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280: Pay-to-Reject Cookies Should Be Illegal

2025-03-30 · 1:13:04

00:00SPEAKER- Okay, Brad, I gotta post Breaking Containment

00:03SPEAKERon the blue sky today.

00:04SPEAKER- It's reached the discover feed, the accursed land.

00:07SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm getting replies from people like,

00:10SPEAKERwell, you know, it started like Twitter in 2010,

00:14SPEAKERwhere like Alex immediately jumps in with a better joke

00:18SPEAKERthan the one that I wrote.

00:19SPEAKERIt's classic.

00:21SPEAKERAnd then everybody else piled on after there,

00:25SPEAKERand now it's starting to be random people

00:27SPEAKERwho don't understand the joke.

00:29SPEAKER- That's doing the Twitter thing,

00:30SPEAKERthe classic algorithmic sorting of people

00:33SPEAKERthat we both follow that replied to you

00:35SPEAKERare floating to the top, you know?

00:36SPEAKERSo it's like, also, should we mention

00:38SPEAKERwhat this post is about?

00:39SPEAKER- No, no, they were the first ones, just to be clear.

00:41SPEAKERLike, just to be clear, Alex, number one with a bullet,

00:44SPEAKERhe was up, he had something up to 30 seconds

00:46SPEAKERafter I made the post.

00:47SPEAKERHe was on it.

00:48SPEAKER- Then here's Austin, and then here's Ben replying to him,

00:51SPEAKERand then here's Danica, you know?

00:53SPEAKERIt's like, when I see this many people

00:55SPEAKERthat we mutually follow responding to your thing,

00:57SPEAKERI see that it is gaining some traction.

00:59SPEAKER- Look, I was walking down the street

01:02SPEAKERon the way to GDC last week,

01:03SPEAKERand I saw a sign on the side of the Market Street,

01:07SPEAKERas one does, and they're usually for startups.

01:11SPEAKERSo it's like crypto bullshit or AI bullshit.

01:13SPEAKER- Oh, dude, the number of AI-related billboards

01:16SPEAKERin this city is, it should be illegal.

01:19SPEAKER- Yeah, like, hey, hey, you know what?

01:21SPEAKERYou can fire your whole HR department

01:23SPEAKERand use our AI thing to give everybody HR

01:25SPEAKERthat's probably better for the company

01:27SPEAKERand worse for the humans than the existing process.

01:30SPEAKER- Okay, let's be real here.

01:32SPEAKERThey knew what they were doing

01:33SPEAKERwhen they chose the name post hog, right?

01:35SPEAKER- Wait, hold on, you can't just drop that.

01:37SPEAKERI had a story, I gotta build to this, right?

01:39SPEAKER- Go on, go on.

01:40SPEAKER- So I'm walking down the street on the way to GDC,

01:43SPEAKERand I've seen these signs all over the city

01:45SPEAKERover the last several months or year,

01:47SPEAKERand like I said, usually they're for some AI nonsense

01:52SPEAKERor some crypto bullshit or something skeezy.

01:55SPEAKERThis one is just something wholesome.

01:56SPEAKERIt's post hog.

01:57SPEAKER- Right.

01:58SPEAKER- But the new signs that they put up lately

02:01SPEAKERhave this guy who's like, Kilroy was hearing it

02:04SPEAKERover the edge of the bottom edge of the sign.

02:07SPEAKERAnd I think there's more text below that,

02:08SPEAKERbut I did a strategic crop to make it look extra creepy.

02:12SPEAKERAnd I took this picture of the sign

02:14SPEAKER'cause I thought it was funny on Wednesday

02:15SPEAKERthat said post hog experiments, period.

02:19SPEAKERPost hog does that.

02:20SPEAKERAnd I was like, you know, a lot of people

02:22SPEAKERdo experiment with posting hog.

02:24SPEAKER- I sure do.

02:24SPEAKER- Yeah, and I mean, I figured what place

02:28SPEAKERis gonna appreciate posting hog jokes more than Blue Sky,

02:33SPEAKERwhich was founded on a long, long history of hog posting.

02:37SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, their extended brand identity

02:39SPEAKERfeatures taglines like, we're a little hog wild

02:41SPEAKERabout helping you build successful products.

02:43SPEAKERAnd they appear to have a little cartoon hedgehog mascot.

02:47SPEAKER- Oh, I thought that was a bear.

02:48SPEAKER- No, no, no, it's got spines all over it.

02:51SPEAKER- Oh, I'm looking at the one that Austin posted, replied.

02:53SPEAKER- You're suggesting there are bears with hedgehog style

02:56SPEAKERspines on them, we are in worse trouble than I thought.

02:59SPEAKER- And that's some real annihilation business there.

03:02SPEAKER- It sure is.

03:03SPEAKER- So Austin posted the picture from what I assume

03:05SPEAKERis their website that said, why post hog?

03:08SPEAKERBecause it's literally designed to be a no brainer.

03:11SPEAKERAnd then it's a picture of a bear

03:12SPEAKERwho's very clearly not wearing pants,

03:14SPEAKERsitting at a desk in front of a computer with coffee

03:16SPEAKERand like a little cup of pencils.

03:18SPEAKER- So that's, I believe, I think the disconnect here

03:20SPEAKERis that's not a chair that that hog is sitting on.

03:23SPEAKER- It's its tail.

03:24SPEAKER- Oh, you think that's the hog?

03:26SPEAKER- Absolutely, 'cause there are other,

03:28SPEAKERgo Google the mascot of post hog.

03:30SPEAKER- Oh man, I didn't realize that the post hog,

03:33SPEAKERit's a hedgehog.

03:34SPEAKER- Plenty of other illustrations out there from other angles

03:37SPEAKERand you can see clearly that that is,

03:39SPEAKERyou know, I mean, it might be a built in chair, I suppose.

03:41SPEAKERIf your tail was big enough,

03:42SPEAKERyou would kind of have a chair with you at all times.

03:44SPEAKER- And I would love to, that would be amazing

03:46SPEAKERif you just had a chair with you anywhere you went.

03:49SPEAKERI am very curious.

03:51SPEAKER- Well, first off, I know every time I've joked about this

03:54SPEAKERwith people who are like front end engineer types,

03:57SPEAKERthey're like, oh yeah, we love post hog.

03:58SPEAKERThey help us get our analytics in order or whatever.

04:01SPEAKERAnd I'm like, oh, okay.

04:03SPEAKERBut everybody else is one for the childish joke.

04:06SPEAKERSo I appreciate that.

04:07SPEAKER- You might say naming that company was a master stroke.

04:10SPEAKER(upbeat music)

04:21SPEAKER(upbeat music continues)

04:38SPEAKER- Welcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod.

04:41SPEAKERI'm Will.

04:42SPEAKER- I'm Brad.

04:43SPEAKER- Like the funny thing about the post hog thing

04:45SPEAKERis that people, sorry, it's broken containment,

04:47SPEAKERis that people are in like,

04:49SPEAKERsomebody asked me if it implied that there's a pre,

04:53SPEAKERit's like postmodernism, it's like post hog.

04:55SPEAKERLike we're all living in a post hog world now.

04:58SPEAKERI hadn't thought about that.

05:00SPEAKERAnd then somebody else asked if it implies the existence

05:03SPEAKERof pre hog, which I guess also could be true.

05:08SPEAKERAnyway, I'm done talking about post hog now, sorry.

05:11SPEAKER- I'm just getting started.

05:13SPEAKERI'm stinger clicking around their why post hog page,

05:16SPEAKERtrying to figure out if they have any information

05:17SPEAKERabout where their name came from.

05:19SPEAKER- I assume it's like a ground hog type situation.

05:22SPEAKER- I guess so.

05:23SPEAKER- Like they really gonna dig into it.

05:25SPEAKERThey're gonna get the business done,

05:26SPEAKERbut I bet it's just a bunch of dipshits

05:29SPEAKERwe're sitting in a room,

05:30SPEAKERwe're like, you know what would be really funny

05:30SPEAKERis if we call this the post hog.

05:32SPEAKER- They don't have a Wikipedia page yet, actually.

05:36SPEAKER- This is shocking me.

05:38SPEAKER- That's the normally the type of place you would go

05:40SPEAKERfor some dumb little apocrypha

05:42SPEAKERabout where their name came from.

05:43SPEAKERThere is, I did end up on a Wikipedia page

05:46SPEAKERfor post hoc analysis.

05:47SPEAKERI don't think that's where they got their name from.

05:49SPEAKERI don't think it's a play on that, but I don't know.

05:51SPEAKER- I do have to shout them out

05:53SPEAKER'cause they picked up my dark mode settings

05:55SPEAKERfrom the desktop and I got a dark page

05:58SPEAKERinstead of a light page.

05:59SPEAKER- I mean, that's good.

06:00SPEAKER- Which I appreciate.

06:01SPEAKER- I might argue that that has gone from a nice you have

06:03SPEAKERto expected at this point.

06:05SPEAKER- I'm gonna tell you when you post a lot of newsletter

06:07SPEAKERwithout a dark mode, people let you know.

06:08SPEAKER- I bet they do.

06:10SPEAKER- Yeah. - I bet they do.

06:11SPEAKERHow do they let you know?

06:13SPEAKER- Well, it's funny you say that.

06:14SPEAKERThey'd match reply on the email that comes in and say, hey,

06:17SPEAKERwhat about a dark mode?

06:19SPEAKERAnd I was like, I'll see if I can do that.

06:20SPEAKERSo then I just made the whole, I like, look,

06:23SPEAKERthere was no dark mode light mode toggle

06:25SPEAKERon the hosts that I chose.

06:27SPEAKERSo everything's dark mode now.

06:28SPEAKERAnd you know what?

06:29SPEAKERNobody's complained.

06:30SPEAKER- I was just about to ask.

06:31SPEAKERI would love to see some market research

06:33SPEAKERon just going default dark mode.

06:35SPEAKERAnd is there a similar size contingent

06:37SPEAKERthat wants a light mode that wants dark mode?

06:39SPEAKERI bet not.

06:39SPEAKER- I think one person was like, hey,

06:41SPEAKERI liked the light mode better actually,

06:43SPEAKERbut it wasn't really a complaint.

06:44SPEAKERIt was more of a expression of preference.

06:46SPEAKERSo anyway, hey, you think your email is a good trade

06:50SPEAKERfor that free white paper?

06:52SPEAKERNo, no, that's what post hog.

06:54SPEAKERThis is, I don't understand this.

06:56SPEAKERIt is absolutely a hedgehog.

06:57SPEAKERI'm captivated by this.

06:58SPEAKERSorry, I'm going back.

07:01SPEAKERI'm opening a document that's called March, 2025

07:03SPEAKERbecause it is the last podcast of the month,

07:05SPEAKERwhich means it is that time that we turn all of the cues

07:09SPEAKERthat were sent in this month into A's.

07:12SPEAKERProbably not all of them because it was a lot this month.

07:15SPEAKER- We've got quite a few here.

07:16SPEAKER- I was surprised we only had one Star Wars related question

07:20SPEAKERdespite I got a lot of positive feedback

07:22SPEAKERon that Rob Zachney episode.

07:23SPEAKERBut I think it's just the people like Rob a lot.

07:25SPEAKER- Yes, even the one is only kind of tangentially

07:28SPEAKERStar Wars related.

07:30SPEAKERWe've got a lot of cues here.

07:31SPEAKERSome of them are bolded.

07:33SPEAKEROthers are highlighted in yellow

07:35SPEAKER'cause that's how we differentiate which emails

07:37SPEAKEReach of us wants to read.

07:39SPEAKERSee, I gave you the bold

07:40SPEAKER'cause you can just keyboard shortcut that.

07:42SPEAKERI have to click like three times to-

07:44SPEAKER- You could italics.

07:46SPEAKER- It's true.

07:47SPEAKERI don't think that's as eye-catching.

07:49SPEAKER- Well, I mean, I could, like if you want to be egalitarian,

07:51SPEAKERI'm happy to switch to highlighting.

07:53SPEAKERI often do this on my iPad though,

07:55SPEAKERwhich is not a good place to have to select.

07:57SPEAKERAnd like, it's a pain in the ass no matter what I do.

08:00SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm more annoyed that Google doesn't let you

08:02SPEAKERset keyboard shortcuts for colors in Google Docs.

08:05SPEAKEREverything should let you set keyboard shortcuts

08:06SPEAKERfor everything.

08:08SPEAKER- This is the first 100% fast mail emails episode.

08:14SPEAKERI took all of the emails that are my fast mail folder

08:17SPEAKERfor this, and I archived the entire month.

08:20SPEAKERAnd now that box is clean again, fresh start.

08:24SPEAKER- That's a good feeling.

08:25SPEAKER- I also use J and K to go up and down the email list,

08:28SPEAKERwhich I like a lot.

08:29SPEAKER- Really?

08:30SPEAKERWait a minute.

08:30SPEAKER- Yeah, I think Gmail does that too.

08:32SPEAKER- You know what this means?

08:34SPEAKER- What?

08:35SPEAKER- You know what J and K to go up and down are, right?

08:37SPEAKER- No.

08:38SPEAKER- You don't?

08:39SPEAKER- No.

08:40SPEAKER- Those are VIM keys, dude.

08:42SPEAKER- Fuck.

08:44SPEAKER- This is very exciting to me.

08:46SPEAKER- Oh no, I hate this.

08:48SPEAKER- You're getting there.

08:49SPEAKER- I hate this a lot.

08:50SPEAKER- You're getting there.

08:50SPEAKERI find myself now occasionally using VIM controls

08:54SPEAKERin regular processors and stuff,

08:57SPEAKERand it's becoming a problem for me.

