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23: Some Real Karen Energy

2020-02-23 · 51:47

00:00SPEAKERi had a 35 kill two solo win three and a half hour pubg game yesterday that's too much that's

00:07SPEAKERabout two and a half hours too much three three hours 35 people brad that was a single match no

00:12SPEAKERno no that was like oh that was like six or seven yeah i won two games a sitting yeah that was a

00:17SPEAKERsession a session was that last night yesterday afternoon okay and yet here you are at 7 45 in

00:23SPEAKERthe morning here i am ready to murder true ready to murder some podcast the truest uh the truest

00:28SPEAKERsweatpants tech pod that we've done to date i didn't take a shower this morning i didn't either

00:33SPEAKERi'm sitting here with half a cup of coffee my parents were here this last week in town and

00:37SPEAKERthey were they experienced what it's like to be me they had the will smith experience what is that

00:40SPEAKERlike uh no it's not great it's you get up in the morning you shovel a kid out the door child

00:47SPEAKERinvolved yeah you small business maybe brush your teeth by 11 o'clock like the mistake i've made is

00:53SPEAKERthat my work at home ritual is bad okay like instead of you're supposed to get up and like

00:58SPEAKERput your clothes on take a shower put your clothes on have coffee that's the norm chan routine no that

01:02SPEAKERnorm is that's norm claimed to do that i don't know how the norm does that and that all went

01:06SPEAKERout the window when i had when we had a kid yeah so now it's that i roll out of bed and i just

01:12SPEAKERlook at my phone i'm like uh i gotta answer these emails so i answer the emails and then i get on

01:18SPEAKERslack and i answer the slacks and by the time all that is done it's usually like 11 30 and i maybe

01:24SPEAKERhad a cup of tea or a cup of coffee and i'm i'm gross like i got i got the night sweats on me still

01:31SPEAKERand i gotta like then i'm like oh i gotta make lunch before i do this shower so then i ate lunch

01:38SPEAKERand then at like 215 when my daughter is like 20 minutes from coming home i'm like shit i gotta go

01:42SPEAKERtake a shower so she doesn't think i'm a hobo and then i go take a shower and then i you know i feel

01:47SPEAKERdecent sounds chaotic at three o'clock in the afternoon okay now i understand why do you feel

01:51SPEAKERthe urge to hop online and shoot people that's why i love shooting people so much it's so good

02:21SPEAKERwelcome to another episode of brad and will made a tech bot i'm will hello will

02:31SPEAKERhello brad hi that's me hi how are you i'm doing pretty good it's really early today it is this is

02:36SPEAKERmy normal podcasting hour last time is it really yeah seven o'clock is when we usually do still

02:40SPEAKERentitled last time we did a night podcast yeah that was too late now we're doing a super early

02:44SPEAKERmorning yeah this is we're all over the place this week it's time for q a it is we've done

02:49SPEAKERthree episodes these things come out of nowhere two of them were about the same thing but i feel

02:52SPEAKERlike it still fits we got a lot of questions about windows i feel like that was a lot of

02:56SPEAKERtalk about windows those were long episodes i uh i felt bad breaking it up into two episodes

03:01SPEAKERbut sometimes it was too long quantity over quality man yeah that's the no that was the

03:07SPEAKERother way people just want hours of stuff to put on and half listen to yeah i want something i can

03:12SPEAKERlisten to while i'm playing some diablo clone yeah um yeah these uh these i feel like every time one

03:17SPEAKERof these email episodes comes up it's like didn't we just do one of these but you know it's like one

03:20SPEAKERa month but we hey for other podcasters out there we had a real innovation last time yeah i sent an

03:25SPEAKERemail to ourselves what when we recorded the last email episode so we'd have a marker in the email

03:32SPEAKERfeed of where to stop reading emails that does that count as a life hack what is that i think

03:37SPEAKERthat's a pro tip because that is an exploit uh wait is game pro still around they aren't right

03:42SPEAKERno yeah then yeah it's a pro tip for sure okay wait do we get to make a little uh five-point

03:48SPEAKERillustrations of ourselves sure to slap on the reveal they made they made action figures man

03:53SPEAKERwhat yeah well a lot of those guys ended up being ended up at future and they're their friends oh

03:58SPEAKERwow and they had like like dan amrick had a dan electro action figure huh that they made i think

04:03SPEAKERas like an advertiser chach or something i don't know what it was for but like so is that a sign of

04:07SPEAKERlike some delusion of grandeur to make action figures of yourself no i think that's a sign

04:11SPEAKERof a marketing department with money that they had to burn okay that's how most things get done

04:16SPEAKERi think yeah um hey we have budget we got to do something i don't know what we get for a few

04:20SPEAKERthousand dollars we make some action yeah okay sure action figures is great what about funko pops

04:25SPEAKERuh do you want to read some emails sure all right how about well first of all what's what was the

04:30SPEAKERemail address again oh it's tech pod and content that town you're very good at this you know

04:34SPEAKERit's very that was a very smooth segue i knew it was something like that tech pod at content it's

04:40SPEAKERjust like the url but with an ad instead of a dot in one of the places yeah we're efficient like that

04:45SPEAKERyeah all right here we go the first email comes from royce hello royce i like that name it's a

04:50SPEAKERgood name sounds fancy yeah it sounds like it sounds like you should be bottled sounds like

04:56SPEAKERland owning european old money or something to me yeah like i'm out of the man i'm out of the

05:00SPEAKERsummer estate this this week but i wanted to ask you questions the country house well you know when

05:04SPEAKERwe named our daughter there was a question about whether we were choosing names that were appropriate

05:08SPEAKERfor our social status like you don't want to like i feel like if you name a kid porsche you're saying

05:14SPEAKERyou're making you're making billionaire claims sending a certain message yeah that's not that's

05:18SPEAKERnot what anyway fake it with your child's name until you make it i feel like that's like there's

05:22SPEAKERa white trash you know billionaire scale there you gotta be careful with yeah okay all right

05:28SPEAKERemail from royce uh just listen to your great episode on nas i meant to admit the word great

05:33SPEAKERthere well i read this before in my mind i was like okay when you read that don't say great say

05:39SPEAKERwell now you've really called attention to it so i'm gonna i'm gonna start totally smooth

05:42SPEAKERlet's start over just listen to your episode on nasus uh it came at a good time because i'm

05:47SPEAKERcurrently ripping all of my dvds to a plex server for easier and remote access i'm not the most tech

05:53SPEAKERsavvy person but luckily plex has a pretty easy ui and i'm currently working with an off-the-shelf

05:57SPEAKERtower cpu however i'm hoping to have something that uses substantially less power and that i

06:02SPEAKERwon't have to worry about leaving up 24 7 upon some research it seems somewhat common for people

06:07SPEAKERto set up a raspberry pi as a dedicated plex server with an external hard drive do you have

06:12SPEAKERany opinions on this and then he links to um a thing on amazon he says i'm currently thinking

06:18SPEAKERthis hundred dollar uh raspberry pi 4 kit on amazon with an eight terabyte spinning disk usb

