172: Orange Ricky & Smashboy

00:00SPEAKER- How much do you know about the history of Tetris?

00:02SPEAKER- Well, I mean, there's like the four or five blocks.

00:05SPEAKERThey go up and down.

00:06SPEAKERIt first came out on the Game Boy.

00:08SPEAKER- They go up?

00:09SPEAKERWhat the hell Tetris are you playing?

00:11SPEAKER- It's not that you press up to make them go down.

00:13SPEAKERThat's the thing I know.

00:16SPEAKERYeah, that Daft Punk song,

00:17SPEAKERI was pretty sure was about Tetris.

00:18SPEAKERYou gotta get up to get down.

00:19SPEAKER- You gotta press up to go down.

00:20SPEAKEREverybody knows that.

00:21SPEAKER- I know it's Russian.

00:23SPEAKERAnd I know that the NES cartridge

00:26SPEAKERwas like a bootleg non-officially published by Nintendo one.

00:31SPEAKERAnd I'm sure there's some drama there,

00:32SPEAKERbut that's pretty much it.

00:33SPEAKER- Well, there's two of them.

00:34SPEAKERThere was the official,

00:35SPEAKERNintendo put out an official Tetris themselves.

00:37SPEAKER- Really?

00:38SPEAKER- Oh yeah.

00:39SPEAKER- That 10-10 one wasn't the only one?

00:40SPEAKER- The 10-10 one was the bootleg one,

00:43SPEAKERor not bootleg, unlicensed is the term.

00:46SPEAKER- Yeah, it did not have the Nintendo seal of approval.

00:48SPEAKER- Yeah, it did not have the seal of quality on it,

00:50SPEAKERwhich, you know, seal of quality

00:52SPEAKERmaybe doesn't mean today what it did then.

00:54SPEAKER- Look, when I was 10 years old,

00:57SPEAKERthere was nothing in my life more important

00:59SPEAKERthan that seal of quality.

01:00SPEAKER- Yeah, no, the Nintendo Tetris

01:03SPEAKERthat has "Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairies"

01:04SPEAKERas the background music, you never play that one?

01:07SPEAKER- I do.

01:08SPEAKERI mean, I played on a Game Boy.

01:09SPEAKER- Well, that's the Game Boy version.

01:10SPEAKERThe Game Boy version is its own thing.

01:11SPEAKERThe NES Tetris is...

01:12SPEAKERThe NES Tetris had no two-player.

01:14SPEAKERIt was just single-player Tetris.

01:15SPEAKERLike, there was not much there, but it had good music.

01:17SPEAKER- I do not believe that I ever played the Nintendo.

01:21SPEAKERThe Tetris I played always had the weird black cartridge.

01:25SPEAKER- So you had the Tengen one then.

01:26SPEAKER- I did not have it,

01:27SPEAKERbut my friend who I played Tetris with had it, yeah.

01:29SPEAKER- Man, dude, the history of the NES

01:32SPEAKERand perhaps the history of video games

01:34SPEAKERwould have been so much crazier

01:35SPEAKERif Tengen had won that lawsuit.

01:37SPEAKER- Right?

01:38SPEAKER'Cause then everybody would just be publishing games

01:39SPEAKERfor every platform with no...

01:41SPEAKERYeah.

01:42SPEAKER- If the legal precedent had been

01:43SPEAKERyou can just make games for a console

01:45SPEAKERwithout the approval of the console maker, like what?

01:48SPEAKER- Well, it would have been real weird until about 2000

01:50SPEAKERwhen the encryption got good enough

01:51SPEAKERthat they were never going to bypass it

01:54SPEAKERunless somebody made a mistake.

01:55SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway.

01:56SPEAKER- So what's up with Tetris?

01:57SPEAKERIs that movie real?

01:58SPEAKERI saw that trailer and I was like,

01:59SPEAKER"What the hell is going on with this?

02:00SPEAKERIs this a true story?"

02:02SPEAKER- That's what I was going to ask

02:03SPEAKERif you were aware that the history of Tetris

02:05SPEAKERincluded some taught spy caper.

02:07SPEAKER- No, no, I didn't know that.

02:10SPEAKER- I don't know how embellished it is.

02:11SPEAKERI'm guessing at least a little bit, probably a lot.

02:14SPEAKER- I am intrigued.

02:16SPEAKERIt's coming to Apple TV, I think next month, that movie.

02:19SPEAKERSo we don't have to wait very long.

02:20SPEAKER- Yeah, I guess we should say there is a movie called,

02:23SPEAKERI believe it's just entitled "Tetris," correct?

02:25SPEAKER- It is called "Tetris."

02:26SPEAKERI thought it was going to be about the blocks,

02:28SPEAKERlike the drama between...

02:31SPEAKERAlso, did you know that the Tetris blocks have names?

02:36SPEAKER- Long and T?

02:38SPEAKER- No, no, no, no, no, no.

02:40SPEAKERIn the NES Tetris manual, they gave them names.

02:45SPEAKER- Okay, go on.

02:48SPEAKER- Orange is called Ricky.

02:53SPEAKERBlue is also called Ricky.

02:55SPEAKERThe straight line is Hero.

02:57SPEAKERThe plus, the T is Tiwi.

02:59SPEAKERThe square is Smash Boy.

03:01SPEAKEROne is Cleveland Z, is the left-facing, is the Z.

03:06SPEAKER- Are you talking?