08:59SPEAKER- No, not okay.

09:00SPEAKEROkay, so Gmail does up and down with J and K too.

09:03SPEAKER- Yeah.

09:04SPEAKER- I'm not accepting this.

09:07SPEAKERI'm gonna say that this predates VIM.

09:09SPEAKERI bet the VIM stole this from someplace else,

09:11SPEAKERand Chad's gonna let us know.

09:13SPEAKER- What if you were looking at a thing

09:14SPEAKERand you wanted to just copy the next four lines?

09:17SPEAKER- I never have ever wanted to do that in my life.

09:19SPEAKER- Without having to highlight exactly what you wanted?

09:21SPEAKERDid you know you can do that in like three keystrokes?

09:23SPEAKER- I hold down control and shift

09:25SPEAKERand press down three times to do that.

09:27SPEAKER- What if you could just hit the number of lines?

09:29SPEAKERWhat if you just hit three YY and it's in your buffer?

09:31SPEAKER- Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

09:34SPEAKER- If you want to delete the next three lines-

09:36SPEAKER- Look, this is a wholesome family podcast, Brad.

09:38SPEAKERDon't bring your weird perversions here.

09:40SPEAKERWe're here to talk about post-hog and answer questions.

09:42SPEAKER- Did you know that I can delete

09:44SPEAKERfrom the position of the cursor to the end of the document?

09:46SPEAKERI can delete with two key presses.

09:48SPEAKER- I mean, that sounds dangerous actually.

09:50SPEAKERWhy would you want that?

09:51SPEAKER- You just hit D capital G.

09:52SPEAKERWe'll delete everything from the cursor down to the bottom.

09:57SPEAKERIt's great.

09:58SPEAKER- I don't like this.

09:59SPEAKER- It's great.

09:59SPEAKER- I don't like this.

10:00SPEAKER- All right.

10:01SPEAKERCan we, have you played Utopia Must Fall yet also?

10:04SPEAKER- Yeah, the game's awesome.

10:06SPEAKER- Okay, good.

10:07SPEAKERI was going to say, everybody should check out

10:08SPEAKERUtopia Must Fall, that game rips.

10:09SPEAKERIt was part of the IDGA stuff.

10:11SPEAKER- Yeah, I think did that come up on last week's podcast?

10:13SPEAKER- Did we talk about it?

10:14SPEAKER- It may have, or we may have talked about it off air.

10:16SPEAKERIt's been out for a little bit.

10:17SPEAKERIt's been out for actually a few months.

10:19SPEAKER- Yeah, but it's-

10:20SPEAKER- It came out last year sometime.

10:21SPEAKER- It's like a vector game and it simulates

10:23SPEAKERand it runs really well on OLEDs is what I will say.

10:27SPEAKER- It's like, yeah, man, I would love to see that on OLED.

10:28SPEAKERIt's like a hyperkinetic missile command roguelike.

10:33SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

10:35SPEAKERIt's like missile command with a skill tree.

10:37SPEAKER- Yeah, yes, it's very cool.

10:39SPEAKERYou know what else is cool is answering some questions.

10:41SPEAKER- Yeah, if you have a question,

10:42SPEAKERyou can send it to techpod@content.town.

10:44SPEAKERIt'll show up in my fast mail where I'll read it, copy it,

10:46SPEAKERpress J to get the next one and paste both of those

10:48SPEAKERinto the letter section at the same time.

10:53SPEAKERAnd we do these every month, so send them in.

10:56SPEAKERI think we have an overflow on the patron episode this month

10:59SPEAKERwould be my guess judging by the quality of questions.

11:03SPEAKERYeah, well look, the podcast never stopped, Brad.

11:05SPEAKER- True, it's very true.

11:07SPEAKERAll right, let's start with emails.

11:10SPEAKERThere are a lot of them.

11:11SPEAKERDave and Sheffield, I used to hear some developers citing

11:14SPEAKERthat porting their games to Stadia's Linux environment

11:17SPEAKERwas not worth the return in revenue.

11:19SPEAKERIn a post Steam Deck world and the big improvements

11:22SPEAKERin Proton, would Stadia have fared better

11:24SPEAKERif there were an easier route to Stadia via a compatibility

11:27SPEAKERlayer instead of a full native port?

11:29SPEAKEROr was it always doomed due to the subscription

11:31SPEAKERand game purchasing model?

11:33SPEAKERI think it is very much the latter.

11:35SPEAKERFrom my perspective, they were just a little bit ahead

11:39SPEAKERof the Game Pass model, a little bit ahead of realizing

11:42SPEAKERthat, hey, people aren't gonna want to pay full price

11:44SPEAKERfor games they can't install locally on their machine,

11:47SPEAKERlet alone hold in their hand as a hard copy.

11:49SPEAKER- Well, there was also the problem that as I understand it,

11:52SPEAKERthey didn't actually give anyone, they didn't,

11:56SPEAKERso they had a platform with no users and no way

11:59SPEAKERto project revenue and substantial porting costs.

12:02SPEAKERSo hundreds of thousands of dollars for big games

12:06SPEAKERand still like a couple months run rate probably

12:10SPEAKERfor smaller games.

12:11SPEAKERAnd they didn't help subsidize that.

12:13SPEAKERSo typically when you have a new platform that has no users

12:16SPEAKERand no installed base, you say, hey, we're gonna subsidize

12:22SPEAKERthis and we'll recoup that when you start selling the game.

12:25SPEAKERBut if you don't, if the game doesn't sell

12:26SPEAKERbecause our platform sucks, then it's on us, right?

12:29SPEAKER- Right.

12:30SPEAKER- It's what Oculus did to get games on the Oculus headsets

12:33SPEAKERfor the, on the Quest and the Oculus headsets

12:35SPEAKERfor the first few generations.

12:36SPEAKERAnd Google was like, no, man, you're gonna be,

12:38SPEAKERyou're gonna have a billion user installed base.

12:40SPEAKERAnd meanwhile, gamers were like, I don't know about that.

12:43SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, that's the thing from the user perspective,

12:45SPEAKERthey did nothing to build a user or an audience

12:48SPEAKERby A, charging you to get into the service,

12:51SPEAKERthen B, making you pay full price for the games.

12:53SPEAKERThat seems crazy in retrospect.

12:55SPEAKERLike these days, if you're launching a service like that,

12:57SPEAKERit would probably be, get in the door for free

12:59SPEAKERand here's a free to play game.

13:01SPEAKERLike here's a Fortnite-esque thing.

13:04SPEAKERLike you need something for people to just try

13:06SPEAKERat this point, like charging an entry fee

13:08SPEAKERand then all the cards, game B is just a non-starter

13:13SPEAKERfor what people expect these days,

13:14SPEAKERwhich is to try a thing for free.

13:16SPEAKER- And the broadband situation is still not great

13:18SPEAKERfor streaming, like if you live someplace that's not

13:21SPEAKERon a coast or near, has good internet,

13:24SPEAKERlike Xbox game cloud is rough.

13:27SPEAKERI just, I don't, it was hubris on Google's part

13:31SPEAKERto think that they could spend money on this

13:34SPEAKERand then have it work.

13:35SPEAKER- Yeah, better middleware might've helped though.

13:37SPEAKERI mean, it might've enticed them a few more games.

13:40SPEAKERWould it have helped the service succeed?

13:41SPEAKERProbably not, but they might've had

13:43SPEAKERa slightly more robust launch lineup

13:45SPEAKERif stuff like Proton had been in place at the time.

13:48SPEAKER- The thing I've heard, and this is all like third hand,

13:51SPEAKERso I don't know if it's true or not,

13:52SPEAKERbut the thing I heard was that they hired a bunch

13:55SPEAKERof really smart people from games

13:56SPEAKERand then didn't listen to any of them

13:58SPEAKERand treated it like a tech product,

14:00SPEAKERwhich doesn't work because you have like,

14:02SPEAKERyou know, the difference is in the world of tech,

14:05SPEAKERyou build something that's good and you have measurements

14:09SPEAKERthat you can show that it's like,

14:10SPEAKERif you are the company that Posthog is competing with

14:14SPEAKERand you're Posthog, you're like,

14:15SPEAKERhey, we're 3% faster than Posthog and we run it

14:18SPEAKERand our costs are 25% lower.

14:20SPEAKERThat's an easy decision and you can put those numbers

14:23SPEAKERin a spreadsheet and then look at how long

14:25SPEAKERit's gonna take you to move your stuff over to Posthog

14:27SPEAKERand you're like, oh, okay, so this is gonna cost us

14:29SPEAKERa little bit of money upfront, but we'll make

14:30SPEAKERthat money back, we'll save that money in the next six months

14:32SPEAKERso it's totally worth doing.

14:34SPEAKERVideo games don't work that way.

14:36SPEAKER'Cause like, you can make a game that looks great

14:39SPEAKERand it runs 60 frames a second really solid

14:42SPEAKERand just is no fun at all and nobody will fucking play

14:44SPEAKERthe game and often tech people don't understand that

14:48SPEAKERhaving straddled both worlds over the last two decades.

14:51SPEAKER- Unsurprising, also pretty clear who won out

14:54SPEAKERin the power struggle there.

14:56SPEAKER- It was not Google.

14:58SPEAKER- Ah, since we're talking about Steam related stuff

15:00SPEAKERkind of, sort of, Jason in Central Wisconsin,

15:03SPEAKERhave you seen this program on Steam

15:05SPEAKERcalled Lossless Scaling yet?

15:07SPEAKERI'm half convinced it's magic, it provides upscaling

15:10SPEAKERand frame generation from an easy to use program

15:12SPEAKERthat runs in the background with minimal performance hit.

15:15SPEAKERThere is some input lag, but that's frame gen, right?

15:18SPEAKERIt's not perfect, but it's made previously unplayable games

15:21SPEAKERplayable on my laptop and they're selling it

15:23SPEAKERfor 350 during the Steam sale.

15:25SPEAKERI feel like there has to be a catch,

15:27SPEAKERbut unless I unknowingly sold my soul

15:29SPEAKERin the terms and conditions or something,

15:30SPEAKERI can't figure out what it is.

15:32SPEAKER- So all this does is a different kind of,

15:34SPEAKERit provides different levels of upscaling for,

15:38SPEAKERworks, seems to work really well on pixel games,

15:41SPEAKERbut it taps into Nvidia and AMD's super resolution stuff,

15:48SPEAKERnot the DLSS, but the DLAA and FSR super resolution.

15:54SPEAKER- Is this like a post-process thing?

15:55SPEAKERDoes this work on any game?

15:57SPEAKERI'm not seeing.

15:58SPEAKER- So yeah, it works on most games is my understanding.

16:04SPEAKERIt does it without, like DLSS gets information

16:07SPEAKERfrom the game, so like it doesn't upscale UI elements,

16:12SPEAKERfor example, it doesn't use DLSS to upscale UI elements

16:15SPEAKER'cause they get corrupted and weird when you do that.

16:17SPEAKERSo when you have a native implementation,

16:21SPEAKERit renders the stuff that's like,

16:23SPEAKERit just renders the stuff that you want rendered upscaled

16:26SPEAKERand everything else gets rendered the traditional way

16:28SPEAKERwith like a nearest neighbor or length source

16:30SPEAKERor whatever upscaling.

16:32SPEAKERI think that this is probably gonna work best

16:34SPEAKERon pixel art games.

16:35SPEAKERI think they show FTL in their promo.

16:38SPEAKER- Although they also show cyberpunk,

16:39SPEAKERso it's kind of a spread.

16:40SPEAKER- Doom Eternals in here.

16:42SPEAKERI would not use this if you have a game

16:45SPEAKERthat natively supports your cards upscaling,

16:50SPEAKERlike a DLSS or FSR.

16:53SPEAKER- Yeah, or maybe if you're playing anything competitive

16:56SPEAKERas well that is very latency dependent.

16:58SPEAKER- Absolutely would not use it

16:59SPEAKERfor anything that's competitive.

17:01SPEAKER- I'm sorry, I'm laughing because I'm looking

17:03SPEAKERat scaling options and it's got usual suspects,

17:06SPEAKERyou know, fidelity effects, some Nvidia stuff,

17:08SPEAKERnearest neighbor, anime 4K.

17:12SPEAKER- That's for anime stuff, Brad.

17:13SPEAKER- You don't say.

17:15SPEAKER- Look, anime requires its own special.

17:19SPEAKERThis is in, what do you call it too?

17:23SPEAKERHandbrake has anime settings for anime image upscaling.

17:27SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I think it would be even funnier

17:28SPEAKERif there were a scaling algorithm called anime 4K

17:31SPEAKERthat had nothing to do with anime, but anyway.

17:36SPEAKER- So I flagged this because West Fenland's

17:40SPEAKERemulation upgrade, emulation newsletter,

17:44SPEAKERa couple of weeks ago, the first March one,

17:46SPEAKERhad a thing about, what's it called?

17:50SPEAKERShaderglass, I think is what it's called.

17:52SPEAKERHave you seen that?

17:53SPEAKER- No, I've got to subscribe to that newsletter.

17:56SPEAKERI don't subscribe to a single newsletter if,

17:58SPEAKERWes, if you're listening to this in my defense,

17:59SPEAKERI don't subscribe to any newsletters.

18:02SPEAKER- I'm sitting right here, man.

18:03SPEAKER- Yours will be the first, okay, sorry,

18:05SPEAKERWill's will be the first, yours will be the second, Wes.

18:08SPEAKERIt's just not part of my workflow.

18:09SPEAKERLike reading things in my inbox is just not something

18:11SPEAKERthat I do by nature.

