00:00SPEAKERIt's been a weirdly quiet week at the Smith house, Brad.
00:02SPEAKERYeah. Is that out of the norm?
00:05SPEAKERWell, I mean, norm's not here either, but no, my daughter in some California fifth graders,
00:13SPEAKERmaybe all of them, I don't know, maybe all of them that their districts pay for it is maybe how it
00:18SPEAKERworks. Go to this thing called outdoor ed for a week where they go to a disused summer camp.
00:26SPEAKERThere are a bunch of high schoolers there as counselors and they do, they, they like work
00:33SPEAKERwith naturists. Nope, not naturists, naturalists, naturalists, naturists or something different.
00:39SPEAKERI think, wait, is that a thing? Hang on. Now I need to know.
00:41SPEAKERI think those, I think that's the new, the preferred term for nudists, but I'm not sure.
00:45SPEAKERAnyway, you sure a lifestyle of practicing non-sexual social nudity in private and in
00:52SPEAKERpublic. Yeah. So naturalist, just naturalist to learn about the outdoors. And they usually go to,
01:00SPEAKERlike they usually like, like for us, they went down to Pescadero, which is like Redwood,
01:05SPEAKERRedwood groves in the coastal mist forest, you know, the whole thing.
01:09SPEAKERI can never hear Pescadero without thinking about Terminator 2 anyway.
01:13SPEAKERWait, when did they talk about Pescadero and Terminator 2?
01:15SPEAKERThat's where the, like the state mental hospital is that they bust out of.
01:19SPEAKERGod, that is a long drive from LA. Is it?
01:22SPEAKERBecause it's like 30 minutes south of my house. Well, they got that chopper.
01:26SPEAKERArnold doesn't have sleep either. You know, he can just kind of just drive straight through.
01:31SPEAKERYeah. So, so anyway, we we've been here like single single note, no kids,
01:38SPEAKERwhich is the first time that's happened in like 10 years for like, I mean,
01:42SPEAKERshe's gone to sleepovers and stuff for a night or two, but like, it's never been where I can't
01:48SPEAKERtalk to my daughter since she was able to talk. Is it, is it, is it like communications blackout?
01:53SPEAKERLike you can't just call if you want? No, no, they both, A, it's Pescadero,
01:58SPEAKERso there's no internet or really limited phone. Oh.
02:01SPEAKERBut yeah, like they only call you if there's an emergency, you need to come get them or something
02:04SPEAKERbad happens. So like no calls is good news. No news is good news. Yes.
02:08SPEAKERYeah. But it's, it's, it's parents will get this. It is profoundly weird.
02:12SPEAKERI'm sure. To not be able to like,
02:14SPEAKERjust say, Hey, good night, kiddo. And, and so she comes back in like four hours. I'm pretty excited.
02:19SPEAKERWe get to hear all about it. I'm sure you got to, you just got to take a deep breath
02:22SPEAKERbefore they leave and just be like, all right, I've got to play it cool. I've got to just,
02:26SPEAKEReverything will be fine. I'm sure everything will be fine.
02:28SPEAKERWhen the school bus, so the kids were really excited because they were at a school bus down
02:31SPEAKERthere and like, we aren't a school bus district. So none of these kids had ridden school buses
02:35SPEAKERbefore. God, that's right. Took a second for that to sink in for me.
02:42SPEAKERYeah. Cause like growing up in the South school buses were how everybody got to school.
02:46SPEAKERIt's like the quintessential public school experience.
02:49SPEAKERYeah. We but also all the kids were super stoked about getting to get on the school bus. Cause
02:53SPEAKERthey'd never had that experience before. And the parents were all like, Oh, you know, big,
02:58SPEAKERbig tears. And then we all went and got coffee afterwards, which was nice. So yeah, but it's,
03:04SPEAKERit's it's interesting. Cause I bought for her to make this a little bit about technology,
03:10SPEAKERnot just about being a dad. Before we went, she was, they were like, you can take a disposable
03:15SPEAKERcamera or like send a cheap digital camera. I was like, wow, I can't believe they still
03:20SPEAKERmake disposable cameras. That's shocking. And then I went to look and see what a cheap
03:24SPEAKERdigital camera cost. And for like 30 bucks, you can get a 44 megapixel camera with admittedly,
03:32SPEAKERprobably a terrible UI. It is very clearly just a smartphone sensor jammed into a box
03:38SPEAKERwith a battery and a memory card slot. And like, it looks like a UI that, I mean, honestly, Brad,
03:43SPEAKERI think if you and I sat down and spent two days on it, we could probably do a better job.
03:47SPEAKERI believe it.
03:49SPEAKERAnd it like has like, it's, it's I'm in, but the pictures were not bad.
03:54SPEAKERTolerable. Is it, is it, is it of a brand that you had ever heard of?
03:58SPEAKEROh no, no, no, no, no. It's I will tell you what brand it is.
04:03SPEAKERAnd did it come from what's the, what is the, what is the AliExpress that you were
04:07SPEAKERcompetitor, I should say?
04:08SPEAKERTeemu. It was, it was, I needed it late enough. I forgot to order it. So I did not have time to
04:15SPEAKERorder from Teemu. And honestly, my experience with other stuff bought from Teemu does not
04:20SPEAKERlead me to believe that it is a good, it was a good choice.
04:23SPEAKERYeah. We, we, we still, we still need to revisit the, the $6 handheld game player.
04:28SPEAKERWell, I think we should do a review roundup. I'll maybe I'll bring the $6 handheld game.
04:33SPEAKERIt's been sitting on my desk for two months. So.
04:35SPEAKERI mean, a embracing to find, to find out that there's something
04:39SPEAKERabsolutely awful about Teemu that I, that we shouldn't be talking about Teemu because of,
04:42SPEAKERbut B every time I go to Teemu, I just think we need to do an entire episode on it.
04:47SPEAKERCause I went to Teemu and type digital camera.
04:49SPEAKERYeah.
04:50SPEAKERFor $13 and 81 cents.
04:52SPEAKERYep. What do you get?
04:53SPEAKERIt's it looks like a Canon. Was it like EOS or what was the, what was the,
04:56SPEAKERPowerShot.
04:57SPEAKEROr was it L for PowerShot? Like remember the, the Canon from like 15, 20, 15 years ago?
05:01SPEAKERGod, was it 20 years ago?
05:02SPEAKERSo I found my old Canon from 15 or 20 years ago the day after she left.
05:07SPEAKEROh, that's a bummer because that's probably, well, actually, I don't know.
05:10SPEAKERIt might be quite dated at this point.
05:12SPEAKERIt's a six, it's a six megapixel, but it's a, it's a, it's not a CMOS sensor. It's a CC sensor.
05:18SPEAKERNo, no. See, what was the other one?
05:21SPEAKERCCD.
05:21SPEAKERCCD. So the pixels are bigger. So it looks pretty good.
05:24SPEAKEROkay. I'll just close the loop here. It looks like one of those classic Canon digital cameras.
05:29SPEAKERIt even has the Canon font, but instead of where it would say Canon, it just says camera.
05:35SPEAKERIt says camera in the Canon font.
05:37SPEAKERThat seems right. This is a, this was a sending digital camera. It came with two batteries.
05:42SPEAKEROkay.
05:43SPEAKERYeah. So, you know, and a 32 gigabyte SD card that I immediately threw in the
05:47SPEAKERtrash because I was pretty skeptical of it.
05:49SPEAKERYou know, that might be for the best.
05:51SPEAKERYeah.
05:52SPEAKERExcited to hear how these pictures turn out.
05:54SPEAKERI just hope she remembers to take a picture.
06:24SPEAKERWelcome to Brad and Will Made at TechPod. I'm Will.
06:27SPEAKERI am Brad. Hello.
06:28SPEAKERHi.
06:29SPEAKERHello. Hi. Hi. Hello.
06:30SPEAKERGreetings. I feel like I should change it up every week and not just, you know.
06:33SPEAKERReally? I feel like every week should be exactly the same as every other week.
06:37SPEAKERWe should just do the same thing forever and ever until we die like cogs in the machine.
06:41SPEAKERSo you say the thing and then I say the thing and then blank, you know, like it's,
06:44SPEAKERI feel like it's on me to keep it going.
06:46SPEAKEROh, so you're saying the forms of candling must be observed.
06:49SPEAKERSure. Yes.
06:51SPEAKERI, I watched Dune the other night while I was cleaning out my closet.
06:54SPEAKERIt's like I had it on in the background and I was like pulling out old clothes and,
06:58SPEAKERand discarding old t-shirts.
06:59SPEAKERWait, which Dune?
07:01SPEAKERThe new one.
07:02SPEAKEROh, okay.
07:02SPEAKERI like both Dunes a lot, but the new one, the new one is a good listener. It turns out.
07:08SPEAKERWe, we watched the old one. I saw it for the first time a few months ago. I don't.
07:13SPEAKERWait, you'd never seen it before?
07:14SPEAKERI had never seen it before. I guess I'll say I'm glad I saw it. And that's about all I'll say.
07:19SPEAKERWait, did you watch this as part of, as part of your festival of David Lynch?
07:22SPEAKERYes.
07:22SPEAKEROh man. What a fucking treat that is.
07:25SPEAKERIt's interesting. It's like, it's a weird, fascinating movie. I'm not going to say it's good.
07:29SPEAKEROh, it's oh, oh, Brad. It's like, so just so you know, I saw that when I was like
07:34SPEAKER12 years old, probably. And it was at that age, it was a life-changing, it was like,
07:40SPEAKERwhat if Star Wars, but horny.
07:42SPEAKEROf course. And also it was a very different time as well.
07:45SPEAKERYeah. Yeah. I mean, the effects, the effects, the Toto, all of that stuff landed much better
07:50SPEAKERin like 1986 than it does in 2023. I think.
07:53SPEAKERThe sleeper has awakened.
07:55SPEAKERYeah. What's her yeah. Like that, that, that movie is a okay.
08:01SPEAKERYou know what else has awakened?