06:23SPEAKERdrive might be adequate so he wants to know if basically that setup is and this this raspberry

06:28SPEAKERpi kit he linked to is basically just it's like the pi uh an enclosure power supply sd card it's

06:34SPEAKERjust sort of the all-in-one get started kit so i haven't used the brand new the newest raspberry

06:40SPEAKERpi which is supposed to be pretty beefy yes i don't know if it's transcode video beefy yeah

06:45SPEAKERthat's where i maybe get hung up on this yeah so it might be okay i would say probably anything

06:50SPEAKERprior to a raspberry pi 4 is going to be pushing your luck in terms of what you can transcode

06:55SPEAKERi i would think that's probably fine uh if you're actually also i should point out um the

07:00SPEAKERif i'm not mistaken the pi 4 is the first one with usb 4 that's true i mean i'm sorry USB 3 ports

07:05SPEAKERyeah um but i mean that shouldn't matter for video because the videos are pretty low

07:09SPEAKERbit right that rate is not that high um so so yeah the gate for that is going to be

07:14SPEAKERhow much CPU you have i mean like whether whether you've ripped the files that you're putting on

07:20SPEAKERthe plex server in a way that they'll play natively on whatever devices you're using so

07:25SPEAKERif you're using android devices you're kind of fine with whatever because they can play a ton

07:28SPEAKERof stuff they can handle soft subtitles all that uh for ios and roku and whatever other set-top

07:34SPEAKERbox apple tv whatever set-top boxes you're using including like the ones that are built

07:38SPEAKERinto your 4k tv you're going to want to go to plexus um uh codex page and find out what

07:46SPEAKERlike which clients support soft subtitles because you like ideally if you're going through the

07:50SPEAKERhassle of ripping all your discs you don't want to do things like burn subtitles in you want to

07:53SPEAKERbe able to use the soft subtitle so you can turn them on and off um but if you're using a low power

07:58SPEAKERserver you know if you if you want to watch a video with a movie with subtitles on and they're

08:06SPEAKERsoft subtitles and your viewing client doesn't support soft subtitles which a lot of the ios

08:12SPEAKERstuff doesn't and some of the like consoles even don't yeah you you need to have enough horsepower

08:19SPEAKERto re-encode that video on the fly with those subtitles burned in so um your mileage may vary

08:26SPEAKERi would think a pi 4 would probably be fine it's probably fine for dvd res especially um

08:30SPEAKERit's a quad core i think it's 1.5 gigahertz but it's still arm right it is arm but it's like one

08:35SPEAKERof the newer yeah and it's probably and and also plex has hardware transcode support built in now

08:42SPEAKERfor specific chipsets i don't know if it supports the arm stuff i know that intel

08:47SPEAKERum the intel integrated uh video transcode hardware is now supported if you're on the

08:54SPEAKERright platform so if you're on like debbie and linux and using the right kernel and you flip

08:59SPEAKERsome flags then you can you can get hardware transcode which will solve that problem entirely

09:03SPEAKERyeah so you may i guess my point is you may be better off looking at like a low power intel

09:07SPEAKERsystem like a nuke or one of those atom sticks or something like that you say it nuke nuke in

09:13SPEAKERmy head it's always nuke oh man it's like it's like the robocop drugs you gotta get that nuke

09:18SPEAKERbro okay now i'm now i'm on board yeah i get it um yeah the uh the video transcode issue aside like

09:24SPEAKERa pi 4 and a usb hard drive is perfectly fine it's just a real quick and dirty ness kind of

09:29SPEAKERstuff i have a good backup strategy yes that's i mean yes you should not make that your sole

09:34SPEAKERrepository of that data if you care about that data but yeah i mean just for serving files on

09:38SPEAKERa network that is totally fine i mean and honestly you can get real fancy if you want to do that and

09:43SPEAKERlike set up a second one at a friend's house and sink those sink those pools with each other

09:49SPEAKERit's a little diy cloud storage yeah i i really want to buy a pi 4 and i should have already i

09:54SPEAKERjust it's so stupid but i'm hung up on that dumb usb-c power bug they ran into with that thing so

10:00SPEAKERi'm waiting till they get a revision out there that fixes that i used my pi 4 money to buy a

10:04SPEAKERub key the other day that's probably a smarter use of that money uh but uh let's see um how about

10:16SPEAKERspeaking of infosec we did that infosec episode yeah i mentioned the ub key i was really pleased

10:22SPEAKERthat nobody yelled at us i i nothing makes me more nervous than doing stories about infosec and

10:28SPEAKERbeing terrified that i will mess it up strong opinions in that crowd yeah and and and a uh

10:33SPEAKERthe high high consequence for failure or uh you know well and also wrong can be quite damaging

10:40SPEAKERand the best practices aren't always intuitive yeah that's the other thing about that space so

10:44SPEAKERanyway for example you might think your netflix account is well protected and yet they might it

10:50SPEAKERturns out it isn't they might keep charging you over and over i i'm uh customer service is

10:55SPEAKERresolved they escalated to their security team complaining on twitter always works this is i

10:59SPEAKERalways feel skeezy i hate that that's so effective i've never had to do it but like i guess if you

11:03SPEAKERhave no other choice you well so i do you want to tell do you get the short people were alluding to

11:08SPEAKERyeah the tldr is that somebody kept just like um canceling my netflix account basically without

11:16SPEAKERme doing it uh when i called netflix to find out what was happening they didn't they acted like i

11:22SPEAKERwas the person was logged in when they were doing it which is would was very worrisome to me because

11:27SPEAKERi use single password you know unique passwords for each service it was a really long password

11:32SPEAKERit had symbols and numbers and digits it wasn't shared with anybody like i hadn't broken any of

11:36SPEAKERthe rules so either when you when you break yeah well yeah go ahead there's a problem on their end

11:39SPEAKERor one of my machines was compromised when you break down the ways that people could get access

11:44SPEAKERto that account on your end they're all pretty terrifying it was real thin somebody has either

11:48SPEAKERlike breached your password vault or they've got a key logger installed on your machine or something

11:54SPEAKERsome in some way they're getting access to stuff in a really frightening way well it could have

11:59SPEAKERalso been like 10 years ago they don't sign people out when you change passwords by default okay so

12:04SPEAKERalso 10 years ago i had a bad password on that before i started using one password wow so like

12:09SPEAKERif somebody's been sitting there logged in for a decade but they didn't show up in the recent

12:14SPEAKERactivity list interesting so my netflix account also got compromised four or five years ago really

12:21SPEAKERi also used a terrible password i think it was somebody in germany that signed into it i'm

12:24SPEAKERhijacked it yeah of course they signed in they changed the password and then they like upgraded

12:28SPEAKERthe plan to whatever the most well that's nice of them at that that time it was super easy so yeah

12:33SPEAKERi can't remember if i live chatted or called somebody but they fixed it in like five minutes

12:36SPEAKERwell so i did the live chat and the customer service representative was so profoundly unhealthy

12:40SPEAKERhelpful that that i flew into a rage and i complained on twitter like an asshole exercise