18:14SPEAKER- So, well, you need to see, this is why I'm,

18:17SPEAKERnow that I have fast mail and I'm excited about email again.

18:21SPEAKERSo Shaderglass.

18:22SPEAKER- Yes, okay, I'm looking at Shaderglass, it's on itch.

18:24SPEAKER- Yeah, it's an itch thing.

18:26SPEAKERAnd it's basically, it's the same idea.

18:28SPEAKERIt's basically a window that you put on top of your display

18:31SPEAKERand it applies different retro arc kind of state shaders on.

18:38SPEAKER- And you literally drag this window around

18:39SPEAKERand it just automatically--

18:41SPEAKER- It's fricking rad.

18:42SPEAKER- Refracts whatever's underneath it.

18:43SPEAKEROkay, I have to try this.

18:44SPEAKER- It is very good.

18:45SPEAKERSo I was playing this with Utopia Must Die.

18:49SPEAKERUtopia Must, is that what it's called?

18:51SPEAKERUtopia Must Fall.

18:52SPEAKERWith Utopia Must Fall the other day

18:54SPEAKERto get even more phosphor glow from the edges,

18:58SPEAKERit's very good.

18:59SPEAKERLike it's stupid, just to be clear.

19:01SPEAKERIt's stupid in a lot of ways.

19:03SPEAKERBut if you're playing like upsampled Mr. Games,

19:07SPEAKERlike I actually plugged my Mr. into the capture card

19:10SPEAKERon the back of my PC

19:11SPEAKERand then ran this on top of the capture window

19:14SPEAKERand it gave me a nice kind of CRT representation

19:18SPEAKERthat really, really hit my GPU hard, so.

19:22SPEAKER- Maybe I should not be running it as we speak.

19:25SPEAKER- No, that's quite fine.

19:26SPEAKER- I'm running it as we speak.

19:27SPEAKERYou now look like you're on a CRT, this is rad.

19:29SPEAKER- Yeah, right?

19:30SPEAKER- This is actually shockingly effective.

19:33SPEAKERI don't know how much extra latency I'm introducing

19:35SPEAKERinto my recording by running this, but we'll see.

19:37SPEAKER- It's probably fine.

19:38SPEAKER- Yeah, you know.

19:39SPEAKER- I'm gonna make you a CRT too.

19:41SPEAKER- I might actually just sit here and let you be on a CRT

19:43SPEAKERfor the rest of this podcast.

19:44SPEAKER- Why wouldn't you?

19:46SPEAKER- I've got all these cores.

19:47SPEAKERI've got this big graphics card, why not?

19:49SPEAKER- Yeah.

19:50SPEAKER- Shader glass.

19:51SPEAKER- Shader glass.

19:52SPEAKERIt's on mousimus.itch.io/shaderglass.

19:57SPEAKERI'll try to remember to link this on the show notes.

19:59SPEAKER- Yeah, Brad, just your head is in a TV now.

20:01SPEAKERThe rest of your window is not so much.

20:03SPEAKER- Yeah, that's cool, that's neat.

20:05SPEAKER- So yeah, like I think there's interesting,

20:07SPEAKERthere's multiple applications like this being used

20:09SPEAKERfor different stuff.

20:10SPEAKERLike the upsampling one, I'm a little skeptical of.

20:13SPEAKERI haven't actually spent a lot of time with it.

20:14SPEAKERI installed it and played like 10 minutes of Doom 2016 on it

20:18SPEAKERand was like, oh, this feels okay.

20:21SPEAKERBut I don't know, I don't know beyond that.

20:25SPEAKERLike I probably wouldn't use that

20:26SPEAKERjust 'cause I have a video card that supports DLSS

20:29SPEAKERand FSR and all this stuff.

20:31SPEAKER- Yeah.

20:31SPEAKER- If I didn't, I might feel a little bit differently.

20:33SPEAKERLike if I was on an Intel machine, Intel card

20:35SPEAKERor an AMD card or something like that.

20:37SPEAKER- Sure, here's an email from Alex.

20:40SPEAKERThis is a good question.

20:41SPEAKERI'm someone who doesn't enjoy using social media

20:44SPEAKERbut I'm starting a new business

20:45SPEAKERand I think it'll be in my best interest

20:46SPEAKERto have some sort of social media presence.

20:49SPEAKERI like the idea of communicating directly with customers

20:52SPEAKERbut I'm worried about getting sucked in

20:54SPEAKERby the endless newsfeed.

20:56SPEAKERIs there a way to use technology

20:57SPEAKERto mitigate the bad parts of social media

20:59SPEAKERwhile reaping the benefits of it?

21:01SPEAKERPerhaps an intermediate layer that can act as a buffer.

21:04SPEAKER- Well, I mean, you could just always post

21:06SPEAKERand never look at replies.

21:07SPEAKER- Yeah, or just look at replies.

21:10SPEAKERYeah, like just look at replies to your posts

21:11SPEAKERand just never look at any kind of algorithmic,

21:13SPEAKERanything that's serving content to you.

21:15SPEAKER- Yeah, I was gonna say the other thing is

21:17SPEAKERthe reason I've been spending more time on Blue Sky these days

21:20SPEAKERis the lack of the algorithmic feed.

21:21SPEAKERI mean, they put one in 'cause some people

21:25SPEAKERneed the algorithmic feed.

21:26SPEAKER- Yeah, that discover feed is broken.

21:28SPEAKERIt does not work well at all.

21:30SPEAKER- You have to follow a fair number of people

21:32SPEAKERfor it to take over.

21:33SPEAKERIt works reasonably well for me,

21:34SPEAKERbut I just don't use it 'cause it's always bummers.

21:36SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, well, it works better sometimes than others.

21:39SPEAKEROccasionally it runs out of posts

21:40SPEAKERor it repeats posts constantly for me

21:42SPEAKERand it also clusters topics in a way

21:44SPEAKERthat's very painfully obvious.

21:46SPEAKERLike I'll get 10 posts in a row that are about

21:49SPEAKERlike the same relatively narrow Linux topic or whatever.

21:51SPEAKERYou know, like it's not the best discover feed.

21:55SPEAKER- But I mean, I guess my point is

21:57SPEAKERthe algorithmic feed is bad just in general.

21:59SPEAKERJust get a reverse chrono feed

22:01SPEAKERand when you run out of it

22:02SPEAKERand don't follow too many people

22:03SPEAKERand then you won't have too much stuff in there, right?

22:05SPEAKERLike that's the thing.

22:07SPEAKER'Cause if you run out, like the old days of Twitter,

22:09SPEAKERyou just run out of stuff

22:10SPEAKERand then you go do something else and that worked out well.

22:12SPEAKERAnd then we started following 2,000 people each

22:14SPEAKERand you never ran out

22:16SPEAKERand the brain was just constantly getting hit by dopamine

22:18SPEAKERand that feels nice.

22:19SPEAKERAnd then it feels not nice the more you do it.

22:21SPEAKERAnd then pretty soon you're posting 250, 350 times a day

22:27SPEAKERlike Elon Musk and you go completely bad shit crazy.

22:32SPEAKER- It's a bad way to be.

22:33SPEAKER- Yeah, it's not good.

22:34SPEAKERYou don't wanna have posters madness.

22:36SPEAKER- Let's dip into the Discord questions.

22:39SPEAKERMaybe we'll swing back up into emails.

22:41SPEAKER- Wow. - In a bit.

22:42SPEAKER- Okay.

22:43SPEAKER- I'll spread it around a little bit.

22:44SPEAKER- This is unprecedented.

22:45SPEAKERWe usually, it's usually strictly

22:47SPEAKERan email first then Discord.

22:49SPEAKER- Look, I could go every other if I wanted.

22:52SPEAKERMaybe I will.

22:53SPEAKER- Okay.

22:54SPEAKER- Bobby De Fish, what's your cutoff

22:56SPEAKERfor it's time to get a new phone?

22:58SPEAKERI have an S25G, they'll stop delivering security updates

23:02SPEAKERfor it this year and the USB-C port no longer functions.

23:06SPEAKERI charge using a wireless charger

23:07SPEAKERand the phone still works as well as ever.

23:09SPEAKERShould I wait until those updates stop sooner or later?

23:12SPEAKERI would, for how important and centrally located

23:15SPEAKERin a person's life a phone is these days

23:17SPEAKERand how subject to potential exploits

23:21SPEAKERand vulnerabilities it is, I would not use a phone

23:24SPEAKERthat is not getting security updates anymore, flat out.

23:27SPEAKER- Yeah, that's the hard line for me.

23:29SPEAKERBut the soft line for me is when the camera

23:32SPEAKERon the new one is significantly better than the,

23:35SPEAKERlike I didn't upgrade iPhones last year,

23:37SPEAKERpartly because it's more of a pain in the ass

23:39SPEAKERto upgrade than it is to, like the benefits seem less

23:42SPEAKERthan the upgrade.

23:45SPEAKERBut like when the camera does something new,

23:47SPEAKERespecially like types of things that I use,

23:50SPEAKERlike low light or like fast traction action in the daytime,

23:55SPEAKERI'll upgrade for that, that's kind of my big one.

23:59SPEAKER- Yeah, let me reiterate, don't skimp on security updates,

24:02SPEAKERwhether it's phone or tablet or your computer

24:04SPEAKERor whatever operating system you're running,

24:05SPEAKERlike don't run something that is not getting

24:07SPEAKERsecurity support anymore.

24:09SPEAKER- Yeah.

24:11SPEAKER- Things are too fraught these days.

24:12SPEAKER- I did some research on this 'cause I was talking,

24:14SPEAKERI wrote about a recent newsletter was about

24:17SPEAKERthe upcoming end of Windows 10 and 20 in October

24:22SPEAKERwhere they're not gonna do security updates for it anymore.

24:24SPEAKERThey're not doing updates at all for it anymore.

24:26SPEAKERAnd I was like, what's the average time to,

24:32SPEAKERlike if you put an unpatched system on the internet,

24:35SPEAKERwhat's the average time to own it?

24:39SPEAKERAnd it's still like 18 minutes for,

24:43SPEAKERI don't know about Windows 10.

24:44SPEAKERThe Windows XP and Windows 7 ones were less than 20 minutes.

24:48SPEAKER- Now you're talking about connecting the system directly

24:50SPEAKERto a WAN connection, right?

24:52SPEAKERNo firewall, no nothing?

24:53SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

24:54SPEAKER- Yeah, that's obviously making things

24:56SPEAKERway more vulnerable than real world,

24:57SPEAKERbut I wonder if 10 is going to present

24:59SPEAKERlike a real massive target of opportunity for people

25:02SPEAKERthat are looking to exploit computer systems out there,

25:05SPEAKERlike they're gonna know, hey, there's like how many,

25:08SPEAKER10 hundreds of millions of unsupported devices

25:10SPEAKERall on the internet at once all of a sudden,

25:12SPEAKERand they're just gonna be like, hey, it's like open season.

25:14SPEAKER- I mean, so I specifically looked at

25:18SPEAKERwhat the experience was like in,

25:20SPEAKERlike the last closest analog to this,

25:23SPEAKERthe Windows 7 uptick,

25:25SPEAKERpeople actually switched to Windows 8 or Windows 10

25:28SPEAKERby the time they killed Windows 7.

25:30SPEAKERWindows XP is the last time I could remember

25:34SPEAKERan enormous number of unsupported machines

25:36SPEAKERbeing on the internet.

25:39SPEAKERAnd it was also at a time before people had routers a lot.

25:42SPEAKERSo it's a little bit of a not fair example

25:44SPEAKER'cause most machines are behind a firewall now

25:46SPEAKERand that helps a lot.

25:48SPEAKERBut yeah, the Windows XP pre-SP2 thing,

25:53SPEAKERif you were on a raw internet connection pre-SP2 coming out,

25:57SPEAKERit took like 10 minutes before some worm infected you.

25:59SPEAKERUsually it was incredibly fast.

26:01SPEAKER- That's pretty frightening.

26:02SPEAKER- Yeah.

26:03SPEAKER- My iPad Pro is not getting updates anymore.

26:05SPEAKERI just discovered recently because I was like, man,

26:09SPEAKERseems like iPad OS, also I hate saying iPad OS.

26:12SPEAKERI liked it when it was all just iOS.

26:14SPEAKERI kind of understand. - You mean iOS for iPads?

26:16SPEAKER- I understand why there is some segmentation there now,

26:18SPEAKERbut still, anyway, at some point I was like, man,

26:21SPEAKERI feel like I should have gotten iPad OS 18 by now.

26:23SPEAKERWhat the hell is going on?

26:24SPEAKERAnd then I looked and sure enough,

26:25SPEAKERmy model of iPad Pro was dropped off the support list

26:29SPEAKERfor 18, so.

26:30SPEAKER- Oh boy.

26:31SPEAKER- I don't know how Apple,

26:32SPEAKERI mean, Apple is so security conscious.

26:34SPEAKERI wonder, do they still extend like some basic security

26:37SPEAKERupdates beyond like kind of iOS end of life?

26:40SPEAKERI tried to find that information

26:41SPEAKERand I could not find a definitive answer on

26:43SPEAKERif 17 would still get security updates.

26:47SPEAKERI want to say mine did pull a minor security update

26:50SPEAKERin the last couple of months, but I could be wrong.

26:52SPEAKER- Wikipedia says iOS 17 is no longer, is obsolete,

26:57SPEAKERno longer getting security updates.

26:59SPEAKER- Okay, I guess it's time for a new iPad then.

27:01SPEAKERThat's a bummer.

27:03SPEAKERTariffs in effect and it's a bad,

27:04SPEAKERlike it's a down year for iPad updates.