08:03SPEAKERWhat else is Kyle McLaughlin?
08:05SPEAKERHe's always awake. He drinks a lot of coffee.
08:07SPEAKERDoes drink a lot of coffee. Yeah.
08:08SPEAKERAlso awake are these questions that have come in. These, these questions we have from both email
08:14SPEAKERand discord are alive and kicking.
08:16SPEAKERAll right. It must be the last Sunday of the month, right?
08:18SPEAKEROr the first Sunday of the next month.
08:21SPEAKERYeah. Because we forgot that this month has 30 days.
08:24SPEAKERHappy October, everyone. This will be a two email month.
08:27SPEAKERYep. Yep. It's a blue emails is what you call that one. When there's two email, two,
08:30SPEAKERtwo emails in one month, you call it a blue email month.
08:33SPEAKERIt's funny. It's a, it's a five Sunday month, meaning we are going to do emails twice. It's
08:37SPEAKERalso a five Monday month meaning we're going to do five horror movies on the watch cast this month.
08:42SPEAKEROh, cause you do watch cats on Mondays. Yes.
08:44SPEAKERWell, that's good. Are you picking actually scary stuff?
08:46SPEAKERAre you picking like slasher movies from the eighties about kids going to summer camp?
08:49SPEAKERThis is dumb inside baseball. There was a horror movie I wanted to include and we already had four.
08:53SPEAKERAnd then we looked at the calendar and it was like, oh, actually there's five weeks in this month.
08:57SPEAKERCool. I can slide my movie right in. It's it's a mix.
09:02SPEAKERIt's well, I haven't seen most of what we're watching, so I actually can't say for sure.
09:06SPEAKERBut I, I gather that the, was this a Suspiria, the Italian, maybe, maybe, maybe more weird than
09:13SPEAKERscary. And the Japanese movie Hausu, this sounds like it's definitely more weird than scary.
09:19SPEAKERSometimes Japanese horror movies can go either way on that,
09:21SPEAKERdepending on your particular response to stimuli.
09:24SPEAKERThis one is apparently legendary for just being wacky, wacky, weird shit was my impression.
09:31SPEAKERSo when the kiddo went to this camp, I had suggested watching some documentaries about
09:36SPEAKERchildren that go to summer camp and like, then, you know,
09:39SPEAKERjust so she knew what to do if something bad happened while she was there.
09:42SPEAKERI started to mention when you said the phrase disused summer camp earlier,
09:46SPEAKERI started to say that sounds like a horror movie waiting to happen. But anyway,
09:50SPEAKERlook, they have teenage counselors there to keep them safe. So it's okay.
09:53SPEAKERWhat could go wrong?
09:54SPEAKERYeah. And you know, it's not like there's a new person in charge of the camp this
09:59SPEAKERyear because the old person died under mysterious circumstances last year. It's everything's fine.
10:03SPEAKERCertainly teenage high school, teenage camp counselors could not invite the
10:07SPEAKERpuritanical wrath of the universe.
10:10SPEAKERNo, no, no, it's probably fine. But anyway, yeah, this is the week that we turn Qs into A's. That's
10:15SPEAKERa long way of getting that. If you have a question, you can send it to?
10:19SPEAKERTechpod@content.town
10:21SPEAKEROr questions seeking answers on the discord.
10:24SPEAKERThere you go. See, we mixed it up. It's like fill in the blanks.
10:28SPEAKERDo you want to start? We have a, we have a bunch of, we have a banner crop this month.
10:32SPEAKERA lot here. I've been on an old computer and old operating system kick on YouTube lately. So
10:40SPEAKERI'm going to read this one here from John Leftwich from the emails.
10:44SPEAKEROkay.
10:45SPEAKERAt a high level, why was windows me such a shit box?
10:48SPEAKERPronounced M E technically.
10:50SPEAKERIs it, is it M E?
10:51SPEAKERFor millennium edition.
10:52SPEAKERYeah. Millennium edition. Was that, was that the,
10:54SPEAKERwas that the approved pronunciation? Windows M E?
10:57SPEAKERI was not in a position to know, but I believe so. Cause windows XP is windows XP.
11:02SPEAKERWell, you read the abbreviations.
11:05SPEAKERI always got the sense. It was kind of a double meaning though,
11:07SPEAKERbecause that was also getting into the era of like, Oh,
11:10SPEAKERyour personal computer is yours. It's about you.
11:12SPEAKERThe computer is for you. It's personal.
11:15SPEAKERRemember when Time magazine named you the person of the year, not long after this.
11:19SPEAKERYeah. That was a great year for me, if I'm being honest.
11:22SPEAKERAnyway, at a high level, why was windows M E or me such a shit box of all the windows
11:27SPEAKERoperating systems I have used going back as far as I can remember that's universally the worst
11:32SPEAKERis my memory letting me down or was it really that trash?
11:36SPEAKERIt was the neither efficient or foul of windows, right? Like they took out all of the things that
11:40SPEAKERyou needed to run old stuff, like, like the command line shell and all that, but it also didn't have
11:47SPEAKERthe stability of a windows 2000 XP and two kernel. That's exactly it. And, and yeah. And, and like
11:55SPEAKERalso literally driver support for it was challenging because they weren't particularly
12:00SPEAKERgood at driver support at that point yet. So, and it, while it was supposed to run the old drivers,
12:06SPEAKERit was janky. Like the, the, the, it was supposed to, you're supposed to run windows 98 drivers in
12:11SPEAKERit seamlessly. And sometimes that was the case, but sometimes it wasn't depending on how old
12:15SPEAKERyour hardware was. Yeah. And, and, you know, I mean, you kind of touched on this. It was
12:19SPEAKERright around the time that Microsoft was transitioning to the NT based windows
12:23SPEAKERstarting with 2000 and the next P and then on and on. Yeah. Like I had my memory of me. I mean,
12:28SPEAKERI'd have to look at the release dates, but 2000 came out around the same time, maybe shortly
12:33SPEAKERafter I think 2000 came out before actually beta though, maybe even before I just, I remember when
12:38SPEAKERme came out, I was like, man, what an also ran this is like, they are clearly already moving to
12:42SPEAKERthe NT stuff. Like this just feels like the worst of both worlds. Like, why does this even exist?
12:49SPEAKERAnd I feel like it, it got retired very quickly. Didn't it, didn't it last like less than a year?
12:54SPEAKERSo ME came out after windows 2000. Yeah. Windows 2000 came out in March and windows ME came out in
13:00SPEAKERSeptember of 2000. Wow. I reviewed both of them for maximum PC, I guess we should, maybe we should
13:05SPEAKERgo look at those at some point. My memory of 2000 was, it was like still pretty nascent, you know,
13:11SPEAKERlike driver support was not amazing. And it's still, it still felt a little bit like you were
13:15SPEAKERrunning an enterprise OS on your, on your personal desktop. Like it wasn't, it wasn't until XP that
13:21SPEAKERit felt like, okay, this is just a real consumer windows for everybody. Yeah. That was, that was
13:25SPEAKERvery much the case. Like if you were trying to do stuff with it, that if you were trying to run
13:29SPEAKERhardware with it, that like would have had workstation drivers for windows XP windows,
13:34SPEAKER2000 was fine. If you had like a sound blaster card and multiple cores in your computer,
13:39SPEAKERwindows at 2000 was challenging. Yeah. So frankly though I ran NT4 on my machine. So going to 2000
13:46SPEAKERfelt like a vacation. It felt amazing. Yeah. The, the big jump for 2000 was that you could
13:52SPEAKERget direct 3d like windows NT4 didn't have direct 3d. It had other direct X stuff, but it didn't do
13:57SPEAKERdirect 3d. Direct X was super limited on NT4. The nice thing about NT4 though, was that it had
14:02SPEAKERdecent OpenGL support and all the games I cared about at that time were quake derivatives. So I
14:06SPEAKERcould play all those. Yeah. You're using that glide OpenGL to glide wrapper probably. I think I feel
14:12SPEAKERlike I remember like even, even like sound systems were different on NT4. Like you had to do some
14:16SPEAKERweird stuff to get sound in games and things like that. Well, yeah, they didn't, the priority sound
14:22SPEAKERstuff didn't exist in NT4. So it's like, it was, it was like, it was a weird, it was a weird in
14:30SPEAKERbetween. Yeah. NT4 was just NT with the windows 95 interface basically. Yeah. And if, if you wanted
14:39SPEAKERand eventually they added some stuff on it, like they added, they added direct 3d 3 direct X3,
14:43SPEAKERI think to it without the 3d component. But it was, it was, it was, it was janky. Yeah.
14:51SPEAKERBut it was the only bastion for people who couldn't stand the 90 X windows as anymore,
14:57SPEAKERbut also run Linux, Linux was viable at the time. Or if you had a multi-core machine, right? Like
15:02SPEAKERthat. Remember, this is also the era of the BP6, right? Or you could take to sell around 300 days
15:07SPEAKERand jam them into a gigantic a bit workstation board and get the dual core computing the golden
15:14SPEAKERage. I mean, I definitely did not have that, but, but that's the golden age. I had that. It was
15:19SPEAKERfucking awesome. I'm sure that was pretty good. That machine was the least reliable computer I've
15:23SPEAKERever owned in my life. I can see it. Yeah, I can see it, but you know, you wanted like true
15:27SPEAKERmultitasking and all the stuff of a modern operating system. That was kind of your option.
15:31SPEAKERJust, just to be clear, a seller on 300 day was like $108 CPU. And you could overclock them from
15:37SPEAKER300 megahertz to 500 megahertz. So it's like a 50, 50, it was a 50, 450, 300 to 450. So,
15:45SPEAKERso you could go to 500 if you lived a little bit on the edge. Okay. Well that's 450 was like
15:50SPEAKERbasically guaranteed a hundred, a hundred percent of units out of the box would do four 50 stable
15:55SPEAKERfour 50 was easy. So like what we're talking about is a dual CPU over dual overclocked incredibly
16:06SPEAKERcheap processor basically workstation board. So for like 500 bucks, you could have two CPUs
16:13SPEAKERand an NT workstation, but windows 95 and 98 and Emmy didn't support multiple CPUs. So
16:19SPEAKEReverybody was dual booting back then. Yes. Yes. There was a lot of that sort of thing
16:24SPEAKERback then. Boy, do I dare risk reading this email from Dave and Sheffield that I haven't
16:30SPEAKEReven read yet. It appears to be about when it was 11. Why don't we just keep this going?