03:07SPEAKERI know it's early in the morning here,

03:09SPEAKERbut are you fully awake?

03:10SPEAKER- Yeah, look, I'm not having a stroke or anything.

03:14SPEAKERI saw this on the internet, so it has to be true.

03:15SPEAKERThat's how this works, right?

03:17SPEAKER- Apparently, in 2019, this was a Jeopardy question,

03:20SPEAKERor a Jeopardy answer, I should say.

03:22SPEAKER- Wow.

03:23SPEAKER- The seven rotatable blocks used in this video game

03:25SPEAKERhave names like Orange Ricky, Hero, and Smash Boy.

03:29SPEAKER- Yeah, that's it.

03:31SPEAKER- Boy, have I never been more excited

03:34SPEAKERfor an episode title than this.

03:36SPEAKER(laughing)

03:38SPEAKER- I'm really excited to see

03:39SPEAKERwhether you go with Orange Ricky or Smash Boy,

03:41SPEAKERto be honest.

03:41SPEAKER- Dude, how about both?

03:43SPEAKER- When Orange Ricky meets Smash Boy?

03:45SPEAKER- I don't know what is up with that movie.

03:49SPEAKERWho is the American dude?

03:51SPEAKERIs that--

03:52SPEAKER- Taron Egerton?

03:53SPEAKER- No, no, no, I mean the character,

03:54SPEAKERlike the real-life figure.

03:55SPEAKER- Steve Tetris, yeah.

03:56SPEAKER- Steve Tetris, of course.

03:58SPEAKER- Yeah, Steve Tetris.

04:00SPEAKER- I barely know the lineage.

04:01SPEAKERI mean, I know, obviously, Alexei Pajitnov made,

04:04SPEAKERcreated the game, but that was still in the Soviet Union,

04:07SPEAKERso I don't know if, I don't know.

04:09SPEAKERThe movie will come out.

04:10SPEAKERMy very, very loose understanding

04:12SPEAKERis he did not benefit from that game for a while.

04:15SPEAKER- Or, yeah, for a really long time.

04:17SPEAKER- But I think he's, I think things are good now.

04:20SPEAKER- This is a Matthew Vaughn joint.

04:22SPEAKERMatthew Vaughn famously makes Kingsman.

04:25SPEAKERHe has a friend who has a lot of money

04:27SPEAKERwho finances his movies,

04:28SPEAKERso he doesn't take notes from the studio at all.

04:31SPEAKERI don't know if this is done under that same deal,

04:35SPEAKERbut Apple TV, the press release that they said,

04:39SPEAKERthis is what they say,

04:40SPEAKER"Tetris tells the unbelievable story

04:43SPEAKERof how one of the world's most popular video games

04:45SPEAKERfound its way to avid players around the globe.

04:47SPEAKERHank Rogers, H-E-N-K, discovers Tetris in 1988,

04:52SPEAKERthen risks everything by traveling to the Soviet Union,

04:55SPEAKERwhere he joins voices with inventor Alexei Pajitnov

04:58SPEAKERto bring the game to the masses.

04:59SPEAKERBased on a true story, Tetris is a Cold War era thriller

05:02SPEAKERon steroids with double-crossing villains,

05:04SPEAKERunlikely heroes, and a nail-biting race to the finish."

05:08SPEAKER- Okay, you know what?

05:09SPEAKERI'm just gonna say the words "Tetris thriller,"

05:11SPEAKERand then I think we just have to end this cold open.

05:13SPEAKER(laughing)

05:14SPEAKER(upbeat music)

05:39SPEAKER(upbeat music)

05:43SPEAKER- Welcome to "Brad and Will Made a Tech Bot."

05:45SPEAKERI'm Will.

05:46SPEAKER- I'm Brad.

05:46SPEAKER- I am, I can't get this out of my head, Brad, Smash Boy.

05:50SPEAKER- Smash Boy.

05:51SPEAKER- In another world, imagine if once upon a time,

05:55SPEAKERa young group of men were playing,

05:58SPEAKERreading the Tetris manual, and were like,

05:59SPEAKER"Man, this would be a great name for a band, Smash Boy."

06:03SPEAKER- It's not bad.

06:03SPEAKER- And then like, "Hey, Now I'm an All-Star,"

06:05SPEAKERwas written by Smash Boy instead of Smash Mouth.

06:08SPEAKER- Honestly, Orange Ricky, not a bad band name either.

06:11SPEAKER- Orange Ricky, pretty good.

06:13SPEAKERHow are you doing this week?

06:14SPEAKER- I'm doing fair to well, how are you?

06:18SPEAKER- I would, I gotta say, Brad,

06:20SPEAKERall of the games that I like playing

06:22SPEAKERhave gotten very hard this week

06:24SPEAKERfor reasons that are unclear to me, and I don't exactly.

06:27SPEAKERThe meta has shifted,

06:29SPEAKERand Fortnite has become very, very sweaty,

06:31SPEAKERand also Warzone DMZ has gotten very, very sweaty,

06:35SPEAKERand I don't, like, Warzone DMZ is a game

06:37SPEAKERthat you mostly play against computers,

06:38SPEAKERso it shouldn't have gotten, like, they made it sweaty.

06:41SPEAKERIt doesn't have to be sweaty, I'm so scared,

06:43SPEAKERbut other than that, I'm fine.

06:44SPEAKER- You want sweat, you should check out Marauders.