27:07SPEAKERSo I'm double screwed on buying a new iPad right now.

27:10SPEAKERBut anyway.

27:11SPEAKER- You have the first, the first iPad Pro?

27:13SPEAKER- It is, gosh, I lost track of them.

27:16SPEAKERIt's the last iPad Pro that had a home button.

27:19SPEAKERI want to say it's the last 10.5 inch one.

27:22SPEAKER- Probably the last non, it's probably the last A processor,

27:25SPEAKERnot M processor one too.

27:27SPEAKER- I think they still were using A's in the 11 inch

27:30SPEAKERfor the first year or two.

27:31SPEAKER- Yeah.

27:32SPEAKER- They're apparently revving the iPad Pro this year,

27:34SPEAKERbut keeping the same M4 in it for another year.

27:37SPEAKER- So I was going to say, I think that the secret,

27:39SPEAKERif I were buying an iPad and wanted pencil support

27:42SPEAKERthese days, I think I would probably buy an Air

27:45SPEAKERat this point, because I don't know that the Pro is,

27:48SPEAKERthe Air seems really good.

27:49SPEAKER- I'm so addicted to the Pro motion.

27:53SPEAKERLike it's literally the only reason I would get a Pro

27:55SPEAKERis because I want the 120 Hertz screen.

27:58SPEAKER- I think the iPad Airs have 120 Hertz screen now.

28:01SPEAKER- I'm pretty sure that's still iPad Pro, but.

28:03SPEAKER- Oh, it's liquid retina, not.

28:05SPEAKER- Yeah, that's just a resolution thing, not a refresh thing.

28:07SPEAKERI mean, it's a dumb reason to get a Pro,

28:09SPEAKERbut I use the iPad like a couple hours a day, every day.

28:13SPEAKERAnd I've had this iPad for eight years, I think.

28:15SPEAKERI believe it's eight.

28:16SPEAKER- Spending too much time in the bathroom, dude.

28:19SPEAKER- It's a couch device.

28:20SPEAKER- Oh, oh.

28:21SPEAKER- It's a consumption device.

28:22SPEAKER- Okay, okay.

28:22SPEAKER- Like if I don't need to type,

28:23SPEAKERit's I'm probably going to just chill out on the couch

28:26SPEAKERand browse on the iPad.

28:27SPEAKER- I can see that.

28:29SPEAKER- I should probably get a new iPad.

28:30SPEAKER- How about, dude, this is crazy.

28:33SPEAKERIs this actually a thing from Bob the Cannibal?

28:37SPEAKERIs it just me or are Pay to Reject cookies

28:40SPEAKERthe ultimate form of intuitification?

28:42SPEAKER- I've never seen this before.

28:43SPEAKER- I had never seen this either,

28:44SPEAKERbut I started Googling around

28:45SPEAKERand apparently it is a thing that's starting.

28:47SPEAKERThere are starting to exist websites

28:50SPEAKERthat will let you reject their cookies,

28:52SPEAKERbut only if you pay them a fee.

28:54SPEAKER- That seems like it's not GDPR compliant.

28:57SPEAKER- That's literally the first thing that came up

28:58SPEAKERwhen I Googled this was, "Hey, are Pay to Reject cookies

29:01SPEAKERGDPR compliant?"

29:03SPEAKERDid not find a definitive answer for that.

29:08SPEAKER- Look, everything I do is not ad supported at this point.

29:12SPEAKERI guess the work I do at PC World is ad supported,

29:14SPEAKERbut I increasingly think that letting people

29:17SPEAKERrun arbitrary code on our computers

29:19SPEAKERin exchange for hot takes was a mistake.

29:21SPEAKERIt's a thing I've said for a long time.

29:24SPEAKERIt's just getting worse.

29:26SPEAKERThis is insane.

29:27SPEAKER- You should not be able to do this.

29:30SPEAKER- Yeah, totally agree.

29:31SPEAKER- This would just be a...

29:34SPEAKERLook, I'm gonna go and tell you,

29:35SPEAKERit took me about 10 minutes to figure out

29:36SPEAKERhow to block those Admiral,

29:38SPEAKER"Hey, we noticed you're blocking ads on our site" things.

29:41SPEAKERAnd now I don't see those anymore.

29:43SPEAKERWe're using my pie hole.

29:44SPEAKERNobody in the house does.

29:45SPEAKERYeah, it's great.

29:46SPEAKER- I should probably look into that too.

29:48SPEAKER- It was a fairly involved script

29:50SPEAKERthat I had to put on the thing,

29:51SPEAKERbut yeah, it works now.

29:54SPEAKERAnd I don't know, man.

29:57SPEAKERI think that that should be against the law.

30:02SPEAKER- Yeah, or in the EU, it may very well be.

30:05SPEAKER- Well, we have the CDPR,

30:07SPEAKERwhich is the California equivalent

30:09SPEAKERof the law that's modeled on the GDPR.

30:12SPEAKER- As we are learning rapidly,

30:14SPEAKERis the law still the law if nobody enforces it?

30:16SPEAKER- Well, that's a whole other problem.

30:18SPEAKER- Well, anyway, that sucks.

30:21SPEAKERThat feels like a real escalation in the shittiness wars.

30:26SPEAKERI think that really feels like a broadside on the user.

30:29SPEAKER- Look, on one hand, I'm sympathetic

30:33SPEAKERto the people who've built businesses around content

30:36SPEAKERbecause it increasingly feels like

30:41SPEAKERthe only thing big tech companies are good at

30:43SPEAKERis racing to the bottom in whatever market they're in,

30:46SPEAKERwhether that's ads or phones or video

30:49SPEAKERor any number of other things.

30:51SPEAKER- Media.

30:52SPEAKER- Media, yeah, streaming media in general.

30:56SPEAKERBut at the same time, like, I don't know,

31:00SPEAKERmaybe support sites that don't do that shit

31:03SPEAKERand just stop going to those places, 'cause fuck them.

31:05SPEAKER- Yeah, did you see the news, the Game Informer is back?

31:09SPEAKER- Yeah, I didn't get to the bottom of it, though.

31:12SPEAKER- Somebody, like a new parent company bought the IP

31:15SPEAKERfrom GameStop, God help me, I am--

31:18SPEAKER- Oh, you did it, you did the thing!

31:20SPEAKER- It's starting to happen in my head frequently

31:22SPEAKERin a way that really bums me the fuck out

31:24SPEAKERof somebody who worked at GameSpot for five years.

31:27SPEAKER- I always felt bad about it.

31:30SPEAKERJeff and Ryan used to give me shit about it

31:31SPEAKER'cause I did it all the time.

31:32SPEAKER- I mean, I always found it repugnant

31:34SPEAKERand now I'm doing it myself.

31:37SPEAKERAnyway, a new company bought the property from GameStop

31:40SPEAKERand hired everybody back that lost their jobs last year.

31:44SPEAKERBut the reason I bring that up, yeah, it is awesome.

31:46SPEAKERThe reason I bring that up, though,

31:47SPEAKERis that even they seem like they're pivoting

31:49SPEAKERtoward a more directly user-supported,

31:52SPEAKERI mean, a subscription always has been user-supported

31:55SPEAKERin a sense, but they're doing it in a more tiered way

31:58SPEAKERwhere they're saying like, hey, subscribe to the website,

32:00SPEAKERyou'll get these benefits, we're rolling out more tiers

32:02SPEAKERlater on that'll, in a more kind of like post-patreon style

32:07SPEAKERof tiered support thing, like even they are going

32:10SPEAKERmore kind of direct to audience.

32:11SPEAKER- Well, and the thing, so they're doing print too, right?

32:15SPEAKER- Yeah, later, they haven't detailed that stuff.

32:17SPEAKERI think that stuff is a lot more vague, like hey,

32:19SPEAKERwe're looking to bring back the print publication

32:21SPEAKERlater this year.

32:22SPEAKER- It's like, it's funny, I don't have a lot of,

32:26SPEAKERI don't have like nostalgia for fondness for Game Informer

32:29SPEAKERbecause like the entire time I was aware of it,

32:33SPEAKERit was kind of like GameStop's house brand.

32:37SPEAKERAnd that always felt weird to me.

32:39SPEAKERI get that they ran into editorial,

32:41SPEAKERlike I know a bunch of people who work there

32:42SPEAKERand like they're all good people and smart people

32:45SPEAKERand Jason and Dan, you know, all the folks that were there.

32:47SPEAKERSo like, I'm not, no knock against them, I just, like,

32:53SPEAKERI don't know, it just felt, it's weird.

32:58SPEAKERI think it's lovely that they're coming back.

33:00SPEAKERThat's all, that's where I'll leave it.

33:01SPEAKER- Yeah, it's just interesting to see

33:03SPEAKERa relatively large established kind of legacy media brand

33:06SPEAKEReven pivoting in this more audience supported direction.

33:10SPEAKER- Yeah, it's like, so I guess the origin

33:12SPEAKERof my complicated feelings is I worked at a video game,

33:14SPEAKERa publisher that predominantly did video game magazines

33:18SPEAKERand every single one of our magazines

33:20SPEAKERwas competing with Game Informer,

33:22SPEAKERbut it was like 800 pound gorilla

33:24SPEAKERversus a little tiny baby magazines.

33:27SPEAKER- Yeah, because they were at point of sale in the store.

33:30SPEAKER- Well, and it was subsidized by GameStop, right?

33:34SPEAKER- Well, it was two things.

33:35SPEAKERThey were sitting there by the register in stores

33:37SPEAKERand they were also pushing subscriptions on people

33:40SPEAKERthat have like the kind of GameStop Pro rewards program,

33:43SPEAKERwhatever.

33:44SPEAKER- Yeah, and if you bought two games a month,

33:46SPEAKERthe pro rewards thing made sense, so everybody had it.

33:49SPEAKER- So their circulation was huge.

33:50SPEAKER- Their circulation was enormous.

33:52SPEAKERLike we were doing 500,000 copy circ magazines

33:55SPEAKERand they were like 17 million or something ridiculous.

33:58SPEAKER- Good Lord.

33:59SPEAKER- Yeah, so part of my, like I said,

34:02SPEAKERthis is not a knock against the people who worked there

34:04SPEAKER'cause they were great people doing good work,

34:07SPEAKERbut like I'm a little raw still 'cause it was like,

34:10SPEAKERit was like, I don't know, it's like everybody else is,

34:13SPEAKERlike you're, hey, on one hand, you have Taylor Swift

34:16SPEAKERand on the other hand, you have like somebody

34:18SPEAKERthat's playing down under the hill at the, you know,

34:21SPEAKERfor 50 people and it, yeah, anyway.

34:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

34:25SPEAKER- But I'm glad they're back.

34:26SPEAKERMore independent media is a good thing.

34:28SPEAKER- Yes, here's a question from Feral Pug.

34:32SPEAKERGod, can you imagine a feral pug?

34:35SPEAKER- I mean, I'm pretty sure I've seen him.

34:36SPEAKERI think most pugs are feral in my experience.

34:40SPEAKER- Gigabit ethernet switches vary a lot on price.

34:43SPEAKERA lot of TP-Link stuff out there for about 20 bucks,

34:46SPEAKERbut then things like Ubiquiti switches that are like 80.

34:49SPEAKERAm I going to be sorry I bought the $20 switch?

34:51SPEAKERMy use case is putting a switch in my entertainment setup

34:54SPEAKERso my TV and consoles can all connect via ethernet.

34:57SPEAKERYou absolutely will not be sorry about that.

34:59SPEAKER- No, the only thing you get-

35:00SPEAKER- $20 switch, totally, totally fine for that use case.

35:03SPEAKER- Yeah, the benefit of buying the more expensive switches

35:05SPEAKERis that they're managed, which means you can log into

35:08SPEAKERa remote console and see what's connected to each port

35:11SPEAKERand turn off ports on and off and turn on things like power.

35:14SPEAKERSometimes they'll have power over ethernet built in.

35:15SPEAKERYou can turn that on and off.

35:17SPEAKER- Yeah.

35:19SPEAKER- You can reboot them and update firmware and stuff remotely,

35:21SPEAKERbut most switches are, like for home use,

35:24SPEAKERa $20 switch is totally fine.

35:26SPEAKERThe only thing you want to do is make sure you get it

35:28SPEAKERat a speed that lines up with your internet connection

35:32SPEAKERand your connection to your PCs, and also

35:40SPEAKERthat you're not, some, you want a switch and not a hub.

35:44SPEAKERIt's less of a problem these days than it used to be.

35:47SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't know that you can really even readily

35:49SPEAKERfind a hub to buy at this point,

35:51SPEAKERso you're probably fine there.

35:53SPEAKER- I am, it's funny, I had this conversation a few months ago

35:57SPEAKERthere are some very, very cheap hubs.

35:59SPEAKERAnd the difference between the switch and the hub

36:01SPEAKERis that it's, the hubs have shared bandwidth

36:03SPEAKERacross the entire, all the ports.

36:05SPEAKER- Oh.

36:06SPEAKER- So it's like one gigabit shared across all five ports.

36:09SPEAKER- Yikes.

36:09SPEAKER- The switch will have one gigabit point-to-point

36:13SPEAKERfor as many ports as are active at a time.

36:15SPEAKER- Right.

36:16SPEAKER- Which for most people at home probably won't matter.

36:21SPEAKERThe thing that, I mean, especially since usually your hub

36:24SPEAKERhas an uplink to the place where the real internet comes in,

36:27SPEAKERthat's going to be the bottleneck anyway.

36:30SPEAKERYeah, so you're probably fine.

36:31SPEAKEREntertainment center, go nuts.