16:34SPEAKERLive on the edge, man. Okay. I'm going to discover this one
16:38SPEAKERin real time. There was a lot of fuss about the simplified right-click menu when one is 11 was
16:43SPEAKERfirst released. And the discourse seems to have trended of late to most people adding that they
16:48SPEAKERare used to the process of the additional click to access the full menu. But I noticed at some
16:54SPEAKERpoint in the update life cycle, 22 H one, perhaps that you could hold down shift and right click,
16:59SPEAKERand you would go straight to the classic full menu. This for me has worked a treat. If I just
17:05SPEAKERwant to rename a file, look at its properties or perhaps go to the windows display set. Wait a
17:08SPEAKERminute. Is windows display settings buried in the sub menu. How often do you do windows display?
17:16SPEAKERNo display settings is not in the sub menu. It's not. Okay. How often do I use it? I mean,
17:20SPEAKERthis, this week as I've been trying to get my PC to output to my new TV properly, like a lot.
17:26SPEAKERWell, but that's just a weird, that's a weird one off. Yeah. Normally not that often.
17:35SPEAKERAnyway. Okay. Shift right click. It seems to be the tip. I did not know about this is a fabulous
17:39SPEAKERtip. Oh God. It even works in 10, except it adds more. I think I, maybe I knew this at one point.
17:45SPEAKEROh, what does it expand everything? It doesn't expand everything. It adds options that were not
17:50SPEAKERthere before. Well, okay. So like shift right click to open with is the classic, why I shift
17:56SPEAKERright click. Oh, wow. I don't think I knew about that one either. Yeah. Let me try it.
18:02SPEAKERDoes that not just work? It used to in the old days, in the old days, the open menu wasn't
18:08SPEAKERthere. If the file was associated with something. So you had to shift, right. Click to open with.
18:11SPEAKEROkay. Now it is now it is now I think open with is always there. I think we have we talked about
18:16SPEAKERbefore shift, shift, right. Click on taskbar buttons is also a winner. I think we've mentioned
18:21SPEAKERbefore, but that one, that one will get you things like minimize all windows and restore all windows,
18:26SPEAKERshow all windows side by side, like a lot of cool window management stuff. That's a good one.
18:33SPEAKERAnyway, there's a hot little window for you, mostly a windows 11 tip, but I'll tell you if I,
18:38SPEAKERif I shift, right, click the desktop, I get such options as open Linux shell here in windows 10.
18:44SPEAKEROoh. So we, we got fewer tips in response to the tips episode that I was hoping for. I was,
18:50SPEAKERI was hoping for a whole cavalcade of hot new tips and mostly people were like,
18:53SPEAKERoh, I hadn't heard those. Are you castizing the audience?
18:56SPEAKERNo, no, no. I'm just saying, you know, don't hold, don't look, don't hold your tips in reserve.
19:01SPEAKERYou got to use them when you know them. Hit them with them rather. That's what I'm trying to say.
19:07SPEAKERWe won't tell anybody. We'll just keep them between Brad. It'll just be Brad and my enjoying
19:11SPEAKERyour tips. We won't share them with everybody. I'm going to hoard all of the tips. I'm going to be so
19:14SPEAKERmuch more productive than everyone else. It'd be like a dragon for tips.
19:18SPEAKERUm, let's see, Brendan from Ontario, uh, during the switch from 10 AP to 4k,
19:24SPEAKERI remember seeing charts explaining how close you'd have to sit to different sizes of screens
19:28SPEAKERto be able to appreciate the upgrade. Assuming you have 20, 20 vision. I'm not surprised that
19:33SPEAKERAK doesn't matter to people because the average room doesn't have space for a suitably sized TV,
19:37SPEAKERwhere you could even notice the difference. Nevermind the budgets. Um, I understand that
19:42SPEAKERother facets of image quality are now more important and I'm seeing new stuff down the
19:45SPEAKERpike. Like I had not heard of any of these plasmonic faux LEDs. That's P H O L E D S.
19:52SPEAKERFaux LEDs or faux LEDs. Oh my God. Get out.
19:57SPEAKERNano LEDs, et cetera. Hang on. I got it. I assume nano LEDs are very small.
20:01SPEAKERNano LED sounds like maybe some kind of evolution of micro led.
20:04SPEAKERMaybe. Yeah. I'm guessing that read as monic faux LEDs. Is that a real,
20:09SPEAKERI think that seems real plasmonic faux leads increasing OLED stability is what this pay of
20:15SPEAKERthis white paper says the next generation of OLED emitters plasmonic faux led is the next big thing
20:22SPEAKERin OLED TVs. Plasma's coming back, baby. Oh, interesting. And now it's monic. Hang on. Now
20:28SPEAKERI have to type nano led in here as well. Sorry. I didn't even need to do this really, really,
20:32SPEAKERreally small micro LEDs. Here are a bunch of other articles describing nano led as also the next big
20:38SPEAKERscreen tech. Look, I'm going to go and tell you if you have to write, if you have to write 10 or
20:43SPEAKER20 news stories a day, anytime somebody is like, yo man, we got the next big screen tech coming.
20:48SPEAKERYou're like, hell yeah. Easy story today. Yeah. I'm going to have to look into this stuff though.
20:52SPEAKERI'm curious. So I wonder how nano led compares to micro led in terms of the tech. They sound quite
20:57SPEAKERrelated just based on the name anyway. Brendan says, my question is with compressed streaming
21:04SPEAKERbit rates being the way most of us consume media. Is there a point where further tech advancements
21:08SPEAKERjust don't matter anymore? Are these source limitations I'm referencing not standing in
21:12SPEAKERthe way of the kinds of improvements TVs can still make? So first off Brendan, I don't know that I
21:19SPEAKERagree with the charts about the, how close you have to sit to the TV for the different size and
21:25SPEAKERresolution TVs to matter, because I like to get like three feet away and feel like my TV is an
21:30SPEAKERIMAX. I don't get it. I don't understand that. I can't sit to select what different, different
21:35SPEAKERstrokes, but if I have to turn my head to see Vanna white, when I'm watching wheel of fortune,
21:40SPEAKERthat's, that's the only way I feel alive. If you're watching something, it's fine. I guess
21:43SPEAKERI'm thinking more for games. Like if I can't like very nicely square the whole screen in my field of
21:49SPEAKERview without having to turn my head or move my eyes around. Like, I feel like I have a harder time
21:53SPEAKERjust like parsing what I'm doing in the game. That's probably true. But like, so I have like
21:58SPEAKERa 24 inch monitor on my desktop and inside my glasses field of view from where I sit three feet
22:03SPEAKERaway from the monitor, I could easily fit a 27 inch TV on a screen. I'm realizing maybe even
22:10SPEAKERbigger. Yeah. Probably even bigger. I probably go up to the 30 if I wanted to get nuts. I feel like
22:17SPEAKERthe big upgrade from 1080 to 4k. Wasn't the resolution. It was the HDR stuff. The more eye
22:23SPEAKERcatching thing than the resolution. I can tell the difference on my new TV between 1080 and 4k. I'm
22:28SPEAKERabout 10 feet away from a 65 inch. Like it's not profound. Like 1080 still looks fine. In fact,
22:35SPEAKERlike going back to some games I was playing earlier this year, like dead space on the PS
22:39SPEAKERfive or as an evil four or stuff like that. Like I was playing all those in the performance modes
22:43SPEAKERbecause why wouldn't I? Cause I was on the 1080p TV anyway. Now I'm on the 4k and like going back
22:48SPEAKERand forth. I can see a difference, but it's like the 1080 is still acceptable. Well, yes, yes. HDR
22:56SPEAKERabsolutely is the thing that makes a bigger difference there by a lot. Yeah. And, and the
23:01SPEAKERpoint about streaming bit rates is pretty valid. Absolutely. The video codecs are getting better
23:07SPEAKERas we switch from H two 64 to AV one or, or, or H two six five or whatever the, the quality,
23:15SPEAKERthe video quality at the same bit rate is going to go up some, but we're still talking about,
23:21SPEAKERyou're still like, you're still talking about like not the best quality. You're talking about
23:26SPEAKERa lossy compression on something that you can actually tell the difference. And the, the, the,
23:31SPEAKERthe reason you don't notice is that our brains filter out compression noise over time. Like if
23:37SPEAKERyou, if in the DVD, we've talked about this before, but in the DVD era, I could not see
23:42SPEAKERMPEG two compression artifacts at all anymore after, after a couple of years. And now when you,
23:46SPEAKERwhen I go back and watch an MPEG two video, it's I'm, my brain is screaming at me that there's
23:51SPEAKERblocky chunks all over the video. So I cannot believe how long we have stuck on two six four.
23:58SPEAKERI just looked it up. That spec was published in 2004. Well, yeah, it didn't get popular until
24:03SPEAKERBlu-ray hit in 2007 though. Yeah. That wasn't even that long. I mean, that even that is still
24:07SPEAKER16 years ago. I mean, I mean, I just, I, it's just crazy how long it has stuck. I don't know that
24:13SPEAKERlike, like there's a lot of inertia because of the heart because, because they require hardware
24:18SPEAKERsupport to decode and encode now both, both hardware adoption, although like most things
24:22SPEAKERsupport two six five, I think, or at least unless it's like a very cheap streaming box or something
24:26SPEAKERlike that. But then like, like, like, like Jean Baptiste said on the false spot about VLC,
24:30SPEAKERlike there's also the royalty licensing issues around a lot of modern codex that have also
24:37SPEAKERheld things up. So nobody wants to pay and yeah. So, but then, but then like AV one is the solution
24:45SPEAKERto that. Cause it's licensed for yours, royalty free, but now we have to wait for everything to
24:49SPEAKERsupport that. So yeah. Lovely. Did we talk about next gen TV here? I know we talked about it on
24:56SPEAKERexplain to ramble. What's next gen TV, next gen TV is ATSC 3.0 ATSC being the successor to NTSC.
