00:00SPEAKER- Okay, ranking of holidays, go.
00:02SPEAKER- Oh man, okay.
00:04SPEAKERNumber one, Thanksgiving.
00:06SPEAKERNumber two,
00:10SPEAKERmaybe Halloween.
00:11SPEAKERNumber three, flag day.
00:13SPEAKERBig fan of flag day.
00:15SPEAKER- Wow.
00:15SPEAKER- Number four, Christmas maybe.
00:18SPEAKERI don't know.
00:19SPEAKER- Damn.
00:20SPEAKER- Christmas is, I have different feelings about Christmas
00:22SPEAKERas an adult with the kids than I did it as a kid.
00:25SPEAKER- Yeah, that's fair.
00:26SPEAKER- And then all the way at the bottom of the list
00:27SPEAKERis 4th of July.
00:28SPEAKER- Okay.
00:29SPEAKER- What?
00:30SPEAKER- 'Cause fuck fireworks, man.
00:31SPEAKER- Oh, sure.
00:32SPEAKEREspecially if you've got dogs, I guess, and stuff.
00:34SPEAKER- Or children, or just don't want,
00:35SPEAKERlive in a state that you don't want to burn down,
00:37SPEAKERit turns out.
00:39SPEAKERWhat's your, give me your list.
00:42SPEAKER- So, okay, I was just thinking of the three year enders.
00:45SPEAKER- Oh, Christmas, New Year's, and Thanksgiving?
00:47SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, we just get a good monthly cadence,
00:49SPEAKERjust a boom, boom, boom.
00:50SPEAKER- I do like the boom, boom, boom.
00:51SPEAKER- I'm gonna say of the three,
00:54SPEAKERThanksgiving is a dead last for me.
00:56SPEAKER- What?
00:57SPEAKER- Which is not to knock Thanksgiving.
00:59SPEAKERI certainly, I love Thanksgiving.
01:01SPEAKER- Wow.
01:02SPEAKER- But it's primarily a food holiday.
01:03SPEAKER- Is this 'cause we don't do the big thing anymore?
01:05SPEAKER- Do you not?
01:06SPEAKER- Not really.
01:07SPEAKER- You're not doing it anymore.
01:08SPEAKER- The pandemic kind of finished it.
01:09SPEAKER- I didn't want to ask.
01:10SPEAKERI didn't want, I wasn't going to ask.
01:11SPEAKERI was just like, you know, I'm not gonna invite myself.
01:13SPEAKERAnd if he asks, then I'll say, yeah, I'd love to come.
01:16SPEAKER- Look, we were going to,
01:18SPEAKERand then just the amount of,
01:19SPEAKERthe amount of, it's, there's a lot of work for the food,
01:22SPEAKERbut then there's more work
01:23SPEAKERthat's like getting the house ready to have people over.
01:25SPEAKER- Yeah.
01:26SPEAKER- And it's just the food, I think we'd be fine.
01:28SPEAKERBut the getting the house ready to have people over
01:30SPEAKERis just a lot.
01:31SPEAKER- Yes, that's, yeah, that is for sure.
01:33SPEAKERThat's for sure.
01:34SPEAKERI don't know, I'm in a weird head space
01:35SPEAKER'cause I feel like Halloween was yesterday.
01:37SPEAKERLike I'm still kind of thinking spooky stuff.
01:40SPEAKER- Yeah, we just took our Halloween decorations down
01:41SPEAKERlike five days ago, I think.
01:43SPEAKER- But then we went to Trader Joe's today.
01:45SPEAKERAnd between that and watching some network television
01:47SPEAKERthe other night, it's extremely,
01:48SPEAKERbasically like Christmas next week now.
01:51SPEAKER- I mean, Gina went to Target the other day
01:52SPEAKERand came back with a bunch of Christmas stuff.
01:54SPEAKERAnd I was like, why the hell did you buy,
01:55SPEAKERit's not even Thanksgiving.
01:55SPEAKERI was like, look, if I don't buy it now,
01:57SPEAKERit'll be gone by the time I need it.
01:59SPEAKERAnd I was like, what, so what?
02:00SPEAKERI'm gonna go out the day after Thanksgiving
02:02SPEAKERand they're gonna have Valentine's Day stuff there?
02:03SPEAKERShe said pretty much, so.
02:05SPEAKER- Like I just bought a couple of bottles
02:07SPEAKERof some like spiced Christmas ale.
02:10SPEAKER- Yeah.
02:10SPEAKER- Not two hours ago.
02:11SPEAKER- Did you get the, you get the,
02:13SPEAKERyou get that Anchor Steam annual Christmas release?
02:15SPEAKER- No, Anchor Steam's done, man.
02:17SPEAKER- But there's no Anchor Steam anymore?
02:18SPEAKER- Oh, you didn't hear?
02:19SPEAKER- I don't really drink beer anymore.
02:20SPEAKER- I don't know what this cold open is,
02:22SPEAKERbut yes, Anchor Steam has ceased to exist.
02:24SPEAKER- Oh man, I'm super sad now.
02:25SPEAKER- Yeah, I know, right?
02:26SPEAKERIt's like, wasn't it?
02:27SPEAKERI think it was the oldest brewery.
02:28SPEAKER- It was the oldest craft brewery in the United States, yeah.
02:30SPEAKER- I think Sapporo bought them some years ago
02:32SPEAKERand then I don't know what happened,
02:33SPEAKERbut they killed them off like three, four months ago.
02:36SPEAKER- God, that's awful.
02:37SPEAKER- Yeah, it's pretty sad if you have lived in San Francisco.
02:39SPEAKERI've never went, I never went to their brewery.
02:41SPEAKERGod damn it, I lived here for 20 years
02:43SPEAKERand I never went to that brewery.
02:44SPEAKER- Okay, you want the truth
02:46SPEAKERor do you want me to make this easier for you?
02:48SPEAKER- Uh, give it to me straight.
02:51SPEAKER- The brewery tour is fricking awesome.
02:52SPEAKERYou should have totally gone.
02:53SPEAKER- Man.
02:54SPEAKER- You got to see all the open brewing vats
02:57SPEAKERand the whole thing.
02:58SPEAKERIt was really cool.
02:59SPEAKERAnd then they got to taste in the brewing room,
03:00SPEAKERthe tasting room afterwards.
03:02SPEAKER- Well, my family lives uncomfortably close
03:04SPEAKERto what is now Sierra Nevada,
03:05SPEAKERthe East Coast base of operations.
03:08SPEAKER- Yeah.
03:08SPEAKER- I may have a brewery tour, so I can-
03:10SPEAKER- You should do that.
03:11SPEAKER- I could go see some beer.
03:12SPEAKERAnyway.
03:13SPEAKER- Yeah.
03:13SPEAKER- You know, Thanksgiving.
03:14SPEAKERIt's a great number three.
03:16SPEAKER- I'm personally offended by this ranking already.
03:18SPEAKER- It's just an afternoon of decadent indulgence.
03:22SPEAKER- Yeah, all those pies I made, years and years of pies.
03:27SPEAKEROkay, what's number two?
03:28SPEAKER- I think Halloween now.
03:30SPEAKER- Hold on, what are the three banger lists
03:33SPEAKERand a year list?
03:34SPEAKERI thought you were just doing three.
03:35SPEAKER- This is the three is what I'm saying.
03:38SPEAKER- Oh, yours is, oh, I thought you were gonna say
03:40SPEAKERThanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's,
03:41SPEAKERnot Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas.
03:43SPEAKER- Does New Year's even count?
03:45SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't know.
03:46SPEAKERBut what was it Ryan used to say about New Year's
03:47SPEAKERand St. Patrick's Day?
03:48SPEAKERIt's like amateur hour for people who have drinking problems.
03:52SPEAKER(sighs)
03:53SPEAKER(upbeat music)
04:22SPEAKER- Welcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod, I'm Will.
04:25SPEAKER- I'm Brad, hi.
04:27SPEAKER- Hi, hello, hi, hi, hello, hi.
04:29SPEAKER- Hello.
04:30SPEAKER- This is the, as it is the week before Thanksgiving.
04:33SPEAKERWell, okay, so full disclosure,
04:35SPEAKERwe were gonna do a Steam Deck episode this week,
04:37SPEAKERbut FedEx ate the Steam Deck
04:39SPEAKERalong the way somewhere between--
04:41SPEAKER- Was it FedEx?
04:43SPEAKER- It's unclear.
04:44SPEAKER- Definitively FedEx or nobody does this?
04:46SPEAKER- Look, I'm throwing shade at FedEx, I don't know.
04:49SPEAKERAnyway, the Steam Deck didn't get here in time
04:51SPEAKERto do the show about it this week.
04:52SPEAKERIt's gonna arrive tomorrow morning it looks like.
04:53SPEAKER- Your Steam Deck OLED just walked away, huh?
04:56SPEAKER- I'm somebody along the chain,
04:57SPEAKERgot a Steam Deck OLED and I'm happy for them,
04:59SPEAKERor it's sitting like under a desk somewhere in Seattle.
05:02SPEAKERBut needless to say, it doesn't matter.
05:05SPEAKERWe are, so we'll do a Steam Deck episode next week,
05:08SPEAKERI think, 'cause of the thought.
05:12SPEAKERIf you want some Steam Deck info in the meantime,
05:14SPEAKERcheck the Gamers Nexus Steam Deck teardown
05:17SPEAKERwhere they took both the old Steam Deck
05:19SPEAKERand the new Steam Deck and took them apart side by side
05:21SPEAKERto show you exactly what's changed
05:22SPEAKERand there's more to it than what Val was talking about,
05:24SPEAKERwhich is cool.
05:25SPEAKER- Interesting.
05:27SPEAKER- But, so this week we're going to do
05:29SPEAKERour legally mandated technologies
05:31SPEAKERwe are thankful for episode.
05:33SPEAKER- Yes, this is our, I believe, fourth Thanksgiving?
05:37SPEAKERYeah, this is our Thanksgiving as a podcast.
05:39SPEAKER- I don't know that we've done four techs we're thankful for.
05:42SPEAKER- I'm not sure we have either.
05:43SPEAKER- I could've looked, but yeah.
05:45SPEAKER- Look, Darryl looked on our duty.
05:47SPEAKER- So the idea here is here are the things,
05:50SPEAKERthey're not big enough to be a whole episode.
05:51SPEAKERThey're like things that have made our lives better
05:54SPEAKERin some important way, or more minor way in some cases.
05:59SPEAKERAnd I think all of this starts with nanotape.
06:02SPEAKERThat was one of the first ones
06:03SPEAKERthat we talked about in this context.
06:05SPEAKER- Nanotape is just like the prototypical tech pod product
06:07SPEAKERin every context, but yes.
06:10SPEAKER- For people who don't, newcomers to the show,
06:12SPEAKERnanotape is taped with little microscopic bubbles on it.
06:16SPEAKERAnd it basically affixes to smooth surfaces.
06:19SPEAKERYou don't want to put it on drywall
06:20SPEAKER'cause it'll rip your drywall off
06:21SPEAKERif your walls are real smooth.
06:24SPEAKERBut I use it to hold down all the stuff on my desk
06:27SPEAKERin a non-permanent way so that when I press a button
06:30SPEAKERon a stream deck or move my mouse wrist rest
06:32SPEAKERor move my headphone volume knob doober,
06:36SPEAKERit doesn't slide around on the desk.
06:38SPEAKERIt makes me very happy.
06:39SPEAKER- Yes, keep some nanotape around.
06:41SPEAKERThe brand does not matter.
06:42SPEAKER- No, that's the other question that comes up
06:44SPEAKERfrom people who hear us talk about it more recently
06:47SPEAKERis like, hey, which one should I get?
06:48SPEAKERI couldn't even tell you the name of whatever one we have.
06:51SPEAKER- I just buy the cheap one on Amazon.
06:53SPEAKERI don't buy the Alien.
06:54SPEAKERThe Alien brand stuff that does the advertising on TV
06:57SPEAKERis like three prices compared to the cheap stuff, so.
07:00SPEAKERAlso, it's reusable.
07:01SPEAKERLike it's not like it's permanent.
07:02SPEAKERThere's no adhesive, so you can peel a piece off
07:05SPEAKERand use it again on something else later
07:06SPEAKERif you're so inclined to use it and it's cheap.
07:08SPEAKER- Just don't use it on your PlayStation 5 stand.
07:11SPEAKER- Why, what happened to your PlayStation 5 stand?
07:13SPEAKER- It became very difficult to remove.
07:15SPEAKER- Oh no.
07:16SPEAKER- And something, I was a bit careless.
07:19SPEAKERI was trying to pull the stand off
07:21SPEAKERand I was a bit careless as to which part of the stand
07:24SPEAKERI was holding on as I pulled it.
07:27SPEAKERAnd that's how my stand got broken.
07:29SPEAKER- I'm having thunder and lightning.
07:31SPEAKER- Wow.
07:32SPEAKER- That doesn't happen here.
07:33SPEAKER- Are you thankful for thunderstorms?
07:36SPEAKER- I'm wondering about the surge protector situation
07:38SPEAKERunder my desk, 'cause I don't think.
07:40SPEAKER- I mean, you know, I could say right now,
07:42SPEAKERshould I just kick this off?
07:43SPEAKERI'm thankful for some good surge protectors.
07:44SPEAKERI finally, I tossed the,
07:48SPEAKERwhat turned out to be nine-year-old,
07:50SPEAKERmono-priced, no-name surge protectors recently
07:52SPEAKERthat I was choosing for kind of everything.