36:33SPEAKER- I am using a number of cheap TP-Link switches

36:36SPEAKERin my network here and have been for years.

36:37SPEAKERThey are a hundred percent fine.

36:38SPEAKERLike you know if you need a managed switch basically,

36:42SPEAKERand if you're just looking to connect

36:43SPEAKERsome home entertainment devices, you definitely don't.

36:46SPEAKER- The thing I do, I bought the expensive switches,

36:49SPEAKERbut it was just 'cause I wanted power over ethernet

36:51SPEAKER'cause my Ubiquiti access points

36:53SPEAKERare powered over power over ethernet.

36:55SPEAKERAnd I have a big switch in the garage

36:57SPEAKERthat provides power over ethernet.

36:58SPEAKERSo I power, like none of my switches

37:00SPEAKERare plugged into anything.

37:01SPEAKERThey all just run off downstream power over ethernet.

37:04SPEAKERAnd then like the switch that my home assistant

37:07SPEAKERis plugged into is powered off of power over ethernet.

37:09SPEAKERAnd so in that regard, it's really nice.

37:12SPEAKERIt does mean that my switch in the garage

37:14SPEAKERtakes so much power that I can't run it

37:16SPEAKERon a UPS anymore though, so.

37:18SPEAKER- They were making noise about banning TP-Link

37:21SPEAKERin the same way they banned some companies like Huawei.

37:24SPEAKER- Makes sense.

37:25SPEAKER- A while back, but I don't know what came of that.

37:29SPEAKER- Look, we're governing by Fiat over here, so.

37:32SPEAKER- I mean, I think this was even before

37:34SPEAKERthe current administration, I want to say,

37:36SPEAKERor I forget exactly when this talk started picking up

37:39SPEAKERand the main reason I pay attention to that

37:41SPEAKERon top of the switches being very cheap and quality,

37:44SPEAKERTP-Link was becoming a pretty big access point,

37:47SPEAKERwifi access point competitor to stuff like Ubiquiti.

37:49SPEAKERLike their model line is pretty popular.

37:51SPEAKERAnd I had been looking at maybe getting one of those,

37:54SPEAKERbut if they're going to get banned in three months,

37:56SPEAKERthat doesn't seem like the best idea, so.

37:58SPEAKER- So we tested some of those at PC World

38:02SPEAKERand I tested some of their mesh network stuff actually.

38:04SPEAKERAnd it's really nice, it was really good.

38:06SPEAKER- Yeah, I wonder if we're going to see

38:08SPEAKERtwo and a half gigabit ports on the new consoles.

38:10SPEAKERI mean, granted, that's like probably pushing three years

38:12SPEAKERaway before those are on the market, but.

38:14SPEAKER- That feels to me like a thing that it doesn't,

38:17SPEAKERlike there's probably no cost to have,

38:19SPEAKERgiven that there'll be in the chipsets.

38:21SPEAKER- You would hope, yeah, it almost certainly would be

38:23SPEAKERsupported at hardware level anyway,

38:24SPEAKERso why not just put the port on?

38:25SPEAKERI mean, I don't know, what are we talking to 10 cent savings

38:28SPEAKERor something on the port that you put in your box?

38:31SPEAKER- I don't, I don't actually know.

38:32SPEAKERI mean, I was going to ask if you think we'll have ethernet

38:35SPEAKERon the next gen consoles.

38:36SPEAKER- Oh God, please don't even say that.

38:37SPEAKER- Wi-Fi only, baby.

38:38SPEAKER- Fuck that, no thank you.

38:41SPEAKERThe fighting game community would not take kindly to that.

38:44SPEAKERI'll tell you that.

38:45SPEAKER- But Wi-Fi is, oh yeah, that's true, competitive games.

38:47SPEAKERBut if you're really competitive,

38:48SPEAKERyou're going to be playing on PC anyway, right?

38:50SPEAKER- Eh, maybe, I don't know.

38:51SPEAKEREh, there's plenty of people on console.

38:53SPEAKERI'm just spinning like eight different topics out

38:55SPEAKERfrom this one question, but what is up with smart TVs

38:59SPEAKERstill having a hundred megabit ports?

39:01SPEAKER- They don't use more data than that probably?

39:03SPEAKER- Practically every smart TV on the market

39:05SPEAKERthat I've looked at has a hundred and-

39:07SPEAKER- Really?

39:08SPEAKER- Yeah, they almost never have gigabit ports on there.

39:10SPEAKER- Oh, that's weird.

39:10SPEAKER- Which, I mean, you're not wrong for most use cases,

39:12SPEAKEReven streaming 4K from Netflix is not a big deal.

39:15SPEAKER- It's like 20 megabits, yeah.

39:16SPEAKER- Maybe if you're trying to play an extra high bit rate file

39:19SPEAKERover your LAN, that could be a problem, but anyway.

39:22SPEAKER- If you're doing that, you should have a dedicated box.

39:25SPEAKERBrad.

39:26SPEAKER- You're probably right.

39:27SPEAKER- Brad.

39:28SPEAKER- You're probably right.

39:29SPEAKERAll right, Chip Shirley has a question.

39:32SPEAKERPC hardware reviewers lately use the term uplift

39:36SPEAKERinstead of something like improvement.

39:38SPEAKERI've heard one Will Smith use this term as well.

39:41SPEAKERWhy the preference for uplift over more broadly used terms?

39:44SPEAKER- Often when you're saying, when you're talking about things

39:48SPEAKERand you're talking about a sequence of things

39:49SPEAKERand you're like recounting benchmark results

39:51SPEAKERover and over and over again,

39:52SPEAKERyou get tired of saying the same word every single time.

39:55SPEAKERSo we use different words to vary up the shapes

39:59SPEAKERthat our mouths make.

40:00SPEAKER- Yes, but yes, I guess that's one way to look at it.

40:02SPEAKERI mean, like the kind of specific term like that

40:04SPEAKERcan also sort of take on a connotation over time

40:08SPEAKERif you use it enough, right?

40:09SPEAKERLike it's kind of a meme right now, yeah.

40:11SPEAKERImprovement is a very broad word that is applicable

40:13SPEAKERin a million contexts.

40:15SPEAKERAnd you don't really hear the word uplift very often,

40:17SPEAKERexcept in the context of improvements in performance

40:22SPEAKERand stats in the PC review space.

40:24SPEAKERSo like you could kind of come to associate that term

40:27SPEAKERwith your mental model of whatever improvements

40:29SPEAKERyou're looking for in hardware.

40:30SPEAKER- Yeah, the other one that's happened

40:32SPEAKERthat I've noticed a lot lately is like the vendors

40:34SPEAKERwill describe the kind of meta uplift

40:39SPEAKERacross all the benchmarks that they test.

40:42SPEAKER- So it's like a truthy, like it feels faster.

40:45SPEAKER- Yeah, so they tack in a couple of games

40:47SPEAKERthat are real like stone cold,

40:49SPEAKERincredible performance boost bangers, like 300%.

40:52SPEAKERAnd then you'll have a bunch of like 2% lifts in there.

40:55SPEAKERAnd then your meta uplift,

40:58SPEAKERI can't remember the term they use is like 30%, right?

41:04SPEAKERBut not really, anyway.

41:06SPEAKER- Sounds like another attempt at obfuscation to me.

41:08SPEAKER- What is it?

41:09SPEAKERYou can use statistics for good

41:10SPEAKERor you can use statistics for evil, yeah.

41:13SPEAKER- All right, here's a question you flagged from James.

41:16SPEAKERI don't have a great answer for this.

41:17SPEAKERWhy in this age of laptops and small form factor keyboards

41:20SPEAKERdo alt codes still require a freaking numpad?

41:24SPEAKERI have a perfectly adequate series

41:26SPEAKERof number keys right here.

41:28SPEAKERSo if you are in a 10 keyless,

41:31SPEAKERI don't know why this is, I think it's goofy.

41:33SPEAKERBut if you are in a 10 keyless,

41:35SPEAKERthe thing you do is you make a new layer on your keyboard

41:38SPEAKERand you bind like the JKL, UIO, N comma period keys

41:45SPEAKERto be a fake 10 keyless, a 10 keypad.

41:49SPEAKERAnd that's how you do it.

41:50SPEAKERThat's how you get your problem.

41:51SPEAKER- That sounds like a lot of work.

41:54SPEAKER- I mean.

41:55SPEAKER- What if you just got a keyboard with a numpad?

41:57SPEAKER- I like having my wrist not jacked up

41:59SPEAKERand having the numpad hurts me.

42:00SPEAKER- Check this out.

42:02SPEAKER- That's too wide, dude.

42:02SPEAKER- Look at that numpad.

42:04SPEAKER- That is not an Apple keyboard.

42:05SPEAKERThat's wireless and it's black.

42:07SPEAKER- That's right.

42:08SPEAKER- Are you okay, Brad?

42:09SPEAKER- Is it black?

42:10SPEAKERCan't see the navy blue.

42:10SPEAKER- Oh, it looks black on camera,

42:12SPEAKERbut I believe that it's navy blue.

42:13SPEAKER- I just bought some new key caps for it.

42:15SPEAKER- Yeah, the Olivetti, Olivetti TTY key caps look nice.

42:18SPEAKER- Yeah, I like a numpad.

42:20SPEAKER- I have a removable numpad for spreadsheet days.

42:22SPEAKER- Yeah, that's probably fine.

42:23SPEAKERI use a numpad every day though.

42:25SPEAKERI use it all the time.

42:26SPEAKER- Really, does that how you play games?

42:28SPEAKER- Not often.

42:29SPEAKERI mean, like Caves of Kud used the numpad

42:31SPEAKERby default for a few minutes.

42:32SPEAKER- Oh God, oh no.

42:34SPEAKER- I did not become a Caves of Kud sicko.

42:37SPEAKER- I...

42:37SPEAKER- Only for what it's worth.

42:38SPEAKER- I have tried that game so many times

42:40SPEAKERand I always fall asleep.

42:42SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm fascinated by it in concept.

42:45SPEAKERI just don't know if it works for me

42:47SPEAKERin the way that I wish it did.

42:49SPEAKER- I need to start playing it sometime

42:51SPEAKERat like 10 o'clock in the morning

42:52SPEAKERwhen I can stream it

42:54SPEAKERand have people tell me how to do it for a little bit.

42:56SPEAKER- I think.

42:57SPEAKER- Stream it, yeah, actually streaming it

42:58SPEAKERsounds like the way to go.

42:59SPEAKERMaybe we should stream it sometime.

43:01SPEAKER- Maybe we should be Caves of Kud streamers, Brad.

43:03SPEAKERIs there multiplayer?

43:04SPEAKERIt's only single player, right?

43:05SPEAKER- I don't think so.

43:05SPEAKERI'm pretty sure it's single player only

43:06SPEAKERfor people who don't know.

43:08SPEAKERCaves of Kud is kind of like

43:09SPEAKERif Dwarf Fortress was a roguelike.

43:12SPEAKER- Dwarf Fortress is a roguelike.

43:13SPEAKER- No, no, no.

43:14SPEAKERDwarf Fortress is a sprawling empire building simulation.

43:18SPEAKER- But like it's different every time.

43:20SPEAKERIt follows all the rules.

43:21SPEAKER- What I mean is Dwarf Fortress is a literal management sim,

43:24SPEAKERwhereas this is a, this is an RPG.

43:26SPEAKERYou are controlling a character

43:28SPEAKERand moving around the world.

43:29SPEAKER- Yeah, I guess.

43:30SPEAKER- So it is a little bit, but it's the very same,

43:32SPEAKERit's the same kind of like very simplistic graphics,

43:35SPEAKERbut extremely deep simulation.

43:36SPEAKERIt's got a combat log you need to follow

43:39SPEAKERjust like Dwarf Fortress, like it's that kind of thing.

43:41SPEAKER- Yeah, it's a lot.

43:41SPEAKER- It's a very interesting game, but it's a lot.

43:43SPEAKER- It's the kind of game that you feel like

43:44SPEAKERyou have to watch like 10 videos before you start playing

43:46SPEAKERso you understand what's going on.

43:47SPEAKER- Uh-huh, 100%.

43:49SPEAKERAnyway, good game to have a numpad for.

43:52SPEAKER- Gross.

43:53SPEAKERQuestion from TJ, what are your thoughts

43:55SPEAKERon creating a separate partition on a large SSD

43:58SPEAKERthat is dedicated to a Windows install?

44:01SPEAKERShort of putting Windows on its own drive,

44:03SPEAKERI always thought this was a good practice,

44:04SPEAKERas if the Windows install corrupts,

44:06SPEAKERit won't take any other data with it,

44:08SPEAKERassuming personal files and games

44:09SPEAKERare on another partition or drive.

44:11SPEAKERBut searching around online, I see conflicting opinions

44:14SPEAKERon whether it's worth the effort.

44:16SPEAKER- Yeah, so that's kind of, that's kind of it.

44:20SPEAKERI've been, it's funny, I've been thinking about this a lot,

44:22SPEAKERbecause I'm working on another thing about it.

44:24SPEAKERBut remember the old days when you had to reinstall Windows

44:27SPEAKERlike once a year to kind of keep it running good,

44:29SPEAKERand then Windows 10 came out and we don't do that anymore?

44:33SPEAKERYeah, it's, I think this is a direction

44:37SPEAKERwe're gonna end up getting with Windows eventually.

44:39SPEAKERMy guess is that like OS 10 and a lot of Linuxes,

44:42SPEAKERWindows becomes immutable at some point,

44:43SPEAKERwhere the OS is essentially untouchable.

