- It's fine.

26:06SPEAKERI've spent a lot of time with the Steam Deck lately.

26:08SPEAKERI've also been testing some of the new Legion Go's

26:11SPEAKERfor PC World that are the Steam OS,

26:15SPEAKERthe first non-valve Steam OS handhelds.

26:18SPEAKERIt feels very much like the Legion Go.

26:20SPEAKERThat has a bigger screen, it's a 1080p screen, I believe.

26:22SPEAKERAnd it's, I don't feel,

26:28SPEAKERlike it's hard to say,

26:29SPEAKERit doesn't feel like not enough pixels.

26:31SPEAKERIt doesn't feel, like I don't know

26:33SPEAKERif it feels like too many pixels

26:34SPEAKER'cause you can't adjust the resolution on this thing, right?

26:36SPEAKERSo, but it feels good.

26:37SPEAKERAnd like small detail was visible.

26:40SPEAKERI felt it's playing Breath of the Wild,

26:45SPEAKERlike I was seeing detail

26:46SPEAKERthat I don't think I would have seen on the Switch 1,

26:47SPEAKERbut it's hard to say.

26:48SPEAKER- Yeah, did you do a dead pixel check?

26:51SPEAKER- I did do a dead pixel check, it's fine.

26:54SPEAKER- Feels like LCDs have gotten way better about that.

26:56SPEAKER- I think that that's a problem from like 10 years ago

26:58SPEAKERat this point for the most part,

26:59SPEAKERunless you're buying something cheap.

27:00SPEAKER- Either quality control has gotten better or they're,

27:02SPEAKERI mean, or I guess quality control would mean

27:04SPEAKERthat they are only,

27:05SPEAKERthat they are trashing the ones that don't stand up.

27:09SPEAKER- Or they're just turning off the like,

27:11SPEAKER'cause the thing that, this pixel density,

27:13SPEAKERI don't think I'm gonna notice a dead pixel.

27:15SPEAKERI will absolutely notice a stuck pixel on green or blue.

27:17SPEAKER- Stuck is maybe worse than dead at this point.

27:19SPEAKER- And I think this is a place where like machine learning

27:22SPEAKERand our camera fidelity on the QA tests for screens

27:28SPEAKERis probably much better than it was a decade ago.

27:30SPEAKER- Yeah.

27:31SPEAKER- It's still uncomfortable to hold.

27:33SPEAKER- Yeah, sorry, last thing I'll say about screen real quick,

27:35SPEAKERjust since we're in early days

27:36SPEAKERand they didn't send it out for teardowns and stuff,

27:38SPEAKERI will be, I'll be curious to see

27:40SPEAKERwhen people start tearing them down frequently,

27:42SPEAKERlike did they all use the same screen

27:44SPEAKERor they're two screen suppliers?

27:46SPEAKERLike, you know, the more obsessive parts of the internet,

27:49SPEAKERare they going to identify like, you know,

27:51SPEAKERyou want the Samsung screen,

27:52SPEAKERnot the LG screen or something like that?

27:54SPEAKER- Yeah.

27:55SPEAKER- It's always, I'm always curious about like

27:56SPEAKERwhat parts are in these things, but that's me.

27:58SPEAKER- I try not to worry about that stuff too much

28:00SPEAKER'cause it'll make me crazy.

28:01SPEAKER- Of course, that's the right thing to do.

28:03SPEAKER- I can't help myself.

28:05SPEAKER- But yeah, I thought it was interesting

28:06SPEAKERthat they called out the 120 hertz panel

28:08SPEAKERin that Switch Store.

28:10SPEAKERI'm, having spent some time with that Switch Store thing,

28:13SPEAKERI'm shocked they didn't just put it on all the devices.

28:15SPEAKER- Yeah, it's, I mean, it's only 10 bucks,

28:17SPEAKERit's not that much, but it really,

28:19SPEAKERfor how tech demo-y this thing is,

28:23SPEAKERand especially contrasted against Asteros Playroom

28:26SPEAKERon the PS5, like that was a whole ass game for free.

28:29SPEAKER- And like, it's a game that's designed

28:32SPEAKERto make you feel good about spending $500 on a new thing.

28:35SPEAKER- Yeah, and it's also a game that is like laser targeted

28:38SPEAKERat people's nostalgia and like brand affinity

28:40SPEAKERfor the PlayStation, you know, like.

28:42SPEAKER- Yeah, this is less that,

28:43SPEAKERthere's no like Mario hanging out in this thing.

28:45SPEAKER- What I mean is like, arguably, I would not be shocked

28:48SPEAKERif Asteros Playroom like quietly kind of primed people

28:51SPEAKERto maybe buy more stuff 'cause it was such a fun intro

28:55SPEAKERto the PS5 in general that Nintendo doesn't need that,

28:58SPEAKERthey're gonna sell things as fast as they can make them.

29:00SPEAKER- Yeah, and like, look, if there'd been a way to buy

29:02SPEAKERApe Escape when I played that Asteros Playroom game,

29:04SPEAKERI would have absolutely gone out

29:05SPEAKERand bought Ape Escape that moment.

29:07SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway, sorry, so you were saying

29:09SPEAKERit's still a bit unwieldy at all?

29:11SPEAKER- So after using a lot of the PC handhelds

29:14SPEAKERthat have like the more contoured grips

29:16SPEAKERthat are designed to like give you something to hold on to,

29:20SPEAKERit feels a little like the flat design is a little hard.

29:25SPEAKERHonestly, what I've been doing while I've been playing it

29:26SPEAKERon my lap is breaking the Joy-Cons off

29:30SPEAKERand putting the kickstand, the new kickstand is fantastic

29:33SPEAKER'cause it goes all the way back like a surface kickstand.

29:36SPEAKERSo I just rest that up on my legs

29:38SPEAKERand then have the Joy-Cons separate

29:39SPEAKERso I'm not carrying the weight of the screen on my hand.

29:41SPEAKER- Wow, so it'll actually balance

29:42SPEAKERon the kickstand on your lap?

29:44SPEAKER- Yeah, 'cause the kickstand goes all the way across now,

29:46SPEAKERit's not just that one little like two inch wide thing

29:49SPEAKERlike it was before.

29:51SPEAKERAnd the problem, actually, it's funny

29:54SPEAKER'cause like Mario Kart is fine holding it

29:56SPEAKER'cause I'm using both hands fully

29:57SPEAKERand my fingers are on the buttons on the right side.

30:00SPEAKERWhen I was playing Zelda, what ends up happening

30:03SPEAKERis that my fingers end up holding the entire weight

30:05SPEAKERof the device with my left hand

30:07SPEAKER'cause in order to hold the right Joy-Con stick,

30:11SPEAKERwhich is halfway down the Joy-Con,

30:14SPEAKERyou end up not carrying any of the weight at all

30:17SPEAKERon your right hand.

30:18SPEAKERIt ends up being really uncomfortable for me.

30:20SPEAKER- That's a shame.

30:21SPEAKERYeah, even with the Switch 1, I got to the point

30:23SPEAKERwhere I would only play it handheld like balanced

30:26SPEAKERon like a pillow on my lap or like on an airplane tray table

30:29SPEAKERor something that would bear the weight.

30:30SPEAKER- Well, we bought, I bought them for everybody

30:33SPEAKER'cause I didn't want my daughter to mess up her hands either

30:35SPEAKERbut like we bought those clip-on grip things

30:39SPEAKERthat give you that same kind of textile feel

30:42SPEAKERand that solves the problem.

30:44SPEAKERAnd it's not like they're like 10 bucks or 20 bucks usually,

30:47SPEAKERso it's not like they're expensive.

30:48SPEAKERBut I still, having used the handhelds

30:52SPEAKERthat have the symmetrical stick placement,

30:54SPEAKERI would much rather have the two sticks

30:56SPEAKEReven with each other on the top of the thing

30:58SPEAKERand have the two D-pad buttons lower,

31:00SPEAKERbut whatever, here we are.

31:02SPEAKER- Well, but I mean, they want to maintain

31:04SPEAKERthat single Joy-Con controller orientation.

31:08SPEAKER- Yeah, but it doesn't- - They do that.

31:10SPEAKER- I know, but it's, anyway, I think that's goofy.

31:14SPEAKERThey should just resign themselves

31:16SPEAKERto selling a whole bunch of $90 game pads,

31:18SPEAKERbut we'll talk about that in a minute.

31:19SPEAKER- Probably, I mean, I do know small children

31:21SPEAKERthat use those small Joy-Cons as controllers.

31:24SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

31:26SPEAKERThe mouse is surprisingly good.

31:28SPEAKER- Called it, people were so skeptical.

31:31SPEAKERI'm not saying you were,

31:31SPEAKERbut a lot of people were so down on the mice

31:34SPEAKERand I was like, they're gonna be better than you think.