06:46SPEAKER- We tried Marauders, we played Marauders

06:48SPEAKERat work a few weeks ago.

06:50SPEAKEROh, no, we haven't played that yet.

06:51SPEAKERWe bought it, but we haven't played it yet.

06:52SPEAKER- Marauders is some shit.

06:55SPEAKER- Is it good?

06:56SPEAKER- It is, it's very cool, I like it a lot.

06:59SPEAKERIt's brutal.

07:01SPEAKER- It's like a space extraction thing, right?

07:03SPEAKERYou break into a spaceship and then you have to fly out,

07:05SPEAKERlike Tarkov style?

07:06SPEAKER- It's full on Tarkov DMZ extraction style thing,

07:10SPEAKERexcept you start in a spaceship.

07:11SPEAKERThere's a little bit of, like, a sea of thieves to it,

07:13SPEAKER'cause everybody starts on the map in their own ship

07:16SPEAKERand there are different things to man on the ship

07:18SPEAKERor to pilot, you know, like somebody's gotta fly the ship,

07:21SPEAKERsomebody's gotta man the turrets,

07:22SPEAKERsomebody's gotta, like, deal with engine problems

07:23SPEAKERwhen they arise.

07:24SPEAKERYou can bail out in an escape pod

07:27SPEAKERand crash into somebody else's ship and board them.

07:29SPEAKER- What?

07:30SPEAKER- But then everybody is racing to get on, like,

07:32SPEAKERthe big space station, so once you're all on there,

07:35SPEAKERthen it's a bunch of PvE, VP stuff.

07:37SPEAKER- When you extract, you don't go back home

07:39SPEAKERand take your stuff with you, you go to another ship?

07:41SPEAKEROr is it like you bounce from ship to ship?

07:43SPEAKER- You get back on your ship and exit the map, basically.

07:47SPEAKERBut your ship can be destroyed, ships are expendable,

07:50SPEAKERlike you can get better ships than the default one,

07:52SPEAKERbut then they can be destroyed or taken from you.

07:55SPEAKER- Wow.

07:56SPEAKER- The time to kill is just brutally short.

07:58SPEAKER- Okay, I like all of this so far.

08:00SPEAKER- It's very cool.

08:02SPEAKERI think you really have to have a masochistic streak

08:04SPEAKERto enjoy it, though.

08:05SPEAKER- Yeah.

08:06SPEAKER- Which I definitely do.

08:07SPEAKER- Did you play Dark and Darker during the Next Fest?

08:10SPEAKER- No, we were hoping to do that,

08:12SPEAKERand then we were not all there for the stream that week,

08:15SPEAKERbut we'll get back to it.

08:17SPEAKER- It's the same kind of thing, but medieval.

08:21SPEAKERIt is real early, though, I would say.

08:23SPEAKER- Okay, I really wanted to try.

08:25SPEAKERIt was the number one game on the Steam Next Fest.

08:27SPEAKERI really wanted to try it.

08:29SPEAKER- I have friends on my Steam friends list

08:32SPEAKERwho put like 30, 40 hours into it over the weekend.

08:35SPEAKERI'm like, damn, that's got its hooks.

08:37SPEAKERI played it a little bit.

08:38SPEAKERIt is really, they made some really weird choices.

08:42SPEAKERIt's really neat, it's really hard, it's very scary.

08:46SPEAKERThe fact that every player on your team

08:49SPEAKERhas to find a different portal to escape from

08:51SPEAKERis a really interesting choice,

08:52SPEAKER'cause you can't, whoever the last person is.

08:56SPEAKER- That's awesome.

08:57SPEAKERThat feels like that almost should be,

08:58SPEAKERI mean, it's easier to justify

08:59SPEAKERwith some magical reason or whatever,

09:02SPEAKERbut that almost feels like that should be the default.

09:04SPEAKERMake exits like an expendable resource to be competed over.

09:07SPEAKER- But I mean, I feel like on a team,

09:09SPEAKERwhen you can go in as a team,

09:10SPEAKERyou should be able to leave as a team, right?

09:12SPEAKER- Oh, every individual player is not an exit?

09:14SPEAKER- Every individual player.

09:15SPEAKER- Oh, what? - Yeah.

09:16SPEAKER- I thought you meant every team got there.

09:18SPEAKEROh, wow.

09:19SPEAKER- Every team having a different exfil is totally cool.

09:21SPEAKERYeah, I get that.

09:22SPEAKER- That's maybe a bit much.

09:23SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, but I mean, they're early.

09:26SPEAKERIt's not even out, it's not even early access.

09:28SPEAKERIt's just them releasing betas and collecting data.

09:31SPEAKERSo they're good on them.

09:33SPEAKERIt's a cool thing.

09:34SPEAKER- Is this the first next trendy phenomenon mode

09:39SPEAKERsince "Battle Royale"?

09:41SPEAKERI mean, I know this is kind of a derivative

09:42SPEAKERof "Battle Royale" in a way, but like-

09:44SPEAKER- I mean, these are about "Battle Royale" vibes

09:46SPEAKERin a game that more than one person can win, right?

09:50SPEAKERLike the knock against "Battle Royale"

09:52SPEAKERis you put 100 players in a game

09:53SPEAKERand only one of them can win, right?

09:55SPEAKERAnd realistically, you want players to win,

09:58SPEAKERlike players need to win

09:59SPEAKERin order to feel engaged to a lot of people

10:01SPEAKERmore often than that.