44:46SPEAKER- Yeah, we, I mean, this would be a tough subject

44:48SPEAKERto dig into because it's intensely technical

44:50SPEAKERand it's not something you can really put your hands on,

44:52SPEAKERbut immutable OSes has become a pretty interesting topic.

44:55SPEAKERThere is a site I follow, 'cause of course I do,

44:58SPEAKERfor every Mac OS release, they do the work

45:01SPEAKERand document exactly what Mac OS looks like

45:03SPEAKERunder the hood on a drive now.

45:05SPEAKERIt is insane, it is completely insane

45:08SPEAKERwhat a Mac OS install looks like now.

45:11SPEAKERLike it is so many, it is so many different little partitions

45:14SPEAKERand sub volumes and they are cryptographically signed

45:17SPEAKERand sealed and they're combined into snapshots at boot time.

45:21SPEAKERLike I could barely explain it to your looking glassy eyed,

45:24SPEAKERare you looking this up?

45:26SPEAKER- No, no, no, so I was doing research on this

45:28SPEAKERand I found the site that I think you're talking about,

45:30SPEAKERI can't remember what it's called.

45:31SPEAKER- Is it, does it have like a big block diagram

45:33SPEAKERof what the partition scheme looks like?

45:34SPEAKER- For each one, yeah, it's incredible.

45:36SPEAKER- It's mind bending, like what Apple is doing

45:39SPEAKERto keep anybody from tampering with the OS

45:41SPEAKERon your drive these days is like complete insanity.

45:44SPEAKER- Well, but I mean, so there's real benefit to it, right?

45:47SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not saying it's like a bad thing,

45:49SPEAKERit's just hard to understand.

45:50SPEAKERIf you're a lunatic like me and you want to make

45:52SPEAKERlike a bootable backup of your Mac OS install drive,

45:54SPEAKERfor example, like it's pretty tricky, tricky, not trippy,

45:58SPEAKERalthough both actually.

45:59SPEAKER- But also you don't have to because your OS 10 install drive

46:03SPEAKERis just the same as every other OS 10 machine out there.

46:06SPEAKER- So that's-- - Or OS 11, I guess.

46:08SPEAKER- Yeah, OS 15 or whatever they're on now.

46:10SPEAKERThat's actually, that's an interesting downstream consequence

46:12SPEAKERof the way Apple is doing things now.

46:13SPEAKERYou don't need to install, or I'm sorry,

46:15SPEAKERyou don't need to wipe and reinstall your Mac OS anymore

46:18SPEAKERbecause it is a, every Mac OS install

46:21SPEAKERis now a bit exact copy of every other Mac OS install.

46:24SPEAKER- Yeah. - So you just do

46:25SPEAKERa factory reset and it wipes all of the user data

46:28SPEAKERand you are back to a fresh, you know,

46:30SPEAKERexactly as if you had reinstalled anyway, it's crazy.

46:34SPEAKERI will say before we move on,

46:35SPEAKERjust 'cause I'm rambling about the things

46:36SPEAKERI spend my free time on.

46:38SPEAKERApple has a tool for backing up

46:39SPEAKERa modern ARM Macs system drive, it's called ASR.

46:44SPEAKER- Oh. - You might wanna look up.

46:46SPEAKERIt's a command line, it's a command line utility

46:48SPEAKERwith a full-on man page, like it's that level of low level,

46:52SPEAKERbut there does exist the capability to properly back up

46:55SPEAKERa Mac OS drive now with that tool if you want to,

46:59SPEAKERyou really want to spend the time doing that,

47:00SPEAKERlike I probably will at some point.

47:02SPEAKERI need to wipe my laptop and I just wanna

47:04SPEAKERmake sure everything's backed up anyway.

47:05SPEAKER- It's the Eclectic Light Company

47:07SPEAKERis the site that I was talking about.

47:09SPEAKER- That sounds right.

47:11SPEAKER- I'm gonna send you a link to the post and you can--

47:13SPEAKER- That is them, yes, absolutely.

47:15SPEAKERI'll put a link to that in as well.

47:17SPEAKERIt is a lot to wrap your head around.

47:20SPEAKER- Yeah, so to answer your question about the Windows thing

47:24SPEAKERis the benefit of doing a separate partition

47:28SPEAKERin the old days was it made it easy to image your C drive

47:31SPEAKERand then restore your C drive from an image

47:34SPEAKERwhen something got crufted up, right?

47:37SPEAKERI don't know that you have to do that work anymore

47:40SPEAKERand you don't get an easy way.

47:44SPEAKERLike if you reinstall on top of that,

47:45SPEAKERit's not gonna be any different than if it's on the partition

47:48SPEAKERwith everything else.

47:50SPEAKERIf the drive fails, that problem is gonna be the same.

47:54SPEAKERIf your drive is corrupting regularly,

47:57SPEAKERyou have a larger problem with your hardware

47:58SPEAKERthat is not related to Windows.

48:01SPEAKERLike you have something jacked up with your memory

48:02SPEAKERor overclocking your CPU too much or something like that.

48:05SPEAKERYour Windows install should not get corrupted regularly.

48:09SPEAKERThat is where we're at with Windows at this point.

48:12SPEAKERIf you're on Windows 10 or 11, it should be pretty good.

48:14SPEAKERAnd if it is, you can do the SFC space slash scan now

48:19SPEAKERto find the corrupted files and restore them

48:22SPEAKERfrom the restore partition,

48:24SPEAKERwhich is like a hidden 700 meg partition

48:27SPEAKERon the backside of your drive or gig, 70 gig.

48:30SPEAKERI can't remember.

48:31SPEAKERIt's a relatively small partition

48:32SPEAKERon the back end of your drive.

48:34SPEAKER- Yeah, so it's the little add-on partitions like that

48:37SPEAKERthat actually make me still fairly distrustful

48:39SPEAKERof the Windows installer based on past experience.

48:41SPEAKERLike it's funny, like all the work I have been doing

48:43SPEAKERwith UEFI and Linux and stuff over the last couple months

48:46SPEAKERis around trying to just finally understand

48:50SPEAKERlike modern partition schemes and bootloaders

48:52SPEAKERand how like a modern PC works once you press power.

48:57SPEAKERSo the point that like I'm installing new Linux

48:58SPEAKERis by just like dropping into a command line

49:00SPEAKERand G discing the partition layout on the disk

49:03SPEAKERhowever I want it and doing like a CH root install

49:06SPEAKERor whatever.

49:07SPEAKERBut I would never do that for Windows

49:08SPEAKERbecause I don't trust what it does

49:10SPEAKERwhen it runs the installer.

49:11SPEAKER- Oh, I think he's asking something different than that.

49:13SPEAKERI don't think he's saying keep the installer on the drive.

49:15SPEAKERI think he's saying--

49:16SPEAKER- No, no, no, I'm just offering that as a preamble

49:19SPEAKERto say like I feel very comfortable now

49:21SPEAKERworking with manual partitioning

49:22SPEAKERand manually putting OSs on different partitions

49:25SPEAKERlike he's describing.

49:26SPEAKERWhat I'm saying is that the Windows installer

49:28SPEAKERis opinionated enough about what it wants to do on its own

49:32SPEAKERthat once you hit install,

49:34SPEAKERlike I can't predict what it's gonna do to the point

49:35SPEAKERthat I don't think I would actually bother

49:37SPEAKERtrying to do something like this

49:38SPEAKERbecause I've had the Windows installer

49:40SPEAKERput that recovery partition on a whole separate drive

49:42SPEAKERfrom the one it was putting the system install on before.

49:45SPEAKERThat's the kind of point that I'm trying to make.

49:47SPEAKERI'm inclined to just give Windows a whole drive

49:50SPEAKERand let it do what it's gonna do.

49:52SPEAKER- And just work around it, yeah.

49:53SPEAKER- Yes, because it wants to do what it's gonna do anyway

49:56SPEAKERand I would just be worried about unsupported behavior

50:00SPEAKERif you try to install it away

50:02SPEAKERother than Microsoft expects you to.

50:03SPEAKER- Well, and post UEFI Windows

50:06SPEAKERalso has some really specific requirements

50:08SPEAKERabout what the last partition on the drive is.

50:10SPEAKERSo if you change that stuff around,

50:16SPEAKERfor example, I have two SSDs, two two terabyte SSDs

50:19SPEAKERand I needed to image one onto the other

50:22SPEAKERand the new one is 75 megabytes smaller than the old one.

50:28SPEAKEROh, that's no problem, you just shrink the partition

50:29SPEAKERand then you move the old partition back

50:32SPEAKERand you do an image across and it works, right?

50:35SPEAKERNo, it won't boot 'cause then the end of the back partition

50:38SPEAKERis in the wrong place

50:39SPEAKERand you have to do a bunch of boot repair stuff

50:41SPEAKERand it's an enormous pain in the ass.

50:43SPEAKERJust use Windows, let Windows manage itself

50:46SPEAKERand like I said, if your C drive

50:48SPEAKERis getting corrupted regularly,

50:49SPEAKERyou need to figure out what's wrong with your computer

50:51SPEAKER'cause something is jacked up.

50:52SPEAKER- Right, all right, question from Lovik.

50:55SPEAKERLong ago in a console generation a long time away,

50:58SPEAKERthe heyday of a voice chat in video games

51:01SPEAKERwas centered on Xbox Live.

51:02SPEAKERI know I personally haven't used it myself

51:04SPEAKERsince the 360 in favor of things like Discord,

51:07SPEAKERTeamSpeak or Skype, but game developers keep including it.

51:12SPEAKERIs there secretly a large portion of users that still use it

51:14SPEAKERor is it a feature that's included to check a box?

51:19SPEAKER- Well, okay, so cross-play games,

51:22SPEAKERa lot of players on the console use the default voice chat

51:25SPEAKERthat's built into the console.

51:26SPEAKERSo they'll voice with their party if they're in a party,

51:29SPEAKERbut people who play solo often use the in-game chat

51:33SPEAKERto speak to other people in their party, all sorts of stuff.

51:36SPEAKERAnd for cross-play, you really need it

51:41SPEAKERuntil fairly recently.

51:42SPEAKERYou need in-game voice chat for games to support cross-play

51:45SPEAKERbecause if, Brad, if you're playing on a PlayStation,

51:47SPEAKERI'm playing on an Xbox,

51:49SPEAKERwe would have to have some sort of weird phone

51:51SPEAKERor external-based solution to use Discord

51:53SPEAKERon both of those platforms until fairly recently.

51:58SPEAKERThe PC space has mostly moved away from in-game.

52:01SPEAKERHowever, the other exception is games that use ProxChat,

52:06SPEAKERthat kinda came on, I feel like Lethal Company

52:09SPEAKERwas the first thing that I saw

52:10SPEAKERthat really used ProxChat recently.

52:12SPEAKER- Yeah, I can't think of anything before that.

52:13SPEAKERIt's becoming a thing.

52:14SPEAKERIt's surprisingly common all of a sudden.

52:17SPEAKER- Well, hold on.

52:18SPEAKERIt was a thing a long time ago too.

52:20SPEAKER- Look, I know it's always been.

52:21SPEAKERIt's been a thing since the first "Halo"

52:23SPEAKERwas being demoed right on the Macintosh,

52:26SPEAKERbut it's never caught on in the way it is now,

52:28SPEAKERis what I'm saying.

52:29SPEAKERLike it's, I don't know. - Oh, it was great

52:31SPEAKERon "Halo 2" on the Xbox.

52:32SPEAKERWhen you sneak up behind somebody and shiv 'em,

52:34SPEAKERyou're like, "Hey man, I got you."

52:36SPEAKER- Wow.

52:37SPEAKER- And then they hear that in their ear

52:38SPEAKERcoming out of their speakers.

52:39SPEAKER- I must have played the wrong multiplayer games.

52:41SPEAKERI feel like people have never really cared

52:43SPEAKERabout Proximity voice chat that much

52:44SPEAKERuntil the last year or two.

52:45SPEAKER- So I played "Halo 2" with a group

52:48SPEAKERof other magazine editors and Xbox people

52:51SPEAKERand OXM editors and stuff like that for years.

52:54SPEAKERAnd we all used the ProxChat because it was super fun.

52:58SPEAKERWhen you're playing with somebody,

52:58SPEAKERyou jump in the back of their car

53:00SPEAKERand then you start whacking 'em.

53:02SPEAKERYou're like, "Oh, you can give 'em some grief

53:04SPEAKER'cause you know 'em."

53:05SPEAKERI would never do it in the wild internet

53:07SPEAKERbecause, no thank you.

53:09SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I think what's different now

53:11SPEAKERis that there are very good both gameplay

53:13SPEAKERand atmospheric reasons to constrain the voice chat like that

53:16SPEAKERlike people are coming up with design reasons

53:18SPEAKERto include it and feature it in a way

53:21SPEAKERthat they never did before.

53:22SPEAKER- There was an "Among Us" mod that was popular

53:24SPEAKERduring the pandemic for the PC version of "Among Us"

53:27SPEAKERthat added ProxChat.

53:29SPEAKERSo when you'd sneak up behind somebody and kill 'em,

53:32SPEAKERyou could talk to 'em a little bit beforehand.

53:34SPEAKERAnd that was incredible 'cause it went from being a game

53:37SPEAKERwhere everybody had to be silent

53:38SPEAKERwhen they were out doing their tasks to,

53:42SPEAKERthere's table talk and some kind of smack talk.

53:45SPEAKERBut yeah, I think to your point,

53:46SPEAKERthe games like, what's the ghost hunting game?

53:51SPEAKER- Phasmophobia.