31:37SPEAKER- They talk about this in the Switch 2 Welcome Tour 2,

31:41SPEAKERbut they talk about how incredibly low resolution is

31:43SPEAKERand how fast it updates and all that.

31:45SPEAKERI used it on my shorts leg, I used it on my skin.

31:49SPEAKER- Called that.

31:50SPEAKER- I used it on the arm of my leather chair.

31:53SPEAKERI used it on the couch cushion.

31:55SPEAKERI used it on the Persian rug.

31:58SPEAKERI used it on the hardwood floor.

31:59SPEAKER- Man, comprehensive.

32:01SPEAKER- It worked everywhere.

32:02SPEAKER- Great, does it glide well?

32:04SPEAKER- So if you use the thing that has the wristband,

32:08SPEAKERthe little Joy-Con holder thing.

32:11SPEAKERSo the new ones are, you kind of just tilt them in

32:15SPEAKERand they just barely clip in.

32:16SPEAKERThey're much less, like it doesn't have

32:18SPEAKERthe whole fiddly slide mechanisms before.

32:22SPEAKERThey have guides on the surface that faces down.

32:26SPEAKERAnd yeah, it's pretty good.

32:27SPEAKERLike I don't think there's an option actually,

32:30SPEAKERI don't think there's like a right click option.

32:31SPEAKERI think it's only move the cursor

32:33SPEAKERand then hit the R button to left click.

32:37SPEAKERBut yeah, like I said, there's a handful of mini games

32:41SPEAKERin that Welcome Tour that are like, move the mouse,

32:45SPEAKERmove the mouse to dodge things,

32:46SPEAKERmove the mouse to collect things.

32:48SPEAKERAnd it gets kind of frenetic and yeah, it was pretty good.

32:54SPEAKERIt's better than I expected.

32:56SPEAKERI can't imagine, like I think, here's the thing,

33:00SPEAKERlike when Metroid comes out and I'm like,

33:02SPEAKERoh, here's a game I want to use the mouse on.

33:04SPEAKERA, if they let me plug in a regular mouse

33:07SPEAKERand just use that, I'm probably gonna do that,

33:08SPEAKERwhich I'm sure they won't do.

33:09SPEAKER- No, it's confirmed they will.

33:11SPEAKER- Oh, they will.

33:11SPEAKER- It may be, let me caveat that by saying

33:14SPEAKERthat may be supported on a game by game basis,

33:17SPEAKERbut you absolutely can plug a USB mouse into this thing for,

33:22SPEAKERI want to say it was Nobunaga's ambition

33:24SPEAKERthat they showed that off in a video demo

33:26SPEAKERthat came out a week or two ago.

33:28SPEAKERBut like Civilization 7 also supports mouse control on here.

33:30SPEAKERSo I'm waiting to see if you can also use

33:32SPEAKERan external mouse for that.

33:33SPEAKERLike if it's the situation that any game with mouse controls

33:36SPEAKERwill just take a USB mouse in addition to the built-in one,

33:39SPEAKERthen that's great.

33:40SPEAKER- That is fantastic.

33:41SPEAKER- It's certainly possible that it could be the type of thing

33:43SPEAKERwhere like Nobunaga and Civ will do it,

33:45SPEAKERbut Metroid will not 'cause they didn't build support

33:47SPEAKERin the Metroid, I don't know.

33:49SPEAKERBut it is confirmed that USB mice will work.

33:51SPEAKERAnd I assume like this Logitech wireless

33:54SPEAKERthat has a USB 2.4 gigahertz dongle,

33:57SPEAKERI would assume even that would work.

33:59SPEAKER- Yeah, that sounds great.

34:00SPEAKER- That just presents to the host as a wired mouse, right?

34:04SPEAKER- Yeah.

34:05SPEAKER- So I might actually, I might take my very nice gaming mouse

34:07SPEAKERfrom my PC and play Metroid in the living room with it.

34:10SPEAKER- That sounds fabulous.

34:11SPEAKER- Maybe, I don't know.

34:12SPEAKER- What I was gonna say is I'm definitely gonna put a mouse

34:14SPEAKERpad on my chair arm and do like a hard mouse pad.

34:17SPEAKER- Like a permanent one or just-

34:19SPEAKER- No, just like put a little tray there or something.

34:22SPEAKER- I was envisioning you like mounting it on there

34:24SPEAKERwith rubber cement or something.

34:25SPEAKER- No, no, no, that's, no, I'm not gonna ruin my chair.

34:29SPEAKERLet's see, the kickstand is good.

34:30SPEAKERWe talked about that already.

34:31SPEAKERThe new HD rumble stuff is kind of amazing.

34:34SPEAKER- I've actually seen more people say that than I expected.

34:37SPEAKER- Like the last one, I remember being impressed

34:39SPEAKERby the last one and then like not a ton of games used

34:42SPEAKERto mostly first party stuff, but they have demos

34:46SPEAKERin the Switch Welcome Tour again.

34:48SPEAKERLike there's one where you're shaking maracas

34:50SPEAKERand there's a bunch of little pellets in

34:51SPEAKERand then you can switch it to have one hard ball

34:53SPEAKERand you can absolutely, it feels like there's,

34:56SPEAKERit feels wildly different.

34:58SPEAKERThere's another demo where it makes a bunch of sound

35:01SPEAKERwhere it like plays like a speaker and like it was making

35:05SPEAKERlike Mario coin pickup noises and stuff like that.

35:08SPEAKERAnd it sounded amazing, like one up noises

35:10SPEAKERand all that kind of stuff.

35:11SPEAKER- Wait, I'm sorry, the-

35:12SPEAKER- Yeah, out of the rumble.

35:13SPEAKER- Motors were making coin sounds?

35:15SPEAKER- So they're not motors, this is the thing you learned

35:17SPEAKERby playing the Welcome Tour, is it's a magnet

35:20SPEAKERthat's on a linear shaft and they use electromagnets

35:23SPEAKERto bounce it back and forth so they can make it vibrate

35:25SPEAKERat a really high rate.

35:26SPEAKER- Oh, and like high precision patterns and stuff.

35:29SPEAKER- Uh-huh, and when you do that, it makes it makes,

35:32SPEAKERyou can make it make sound with it.

35:33SPEAKER- Oh, that's fucking crazy.

35:34SPEAKER- It was, it is, like the demo is literally

35:37SPEAKERlike you tapping the button.

35:39SPEAKER- Okay, that alone is gonna make me buy that Welcome Tour.

35:41SPEAKERThat sounds crazy, I have to experience that.

35:44SPEAKER- I can load it up and show you if you want.

35:46SPEAKERBut yeah, so like, but the sensation is much,

35:50SPEAKERis much, is impressive.

35:51SPEAKERLike you feel, it uses the, one of the places

35:54SPEAKERthat uses the rumble is when you're on like dirt

35:56SPEAKERand bumpy stuff on the, on Mario Kart.

36:00SPEAKERAnd it feels really good, it's really nice.

36:02SPEAKER- That's cool, I'm excited to check that out.

36:03SPEAKERSo real quick, since we're talking about hardware here,

36:06SPEAKERwe will get to Welcome Tour a little bit more in a minute,

36:08SPEAKERbut did you bump up it against any of the stuff

36:10SPEAKERin Welcome Tour that you didn't have the accessories for?

36:12SPEAKERBecause like some of the mini games,

36:14SPEAKERit sounds like you need to buy those like

36:15SPEAKERextra steering wheels and stuff.

36:17SPEAKER- I have not gotten that, I'm on, so it goes to,

36:21SPEAKERI've seen a gate that goes to area I or K, I think already,

36:26SPEAKERI'm only on area E.

36:27SPEAKER- I see, okay, so that's like, you know,

36:29SPEAKERany new console or hardware launch,

36:31SPEAKERthere's like a bevy of headlines that come out

36:33SPEAKERthat's like, oh, you know,

36:34SPEAKERthose consoles are catching on fire,

36:36SPEAKERor you have to buy this accessory to do this or whatever.

36:39SPEAKERSo that's one of the kind of breathless headlines

36:41SPEAKERabout Welcome Tour is that I think the number I saw was,

36:45SPEAKERyou need $95 worth of accessories

36:47SPEAKERto 100% every mini game in that thing.

36:50SPEAKERSome of the mini games rely on specific features

36:52SPEAKERof things like those steering wheel add-ons

36:54SPEAKERthat you just can't do if you don't have those.

36:56SPEAKER- Oh yeah, no, I didn't get to that point.

36:58SPEAKERI also didn't buy the steering wheel add-ons

37:00SPEAKERbecause every time I bought those, I've never used them.

37:02SPEAKER- Yep.

37:04SPEAKER- Okay, so here's some bad stuff.

37:06SPEAKER- All right.

37:07SPEAKER- When you play Mario Kart World, you know,

37:08SPEAKERyou have the lobby and you're like,

37:10SPEAKERhit the thing where you hit up on the D-pad

37:13SPEAKERand it's like, you can do a quick hit message.

37:15SPEAKER- Yes.