10:03SPEAKERSo yeah, these are like the Tarkov fast follows

10:05SPEAKERis what we're seeing now.

10:06SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

10:06SPEAKERBut what I mean is like, okay,

10:08SPEAKERso like MOBAs were about 10 years ago,

10:10SPEAKERlike MOBAs blew up and were the thing for a while

10:12SPEAKERand then "Battle Royale" came in the wake of PUBG.

10:15SPEAKERLike, is this the first like next big thing

10:17SPEAKERsince "Battle Royale"?

10:18SPEAKERI think it is.

10:19SPEAKERI can't think of anything else that has blown up like this.

10:23SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I think-

10:24SPEAKER- A vampire survivor.

10:25SPEAKERActually, I should say vampire survivors type.

10:28SPEAKERI don't know what we're calling those.

10:29SPEAKERI'm kind of warming up to the phrase bullet heaven.

10:33SPEAKER- Oh, like a reverse bullet hell, I get that.

10:34SPEAKERThat makes sense.

10:36SPEAKER- Anyway, like I am super into the extraction type of game.

10:40SPEAKERAnd if that's gonna be the thing that like everybody

10:44SPEAKERis trying to take a stab at next,

10:46SPEAKERlike that's exciting to me

10:47SPEAKER'cause I would like to play a lot of those.

10:49SPEAKER- I mean, the ones that I have played so far,

10:51SPEAKERI don't, like the tension is delicious

10:53SPEAKERin a way that early PUBG was

10:54SPEAKERand none of the other battle royales have ever really been.

10:57SPEAKERLike, even though my performance in Broaders

11:00SPEAKERwas catastrophically bad,

11:02SPEAKERbut it was still very exciting.

11:03SPEAKERLike I just got, I just ate shit over and over and over,

11:06SPEAKERbut I still wanted to keep playing it

11:08SPEAKERbecause it was so tense at all times.

11:09SPEAKER- Yep, yep.

11:10SPEAKER- Anyway.

11:11SPEAKER- Yeah.

11:12SPEAKER- Welcome to our video game podcast.

11:14SPEAKER- Brad, you need another video game podcast.

11:17SPEAKERSo next week we're talking about something

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11:20SPEAKERAnd-

11:21SPEAKER- Oh, and also you'll be at DICE for most of next week.

11:24SPEAKER- Also I'll be at DICE for most of next week, yeah.

11:26SPEAKERSo a bunch of scheduling factors have converged.

11:30SPEAKER- Yeah.

11:31SPEAKER- To move the Q and A up a week.

11:33SPEAKER- Yeah.

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12:13SPEAKER- Order to fill, clearly.

12:14SPEAKER- I like to think that it's just like a way

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12:18SPEAKERThere's a couple of people that use it as just like a,

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12:26SPEAKEROkay, let's just check it right off.

12:28SPEAKERDid you check the email inbox?

12:30SPEAKER- You know, that is a good question to ask now

12:32SPEAKERas we're starting recording.

12:33SPEAKERNo, I did not,

12:34SPEAKERbut I'm going to look at it right now real quick.

12:36SPEAKER- Okay, should I fill or should I just start reading this?

12:40SPEAKER- Go for it.

12:41SPEAKER- Let's just, okay, let's focus here

12:42SPEAKER'cause this is important.

12:44SPEAKERWe have the rare follow-up.

12:47SPEAKERWe have someone coming back and answering their own question.

12:49SPEAKER- Ooh, I like that.

12:50SPEAKERThat cut us out of the, that helps everything.

12:53SPEAKER- It's console command.

12:55SPEAKERIt's the person who was asking about roasting the weed coffee.

12:58SPEAKER- Oh, look, I don't like to use the hero lightly,

13:02SPEAKERbut weed coffee, man, combine two very good things together.

13:06SPEAKERLet's hear how it's going.

13:08SPEAKER- Would you need to put some like butter or something?

13:11SPEAKERDon't you need some kind of fat?

13:12SPEAKERIsn't the tea, isn't it supposed to be like fat soluble?

13:15SPEAKER- Coffee exudes oil theoretically.

13:17SPEAKER- That's true, okay.

13:18SPEAKER- There is a little bit of oil on the outside of the beans

13:20SPEAKERwhen it's roasted, so yeah.

13:22SPEAKER- All right, I roasted the midnight special.

13:26SPEAKERResults are as follows.

13:29SPEAKERI'm just gonna read this as written here.

13:32SPEAKERHopefully, hopefully it'll make sense.

13:34SPEAKEROne gram full bud from first crack.

13:37SPEAKERThat sucker rolled around and came back out in the end

13:39SPEAKERabout 75% intact.

13:42SPEAKERLittle smoke, didn't affect the roasts.

13:46SPEAKERWaste not, want not, I still hit it.

13:49SPEAKERDidn't elicit any characteristics

13:50SPEAKERthat it had been roasted with coffee.

13:52SPEAKERA little harsher is all one gram crushed.

13:56SPEAKERIntroduced moments from second crack,

13:58SPEAKERAKA get that roast on a cooling tray stat.

14:01SPEAKERDoes any of this make sense to you?

14:02SPEAKER- Yeah, so when you're roasting coffee,

14:04SPEAKERthere's, the cracks are like the,

14:07SPEAKERthose are the signs that the internal temperature,

14:09SPEAKERI think, of the beans have reached a certain point

14:11SPEAKER'cause the shells actually pop.

14:13SPEAKER- Okay, okay.