12:45SPEAKERthe nuclear option and and debased yourself look i'm not proud to say this at one point i was like

12:51SPEAKERlook is my is my only i was like can you escalate me to a manager manager and they're like no i'll

12:56SPEAKERjust i was like or or what i said was can you escalate me to a manager or are you just going

13:02SPEAKERto send me to somebody else on your tier and they're going to act like they're your manager

13:06SPEAKERand they were like i i can't tell you that wow and i was like well shit so my only option is to

13:10SPEAKERgo complain to a hundred thousand people on twitter and he was like no i can't comment on that i was

13:15SPEAKERlike okay here we go let's dance oh wait you actually told him that yeah i told the customer

13:19SPEAKERservice i was like i was like look this is going to be a problem for you exercise some real care

13:24SPEAKERand energy look i was i was here's the thing i know they train customer service people not to

13:30SPEAKERsay not to apologize for a mistake on the part of the service i know that's part of the drill yeah

13:36SPEAKERbut sometimes the service is at fault if you had said i'm sorry i'm happy you're i'm sorry you're

13:41SPEAKERhaving this problem i would have been like 90 percent less pissed sure yeah anyway so info sec

13:47SPEAKERyeah it's it's remarkable how many people don't understand this that getting people to do what you

13:52SPEAKERwant so like everything to do with how you treat them yeah instead of flying into a rage of people

13:57SPEAKERyeah uh oh yeah are you saying i shouldn't have flown into a race or they should have flown into

14:00SPEAKERa range saying some politeness goes a long way yeah there you go stuff anyway uh all right we

14:05SPEAKERgot a couple of info sec emails here to go through oh there's one from edwin i'm surprised you guys

14:11SPEAKERdidn't touch on unsecured public wi-fi and vpn during the recent info sec episode oh that's a

14:16SPEAKERreally good point yeah um i mean vpns are useful especially if you're doing things that you don't

14:21SPEAKERwant necessarily tied to your ip address that you're on um i most of the web these days because

14:28SPEAKERit's all ssl encrypted i'm much less worried about the security problems of unencrypted wi-fi

14:35SPEAKERat this point to the point that i don't use vpns when i'm really airport wi-fi anymore kidding

14:40SPEAKERwell also often you have to put in a password now for airport wi-fi i mean like well that's

14:45SPEAKERnot going to stop a malicious like an attacker from getting on there as well no but ssl is pretty

14:50SPEAKERreliable pretty robust yeah um i mean it's not it's not universal it isn't universal but like

14:55SPEAKERall of the imagine what was the last time you logged into a website that wasn't ssl encrypted

15:00SPEAKERat this point uh about a month ago yeah i mean actually they do exist this is this is an outlier

15:06SPEAKERat this point i shouldn't this sounds like i'm scaremongering here because it was such an outlier

15:09SPEAKERwhen it happened that i was like it's 2020 what the fuck are you people it's i don't want to put

15:14SPEAKERany small businesses on blast that i patronize but i mean it's the place i get my haircut it

15:19SPEAKERtakes like five minutes they get an ssl certificate now let me do it automatically

15:23SPEAKERi'm just going to complain about this real quick they have they now have like an online kind of

15:26SPEAKERappointment portal that's really nice and i was like okay cool i can make my haircut appointments

15:31SPEAKERonline now i go there um they not only require you to input a credit card address before you can even

15:37SPEAKERmake the appointment but then i looked at the address bar and sure enough there was not there

15:41SPEAKERwas no https like chrome through the hey this is an unprotected website maybe you don't do your

15:47SPEAKERcredit card here no i didn't i absolutely did not i just went back to calling them on the phone

15:50SPEAKERbecause like you're expecting me to put my credit card number into an unsecured website there's

15:54SPEAKERservices for that why do you have why do you not have a certificate like my place just pays somebody

15:59SPEAKERelse like open table for hair just whoever set it up yes didn't know what they're doing it's it's

16:04SPEAKERunfortunate but anyway like you're you're right most most like even content sites yeah like the

16:08SPEAKERnew york times giant bomb is ssl encrypted i think at this point right seems like it is probably

16:15SPEAKERyeah i didn't get an error when i typed a password the other day sure yeah so it's i feel like it's i

16:20SPEAKERfeel like the vpn like those are special use things for special to be clear for anybody who doesn't

16:25SPEAKERknow when you're logging to a vpn it's going to be encrypting 100 of the traffic you send through

16:29SPEAKERthat pipe so you're protected on anything you do if you're on like an airport or like a public like

16:34SPEAKERa starbucks wi-fi or something but but i mean the problem with like the problem with stuff like like

16:38SPEAKERa lot of the free vpns they're free vpns they're paid vpns and then there's stuff like tor the

16:44SPEAKERonion router yeah um which is a different kind of vpn and kind of anonymizes your traffic a little

16:49SPEAKERbit i feel afraid even talking about or going near that subject why it's just so skeezy man i mean

16:55SPEAKERit's the dark web well yeah i mean the the problem with tor is that i think i at least the last time

17:00SPEAKERi used it in order to use into order to connect somebody else's node you had to open up your end

17:04SPEAKERas a node and the kind of things people use tor for are things i don't want to be associated with

17:09SPEAKERin any way shape or form yes um which is unfortunate because tor is an incredibly valuable

17:15SPEAKERservice i'm talking about like child pornography and drugs and stuff like that and and uh

17:21SPEAKERassassinations yeah like bomb making and yes all of the shit that used to be on usenet and irc back

17:26SPEAKERin the old days um so so yeah like i i pay for a vpn i still pay for a vpn it's it's fine yeah like

17:37SPEAKERi don't i don't i don't think it's as necessary part of your your security toolkit as it was

17:42SPEAKERsay 10 years ago when not everything was total encrypted on the web um i don't know if i've

17:46SPEAKERmentioned before i actually set up a the vpn on my edge router oh so you can so i can vpn to my house

17:52SPEAKERthat's nice which does not accomplish the things that most people want to use a vpn for which is

17:55SPEAKERanonymizing your traffic well but it means you can like manage your server and your server and stuff

18:00SPEAKERlike that my house and yeah i can access everything on my land but also another nice side benefit of

18:04SPEAKERthat is that i can do what edwin is talking about when i'm at the airport or whatever and like and

18:09SPEAKERlike you said it's it's kind of maybe security overkill at this point but like you know if i

18:13SPEAKERhop on the airport wi-fi on my phone i just immediately connect to my home vpn yeah and

18:18SPEAKERand again i'm not like anonymizing or any of the primary kind of most people's use cases for vpn but

18:23SPEAKERit does give me that it gives me that peace of mind of like okay anybody else on this airport

18:27SPEAKERwi-fi can't try to touch anything i'm doing with my financial information here i did find out that

18:33SPEAKERyou can use the vpn to bypass things that are blocked from networks too so like i was on a gogo

18:40SPEAKERwireless satellite internet connection a few weeks ago and they didn't let me connect to discord

18:45SPEAKERbecause they viewed it as like a an av like a video conferencing app not a chat app right