37:16SPEAKER- You can't say I'm using motion controls.

37:18SPEAKER- Oh, why not?

37:20SPEAKER- It's not one of the options.

37:22SPEAKER- Bummer, I guess.

37:23SPEAKER- I mean, that's been in there since the Wii.

37:26SPEAKERIt's been a time-honored way to show contempt

37:29SPEAKERfor your opponents in the pregame.

37:31SPEAKER- I see, okay, now I was like,

37:33SPEAKERwhy is it a big deal to communicate that now I get it?

37:36SPEAKER- Yeah, hey, I don't need to use a D-pad

37:39SPEAKERor an analog stick to beat you at this game.

37:41SPEAKER- Hey, I'm about to style on you

37:42SPEAKERwith the worst control option.

37:44SPEAKER- Yeah, exactly, and they've removed the toxicity.

37:49SPEAKER- Hey, look, they know their audience.

37:50SPEAKER- Uh-huh, they're doing a lot of audio processing with this

37:54SPEAKERjust in general, like they're using the additional hardware

37:56SPEAKERin the new GPU, CPU combo SOC in here.

38:01SPEAKERAnd they talk about this in the tour as well,

38:03SPEAKERbut like there's demos of noise canceling

38:06SPEAKERwhere you can record voice and it shows you,

38:08SPEAKERit plays back what the other people will hear

38:10SPEAKERwhen you're doing like the game chat stuff.

38:15SPEAKER- Okay, this is crazy.

38:16SPEAKERWelcome Tour sounds like way more technically oriented

38:18SPEAKERthan I expected.

38:19SPEAKER- It is clearly a marketing item

38:23SPEAKERthat also has a bunch of technical information, yeah.

38:25SPEAKER- That's wild 'cause Nintendo has normally steered away

38:27SPEAKERfrom that kind of thing.

38:29SPEAKERNot only do they not chase bleeding edge hardware anymore,

38:31SPEAKERbut they also like kind of go out of their way

38:33SPEAKERto obfuscate what's in the console

38:35SPEAKERor like they, I guess the way I like to think of it

38:37SPEAKERis that Nintendo likes to give the impression

38:39SPEAKERthat their games are powered by like pixie dust

38:42SPEAKERand unicorns inside the console, you know what I mean?

38:45SPEAKERLike the idea that there's like code and Silicon

38:48SPEAKERrunning inside a Nintendo console

38:49SPEAKERfeels a little weird sometimes.

38:51SPEAKER- This one, they actually even come in and say like,

38:57SPEAKERto make the HD rumble stuff work,

38:59SPEAKERwe had to both really isolate the things

39:03SPEAKERfrom making any other components vibrate

39:05SPEAKERand like have it really tied into the plastic

39:08SPEAKERof the controller.

39:09SPEAKERSo it transmits that feeling through to you

39:11SPEAKERwhen you're feeling it.

39:13SPEAKERLike they got into some,

39:14SPEAKERlike it's still a little bit obfuscated

39:16SPEAKERin that Nintendo way.

39:17SPEAKERThey, it's a mixture of, hey, here's some stuff

39:19SPEAKERthat's gonna make you feel good about buying the thing.

39:21SPEAKERHere's some cool, like a little bit of backend

39:23SPEAKERthat tells you how stuff works.

39:25SPEAKERAnd then, hey, here's some demos

39:28SPEAKERthat show you the cool stuff.

39:29SPEAKERAnd then also, you know, onboarding,

39:33SPEAKERlike they literally, there's a thing that teaches you

39:36SPEAKERhow to use a mouse.

39:38SPEAKER- Okay.

39:39SPEAKER- Which I guess makes sense 'cause like 10 year olds,

39:41SPEAKERkids who've never used mice might use this,

39:43SPEAKERbut also anybody who doesn't know how to use a mouse

39:46SPEAKERprobably isn't gonna care enough about most of the stuff

39:48SPEAKERthat you have to get to that point.

39:49SPEAKERAnyway, it's fine.

39:51SPEAKERLike Nintendo's commitment to onboarding people smoothly

39:54SPEAKERremains unchallenged, so good for them.

39:58SPEAKER- They do noise processing, sound processing

40:00SPEAKERon the speakers in handheld mode too,

40:03SPEAKER'cause they like, they're doing some like,

40:06SPEAKERsome business where they shape the audio

40:08SPEAKERso it sounds like it's coming from different places.

40:10SPEAKERLike even though the speakers are on the bottom

40:13SPEAKERkind of facing down and away from you,

40:17SPEAKERit sounds really good in handheld mode.

40:18SPEAKERI was really pleasantly surprised.

40:20SPEAKERMuch better than the last one.

40:21SPEAKER- Yeah, like I am somebody who generally only plays on TV

40:25SPEAKERor only handheld when I have to,

40:26SPEAKERbut I am actually, I think the handheld features

40:29SPEAKERI'm hearing about are the things I'm the most excited about

40:31SPEAKERto see on this thing.

40:32SPEAKEROr actually, put it another way,

40:33SPEAKERI think the handheld experience

40:35SPEAKERis sounding so much improved here

40:37SPEAKERthat I might actually become more of a handheld player.

40:39SPEAKER- I think maybe, I think the other thing I'm thinking about

40:42SPEAKERis probably playing with the Joy-Cons

40:45SPEAKERas the controller primarily instead of the pro controller.

40:47SPEAKER- Interesting. - Yeah.

40:49SPEAKERWhich I did for a lot of the,

40:50SPEAKERit was like Breath of the Wild early on as well,

40:52SPEAKERbut I kind of fell away from it over time.

40:54SPEAKER- Sure, I mean, if nothing else, I'm excited

40:56SPEAKERto have a way better Tetris 99 machine.

40:59SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, give me a good D-pad.

41:01SPEAKER- Yeah, well, yes, that's exactly it.

41:03SPEAKERThat actually makes me realize

41:04SPEAKERI'm gonna have to go back to playing Tetris with buttons

41:06SPEAKERif I play handheld because I'm sure replacement shells

41:10SPEAKERfor Switch 2 Joy-Cons will come along with D-pads eventually

41:13SPEAKERbut like I modded a nice one into my Joy-Cons

41:16SPEAKERthat like that D-pad is indispensable for Tetris, so.

41:19SPEAKER- We, you know, you could also just pair those Joy-Cons

41:22SPEAKERwith this Switch and not slide them in

41:24SPEAKERand just have it, you know.

41:25SPEAKER- Yeah. - Yeah, anyway.

41:27SPEAKERSo I used the pro controller a little bit at the store

41:30SPEAKERwhen we were playing Mario Kart.

41:31SPEAKERI didn't actually buy one.

41:32SPEAKERIt feels heavier than the old one was.

41:34SPEAKER- In a bad way or like in a solid, solid just?

41:37SPEAKER- Yeah, it feels like a nice controller.

41:38SPEAKER- Okay.

41:39SPEAKER- Doesn't feel like it's made of plastic even though it is.

41:41SPEAKER- Yeah.

41:42SPEAKER- There's trigger buttons underneath the back now,

41:45SPEAKERwhich is nice, like.

41:47SPEAKER- Are those mappable or are you saying

41:48SPEAKERthose just replace the normal triggers?

41:50SPEAKER- They are in addition to, I assume they're mappable,

41:53SPEAKERbut we didn't have access to like control,

41:56SPEAKERlike the Switches that were playing Mario Kart

41:59SPEAKERwere in kiosk mode, so we couldn't change settings like that

42:01SPEAKERso I don't know what they're actually used for.

42:03SPEAKER- That's cool.

42:03SPEAKER- I didn't get to actually use them.

42:04SPEAKER- I did a very informal survey on Blue Sky

42:07SPEAKERto ask people how much better the D-pad is or not

42:09SPEAKERon this thing, 'cause the D-pad

42:11SPEAKERon the Switch One Pro Controller is shit, like.

42:13SPEAKER- Yeah, it's really bad.

42:14SPEAKER- And it's bizarre because Nintendo literally owned

42:16SPEAKERthe patent on the cross-shaped D-pad for however many days.

42:20SPEAKER- It's worse than the Xbox 360 D-pad,

42:22SPEAKERwhich I thought was the all-time,

42:23SPEAKERI thought you couldn't make anything worse than that.

42:25SPEAKER- I mean, the problem with it,

42:26SPEAKERit's a very functional problem,

42:27SPEAKERis that it's very easy to hit false inputs on diagonals

42:31SPEAKERand in something like, I had to stop playing Tetris 99

42:34SPEAKERon the Pro Controller because, you know,

42:35SPEAKERhitting up on that D-pad or hitting up in that game

42:38SPEAKERdrops the piece all the way down.

42:40SPEAKERAnd there were way too many cases

42:41SPEAKERwhere I was frantically hitting left and right

42:43SPEAKERand it would register enough of an up diagonal

42:45SPEAKERthat it would drop the piece when I didn't want it to.