07:55SPEAKER- Those aren't gonna do what you want, Brad.
07:57SPEAKER- They were, I bought them in 2014.
07:59SPEAKERThey were mono-priced.
08:00SPEAKERI don't think they were, anyway.
08:01SPEAKERI bought some nice, relatively expensive trip light.
08:05SPEAKERI mean, they're 40 bucks.
08:07SPEAKERWhich 40 bucks is like, maybe 45 is a little high
08:10SPEAKERfor a surge protector, but like,
08:11SPEAKERI thought about it, it was when I bought that new TV.
08:14SPEAKERI bought the new TV and I've got a PlayStation 5
08:17SPEAKERand an Xbox and a bunch of other stuff in there.
08:19SPEAKER- You've got $2,000 worth of hardware plugged into your TV
08:22SPEAKERand you had a $9 surge protector from 25 years ago
08:25SPEAKERplugged into it.
08:26SPEAKER- Anyway, I'm thankful for prioritizing like,
08:28SPEAKERsome things that should be prioritized,
08:30SPEAKEReven if they're mundane and not actually like,
08:32SPEAKERsexy or interesting or exciting, you know?
08:34SPEAKERIt's like, nobody likes, nobody gets excited
08:36SPEAKERabout surge protectors,
08:37SPEAKERbut you should have probably good surge protectors.
08:39SPEAKER- There's a couple places in my house,
08:40SPEAKERlike the surge protector behind my TV is old at this point,
08:44SPEAKERbut it's like, the TV also is old,
08:46SPEAKERso when I replace the TV, I'll replace the surge protector.
08:48SPEAKER- That's fair.
08:49SPEAKER- I should probably get a better surge protector
08:50SPEAKERfor my computer, just 'cause it's, you know,
08:55SPEAKERit's getting up there.
08:55SPEAKER- Yeah, not to like, push triple A,
08:58SPEAKERthat's just the ones I happen to look at,
09:00SPEAKER'cause that's what some places recommended,
09:01SPEAKERbut they have models that, ironically,
09:04SPEAKERthe higher dollar models literally just stop working
09:06SPEAKERwhen the surge protection is no longer in place.
09:08SPEAKERLike, they basically just are done.
09:10SPEAKER- Yeah.
09:11SPEAKER- The one I got is not that hardcore,
09:13SPEAKERbut it does, like, there's a big, obvious light
09:16SPEAKERthat stops lighting up when the surge protection
09:18SPEAKERis no longer in effect.
09:19SPEAKER- Because the thing that makes the surge protection work
09:22SPEAKERstops being effective after a certain amount
09:23SPEAKERof current runs through, basically.
09:25SPEAKER- It's got a capacity that runs out
09:28SPEAKERas it absorbs energy anyway.
09:31SPEAKER- So on the power strip front,
09:33SPEAKERI actually have one here that, I really like Anker,
09:38SPEAKERthese Anker power strips that have like,
09:39SPEAKERtwo or three 120 volt plugs on them,
09:42SPEAKERbut then also two or three USB ports
09:46SPEAKERthat are with a high wattage charger.
09:48SPEAKERSo you can get them anywhere from 20 to 65 watts, I think.
09:51SPEAKERThe price goes up the higher the wattage,
09:53SPEAKERlike the 65 watts are mainly
09:54SPEAKERfor people plugging laptops in.
09:56SPEAKERBut I put the cheap, the $20, 20 or 30 watt charger ones
10:01SPEAKERnext to the chair and the sofa in the living room
10:04SPEAKERso I can plug my phone in when I'm sitting there,
10:05SPEAKERand I need either extra power for the Steam Deck
10:09SPEAKERor the iPad or whatever happens to be using this,
10:11SPEAKERit's just sitting there using.
10:14SPEAKERIt's a really nice quality of life thing,
10:15SPEAKERand it's also great for when I'm traveling,
10:18SPEAKER'cause I plug those into the wall,
10:20SPEAKERand then I get the plugs that I need next to the bed
10:22SPEAKERon the nightstand, even if the hotel or Airbnb or whatever
10:25SPEAKERhas shit plugs and no place to charge your stuff
10:28SPEAKERon the nightstand.
10:29SPEAKERSo, and the one that I like is an Anker power cube
10:33SPEAKERwith a 30 watt charger.
10:35SPEAKER- That sounds useful.
10:36SPEAKERSpeaking of power, I don't have this yet.
10:38SPEAKERI have resolved to get a Pine Power.
10:40SPEAKERRemember the Pine Power?
10:41SPEAKER- Yeah, it's like a power bank USB charger
10:46SPEAKERthat has displays that tells you
10:48SPEAKERhow much the power the stuff is using.
10:49SPEAKER- Oh, it looks so awesome.
10:51SPEAKERIt looks all industrial.
10:52SPEAKERIt's just got the little like seven segment display numbers
10:55SPEAKERon it to show what the voltage is coming out
10:57SPEAKERof each USB port.
10:58SPEAKERIt's made by Pine 64.
10:59SPEAKERWe did the FOS pod.
11:00SPEAKER- Yeah, we talked about the Pine cell as well.
11:02SPEAKER- Lukasz from Pine 64 a few months ago.
11:06SPEAKER- Yep.
11:07SPEAKER- I was going to order it.
11:08SPEAKERIt's like four USB-A and one USB-C and the USB-C is 65 watts
11:12SPEAKERwhich is, it should be fine for my MacBook Pro.
11:16SPEAKERLike that MacBook Pro comes with a 96 watt charger
11:19SPEAKERI want to say, but like, I think 65 is probably fine.
11:22SPEAKERLike that's only going to matter
11:24SPEAKERif you're like running at a hundred percent load
11:26SPEAKERfor long periods of time, right?
11:28SPEAKER- Yeah, like if you're using the thing normally
11:31SPEAKERand not, if you're not using it for like 64 hours straight
11:34SPEAKERor something, you're pumping more energy in
11:37SPEAKERthan it's using on the moment to moment.
11:39SPEAKERSo it'll probably like, it's a calculus problem
11:42SPEAKERat that point, right?
11:43SPEAKERIs it all about rates in and rates out and all that?
11:45SPEAKER- So yeah, I think the 65 watt port will be just fine
11:48SPEAKERfor my laptop, but so I've got a Mac,
11:49SPEAKERI've got the MacBook charger and an Anker
11:51SPEAKERlike little wireless phone charging stand right here.
11:54SPEAKERAnd the Pine Power has got a wireless phone charging pad
11:56SPEAKERon the top of it.
11:57SPEAKER- Oh, that's nice.
11:58SPEAKER- So I'm going to declutter the desk with one tiny box
12:00SPEAKERthat's charges my laptop and some other USB stuff
12:03SPEAKERand an iPhone on top, all in little four by four brick.
12:07SPEAKERI hope to be thankful for that thing soon.
12:09SPEAKERTheir shipping time, say up to 45 days,
12:11SPEAKERI'm literally going to be out of town
12:13SPEAKERbefore that thing would get here.
12:14SPEAKERSo I'm going to order it after the year.
12:17SPEAKER- I mean, speaking of charging stuff, I really love,
12:21SPEAKERit's the year of USB-C, I think this year.
12:23SPEAKER- Yes, yes, yes, you're absolutely right.
12:26SPEAKERI don't know what happened.
12:27SPEAKERI feel like I just turned around one day
12:28SPEAKERand everything was USB-C.
12:30SPEAKER- Like lightning's gone.
12:31SPEAKERI have a phone that has USB-C now, my iPad's USB-C,
12:35SPEAKERmy laptop's USB-C, everything that I use,
12:37SPEAKERall my controllers are USB-C.
12:39SPEAKERI haven't used a micro USB plug
12:43SPEAKERin probably six months at this point.
12:45SPEAKERIt feels really good.
12:46SPEAKER- Yes, yes, I guess it's been building
12:48SPEAKERfor like three or four years now.
12:49SPEAKERLike I think it was the PS5 and Series X coming out
12:52SPEAKERand both of those controllers being USB-C.
12:54SPEAKERThat was the big eye-opening moment of like,
12:56SPEAKERoh, I guess we're actually doing this now.
12:57SPEAKERBut I think the thing that made me realize,
13:00SPEAKERoh, USB-C is just here, it's done,
13:02SPEAKERlike that whole thing happened,
13:03SPEAKERis like every little cheap device I'm buying now
13:05SPEAKERthat comes with a USB cable, it's USB-C.
13:08SPEAKERNobody is shipping non-C anything at this point.
13:12SPEAKER- Yep, also on the power front,
13:15SPEAKERI can't overemphasize how much I love
13:19SPEAKERthe MagSafe stuff on the newer iPhones.
13:22SPEAKERIt's basically a magnetic ring.
13:24SPEAKERSo it's like a Qi charger with a magnetic ring
13:28SPEAKERthat snaps it into the right spot.
13:29SPEAKERSo you like, remember the early pads,
13:32SPEAKERyou'd put your phone down,
13:33SPEAKERyou wouldn't get it in the right spot
13:34SPEAKERand it wouldn't charge that night,
13:35SPEAKERand you wake up the next morning,
13:36SPEAKERyou have a dead phone, or a mostly dead phone.
13:39SPEAKERWith the MagSafe stuff, it just snaps into place,
13:41SPEAKERjust like the old MagSafe ports on your laptop
13:43SPEAKERor the new MagSafe ports on your newer laptops, too.
13:46SPEAKERAnd in addition to like the MagSafe charger,
13:50SPEAKERthe mounts for your car or your desk or whatever
13:53SPEAKERthat kind of set it up on a stand,
13:55SPEAKERthey're also like third-party accessories.
13:58SPEAKERSo Anker, my fanboy and the silver weird Anker stuff
14:01SPEAKERis done after this one, I promise.
14:03SPEAKERBut Anker makes a ring,
14:05SPEAKERit's like a PopSocket-style phone grip
14:08SPEAKERthat has a little pop-out ring
14:09SPEAKERand it fits onto the MagSafe,
14:11SPEAKERso I can have my no-case phone,
14:16SPEAKERbut still have a nice way to hold onto it
14:17SPEAKERwithout having to death grip it the whole time.
14:22SPEAKERAnd that clips on with the MagSafe.
14:23SPEAKERThat thing's called the Anker magnetic phone grip,
14:27SPEAKERand it comes in colors to match your phone.
14:30SPEAKER- That sounds nice. That actually, that makes me realize
14:32SPEAKERthat Pine Power's iPad or the wireless charging pad
14:35SPEAKERis not going to have anything like that.
14:37SPEAKERNow I'm like, hmm, hmm, oh.
14:40SPEAKER- No, does your, but I mean,
14:43SPEAKERif it's a stand or a flat thing that's rectangular,
14:46SPEAKERit was just the round ones that were hard.
14:47SPEAKER- Okay.
14:48SPEAKER- Those first-gen round pads, I always, I would miss a lot.
14:51SPEAKER- Yeah, this is flat and it is square.
14:54SPEAKER- Yeah.
14:55SPEAKER- I'm sure it's fine, easy enough to line up.
14:56SPEAKERI mean, you know, the worst, well, I guess the worst case,
14:58SPEAKERlike you said, is you get no charge, but I mean,
15:02SPEAKERshort of that, the worst that happens
15:04SPEAKERis your phone is a little warm
15:05SPEAKER'cause you didn't get ideal charge,
15:07SPEAKERand some of that electricity dissipated as heat instead.
15:11SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, the nice thing about the MagSafe
15:13SPEAKERis because the ring positions the pad
15:16SPEAKERprecisely where it needs to be,
15:18SPEAKERit works a little bit better through the cases.
15:21SPEAKERSo you don't waste as much energy traversing
15:25SPEAKERthe what, two millimeters of the case thickness or whatever.
15:28SPEAKER- Yeah, this is a broad and somewhat ill-defined category.
15:35SPEAKERI've written it down in the notes here
15:36SPEAKERas modular computer stuff.
15:39SPEAKER- Yeah.
15:40SPEAKER- I changed machines, I'm on this Intel machine now,
15:43SPEAKERwhich meant, you know, moving a bunch of hardware around
15:46SPEAKERand then also wiping a drive and reinstalling,
15:49SPEAKERactually, I didn't wipe the drive at first.
15:51SPEAKERAt first, I booted up that AMD-ified Windows install
15:55SPEAKERon this Intel machine.
15:55SPEAKER- Oh my God, Brad, how'd that go?
15:57SPEAKER- Just to see what would happen, it was a bit of a mess.
16:00SPEAKER- So you have to delete everything from device manager.
16:02SPEAKERYou have to show all the hidden devices
16:04SPEAKERand delete everything from device manager.
16:05SPEAKER- I didn't consider that.
16:07SPEAKER- Theoretically, it'll just work.
16:09SPEAKER- I figured it would be more graceful than that.
16:11SPEAKERI figured it would just work anyway,
16:12SPEAKER'cause it would just see that those devices
16:13SPEAKERwere no longer present
16:14SPEAKERand stop trying to do anything with them.
16:16SPEAKER- So it does, but they, look,
16:19SPEAKERthe better option is to back that thing up,
16:21SPEAKERwipe it, and then reinstall.
16:22SPEAKER- That was always the goal,
16:24SPEAKERbut it was more just an experiment to see how it would go,
16:26SPEAKERbut boy, it was janky.