25:04SPEAKERSo this is the over the air broadcast standards. It's the next generation version of remember when
25:08SPEAKERbroadcast went digital and high definition, like 2006, seven, I think is when that switch
25:14SPEAKERover happened early two thousands. So this is the next iteration of that. So what changes it's it
25:19SPEAKERcan do 4k HDR over the air, but not eight K I doubt it's is HD only broadcasting 10 and a piece
25:27SPEAKERis over the air TV only 10 and a piece still. So this is to the point of this email that I was
25:32SPEAKERgoing to make. So a, I did a channel scan. I pick up 71 broadcast over the air digital channels in
25:38SPEAKERSan Francisco. Now I'm gonna need Christmas. I mean, a number of those are duplicates and
25:42SPEAKERquite a few of them are not something I would actually want to watch, but like,
25:44SPEAKERit's still kind of cool that all those channels are there. I really liked that Korean,
25:48SPEAKERthe Korean shop home shopping channel that used to run. I don't know if they still do that.
25:52SPEAKERIt's probably there. I haven't even gone through all those channels, but I, so six of those are
25:56SPEAKERnext. Also the actual branding is to next gen TV. Like I think it's a little goofy. There's a logo
26:01SPEAKERand everything next gen TV. It just sounds like Bill Gates, his favorite TV standard for sure.
26:07SPEAKERExtremely cheesy nineties branding. Anyway, I get six of those channels
26:12SPEAKERand at least two of those are still broadcasting 720 P over that 4k capable spectrum. You know,
26:20SPEAKERlike I think, I think one out of the six does HDR. None of them are above 10 AP.
26:25SPEAKERLike most of them, like the actual content is still very compressed. So it's like
26:30SPEAKERthe capability is there, but they are doing nothing with it.
26:33SPEAKERWhen you think about it, like the cost of upgrading the, the, you know, the TV studio
26:38SPEAKERinfrastructure, it's not like they just have a machine with OBS running on it.
26:41SPEAKERYeah, of course. Like it's expensive. So I get it.
26:44SPEAKERBut, but, but, you know, like the point here is extremely valid that like, you know,
26:49SPEAKERnothing is actually nothing except like the, I went on a spree of going around
26:54SPEAKERdownloading like Dolby vision and like LG OLED demo material, like very high bit rate 4k HDR
27:00SPEAKERstuff when I got the TV. But those are all just files I downloaded from, from those vendors and
27:05SPEAKERput it on a USB stick. Cause that's the, it's basically the only way, I mean, you could buy
27:09SPEAKERa UHD. Like I could, I could, I could go buy a UHD disc of something and put it in my Xbox.
27:14SPEAKERIf I really wanted to see like nice high bit rate, high quality stuff, but like 99% of what's
27:20SPEAKERout there. Not great. Does the PlayStation not do UHD disc? Oh, it does too. It does,
27:26SPEAKERbut it does not do Dolby vision. Oh, of course.
27:29SPEAKERThat gets into a weird and a whole other sub category of picking platforms and formats.
27:33SPEAKEROnce you get a TV like this is like, I tend to play most stuff on the PS5 by default,
27:39SPEAKERbut now I'm certainly thinking more like, Oh, should I get the Xbox version instead? Cause
27:44SPEAKERthat's got the better HDR. I just, I just, so when we were
27:48SPEAKERin Palm desert this summer and I had set up the TV to work the right way,
27:54SPEAKERGina at one point was like, I don't care if it's the best possible standard. It can look like,
27:59SPEAKERI just want it to not annoy me and just work. And I was like, okay. And I set it to just do stuff
28:05SPEAKERautomatically and everything was better. Automatic is good.
28:08SPEAKERShould we talk about universal remotes? Yeah. I'll read this one real quick here from Nathan.
28:15SPEAKERI bought an RF based Logitech harmony maybe a decade ago, and it's been excellent at wrangling
28:20SPEAKERmy various devices and systems. Unfortunately, after years of getting chucked and abused by
28:24SPEAKERtoddlers and maybe my me too, it's slowly starting to die following your very helpful August HDMI
28:31SPEAKERepisode. My TV is looking rather old as well. Sorry. So I'm considering a new TV, new 4k
28:36SPEAKERstreaming device thing, and some kind of new receiver as well. How do you handle the multiple
28:40SPEAKERremote situation? I haven't looked into this in quite some time. It seems like these days,
28:44SPEAKERpeople just rely on one of their factory remotes to just control everything else via HDMI CEC.
28:52SPEAKERThat strategy seems to be implied by most reviews and or discussions I've looked at lately,
28:55SPEAKERbut I haven't found an explicit description about how most folks use their remotes.
29:00SPEAKERThat is exactly how to do it. Yeah. That's what I set up for my parents
29:04SPEAKERbefore I left town and they love it. Like they absolutely like, they rave about it. Like even,
29:10SPEAKEReven my dad who had like, they have a bad harmony as well. Like he didn't even want to touch that
29:16SPEAKERthing and did not love the Apple TV remote. But then I set everything up where you only have to
29:20SPEAKERuse the Apple TV remote. Like he, he requires zero help to just turn everything on and find the thing
29:25SPEAKERhe wants to watch now. Yeah. The, the the, so the HDMI CEC thing works better the fewer devices you
29:31SPEAKERhave connected to them, to the TV. Yeah. For consoles generally if you use it, it'll turn
29:39SPEAKERon the TV and the receiver or whatever else you have in the chain. And then when you turn off the
29:43SPEAKERconsole, it turns off the TV and the receiver. Most, I think both, I think both the PlayStation
29:48SPEAKERand the Xbox lets you let you configure that. So you can have it stay on if you want. And then
29:52SPEAKERit'll just turn off when the timeout runs on the TV five minutes later. But that feels wasteful to
29:57SPEAKERme. And also that means that the receiver stays on basically indefinitely. But, but like I don't,
30:03SPEAKERso the HDMI CEC support varies widely based on what the box you have is too. It's like the
30:10SPEAKERAmazon fire TVs. I haven't, I haven't actually tested a new one in a really long time. So they
30:14SPEAKERmay be better at it now when they were first and second generation, they were terrible at it.
30:20SPEAKERThe Apple TVs have always been really good. So one of the, like I buy the Apple TVs because of that.
30:24SPEAKERAnd because of the fact that they don't run a bunch of ads on the menus. Yeah. It seems
30:30SPEAKERvery, the Apple TV specifically seems very reliable from what I used of it before I left.
30:38SPEAKERAnd everybody getting new TVs here. We're going to move on to the discord questions here.
30:43SPEAKERHere's a question from Warbird about the old TV.
30:49SPEAKERHere we go. Over under on Brad, getting rid of the old TV is currently at one year
30:54SPEAKERwill over or under. Wait, you didn't get rid of the old TV when they brought the new TV.
30:59SPEAKEROh, you have two TVs in your, in your living room. They didn't offer to take it away. That's not a
31:04SPEAKERservice they provide, but you buy a Costco. No, I bought it from Amazon. Oh, if you buy it from
31:10SPEAKERBest Buy, they'll take the old TV. When you, when they bring the new TV. Interesting. What are you
31:14SPEAKERgoing to do? Put it on the sidewalk? Do the classic? Probably going to Craigslist it, I think.
31:19SPEAKERSo I tried to Craigslist one of these because I had to replace my Panasonic about six years ago.
31:24SPEAKERWait, your plasma? Yeah. Wait, what are you using now?
31:28SPEAKERMy plasma. It's the same plasma. I just bought a, I bought one for 200 bucks.
31:33SPEAKERWait, you bought another one? I mean, it's a little bit bigger than the one I had originally.
31:39SPEAKERI did not realize that. This was, this was before we started doing the tech pod probably.
31:43SPEAKERDid you buy, you bought the second one to use? Yeah. A friend, a friend replaced theirs with a,
31:51SPEAKERwith a larger, with an OLED. And I was like, Hey, mine's doing that wine thing. Does yours wine?
31:57SPEAKERThey're like, no. And I was like, I'll call it off and, you know, take it for you for, you know?
32:01SPEAKERYeah. Anyway. Okay. But I got rid of our old one though. I couldn't get anybody to come get it
32:07SPEAKERto pay for it. No. I was like, Hey, like I started at 500 bucks thinking it was a good deal and it
32:13SPEAKERwas not a good deal. So by the time it got down to like, like, I was like, I put it on for $150 or
32:20SPEAKERsomething. And and then I was just like, I'm going to, somebody called and was like, Hey, my T my
32:27SPEAKERapartment got broken into. Is there any chance you can make me a deal on this? It was like,
32:30SPEAKERif you come haul it off and I don't have to carry it into your car, it's yours.
32:33SPEAKERYes. That's probably what I'm going to end up doing. Like I might throw it out there for a
32:37SPEAKERhundred bucks just to see if it's possible, but, but I probably will just be like, Hey, free TV.
32:43SPEAKERIn retrospect, probably putting it up for a hundred bucks. Weeded out the cranks.
32:47SPEAKERSure. So yeah, I can see that. I mean, huh. That's, that's interesting to hear. Cause like
32:53SPEAKERthose Panasonic plasmas and also the pioneer plasmas from around the same time,
32:56SPEAKERlike we're kind of legendary for a while. So I wondered, I wondered if there would still be some
33:01SPEAKERlike weird devoted fan community of people who are like trying to kind of like the way CRTs are
33:07SPEAKERrarer, you know, like people are trying to buy up the remaining plasmas, but maybe not.
33:11SPEAKERThis probably was before that would have been possible. Does your TV have component inputs?