42:47SPEAKERSo early words sounded like people were saying

42:50SPEAKERthis is definitely better.

42:52SPEAKERTime will tell, and that's an $85 controller,

42:55SPEAKERso I hope it's better, but we'll see.

42:56SPEAKER- I didn't use the D-pad, I didn't buy a D-pad

42:59SPEAKER'cause I have a couple of old Switch Pro controllers

43:01SPEAKERfor games that use analog.

43:02SPEAKER- Yeah, those will still work.

43:03SPEAKER- Yeah, they still work fine.

43:04SPEAKERI used them last night to play Mario Kart.

43:07SPEAKERI didn't, I also have an 8BitDo controller

43:10SPEAKERthat's really, has a lovely D-pad

43:13SPEAKERthat I use for stuff like Tetris 99 on the old Switch.

43:16SPEAKERIt didn't work out of the box for me.

43:18SPEAKERLike typically they're pretty good about updating firmwares

43:21SPEAKERto support new devices.

43:23SPEAKERLike they've added Steam Deck support

43:25SPEAKERfor almost all of their old controllers at this point.

43:28SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, the Switch One, or sorry, I'm sorry,

43:30SPEAKERthe Switch Two is backwards compatible

43:31SPEAKERwith Switch One controller,

43:32SPEAKERso I would hope that they'll just update

43:34SPEAKERand not make you buy a new controller.

43:35SPEAKER- That's my hope as well.

43:39SPEAKER- One other thing I'll say in the Pro Controller's favor

43:42SPEAKERis they put a headphone jack on it,

43:44SPEAKERwhich the Switch One Pro Controller

43:46SPEAKERvery conspicuously does not have

43:48SPEAKER'cause I use headphone jacks and controllers all the time.

43:51SPEAKER- Oh, that's interesting.

43:52SPEAKERSo they, I was just saying they also have a microphone

43:55SPEAKERon the Pro Controller if you're playing,

43:57SPEAKERusing game chat to play with other people,

43:59SPEAKERwhich I might actually invest in one for that as well.

44:02SPEAKER- Yeah, like I'm gonna get one just for that headphone jack

44:04SPEAKERif nothing else.

44:05SPEAKER- Yeah.

44:07SPEAKERAnd I actually just checked the Nintendo Reddit,

44:12SPEAKERor the 8BitDo Reddit, and they're saying

44:13SPEAKERthat some controllers are working, some are not.

44:17SPEAKERSo I probably just,

44:18SPEAKERthe version of the ultimate Bluetooth controller

44:20SPEAKERor whatever I have probably just is not

44:21SPEAKERon the supported list, or maybe I'm running an old firmware.

44:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

44:26SPEAKER- And then the last thing is that like the cartridge,

44:28SPEAKERthey talk about this in the tour,

44:29SPEAKERthe cartridges are faster, which doesn't,

44:31SPEAKERlike the load times feel really fast on the new Mario Kart.

44:35SPEAKER- Yeah, the only thing I have seen

44:37SPEAKERis a side-by-side of Bowser's Fury on Switch One and Two.

44:40SPEAKER- Okay.

44:41SPEAKER- And it was like 41 seconds on the one

44:42SPEAKERversus like eight seconds on the two.

44:44SPEAKER- So yeah, Zelda load times were better,

44:46SPEAKERlike going into shrines and leaving shrines

44:48SPEAKERand stuff like that.

44:49SPEAKERIt popped up the press X to skip immediately,

44:52SPEAKERwhich I don't recall happening on the Switch One.

44:56SPEAKERSo yeah, it felt pretty good.

44:57SPEAKERI mean, we should just talk about software.

44:58SPEAKERI think that's like the gist of the hardware stuff

45:00SPEAKERfor right now.

45:02SPEAKERI mean, I'm sure we'll discover more over time, but.

45:04SPEAKER- Before we move on from hardware,

45:06SPEAKERyou did not buy a micro SD Express card, correct?

45:08SPEAKER- I did not, 'cause it's gonna be a Mario Kart

45:11SPEAKERand Zelda Tears of the Kingdom machine for me

45:14SPEAKERfor the foreseeable future.

45:15SPEAKER- Yeah, like I thought I would get one at launch

45:17SPEAKERjust to have extra space,

45:18SPEAKERbut then like Mario Kart is like what?

45:19SPEAKER22 gigs, I think.

45:20SPEAKER- It's not big, yeah.

45:22SPEAKER- And there's kind of no other big games

45:23SPEAKERthat are not Switch One games.

45:25SPEAKERAnd it has 256 gig internal.

45:28SPEAKER- Yeah.

45:28SPEAKER- So it really seems like you might as well wait

45:30SPEAKERuntil there are way more Switch Two games out

45:32SPEAKERand micro SD, or sorry, micro SD Express cards

45:34SPEAKERwill be cheaper by then anyway.

45:36SPEAKER- And maybe bigger even too.

45:38SPEAKER'Cause right now I think it's like this one terabyte ones.

45:40SPEAKERIs that right?

45:41SPEAKER- Yeah, there's a couple.

45:42SPEAKER- And 512s.

45:43SPEAKER- Lexar has a one terabyte out,

45:44SPEAKERbut it's like 200 bucks, I think.

45:46SPEAKER- Yeah, the thing I'll say is deleting and redownloading,

45:48SPEAKERredownloading games is really fast.

45:50SPEAKERIt took 20 minutes to install Mario Kart and download it.

45:53SPEAKERLast night when a million people, I assume,

45:55SPEAKERwere hitting the servers at the same time.

45:57SPEAKERI downloaded Mario Odyssey this morning and it was,

45:59SPEAKERit took, you know, it just happened in the background,

46:01SPEAKERtook a few minutes.

46:02SPEAKER- Yeah.

46:03SPEAKER- So, and it seems like the ethernet,

46:05SPEAKERas is always the case, the ethernet is faster than the wifi.

46:07SPEAKER- Yeah, that was very much the case on the launch Switch.

46:09SPEAKERI think I just talked myself out

46:11SPEAKERof getting a micro SD Express.

46:12SPEAKERLike, and I'm somebody who loves having extra storage

46:15SPEAKERin my consoles, but like,

46:17SPEAKERit just doesn't seem worth it right now

46:19SPEAKER'cause that's a relatively new standard.

46:20SPEAKER- Yeah.

46:21SPEAKER- So you might as well wait until they're bigger

46:22SPEAKERand cheaper and get one when you actually need it.

46:25SPEAKER- That was kind of my thought.

46:27SPEAKERI figure I can live with it for a while.

46:29SPEAKERSo software, I'm gonna say that I've said this before,

46:33SPEAKERthe virtual cards, the virtual game cards suck ass.

46:37SPEAKERThey're terrible.

46:38SPEAKERIf you had multiple Switches before and you bought stuff,

46:41SPEAKERthe recommended way, it's a disaster now.

46:44SPEAKER'Cause like the games that my daughter plays

46:46SPEAKERmost frequently are tied to my account,

46:48SPEAKERwhich means that she's has to check out the games

46:50SPEAKERevery 15 days or something stupid.

46:53SPEAKER- And you can't play them while they're checked out.

46:55SPEAKERIs that correct?

46:56SPEAKER- I can't play them while they're checked out.

46:58SPEAKER- It's almost like they wanted to stop people

46:59SPEAKERfrom buying once and playing like three times.

47:02SPEAKER- Well, you could buy once and play twice.

47:03SPEAKERThat was the only thing you couldn't buy three times.

47:06SPEAKERYou had to buy twice.

47:07SPEAKER- Okay.

47:08SPEAKER- You had to play twice, but yeah, it sucks.

47:10SPEAKERIt's bad.

47:11SPEAKER- I wouldn't be upset if they had just left the old Switch

47:14SPEAKERthe way it is and did this new thing on the new Switch,

47:16SPEAKERthat would feel a lot less gross, but it feels icky.

47:20SPEAKERGame share is kind of their solution to this,

47:22SPEAKERbut it only works if you have a Switch 2 in the mix.

47:26SPEAKERSo like you can't game share a Switch 1 game

47:30SPEAKERthat supports Switch game share.

47:32SPEAKERGame share lets you play cross-platform games.

47:35SPEAKERSo Switch 1 and Switch 2 games across Switch 1 and Switch 2

47:39SPEAKERis where everybody has their own console.

47:41SPEAKERAnd I think it does it with video streaming.

47:43SPEAKER- Yeah, I think it has to.

47:44SPEAKERI mean, didn't, you said before we started,

47:46SPEAKERlike it's more or less instant, right?

47:47SPEAKER- It's very fast.

47:49SPEAKER- Yeah, there's no way that they are transferring assets

47:51SPEAKERacross the network ad hoc at runtime.

47:54SPEAKER- I can't imagine that they are, like we tried,

47:57SPEAKERGina and I played Mario Odyssey and Big Brain Academy,

48:00SPEAKERwhich are two of the like five games that support this.