18:50SPEAKERso i just vpned in and and connected the vpn and i was able to discord all i wanted okay so to be

18:56SPEAKERclear like in my example when i'm vpning to my house like the discord is or whoever is seeing my

19:01SPEAKERip as my home ip right yeah oh yeah yeah that's exactly that is i didn't even think about that

19:05SPEAKERthat's a nice way to circumvent it's a life hack some some annoying stuff like that all right what

19:11SPEAKERdo we got let's start some more cues into a's here's another one from scott hello scott uh a

19:17SPEAKERcouple weeks ago you mentioned using facial recognition on your phone as a method of security

19:22SPEAKERi personally know of two people who have been at a bar or party where they have passed out and had

19:26SPEAKERsomeone use the facial recognition on their phone to open the phone and use venmo to empty out a

19:31SPEAKERbank account how the hell did somebody use the phone when you're unconscious the reason why i'll

19:36SPEAKERnever use facial recognition on my phone okay there's a lot of there's a lot to unpack here

19:41SPEAKERyeah a passing out in public probably the bigger security problem yeah be careful yeah don't don't

19:48SPEAKERdo that no if you want to get blackout drunk do it in the privacy of your own home maybe also

19:54SPEAKERwell i i'm old and have a different perspective on this now than i probably did when i was still

19:58SPEAKERdrinking that much sure um and is the facial recognition lenient enough to work like with

20:04SPEAKERpeople's eyes closed i assumed eyes like the the some something about the dimensions if you're like

20:09SPEAKERyour iris and pupil probably factor into the biometrics you have to make eye contact with

20:14SPEAKERthe iphone so they would literally have to like pull your eyelids open yeah like my daughter tries

20:17SPEAKERto unlock the phone so she can play games and she does the thing where she just jams it up in your

20:20SPEAKERface and as long as you don't look at it it never unlocks it's another life hack yeah um but it's

20:26SPEAKERalso kind of hard not to look at it because it's the most interesting thing in my line of sight at

20:29SPEAKERany given moment sure you just you see it there and you're like i love that thing yeah um but i

20:34SPEAKERalso hate it it's a problem uh i i if i was doing serious stuff for a living or places where i was

20:44SPEAKERconcerned about my physical security i would not use face or fingerprint yeah scanning yeah because

20:49SPEAKERi think we talked about before like people have lifted fingerprints off of surfaces and use them

20:54SPEAKERto unlock phones that's not foolproof either we did that it tested just uh um i think i feel like

20:59SPEAKERscotch tape and uh and graphite was enough to do it wow yeah um we might have had to make a mold

21:05SPEAKERi can't remember i don't know how valid this is uh but i saw like a kind of semi-viral tweet going

21:10SPEAKERaround yesterday that somebody had devised a way to photograph your face print the lower half of

21:18SPEAKERyour face onto an n95 breathing mask i know daniel let's let's get okay does that yeah i know her

21:24SPEAKERshe's great and then specifically the pitch was hey in the middle of a viral outbreak like the

21:28SPEAKERcoronavirus you can customize your breathing masks to continue unlocking your phone because

21:33SPEAKERi don't know if that actually works though or not i don't know if it works or not i don't know if

21:36SPEAKERi don't know if there's any 3d depth sensing irr stuff going on that would the mask would defeat

21:41SPEAKERbecause it's just a flat surface well but it's not a flat surface it's domed it would replicate

21:46SPEAKERthe depth of your face or facial features like if you look at my face like i have beard obscure

21:52SPEAKERobscuring my bone structure i i don't know um i we like when the face recognition stuff came out

21:59SPEAKERwith ios and android we heard lots of reports of like uh siblings and children working because

22:06SPEAKERtheir face structure their bone structure was similar enough their face face looks similar

22:09SPEAKERenough to their their relatives interesting um like i feel like any of the biometric stuff like

22:15SPEAKERlook if you're really concerned about security get one of those nfc ub keys and use that to sign into

22:19SPEAKERyour phone use that to sign into your accounts like that that's that's if you have real security needs

22:25SPEAKERthat's what you need is a hardware dongle and a password and throw that thing down the nearest

22:30SPEAKERstorm drain if somebody takes your phone and is trying to get into it bite it nah sure swallow it

22:36SPEAKERyeah no no they can get that back that was actually only the first half of his email oh here's

22:42SPEAKERthe other half but wait there's more uh in the same episode brad mentioned that a credit card

22:46SPEAKERcompany of his doesn't use two-factor authentication this doesn't surprise me as there

22:52SPEAKERare large parts of the banking and credit card systems that are still running on computers and

22:55SPEAKERsoftware built in the 80s the mortgage system is even worse the system used by huge banks like

23:02SPEAKERwalsh fargo and city bank uh was actually written in cobol oh great and is so bad that all the banks

23:10SPEAKERservicing centers talk to each other to find ways around all the problems they run into trying to

23:15SPEAKERwork new regulations into an ancient system i always smirk when i use my 2020 laptop to log

23:20SPEAKERinto a system that doesn't recognize a mouse and looks like it would be futuristic in the movie

23:24SPEAKERhackers it sounds like he works in this industry remember remember in 2998 when they had to get all

23:31SPEAKERthe lords of cobol who knew how to cobol program back in to fix the y2k bug yeah they had to like

23:38SPEAKERpull all these people out of retire yeah you know anything about that language like it's just a very

23:42SPEAKERearly primitive machine language it's what ibm used it's not a machine language it's a it's a

23:48SPEAKERi believe it's a higher level than that but i don't know anything about it it was the thing

23:52SPEAKERthat if i wanted to take programming in like seventh grade okay that's it was either that

23:57SPEAKERor fortran is what they would have taught us hey interest someone kind of more simplified than like

24:02SPEAKERc well obviously i think it's more specialized i think it was from ibm mainframes i see so it was

24:07SPEAKERfor data processing like large-scale data processing huh it's kind of what i think people

24:10SPEAKERwould use python for but i'm sure people will send in questions for the next one to correct me

24:14SPEAKERon this because i don't know sure um the uh i don't want to get into specifics of what my

24:21SPEAKERbank uses for two-factor authentication because it's bad yeah um and i don't want to tell everybody

24:25SPEAKERwhat bank i use everybody every bank i've ever used has had a non-standard two-factor

24:32SPEAKERauthentication it's crazy so they don't use otp they don't use ue keys they don't use the google

24:36SPEAKERauthenticator whatever that spec is um if you always like text you a four-digit code or something

24:42SPEAKERterrible like the the very accounts that you most want to protect are the least secure yeah by

24:47SPEAKERnature and it's just it's infuriating well and also your check comes with the like your printed

24:52SPEAKERchecks have the information needed to like extract money from accounts for somebody who is even this

24:58SPEAKERanyway thanks for problem yeah this is why we shall go to bitcoin just uh just get that ethereum

25:04SPEAKERrolling and we're going to use that to buy our groceries from newegg just throw this on the list

25:09SPEAKERof ways the financial industry screws everybody else over yeah um it would be nice if more people