16:28SPEAKER- Do you have an NVMe to SSD, to SATA,
16:31SPEAKERto USB adapter, rather?
16:32SPEAKER- No, so that kind of ties into what I'm talking about here,
16:35SPEAKERand I should get one of those.
16:36SPEAKERLike, I'm still, I've got old SATA,
16:40SPEAKERoh, you're talking about for the Windows drive.
16:41SPEAKERYou're talking about the actual system drive?
16:44SPEAKER- Yeah, so you can put the Windows drive in
16:46SPEAKERwithout having to boot off of it
16:48SPEAKERand back it up using another computer.
16:49SPEAKER- No, I probably should do that.
16:50SPEAKERI just imaged it to an external drive.
16:52SPEAKER- That works too.
16:53SPEAKER- Well, that kind of goes to what I'm talking about here.
16:54SPEAKERThere's just so much stuff out there,
16:56SPEAKERlike, and it's usually pretty inexpensive,
16:57SPEAKERor in some cases, we're talking about software.
17:00SPEAKERLike, there's so much stuff for getting data off of things,
17:03SPEAKERbacking things up, storing things externally.
17:06SPEAKERLike, changing machines is so much less painful
17:09SPEAKERthan it used to be.
17:09SPEAKERYou know what I mean?
17:10SPEAKER- Yeah, I have a bin of just like,
17:13SPEAKERit's like a USB to SATA adapter.
17:15SPEAKERThere's a parallel ATA to USB adapter.
17:19SPEAKER- I still need to get one of those
17:20SPEAKERfor the old hard drives at my parents' house
17:21SPEAKERthat I'm afraid to try to spin up.
17:23SPEAKER- The NVMe to USB adapter was like $15
17:26SPEAKERand has saved my ass a couple of times, so.
17:29SPEAKER- I need to, that absolutely needs to go into this kit
17:31SPEAKERof stuff that I'm talking about.
17:32SPEAKERSo I've got like a one terabyte SATA drive
17:36SPEAKERthat I used to use in a machine,
17:37SPEAKERbut now I have a $10 USB 3.0 to SATA cable.
17:41SPEAKERNow that thing is a great external backup target, you know?
17:44SPEAKERStuff like that just did not exist even 10,
17:47SPEAKERmaybe 10 years ago.
17:49SPEAKERStuff like that was starting to show up.
17:49SPEAKER- It was there, it was more expensive.
17:51SPEAKER- Yeah, but it's like everything is like pretty reliable
17:54SPEAKERand pretty inexpensive these days.
17:57SPEAKERYou know, obviously my NAS is a bit more elaborate,
18:00SPEAKERbut a NAS could just be like a hard drive
18:01SPEAKERplugged into your router if you want.
18:03SPEAKERBut having all my files external to the PC is pretty nice.
18:07SPEAKER- Yeah, it is.
18:08SPEAKERIt turns out having your data stored someplace
18:11SPEAKERthat's not on the machine means that when the machine
18:13SPEAKERis weird or janky, your problems are a lot more minor.
18:17SPEAKERLike when I had to swap out my CPU earlier this year,
18:21SPEAKERhaving all my stuff stored on the NAS mat,
18:23SPEAKERI could just grab the old computer, plug it in.
18:25SPEAKERI was back up and working in no time.
18:26SPEAKER- Totally, like I worked off of my MacBook
18:28SPEAKERfor like a good week as I've been swapping parts around
18:31SPEAKERand like reinstalling windows and stuff.
18:33SPEAKERAnd like having everything external to the machine
18:36SPEAKERI'm actually working on has really proved its worth.
18:39SPEAKERAnd again, you don't need a full-sized tower NAS
18:42SPEAKERlike I have necessarily to do this.
18:44SPEAKERYou could get one external drive and plug it into something.
18:48SPEAKERI'm doing like, I've got Git repos for stuff
18:51SPEAKERlike configuration files now
18:53SPEAKERthat just get pulled down automatically.
18:55SPEAKER- Oh, that's funny.
18:56SPEAKER- I've got another Git repo for theoretically
18:59SPEAKERlike multiple things I may write in the future.
19:02SPEAKERRight now, it's just that little podcasts utility
19:04SPEAKERthat I did a few months ago, which is saving me tons of time
19:07SPEAKERbut like having stuff like that external, you know,
19:10SPEAKERit's like, again, you can just switch to something else
19:13SPEAKERyou work off of and just sync all that stuff and go.
19:16SPEAKERIt's so nice to not be dependent on one machine
19:19SPEAKERand feel like everything is gonna fall apart
19:23SPEAKERif something happens to that one machine.
19:24SPEAKER- I mean, it's nice to have a live copy on the one machine
19:27SPEAKERon your live main machine
19:28SPEAKERand then a backup someplace else too,
19:30SPEAKERlike knowing your backup is good.
19:31SPEAKER- Yeah, and there are just so many,
19:32SPEAKERit just feels like there are so many tools
19:34SPEAKERfor facilitating things like that these days.
19:37SPEAKERI mean, there's like,
19:39SPEAKERthere's so many free applications out there
19:40SPEAKERfor like win merge, have you used win merge?
19:43SPEAKERHave we talked about that before?
19:44SPEAKER- Yeah, win merge is great.
19:45SPEAKER- Win merge is a great way to diff directories, for example,
19:47SPEAKERif you're like, if you're trying to back a bunch of data up
19:50SPEAKERand you're like, did that copy finish?
19:51SPEAKERDid it skip anything?
19:52SPEAKERLike, do I really wanna make absolutely sure
19:54SPEAKERall these files got moved?
19:55SPEAKERLike it's very quick, easy way to just compare directories
19:58SPEAKERand make sure everything is identical.
20:00SPEAKER- I use Filebot for that, I think,
20:02SPEAKERbut that's just because I had paid for a Filebot license
20:05SPEAKERbecause it was a good way to create the directory structure
20:07SPEAKERthat Plex wants for ripped DVDs on your server.
20:12SPEAKER- Sure.
20:12SPEAKER- And it was kind of expensive,
20:13SPEAKERbut it does pull metadata from like TVDB and stuff like that
20:18SPEAKERto make sure it's all right and plexy.
20:20SPEAKER- Sure.
20:22SPEAKERYou know, there's everything, the search utility
20:23SPEAKERthat we love.
20:25SPEAKER- Yeah.
20:26SPEAKER- There's, there are now,
20:27SPEAKERI think this started with WinDirStat back in the day,
20:30SPEAKERbut I feel like there are like half a dozen of those now.
20:33SPEAKER- I still use WinDirStat, is there something better?
20:35SPEAKERI use SpaceSniffer, I like that one pretty well.
20:37SPEAKERThere's also Wiztree, a lot of people like Wiztree
20:40SPEAKERclaims to be the fastest one by a lot.
20:43SPEAKERWhat we're talking about is like a whole drive scanning
20:45SPEAKERutility that will visualize the layout of the data,
20:48SPEAKERbasically in kind of giant blocks put together.
20:50SPEAKERSo you can see like, you know,
20:51SPEAKERbasically the biggest block is the biggest directory
20:53SPEAKERin terms of the space it's using.
20:55SPEAKERAnyway, I know like you and I work at home,
20:57SPEAKERwe work on our machines that are also kind of our personal
20:59SPEAKERand gaming machines.
21:00SPEAKERLike I'm sure the stuff is a little bit less crucial
21:02SPEAKERfor people, you know, like I actually have to remind
21:05SPEAKERmyself, like a lot of people who listen to the show
21:07SPEAKERhave a computer at home that they just play games on.
21:09SPEAKERAnd it's just like, well, if something happens to that,
21:11SPEAKERit's fine, I'll have to build something else
21:14SPEAKERand maybe sync some cloud saves again.
21:15SPEAKERYou know, not everybody's computing stuff at home
21:18SPEAKERis as mission critical as ours, but like, it's just,
21:20SPEAKERit's nice how many tools there are for girding machines
21:25SPEAKERthat are mission critical.
21:27SPEAKER- It's funny, 'cause I was on the PC World podcast
21:29SPEAKERa couple of weeks ago with Adam, a friend of the show,
21:32SPEAKERAdam and Steve from Gamers Nexus.
21:34SPEAKERWe were talking about this, about what the difference,
21:37SPEAKERlike how you build a machine when it's just
21:39SPEAKERlike your gaming machine for goofing around
21:41SPEAKERwhen you're at home at night versus when it's your
21:44SPEAKERgaming machine that you're goofing around at home at night,
21:46SPEAKERbut also like every day that you can't use it,
21:48SPEAKERyou're not making money.
21:50SPEAKERThat puts a different lens on things.
21:52SPEAKERAnd the response I got to talking about that was
21:55SPEAKERa lot of people saying, hey, my computer is also
21:59SPEAKERthe way I make money and without that,
22:00SPEAKERI'm in the same boat as you are.
22:02SPEAKERAnd it was like accountants and people who are,
22:06SPEAKERlike a lot of like independent contractor type jobs
22:10SPEAKERwhere people are coming in and helping people
22:12SPEAKERwith their businesses or doing bookkeeping or whatever.
22:14SPEAKERSo I get it.
22:15SPEAKER- Yeah, I got some like earlier this year,
22:18SPEAKERsome feedback like, boy, you seem like you're putting
22:20SPEAKERan awful lot of thought into that build,
22:22SPEAKERbut it's like that Skylight build that I used
22:24SPEAKERfor seven years before this year, like I just bought,
22:27SPEAKERit was a Newegg bundle that I bought 'cause it was on sale.
22:30SPEAKERIt was just like, that's how much thought I put
22:32SPEAKERinto the previous computer I had because back then
22:34SPEAKERI didn't need to use that computer for much of anything
22:35SPEAKERthat was important.
22:36SPEAKERIt was just like, oh, there's a cheap bundle
22:38SPEAKERof a motherboard and RAM CPU.
22:40SPEAKERIt's like, sure, why not?
22:42SPEAKERIt really, really scales to your use case.
22:44SPEAKER- So on the utility front, I have a new one
22:46SPEAKERthat I've just started using the last couple of weeks
22:48SPEAKERthat I really, really like a lot.
22:49SPEAKER- I like utilities, go on.
22:51SPEAKER- It's files for Windows.
22:54SPEAKERIt's in the Microsoft store, it costs nine bucks.
22:56SPEAKERAnd it's a replacement for file manager, basically.
23:00SPEAKER- Really?
23:01SPEAKERFile explorer?
23:03SPEAKER- Or file explorer, yeah.
23:04SPEAKERSorry, file manager's on a different OS.
23:06SPEAKERBut it's really customizable, it has good previews
23:09SPEAKERin for a lot of the different file types that you'll use.
23:13SPEAKERAnd you can configure pretty much everything about it.
23:16SPEAKERIt also has a decent zip client built in,
23:18SPEAKERunlike Windows, Windows.
23:21SPEAKERBut so you don't have thumbnail problems
23:24SPEAKERand stuff like that, like you do in normal file explorer.
23:27SPEAKERAlso, it seems much faster and you can drag,
23:31SPEAKERyou can make tabs and you can do the thing
23:33SPEAKERwhere you drag a thing from the one tab to the other
23:36SPEAKERand you don't have to hold it until it clicks in.
23:39SPEAKERIt just works, which is nice.
23:42SPEAKER- I'm looking at screenshots of this right now.
23:46SPEAKERMaybe I should just pay the nine bucks.
23:47SPEAKERYou can't try this, right?
23:48SPEAKER- There's no way to try it.
23:50SPEAKERI'm gonna go and tell you when I first downloaded it,
23:52SPEAKERI fired it up and then it immediately crashed
23:54SPEAKERand I was like, well, I just pissed away $9.
23:56SPEAKERAnd then it's been perfect since then.
23:58SPEAKER- I have replaced the icon for file explorer on my desktop
24:02SPEAKERwith the icon for file and on my taskbar
24:06SPEAKERwith the icon for files.
24:07SPEAKERIt is now in my fourths win key plus four spot
24:10SPEAKERto open up a file browser.
24:11SPEAKER- I guess that's actually my win key also.
24:15SPEAKERWell, actually that's just file explorer.
24:17SPEAKER- Just file explorer.
24:18SPEAKER- That wouldn't work for a third party one,
24:19SPEAKERbut actually that goes to the question I was about to ask,
24:21SPEAKERwhich was like, how tightly does this integrate with Windows?
24:24SPEAKER'Cause you don't normally see people trying to replace
24:28SPEAKERfile explorer, like I wonder if third party applications,
24:31SPEAKERwhen they try to launch a path,
24:33SPEAKERwill those still launch in file explorer?
24:36SPEAKERLike there's no way to like associate a file path
24:39SPEAKERor a directory path with another app, right?
24:42SPEAKER- So like open dialogues and stuff like that
24:44SPEAKERstill use the traditional file explorer UI
24:47SPEAKERor whichever one they've hooked up to in their application.
24:51SPEAKERThe other, the things I do, like it works better.
24:57SPEAKERYou know how Microsoft has started putting OneDrive
24:59SPEAKERat the very top of the list in file explorer
25:01SPEAKERon the shortcuts on the left?
25:03SPEAKER- As a recent Windows 11 convert, I do.
25:06SPEAKER- Yeah, it's terrible.
25:09SPEAKERIt looks at all the things you have cloud drive apps
25:11SPEAKERinstalled for and puts them in their own little category.
25:15SPEAKERIt does pull over your shortcuts, I think,
25:16SPEAKERby default from file explorer.