48:03SPEAKERMario Kart doesn't support this,

48:05SPEAKERwhich I guess is probably because they'd have to have-

48:07SPEAKER- Wait, World does not?

48:08SPEAKER- World does not, 'cause it's a Switch 2 game.

48:12SPEAKER- Oh, you're talking about sharing two Switch 1s.

48:15SPEAKER- I'm talking about,

48:16SPEAKERI thought I was gonna be able to solve my,

48:18SPEAKERhey, I have two copies of Mario Kart

48:19SPEAKERand three people that play Mario Kart on their own Switches.

48:22SPEAKERSo I don't wanna buy a copy of Mario Kart 8 again

48:24SPEAKERin 2025 problem.

48:27SPEAKER- Oh, you're talking about 8, not World.

48:29SPEAKER- You're talking about 8.

48:30SPEAKERWorld doesn't work with game share either though.

48:32SPEAKER- Oh, it doesn't?

48:33SPEAKERThat's crazy.

48:33SPEAKER- No, no Switch 2 games work with game share.

48:37SPEAKER- Is that coming later?

48:38SPEAKER- I don't know.

48:40SPEAKERTypical Nintendo communication here.

48:41SPEAKER- It seems like a weird omission, but okay.

48:44SPEAKER- Yeah, so there's games,

48:46SPEAKERthe Switch 1 games that supported this,

48:47SPEAKERlike Odyssey and Big Brain and Bowser's Fury

48:50SPEAKERand something else.

48:53SPEAKERI can't remember the other one.

48:54SPEAKEROh, Mario Party.

48:56SPEAKER- Yeah, Jamboree.

48:58SPEAKER- It's the new, there's two Mario parties

49:00SPEAKERthat came out on the last gen.

49:01SPEAKERIt's the super, whatever, the new one, the newer ones.

49:04SPEAKER- Jamboree, right?

49:05SPEAKER- Jamboree, yeah, yeah.

49:07SPEAKERThey, you download a patch that adds game share to that.

49:12SPEAKERAnd then you open up on the old Switch 1s,

49:15SPEAKERyou open up the game share app,

49:16SPEAKERwhich is just like a bottom menu item.

49:19SPEAKERAnd it says, "Hey, I'm looking for a room

49:20SPEAKERthat has game share."

49:22SPEAKERAnd then you hit the button and they join into your game

49:25SPEAKERand the person who has the Switch 2 starts the game.

49:27SPEAKERYou can also game share over the internet

49:30SPEAKERif you're in a game chat with people

49:32SPEAKERwith supported games to other Switch 2s.

49:35SPEAKERSo you can, so the Switch 1,

49:37SPEAKERSwitch 2 to Switch 1 only works locally,

49:39SPEAKERbut Switch 1 to Switch 2 works,

49:44SPEAKERsorry, Switch 2 to Switch 2 works across the internet

49:46SPEAKERwith the game chat feature.

49:47SPEAKERSo like, if I'm playing with you

49:49SPEAKERand you have Jamboree and I don't,

49:50SPEAKERthen you can game share out a Jamboree screen to me

49:53SPEAKERand we can just play together.

49:54SPEAKERWhich is really, like, that's rad.

49:56SPEAKER- It's neat.

49:56SPEAKERI'm curious to see how well it actually holds up though,

49:58SPEAKER'cause even the presentation they gave of it

50:00SPEAKERin that stream a few weeks ago did not look amazing.

50:02SPEAKERLike it looked kind of framey for the remote players.

50:05SPEAKER- Yeah, I think it's gonna be entirely dependent

50:08SPEAKERon A, how your internet is and B,

50:11SPEAKERwhat kind of wifi you have.

50:13SPEAKER- Yeah.

50:13SPEAKER- 'Cause like, I think you're gonna want good wifi.

50:15SPEAKERI don't, I haven't actually looked to see

50:17SPEAKERwhat version of wifi this thing uses yet.

50:19SPEAKER- I think it's regular six if I'm not mistaken.

50:21SPEAKER- Six would be my guess, yeah.

50:23SPEAKERMakes sense given where they are and when they released.

50:26SPEAKER- It seems like it's come out that,

50:27SPEAKERso they had been saying since that stream

50:31SPEAKERthey did a few weeks ago that something like

50:34SPEAKERa dozen games at launch, Switch One games,

50:36SPEAKERwould be getting free patches that make them better

50:39SPEAKERin one way or another on the Switch Two.

50:41SPEAKERSeems like it's actually way more games than that.

50:42SPEAKERLike they quietly have added way more games to that list.

50:46SPEAKER'Cause the initial list was like Arms, Mario Party,

50:49SPEAKERor maybe not Mario Party, it was Arms.

50:52SPEAKERThe two hand, or sorry, the two overhead Zeldas,

50:54SPEAKERnot Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom,

50:56SPEAKERbut Link's Awakening and Echoes of Wisdom.

51:00SPEAKEROdyssey, Mario Odyssey.

51:03SPEAKERAsk me anything about the other seven.

51:05SPEAKERI think Pokemon, Scarlet and Violet.

51:07SPEAKER- Big Brain. - Yeah, Big Brain Academy.

51:09SPEAKER- Game Maker toolkit.

51:11SPEAKER- Stuff like that, but it turns out that way more games

51:13SPEAKERthan those are also getting patches.

51:15SPEAKERLike it turns out that Breath of the Wild

51:16SPEAKERand Tears of the Kingdom get a free patch

51:18SPEAKEReven if you don't pay that like $10 upgrade

51:21SPEAKERto the Switch Two edition.

51:22SPEAKER- Oh, that's interesting.

51:23SPEAKER- So there's like, and then there were a few other

51:25SPEAKERpretty major games on that list that I,

51:26SPEAKERlike there were a couple of the Kirby games from last gen.

51:29SPEAKERI've gotten free patches, so.

51:30SPEAKER- Yeah, like, the, yeah, I can't remember which one.

51:32SPEAKER- I forget which ones, but the point is

51:34SPEAKERlike quite a few first party games

51:36SPEAKERactually are getting free updates to be better

51:38SPEAKERin one way or another resolution frame rate,

51:40SPEAKERsomething, something.

51:41SPEAKER- Super Mario Brothers U Deluxe.

51:42SPEAKER- Yes, that was one, Mario Wonder was another one.

51:45SPEAKER- I was surprised Pikmin 4 didn't get it, actually.

51:47SPEAKERI was kind of waiting to play Pikmin 4 until this came out

51:49SPEAKERand I wanna...

51:51SPEAKER- I think one of the Pikmins did get one,

51:53SPEAKERbut I don't remember which one that was.

51:59SPEAKERAnyway, like, you know, nice bonus that on day one,

52:01SPEAKERit turns out quite a few more Switch One games

52:04SPEAKERare better than were expected, which is nice because again,

52:07SPEAKERthere are practically no new games launching on this thing.

52:09SPEAKER- Yeah, the thing I'll say about the new Switch games

52:11SPEAKERis that it's, it is nice.

52:14SPEAKERIt's also, it's a little confusing how you get like,

52:20SPEAKER'cause there's two tiers, right?

52:22SPEAKERThere's, hey, you get a patch

52:23SPEAKERthat just automatically dumps out

52:25SPEAKERand gives you some Switch Two compatibility stuff

52:27SPEAKERand it's like, it knows that you have Joy-Con Twos

52:29SPEAKERand stuff like that, so it says, you know,

52:31SPEAKERmake sure you put it on your wrist strap

52:33SPEAKERwith your Joy-Con Two when you're playing on the Switch Two

52:35SPEAKERor it gives you access to Game Share

52:36SPEAKERin the case of like Big Brain and Mario Odyssey

52:38SPEAKERand stuff like that.

52:40SPEAKERIt doesn't, there's also the enhanced edition things,

52:44SPEAKERwhich is what Mario or Mario Party Jamboree, I believe,

52:49SPEAKERand the both the 3D Zelda's got.

52:52SPEAKER- Those are like the paid updates, right?

52:53SPEAKER- Yeah, those are paid updates,

52:54SPEAKERor if you're on the expansion pass for Nintendo Switch Online

52:59SPEAKERyou get access to those as well for free.

53:01SPEAKERYou have to download those from the shop though.

53:03SPEAKERAnd it doesn't, and like when you launch the game

53:05SPEAKERit doesn't say, hey, you have access to this,

53:07SPEAKERyou should go download this.

53:08SPEAKERIt just launches it and you're, you know,

53:12SPEAKERyou don't, if you don't know to go download that

53:14SPEAKERyou're gonna miss out.

53:15SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm gonna have to see if it's worth,

53:17SPEAKERI mean, it's 10 bucks, like whatever,

53:18SPEAKERI might just do it just to see what's in there,

53:21SPEAKERbut I don't know if I actually need those $10 upgrades

53:23SPEAKERon the two Zelda's because frame rate and resolution

53:26SPEAKERare what I want out of those.