14:14SPEAKER- And you can, I've never done enough roasting

14:18SPEAKERto be able to hear it, but you can tell.

14:19SPEAKERLike, first crack is when you do like a light roast.

14:24SPEAKERSo if you want like a lighter,

14:26SPEAKERor like a third wave fancy coffee roast, you do that.

14:28SPEAKERIf you want Starbucks coffee,

14:30SPEAKERI think you do second crack and then some.

14:33SPEAKERLike the darker the roast,

14:35SPEAKERthe further after the second crack they go.

14:37SPEAKER- I love learning esoteric jargon about,

14:43SPEAKERBrad, it's not a weird hobby.

14:44SPEAKERWhat's the word I'm looking for?

14:45SPEAKERThis is a very specific hobby.

14:46SPEAKER- Look, when we're both retired and have a lot of free time,

14:48SPEAKERwe're gonna go to the coffee convention

14:50SPEAKERand we're gonna just walk around and drink coffee

14:52SPEAKERand talk to coffee roasters all day.

14:55SPEAKER- The coffee convention and whiskey convention

14:57SPEAKERare the two things I would like to go.

14:58SPEAKERWell, maybe pizza convention also,

14:59SPEAKERbut like, not to be clear,

15:02SPEAKERI'm not talking about drinking coffee and whiskey

15:04SPEAKERat the same time, but either or,

15:06SPEAKERbut it's like, those are two things where you can,

15:09SPEAKERa little goes a very long way.

15:11SPEAKERAnd I'm just wondering like,

15:13SPEAKERwhat is it to go to like an all day thing

15:15SPEAKERand sample the stuff that you're supposed to maybe

15:18SPEAKERnot drink that much of at once?

15:20SPEAKERHow are you feeling at the end of the day

15:22SPEAKERat the coffee convention or the whiskey show?

15:24SPEAKER- It was the coffee convention at the end of the day was bad.

15:26SPEAKERLike Joey and I had to go to the bar

15:28SPEAKERand when we got to the bar,

15:29SPEAKERall of the coffee people were there

15:31SPEAKERand they were getting really drunk

15:32SPEAKERso they would have a chance of sleeping.

15:34SPEAKERIt seems like so.

15:35SPEAKER- Sure, I can't believe that.

15:37SPEAKERWe'll just bring some heavy duty sedatives.

15:40SPEAKER- Yeah, the coffee people like to throw down too, I think so.

15:42SPEAKEROkay, so did the coffee make him high?

15:44SPEAKERThat's the question.

15:46SPEAKER- Okay, well, let's get into,

15:47SPEAKERokay, so the previous one was about the full bud,

15:50SPEAKERI think he just threw an intact bud in there.

15:53SPEAKER- Yeah.

15:54SPEAKER- Okay, one gram crushed,

15:55SPEAKERintroduced moments from second crack,

15:58SPEAKERalso known as get that roast on a cooling tray stat.

16:00SPEAKERFan on low, flash of smoke,

16:03SPEAKERseemed more promising but didn't take.

16:07SPEAKERNeither roast shows any sign,

16:08SPEAKERanything unusual took place,

16:10SPEAKEReither smell or appearance.

16:13SPEAKERTrying my first cup in the morning

16:14SPEAKERafter letting it rest the week but not expecting much.

16:16SPEAKERI'll report back if it makes me mad high

16:18SPEAKERbut I doubt it's not surprised but now we know.

16:22SPEAKER- I bet there's not enough fat on the outside

16:24SPEAKERof the coffee to catch the good stuff.

16:29SPEAKER- Yeah, that's what I meant about the butter or something.

16:34SPEAKERAll right, thank you for the,

16:35SPEAKERlook, you've done a public service.

16:37SPEAKER- I've got a real good email here, Brad.

16:39SPEAKER- Okay, all right.

16:41SPEAKER- Ryan writes in and says, "Hey Brad and Will,

16:43SPEAKER"do you employ any strategies currently for to-do lists?

16:46SPEAKER"I feel like I've tried and everything,

16:48SPEAKER"I tried everything and it just never sticks.

16:49SPEAKER"To-do lists, Trello, Field Notes, Google tasks,

16:52SPEAKER"who knows what else?

16:53SPEAKER"I just feel like I try to use it

16:55SPEAKER"and it's more work to remember the list.

16:57SPEAKER"Always be testing."

16:58SPEAKERYeah, that is a common,

17:02SPEAKERso I have to use to-do lists

17:03SPEAKER'cause if I don't, I will forget things at this point.

17:05SPEAKERI have too much going on at any given time.

17:07SPEAKER- So I'm very much like this questioner.

17:10SPEAKERI've tried numerous methods

17:12SPEAKERand I end up in the exact same place

17:14SPEAKERof it just feels like adding,

17:15SPEAKERmaintaining the to-do list just feels like another task

17:17SPEAKERon the to-do list, if that makes sense.

17:19SPEAKERAnd also the other thing is

17:21SPEAKERI have a hard time sticking with them,

17:22SPEAKERso I end up with like,

17:26SPEAKERI've got just a plain text file with notes in it.

17:28SPEAKERI've got like in my email client,

17:30SPEAKERI'll star stuff to try to keep up with it.

17:31SPEAKERLike I'm very inconsistent and don't centralize.

17:35SPEAKER- So I have two prongs of attack.