25:19SPEAKERBut beyond that, the integration is just, it's the new,
25:23SPEAKERit's your tool for viewing files.
25:25SPEAKERI don't believe that there's a system level way
25:27SPEAKERfor it to take over things like the file browsers,
25:30SPEAKERinside apps and stuff like that.
25:32SPEAKER- Yeah, that makes sense.
25:33SPEAKERI guess I wouldn't expect that.
25:34SPEAKERSpeaking of OneDrive floating to the top
25:36SPEAKERin current file, what is this gallery business
25:39SPEAKERthat I also can't get rid of?
25:42SPEAKER- That I don't know about,
25:43SPEAKERbut I have a co-pilot preview on mine now
25:48SPEAKERthat came up the other day.
25:50SPEAKER- Are you in the insider ring?
25:51SPEAKER- No, I think it just pushed out to easy computers
25:54SPEAKERthe other day. - Interesting, okay.
25:56SPEAKER- I'm on 23H2 now.
25:58SPEAKER- I believe I am also on that now.
26:01SPEAKER- So you have co-pilot as well.
26:02SPEAKERI haven't clicked it yet.
26:04SPEAKERGallery, I think, is just there.
26:05SPEAKERHey, we have a new photos app
26:06SPEAKERthat's better than the old photos app, maybe.
26:08SPEAKER- Yeah.
26:10SPEAKER- Can we talk about charging ports
26:11SPEAKERon the front of your computer?
26:12SPEAKER- Yes, my new motherboard, I haven't tried it yet,
26:16SPEAKERbut I think that gigabyte board I was using
26:18SPEAKERhad like a 30 watt connection to the front USB-C.
26:20SPEAKER- And 30 watts for chumps, Brad.
26:22SPEAKER- This ASUS, I think, is a 65 watts now.
26:27SPEAKER- Mine, I think, is a 60 watt quick charge four,
26:29SPEAKERbut I didn't check that.
26:32SPEAKERI can plug the Steam Deck in.
26:33SPEAKERI can plug a switch in.
26:34SPEAKERIt charges both of them at full speed.
26:36SPEAKERThat's all I needed to know.
26:37SPEAKER- If I had thought ahead, I could try this live.
26:39SPEAKERI believe if that thing's 65 watts on this thing,
26:43SPEAKERI think I could run my MacBook Pro off of that port.
26:46SPEAKERI could run my MacBook off of this other computer,
26:48SPEAKERwhich is an interesting prospect.
26:50SPEAKER- Yeah, it's like the mothership docking into the,
26:55SPEAKERit's like your laptop is the little airplane
27:00SPEAKERdocking into the mothership dirigible
27:02SPEAKERin a Crimson Skies game.
27:03SPEAKER- Yes, you know, that reminds me of something
27:05SPEAKERthat I might be thankful for at some point in the future.
27:08SPEAKERI have not tried yet.
27:09SPEAKERI was talking to someone on the Nextlander discord recently,
27:12SPEAKERand I think this has come up on the tech pod server as well.
27:15SPEAKER- Crossing the streams.
27:16SPEAKER- Look, credit where due.
27:18SPEAKERSomebody was using an eGPU with a laptop successfully.
27:22SPEAKER- I've done that before.
27:23SPEAKER- Like, remember when that was sort of just like
27:24SPEAKERa pie in the sky idea when they first announced
27:27SPEAKERthe possibility of using Thunderbolt like 15 years ago?
27:29SPEAKER- I did that in 2016 'cause I bought a laptop
27:33SPEAKERthat could do that specifically for VR stuff.
27:35SPEAKER- It seems like it's becoming more of a thing now.
27:37SPEAKER- Yeah, it was underwhelming.
27:39SPEAKER- Was it? Okay.
27:40SPEAKERI mean, they did caution like,
27:41SPEAKER"Hey, don't necessarily expect to just buy a laptop
27:44SPEAKERand an external graphics card
27:45SPEAKERand have that be your only computer?"
27:48SPEAKER- Yeah, the USB ports have to be wired, right?
27:50SPEAKER- Yeah.
27:51SPEAKER- And also the problem I had was that the laptop
27:54SPEAKERwas still really insanely loud,
27:57SPEAKEReven with all the GPU stuff turned off in it.
27:59SPEAKERSo it was like, it wasn't like something I would,
28:02SPEAKERI used it for demos and that was pretty much it.
28:04SPEAKER- Yeah, that's fair.
28:05SPEAKERI mean, maybe it's still not quite there,
28:07SPEAKERbut I mean, it kind of goes back to the thing
28:08SPEAKERI was talking about earlier.
28:09SPEAKERThere are just more adapters and enclosures
28:11SPEAKERand options for using stuff than I have ever seen before.
28:14SPEAKERLike there are other PCI Express enclosures now,
28:18SPEAKERlike Elgato, I found an Elgato tutorial that they put up
28:22SPEAKERfor a specific PCI Express enclosure they bought to turn.
28:26SPEAKERDo you have the 4K60 Pro capture card?
28:29SPEAKER- No, I have the Avermedia.
28:31SPEAKER- Okay.
28:31SPEAKER- Yeah, they have an extra.
28:33SPEAKERSo that was one of the things I tried to do
28:34SPEAKERwith my old eGPU enclosure when I had a one slot system
28:38SPEAKERand it wouldn't work because the eGPU enclosure
28:41SPEAKERhas to recognize the device type.
28:42SPEAKER- Yes.
28:43SPEAKER- It has to recognize GPUs.
28:45SPEAKER- So this was like an official Elgato tutorial
28:47SPEAKERand even still they linked to the specific enclosure
28:50SPEAKERthey tried and they said,
28:51SPEAKER"Hey, this is the only one we've tested.
28:52SPEAKERWe can't say that others will work."
28:54SPEAKERBut it was a nice tiny little enclosure
28:57SPEAKERand it was basically a way to turn the 4K60 Pro,
28:59SPEAKERwhich is their internal capture card,
29:01SPEAKERinto a little external capture box,
29:03SPEAKERwhich I thought was very cool.
29:05SPEAKER- Yeah, that kind of stuff is neat.
29:07SPEAKERJust the fact that it works at all is lovely.
29:12SPEAKERCan we talk about open source software
29:15SPEAKERthat gives you ridiculous control
29:16SPEAKERover the stuff in your computer?
29:18SPEAKER- Yeah, it's always good.
29:19SPEAKER- I have been using both fan control and open RGB
29:23SPEAKERto control the fan speeds and pump speed
29:26SPEAKERon the cooling in my computer since I built this last year.
29:29SPEAKERAnd then open RGB to control the lighting
29:32SPEAKERand it's a lovely combo.
29:37SPEAKERI have it set so that when the computer goes to sleep,
29:39SPEAKERit turns off open RGB and that turns everything off.
29:42SPEAKERAnd when it wakes up, it relaunches open RGB
29:44SPEAKERand that starts everything back up again.
29:46SPEAKERFan control gives you really, really precise control
29:51SPEAKERover fan curves that can even interact with each other
29:56SPEAKERin ways that are interesting.
29:57SPEAKERSo, for example, when my VRMs around the CPU,
30:02SPEAKERvoltage regulators around the CPU
30:04SPEAKERget to a certain temperature,
30:05SPEAKEReven if the CPU fan isn't supposed to be spinning,
30:08SPEAKERthe fans aren't supposed to be spinning
30:10SPEAKERbecause of the temperature that they normally work off of.
30:14SPEAKERIt can supplant that setting and crank up the fan
30:19SPEAKERso it cools off the VRMs or the memory or whatever.
30:21SPEAKERIt's a incredibly powerful piece of software.
30:24SPEAKER- That's very cool.
30:26SPEAKER- And then there's another thing called Artemis
30:29SPEAKERthat integrates with open RGB and lets you do,
30:33SPEAKERit does all the game integration stuff.
30:36SPEAKERSo if you want your Overwatch character colors
30:41SPEAKERto show up when you switch from D.Va
30:42SPEAKERto the hamster guy on your keyboard
30:45SPEAKERand also all the lights in your computer, you can do that.
30:48SPEAKER- The hamster guy.
30:49SPEAKER- What's that, do you remember his name?
30:50SPEAKER- Doesn't he deserve a little more respect.
30:52SPEAKER- What's his name, Brad?
30:53SPEAKER- I don't know.
30:54SPEAKER- Oh, see.
30:55SPEAKER- I'm not the one who called him the hamster guy.
30:57SPEAKER- Look, he's the hamster guy.
31:00SPEAKER- Have some respect for the hamster guy, please.
31:03SPEAKER- Look, his name is Hamtaro, I believe.
31:05SPEAKER- Okay, there you go.
31:06SPEAKER- That's not right.
31:07SPEAKER- Wait, isn't that an anime character?
31:09SPEAKER- That's it, yeah, I've animated us.
31:11SPEAKER- We have to move on.
31:12SPEAKERCan open RPG RGB do anything for the RGB
31:15SPEAKERwhen the machine is off?
31:17SPEAKERBecause it turns out that this motherboard
31:19SPEAKERhas a screen on it that I have disabled
31:23SPEAKERwhen the computer is on
31:24SPEAKERbecause I don't have a window in my PC,
31:26SPEAKERbut that screen comes back on when the machine is off.
31:29SPEAKER- So your motherboard BIOS has a stealth setting
31:33SPEAKERfor RGB inside it.
31:35SPEAKERAnd if you put it in the stealth mode,
31:36SPEAKERwhen your computer goes to sleep,
31:38SPEAKERit turns off all the lights on the motherboard,
31:40SPEAKERincluding that screen, probably.
31:41SPEAKER- When it's asleep or when it's off, off?
31:43SPEAKER'Cause I'm talking about to completely shut down.
31:45SPEAKER- I believe it works for both of those.
31:46SPEAKER- Okay, okay.
31:47SPEAKER- This is also, I can't believe what is happening
31:51SPEAKERto computer part branding.
31:53SPEAKERLet me see if I got this straight.
31:54SPEAKERI believe this is an ASUS board.
31:55SPEAKERIt is an ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero.
31:59SPEAKER- Is that the Evangelion board?
32:02SPEAKER- No.
32:02SPEAKER- Wait, do they have one?
32:03SPEAKER- They have one.
32:04SPEAKERThey had to recall it 'cause it had a typo.
32:06SPEAKER- Oh no.
32:07SPEAKER- Yeah, whoops.
32:08SPEAKER- Like on the board?
32:09SPEAKERLike printed on the board?
32:09SPEAKER- That's my, printed on the board.
32:10SPEAKERThat's my understanding, yes.
32:11SPEAKER- Can't have that.
32:12SPEAKERLook, some brand sanctity, please.
32:14SPEAKERAnyway, this thing, it's the side of the IO shield,
32:17SPEAKERyou know, where all the ports are,
32:18SPEAKERthe big block that has all the USB ports and stuff in it.
32:22SPEAKER- Oh yeah, yeah.
32:23SPEAKER- The side of that block that faces out is a screen.
32:26SPEAKER- That's amazing.
32:27SPEAKER- You can customize what is displayed on that screen.
32:30SPEAKER- So good.
32:31SPEAKER- And I don't, I mean, whatever,
32:32SPEAKERI'm sure it's using next to zero power,
32:34SPEAKERbut having it run all the time
32:35SPEAKERwhen the machine's off seems excessive.
32:37SPEAKER- I just don't want lights coming on my computer.
32:39SPEAKERI want to look at the computer and see the lights on
32:41SPEAKERwhen it's on and the lights off when it's off.
32:42SPEAKER- And I think sometimes I feel like I'm the last person
32:44SPEAKERon earth who doesn't have a window on their PC.
32:46SPEAKER- You should get a window and windows are cool, man.
32:48SPEAKERI have windows on two or three sides of my PC.
32:50SPEAKER- I don't know, I don't know why my particular fetish
32:53SPEAKERis not seeing technology, but I just, there's something,
32:56SPEAKERthere's something, there's nothing more magical to me
32:58SPEAKERthan using technology I cannot see.
33:01SPEAKER- Okay, I can respect that, but also--
33:04SPEAKER- Like if the computer could physically not be in this room,
33:06SPEAKERI would absolutely do that.
33:08SPEAKER- My computer looks like the Northern Lights
33:09SPEAKERwhen the lights are on.
33:10SPEAKER- Well, you know, I guess there's some appeal there.
33:12SPEAKER- Yeah, can we talk about low latency wireless headsets
33:18SPEAKERwith analog ends? - Sure, sure.
33:20SPEAKER- 'Cause I did a lot of research,
33:21SPEAKERprobably just after we did this episode last year,
33:25SPEAKERI wanted wireless headset because I spent a lot of time
33:27SPEAKERwith headphones on and also I have a kid and stuff to do
33:30SPEAKERand I get up and walk into the kitchen
33:31SPEAKERand I yanked the cables out of my headphone amp
33:36SPEAKERmany, many times over the years.
33:39SPEAKERSo I wanted a wireless one, but I also like to have
33:41SPEAKERvoice monitor on, so I need really low latency
33:43SPEAKERso I don't have weird reverb between what I'm hearing
33:45SPEAKERthrough my bone conduction in my skull
33:47SPEAKERand what comes back on the headphones.
33:50SPEAKERTurns out there's some DJ headphones that are wireless
33:55SPEAKERthat do that, that cost a whole lot of money,
33:56SPEAKERand then SteelSeries makes the Arctis Pro Wireless,
33:59SPEAKERwhich is also a really expensive headset,
34:01SPEAKERbut is way less expensive than the DJ headsets.