33:17SPEAKERThe new one? Yeah. Definitely not built in. I think I might've read that there's some
33:24SPEAKERkind of breakout or something, but I can't remember.
33:28SPEAKEROh yeah. I'm I'm like, that's the other thing I'm a little worried about. I'm going to have
33:33SPEAKERto buy a frame master Meister to play like my old Xbox, my old GameCube games and stuff.
33:39SPEAKERI think you probably want to go retro tank at this point. I think that's,
33:42SPEAKERthat's probably, probably the gold standard of analog up upscaling.
33:46SPEAKERBut I have to buy a box basically is what you're saying.
33:49SPEAKERYes. Probably I I'll, I'll check.
33:54SPEAKERI'm going to take the under on Brad getting rid of the old TV in less than a year.
33:56SPEAKERIt's sitting in the kitchen right now. Cause there's nowhere else to put it. Like it needs
33:59SPEAKERto go. Like it's big enough that it's going to annoy you into getting rid of it. It's not
34:02SPEAKERlike the cherry you can push off in the corner. I really overburdened myself that week. We took
34:08SPEAKERoff from next lander recently because I both bought a new TV and also did a complete NAS
34:12SPEAKERrebuild and moved all the cuts guts of the NAS into a new case as well. It was a lot.
34:17SPEAKERWhich case did you get? It was a lot of tape. No, I was moving it into my old desktop case.
34:23SPEAKERThe define R6 that used to be my desktop is now the mass. But it was,
34:28SPEAKERthat was a whole lot of tearing the whole house apart. Rebuilding things.
34:32SPEAKERYeah. We, we, we took advantage of my daughter being a way to clean the house from top to bottom
34:38SPEAKERthis week. And we did about 30% of what we thought we were going to do. Cause we've got a lot of,
34:44SPEAKERwe've got, we caused a problem for ourselves during the three years that we didn't leave
34:48SPEAKERthe house. You can see that. Yeah. Yeah. I got, I got, or actually it took about a week longer
34:54SPEAKERto get all that done than I thought it would. But anyway, the reason I brought that up is that I now
34:57SPEAKERhave both the old TV and also this old defined mini and like half of a computer in it. So I'm
35:04SPEAKERgoing to have to do the Craigslist thing pretty soon if I want to get all that mess out of here.
35:08SPEAKERYeah. I have my old stream machine that I'm using as a foot rest right now. It's like an Athlon
35:13SPEAKER3600 or something. Huh? Okay. And it's like, it's, it was unstable, but I think it was unstable.
35:19SPEAKERAnyway, we don't have to get into it. I'm getting, I'm getting a look from the doorway.
35:23SPEAKERYeah. Time to clear it out, man. Time, time to get this stuff out of here.
35:28SPEAKERLet's see. Actually, you know, I'm going to read one more screen question from Cake Batter here
35:32SPEAKERcause it's on topic and I'm kind of, I've been thinking about this myself, but haven't looked
35:36SPEAKERinto it much yet. Cake Batter asks, have you, have you color calibrated your monitor? Have you ever,
35:41SPEAKERI used to have to at the magazine because we, we would do proofs on them. Oh, interesting. Yeah.
35:47SPEAKERI have a color calibrator someplace. It hasn't, I, yeah. It's just a little, huh? You do. It's a,
35:55SPEAKERI have no, I, if you put a gun at my head and told me to find it, I probably could not find it.
36:00SPEAKERIt's fine. I might've actually given it back to Norm when I left tested when I think about it,
36:03SPEAKERbut it was, it's just a little thing. You suction cup onto your screen in a specific spot and then
36:08SPEAKERyou run a piece of software. I, it was good for doing when we were working on stuff that was paper
36:16SPEAKERand needed to be color accurate because then we knew exactly what it was going to look like as
36:20SPEAKERclose as you can get between emissive and reflective surfaces. I don't find it important.
36:27SPEAKERLike most monitors seem to have color profiles built in these days. So it hasn't been an issue.
36:32SPEAKERYeah. Monitors and TVs like that was, you know, in, in looking at all the Artings,
36:36SPEAKERTV reviews, like they go, they go very hard on color accuracy. Well, I guess most TVD
36:40SPEAKERreviews do. Yeah. And they talk about like, like I think they said, my, my model was like 80
36:46SPEAKERsomething percent accurate out of the box. And so far I've just lived with that. Like I've been,
36:50SPEAKERI've been staring at the calibration menu since I got it going, like, should I try to figure out
36:54SPEAKERthe white ballots here? Should I actually worry about the colors or should just leave it where
36:58SPEAKERit is? I don't know. So like I'm looking at a white, like one of the ways you can tell if your
37:03SPEAKERmonitor's calibrated pretty well, if you have two monitors is by putting a white window and span,
37:10SPEAKERspan both of them and see if one looks like a different color white than the others.
37:14SPEAKERI was just doing that because I have two identical monitors. They're both 27 inch
37:18SPEAKERASUS monitors here. And yes, yes, white, pure white looks pretty different across the two,
37:24SPEAKERlike at the exact same color and brightness settings. The color temperature is different.
37:28SPEAKERLike the brightness is slightly different. I have two different monitors and I'm my bottom monitor
37:33SPEAKERis a little warmer. I honestly, like none of this matters if you turn on the thing that makes the
37:39SPEAKERmonitor more warm at night and all those like, like there's a whole bunch of stuff that it
37:43SPEAKERdoesn't matter. The other thing about color calibration that most people don't know is that
37:46SPEAKERyou have to keep the room lighting the same. When you do that, if you want it to be actually
37:49SPEAKERaccurate, like, like there's a bunch of like, it's, it's basically, unless you're going to
37:55SPEAKERdo all the other bullshit to make, make it work, right. It's kind of a placebo thing for the most
37:59SPEAKERpart or, or if it makes you crazy. Yeah. I think I'll probably just let it ride quite frankly.
38:04SPEAKERYeah. I was gonna say also probably color calibrators are like $20 on Amazon. The one
38:08SPEAKERthat we had was 300 bucks. Yeah. See, I assumed that it was like very well, actually I'll go back
38:13SPEAKEReven further. I was thinking back to the days when you kind of like had to hire a professional
38:16SPEAKERto come in and calibrate your TV, or maybe that was only something that rich people do.
38:21SPEAKERNo, no, you can always get the home service tech to come do that. We did a story about that at
38:25SPEAKERMaximum PC once. It was, it was fine. It didn't, one person could tell a different way. Like we
38:34SPEAKERdid an AB where we had two identical mod TV set up and had them calibrate one and left the other
38:40SPEAKERthe same. And most people preferred the one that was set up to the showroom mode. Interesting.
38:44SPEAKERYeah. I could see it. I could see it. So then it looks like they're like 50 bucks.
38:49SPEAKERI don't, I don't think I care that much. The handheld one is 250.
38:54SPEAKERI've kind of, I've kind of always leaned toward, does it look good to me? Does it not look weird?
38:58SPEAKERThat's probably fine. I think of the data color spider, which is the one I used to have is still
39:01SPEAKERthe gold standard. It looks like, Oh, spider 10 pro. Why would you name your product spider?
39:08SPEAKERIt's S P Y D E R cause you're spying on the colors. Still look, man, I'm, I'm bad at naming stuff.
39:15SPEAKERFair. Fair. All right. Here's a, here's a good question from beware of the leopard.
39:20SPEAKERIs it crazy to still not trust devices like phones and laptops with my fingerprints?
39:28SPEAKERThat's a complicated question. Yeah. I assume it's even more complicated by which device
39:33SPEAKERyou're talking about. Cause I'm sure different manufacturers have different levels of
39:39SPEAKERbuttoned up security. Yeah. I mean like that, for example, the Apple stuff, all the biometric stuff
39:44SPEAKERlives on the device and doesn't get shared up upstream to the cloud. Yeah. And in fact,
39:48SPEAKERit lives in that secure enclave that they built in that like basically assuming everything works
39:53SPEAKERright. I guess any, any barrier can be breached in the right or wrong circumstances, but
39:59SPEAKERtheoretically the data like your health and biometric stuff on Apple devices,
40:03SPEAKERisn't even accessible by the rest of the system. Yeah. Generally the the fingerprint thing, like I,
40:10SPEAKERI always, I don't know. I like, I get why people are considered this highly proprietary personal
40:15SPEAKERinformation. Cause it is. Yeah. But at the same time, if you traverse the real world and you don't
40:20SPEAKERwear gloves all the time, it is really easy to like, you're leaving fingerprints everywhere,
40:24SPEAKERevery single day, everywhere you go. Sure. But they're, but they're not as easily tied
40:28SPEAKERto your identity as they are when they come off of your device. Well, I like, I would argue that
40:34SPEAKERit's probably easier for me to follow you and watch you open your front door and pick, lift the
40:41SPEAKERfingerprint off of your front door than it is for me to get a fingerprint off of your device, even
40:46SPEAKERwith a subpoena. Right. Probably. It's honestly, and if it's, you're talking about law enforcement,
40:52SPEAKERit's easier for the law enforcement to literally arrest you and compel you to give a fingerprint
40:57SPEAKERwhen you're, when you're booked than it is to get the fingerprint off of the device. So I'm,
41:02SPEAKERI'm not super, like I don't, I don't find myself super concerned about that stuff. Sure.
41:09SPEAKERYeah. I don't know. I don't think it's crazy. I don't, I don't, like I said, I get it. I just,
41:16SPEAKERit's not something I worry about. Yeah. There's only, there's only one way to be sure if you're
41:19SPEAKERworried about it, then the only way to be sure is not putting them on there in the first place. Or
41:23SPEAKERyou could cut off the tips of your fingers. 10 little steps. You could do that. I think,
41:29SPEAKERI think, I think the professionals just burn off the fingerprints. No, no, no. It turns out
41:34SPEAKERyou, I learned this at the, at the, at the FBI museum. If you, if you try to remove your
41:41SPEAKERfingerprints by filing, sanding or burning, you just leave yourself with a much more identifiable,
41:47SPEAKERdistinct fingerprint than you would if you had a fingerprint that was a normalized fingerprint.