25:15SPEAKERsupported two-factor authentication in a industry standard way yes cannot agree more okay josh from

25:21SPEAKERbrooklyn uh did you guys ever use the he entitled this email sick cd drive oh uh did you guys ever

25:27SPEAKERuse a cd writer that etched the top of the cd with an image that existed right hp laser rights

25:33SPEAKERi heard about them as a kid and always wanted to use one instead of writing with a sharpie on my

25:37SPEAKERnew mix cds hold on it was called is that just an hp thing or i remember right i assume you had to

25:46SPEAKERflip it over in the oh sure yeah i can't remember what it was called i assume they just used some

25:51SPEAKERkind of like different type of like photochemical covering that they could burn with a laser yeah

25:59SPEAKERthat was exactly it was like it was like a single tone okay uh so you're not gonna get colored top

26:05SPEAKERyou didn't get colors but it would just kind of like give a tone color on color yeah uh label on

26:11SPEAKERthe top i had one of those drives did you actually use that feature twice okay because you know what

26:18SPEAKERusually it's like pain usually i would burn the disc and then i would be like well okay this one

26:24SPEAKERis blah blah blah write it on the top of the sharpie yeah and then chuck it back on the

26:27SPEAKERspindle yes because i don't remember it's funny i have no idea what i used optical burners for

26:35SPEAKERonce i stopped burning audio cds yeah because it's not like we were i i you know that's not true i

26:41SPEAKERdid burn a bunch of mp3 cds to like to like share music with friends totally back in the back in

26:45SPEAKERthose heady days that and just like backing up data occasionally kind of if you needed to even

26:49SPEAKERthose are terrible way to back things up i i remember once when i changed pcs and i was moving

26:54SPEAKERthe hard drive from one computer to another i and and downloads were problematic because i was on dsl

27:00SPEAKERi feel like i probably backed up all of the steam installed games to see these and then before like

27:07SPEAKERextra but once external like once you could get a cheap usb external hard drive or thumb drive it

27:11SPEAKERwas like i'm done with this yes this is terrible i think i've got an unopened spindle of like 50

27:17SPEAKEReither see they're probably dvdr's if i had to guess but i'm pretty sure i've got like a stack of

27:22SPEAKERblank disks that will never be used in a box somewhere well so frank sefaldi of the

27:29SPEAKERvideo game history museum uh and jason scott we're both talking of the internet archive

27:37SPEAKERwe're both talking about the reliability of old media like floppy disks and old cdr's and we're

27:43SPEAKERreaching the 20-year period on cdr's so they're going to start presumably the dyes have started

27:48SPEAKERbreaking down because um you have like i guess probably like the sake of cd some of those first

27:54SPEAKERcd rom the companies would be sending out presumably yeah you know beta versions of games

27:58SPEAKERon on uh written i mean you know like all through all through yeah through like the ps2 era at game

28:05SPEAKERspot we were getting burned discs of preview builds and even review builds of stuff all the

28:10SPEAKERtime oh i got burned discs from ea for pc games until i left maximum pc yeah um the that stuff uh

28:17SPEAKERthe floppy disks they're starting to get bad sectors on baby discs from the 80s they break

28:22SPEAKERdown even in storage seems like they do i mean also they're magnetic so i guess that's subject to

28:28SPEAKERcosmic rays and corruption yeah well but also presumably the people who are storing like people

28:35SPEAKERput floppy disks in their attic and their garage and the places that are not necessarily climate

28:39SPEAKERcontrolled so yes you know if they get hot and they're less like they're more likely to lose

28:44SPEAKERlose data and stuff like that uh all right that's a good segue to this email from jason

28:50SPEAKERuh speaking of preserving uh your digital property lightscribe is what it was called

28:55SPEAKERyes right okay now i remember that what a cool ridiculous useless gimmick i mean

29:03SPEAKERthe first time we got that and we were like this is so cool yeah and then we realized you have to

29:06SPEAKERbe able to draw in order to make any use of it at all sure yeah also how much you know it takes five

29:11SPEAKERseconds to write a name with a sharpie versus probably 20 minutes pretty slow make a make an

29:16SPEAKERimage and flip the disc and yeah okay all right uh jason says uh during your nas episode you

29:23SPEAKERmentioned having all of your media music and movies all digital and able to watch anywhere

29:28SPEAKERmy question is what do you recommend for digitizing cds dvds and blu-rays uh and what

29:32SPEAKERdo you store them on i have a four terabyte usb hard drive uh can this be used or do i need an

29:37SPEAKERass for this no you definitely don't need an ass like this you can even if you're just gonna back

29:41SPEAKERthat stuff up you can throw it on any old drive but the bigger question here is he's asking how

29:46SPEAKERto actually like extract and then uh just digitize in different ways um i haven't ripped in an audio

29:55SPEAKERcd in probably 10 years wow really so i just redid all of mine really like a few months ago

30:01SPEAKERwhen i embarked on a quest to rebuild my entire music library and flack yeah how would you use eac

30:07SPEAKERyes so yeah exact audio copy is still from what i could tell the best thing uh out there as far

30:14SPEAKERas i could tell okay it's pretty i mean it's not the easiest thing to set up no but it is very

30:19SPEAKERrobust and it and more most importantly it tells you if you're gonna have an error like a lot of

30:23SPEAKERlike you know ito the problem with itunes always was uh that it that it would just let her rip and

30:29SPEAKERif you had a skip or something it would just try to fix it as best it could it wouldn't say hey

30:33SPEAKERthere's gonna be a problem in the middle of you know so you wouldn't get to like tangerine on

30:37SPEAKERled zeppelin 3 and be like what the hell is this horrible sound right yeah um yeah like eac will

30:43SPEAKERvery exhaustively tell you if there's anything wrong with the disc but again it's like it's

30:46SPEAKERpretty technical and detailed to set up in terms of like you know you have to you have to tell it

30:52SPEAKERwhich encoder you want to use where the file where the executable for that is located like give it a

30:55SPEAKERbunch of command switches for quality and stuff like that like it's not super user-friendly yeah

30:59SPEAKERbut once you get it set up it's pretty easy just throw discs in and go for you know for those meat

31:05SPEAKERpuppets cds that i may or may not ever actually listen to again well but i mean but yeah the nice

31:10SPEAKERthing is once you do set that up there's not it's not like ripping movies where you have to kind of

31:13SPEAKEReyeball it every single time so as far as movies go i i just got rid of all my old dvds i never

31:18SPEAKERbothered to rip them oh i just donated them instead because they're filthy standard definition i don't

31:24SPEAKERwant that shit wow so i can't weigh in on how to rip dvds um specifically so i use a piece of

31:32SPEAKERsoftware called make mkv yeah so that's what i use for blu-rays but yeah i wasn't sure if that also

31:36SPEAKERworked for it works everything yeah well okay um so you basically with make mkv you pull off um

31:43SPEAKERthe way dvds are structured is like each each dvd is a container and the container has some video

31:50SPEAKERand some audio and some subtitles and then sometimes some extra stuff yeah there's there's