34:04SPEAKERIt was like, I got it for like $299, I think.
34:07SPEAKER- Sounds too bad.
34:09SPEAKER- It's a lot for a gaming headset is the way,
34:11SPEAKERlike if you're talking about studio monitors,
34:13SPEAKERlike good headphones, I'm like, it's not too bad, but.
34:15SPEAKER- Well, I figure the wireless and especially the low latency
34:18SPEAKERadds a good, I don't know how much,
34:22SPEAKERthird of that or something.
34:24SPEAKER- It has its own, it has a box that sits on the desk
34:26SPEAKERwith a USB cable. - Right, yes.
34:28SPEAKER- So it's USB powered, I just plug it into one
34:30SPEAKERof those Anker power strips, actually,
34:32SPEAKERand then run the line out from my headphone amp into that.
34:38SPEAKERAnd it works remarkably well.
34:40SPEAKERIt has two batteries, so there's one battery
34:42SPEAKERthat stays in the headset all the time,
34:44SPEAKERthere's a spare that's charging.
34:46SPEAKERYou can swap it out as long as you can do that
34:47SPEAKERin less than eight seconds, then it drops for a second
34:49SPEAKERand then immediately reconnects after the power button.
34:52SPEAKERWhen I have used the microphone with it,
34:54SPEAKERit's a pretty good microphone for a gaming headset,
34:56SPEAKERwhich I would expect for a $300 headset.
35:00SPEAKERBut yeah, generally quite good.
35:03SPEAKERIf I didn't have the desire to hear my own voice
35:05SPEAKERback in my years for monitoring purposes,
35:07SPEAKERI probably would have bought something much cheaper.
35:11SPEAKER- Yeah.
35:13SPEAKER- But here we are.
35:15SPEAKER- This is gonna be another one of those things
35:16SPEAKERthat people who don't record on themselves for a living
35:19SPEAKERdon't care about, but I have basically trained myself
35:22SPEAKERto not have a monitor anymore due to some complexities
35:26SPEAKERin my wiring setup and like just getting sound
35:29SPEAKERout of my audio interface to get my voice back
35:31SPEAKERinto the mix that I'm doing currently
35:33SPEAKERis just too much of a pain in the ass.
35:35SPEAKERAnd these headphones, these A40s are just kind of open
35:38SPEAKERenough in the ear cups that I can at least
35:40SPEAKERbasically hear myself through the bones in my ears.
35:43SPEAKER- So the problem I have is that if I don't have
35:45SPEAKERa pretty good monitor, then I just get louder
35:47SPEAKERand louder and louder until I can't hear myself
35:49SPEAKERuntil I blow out my voice basically, so.
35:52SPEAKER- Interesting. - Yeah.
35:54SPEAKER- I mean, to be fair, or to be clear rather,
35:56SPEAKERif you record a podcast or anything else,
35:58SPEAKERyou should be able to hear yourself,
35:59SPEAKERbut I'm working around it.
36:02SPEAKER- Well, I also play games, especially when I was playing
36:05SPEAKERPUBG and sound was such an important part of that game.
36:08SPEAKERI probably was keeping the game volume too loud.
36:11SPEAKERSo I had to boost the voice in the headset
36:16SPEAKERto accommodate that.
36:17SPEAKER- Yeah, it's because being a wireless headphones,
36:18SPEAKERI can't believe I'm saying this.
36:21SPEAKERI'm at least moderately thankful for Bluetooth audio.
36:24SPEAKERI've had like a decent amount of okay experiences
36:26SPEAKERwith Bluetooth audio this year.
36:28SPEAKER- What Bluetooth audio devices are you using?
36:30SPEAKER- I've got all kinds of stuff now.
36:32SPEAKERAnd I'm trying to remember, I can't actually remember
36:34SPEAKERthe brand of a couple of them
36:35SPEAKER'cause they were sent to me for review.
36:37SPEAKER- Oh.
36:40SPEAKER- The Odyssey Mobius, I think, is the kind of over-ear
36:42SPEAKERheadphone headset I've got.
36:43SPEAKERThat's Bluetooth that I occasionally use
36:45SPEAKERin the office here.
36:47SPEAKER- Like with the PlayStation or something, or?
36:48SPEAKER- Most with the PC, just if I need to be listening
36:51SPEAKERto something and moving around.
36:52SPEAKER- Gotcha.
36:53SPEAKER- I mean, I've got a couple of like lower costs,
36:57SPEAKERwireless earbuds for exercise and stuff like that.
36:59SPEAKERLike they all just kind of work.
37:01SPEAKERLike, God, I think Anker puts their brand on these.
37:07SPEAKERThey are Soundcores.
37:09SPEAKER- Yeah, they're the follow-up to the Liberties, I think.
37:13SPEAKER- Yes, those were pretty good.
37:14SPEAKERI can't remember which model I got.
37:15SPEAKERThey were like less than 30 bucks though.
37:17SPEAKERAnd they're like shockingly good quality
37:19SPEAKERand like the nice little charging case,
37:20SPEAKERlike just cheap, good Bluetooth headphones
37:24SPEAKERare everywhere now.
37:24SPEAKERAnd they are quite acceptable in performance.
37:28SPEAKER- I have on my list the AirPod Pro 2s,
37:33SPEAKERwhich are not cheap, but are very good.
37:37SPEAKERFor people who live in the Apple ecosystem,
37:41SPEAKERlike the ability to switch between devices.
37:43SPEAKERLike when I pick up my iPad after I've been listening
37:46SPEAKERto something on my phone or on the TV or whatever,
37:48SPEAKERand it just switches to the iPad automatically.
37:52SPEAKERAnd then I lay down in bed, I put something on the TV,
37:54SPEAKERand I can listen to the TV or in the living room
37:57SPEAKERwithout bothering everybody else in the room.
37:59SPEAKERIt's really, really nice.
38:00SPEAKERAnd the new adaptive transparency mode thing
38:03SPEAKERthat they rolled out.
38:06SPEAKERSo before you had transparency mode,
38:08SPEAKERwhich let you hear what was going on in the world around you
38:10SPEAKERwithout any of the, it was freaky because it didn't,
38:14SPEAKERnormally when you have it in your monitors,
38:15SPEAKERthe world sounds muted even if you have a transparency mode.
38:18SPEAKERAnd this, it just sounded like
38:19SPEAKERthere was no filtering or anything.
38:21SPEAKERIt just sounded like you hear through your ears.
38:23SPEAKERAnd then the noise canceling,
38:24SPEAKERwhich everybody knows what noise canceling is.
38:27SPEAKERThis does a little bit of both.
38:28SPEAKERSo you get background noise,
38:29SPEAKERbut they filter out the things that annoy you,
38:31SPEAKERlike fan noise and cooking noises and stuff like that.
38:36SPEAKERBut you can hear voices and you can hear cars.
38:39SPEAKERSo if you're out walking around, you're out jogging,
38:41SPEAKERyou're taking the dog for a walk or something,
38:42SPEAKERyou can have that on and not worry about somebody
38:45SPEAKERsneaking up behind you and stabbing you
38:46SPEAKERor getting hit by a car when you cross the street
38:48SPEAKER'cause you don't hear it coming.
38:50SPEAKERIt's pretty good.
38:51SPEAKERAnd then they automatically, when you start talking,
38:55SPEAKERthey mute and pause whatever you're listening to
38:59SPEAKERif you choose to turn that on.
39:00SPEAKERSo that if you're listening to a podcast
39:02SPEAKERand then your partner comes in and starts talking to you,
39:04SPEAKERyou can respond and not have to fiddle with your phone
39:08SPEAKERbefore you talk to them.
39:09SPEAKER- It's the relationship saver.
39:10SPEAKER- It's, I'm gonna tell you,
39:12SPEAKERI turned it on on my wife's phone without telling her
39:15SPEAKERand it's fabulous 'cause it means that when she's listening
39:17SPEAKERto something, I can have a conversation without her
39:20SPEAKERbeing distracted and not hearing me.
39:21SPEAKER- Yes, we also have that experience around here.
39:24SPEAKERIt's a thing.
39:25SPEAKER- Yeah.
39:26SPEAKER- If at least one person in the relationship
39:29SPEAKERlikes to wear earbuds around the house to do stuff.
39:32SPEAKER- Yep.
39:33SPEAKER- It can hamper communication, let's say.
39:35SPEAKER- I love when I'm doing cleaning or cooking or something,
39:38SPEAKERI love putting on a podcast and just listening, oh.
39:41SPEAKER- I just got a gesture from the door.
39:44SPEAKER- Is it rude or loving?
39:45SPEAKEROkay, good.
39:47SPEAKER- It was more defiant, let's say.
39:49SPEAKER- Yeah.
39:49SPEAKER- I think it's the work we'd use.
39:52SPEAKER- I'm never gonna complain about somebody listening
39:54SPEAKERto a podcast while they do something else.
39:56SPEAKER- Absolutely not.
39:59SPEAKERSince we're talking about all this Bluetooth audio stuff,
40:01SPEAKERI swear one day we will do our Bluetooth trilogy.
40:05SPEAKER- Oh, the Bluetooth triptych?
40:06SPEAKER- Of episodes, yes, our magnum opus.
40:09SPEAKER- I'm gonna go and tell you,
40:10SPEAKERreading and learning about Bluetooth at night
40:12SPEAKERas I'm getting ready to go to bed
40:14SPEAKERhas turned out to be the best sleep aid I've ever had
40:17SPEAKER'cause I've read most of the Bluetooth 1 spec.
40:20SPEAKER- Oh my God, I never thought about that.
40:22SPEAKERMaybe I should just get some spec sheets on my iPad
40:25SPEAKERand read, or RFCs.
40:27SPEAKERMaybe I should just go download a bunch of RFCs
40:29SPEAKERand try to read those as I fall asleep.
40:33SPEAKER- If you last more than 15 minutes, you're doing great.
40:35SPEAKERThat's my, I'm of new appreciation for the people
40:39SPEAKERwho do that stuff for a living at the big tech companies.
40:43SPEAKER- You know what?
40:43SPEAKERI didn't plan to come in here and talk about this.
40:45SPEAKERThe Kindle that I bought last year,
40:47SPEAKERI extremely like, part of this is a lifestyle thing.
40:50SPEAKERLike I bought it and proceeded to kind of not use it
40:52SPEAKERas I have the last two Kindles I've had.
40:54SPEAKERSomething changed like three, four months ago
40:56SPEAKERwhere I, it was like a sleep hygiene thing, honestly.
40:59SPEAKERLike I've had a lot of sleep problems last few years.
41:01SPEAKERAnd one of the things I was trying to alleviate that
41:03SPEAKERwas not bringing the iPad to bed anymore.
41:07SPEAKERAnd so I started reading books on the Kindle
41:09SPEAKERbefore bed instead.
41:10SPEAKERAnd it has, I can't say there's a direct causation there,
41:14SPEAKERbut it sure seems to have helped.
41:16SPEAKERAnyway.
41:17SPEAKER- The reflective screen is better
41:18SPEAKERthan the transmissive screen.
41:19SPEAKERScience, you heard it here first.
41:20SPEAKER- Yeah, who would have thought?
41:22SPEAKERThe thing's got dark mode in it.
41:23SPEAKERI can't, I think it's just the newest Paperwhite.
41:25SPEAKERThere's nothing fancy about it.
41:26SPEAKERIt's like the baseline $100 model.
41:28SPEAKER- Yeah.
41:29SPEAKER- The dark mode is very nice to have at night,
41:32SPEAKERespecially if you have a partner
41:33SPEAKERwho tries to go to sleep earlier than you.
41:35SPEAKERLike that also helps not just for your kind of, you know,
41:39SPEAKERnot absorbing too much light as you're reading,
41:40SPEAKERbut also for somebody else who's trying to sleep there.
41:42SPEAKER- Not eye blasting your bed mates is always appreciated.
41:46SPEAKER- Yeah, like it's the third Kindle I've had.
41:48SPEAKERAnd it's the first one I've had where I'm like,
41:50SPEAKERokay, this feels like it's where it needs to be.
41:52SPEAKERLike if I never got another Kindle for the rest of my life,
41:54SPEAKERI'd probably be fine with it.
41:56SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm in the same boat.
41:57SPEAKERI got the same one.
41:58SPEAKERI got it at the same time we got yours
41:59SPEAKERand it's been quite good.
42:02SPEAKER- Like the back lights used to be a mess.
42:04SPEAKERLike the, all the ones I had before, like real,
42:06SPEAKERI mean, not that you can still read it,
42:07SPEAKERbut it just looks kind of ugly, like kind of uneven.
42:10SPEAKER- So they fixed that a few years ago,
42:13SPEAKERbut the problem I always had was that
42:15SPEAKERthey couldn't quite get dim enough.
42:16SPEAKERLike the gradation and brightnesses
42:19SPEAKERat the very low end wasn't, wasn't,
42:21SPEAKERlike the jump from not on enough to read
42:24SPEAKERto on to read was too much.
42:26SPEAKER- Yes.
42:27SPEAKER- And you couldn't get to like the,
42:28SPEAKERI want to ride the line of what my eyes are able
42:30SPEAKERto make out at late at night.
42:31SPEAKER- Yeah, for sure.