53:28SPEAKERAnd that might be actually be in that free patch

53:29SPEAKERthat apparently exists because they also added, you know,

53:32SPEAKERthat second screen app support and stuff like that.

53:35SPEAKER- Yeah, the notes.

53:37SPEAKER- Yeah, I wonder if that's the thing you're getting

53:38SPEAKERin the $10 upgrade and it's not the graphical stuff.

53:41SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't, it's unclear to me

53:43SPEAKERwhat you get in the upgrades, which is like,

53:45SPEAKERthat's kind of an eternal Nintendo problem in the post,

53:48SPEAKERkeep paying us more money for stuff.

53:51SPEAKER- Let me look, I played a little bit of Breath of the Wild

53:54SPEAKERthis morning, I wanna see if I have Zelda notes in here.

54:00SPEAKER- So did you buy the upgrade or no?

54:02SPEAKER- Well, we have the upgrade, no, I have the,

54:04SPEAKERI have the family, like when you have the family plan,

54:08SPEAKERit costs basically nothing extra

54:09SPEAKERto get the expansion pass stuff.

54:11SPEAKERAnd also we play a lot of Mario Kart and Animal Crossing,

54:13SPEAKERso I have it anyway.

54:14SPEAKER- I've watched some side-by-sides of Mario Odyssey

54:17SPEAKERand like Mario Odyssey looks better,

54:19SPEAKERit definitely looks sharper

54:20SPEAKER'cause that game was pretty low-res in docked mode

54:23SPEAKERon the Switch one, like it's noticeably sharper.

54:25SPEAKERZelda is night and day, like absolutely night and day,

54:28SPEAKERlike it looks fantastic.

54:31SPEAKERI know there have been ways to play those Zelda games

54:33SPEAKERat higher resolutions and frame rates before now,

54:36SPEAKERbut still on a nice Nintendo handheld,

54:39SPEAKERI am very happy to go play Tears of the Kingdom now

54:41SPEAKERin a much better way than when it launched.

54:43SPEAKER- It feels so smooth compared to the Zelda one.

54:45SPEAKERI wish, I wonder if you have mouse control

54:48SPEAKERfor building the vehicles in Tears of the Kingdom.

54:55SPEAKER- I don't know, I don't think so.

54:58SPEAKER- So I have like stats and stuff in my Zelda notebook.

55:02SPEAKERIt's, I don't know, this seems a little thin, but whatever.

55:06SPEAKER- Yeah, I asked 10 bucks.

55:08SPEAKER- Yeah, I can share items.

55:09SPEAKERI can send you items from my Zelda game to your Zelda game

55:12SPEAKERif we both have this, I guess.

55:14SPEAKER- All right.

55:15SPEAKER- That feels weird for a certain player game, but whatever.

55:17SPEAKER- I guess.

55:20SPEAKERThis is real quick,

55:21SPEAKERsince we're talking about upgrades from last gen,

55:22SPEAKERI saw some side-by-side footage of Fortnite on a Switch 2.

55:26SPEAKER- Oh, I love a Fortnite.

55:28SPEAKER- If I can remember,

55:29SPEAKERI apologize to whoever put that video on YouTube,

55:31SPEAKERwhich had some nice information in it,

55:32SPEAKERand I can't remember your account name,

55:33SPEAKERbut I believe it is over 1080p 60 in docked mode.

55:39SPEAKERIt was like 1200 something lines at 60 frames,

55:42SPEAKERand it was 900p 60 in handheld,

55:44SPEAKERwhich is, I think, is perfectly acceptable for a 1080p screen.

55:49SPEAKER- I mean, now maybe I have a way to play Fortnite mobile.

55:51SPEAKER- Yeah, and it looked good.

55:53SPEAKERLike they said, bigger draw distances, better foliage,

55:57SPEAKERbetter shadows, like the whole nine yards.

55:59SPEAKERIt looked like a good serviceable version of Fortnite.

56:03SPEAKER- It didn't look like potato mode,

56:04SPEAKERlike the Switch 1 version.

56:06SPEAKER- That's actually the one and only reason

56:08SPEAKERthat I wish I had gotten one before Summer Game Fest,

56:10SPEAKERbecause the Death Star event is happening on Saturday.

56:14SPEAKER- Oh yeah.

56:15SPEAKER- And it would have been nice to play that

56:16SPEAKERon a Switch 2 in LA instead of,

56:17SPEAKERI guess I'll bring my Switch 1 and try to play it on that.

56:20SPEAKER- I think your iPad, oh, iPad doesn't run on your iPad.

56:22SPEAKER- Probably not, my iPad is quite old.

56:25SPEAKERAnyway.

56:27SPEAKER- Yeah, so, oh, the, let's see.

56:30SPEAKERThe other thing is the cartridges you just plug in,

56:33SPEAKERit works, it downloads an update, just like normal.

56:35SPEAKERThey're keyed a little bit differently,

56:38SPEAKERbut other than that, like they just go in,

56:41SPEAKERand the sticker faces forward.

56:45SPEAKERI can't remember which way the sticker faced on the old one,

56:47SPEAKERbut you can see which game you're sliding in

56:49SPEAKERas you slide it in now, which is nice.

56:51SPEAKER- Here's a quick tidbit that Jon from DF uncovered,

56:55SPEAKERwhich is really interesting.

56:56SPEAKERI mean, it's kind of a niche case,

56:58SPEAKERbut if you buy a Switch 2 version of a Switch 1 game,

57:00SPEAKERyou know, like the Switch 2 Edition ones,

57:02SPEAKER'cause they now have boxed versions

57:04SPEAKERof like the Zelda Switch 2 Edition versions of Zelda,

57:08SPEAKERapparently you can put that Switch 2 card in your Switch 1

57:10SPEAKERand it will still run as the original Switch 1 game.

57:13SPEAKER- Oh, that's nice.

57:14SPEAKER- So like if you have older Switches,

57:15SPEAKERyou can still pass those cards around

57:16SPEAKERand play both versions on both consoles,

57:19SPEAKERwhich is kind of neat.

57:21SPEAKERIt works both ways, which is cool.

57:23SPEAKER- That's consumer friendly.

57:24SPEAKER- Yeah, I guess maybe last thing here,

57:26SPEAKERit sounds like you tried some of the GameCube emulation.

57:29SPEAKER- Yeah, so there's only two GameCube games right now

57:31SPEAKERin that bin, I think.

57:33SPEAKERWell, there's four games,

57:34SPEAKERbut it's two versions of two different games, I believe.

57:38SPEAKERI'm gonna open it up right now

57:39SPEAKERso I can confirm that nothing new has dropped

57:41SPEAKERsince I tried this.

57:42SPEAKER- I'm gonna guess, I know Wind Waker is one of them.

57:44SPEAKERI'm gonna guess Luigi's Mansion, I guess,

57:46SPEAKERmaybe for the other one.

57:47SPEAKER- Oh man, I wish it was Luigi's Mansion.

57:49SPEAKERThat would be dope.

57:50SPEAKERIt's, sorry, sorry, three games.

57:52SPEAKERIt's F-Zero GX, PAL, and NTSC.

57:57SPEAKERIt's Zelda Wind Waker, PAL, and NTSC,

58:01SPEAKERand Soul Calibur 2, PAL, and NTSC.

58:04SPEAKERI assume, yeah.

58:05SPEAKER- Soul Calibur 2, that was the one rare case

58:07SPEAKERwhere the GameCube version was by far

58:09SPEAKERthe most popular version of a multi-platform game

58:11SPEAKERthat generation, because it had Link.

58:13SPEAKER- Is that, is that like, what was it?

58:14SPEAKERThe other one was like Yoda and Spawn or something?

58:17SPEAKER- That sounds right.

58:18SPEAKER- Maybe that was three.

58:19SPEAKER- I think it was Spawn on the Xbox

58:21SPEAKERand maybe Yoda, I'm getting it mixed up.

58:23SPEAKERI think that's right.

58:25SPEAKER- Yeah.

58:26SPEAKER- I think Darth Vader was later.

58:27SPEAKERAnyway, the point is, yes, like the Link was,

58:29SPEAKERLink made that GameCube version highly desirable,

58:32SPEAKERso I guess I can see why that would be on there, but.

58:35SPEAKER- Yeah, it's a, that's a weird, like I would have put,

58:39SPEAKERI guess Mario Sunshine's divisive, I don't know.

58:41SPEAKER- It is, I mean, they should still put it on,

58:43SPEAKERthey should put all the big marquee,

58:45SPEAKERthey should put Metroid Prime 1 and 2.

58:47SPEAKERWell, those are pretty heavy hitters,

58:49SPEAKERI'm sure they'll hold some of those back,

58:50SPEAKERbut like, they should put Sunshine and the Primes

58:53SPEAKERand Luigi's Mansion and maybe Pikmin 1.

58:57SPEAKER- Oh, this one, Yoda was later.