31:54SPEAKERlike menu files and it's all like the player interprets the menu program yeah to kind of

32:00SPEAKERfigure out how to play the point being like the the files on the disc are not one-to-one with

32:03SPEAKERthe videos you would want to watch that's exactly it it's not like there's just like movie dot mpg

32:07SPEAKERright you can't just like go in file explorer and windows and like drag a video file off the disc

32:11SPEAKERbecause they're all broken up across multiple files and they're very it's very arcane well

32:15SPEAKERbut make mkv makes that stuff visible well somewhat visible um it doesn't necessarily

32:20SPEAKERlabel everything for you though that's the problem you have to find it yeah uh dvds are a lot easier

32:25SPEAKERthan blu-rays because there's a lot fewer extra things on blu-rays and like the data is structurally

32:29SPEAKERless complicated yeah um the biggest challenge you have with dvds is like sometimes there's two

32:34SPEAKERversions of the movie on the same disc there's like a matted cropped version for four by three

32:38SPEAKERtbs and then a 16 by nine one um you basically the process is open mkv look at the disc pick the

32:47SPEAKERcontent that you want out of the disc save that to your hard drive and then point handbrake at

32:52SPEAKERthat video and and what make mkv does is literally put some matryoshka mkv file with all of the it

32:59SPEAKERdoesn't recompress anything so all of the low low compression mpeg 2 dolby digital 5.1 or gts audio

33:08SPEAKERis just saved to your hard drive so you'll have like a seven gig file it's a perfect

33:12SPEAKERreplication of what was on the disc yeah and then you point handbrake at that seven gig file and you

33:16SPEAKERsay okay turn this into h.264 h.265 or or you just save the whole thing because you're a maniac if

33:21SPEAKERyou're bawling out of control like i am god you just ripping hold blu-rays you stop before the

33:27SPEAKERhandbrake stop wow it's ridiculous i know that's just that's that's okay yeah they're huge like a

33:36SPEAKERlet's say a full-length movie ways can be 50 gigs so different blu-rays use different compression

33:42SPEAKERyeah algorithms so it can vary but i would say it's probably like 30 average like 30 gig a movie

33:47SPEAKER35 for like a two-hour movie it's it's ridiculous i'm gonna have to start compressing stuff at some

33:52SPEAKERpoint i mean i love the idea of having like the literal blu-ray movie at the exact same quality

33:58SPEAKERwell so if you're gonna do that you can just keep the iso and then use i think i want to say cody

34:03SPEAKERlets you just navigate the menus okay i don't know if it does it for blu-ray definitely does it for

34:07SPEAKERblu-ray playback on pc is terrible or it's i mean you basically have to buy playback software like

34:12SPEAKERvlc doesn't handle it properly and you can't just like i can't throw my terminator 2 blu-ray into

34:17SPEAKERthe pc and just play it and so you do have to extract the mkv that way but whatever i so i like

34:24SPEAKERto pull um english language tracks all the english subtitles uh and that way you get director

34:32SPEAKERcommentary it's just because i love a good director commentary yes uh you can also go through really

34:36SPEAKEReasily and find like extra features and stuff like that so if you want to get like the making

34:39SPEAKERof featurettes and all that it's easy to do yeah make mkv will break everything up by what they

34:43SPEAKERcall title which like a title is essentially a video program like it's the movie or it's the

34:48SPEAKERbehind scenes feature or it's you know it's it's what you would watch as a video from start to

34:51SPEAKERfinish on on the disc and a player but sometimes it's like the fbi warning sure yeah yeah it might

34:57SPEAKERbe a trailer it might be it's a self-contained video the reason i bring that up though is it

35:00SPEAKERcan get confusing if you were to put in let's say a japanese animation yes like a foreign language

35:07SPEAKERfilm like animation like frequently you will get like two or even three titles side by side that

35:13SPEAKERare all three the same size they're all like 27 gig or 35 gig and it doesn't go to any length

35:20SPEAKERto tell you what the differences are you just have to eyeball like okay this one has the english and

35:26SPEAKERa bunch of european language tracks and this one has only english and japanese so the difference

35:30SPEAKERmust be that this one has the credits all in japanese you know what i mean like pixar does

35:35SPEAKERcredits in french english and spanish for north america the point i'm making is that make mkv does

35:40SPEAKERnot tell you anything about what the differences are so you really have to just sort of try to

35:44SPEAKERintuit which one is the one you actually want i realize it's kind of a mess i realized a few weeks

35:49SPEAKERago that i ripped the french version of monsters university but it still has the english audio

35:55SPEAKERtrack right but i was watching all the signage even like the handwritten signs in the world

36:00SPEAKERokay i was gonna ask so i am pixar i'm sure has enough attention to detail so good to go through

36:04SPEAKERthe entire movie like translate everything all of the fraternity signs like the join this club all

36:09SPEAKERthis are all in french and it was and and yeah monsters university is in yeah anyway i mean

36:14SPEAKERthat's one of the cool things about the blu-ray format is that they use branching video yeah so

36:18SPEAKERthat they can do that they can fit multiple versions of a movie on the same disc because

36:22SPEAKERit just branches back and forth to the different language exactly stuff blu-ray is awesome but it

36:25SPEAKERmakes it but it makes it harder to figure out how to rip stuff i mean look that was i think how easy

36:30SPEAKERit is to rip probably wasn't a primary design consideration for the spec certainly not speaking

36:35SPEAKERof ripping stuff i love ripping uh here's an email from jabril okay um i've been wondering what

36:41SPEAKERexperiences both of you have with console modding dumping games and emulation lately i've started

36:46SPEAKERdown a rabbit hole learning how to dump ds gamecube weu ps2 and ps3 to my pc it started

36:53SPEAKERwith buying a used ds and tinkering with custom firmware escalated to buying a weu so i could dump

36:58SPEAKERused we and weu disks and then culminated in hunting down a specific model of cd drive that

37:04SPEAKERis capable of reading gamecube disks it's been fun to explore github repositories and old forum posts

37:09SPEAKERfor answers to obscure questions plus it's nice to know that i don't have to rely on the benevolence

37:14SPEAKERof console manufacturers to maintain access to my library of older titles have you messed with

37:19SPEAKERany of the stuff at all so once upon a time there was a moment when it was really easy to hack a we

37:25SPEAKERand i don't remember the specific mechanics but basically you just downloaded something and put

37:28SPEAKERon the sd card i've looked into this i've never done any of the stuff but i've looked into that

37:32SPEAKERmore recently and there's like i think depending on which version of firmware you're on on your

37:35SPEAKERwe there's different there's different there's always yeah a lot of it has to do with like

37:40SPEAKERit might be the web browser or maybe some mail client or something there's like some of the like

37:46SPEAKERsystem level or netflix like there was a third-party app you installed it might have

37:50SPEAKERjust been the we shop channel i can't remember again it depends yeah i think i think one of them

37:54SPEAKERuses like the messages interface to for yeah some kind of exploit anyway it's still possible you