42:32SPEAKERAnd actually, ironically, that's a problem I have
42:34SPEAKERwith the iPad at night, but the Kindle gets very dark
42:37SPEAKERand the dark mode also helps.
42:39SPEAKERIt's just, it's just, it's just nice.
42:42SPEAKERLast thing I was gonna say about headphones real quick,
42:44SPEAKERwith all this talk of wireless audio in the living room,
42:48SPEAKERI'm now going the exact opposite direction.
42:50SPEAKER- But do you have a big chonky quarter inch cable
42:52SPEAKERinto your receiver?
42:53SPEAKER- I just ordered a big chonky quarter inch cable
42:55SPEAKERto put in my receiver.
42:57SPEAKER- For which headphones?
42:58SPEAKER- I use A40s in there too.
43:00SPEAKERI have two pairs of them.
43:03SPEAKERI'm just tired of fighting with wireless audio
43:05SPEAKERin the living room.
43:06SPEAKER- Wish you'd said something.
43:07SPEAKERI think I have one of those just sitting here aging.
43:09SPEAKER- The cable?
43:10SPEAKER- Yeah.
43:11SPEAKER- I actually, so I'm replacing one
43:12SPEAKERthat is a Radio Shack brand cable
43:14SPEAKERthat I've had since college.
43:15SPEAKER- Okay, well that I can't help with.
43:17SPEAKER- It still works actually.
43:18SPEAKERIt's the connection is a little,
43:20SPEAKERit's the connection is just finicky enough.
43:21SPEAKERYou have to jiggle the connector a little too much.
43:23SPEAKER- Is it like a quarter inch to three eighths
43:25SPEAKERor one eighth or whatever it is?
43:26SPEAKER- It is female to male, three and a half millimeter
43:30SPEAKERon both ends.
43:31SPEAKERSo I was using an adapter, but I just, I have whatever.
43:33SPEAKERI just bought a replacement.
43:34SPEAKER- Yeah, that's cool.
43:36SPEAKER- But well, it's nice for the Switch
43:39SPEAKER'cause I think there are still no really good options
43:41SPEAKERfor wireless Switch audio, right?
43:43SPEAKER- You can do wireless Bluetooth on the Switch now,
43:44SPEAKERbut it's iffy is my understanding.
43:46SPEAKERI've never actually tried it.
43:47SPEAKER- I think the latency is still an issue
43:49SPEAKERfrom what I understand.
43:50SPEAKER- I don't think that,
43:51SPEAKERI think that the reason they didn't flip that on at first
43:53SPEAKERis because they didn't have the right codecs
43:55SPEAKERon the Bluetooth codec that they used, and yeah.
43:58SPEAKER- You know, Series X and PS5,
44:00SPEAKERyou can just plug headphones straight into the controller.
44:01SPEAKERI have had, do you ever use the wireless audio
44:04SPEAKERin the Xbox controller?
44:05SPEAKERBecause I have had the worst luck with it
44:07SPEAKERsince they introduced that into the controllers.
44:09SPEAKER- I have used it.
44:10SPEAKERI used it more with the PS4 generation
44:13SPEAKERthan I have with the PS5.
44:14SPEAKER- PS4 and PS5 controller audio,
44:16SPEAKERheadphone audio work beautifully for me.
44:18SPEAKERI've never had any problems,
44:19SPEAKERbut the Xbox audio, since they put a headphone jack
44:22SPEAKERinto Xbox One controllers, however, like eight years ago.
44:24SPEAKER- Instead of that weird dongle that they used to have?
44:26SPEAKER- Yeah, I get constant dropouts, constant crackling.
44:30SPEAKERI have no idea what it is in that room.
44:32SPEAKER- I used it on the Xbox,
44:34SPEAKERbut probably only on the Wi-Fi Direct controllers
44:36SPEAKERand not on the Bluetooth controllers would be my guess.
44:39SPEAKER- Interesting.
44:40SPEAKER- 'Cause remember the first controllers that they released
44:42SPEAKERwere Wi-Fi Direct, and then when they rolled out
44:44SPEAKERthe ones with the plus pad,
44:46SPEAKERI think that was when it became Bluetooth
44:47SPEAKERwhen the Xbox One S came out.
44:49SPEAKER- Yeah, that sounds right.
44:51SPEAKER- But I only ever,
44:52SPEAKERI think I only have one of the Bluetooth controllers.
44:54SPEAKERIt's not an Xbox series controller.
44:57SPEAKER- We still have the Roku hooked up there.
44:58SPEAKERAnd the only reason I have that
44:59SPEAKERis 'cause the Roku remote has a headphone jack in it,
45:01SPEAKERbut I've been getting the same dropouts with that lately.
45:03SPEAKERSo I don't know if there's just some kind of
45:04SPEAKERinsanely gnarly interference in this apartment building.
45:07SPEAKER- So this is where I use the AirPod Pro headphones
45:11SPEAKERto just connect to the Apple TV and everything works.
45:14SPEAKER- Sure, yeah.
45:18SPEAKER- Do you wanna talk about, can we talk about coffee?
45:20SPEAKEROr do you wanna talk about Steam Deck?
45:21SPEAKER- I'll choose your own adventure here, Brad.
45:22SPEAKER- Oh, I don't know, you'd select.
45:25SPEAKERAh, Steam Deck.
45:27SPEAKER- Okay, Steam Deck OLED issues aside,
45:30SPEAKERthat are shipping issues aside,
45:33SPEAKERthe Steam Deck is something I use not quite every day,
45:36SPEAKERbut multiple times a week.
45:38SPEAKERAnd I can sit and play PC games in the living room
45:41SPEAKERwhile we're doing,
45:43SPEAKERwhether it's hanging out and watching something
45:45SPEAKERor just everybody sitting in the living room
45:47SPEAKERdoing their own thing,
45:48SPEAKERbut we're doing it in the same room at least.
45:50SPEAKERIt's been really nice.
45:52SPEAKERAnd I am kind of in awe of that thing just in general.
45:56SPEAKER- Like there is such a handheld craze going on
45:59SPEAKERfor the last, pretty much since the Switch launched,
46:01SPEAKERI guess the Switch is what ushered it in.
46:03SPEAKERAnd now there's 10 bajillion x86 handhelds,
46:06SPEAKERnot just the Steam Deck, but the Ioneo and the ROG Ally.
46:10SPEAKERAnd like there's other stuff I'm not even thinking of,
46:11SPEAKERlike it just, the world loves handhelds.
46:14SPEAKERI always have to remind myself that screen contention
46:18SPEAKERis one reason for that.
46:20SPEAKERThat if you live in a house with like one big TV
46:23SPEAKERand multiple people who want to use it for different things.
46:25SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, that's why I use it
46:28SPEAKERis 'cause I can play games in the living room
46:29SPEAKERwithout having to say,
46:30SPEAKERno, you can't watch something on TV to my daughter or wife.
46:32SPEAKER- Like my girlfriend just watches so little TV.
46:34SPEAKERShe's just not that interested in TV
46:37SPEAKERor if it's a movie, we're generally watching it together.
46:39SPEAKERSo I just never even have to think about
46:41SPEAKERthe TV being in use.
46:42SPEAKER- Well, but it's also like,
46:45SPEAKERI can play a game on the Steam Deck,
46:46SPEAKEReven if it's streamed from the PC or something
46:48SPEAKERthat I would never want my daughter to see
46:51SPEAKERon the big screen.
46:52SPEAKER- Sure, okay, let's think about that, yeah.
46:54SPEAKER- Yeah, like there's a fairly large number of PC games
46:57SPEAKERthat I play on the reg
46:58SPEAKERthat I wouldn't want a 10 year old to see.
47:01SPEAKERAnd that'll stop being as much of an issue
47:02SPEAKERin the next few years.
47:04SPEAKERBut for now, it's a primary consideration, so.
47:07SPEAKER- Fair, fair.
47:08SPEAKER- Quite like it.
47:09SPEAKERAnd like the other side of it is that I'm using it for,
47:13SPEAKERlike I played most of "A Link to the Past" on it
47:16SPEAKERlast year, right?
47:17SPEAKERIt's like I've set up the MU Deck stuff
47:20SPEAKERand played a bunch of old games and they run wonderfully.
47:23SPEAKERAnd I find myself, if it's a big AAA game,
47:27SPEAKERI often stream it from the PC in the living room
47:29SPEAKERin the other room.
47:32SPEAKERBut like a lot of indie stuff like "Dave the Diver"
47:34SPEAKERand "Dredge" and a bunch of stuff that I played this year,
47:37SPEAKERI just played "Native" on the deck and it runs great.
47:39SPEAKERThe battery lasts a long time and it's quite good.
47:41SPEAKER- You played most of "A Link to the Past"?
47:44SPEAKER- I, Brad, that sixth dungeon I'm bad at.
47:48SPEAKER- Is that the ice dungeon?
47:49SPEAKER- The ice dungeon, the boss at the end
47:51SPEAKERis just an absolute bastard.
47:52SPEAKERI've only beaten it like three times in my life.
47:54SPEAKER- I'm not sure that I have played "A Link to the Past"
47:56SPEAKERstart to finish more than once.
47:57SPEAKERI may have, no, that's, I was,
47:59SPEAKERI did replay games back then, I guess.
48:01SPEAKERI probably played it at least a couple of times through,
48:03SPEAKERbut I have not beaten that game since the '90s
48:05SPEAKERand I still knew that it was the ice dungeon.
48:07SPEAKER- Yeah, the ice dungeon.
48:08SPEAKERWhen it came out on the GBA, I couldn't beat it on the GBA
48:11SPEAKER'cause my hands were too big for the GBA SP.
48:16SPEAKERYeah, that one's a real, real hard one.
48:18SPEAKERAnd the D-pad on the Steam Deck
48:21SPEAKERis not maybe the best for that kind of game.
48:25SPEAKERIt's okay.
48:25SPEAKER- Room for improvement.
48:26SPEAKER- Yeah.
48:30SPEAKER- Coffee, you were going to say briefly.
48:31SPEAKER- You were gonna do coffee?
48:32SPEAKERYou wanna talk about the next level Pulsar?
48:33SPEAKERWe talked about this a couple of weeks ago a little bit,
48:35SPEAKERbut it is zero bypass brewing.
48:37SPEAKERI am officially a convert after using this thing for--
48:40SPEAKER- Cool.
48:41SPEAKER- Let's see, I got 100 filters and I have about 35 left,
48:44SPEAKERso figure 70 days.
48:49SPEAKERI am, with the help of some folks from the Discord
48:55SPEAKERand reading Jonathan Gogné and Scott Rao
48:59SPEAKERand the Next Level blog about how to do it,
49:03SPEAKERI've had some really incredible cups of coffee.
49:05SPEAKERI'm still not as consistent as I was with a pour over,
49:09SPEAKERbut I'm getting there, and it's a truly,
49:14SPEAKERthe idea is, the reason it's called a zero bypass
49:17SPEAKERis because it's designed so that there's no way
49:20SPEAKERfor the water to bypass the coffee
49:22SPEAKERas it passes through the filter
49:23SPEAKERand goes into the cup underneath.
49:26SPEAKERAnd the neat thing about the Pulsar
49:29SPEAKERis that it has a valve that lets you open and close,
49:32SPEAKERso you're not just, the flow speed of the coffee
49:35SPEAKERis not entirely dependent on the grind size
49:37SPEAKERand the filter that you choose to use.
49:39SPEAKERYou also have some manual control over that,
49:41SPEAKERwhich is novel.
49:42SPEAKER- That's cool.
49:43SPEAKER- That's really good.
49:44SPEAKERThey're more widely available.
49:45SPEAKERIt seems like they're dropping new batches.
49:47SPEAKERSomebody posted in the Discord
49:48SPEAKERthat they were able to get one.
49:50SPEAKERYou just kind of keep an eye on the site and--
49:52SPEAKER- Oh, this is a limited stock situation.
49:55SPEAKER- I think they're making them as fast as they,
49:56SPEAKERselling them as fast as they can make them right now.
49:58SPEAKERSo it's like every week or two, they drop a new batch
50:01SPEAKERand they are lasting longer each time, so.
50:06SPEAKER- Real quick, speaking of coffee, I haven't done it yet,
50:08SPEAKERbut I am going to order a nut milk bag.
50:11SPEAKER- Oh.
50:12SPEAKER- At some point.
50:13SPEAKER- Very good.
50:14SPEAKER- To test out the filtration.
50:15SPEAKER- Getting a nylon one, I guess.
50:16SPEAKER- Properties, yeah, I'll get the nylon one.
50:18SPEAKER- Yeah, that seems good.
50:19SPEAKER- Yeah.
50:20SPEAKER- The nut milk bag material is what my Hario filter uses, so.
50:24SPEAKER- Okay, oh, you have one.
50:26SPEAKER- I have a Hario cold brew maker
50:28SPEAKERthat uses that same kind of nylon
50:30SPEAKERthat's in a nut milk bag.
50:31SPEAKER- Type of material.
50:32SPEAKEROkay. - Yeah.
50:33SPEAKER- I'm excited.
50:35SPEAKER- What else you got, anything else?
50:36SPEAKER- I can't believe I wrote down YouTube, yes, really here.
50:40SPEAKER- Wow.
50:41SPEAKER- Like, I don't know if, I don't know if YouTube-
50:42SPEAKER- How do you feel about the letter Q, Brad?
50:44SPEAKER- Mm, looks, okay, it's a platform with some downsides.