17:37SPEAKEROne is that I use the reminders built into iOS

17:43SPEAKERjust for the me walking around

17:46SPEAKERand suddenly remember something that I have to not forget.

17:50SPEAKERSo I usually set those with a timer

17:52SPEAKERfor like a time that I know I'll be sitting at my desk.

17:57SPEAKERAnd I do those almost all exclusively with Siri.

17:58SPEAKERSo I say, you know, do the, hey Siri,

18:01SPEAKERhere's some business, remind me on Monday at 9 a.m.

18:05SPEAKERNo, no, go, no, no, don't actually do that, Siri, fuck off.

18:09SPEAKERThe phase two of this, so a few weeks ago,

18:14SPEAKERI talked about my note keeping technique,

18:16SPEAKERwhich is just a bunch of flat files in a Dropbox folder.

18:20SPEAKERAnd I do a new one every day.

18:22SPEAKERAnd sometimes I do ones for special things

18:23SPEAKERthat I'm gonna work on for more than a day or two.

18:26SPEAKERAnd people were like, hey, if you're using that,

18:28SPEAKERyou're gonna really like,

18:30SPEAKERand then everybody sent me their own favorite thing.

18:32SPEAKERSo I've been going through those things that people sent in

18:33SPEAKERand I think the one I've settled on is probably Notion.

18:37SPEAKER- Okay, is Obsidian another one that somebody sent?

18:40SPEAKER- Obsidian is one, Obsidian has cross-platform problems.

18:46SPEAKER- I had been looking at Obsidian thinking about trying it,

18:49SPEAKERbut I've heard of Notion also,

18:51SPEAKERmaybe I should give that a look.

18:52SPEAKER- So there's the range on this.

18:56SPEAKERWe probably should actually do a whole episode about these

18:58SPEAKER'cause there's a lot of interesting stuff there.

19:00SPEAKER- Yeah, that would be good actually.

19:02SPEAKERI have a pretty good memory and in the past

19:06SPEAKERthat has been enough to keep everything in order,

19:08SPEAKERbut kind of juggling enough information at this point

19:11SPEAKERthat is just overwhelming whatever mental faculties I have.

19:14SPEAKERSo yeah, like a whole episode dedicated

19:16SPEAKERto like getting yourself digitally organized

19:18SPEAKERwould probably benefit me a lot.

19:20SPEAKER- For me, it's more that I context juggle it up

19:23SPEAKERbetween the two podcasts and the day job and the stream

19:25SPEAKERand my family stuff.

19:27SPEAKERLike I just, you'd lose context for one thing or the other

19:30SPEAKERif you don't write it all down.

19:31SPEAKER- It is, yes, context switching is a whole thing

19:35SPEAKERI have found as well.

19:37SPEAKER- But so the neat thing about,

19:38SPEAKERso Notion is on the, there's a range on these

19:41SPEAKERbetween like lightly featured and fully featured

19:43SPEAKERand lightly featured are more akin to like old simple note

19:45SPEAKERand stuff like that.

19:46SPEAKERObsidian is kind of on the lightly featured end.

19:48SPEAKERThe Notion end is more of a corporate tool,

19:53SPEAKERbut it does things like you can make a Trello board style

19:57SPEAKERto do list where you have like your personal list

20:00SPEAKERand the stuff that you're working on currently

20:02SPEAKERand like you can make lists of lists and stuff like that,

20:05SPEAKERwhich is really nice.

20:06SPEAKERBut the neat thing is because it's mainly for note taking,

20:09SPEAKERlike I take my work notes in there

20:11SPEAKERand then if I have a bullet in the work notes,

20:14SPEAKERthat's like, hey, here's stuff.

20:15SPEAKERHey, I have to write patch notes for an update for the game.

20:18SPEAKERI make the bulleted list of the patch notes in my meeting

20:22SPEAKERwhere I'm finding out what all is going into that patch.

20:24SPEAKERAnd then I just drag that over into the to-do list

20:27SPEAKERand it becomes a to-do list item automatically.

20:29SPEAKERAnd then when I have time to go work on that,

20:33SPEAKERI just open that to-do list and it's there

20:34SPEAKERand I check off the things as I go down.

20:36SPEAKER- Wow.

20:37SPEAKER- It is, so, but at the same time,

20:40SPEAKERyou can export to like, I mean, you write in markdown.

20:44SPEAKERSo anything that reads markdown like WordPress or whatever

20:46SPEAKERjust works with it.

20:47SPEAKERYou can just copy and paste into it.

20:51SPEAKERThe one thing it doesn't do

20:52SPEAKERis Steam's weird version of markdown.

20:54SPEAKERI bet that there's a plugin for that

20:56SPEAKER'cause I always have to reformat the patch notes on Steam,

20:58SPEAKERwhich is a little bit of a bummer.

20:59SPEAKERBut anyway, notion is the one I've settled on.

21:02SPEAKER- I tried Craft, I tried Obsidian,

21:06SPEAKERI tried a couple of the other Simple Note,

21:08SPEAKERlike the Simple Note clones.

21:09SPEAKER- Yeah, not clones, not clients that hook into Simple Note.

21:14SPEAKER- Yeah, they're like the successors to Simple Note.

21:17SPEAKER- I still kind of use Simple,

21:19SPEAKERlike Simple Note is a nice simple service

21:22SPEAKERas the name implies,

21:23SPEAKERbut like in probably 10 years of using Simple Note,

21:26SPEAKERI have never found a client on any operating system

21:28SPEAKERthat I really actually like.