58:59SPEAKERThis is Heihachi from Tekken.

59:02SPEAKER- Okay, Heihachi, Spawn, and Link.

59:04SPEAKER- And Spawn and Link, yeah, yeah.

59:05SPEAKER- Okay, Heihachi on PlayStation and Spawn on Xbox?

59:08SPEAKER- That's correct.

59:10SPEAKERIt was originally gonna be Cloud Strife

59:11SPEAKERfrom Final Fantasy VII,

59:12SPEAKERbut the licensing deal fell through at the last minute.

59:14SPEAKER- That would have been, I don't think I ever knew that.

59:16SPEAKERThat's, that would have been crazy,

59:17SPEAKERbecause which one of those would have pushed more units?

59:20SPEAKER- Yeah, right.

59:21SPEAKER- Like who's actually a popular character, Link or Cloud?

59:24SPEAKER- Uh, Link would have pushed more, I'm sorry, Brad.

59:26SPEAKERI think so.

59:28SPEAKER- But there were so many more PS2s

59:29SPEAKERin the market at that time.

59:30SPEAKER- That's true.

59:31SPEAKER- So many more.

59:32SPEAKER- Yeah, like I, it's interesting though,

59:35SPEAKER'cause like, the N64, I haven't fired up the N64 emulator

59:39SPEAKERto see if it's still the crappy, fuzzy version

59:41SPEAKERfrom the last, from the Switch one.

59:44SPEAKERThe, the, it looks really good.

59:49SPEAKERIt looked like Wind Waker looked fabulous.

59:51SPEAKER- Is it four by three?

59:52SPEAKER- It's four by three.

59:53SPEAKER- Okay, so that's the original GameCube version then?

59:55SPEAKER- Yeah, they didn't do that.

59:56SPEAKERIt's not the, it's not the remastered Wii version,

59:59SPEAKERor Wii U version, I guess.

1:00:01SPEAKERWhich some people absolutely prefer.

1:00:03SPEAKERLike a lot of people-

1:00:04SPEAKER- Did you play it?

1:00:05SPEAKER- I played both versions, yeah.

1:00:06SPEAKERI finished, I finished original Wind Waker

1:00:08SPEAKERand played a lot of, I didn't mind Wind Waker HD.

1:00:11SPEAKERA lot of people hate what they did to the art

1:00:12SPEAKERwith the extra like light bloom and stuff.

1:00:15SPEAKER- Yeah, I, I didn't, like I played the first one

1:00:18SPEAKERall the way through multiple times.

1:00:19SPEAKERI, it's one of, it's probably my favorite Zelda, I think.

1:00:23SPEAKERThe, the back half of that game,

1:00:26SPEAKERI get why people want it changed.

1:00:29SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:00:29SPEAKER- But also, I mean, it was a,

1:00:32SPEAKERit's a product of its time, right?

1:00:33SPEAKER- Yeah, sure.

1:00:36SPEAKER- I, I, it looks really good.

1:00:37SPEAKERThe cel shading looks fabulous.

1:00:38SPEAKERIt's, it's interesting 'cause like we're at a point now,

1:00:41SPEAKERlike the N64 games have aged really poorly

1:00:44SPEAKERjust 'cause of the era that they came from, I think.

1:00:47SPEAKERThis game, this, this game looked unbelievable

1:00:50SPEAKERon the, on the modern hardware with the, you know,

1:00:54SPEAKERthe high resolution and all that stuff, so.

1:00:55SPEAKER- That's cool.

1:00:56SPEAKER- Anyway, so yeah, that's, that's kind of,

1:00:59SPEAKERI guess that's kind of it.

1:01:00SPEAKER- Yeah, that's, sounds like that's,

1:01:01SPEAKERthat's basically the full kit and caboodle for,

1:01:03SPEAKERat least for what you can say,

1:01:05SPEAKERhaving owned it for about 15 hours now.

1:01:08SPEAKER- Yeah, that seems right.

1:01:09SPEAKERIt's, you know, pleasantly surprised.

1:01:11SPEAKERIt feels expensive.

1:01:14SPEAKER- It feels, as in, feels premium, you mean?

1:01:16SPEAKERLike feels like-

1:01:17SPEAKER- No, well, both.

1:01:19SPEAKERLike 500 bucks feels like a lot for a handheld.

1:01:21SPEAKER- It is, well, 450 for the hardware, but yes,

1:01:23SPEAKERthat is absolutely a lot for a handheld.

1:01:24SPEAKERBut like, I, I didn't know if you meant like,

1:01:26SPEAKERit feels good in your hand, like it earns the price

1:01:28SPEAKERor what you meant.

1:01:29SPEAKER- It, it feels, it definitely feels like a nicer piece.

1:01:33SPEAKERLike, so the Wii U handheld unit felt really good, right?

1:01:38SPEAKERIt felt really sturdy, even though it was made

1:01:39SPEAKERof like shiny, you know, mid 2000s plastic, right?

1:01:43SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:01:45SPEAKER- This feels like, this has a nice matte finish.

1:01:47SPEAKERIt feels expensive.

1:01:49SPEAKERThe screen looks really nice.

1:01:51SPEAKERIt looks good.

1:01:52SPEAKERI'm terrified carrying it around

1:01:53SPEAKERwithout a screen protector on it yet.

1:01:54SPEAKERThat's getting here tomorrow.

1:01:55SPEAKER- I, I was, so I'm, I'm torn

1:01:58SPEAKERbecause I didn't own an OLED,

1:01:59SPEAKERbut apparently they're doing the same thing they did

1:02:00SPEAKERon the OLED where there is a built-in screen protector

1:02:02SPEAKERalready, but it's like a glued on,

1:02:04SPEAKERit's like a shatter protection, protection layer.

1:02:08SPEAKER- I'm going to put something on on top of it

1:02:10SPEAKERso I don't get my, so I can replace the thing

1:02:12SPEAKERthat gets micro scratches just from using.

1:02:14SPEAKER- I might do that too.

1:02:15SPEAKERMy, my first, my Switch 1 picked up, like, I mean,

1:02:18SPEAKERit was over the bezel, not the screen,

1:02:19SPEAKERso it was not a huge deal, but the,

1:02:21SPEAKERthe dock itself scuffed up the screen cover of the Switch 1,

1:02:25SPEAKERwhich was really annoying.

1:02:26SPEAKER- Well, here's, like, for me though,

1:02:29SPEAKERlike I want to just be able to chuck it in my bag.

1:02:31SPEAKER- Yeah, oh, you're not going to get a case?

1:02:33SPEAKER- Probably not.

1:02:34SPEAKER- Oh, okay, so that's very different.

1:02:35SPEAKERLike I absolutely will get a nice hard case to travel in.

1:02:38SPEAKER- Yeah, and like I, so with that context,

1:02:41SPEAKERlike I don't mind if the plasticky bits

1:02:42SPEAKERget scratched up a little bit,

1:02:44SPEAKERbut I don't want the screen to get scratched up

1:02:46SPEAKERand I'd much rather replace an $8 screen protector

1:02:49SPEAKERthan a, than an, you know, screen cover.

1:02:52SPEAKER- Does this, does this use the same,

1:02:53SPEAKERlike kind of soft touch finish

1:02:55SPEAKERthat the Switch 1 Joy-Cons had,

1:02:57SPEAKERwhere there's like a, there's a softness to them,

1:02:58SPEAKERor is it more of a traditional, like matte plastic?

1:03:01SPEAKER- It feels soft, it does not feel like squishy

1:03:04SPEAKERin the way that that soft plastic often does.

1:03:06SPEAKER- Interesting. - That makes sense.

1:03:07SPEAKERIt's like, it's like a matte,

1:03:09SPEAKERit's like a, it almost feels burnished.

1:03:11SPEAKER- Ah, okay.

1:03:14SPEAKERAll right.

1:03:15SPEAKER- Yeah, so anyway, that's it.

1:03:17SPEAKERThere's been drama, as always, with any new thing.

1:03:20SPEAKER- Are you referring to staples through the screen drama?

1:03:23SPEAKER- Yeah, I would be so pissed.

1:03:24SPEAKERI, there are, there are multiple reporters out there

1:03:27SPEAKERI've seen trying to do followups on this story.

1:03:29SPEAKERIt could be an isolated incident.

1:03:31SPEAKERAt one, apparently at one GameStop,

1:03:34SPEAKERthey were stapling people's receipts

1:03:36SPEAKERto the front of their box,

1:03:37SPEAKERand apparently the way this thing is packaged,

1:03:39SPEAKERthe screen of the Switch 2 is basically flush

1:03:42SPEAKERwith the front of the box.

1:03:43SPEAKER- It's the, it's on the top of the box.

1:03:45SPEAKER- And there are pictures out there of people's screens,

1:03:49SPEAKERpeople's Switch 2s with two little staple puncture holes

1:03:52SPEAKERin their screen.

1:03:53SPEAKER- That feels real bad, man.