50:48SPEAKER- What's your favorite hydration beverage
50:53SPEAKERbrought to you by, you know,
50:56SPEAKERyou probably don't know about Prime
50:57SPEAKERbecause you don't have kids.
50:58SPEAKER- No.
50:59SPEAKER- Prime is a Gatorade style hydration beverage
51:02SPEAKERthat is brought to you by all of your favorite YouTubers,
51:06SPEAKERincluding one of the Paul brothers,
51:09SPEAKERand yeah, it's a Mr. Beast,
51:12SPEAKERand there's a whole bunch of kind of awful
51:14SPEAKERto just generally annoying people on that list.
51:17SPEAKER- I'm gonna assume it's the bad Paul.
51:19SPEAKER- I think they're both bad Pauls.
51:21SPEAKER- Yeah, I think one is way worse.
51:23SPEAKER- Yeah, it's not Jake, it's the other one.
51:25SPEAKERI don't even remember his name.
51:26SPEAKER- I think Logan is the WWE, current WWE champion.
51:30SPEAKER- Yeah, I think that's the one that did the beverage.
51:32SPEAKER- Oh, I think he's less bad, I could be wrong.
51:34SPEAKER- I saw Mark Rober doing some Prime stuff the other day.
51:37SPEAKERI was a little bummed about that,
51:38SPEAKERbut Mark Rober is still okay in my book.
51:40SPEAKER- Yeah, well, okay, look, YouTube has got its problems.
51:42SPEAKER- Yeah. - For sure.
51:44SPEAKERI feel like either I'm just using more of it
51:47SPEAKERor it got better at some point though.
51:48SPEAKERI just feel like there is such a range of stuff on there now.
51:52SPEAKER- Even when it was terrible, there was still an incredible,
51:54SPEAKERlike, if you wanna find out how to do something
51:56SPEAKERthat somebody has to show you,
51:57SPEAKERthere's probably a video of it.
51:59SPEAKER- Yeah, yes, absolutely.
52:00SPEAKERI like tutorial purposes for like historical purposes.
52:03SPEAKERI mean, in multiple ways, like I think we talked about
52:06SPEAKERlike finding old episodes of old broadcasts of Nightline
52:09SPEAKERand stuff like that on there from like world historical
52:12SPEAKERevents, but also like, you know, the,
52:16SPEAKERand I think you have to be careful here,
52:17SPEAKERbut the little cottage industry of like people
52:19SPEAKERmaking their own documentaries is like really thriving,
52:22SPEAKERbut where you have to be careful is like,
52:24SPEAKERmake sure the information sources are good and, you know.
52:28SPEAKER- Look, man, I have a lot of questions about chemtrails,
52:31SPEAKERI think is the only thing to know.
52:33SPEAKER- Like just because it's cut together and narrated
52:35SPEAKERprofessionally doesn't necessarily mean it's authoritative,
52:38SPEAKERbut like, for example, the history of Next Computer
52:41SPEAKERthat I found, I feel fairly confident
52:43SPEAKERis like reasonably sound.
52:45SPEAKER- I think that seems like an okay category.
52:46SPEAKERI love-
52:48SPEAKER- And that would never get made by like a production company
52:50SPEAKERwith funding, you know what I mean?
52:51SPEAKERLike somebody, like a YouTuber made that
52:53SPEAKERand did the research and like,
52:54SPEAKERit was like reasonably high quality and like,
52:56SPEAKERI learned a lot of fascinating stuff about Next Computer
52:58SPEAKERthat I love to hear.
52:59SPEAKERLike there's just so much cool stuff like that.
53:01SPEAKER- It's like the stuff that Danny does, right?
53:03SPEAKER- Yes, yes.
53:04SPEAKER- Like the game documentaries and music documentaries,
53:07SPEAKERand there's a bunch of cool stuff surrounding the arts.
53:09SPEAKERI also, like as a homeowner who likes to figure out
53:13SPEAKERhow to fix things myself,
53:14SPEAKERI absolutely love like the plumbers that post,
53:17SPEAKER"Hey, here's the right way to use a toilet snake,"
53:20SPEAKERor "Here's how," it's always plumbing stuff for me,
53:23SPEAKERbut "Here's how to snake your tub,"
53:27SPEAKERand all that kind of stuff.
53:29SPEAKER- Like it's incredibly useful.
53:30SPEAKER- Years and years ago,
53:31SPEAKERI learned to tie a Windsor knot from YouTube
53:34SPEAKERin five minutes, you know?
53:35SPEAKER- Double Windsor or a single Windsor?
53:37SPEAKER- Just a single.
53:38SPEAKER- Just a single. - I'm not that fancy.
53:39SPEAKERCan you even tell the difference once it's tied?
53:41SPEAKERLike is it visible?
53:42SPEAKER- Single is symmetric, the double is symmetrical
53:44SPEAKERand the single is a little lopsided.
53:46SPEAKER- Interesting, okay, well, nobody noticed.
53:48SPEAKER- I didn't, we didn't judge.
53:50SPEAKER- I got it in one at the wedding I went to
53:52SPEAKERa couple of weeks ago, like first time I tied it,
53:55SPEAKERlike length correct, everything, I was very proud.
53:57SPEAKERSee, I had enough jobs that I got really good at,
53:59SPEAKERthat I had to wear a tie at that I got good at tying a tie
54:02SPEAKERand I'd do it twice a year if it's a bad year these days.
54:06SPEAKER- Anyway, I think it's possible to carve out
54:08SPEAKERa nice existence on YouTube these days
54:10SPEAKERin terms of the stuff that you're getting recommended.
54:14SPEAKER- Yeah, like it's funny, my YouTube is like cute cats
54:18SPEAKERand dogs 'cause I watch it a lot with my daughter
54:20SPEAKERand like rollercoaster POVs
54:23SPEAKER'cause we watch rollercoaster videos together
54:25SPEAKERand then like people making stuff that's cool.
54:27SPEAKERSo it's, I can't complain.
54:29SPEAKER- You know what I've got a ton of since I got the new TV.
54:31SPEAKER- HDR demos, I bet.
54:33SPEAKER- So yes, I searched for HDR demos,
54:36SPEAKERbut a lot of what comes up are these just like
54:38SPEAKERwordless city walkthrough videos.
54:40SPEAKER- Oh, I love that.
54:41SPEAKER- Somebody just got like an HDR 4K camera
54:43SPEAKERon some kind of steady cam thing,
54:44SPEAKERthen they're just 45 minutes of walking through
54:47SPEAKERa major city at night or whatever.
54:49SPEAKER- That sounds pretty good.
54:50SPEAKER- And so like, I've got one queued up right now
54:52SPEAKERfrom two days ago 'cause now I'm getting a served
54:54SPEAKERa crap load of them, you know, it's like, you know,
54:56SPEAKERit's like, hey, Chicago in a rainstorm or whatever.
54:59SPEAKERLike I've got one queued up.
55:00SPEAKERThat's Roppongi Hills in Tokyo,
55:02SPEAKERlike all the Christmas decorations are up.
55:04SPEAKER- Oh, that sounds good.
55:05SPEAKER- From literally like two days ago,
55:06SPEAKERit's a 4K HDR like demo, but also it's just,
55:10SPEAKERif you just want to sit there and zone out
55:12SPEAKERand watch somebody walk around in a city,
55:13SPEAKERit's pretty awesome.
55:15SPEAKER- That sounds fabulous.
55:17SPEAKER- Yes.
55:17SPEAKER- So, okay, last thing for me,
55:21SPEAKERI got a new iPad last year.
55:22SPEAKERIt's the first new iPad I've had since like
55:24SPEAKERthe second air probably.
55:26SPEAKERSo it's been a minute.
55:28SPEAKERI didn't really, I found I was using the laptop
55:31SPEAKERinstead of the iPad.
55:33SPEAKER- Really?
55:34SPEAKER- Yeah, 'cause I wasn't doing like pencil-y stuff.
55:37SPEAKERI wasn't doing anything that required drawing
55:38SPEAKERand I switched to big phones.
55:40SPEAKERSo I was using the big phone for stuff,
55:42SPEAKERbut the iPad I've really enjoyed having
55:44SPEAKER'cause I can read, like I subscribed to Marvel Unlimited
55:47SPEAKERfor like 30 bucks and read a bazillion old Marvel comics
55:50SPEAKERand have been doing a lot, kind of a lot of drag.
55:54SPEAKERI got Procreate and a couple other things
55:57SPEAKERand I've started doing a lot of drawing on the iPad
55:59SPEAKERand like I'll do sketching.
56:01SPEAKERI do storyboarding for stuff that we're doing at work.
56:04SPEAKERMy daughter takes it and does like
56:06SPEAKERall sorts of cool flat drawing.
56:08SPEAKERIt's been surprisingly good.
56:12SPEAKERAnd I realized I've been using it
56:13SPEAKER'cause I had to buy new tips for the pencil
56:17SPEAKERin like June of this year.
56:18SPEAKERSo in six months we burned through one tip
56:21SPEAKERand I just pulled the last one out of the thing.
56:26SPEAKERShe draws a lot and it's also worth mentioning,
56:28SPEAKERI put one of those paper texture screen protectors
56:32SPEAKERon the iPad so they wear it a little bit faster
56:34SPEAKER'cause it's got a little bit of a,
56:38SPEAKERI don't know how to describe it,
56:38SPEAKERbut it's just like a little bit of a,
56:40SPEAKERit's got a paper texture on it basically.
56:42SPEAKER- A matte kind of texture.
56:44SPEAKER- When you're rubbing the pencil on it,
56:46SPEAKERit feels like you're actually writing on paper.
56:48SPEAKER- I don't think I ever considered that the tips
56:50SPEAKERon the Apple Pencil would wear out.
56:52SPEAKER- Yeah, they're soft enough plastic
56:55SPEAKERthat they just, the thing that happens
56:59SPEAKERis you get a flat side and a not flat side.
57:04SPEAKERAnd it's not super apparent,
57:06SPEAKERbut I don't want to damage the screen.
57:07SPEAKERAnd the tips, the replacement tips are like $2 each
57:10SPEAKERor something, you get a three pack for eight bucks,
57:12SPEAKERI think, or six bucks.
57:14SPEAKERSo they're not, it is a relatively low cost of entry.
57:19SPEAKERAnd the pencil is another one of those things.
57:24SPEAKERThe iPad I have uses the version two pencil,
57:27SPEAKERnot the version one pencil.
57:28SPEAKERIt's kind of remarkable how well that thing works.
57:32SPEAKER- That's cool.
57:33SPEAKER- Yeah.
57:34SPEAKER- 'Cause it seems like it would be very gimmicky.
57:35SPEAKERLike, I mean, you know, Apple's good at this,
57:37SPEAKERbut like to hear that they have developed it
57:38SPEAKERinto something that is actually like extremely useful
57:41SPEAKERand possibly even critical to somebody's workflow.
57:44SPEAKER- It's, so there's two things.
57:46SPEAKERThe drawing tool that I use is really, really good.
57:50SPEAKERAnd it does both pressure sensitivity
57:51SPEAKERand angle sensitivity.
57:52SPEAKERSo you can do like really thin,
57:54SPEAKERyou can do like crazy thin lines if you want,
57:56SPEAKERbut you can also apply some pressure
57:58SPEAKERand vary your thicknesses and stuff like that.
58:00SPEAKERAnd it models everything from like paint markers
58:03SPEAKERand Sharpies all the way down to brushes
58:06SPEAKERand stuff like that.
58:07SPEAKERI mostly use pencils and like fountain pen type ink.
58:13SPEAKERAnd then their free form thing is really good
58:15SPEAKERfor when I need to sketch something out
58:17SPEAKERfor like a flow in the game or something like that.
58:22SPEAKERSo like I did storyboards the other day
58:23SPEAKERand that was all in that.
58:25SPEAKER- I wonder if working out like the physics characteristics
58:28SPEAKERof those different brush and pencil and pen types
58:31SPEAKERwas an interesting problem for whoever worked on that.
58:33SPEAKERLike having to model the, like the pressure and the angle
58:37SPEAKERand surface contact and stuff like that.
58:40SPEAKER- Well, so the neat thing is in Procreate at least,
58:43SPEAKERlike there's a whole cottage industry of people
58:46SPEAKERwho build tools for that.
58:49SPEAKER- Oh wow, that's cool.
58:51SPEAKER- They like, you can sell your brushes on the marketplace.
58:56SPEAKERAnd I mean, it's the normal thing
58:58SPEAKERwith like any kind of creator economy.
59:00SPEAKERBut they actually have people come on there like,
59:03SPEAKERyeah, I do this brush and this brush and this brush.
59:05SPEAKERLike I didn't never in a million years thought
59:06SPEAKERthat this would be my job,
59:08SPEAKERbut now I make brushes for Procreate for a living.
59:11SPEAKERAnd they're actually just rolling out their 2D animation
59:14SPEAKERthing, I think like next month
59:17SPEAKERthat goes along with Procreate, so.
59:19SPEAKER- That's cool.
59:20SPEAKER- Pretty stoked, like Procreate's a remarkable piece
59:22SPEAKERof software, I quite like it.
59:24SPEAKER- Quite a name as well.
59:26SPEAKER- I mean, they look, a good name goes a long way.
59:29SPEAKER- Sure, all right, my last thing here.
59:33SPEAKERI'm going to call this body tech, I guess.
59:35SPEAKER- Okay, yeah.
59:37SPEAKER- Intermittent fasting.