37:58SPEAKERbasically had to follow a series of convoluted and seemingly arbitrary steps and then at the end you

38:03SPEAKERhad a piece of software on the thing that was basically like the we we jailbreak channel yeah

38:09SPEAKERthat then you could rip any of the game cube or we just because those don't just read in any

38:15SPEAKERold cd drive on a pc although it sounds like he found you you can like there's a whole world of

38:20SPEAKERhacking firmware on your optical drive so it'll do weird stuff like right now the best way to

38:25SPEAKERrip uhd disks that i'm aware of your 4k blu-ray is you have to is to mod a firmware on a thumb

38:32SPEAKERon a usb uh on a so sorry on a 4k blu-ray drive there are there are a bunch of uh what are just

38:38SPEAKERadvertised as regular blue bd roms i should say yeah the blu-ray drives for your computer that can

38:43SPEAKERphysically read uhd 4k discs but they don't out of the box but yeah you can yeah you can make that

38:49SPEAKERwork i have not but i've read about it i no comment um so uh but the the i've looked into

38:56SPEAKERthis stuff it was really easy for the we really yeah i don't so i don't have a we so i maybe i

39:02SPEAKERcould probably how did you never have a we oh you never had a we never bought a we somehow i never

39:06SPEAKERbought a we we had wheeze at work for the four we games that i cared about playing well so i ripped

39:14SPEAKERi ripped i wanted rip gamecube games yeah that's my biggest objective and i've never done it but i

39:18SPEAKERthat's what i would like to do but but like the ones that i really was excited about like the

39:23SPEAKERrogue squadron games don't play in dolphin or didn't at the time i haven't i haven't come back

39:28SPEAKERto him a long time okay they used some weird rendering technique that just was off unlike

39:33SPEAKERanything else on that platform yeah uh the we i played skyward sword on the pc and it was great

39:39SPEAKERi played it like 1080p 60 frames a second sure still still really slow start yeah um but yeah

39:46SPEAKERripping the disc you just get an iso and then you can point dolphin at the iso it took a surprising

39:50SPEAKERnumber of tries because there was no like error correction on the on the rip so some of the isos

39:55SPEAKERwould come out bad okay and you'd have to do them again and i don't know why that happened but it

40:00SPEAKERwas just a fact of life i uh just as a shout out i love the round edges on the wii u discs i

40:07SPEAKERit's the best thing about that thing pulled a wii u disc off my shelf like a month ago good

40:12SPEAKERi haven't actually played one of those things in two years or something but i pulled it out

40:16SPEAKERjust to touch the edges of the disc because it's so nice my daughter and i play cat the

40:20SPEAKERcatsuit mario mario 3d world on the regs and we are we almost have all the worlds unlocked nice

40:27SPEAKERit's taken a long time you're gonna get to that ultimate super crazy hard love those round edges

40:31SPEAKERfeel so good they're the best um i've looked into the uh a related topic a good bit and have not

40:37SPEAKERbeen brave enough to try it um which is modding your wii u soft modding your wii u to play game

40:43SPEAKERcube games wait what so the you know the wii u natively can play wii games which means it can

40:49SPEAKERplay game cube games right but they did not enable that feature i assumed it was because the optical

40:54SPEAKERdrive couldn't deal with those tiny discs it can read them wow so there is a software mod for wii

40:59SPEAKERu's that so i've you know i've got uh 25 maybe 30 game cube games in my closet in a box and there's

41:05SPEAKERsome you know some great games real bangers yeah and you know even the uh the wii never had hdmi out

41:11SPEAKERright wasn't it component only so we had component out yeah i think that's why i had to use the game

41:16SPEAKERcube component i think that's why i ended up caring about this because the wii u is the first

41:20SPEAKERnintendo console with like proper digital hdmi out so i was like oh i want the thing that has

41:25SPEAKERan hdmi out to be able to play my game cube games but and it's possible like you can do it it's not

41:31SPEAKERthe easiest mod but the thing that's always spooked me is just like i don't know what if

41:35SPEAKERthey banned my console for all that online wii u stuff i'm doing well and also it's probably still

41:40SPEAKERattached to your switch account that's what i mean that's what i mean is like nintendo can be kind of

41:44SPEAKERodorous about online security stuff like that and like i just don't know if it's worth the risk the

41:48SPEAKERother thing is um i haven't looked into this in a while but we like second hand we use they're real

41:53SPEAKERexpensive not easy to come by no i i went i thought ours was dead a few months ago okay and

41:58SPEAKERit was a real source of tragedy in our house sure um and when i went to look at how much after you

42:06SPEAKERknow second second hand we use cost it was more expensive than it was when it was new it was like

42:11SPEAKER400 bucks it has to be just i assume because they ended manufacturing early because it was kind of a

42:15SPEAKERfailure yeah well and like if you look at the if you look at the the list of titles that can't well

42:21SPEAKERa the software is real cheap so you can get you can get discs pretty inexpensively but like it's

42:26SPEAKERa pretty good catalog for a for a machine that sold like eight million units there are some

42:31SPEAKERlegitimately great games yeah on the wii u yeah and you know most of them are coming to the switch

42:35SPEAKERnow so that's kind of moot um you want to do one more sure how about alex it's coming out on march

42:44SPEAKER23rd i'm ready okay give it to me alex wrote in well this is awkward yes alex wrote in with a bone

42:51SPEAKERto pick oh about our windows episodes oh that's fine i noticed on your recent episodes where you

42:56SPEAKERstack rank the different versions of windows that you skipped over windows 98 second edition what's

43:01SPEAKERup with that just to be clear we didn't stack rank i think i literally wrote stack rank in

43:06SPEAKERone of the episode descriptions was that a mistake oh i feel like that ranking is a performance

43:10SPEAKERreview it is that was a little inside microsoft reference yeah it's the thing everybody hated

43:15SPEAKERabout working at microsoft back in the day they have ended that practice um we had a bunch of

43:19SPEAKERemails about this about windows 98 second edition we also had a bunch of people asking what happened

43:22SPEAKERto windows 9 um oh that's oh because it went from windows 8 8.1 to 10. i i can certainly tell you

43:29SPEAKERwhat i've always heard is the reason well seven eight nine that's not what i was gonna know that's

43:34SPEAKERnot the reason that joke in the initial press release they really did they themselves yes man

43:41SPEAKERthe thing i always heard about why there was no windows 9 is that there is way too much

43:45SPEAKERlegacy software out there with the string the text string windows 95 in it

43:50SPEAKERand that it would cause havoc with if you had if you had something that was windows 9

43:54SPEAKERand that text string was showing up in places where you might also run into windows 95 there

43:58SPEAKERwould be too much like software confusion it's not the case no that my understanding is that that is

44:03SPEAKERnot the case okay my understanding uh and i have not had any kind of confirmation on this is that

44:10SPEAKERit is a straight marketing decision uh because i think apple 9 is uh a the other the other company

44:18SPEAKERthat they were really concerned about uh uh had a operating system called something 10 the other

44:26SPEAKERthing is that in china uh the number nine has a bad luck sound the like number okay and it's it's