21:30SPEAKERThey're all janky as hell.

21:31SPEAKERAnd I don't know why.

21:32SPEAKER- That was my experience with Simple Note.

21:34SPEAKERI also lost data on Simple Note once

21:36SPEAKERand as a result, I'm less keen on it.

21:38SPEAKER- Not cool.

21:41SPEAKER- I can't speak for like Notion or Craft,

21:43SPEAKERbut I know Obsidian just works

21:44SPEAKERwith your existing cloud storage.

21:46SPEAKERAnd I feel like that's probably the way to go at this point,

21:48SPEAKERrather than, rather like Simple Note

21:49SPEAKERis cloud storage for texts,

21:51SPEAKERbut I think I would rather just have something

21:53SPEAKERthat hooks into my Dropbox or OneDrive

21:55SPEAKERor something like that and just manage,

21:57SPEAKERbasically just an interface to the files

22:00SPEAKERthat are stored in my existing.

22:02SPEAKER- So that's Obsidian, Notion uses its own backend,

22:05SPEAKERwhich is why it's, but like I said,

22:07SPEAKERit's like you can buy, you can do a free personal account.

22:11SPEAKERYou can also, like a lot of game studios

22:14SPEAKERactually use Notion for their bug tracker

22:17SPEAKERand their long-term planning board.

22:19SPEAKERLike they use Notion in a way that,

22:21SPEAKERsmall studios mostly, just to be clear,

22:23SPEAKERbut they use Notion in the way that you use Jira

22:26SPEAKERand Trello and Confluence or Wiki or whatever

22:30SPEAKERto keep your documents and share them

22:32SPEAKERacross the whole team to do your documentation

22:34SPEAKERand stuff like that.

22:35SPEAKERSo like probably this is also gonna be influenced

22:38SPEAKERby the fact that I think we're gonna switch

22:39SPEAKERto Notion at the studio.

22:42SPEAKER- As institutionally, I'm looking real quick

22:45SPEAKERbecause of course I am for any open source alternatives

22:48SPEAKERto this problem.

22:50SPEAKER- There's a ton.

22:50SPEAKERThere are, like when you go to the alternatives

22:53SPEAKERto page for Obsidian or for Simple Note,

22:57SPEAKERthere are literally dozens of them.

22:59SPEAKER- Do you endorse that site?

23:01SPEAKERAlternative to, are you talking about alternativeto.net?

23:03SPEAKER- I use it as a, hey, here's what is out there, yeah.

23:09SPEAKERIt's pretty, I find it to be up and down

23:11SPEAKERbased on the category and how popular the category is.

23:14SPEAKERSometimes they miss the, sometimes they miss the point

23:19SPEAKERof the app, especially for stuff that's like more,

23:22SPEAKERSwiss Army knife apps that do a lot of things,

23:24SPEAKERsometimes they get the wrong part of it.

23:26SPEAKER- Yeah.

23:27SPEAKER- But generally it's pretty good.

23:29SPEAKER- I also just discovered an open source alternative.to,

23:34SPEAKERwhich I don't know. - Oh, I haven't seen that.

23:36SPEAKER- I'll put some time into this and see what,

23:39SPEAKERyeah, I mean, these things are only as good

23:41SPEAKERas the data that is submitted to them, so.

23:44SPEAKER- I've got another, I've got another email

23:45SPEAKERif you want one more.

23:47SPEAKER- Sure.

23:48SPEAKER- Kosher Bacon Jam says, let's talk about cake batter

23:52SPEAKERfor a minute and not the curious questionnaire

23:54SPEAKERwe all know and love here on the tech pod.

23:56SPEAKERWhat is your favorite kind of cake?

23:57SPEAKERPersonally, I'm a classic yellow vanilla with fudge swirls.

24:00SPEAKERWhat about you two?

24:01SPEAKERWhat is your, what are our thoughts on red velvet?

24:02SPEAKERIs it just a misunderstood middle child of the cake world?

24:06SPEAKER- Yellow vanilla with fudge swirls.

24:08SPEAKER- Sounds pretty good, actually, it's like a marble.

24:11SPEAKER- They're not, they're not describing yellow cake

24:13SPEAKERas being vanilla flavored, are they?

24:14SPEAKER- I think they're saying it's yellow plus vanilla.

24:16SPEAKER- Okay, like vanilla, okay.

24:18SPEAKERSorry, what was the other one they mentioned

24:19SPEAKERthat's the red velvet?

24:21SPEAKER- I think red velvet is just a chocolate cake.

24:23SPEAKERThat's my, that's my hot take.

24:25SPEAKERThe chocolate cake with bad icing,

24:26SPEAKERI don't like red velvet particularly.

24:28SPEAKER- Okay, you want a hot take?

24:29SPEAKER- Yeah.

24:31SPEAKER- Here's my hot take, I don't love cake.

24:33SPEAKER- Wow.

24:34SPEAKER- I tend to, 11 times out of 10, if you gave me,

24:38SPEAKERif you let me choose between cake or pie,

24:40SPEAKERI'm gonna pick pie.

24:40SPEAKER- Well, I mean, that's a no, pie is clearly,

24:42SPEAKERthis is why we're friends, right?

24:46SPEAKER- I mean, I don't hate cake, but I don't really,

24:49SPEAKERI don't know, there are not a lot of cake, hmm.