53:52SPEAKER- Phasmophobia and Lethal Company and Content Warning

53:55SPEAKERand Void Crew and like those have taken,

54:00SPEAKERI think what, honestly, I think what happened

54:02SPEAKERis that Vivox started doing in-game chat

54:07SPEAKERand letting you hook it into your main audio system

54:10SPEAKERinstead of just being its own thing that lived outside.

54:12SPEAKERAnd then you can add like filters

54:14SPEAKERand make it a gameplay element

54:16SPEAKERrather than just a way to talk to your friends.

54:21SPEAKER- Vivox is a middleware for audio communication, right?

54:24SPEAKER- Yeah, shout out to ChromeHounds, the OG in this space.

54:28SPEAKER- Yes, like ChromeHounds is a very early example

54:30SPEAKERof a game that used voice chat in a clever way

54:32SPEAKERto enhance the gameplay and was criminally underappreciated.

54:35SPEAKER- Well, I mean, the thing that you're referencing

54:38SPEAKERis that when you started the game,

54:40SPEAKERyou didn't have voice chat unless there was a specific,

54:43SPEAKERlike a goal captured on the map by your team.

54:47SPEAKERSo you had to go and capture the antenna.

54:48SPEAKERSo, and then you'd only have voice chat

54:50SPEAKERin a bubble around that.

54:51SPEAKERIt was amazing.

54:52SPEAKER- Right, yep, cool idea.

54:54SPEAKER- But that wouldn't work in Discord

54:55SPEAKER'cause people would just cheat now, right?

54:56SPEAKER- Right, yeah, that's fair.

54:59SPEAKERLet's see, how about I'll go back to the emails

55:01SPEAKERfor a minute as promised.

55:03SPEAKERDavid from Holliston, Massachusetts.

55:06SPEAKER- Okay.

55:07SPEAKER- Will recently floated the idea of using a NUC,

55:09SPEAKERthat's the little tiny--

55:11SPEAKER- Nuclear unit of computing. - X86 box.

55:13SPEAKERYes, the formerly Intel, I guess now owned by Asus, right?

55:17SPEAKER- MSI also makes things that they call NUCs, so.

55:19SPEAKER- Oh really, maybe it's just a generic term now?

55:21SPEAKER- I don't know what happened there, but yeah.

55:23SPEAKERI thought Asus bought the NUC name, but I guess not.

55:25SPEAKERBut it's a little tiny X86 boxes.

55:28SPEAKER- Yeah, like Apple TV sized things.

55:29SPEAKER- Yes, yes.

55:30SPEAKERWill floated the idea of using a NUC as his daily driver

55:33SPEAKERand reserving the power hungry high-end PC for gaming.

55:36SPEAKERI'm also interested in this kind of setup,

55:38SPEAKERbut how would you do it?

55:40SPEAKERThe KVM is the first thing that comes to mind,

55:42SPEAKERbut is there any KVM on the market

55:44SPEAKERthat can handle your average enthusiast system?

55:47SPEAKERI have a 1440p 144 hertz G-Sync monitor

55:50SPEAKERplus two other displays, wired USB input devices,

55:53SPEAKERa USB headset and webcam,

55:56SPEAKERand all of the other connected bits on my desk

55:58SPEAKERthat I want to continue to use on both PCs.

56:01SPEAKERSwitching monitor inputs alone isn't practical for all that.

56:03SPEAKERAnd KVMs seem squarely targeted

56:06SPEAKERat other markets like data centers, AV setups,

56:09SPEAKERor business home offices where latency is less of a concern.

56:13SPEAKERPi KVM doesn't seem quite up to the task yet.

56:15SPEAKERAs a Pi KVM owner, I can attest

56:17SPEAKERit absolutely is not suited for this use case.

56:20SPEAKERDoes a proven reasonably priced

56:22SPEAKERenthusiast-friendly solution exist?

56:24SPEAKERSomething that acts as a proxy

56:26SPEAKERfor almost every important peripheral to PC connection

56:29SPEAKERhas to be rock solid and practically invisible.

56:32SPEAKER- Yep, the thing you want is called a USB switch,

56:34SPEAKERand it's just a stupid switch that connects the USB devices

56:38SPEAKERfrom one computer to another one,

56:40SPEAKERand then you're gonna change the input on the monitor.

56:42SPEAKER- Okay, so that is two steps,

56:44SPEAKERwhich maybe a little bit of extra management,

56:46SPEAKERbut probably not that big a deal.

56:47SPEAKER- What if you had control your monitor

56:49SPEAKERto change the input for you?

56:50SPEAKER- That's true.

56:52SPEAKERI mean, you still gotta press a button to do that, but--

56:54SPEAKER- It's true.

56:55SPEAKER- It's not so bad. - It's not so bad.

56:56SPEAKER- You could just make a desktop shortcut for that

56:57SPEAKERor put it on your stream deck or something like I do.

57:00SPEAKER- Yeah, so the problem is the KVM is a translation layer,

57:02SPEAKERso it takes the input from one thing

57:05SPEAKERand splits it out to the other,

57:07SPEAKERand typically they don't play well

57:08SPEAKERwith high refresh rate monitors

57:10SPEAKERor things like HDR probably would be my guess.

57:12SPEAKERSo, and at the same time,

57:14SPEAKERthey also add latency in the input side,

57:17SPEAKER'cause it basically is showing up.

57:20SPEAKERIt takes, a KVM traditionally would show up

57:23SPEAKERto your mouse and keyboard as a device,

57:26SPEAKERand then it translates those inputs out.

57:28SPEAKERSo if you have a bunch of weird buttons on your mouse,

57:31SPEAKERor if you have media keys or something like that,

57:33SPEAKERthey may or may not get translated and passed on.

57:36SPEAKERAnd things like your Logitech G hub controller

57:39SPEAKERwon't be able to, software won't be able to change the DPI

57:42SPEAKERof your monitor from the software, stuff like that.

57:45SPEAKERSo, so yeah, your instincts are good here,

57:48SPEAKERbut a Belkin makes dumb USB switches

57:51SPEAKERthat have you just stick a little button on your desk

57:54SPEAKERand you hit the button

57:54SPEAKERand it switches between the two computers

57:56SPEAKERand you're good to go.

57:57SPEAKER- Yep, yep, sounds like a nice,

58:00SPEAKERI like a good, dumb, cheap workable solution like that.

58:04SPEAKER- Yeah, they're like 40 bucks.

58:05SPEAKERThe only trick is, there's a cheap one that's USB two,

58:09SPEAKERthere's a more expensive one that's USB three.

58:12SPEAKERIf you're using USB-C keyboards that draw a lot of power

58:15SPEAKERfor lights, you probably need the USB-C one,

58:19SPEAKERotherwise the USB two one will probably work fine.

58:21SPEAKER- Sorry, I don't know if you mentioned,

58:23SPEAKERare these typically powered?

58:24SPEAKER- Unpowered, typically.

58:26SPEAKER- Okay.

58:26SPEAKER- Or I think, I think technically the one that I have

58:29SPEAKERhas a micro USB power in that I power from a five amp,

58:35SPEAKERa 500 milliamp USB plug.

58:39SPEAKER- Yeah, let's do a couple of quick questions about,

58:43SPEAKERI don't know, DRM authentication.

58:45SPEAKER- Oh, I love DRM.

58:47SPEAKER- Trying to think what bucket these fall into exactly.

58:49SPEAKERYou'll see what I mean when I read the questions though.

58:52SPEAKERHere's one from Flip Triples, which is a good username.

58:54SPEAKER- That is a good username.

58:56SPEAKER- I recently started studying for the CISSP

58:59SPEAKERto access the official study guides online content.

59:02SPEAKERYou're met with a DRM prompt.

59:04SPEAKERAnswer the following question to validate your product.

59:06SPEAKERIn chapter 11, what is the fifth word of the caption

59:10SPEAKERfor figure 11.3?

59:12SPEAKER- That is some eighties video game nonsense.

59:15SPEAKER- Are there any other products out there still using

59:17SPEAKERthis kind of MS-DOS era DRM?

59:19SPEAKERWhen was the last time you encountered it?

59:22SPEAKER- I have not seen something like that

59:24SPEAKERsince I was playing like Leisure Suit Larry games

59:26SPEAKERin the nineties probably.

59:27SPEAKER- Yeah, like 100% like Sierra games

59:29SPEAKERor games of that nature in that era.

59:31SPEAKERProbably the last time I saw something like that,

59:33SPEAKERpretty easily defeated.

59:34SPEAKER- Do you ever have one of the ones

59:35SPEAKERwith the red decoder thing

59:36SPEAKERthat you had to put over the manual and it popped up?

59:39SPEAKER- I don't think I ever had anything

59:40SPEAKERother than exactly what's being proposed here,

59:42SPEAKERwhich is just the like eighth word

59:45SPEAKERof the fifth page type stuff.

59:46SPEAKERI never had any of the fancy ones.

59:48SPEAKER- The fun part about that was as soon as I got access

59:50SPEAKERto the internet, I realized that all you had to do

59:52SPEAKERwas search for the...

59:54SPEAKER'Cause like when those games were popular,

59:57SPEAKERI lived in a dorm and people would come by

59:59SPEAKERand borrow games and stuff all the time, right?

1:00:02SPEAKER'Cause it's basically like a casual piracy ring

1:00:05SPEAKERover in the freshman dorms.

1:00:07SPEAKERAnd somebody would grab the manual

1:00:10SPEAKERand then I was just like,

1:00:11SPEAKER"Well, I'm gonna go look and see if this is on Usenet."

1:00:13SPEAKERAnd I went and looked and it wasn't just the manual

1:00:15SPEAKERthat was on Usenet, 'cause that would have been

1:00:16SPEAKERa big download.

1:00:17SPEAKERIt was like, here are the 20 different prompts

1:00:20SPEAKERthat it gives you in the passcode.

1:00:21SPEAKER- Of course.

1:00:22SPEAKER- And I was like, "Oh man, this is the saddest piracy

1:00:26SPEAKERI've ever participated in."

1:00:28SPEAKER- That's pretty good, yeah.

1:00:30SPEAKERI don't know why this question made me think of this,

1:00:32SPEAKERbut I went and looked it up right before this.

1:00:34SPEAKERHave you seen FreeDOS?

1:00:36SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:00:37SPEAKER- Okay, are you familiar with it?

1:00:38SPEAKERI might start tinkering with FreeDOS a little bit.

1:00:40SPEAKER- FreeDOS is the open source disk operating system

1:00:44SPEAKERthat's compatible with like DOS 6.2 or something?

1:00:46SPEAKER- Yes, yes, it is a new open source implementation

1:00:49SPEAKERof MS-DOS.

1:00:50SPEAKERLike it not emulates, but it re-implements

1:00:53SPEAKERall of the system calls of DOS and stuff.

1:00:55SPEAKERSo it's fully compatible with basically everything,

1:00:59SPEAKERlike every, I think more or less every DOS program

1:01:01SPEAKERand only Windows up to 2.0, unfortunately.

1:01:03SPEAKER- It's fun because it's the same,

1:01:05SPEAKERthey're doing the same thing with open source

1:01:07SPEAKERthat Microsoft did to IBM or Compaq did with IBM, right?

1:01:12SPEAKERMicrosoft did with IBM, I guess, yeah, anyway.

1:01:14SPEAKER- But you can install it on a modern computer.

1:01:16SPEAKERSo you could like, you could boot FreeDOS

1:01:19SPEAKERon your 9800X3D and play X-Wing that way natively.

1:01:23SPEAKER- I don't have a floppy drive anymore.

1:01:25SPEAKER- You can boot it off a USB stick or whatever as well.

1:01:28SPEAKER- Have you tried to play X-Wing on the DOS,

1:01:31SPEAKERon the F486 core for the MR?

1:01:33SPEAKER- No.

1:01:34SPEAKER- I'm kind of curious,

1:01:35SPEAKER'cause I think it's a little slow, right?

1:01:36SPEAKERIt's like 25 hertz or something, 25 megahertz.

1:01:39SPEAKER- I think that, I think the 486 core is like,

1:01:43SPEAKERtechnically actually like a high end 386

1:01:45SPEAKERin terms of performance, or maybe a 486 SX25,

1:01:48SPEAKERsomething like that.

1:01:49SPEAKER- Yeah, that was not very fast.

1:01:51SPEAKER- You'd be much better off with something like FreeDOS.

1:01:53SPEAKERI kind of want to mess with that thing.

1:01:55SPEAKERI'm kind of, I'm kind of becoming fascinated.

1:01:57SPEAKERThis is maybe, this might be an episode topic.

1:01:58SPEAKERIf maybe we get our hands on FreeDOS

1:02:00SPEAKERand pull up a couple other things.

1:02:02SPEAKER- I found a guy on GitHub

1:02:05SPEAKERwho was writing modern drivers for Windows 3.1.

1:02:08SPEAKER- Why, why wouldn't you?

1:02:09SPEAKERYeah, clearly.

1:02:10SPEAKER- He wrote a modern video driver

1:02:12SPEAKERthat will work on modern graphics cards

1:02:14SPEAKERand let you run Windows 3.1 on a modern machine.

1:02:16SPEAKERAnd there were screenshots on that GitHub repo

1:02:19SPEAKERof the Windows 3.1 program manager at 1080p and up.

1:02:24SPEAKER- Wow.

1:02:25SPEAKER- And it is mind blowing to look at.

1:02:27SPEAKER- I bet that's really, really small.

1:02:29SPEAKER- That's like usable, but pretty small, sure, yes.

1:02:32SPEAKER- We need to get different glasses.

1:02:34SPEAKER- There's all kinds of weird stuff going on

1:02:35SPEAKERand people trying to get old OS's

1:02:37SPEAKERworking on new computers stuff right now.