59:38SPEAKER- Oh, this is, I see the ads for this on TikTok,
59:41SPEAKERall the time.
59:42SPEAKERYou get an app and then some muscly guy yells at you some
59:45SPEAKERand the next thing you know, like you're ripped, right?
59:50SPEAKER- You don't need an app for this, do not pay money for,
59:52SPEAKERyou can just go read a webpage or two and you're good.
59:56SPEAKER- Oh, so what's the gist?
59:58SPEAKER- The gist is don't eat.
1:00:00SPEAKER- Okay.
1:00:01SPEAKER- What do you think?
1:00:02SPEAKER- I like eating, Brad, this seems like a bad thing for me.
1:00:04SPEAKER- So do I, but it turned out when I did less of it,
1:00:06SPEAKERI felt way better.
1:00:07SPEAKER- Oh, interesting.
1:00:08SPEAKER- And also have more mental clarity and energy as well,
1:00:13SPEAKERwhich seems paradoxical.
1:00:14SPEAKER- Do you get the meat sweats often now or not so much?
1:00:17SPEAKER- No, you mean when I do eat meat?
1:00:19SPEAKER- Yeah, when you do eat.
1:00:20SPEAKER- No, not really, no.
1:00:22SPEAKERI just generally feel a lot healthier than I did.
1:00:24SPEAKER- That's nice.
1:00:25SPEAKER- I won't get into it, but I was,
1:00:26SPEAKERlook, I'm in my mid forties now.
1:00:28SPEAKER- These things happen.
1:00:29SPEAKER- Your lifestyle catches up to you at some point.
1:00:31SPEAKER- That's true.
1:00:32SPEAKER- Word of warning to anybody who's younger than us,
1:00:35SPEAKERbut I didn't have anything like explicitly dire going on,
1:00:38SPEAKERbut some things were like, you know,
1:00:39SPEAKERmaybe I should live a little healthier.
1:00:41SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:00:42SPEAKER- And so, yeah, I started in like May.
1:00:45SPEAKER- Okay.
1:00:46SPEAKER- I actually just weighed myself this morning.
1:00:47SPEAKERI have lost 40 pounds since May.
1:00:48SPEAKER- Damn dude, nice, that's awesome.
1:00:50SPEAKER- It was like shocking how well it has worked.
1:00:53SPEAKER- So what's the, like you just only eat certain,
1:00:57SPEAKERin certain time periods?
1:00:58SPEAKERIs that how it works?
1:00:59SPEAKER- It's like super kind of however you want to do it.
1:01:00SPEAKERThere's all sorts of different ways people do it.
1:01:03SPEAKERI think the most common is to just like pick a window every
1:01:05SPEAKERday and that's the window you eat in.
1:01:07SPEAKERSo I'm eating in about an eight hour window every day.
1:01:09SPEAKER- Okay.
1:01:10SPEAKER- Roughly, it's variable.
1:01:11SPEAKERI'm not like super strict about it.
1:01:13SPEAKERLet's say from like a 1 p.m. to a 9 p.m.
1:01:15SPEAKERis about where I'm at right now.
1:01:17SPEAKER- Oh, that seems reasonable.
1:01:18SPEAKER- Yeah, it's super reasonable.
1:01:19SPEAKERMy, it's weird.
1:01:20SPEAKER- Do you eat three meals inside that window still?
1:01:22SPEAKER- No, this has been like a weird kind of wake up call
1:01:25SPEAKERfor a lot of things about our modern society
1:01:28SPEAKERis like maybe three squares a day
1:01:31SPEAKERis not actually necessary for sedentary people.
1:01:34SPEAKER- Especially, I mean, you go out on walks and stuff, right?
1:01:37SPEAKERYou're not lethargic.
1:01:38SPEAKER- I've also been getting more exercise this year.
1:01:40SPEAKERLike since I started fasting,
1:01:41SPEAKERI also started making a conscious effort
1:01:43SPEAKERto do more weightlifting and walking and stuff.
1:01:45SPEAKERBut like, I mean, I think back to,
1:01:47SPEAKERI think back to growing up, you know,
1:01:49SPEAKERand it's like the, you know,
1:01:50SPEAKERthe biscuits and gravy in the morning and like.
1:01:52SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:01:53SPEAKER- The old timers called that like a,
1:01:54SPEAKERlike a stick to your ribs breakfast.
1:01:56SPEAKERCause like the idea was you ate that
1:01:58SPEAKERand then you went and worked in the saw mill all day
1:02:00SPEAKERor worked out in the field all day.
1:02:02SPEAKER- Yeah, for some sort of physical labor.
1:02:04SPEAKER- Yeah, so anyway, whatever.
1:02:05SPEAKERLike you can, if you just Google intermittent fasting,
1:02:07SPEAKERa bunch of links will come up.
1:02:08SPEAKERI'd like, I get the skepticism
1:02:10SPEAKERbecause there's a bunch of shitty apps being advertised,
1:02:12SPEAKERlike on Twitter and stuff for this.
1:02:13SPEAKERBut like, it's like Johns Hopkins and Harvard Health
1:02:16SPEAKERor Harvard Medical and Mayo Clinic
1:02:18SPEAKERare like the first things you'll find.
1:02:20SPEAKERAnd it's like, you know, it's working scientists
1:02:23SPEAKERand health and medical researchers
1:02:24SPEAKERwho are speaking on this stuff.
1:02:26SPEAKER- Well, the first time I saw anything
1:02:28SPEAKERabout intermittent fasting,
1:02:29SPEAKERand I don't mean this as a dig,
1:02:30SPEAKERbut was when, what's his name,
1:02:33SPEAKERPeter Thiel was, that was one of the things
1:02:36SPEAKERthat he cited it as part of his life,
1:02:38SPEAKERlife extending plan was the research
1:02:42SPEAKERthat the people who do intermittent fasting
1:02:43SPEAKERtend to have longer lifespans with better outcomes
1:02:46SPEAKERtoward the end of life.
1:02:46SPEAKER- Yes, Peter Thiel is a nightmare,
1:02:49SPEAKERbut he's not, you know,
1:02:50SPEAKERhe could read a study like anybody else.
1:02:52SPEAKER- Just because it's popular with tech bros
1:02:54SPEAKERdoesn't mean it's to be discounted, I guess.
1:02:56SPEAKER- That's kind of exactly,
1:02:58SPEAKERthat's exactly where I'm at.
1:02:59SPEAKERI mean, whatever, you know, no research is definitive.
1:03:01SPEAKERAnyway, I just, I feel better
1:03:03SPEAKERand clearly it has been effective at weight loss.
1:03:05SPEAKER- Are you finding that you like are just starving
1:03:08SPEAKERat one o'clock when the clock ticks over?
1:03:11SPEAKER- Not anymore. - Really?
1:03:13SPEAKER- I would say like, if you try to do this,
1:03:14SPEAKERthe first two weeks are pretty rough.
1:03:16SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:03:17SPEAKER- Like the first two weeks are definitely some like,
1:03:18SPEAKERoh my God, I cannot make it till two o'clock.
1:03:20SPEAKERI'm gonna die.
1:03:21SPEAKERI'm gonna claw my way there kind of thing.
1:03:23SPEAKER- Are you still drinking coffee in the morning?
1:03:25SPEAKEROr is it like, liquids are fine, right?
1:03:27SPEAKER- I do drink black coffee.
1:03:28SPEAKERSo like anything that's not,
1:03:30SPEAKERI haven't even gotten into the actual,
1:03:32SPEAKERI don't know that I could do a good job of explaining this,
1:03:34SPEAKERbut like the idea is that the,
1:03:37SPEAKERI believe it's the insulin in your blood
1:03:38SPEAKERis dropping basically.
1:03:39SPEAKERLike the things that, the things that,
1:03:42SPEAKERthe things that tell your body to use the sugar
1:03:44SPEAKERin your bloodstream, those hormones go down
1:03:46SPEAKERbecause there's no more sugar in your bloodstream, right?
1:03:47SPEAKERLike after so many hours.
1:03:49SPEAKERAnd that's when you start using your fat stores for energy
1:03:51SPEAKERinstead of the blood circulating as blood sugar.
1:03:55SPEAKER- That's fascinating.
1:03:56SPEAKER- Yeah, so anyway, like the schedules are like,
1:03:58SPEAKERlike I said, I don't eat in the morning
1:03:59SPEAKERand I just basically eat kind of early,
1:04:01SPEAKERlate, mid-afternoon until sometime before bed.
1:04:04SPEAKER- And are you just eating normal stuff in the like normal,
1:04:08SPEAKERthe normal stuff you always would?
1:04:09SPEAKER- There's like all kinds of different plans
1:04:11SPEAKERyou can go look at.
1:04:11SPEAKERSome of them literally say like,
1:04:12SPEAKERhey, eat anything you want for six hours a day
1:04:15SPEAKERor something like that.
1:04:16SPEAKERLike it's just one way, one way people do it.
1:04:17SPEAKERSo like, like a six and 18 is what a lot of people do,
1:04:22SPEAKERwhich is a little hardcore for me.
1:04:23SPEAKERI do more of like an eight and 16.
1:04:25SPEAKERSome people do like an every other day thing.
1:04:27SPEAKERLike some people like eat one day and not the next,
1:04:29SPEAKERwhich I don't think I could ever handle.
1:04:31SPEAKERThat's a kind of an extreme one for me.
1:04:33SPEAKER- That seems like, that much variation seems bad,
1:04:36SPEAKERbut like limiting it to six or eight hours seems like,
1:04:41SPEAKERyeah, it seems manageable.
1:04:42SPEAKER- It's crazy how much you change over the course of like,
1:04:44SPEAKERsay a month of doing this, because like I'll have not eaten.
1:04:47SPEAKERSome days I'll have not eaten for like 16, 18 hours.
1:04:49SPEAKERAnd I get to the point where I can eat.
1:04:51SPEAKERAnd I'm just like, yeah, I guess I'll eat.
1:04:53SPEAKERLike I don't even think of it's not,
1:04:55SPEAKERI'm not even thinking about it anymore.
1:04:56SPEAKERIt's really, it's a weird mental, physiological change.
1:05:00SPEAKERI feel like I'm,
1:05:01SPEAKERI feel like I'm peddling some kind of woo here, but.
1:05:04SPEAKER- When you said you were doing this, this was my first,
1:05:06SPEAKERmy first response was, oh, Brad's into the woo now.
1:05:09SPEAKER- I worry that it comes off that way.
1:05:10SPEAKERBut like, it really has like, I genuinely feel better.
1:05:13SPEAKERAnd again, like 40 pounds in six months
1:05:16SPEAKERfeels pretty significant.
1:05:17SPEAKERAnd to be clear, I had a lot to lose.
1:05:18SPEAKERThat's not going to be everyone's experience.
1:05:20SPEAKER- Yeah, but six months is like 24 weeks.
1:05:22SPEAKERSo that's two pounds a week,
1:05:23SPEAKERwhich is a reasonable amount of weight to lose, right?
1:05:26SPEAKERLike you're, yeah, that makes sense.
1:05:29SPEAKERHuh, I might get intermittent, too.
1:05:33SPEAKERI think that's it.
1:05:34SPEAKERI'd be curious when people post,
1:05:37SPEAKERwhen people are reading this, listening to the episode,
1:05:39SPEAKERI'd love for people in the Discord
1:05:41SPEAKERto post to the things that they're thankful for,
1:05:42SPEAKER'cause I'm sure that people have good stuff.
1:05:45SPEAKERYou can post it in the thread,
1:05:46SPEAKERor if you're a non-Discord listener,
1:05:49SPEAKERyou can just send us an email at techbot@content.town.
1:05:51SPEAKERMaybe we'll pull out some of the good ones
1:05:53SPEAKERat the Q&A episode at the end of the month.
1:05:57SPEAKERBut it's all, and Brad, as always, I'm thankful for you.
1:06:00SPEAKER- Well, thank you, same to you.
1:06:02SPEAKER- I enjoy, our weekly chats are always a highlight
1:06:06SPEAKERof the end of my week, so.
1:06:08SPEAKER- Yeah, same to you.
1:06:09SPEAKER- I'm also thankful for our patrons.
1:06:11SPEAKER- Yes, absolutely, without whom we would not be here.
1:06:14SPEAKER- Without the patrons, yeah,
1:06:15SPEAKERthis is a listener-supported show,
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1:07:28SPEAKER- Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you.
1:07:30SPEAKER- And I guess that'll do it for us this week.
1:07:32SPEAKER- Yes, it will.
1:07:33SPEAKERI will say, if anybody goes out, and I mean,
1:07:35SPEAKERyou'll see this if you go look up any fasting stuff,
1:07:37SPEAKERlike talk to your doctor before you make
1:07:39SPEAKERany major dietary changes in case you're--
1:07:41SPEAKER- What if I don't believe, look,
1:07:43SPEAKERwhat if I only believe in medicine
1:07:45SPEAKERthat I read about on Twitter,
1:07:46SPEAKERand I do my own research, Brad.
1:07:49SPEAKER- I think you'll be just fine then.
1:07:50SPEAKER- Okay, that sounds great.
1:07:52SPEAKERThanks everybody for listening.
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1:07:55SPEAKERAnd I hope everybody has, in the U.S. at least,
1:07:57SPEAKERhas a lovely Thanksgiving.
1:07:59SPEAKERBye.
1:08:00SPEAKER(upbeat music)