1:03:54SPEAKER- Which really stinks.

1:03:55SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:03:56SPEAKER- I don't know why they would do that.

1:03:57SPEAKER- Probably 'cause they didn't know where the thing was.

1:04:00SPEAKERNo, I did not have staples through my screen.

1:04:03SPEAKERThat would, that would feel bad.

1:04:04SPEAKER- I would, you know, at the, at the,

1:04:06SPEAKERnot the World Store, at the New York,

1:04:07SPEAKERbut the second flagship store in the US, I would hope not.

1:04:11SPEAKER- They, let's see, they had some nice swag that they get,

1:04:14SPEAKERlike we got a pen for buying the $500 console

1:04:17SPEAKERfrom them on launch day,

1:04:19SPEAKERand a Nintendo lanyard that I can put my,

1:04:22SPEAKERI guess my work, if I had a work badge,

1:04:24SPEAKERI could hook it up to that, I guess, I don't know.

1:04:27SPEAKERBut no, no staples through the screen, nothing like that.

1:04:30SPEAKERThe box wasn't even sealed from the Nintendo World Store.

1:04:33SPEAKERLike it had, it was just like cardboard.

1:04:34SPEAKERThere was no like little plastic thing over the,

1:04:37SPEAKERover the buying edges.

1:04:40SPEAKERBut yeah, that's, that's pretty much it, I guess.

1:04:43SPEAKER- Okay, well, there you go.

1:04:44SPEAKERThere is some up to the minutes console launch coverage.

1:04:48SPEAKER- Yeah, lightning fast, like in a perfect world,

1:04:50SPEAKERif people have questions about this stuff,

1:04:52SPEAKERplease send them in, we'll tackle them in the Q and A

1:04:54SPEAKERwhen I've had some more time.

1:04:56SPEAKERWhen hopefully we both had some more time with it.

1:04:58SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:04:59SPEAKER- The email address is techpod@content.town.

1:05:02SPEAKER- Yes, that gives me to the end of the month

1:05:04SPEAKERto get one before questions might come in.

1:05:07SPEAKER- And it's, I mean, normally it's a lot of game stuff,

1:05:12SPEAKERI guess, lately, so sorry about that.

1:05:14SPEAKER- Yes, we have been very games heavy.

1:05:16SPEAKERLet us know if it's getting to be too much,

1:05:18SPEAKERbut some of that is just scheduling reasons

1:05:20SPEAKERand that we both do enough game stuff outside of this

1:05:22SPEAKERthat it's something we have ready access to.

1:05:25SPEAKER- Well, and it's also like new console launches

1:05:27SPEAKERare a big deal.

1:05:28SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:05:28SPEAKER- Like we only get one a decade pretty much, so.

1:05:30SPEAKER- Yeah, and like there's always a lot of new tech

1:05:34SPEAKERand even new or interesting implementations

1:05:37SPEAKERof old tech crammed into consoles.

1:05:39SPEAKER- Yeah, when I went to pick it up,

1:05:42SPEAKERI wasn't sure we were gonna do the episode about this.

1:05:43SPEAKERWe had another plan in mind, but it's, there's enough,

1:05:48SPEAKERlike I, honestly, I'm so stoked about the stuff

1:05:50SPEAKERlike the HE Rumble and the way the mouse works

1:05:52SPEAKERthat I'm excited to see what they do with it

1:05:54SPEAKERover the next 10 years, so.

1:05:55SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:05:56SPEAKER- Anyway, so this is, thanks for listening

1:05:58SPEAKERto this week's TechPod.

1:05:59SPEAKERAs always, this is a listener supported show,

1:06:01SPEAKERso we wouldn't be here without you all, the listeners.

1:06:04SPEAKER- Oh.

1:06:05SPEAKER- No, we'd just be hanging out in Discord

1:06:07SPEAKERtalking about this and being like,

1:06:10SPEAKERoh man, I can't believe what he said.

1:06:11SPEAKEROh, I can't believe what he said.

1:06:13SPEAKERWow, have you used the new Switch too?

1:06:14SPEAKERHave you pressed the C button yet?

1:06:16SPEAKERThat's wild.

1:06:17SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:06:18SPEAKER- It just takes a screenshot,

1:06:19SPEAKERbut if you long press it, it makes a video.

1:06:21SPEAKER- Okay, can I insert some profoundly not video game

1:06:24SPEAKERrelated content into this really quick?

1:06:26SPEAKER- Yeah, what you got?

1:06:27SPEAKER- My favorite TechPod Discord experience

1:06:29SPEAKERin a while the other day.

1:06:34SPEAKERI was very briefly in the networking channel

1:06:35SPEAKERtalking about why I had moved from a pie hole to blocky,

1:06:39SPEAKERjust talking about some config stuff or whatever

1:06:41SPEAKERthat I thought was better.

1:06:43SPEAKERSomeone responded and this is one of my favorite things

1:06:45SPEAKERthat's ever been said on this Discord.

1:06:47SPEAKERSomebody just responded and said,

1:06:48SPEAKERyeah, that's why I ended up writing my own DNS server.

1:06:51SPEAKER(laughing)

1:06:52SPEAKERWhich got some kudos in that channel for sure.

1:06:57SPEAKER- Oh my God, nerds.

1:06:59SPEAKER- I was very excited.

1:06:59SPEAKERI was very excited to see that.

1:07:00SPEAKERThat is rad as hell.

1:07:02SPEAKER- Nerds.

1:07:05SPEAKERThat's amazing.

1:07:06SPEAKERSo if you wanna be part of that, you can.

1:07:07SPEAKERYou pay five bucks a month.

1:07:08SPEAKERIt's a gated community full of lovely people

1:07:11SPEAKERand it's very low drama.

1:07:14SPEAKERWe just hang out and we talk about things

1:07:16SPEAKERthat we're interested in and there's a wide variety

1:07:19SPEAKERfrom like, hey, you have a house

1:07:22SPEAKERand you don't know how to maintain it.

1:07:24SPEAKERYou need help with that or you wanna share some cool shit

1:07:26SPEAKERthat you've done with your house.

1:07:27SPEAKERAll the way through to, hey man, I built my own DNS server

1:07:30SPEAKER'cause I was annoyed by all the other options.

1:07:32SPEAKER- Yeah, maker stuff, cooking stuff, job stuff.

1:07:35SPEAKER- Yeah. - Lots of stuff.

1:07:37SPEAKER- Yeah, I got a recommendation.

1:07:38SPEAKERI got a referral for the job that I talked about on the,

1:07:40SPEAKERlike a little bit of a difference.

1:07:42SPEAKERBut we have had multiple people that have gotten jobs

1:07:43SPEAKERas a result of the tech pot at this point.

1:07:45SPEAKER- Job not guaranteed.

1:07:47SPEAKER- Job not guaranteed.

1:07:48SPEAKER- It should be clear.

1:07:49SPEAKER- Yeah, it's not a job board.

1:07:50SPEAKERBut you can find out how to back the tech pot.

1:07:53SPEAKERIt's five bucks a month.

1:07:54SPEAKERYou can go to patreon.com/techpot.

1:07:57SPEAKERAgain, that's patreon.com/techpot

1:08:00SPEAKERand get access to all of that.

1:08:01SPEAKERPlus the monthly patron only episodes

1:08:04SPEAKERwhere we talk about projects that we have going on

1:08:06SPEAKERand sometimes we answer some more questions

1:08:07SPEAKERand you would just kind of chat.

1:08:09SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

1:08:11SPEAKER- So that'll do it for us.

1:08:12SPEAKEROh, I gotta thank our executive producer tier patrons,

1:08:15SPEAKERincluding Jason Lee, Andrew Slosky, Jordan Lippitt,

1:08:19SPEAKERBunny Meme, Twinkle Twinkie, David Allen, James Kamik,

1:08:23SPEAKERand Pantheon, makers of the HS3 high-speed 3D printer.

1:08:27SPEAKERThank you all so, so much.

1:08:28SPEAKER- Thank you.

1:08:30SPEAKER- That'll do it for us this week.

1:08:31SPEAKERBrad, have a fun time in LA

1:08:32SPEAKERand getting your summer game fest on.

1:08:34SPEAKERWhat are you, are you excited about anything?

1:08:36SPEAKER- Yes, I've got some stuff lined up.

1:08:38SPEAKER- Should we talk about it?

1:08:39SPEAKER- By the time this, last year there was an embargo

1:08:41SPEAKERon everything, so maybe I should talk to myself now.

1:08:44SPEAKER- We'll talk about it next week.

1:08:45SPEAKERAnd maybe we'll do a patron episode

1:08:47SPEAKERabout summer games fest or something, I don't know.

1:08:49SPEAKERBut we'll be right next week

1:08:50SPEAKERwith another edition of the Tech Pod.

1:08:52SPEAKERUntil then, please consider the environment

1:08:54SPEAKERbefore pitching this podcast.