1:02:40SPEAKER- I love it.

1:02:40SPEAKER- Yeah, it's neat.

1:02:42SPEAKERThe other question in that vein is from Fernando.

1:02:44SPEAKERHow do the new I am a human button prompts work?

1:02:47SPEAKERI get the ones that make me pick motorcycles

1:02:49SPEAKERand hieroglyphics, but what's the deal with the ones

1:02:51SPEAKERthat just make me check a box, think for a bit

1:02:53SPEAKERand then deem me a soul vessel or a human?

1:02:58SPEAKER- If they can tell them, if they can tell

1:03:00SPEAKERthat I'm me just by me clicking a box,

1:03:02SPEAKERwhy not just make the check automatic?

1:03:04SPEAKER- Typically they look at the cookies,

1:03:06SPEAKERthey look at the cookies that they have access to

1:03:08SPEAKERand they can profile you as a human based on that.

1:03:13SPEAKER- Not sure, does that, where does the checkbox factor in?

1:03:16SPEAKERI'm still not sure what purpose that serves.

1:03:18SPEAKER- I think you have to, I think the machines

1:03:20SPEAKERhave a hard time checking the box.

1:03:22SPEAKERI don't know.

1:03:24SPEAKERThe point is if you're running not a,

1:03:27SPEAKERlike a lot of the things that are not humans

1:03:29SPEAKERare not running like a graphical interface

1:03:31SPEAKERso the checkbox won't even show.

1:03:32SPEAKER- Oh, you're saying the checkbox is just one last line

1:03:35SPEAKERfor like fully automated scraping or whatever?

1:03:38SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

1:03:40SPEAKER- I see what you mean.

1:03:41SPEAKER- Yeah, so.

1:03:42SPEAKER- I'm surprised that there is not some automated way

1:03:44SPEAKERfor scrapers to check boxes, like visually identify them

1:03:47SPEAKERat this point and you can like use computer vision

1:03:49SPEAKERor something.

1:03:50SPEAKER- Well, it's like the, if you wanna rule out bot answers

1:03:54SPEAKERto a survey for a contest survey,

1:03:56SPEAKERyou make the first question a yes answer, default to,

1:04:01SPEAKERyou put two questions in and one is a yes and one is a no

1:04:04SPEAKERand the things that always answer the same thing

1:04:06SPEAKERto everything will be ruled out by those two questions

1:04:09SPEAKER'cause you say, hey, are you a bot?

1:04:10SPEAKERNo, and it's like, are you sure you're not a bot?

1:04:12SPEAKERYes, and then you rule out like 90% of the bots

1:04:15SPEAKER'cause most of them are really lazy.

1:04:16SPEAKER- Yeah, fair.

1:04:18SPEAKERAll right, I'm gonna say we wrap this one up

1:04:20SPEAKERwith a cake batter lightning round, what do you say?

1:04:22SPEAKER- I love it, I love, it's my favorite time of the month

1:04:24SPEAKERis this cake batter lightning round.

1:04:26SPEAKER- Yes, all right, some quick hits here.

1:04:28SPEAKERIf I were to introduce myself as quote,

1:04:31SPEAKERbeing born in the late second millennium,

1:04:34SPEAKERdo you think that's a good opener

1:04:35SPEAKERfor a PowerPoint presentation?

1:04:36SPEAKER- Okay, so the first millennium is from zero to a thousand

1:04:40SPEAKERand the second millennium is from a thousand and one

1:04:42SPEAKERto 19 to 2000, that's a weird way to put it, man.

1:04:46SPEAKER- I think that's a pretty cool way to describe yourself.

1:04:49SPEAKERThe problem is that just about everybody with,

1:04:51SPEAKERI mean, obviously there are an increasing number

1:04:53SPEAKERof exceptions as we get deeper into the 21st century,

1:04:56SPEAKERbut a large number of people can make the same claim

1:04:59SPEAKERto fame, so not super unique at the moment,

1:05:02SPEAKERbut it still sounds very cool.

1:05:04SPEAKER- I think about those people that were born in like 1998

1:05:06SPEAKERor 1999 that might get to see the next century

1:05:09SPEAKERafter this one, probably not though,

1:05:13SPEAKERprobably not, let's be real.

1:05:14SPEAKER- Let's maybe not dig into what we expect

1:05:17SPEAKERlife expectancy trends to look like in this century.

1:05:20SPEAKER- Yeah, well, okay, yeah, I guess I've started referring

1:05:25SPEAKERto things as the turn of the century now

1:05:27SPEAKERfrom like the 1990s to the early 2000s.

1:05:29SPEAKER- Sure, I think that's totally valid.

1:05:31SPEAKER- Well, but like for the first 20 years of my life,

1:05:33SPEAKERthat was the last turn of the century, right?

1:05:36SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:05:37SPEAKER- If you're gonna do the millennium thing,

1:05:40SPEAKERyou gotta grandiose it a little bit,

1:05:41SPEAKERyou gotta make it in the waning days

1:05:43SPEAKERof the second millennium or something like that.

1:05:45SPEAKER- Yep, next question.

1:05:47SPEAKERHow often do you clean your headphones or earbuds?

1:05:50SPEAKERI find if I don't regularly wipe them down

1:05:52SPEAKERwith some isopropyl alcohol, my ear bits get irritated.

1:05:55SPEAKER- I can't use the soft, the rubbery tips on my AirPods

1:06:00SPEAKER'cause they irritate my canals.

1:06:02SPEAKER- Oh, that's a bummer.

1:06:03SPEAKER- Yeah, I think there's something in there

1:06:05SPEAKERthat my skin doesn't like.

1:06:06SPEAKERSo I buy Comply foam tips, I have for years

1:06:10SPEAKER'cause it's always been a problem within years for me

1:06:12SPEAKERand they only last about five months

1:06:15SPEAKERprobably on the outside.

1:06:17SPEAKER- Jeez.

1:06:17SPEAKER- Well, you get, it's a three pack for like 10 bucks.

1:06:19SPEAKER- Eh, that's all right.

1:06:20SPEAKER- So, you know, they go to the ocean, I'm sure,

1:06:22SPEAKERwhich feels bad.

1:06:23SPEAKERI actually, realistically, they age in my office

1:06:25SPEAKERfor a long time and then I throw them all out at once.

1:06:29SPEAKERBut they're very comfortable

1:06:30SPEAKERand they isolate the noise a little bit better.

1:06:32SPEAKER- Sure.

1:06:33SPEAKER- But usually like every two,

1:06:37SPEAKERlook, they come in colors is what I'm saying.

1:06:40SPEAKERThey're not white, so they come in colors

1:06:42SPEAKERand if I take them out and I go ew,

1:06:45SPEAKERthat's when I clean them.

1:06:46SPEAKER- Fair, I think that's probably the standard.

1:06:48SPEAKERI have a decent little like $30 pair of sound cores

1:06:52SPEAKERthat I use for exercise.

1:06:53SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:06:55SPEAKER- That I probably went like a year, year and a half on

1:06:58SPEAKERbefore I thought to clean them.

1:06:59SPEAKER- Gross, dude, gross.

1:07:00SPEAKER- Maybe about a year.

1:07:02SPEAKERAt some point I looked at them and was like,

1:07:04SPEAKERyeah, basically what you said.

1:07:06SPEAKER- I'm gonna say you wanna get like one of those,

1:07:09SPEAKERA, it's nice to have a plunger to go down in the stick hole

1:07:11SPEAKERif you're an AirPod person.

1:07:13SPEAKERSo you'd like where the sticks go in the case,

1:07:15SPEAKERyou can jam down there and clean all the gunk out of there.

1:07:17SPEAKER- Yes, I've noticed that the case actually is perhaps

1:07:20SPEAKERmore problematic than the earbud.

1:07:22SPEAKER- Yeah, you need to pick a pick thing to get the goop

1:07:24SPEAKERout of the hole where the sound comes out.

1:07:27SPEAKERAnd then there's like, I have this other little,

1:07:28SPEAKERnice little side brush for getting in like the wire

1:07:31SPEAKERmeshy places.

1:07:33SPEAKERAnd we talked about my AirPod slash keyboard cleaning thing

1:07:37SPEAKERa few years ago, but it's pretty good.

1:07:39SPEAKER- Clean your headphones.

1:07:40SPEAKER- I'm gonna go and tell you, or maybe don't,

1:07:42SPEAKERbecause my AirPod started getting janky,

1:07:44SPEAKERwhich I think was probably iOS 18's

1:07:46SPEAKERBluetooth stack being bad.

1:07:48SPEAKERAnd when I was down at GDC one day,

1:07:50SPEAKERI had a couple hours in between meetings,

1:07:51SPEAKERI was like, I'm gonna go up to the Apple Store

1:07:52SPEAKERand see what I can do about this.

1:07:54SPEAKERSo I went up to the Apple Store,

1:07:55SPEAKERwhich is like two blocks away, and I was like,

1:07:58SPEAKERhey, I have two different problems.

1:08:00SPEAKERMy right ear charges sporadically,

1:08:03SPEAKEReven though there's no gunk in the case,

1:08:06SPEAKERand the left ear drops all the time when I'm on the subway.

1:08:08SPEAKERAnd he's like, oh, let me see.

1:08:09SPEAKERAnd he took him back and tested him for like 10 minutes.

1:08:10SPEAKERHe's like, well, I couldn't get it to replicate,

1:08:13SPEAKERbut I did see some weird stuff in the logs on them.

1:08:16SPEAKERAnd also you're 20 days away from your warranty expiring.

1:08:20SPEAKERSo here's three new, here's two new AirPods in a new case.

1:08:23SPEAKER- What? - Yeah.

1:08:25SPEAKER- Oh my God. - Yeah.

1:08:27SPEAKERSo two years, I'm at two years or three years,

1:08:30SPEAKERI guess, on those, I can't remember.

1:08:31SPEAKER- Well, now that was, to be clear,

1:08:33SPEAKERthat was the paid AppleCare+ warranty?

1:08:35SPEAKER- So yeah, I paid the 50 bucks for the AppleCare+,

1:08:37SPEAKERor whatever it was when I bought them,

1:08:39SPEAKERbecause I tend to drop them and step on them.

1:08:41SPEAKER- Sure.

1:08:42SPEAKER- But I'd never used anything before.

1:08:44SPEAKERAnd he was like, you haven't used the warranty at all.

1:08:46SPEAKERAnd like, it's about to expire, so let's go.

1:08:49SPEAKER- 50 bucks to get a brand spanking fresh new pair

1:08:52SPEAKERright at the end of the warranty period is pretty good.

1:08:55SPEAKER- Especially since they haven't updated them.

1:08:57SPEAKER- Yeah, man, score.

1:08:59SPEAKER- Yeah, I was like, shout out to Tony

1:09:02SPEAKERat the Union Square Apple Store.

1:09:05SPEAKER- Yeah. - He's a band.

1:09:06SPEAKERHe's a DJ too.

1:09:07SPEAKERIf you need a DJ in the sunset, he's got you.

1:09:09SPEAKER- I've made some small talk, huh?

1:09:11SPEAKER- We had conversations.

1:09:13SPEAKER- Yes, all right, last cake batter.

1:09:15SPEAKERGreen onions as a garnish.

1:09:17SPEAKERDoes anyone like green onions?

1:09:18SPEAKERDude, what the fuck?

1:09:19SPEAKER- Dude, green onions are the best onions.

1:09:21SPEAKER- Green onions are definitely up there.

1:09:23SPEAKER- I literally, yeah, I literally was like,

1:09:25SPEAKERhey, Gina, we need to play this.

1:09:27SPEAKERI saw this email and I was like, Gina,

1:09:28SPEAKERwe gotta put green onions in the garden,

1:09:30SPEAKER'cause I forgot when we were playing

1:09:31SPEAKERin the garden the other day.

1:09:32SPEAKERSo yeah, green onions, everything.

1:09:36SPEAKER- You know what's cool?

1:09:37SPEAKERIf you buy some like living green onions at the store

1:09:39SPEAKERand chop off the tops, you can just kind of set them out

1:09:41SPEAKERand let them keep growing for awhile.

1:09:42SPEAKER- Harvest them.

1:09:43SPEAKER- Get some more.

1:09:44SPEAKER- Keep getting more onions.

1:09:46SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:09:46SPEAKER- Do you eat the whites too?

1:09:48SPEAKER- Whites.

1:09:49SPEAKER- The white part of the green onion?

1:09:51SPEAKER- Like kind of partially like-

1:09:54SPEAKER- Fried rice or something maybe?

1:09:55SPEAKER- Yeah, like a little ways into the bowl,

1:09:57SPEAKERbut like maybe not the whole thing probably, but.

1:09:59SPEAKER- Oh, see, when I was a kid,

1:10:01SPEAKERwe used to grow those in the backyard

1:10:02SPEAKERand I would just pick them out of the garden

1:10:03SPEAKERand just chomp them and eat the whole thing.

1:10:05SPEAKER- Yikes.

1:10:06SPEAKER- Like Bugs Bunny.

1:10:08SPEAKER- I mean, I don't think there's an onion I don't like,

1:10:10SPEAKERbut that might be a little far even for me.

1:10:12SPEAKER- Well, they're pretty sweet when they're little.

1:10:14SPEAKER- Okay, fair.

1:10:14SPEAKER- Like it's not like a Vidalia sweet,

1:10:17SPEAKERbut they're not like, it's not like gonna hurt you.

1:10:20SPEAKER- I'm very pro onion.

1:10:23SPEAKER- Yeah, love an onion.

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