41:51SPEAKERSome kind of unique scar tissue pattern or something like John Dillinger acid in his
41:56SPEAKERfingerprints off or something and was notorious for being easy to tell his fingerprints because
42:00SPEAKERhe still left and they were just real janky looking criminals never win. It can't beat the
42:06SPEAKERFBI. That's yeah. Let's see here. Question from hashtag two emojis that must be bunny
42:17SPEAKERfiend or bunny crimes. Should I trade my double wide 42 U rack for a commercial pizza oven?
42:25SPEAKERThat is perhaps the most tech pod asked question I have ever heard. Also, do they make, they make
42:30SPEAKERdouble wide racks? Yeah. Cause you could like, yeah, that you can, it's not, it's two 42 U racks
42:38SPEAKERstuck side by side to each other. I'm looking at a picture. It is literally just. It's not,
42:42SPEAKERit's not an 84 wide single, single width. Yes. Well, the 42 is the vertical number of mounts, but
42:53SPEAKERyeah. So you're right. You're right. There's a divider in the middle. So yeah, man,
42:56SPEAKERI'm going to argue. I thought I wanted a regular 42 U rack. Now I need a double wide.
43:01SPEAKERI'm going to suggest that you can pile your computers on top of each other without a rack,
43:06SPEAKERbut you can't make a pizza in a 42 U. Well, you rack. Okay. Somebody has to have made a rackable
43:14SPEAKERpizza oven. It would be so fucking hot. Yeah. That would be pretty. It's like you want the pizza oven
43:19SPEAKERto be 500, 600 degrees Fahrenheit. It's going to be that you don't, you don't want your hard drives
43:24SPEAKERnext to that. It's too hot. You don't, you don't man. I don't know. I mean, yeah, that is, yes,
43:30SPEAKERthat is, that is the rational response here. I remember at some point in the past I want to say
43:36SPEAKERit was Jimmy Kimmel, but it was one of the late night hosts was doing a tour of their house and
43:40SPEAKERyou got to the kitchen and he had just a full ass like pizzeria style six foot wide pizza oven in
43:48SPEAKERthere. And I have never, like, it was the first time that I was like, you know, maybe being,
43:53SPEAKERmaybe being super wealthy would have some, some positive side effects. Yeah. I would,
44:00SPEAKERI would totally do the pizza oven. Yeah. I guess like, yeah, I guess.
44:04SPEAKERLook, I'm living just fine without a rack right now, Brad.
44:06SPEAKERYeah. Yeah. I mean, that was, that occurred to me as I was doing this NAS kind of transfer
44:12SPEAKERto a new case, you know, I was like, I'm doing all this work to move it into this bigger case,
44:15SPEAKERbut like the second I could get a rack, I would probably just want to get a rackable case. Right.
44:19SPEAKERAnd I'm actually going to use this, but then you can get, I assume you can just get shelves for
44:24SPEAKERracks. Right. You can just get like a nice sturdy shelf to put on the bottom mount and like pile
44:29SPEAKERthings on that. Yeah. Cause like, like you think about like routers and stuff like that, that maybe
44:33SPEAKERdon't have wings. Right. I have a rackable Silverstone case in the garage someplace,
44:39SPEAKERbut, but the problem is like, it was not, they don't have enough. It's like, it's like the size
44:44SPEAKERof the the, the, what was the video thing that we used at whiskey? Tricaster. Tricaster. It's not
44:52SPEAKERbig enough to hold all the hard drives I'd want in the NAS probably. Yeah. I think what most people
44:56SPEAKERdo is get a, is that a backplane? I don't know what the term is. Like it's just a giant thing
45:01SPEAKERfull of hard drive bays that you would run. You get something like a, you get something like an
45:06SPEAKERexternal host bus adapter in the actual computer part and just run cables into this backplane that
45:11SPEAKERcan address like 48 hard drives or whatever. So then your NAS is like six U or eight U instead
45:17SPEAKERof four. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. I thought about, so I have this big stump in the backyard
45:23SPEAKERthat was like, it used to be a pine tree that got bores and had to come down and it's the right
45:30SPEAKERheight to put a brick pizza oven on. And the only thing that's stopping me is like a wood-fired
45:36SPEAKERbrick pizza oven. The only thing that's stopping me is I'm a little hesitant to do a wood-fired
45:40SPEAKERpizza oven given our fire situation here and how dry it is most of the year. Cause there's a little
45:45SPEAKERbit of a little bit of ash that comes out the top and I don't want to burn the neighborhood down.
45:50SPEAKERYeah. But yeah, that that's, that would be fun. Speaking of speaking of filled trees and stumps,
45:57SPEAKERdid you see this, this legendary tree in the UK got cut down by a vandal?
46:03SPEAKERThat kid, they should just encase him in Lucite and put him on the place where the tree used to be.
46:09SPEAKERAnd I had never heard of that tree before, but it was certainly a striking, striking scene.
46:15SPEAKERIt was a nice looking tree. It didn't deserve what happened to it.
46:17SPEAKERAlso, apparently that tree is like 300 years old.
46:20SPEAKERYeah. Well, big trees, it turns out pretty old, especially Sycamore, an old classic tree.
46:25SPEAKERYes. Okay. I had a question and I've lost it. How fast can I find it again?
46:34SPEAKERDo you want to do this grant question? This is a good one.
46:37SPEAKERI think it's the one I was going to do actually. I scrolled away from it. Here we go.
46:41SPEAKERGrant asks, why is unity unpopular among Will's people these days? My son is trying to make games
46:48SPEAKERand has been doing it in unity so far. If it's on the downswing, I might suggest he learned
46:52SPEAKERsomething else. I assume, I assume he's asking not in the context of unity's shit policy decisions,
46:59SPEAKERbut more of the actual software engine tool itself. I think it's both. I mean,
47:03SPEAKERI don't think you can extricate one from the other because like, like, okay. So if,
47:09SPEAKERif you're learning, it's one thing if you're learning, you want to use the tools that people
47:13SPEAKERare going to be using when you, like, I guess when you're a kid and you're learning, it's there's
47:18SPEAKERdifferent ways to learn, right? Like if you're learning, you want to go work in the games
47:20SPEAKERindustry, you learn something that is going to be a viable skill that people will hire you.
47:25SPEAKERSo you don't like, you don't want to go learn game maker when nobody who's making
47:28SPEAKERcommercial games is using game maker to make games. That's like a hobbyist slash
47:32SPEAKERindie first time thing, right? Unity for a long time was where people went to make indie games,
47:40SPEAKERright? And there's a lot of YouTube nonsense where people are like, this is the unity look,
47:44SPEAKERblah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But those people are dipshits and don't know what they're talking
47:47SPEAKERabout for the most part, what they're conflating, like using the stock lighting model or whatever
47:52SPEAKERwith, with with like an entire framework for making games. The problem with unity for commercial
48:00SPEAKERstuff right now is that their, their business terms are in flux in a way that makes me not want
48:07SPEAKERto invest hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars in a project on that platform.
48:12SPEAKERYeah, that's, that's for sure. Even though, I mean, it seems like this walk back was pretty
48:15SPEAKERwidely accepted. It's still, but it's still like the damage is done. Yeah. They fucked up beyond
48:19SPEAKERall recognition and like nobody who, nobody who's looking at engines to make their next game should
48:25SPEAKERbe looking at unity at this point, which bums me out. Cause unity like there was fairly priced and
48:30SPEAKERit was a good product for a long time. Common sentiment I saw in the wake of the shitty policy
48:36SPEAKERrollout was a bunch of people who use unity saying like, Hey, part of the reason this sucks
48:40SPEAKERso much is because I like working with unity. Like here are five reasons why I think it's a
48:44SPEAKERgood engine and, and, and quite, you know, streamlined for the type of development we do
48:50SPEAKERand, you know, X, Y, and Z, like a fair number of people, like pretty happy with the actual product.
48:55SPEAKERWe built foo on unity because their networking stack was easier to use. And they had actually,
49:00SPEAKERthey had more robust plugins for networking than, than unreal had at the time. If you're learning
49:06SPEAKERthese days, I would, I mean, you can, you can sign up for an unreal developer account. It doesn't cost
49:11SPEAKERanything either. You can download all of these, but it kind of depends on what they want to do,
49:16SPEAKERright? If they want to make 2d games, there's better tools for that. If they want to make 3d
49:20SPEAKERgames, unreal is, is pretty amazing. Like a stock unreal five project with the shooter,
49:27SPEAKERthe shooter base project in it. Like you can have an open world going with trees and plants and
49:33SPEAKERcliffs and the whole thing where you're sculpting the world and you build a, you you're running
49:38SPEAKERaround with the stock guy shooting at boxes in like three hours. The the one thing I will say
49:47SPEAKERis I, I think if I was a kid starting out and learning like five years ago, I wouldn't have
49:53SPEAKERsaid, Hey, use blender, learn how to use blender to make your 3d assets these days. Blender is
49:58SPEAKERpretty viable. And like Godot is in a, like, I think that the unity stuff is going to push Godot
50:05SPEAKERto a place where the open source the open source, the virtuous open source loop is kind of ticking
50:12SPEAKERover in a really good way for them. So sure, sure. I'm in, I'm excited about it. And then unreal,
50:18SPEAKEREpic and unreal wasted zero time squandering the perhaps undeserved good will that they got from
50:24SPEAKERthe unity for fuffle. Cause like a week after everybody was like, well, you unreal as decent
50:29SPEAKERterms and as easy enough to work with, like maybe check that out. And then they laid off 800 people
50:35SPEAKERoops. Well, I mean, I think my takeaway from the unity thing honestly is all of these contracts
50:41SPEAKERwe've for shrink wrap licenses, we've changed, we've signed for the last three decades have
50:47SPEAKERsaid we can change the terms. We reserve the right to change the terms of this agreement at any time.