44:33SPEAKERalso feared in japan because it's similar to the word for torture and suffering wow it's a super

44:37SPEAKERthose are superstitions i don't but those are two i mean it's one enormous market yeah for windows

44:43SPEAKERokay so um just kind of kill two birds with one stone my my understanding is it was probably a

44:48SPEAKERmarketing decision but they've never officially confirmed that as far as i know safe safe for

44:52SPEAKERinternational release and also sound like you're keeping up with apple yes uh i would love to hear

44:58SPEAKERi would love i mean samsung releases galaxy nines and all that so i like i don't know that the nine

45:04SPEAKERthing the nine superstition thing is real i do know that like they didn't they i'm sure they

45:09SPEAKERwere concerned about os 10 because that was also remember windows 10 came out around the time when

45:13SPEAKERmac laptops were really selling like hotcakes yes absolutely okay so for the second edition

45:20SPEAKERi don't think windows 98 second edition is that important okay so i didn't put on the list i also

45:25SPEAKERkind of forgot it forgot about it yeah um it include the things that added were wd wdm audio

45:31SPEAKERmodel and modem support okay so windows driver model support for audio and mode which means you

45:36SPEAKERdon't necessarily have to plug in drivers for like usb modems and usb sound cards to work

45:43SPEAKERit replaced inner explorer 4 with inner explorer 5 it fixed usb support it added web folders the

45:48SPEAKERweb dev namespace extension for windows explorer which was an incredibly insecure feature and

45:54SPEAKERincluded firewire support for camp orders right yeah okay uh and wake on land did they wow really

46:00SPEAKERis wake on land that old wake on land's been around for a long time i know that i just started

46:03SPEAKERusing that recently yeah it's pretty cool i use it for my steam link it turns on my pc and i can

46:07SPEAKERplay games and they sell i mean they sold a box that said windows 98 second edition on the front

46:12SPEAKERwindows 98 se could be attained obtained as a retail upgrade and a full version packages okay

46:17SPEAKERso it's the kind of thing now that you would buy that's a service it would just you just get it for

46:21SPEAKERfree right but it was probably big enough with net meeting new windows media player like the download

46:29SPEAKERwas probably substantial enough in a time when most of the home audience was on modems that they

46:35SPEAKERhad to sell it as a disc would you believe that i am in the process of setting up a com port a

46:40SPEAKERserial port because this is related to your ubiquity stuff no it's i don't know i already

46:45SPEAKERhave a serial cable for that thing it saved my ass a couple times i am enabling it i'm not gonna

46:51SPEAKERdo it can we start a bbs i'm gonna dude yes absolutely that's a patreon that's a patreon

46:56SPEAKERbacker bonus access to the tech pod bbs i don't know how much longer you're gonna be able to get

47:01SPEAKERa straight up analog copper phone line into your house i think we should do a virtual it's already

47:06SPEAKERi'm guessing dial-in bbs is not gonna work over a VoIP line if i had to you i tried to dial i tried

47:12SPEAKERto do modems over VoIPs at maximum pc with Vonage when VoIP was new yeah it did not work yeah that's

47:17SPEAKERthat's what i the compression did bad things to the modem sounds uh no i'm setting up a serial port

47:22SPEAKERon my nas so i can get console output out of that port if necessary that's nice there have been times

47:27SPEAKERwhen there was it was related to corrupted boot media so it's probably not going to happen often

47:31SPEAKERbut there have been times when like the the ssh and web demons on the nas broke yeah and there

47:36SPEAKERwas no way to get into the machine well so how do you get do you have a usb adapter from on the

47:42SPEAKERmachine yeah so there i've got so that's what i've got for the ubiquity router already there's

47:46SPEAKERa company called ftdi i forget what it stands for but they make chipsets that emulate old like serial

47:52SPEAKERport type hardware okay for for usb or they translate translates so get that rs232 yes so

47:57SPEAKERlike literally i'm about to order what is it's rs232 on one end usb on the other and there's

48:03SPEAKERthere's a tiny like i said a little mediating ic in the in the usb cable okay so that makes windows

48:09SPEAKERsee it as a com port and then you can get serial output so where console output so is it just usb

48:14SPEAKERto usb no no in this case it's you have to have another what is a d sub or whatever yeah the nine

48:20SPEAKERpin yeah yeah yeah d sub was uh a metal gear thing i think right um anyway whatever this is this is

48:28SPEAKERold man tech don't you have to do that the other way too no the on the how do you plug that into

48:34SPEAKERone of your modern computers it does not have a serial port so my motherboard i don't know if

48:37SPEAKERmotherboards still have this but this is about a five-year-old motherboard in my mass you have a

48:41SPEAKERserial port it's got a header it's got headers on the motherboard for an lpt and comports really so

48:47SPEAKERyou have to buy a breakout bracket like you have to just like how you connect the case usb ports to

48:51SPEAKERthe motherboard yeah it also has a header on the motherboard for a comport holy crap i didn't know

48:55SPEAKERanybody still put those on for a printer port again this is about a five-year-old motherboard

48:58SPEAKERso maybe they've not oh man i gotta go look at the manual for my server because that was yeah like

49:02SPEAKERright now when it actually made me think about your problem without not being able to get into

49:05SPEAKERyour machine yeah when i have to fix something i have to like climb up on a ladder and because

49:09SPEAKERit's on a high shelf in my garage also they make it's like a 10-foot cable so you can plug that

49:14SPEAKERinto the uh the serial port on your nest and then run it down to like a laptop you can plug it into

49:18SPEAKERa macbook and then you can use screen in a terminal window and straight up get the console

49:22SPEAKERoutput of the machine it's kind of awesome i want to go one step further yeah and i want to set up a

49:26SPEAKERraspberry pi that's plugged into that so i can just remote into the raspberry pi i've seen people

49:31SPEAKERtalking about using this with a pie as well it's this sounds great it's pretty awesome this is 40

49:36SPEAKERto 40 foot what 45-year-old technology yeah it's every let's get that 112k kilobits per

49:42SPEAKERsecond serial ports are straight up from like the 60s or 70s on the page where i'm i was buying this

49:48SPEAKERcable and on the page i think it's actually on the amazon page like the little their little splash

49:52SPEAKERmarketing graphic straight up talks about connecting it to like cash registers and

49:56SPEAKERpoint of sale and like the 40-year-old embedded machines that you would need to plug a serial

50:00SPEAKERcable into the thing that this is going to jack up your amazon recommendation something fierce it's

50:04SPEAKERgoing to be like this and then metamucil and like adult diapers and and uh yeah a lot of old person

50:12SPEAKERstuff yes i think that'll do it for us today that's it we've turned the cues into a's uh if

50:17SPEAKERyou have more cues i think we have a bunch of questions left we had a bunch of good questions

50:21SPEAKERwe'd like to get through all of them by any stretch so maybe we'll do another q a episode

50:26SPEAKERsometime soon or do a bonus episode or something yeah um but thank you all for listening um the

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51:25SPEAKERshow thanks Brad this was fun yeah thank you bye