50:51SPEAKERAnd up until this point, nobody's really done it in a, in a hyper damaging way like this. Cause
50:55SPEAKERthey're like, people will be pissed off at us. We can't do that. Unity tested the waters and,
51:01SPEAKERand other people took note, I assure you. So like at that point, the only defense against bad shrink
51:08SPEAKERwrap license terms is, Hey, you know, we'll just use the open source thing. So I like, I think,
51:18SPEAKERI think that we might see a swing back in the other direction from, from using these prepackaged
51:24SPEAKERthings. So the thing you lose when you go to Godot or something like that is you don't have
51:28SPEAKERthe massive asset stores that are attached to unity and unreal. So like, like, I mean,
51:35SPEAKERthe stuff you can get from the, like I can buy scans of trees to put in an unreal five game
51:43SPEAKERthat I don't have to do anything for. I just scan them and then unreal five kind of munches them
51:47SPEAKERdown to be game friendly. And all of a sudden I placed them into the tree generator and anywhere
51:53SPEAKERthat it's the right altitude range, we'll have these trees added to it. And, and like, you don't
51:57SPEAKERhave that kind of turnkey stuff with Godot at this point. I mean, it'll, it'll come over time,
52:03SPEAKERbut it's not, it's not there right now. So you're going to work slower and maybe the taking on the
52:10SPEAKERlicenses, the risk is worth the, the risk involved with taking on the license is worth the money saved
52:16SPEAKERhaving to build a billion trees yourself. Yes. I have to assume that the virtualized geometry
52:23SPEAKERstuff that Nanite does and UE5 is going to come to every engine eventually in another form,
52:28SPEAKERbut it's probably going to take time. I mean, it'll, it was a big investment on their part.
52:32SPEAKERYeah, absolutely. Like it kind of, kind of in the same way that like mega textures were
52:37SPEAKERa big tech push, you know, and then now everybody uses virtual texturing in some way.
52:42SPEAKERYeah. Something similar. It's yeah, that's more technical than I probably am capable of talking
52:48SPEAKERabout, but I, I am like, I, my, my assumption is that getting that performance on the range
52:55SPEAKERof hardware that Nanite runs on was probably a pretty hard challenge. Oh yeah. Yeah. I don't
52:59SPEAKERmean it'll be anytime soon, like 10 years from now or something. I mean, now it's one of those
53:04SPEAKERthings that now that people know it's possible, somebody else will figure out another way to do
53:07SPEAKERit. Yeah, for sure. That's exactly, that's exactly it. Much, much in the same way that like, I mean,
53:12SPEAKERgoing way back, like it kind of reminds me of like unreal, like quake was this massive leap forward
53:17SPEAKERfor game technology. And then here is unreal two years later doing all the same stuff, right?
53:22SPEAKERYeah. But, but Nanite also, Nanite solves a specific problem that is unique to the unreal
53:27SPEAKERstore where people who can make 3d assets for film, upload them to the unreal store and don't
53:34SPEAKERrealize that you can't have a 32 million triangle fence post. And and, and now, and also this,
53:45SPEAKERI think they built Nanite cause it was easier to do that than say, Hey, this model has 32
53:48SPEAKERmillion triangles on it. You probably shouldn't use it in games in the store.
53:52SPEAKERWhat are the, what are the, just like the basic storage requirements of an extremely high detail
53:56SPEAKERmesh like that? It's just, it's just a couple of megabytes. Okay. So that's not a big deal.
54:01SPEAKERYeah. Cause it's all just, it's all just point data, right? The 3d meshes are just point points
54:06SPEAKERwith connections to other adjoining points. It's triangles, descriptions of triangles in 3d space.
54:12SPEAKERAnd then I, well, whatever, this is probably way over both of our heads. I was just kind
54:17SPEAKERof thinking about what the memory footprint of that sort of thing is, but obviously Nanite,
54:20SPEAKERthat's what they're abstracting. So that's not a problem.
54:22SPEAKERWell, yeah. And, and my understanding is the way it works in unreal. Like I don't,
54:26SPEAKERthe neat thing about it is I don't have to know how this works. Cause you just import the thing
54:29SPEAKERinto unreal and then it generates the asset that works in the game. Right? Like I don't,
54:33SPEAKERI don't know. You don't have to know how it works, but I mean, somebody in our pipeline,
54:38SPEAKERsomebody on our, on our team knows how it works, but it doesn't have to be me. And I can just go
54:42SPEAKERdownload something from Sketchfab and jam it in the game. And it just works.
54:46SPEAKERUnless you have the particular disease of desperately wanting to know how everything works.
54:50SPEAKERI will tell you working in a game for a while will cure you of that because there's an,
54:54SPEAKERit's an infinite number of holes to walk down. Yes. I absolutely understand that. Let's see
55:00SPEAKERa question here from, is this a Finnish first name? Have we, I believe we talked about this
55:06SPEAKERbefore. I never know how to pronounce J's in Finnish. Assuming it is. Oh no, no, that's Swedish.
55:14SPEAKERSorry. I don't know about Finnish. I'm just going to say, I apologize if I really brush up on that
55:19SPEAKERpronunciation. Should I install home assistant on my i7 9,700 cage for an S scale machine that
55:26SPEAKERis currently my NAS and Plex server, or just get a home assistant yellow scale scale scale has good
55:34SPEAKERDocker support. So you absolutely could just get your start, get your feet wet by just going to get
55:39SPEAKERthe home assistant core Docker image and firing it up on your NAS. I play around with it, but then
55:45SPEAKERultimately if you actually want to run home assistant, I mean, everybody's different, but
55:50SPEAKERmy feeling is anything that controls like stuff in your house should run on its own
55:53SPEAKERsmall dedicated hardware that can kind of stay up 24/7. Well, and then the other benefit is that
55:59SPEAKERthere's stuff on the raspberry PI slash home assistant yellow. Home assistant yellow is a box
56:04SPEAKERthat you put a raspberry PI compute module into. And it has the radios and stuff built into the,
56:10SPEAKERinto the box. The, the benefit of running it on the PI is that you get access to the store
56:16SPEAKERand some other stuff. So yeah, it's the software at the software level, the terminology is that's
56:21SPEAKERhome assistant OS and so home assistant OS either it'll takes over your entire PI or yellow or
56:27SPEAKERwhatever you're running it on. And that's the only way to get all the home assistant features, like
56:32SPEAKEReven the Docker image, like the manual install, like I run the Docker image,
56:36SPEAKERanything but home assistant OS is missing certain features.
56:39SPEAKERYeah. And, and the stuff that you're missing is stuff that you're going to get like three,
56:43SPEAKERthree months in and realize you don't have it and be like, Oh, shoot. Yeah. It's easy to migrate
56:49SPEAKERfrom one machine to another as soon as you keep the radios the same. I want to say, I want to say
56:54SPEAKERsome of the export functionality is, is limited to has OS actually, you can, you can easily manually
57:01SPEAKERjust move the dot home assistant directory. Yeah. And to, to migrate if you want, but,
57:06SPEAKERbut the automated backup export stuff I think is limited there. Did you see the home assistant
57:13SPEAKERgreen? They just rolled out. No. What is that? I think it's a maybe less capable piece of hardware.
57:19SPEAKERWell, they had a blue before. Yes. The blue I think was around, I'm not a hundred percent sure
57:24SPEAKERwhat is up with the green. I should have looked that up before this. I think it's cheaper. It's,
57:29SPEAKERit's 99 bucks. I don't know how much the yellow is. 99 bucks. Is it? I wonder, I wonder if the
57:34SPEAKERgreen works out of the box. Maybe you don't have to source your own CM. They sell yellows with and
57:39SPEAKERwithout they only started selling it without the CM because the CMs were hard to get. Okay. It looks
57:44SPEAKERlike, it looks like the green is all integrated. It looks like it has its own Ram and processor
57:48SPEAKERand everything. I don't think you need a- I don't think it's just like soldered onto the board
57:51SPEAKERrather than- I don't think you need a Raspberry Pi compute module at all for the green is my guess.
57:56SPEAKERWe should do a, we should do a home assistant too. Cause a lot of stuff has changed in the
58:00SPEAKERthree years since we talked about home assistant last. Yeah. I've been, I've been thinking about
58:03SPEAKERgrabbing a SkyConnect and maybe a couple of thread bulbs to see if, to see if I can get that working.
58:08SPEAKERYeah. I was going to say the other problem with the home assistant running in a Docker image is
58:14SPEAKERgetting your Linux machine to, if you, if you're using external memory radios, either for ZigBee
58:20SPEAKERor Thread or Z-Wave, it's really challenging to get those to work reliably into the Docker image.
58:26SPEAKERYou have to pass the USB port over and like it's, it's, it's not ideal. You, you really have to know
58:31SPEAKERwhat you're doing working with hardware in Linux, especially if it's containerized, passing those
58:35SPEAKERdevices through from the pseudo file systems. So that's like, yeah, that's a lot of Linux knowledge
58:40SPEAKERyou need. Whereas if you put it on the, like, whereas installing home assistant to a Raspberry
58:44SPEAKERPi, you plug the SD card into your windows or Mac machine, run the Raspberry Pi OS installer,
58:50SPEAKERand then hit the button and you're good to go. Yes. Yes. Which I think is why if I, if I do get
58:55SPEAKERa SkyConnect, I'm probably in for a world of hurt because I am stubborn and don't want to give my
59:00SPEAKERentire Pi over to home assistant. Cause I run other stuff on there, but I'm going to have to
59:04SPEAKERmanually get the SkyConnect working, which is going to be a pain. Just buy a yellow dude. It's
59:08SPEAKERreally a nice piece of hardware. I can do this. I can do this. I mean, you can, but should you?
59:13SPEAKERI do have learned so much doing this. That's true. Okay. Can I shout out this picture that an
59:20SPEAKERunimaginable pseudonym put in of the there's a, it's a, it's a ground level shot from a wet beach
59:28SPEAKERof a little tiny crab holding its fists up and a dachshund just losing its mind at the crab.
59:34SPEAKERThat's terrifying. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I think this should be the show art.
59:39SPEAKERIt's really kind of an ornery. Aren't they? Depends on the, as, as with everything,
59:43SPEAKERit depends on the dog and the owner. Sure. Sure. I've kind of got the impression that they are a
59:48SPEAKERbit though. I had a friend who had a dachshund that was super sweet and was a total like cuddle
59:51SPEAKERdog. Sure. I can see it. All right. Let's do a couple more here very quickly. Oh gosh. I had
1:00:02SPEAKERa couple and I've lost them. Shoeless asks, how do you decide if you're going to be an early
1:00:08SPEAKERadopter of new tech? I think I'm thinking about the point in my life where I don't ever want to
1:00:12SPEAKERbe. I don't think I'm voluntarily going to decide to be an early adopter again. I see. It's funny. I,
1:00:18SPEAKERI've literally never, as in my adult life, I've always had a job that required me to do this.
1:00:25SPEAKERSure. So like when I stopped working at tested, I kind of just stopped buying new things for a long
1:00:30SPEAKERtime. It was nice, but now I kind of miss it. Like, yeah, like, like I almost bought an Apple
1:00:36SPEAKERwatch ultra last year because I was like, I like the form factor and I like the watch as it is.
1:00:40SPEAKERAnd it'll last a while. Cause it has a big giant battery. So I ended up not because it turns out
1:00:44SPEAKERI like $800 more. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm, I'm kinda, I'm just at the point in my life where
1:00:52SPEAKERI just want things to work. So any, any major new thing, like talking about the meteor lake stuff
1:00:57SPEAKERlast week, like you could not pay me to run the first desktop part that uses tiles. No. Just,
1:01:05SPEAKERjust like the first chiplet Ryzen years ago was kind of not great. Yeah. But I mean, it's funny
1:01:11SPEAKERthat stuff that that stuff is, is maybe janky in interesting ways, but like I bought, I ordered
1:01:18SPEAKERthe steam deck basically as soon as I could. And I, my, my steam deck is one of my favorite
1:01:24SPEAKERthings I've bought in the last five years. Right. I use it all. I was playing Hades on it last night.
1:01:28SPEAKERSure. It's, it's a, it's a remarkable and it's, it was remarkable. The software was a little bit
1:01:35SPEAKERjanky when it launched. It gets better every time because Valve has been doing good work on those
1:01:39SPEAKERreleases, but it's it doesn't, I guess the things that I early adopter, the things that I'm confident
1:01:46SPEAKERaren't going to have early adopter problems. Like your meteor lake example is a good one. I would
1:01:51SPEAKERnot buy, I'm like, I'm glad I bought a 1300. I got a 1300 nine because I'm 13,900 K because I'm not
1:01:57SPEAKERgoing to upgrade to Intel next year or maybe the year after until they kind of work out the initial
1:02:03SPEAKERkinks on this new stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I was skittish about getting this split VCash Ryzen. It's mostly
1:02:10SPEAKERbeen fine, honestly. I haven't, I haven't, I haven't had really any like, like breaking issues.
1:02:14SPEAKERI've had some minor annoyances, but but also like, I don't even like, I haven't even installed iOS
1:02:22SPEAKER17 yet. I usually wait for the first minor version of really still iOS. Like I'll wait until 17.1
1:02:28SPEAKERprobably. Wow. It's it's it's I found that iOS, since they started doing the public betas has
1:02:35SPEAKERreleased the point zeros have been really solid. It probably is fine, but it's also, it's kind of
1:02:41SPEAKERlike windows 11 of just like, eh, like I just, what I have is working fine. I'll get around to it
1:02:45SPEAKEReventually. Yeah. I see. I think that I, well, anyway, yeah, I get that. I think the iOS is they
1:02:50SPEAKERdo meaningful improvements every year. Whereas windows 11 was just kind of, Hey, we got to,
1:02:56SPEAKERwe got to juice the numbers. Part of, part of the reason I'm avoiding it is because I think that'll
1:03:01SPEAKERalso enable the watchOS upgrade. And they made a apparently very crappy change to watch faces that
1:03:06SPEAKERI don't want to deal with. What was the change? You can't just swipe between watch faces anymore
1:03:10SPEAKERon the watch. You have to, there's like a press and hold thing. That's the, it's funny. That's
1:03:15SPEAKERthe way it used to be. Yeah. I think that's what I read that they changed it back, but I saw a lot
1:03:19SPEAKERof people complaining that it's a pain to change watch faces now, which I use pretty frequently.
1:03:24SPEAKERSee, I actively liked the push and hold because I accidentally switched to watch faces. And when
1:03:29SPEAKERyou switch watch faces, it changes the focus mode to be it on the one that the watch face is attached
1:03:34SPEAKERto. So it was a bad change for you. It was a good change for me. Well, congratulations. All right.
1:03:43SPEAKERLast question from Andreas 3000. Are there plans for a t-shirt run people? Sorry. Are there plans
1:03:52SPEAKERfor a t-shirt run purple shirt with the yellow typeface is my vote. I haven't talked about a
1:04:00SPEAKERt-shirt. We talked about it like three years ago and then didn't do anything. Yeah. I would be
1:04:04SPEAKERcurious to take the temperature of the audience because t-shirts like t-shirts are a thing that
1:04:10SPEAKERlike, we're not going to like, we don't make money on t-shirts are expensive to make and
1:04:14SPEAKERthey're kind of a pain in the ass. So it's not like we make a bunch of money on them or anything.
1:04:17SPEAKERYeah. They're not a high margin business. And I can tell you
1:04:20SPEAKERmerch requires a fair amount of work, like fair amount of management.
1:04:24SPEAKERYeah. So like if we did it, it would be a one-off where you could, I mean, I guess,
1:04:29SPEAKERI guess we could put up, put it up on like a cotton Bureau store or something like that and
1:04:32SPEAKERjust charge cost for it. But then they'd be expected to be like 25 or 30 bucks.
1:04:38SPEAKERLike I, so, okay. Two things. I hate selling cheap t-shirts that look like shit after you
1:04:44SPEAKERwash them three times. Yes, absolutely.
1:04:46SPEAKERLike, like this is why giant bomb and tested merch in the old days was always expensive is because
1:04:51SPEAKERboth Jeff and Ryan and you and I and norm and everyone involved with those decisions was like,
1:04:57SPEAKERno, we're not selling shitty cafe, press shirts that have iron-ons on them that when you watch
1:05:01SPEAKERthem three times, look like, look like they've been through the garbage. So that means it's,
1:05:06SPEAKERthe shirts are going to be expensive. Yeah. Funny, funny how that attitude can
1:05:10SPEAKERchange when you get into a larger organization. Well, I think your leverage to complain and keep
1:05:16SPEAKERit from happening probably went away. But anyway, so I don't know if people want shirts, we'll make
1:05:23SPEAKERshirts, let us know in the, in the thread on the discord, I guess, or send an email.
1:05:27SPEAKERYou know, it's a granted, I think you, you did the complimentary colors thing, right? Like yellow
1:05:33SPEAKERand purple naturally go together. Yeah. But, but it, but it's a pretty striking design. I think
1:05:38SPEAKERactually, I mean, I think it would be a fun T like how big would, I can't even know how big to make
1:05:43SPEAKERthat. Is it an enormous, is it, do we make it look like the, like the podcast art? Do we does
1:05:48SPEAKERit even say tech pod, I guess for like branding and recognition made a tech pod. Yeah. I think,
1:05:52SPEAKERI think it would be funnier if you could use that generator to make your own, but that's a whole
1:05:56SPEAKERseparate, that is a whole different thing. I mean, I, I still like the idea of the sweatpants
1:06:01SPEAKERthat have tech and pod on each cheek, but I couldn't find anybody to make those. I would
1:06:08SPEAKERhave made those just so I could have had them. And the purple mugs, it turns out are impossible.
1:06:13SPEAKERNobody makes purple mugs. So, you know, there's a lot of purple sweatpants out there. A lot of
1:06:17SPEAKERpurple sweatpants, but nobody does applique for that many. It's too many letters. Maybe this is
1:06:22SPEAKERa whole new, whole new business opportunity. We could, waiting to happen. We could do,
1:06:26SPEAKERif we had rebranded to tech with a K we could do tech pod. I think three letters is the most you
1:06:30SPEAKERcan applique on a sweatpants ass. Now we're talking. Now we're talking. Us and William
1:06:34SPEAKERShatner spelling tech with a K. I don't want to be associated with William Shatner, please.
1:06:39SPEAKERMaybe not. Maybe not. All right. All right. I'm calling it on the questions.
1:06:43SPEAKEROkay. So that's September. We have an overrun. We had a bunch of good questions. We might do
1:06:46SPEAKERsome more questions on the patron episode later this week or earlier this week for listening now.
1:06:51SPEAKERThis is going up. Yeah. The patron episode should be up by the time you, Oh God,
1:06:56SPEAKERwe have to get that done. Yeah. No, I know.
1:06:59SPEAKERHey, let's do that tomorrow. Uh, okay. Uh, let's, uh, right now though,
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1:07:20SPEAKERmy man. I don't, I don't want to have to talk about do you like mattresses? Nobody wants a
1:07:23SPEAKERmattress at the end of the day. I want one. Yeah. I'd probably be fine. I'd sleep on the floor.
1:07:29SPEAKERYou'd be stiff for a week or two, and then you get used to it. Uh, but, but, uh, if you would
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1:07:52SPEAKERthe patrons. Uh, you can get access to the, uh, to the, uh, cornucopia of information. That is
1:08:00SPEAKERthe tech pod discord, which is where I learned about the tree that got cut down in Sheffield,
1:08:03SPEAKEREngland. Um, you can, it's a sycamore. I believe it is. Yeah. William Wallace planted it is my
1:08:09SPEAKERunderstanding. I don't think that's actually true, but it's on Hadrian's wall. So he could have, um,
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