24:52SPEAKER- Hmm, pie has a delightful ephemeralness

24:55SPEAKERthat like, like you cut open a pie,

24:58SPEAKERyou've cracked the seal on that thing.

24:59SPEAKERYou got a limited amount of time to hork that down.

25:03SPEAKERI, look at the cake, I make a sour cream chocolate cake

25:09SPEAKERthat's pretty good.

25:10SPEAKER- Okay.

25:11SPEAKER- It's like, it's like the right amount of chocolatey,

25:13SPEAKERwe have a slice of ice cream with it.

25:16SPEAKERThe scoop of ice cream with it is pretty good.

25:18SPEAKER- You're reminding me I've had some sour cream

25:21SPEAKERor like cream cheese type cakes in the past

25:23SPEAKERthat were quite good.

25:24SPEAKERI mean, are we basically just getting into cheesecake here?

25:26SPEAKER- I'd like, I mean, look, if you get down to it,

25:29SPEAKERif you give me the choice between any other cake

25:31SPEAKERand pretty much any, like a lemon cheesecake, man,

25:33SPEAKERI will go ham on a lemon cheesecake.

25:35SPEAKER- Yeah, I will, I would take a cheesecake

25:36SPEAKERover a regular cake any day of the week.

25:39SPEAKER- I like a cupcake though, too.

25:41SPEAKER- Is cheesecake actually just a cheese pie?

25:44SPEAKER- No, cheesecake's cake, it has flour.

25:47SPEAKER- Is it, does it?

25:48SPEAKER- Does it?

25:48SPEAKEROh, I don't know.

25:50SPEAKER- The consistency feels much more like a lot of pies

25:53SPEAKERI've had than does a cake, but anyway.

25:56SPEAKER- I mean, it has a crumb, it has a, I don't know.

26:00SPEAKERGina makes the cheesecake in this family.

26:01SPEAKERI don't know that I know how to make a cheesecake, actually.

26:05SPEAKERBut yeah, anyway, I think we can all agree

26:06SPEAKERthat cheesecake is really good

26:08SPEAKERand that pie is better than any cake, the end.

26:11SPEAKER- Yes.

26:12SPEAKER- No more need to converse about this in the future.

26:14SPEAKER- No offense to cake likers.

26:16SPEAKER- Yeah, you do. - Or cake batter.

26:20SPEAKERAll right, shall we return to the Discord questions?

26:22SPEAKER- Yeah.

26:24SPEAKER- Okay, this one is exciting to me.

26:27SPEAKERI have not heard of this.

26:28SPEAKERThis is from TK.

26:30SPEAKERWhat are your thoughts on Pubnics or Tilda communities?

26:34SPEAKERSome background if you're not aware.

26:36SPEAKERPublic Unix, that's where I guess

26:37SPEAKERwhere the term Pubnics comes from.

26:39SPEAKERPublic Unix or Tilda communities are communities

26:41SPEAKERwhere people have set up a publicly accessible Unix system,

26:44SPEAKERoften Linux, for people to register for user accounts on.

26:48SPEAKERThe users can host low impact websites or Gemini capsules,

26:52SPEAKERwhich are a kind of more modern, easier to use gopher,

26:55SPEAKERI guess, is how they describe this.

26:58SPEAKERThey can contribute to discussion on forums,

27:00SPEAKERmaintain a plan file, or use the Pubnics for email,

27:03SPEAKERall from SSH.

27:05SPEAKEROne that you may be familiar with is SDF.

27:07SPEAKERI was not familiar with that.

27:08SPEAKERThat's sdf.org.

27:10SPEAKER- I had no idea this was a thing

27:11SPEAKERand I'm very excited about it.

27:12SPEAKER- Seriously, so I went to sdf.org.

27:15SPEAKERFirst of all, it looks, well, it says copyright.

27:18SPEAKER- What?

27:20SPEAKER- You can just go to sdf.org/ questionmarkwelcome

27:23SPEAKERto see this.

27:24SPEAKERIt says copyright 1987 to 2065.

27:29SPEAKER- Wow.

27:29SPEAKER- I don't know if, can you pre-register your copyrights?

27:32SPEAKER- You can't copyright into the future,

27:32SPEAKERbut I think that's a Unix time stamp joke, isn't it?

27:35SPEAKER- Maybe.

27:36SPEAKER- Is it 2065, one of the?

27:38SPEAKER- Like the Unix time epic thing is 2036, I wanna say,

27:41SPEAKERbut yeah.

27:42SPEAKER- Yeah, we have 11 years, 12, 13 years to fix that problem.

27:45SPEAKER- Anyway, I started to say this webpage looks like

27:47SPEAKERit's from the early 90s, but sure enough, copyright 1987.

27:50SPEAKERAnyway, SDF, I guess, stands for Super Dimension Fortress,

27:53SPEAKERis a networked community of free software authors,

27:55SPEAKERteachers, librarians, students, researchers, hobbyists,

27:57SPEAKERcomputer enthusiasts, and the oral and visually impaired

28:01SPEAKERis operated as a nonprofit 501(c)(7).

28:04SPEAKERAnyway, this is very exciting to me.

28:09SPEAKER- Brad.

28:10SPEAKER- Yes?

28:11SPEAKER- Look under the make a donation button.

28:12SPEAKERIt says SDF uses DEC alphas and AMD optarons,

28:16SPEAKERrunning NetBSD, TOPS20, and Symbiotics genera.

28:19SPEAKERThat is fantastic.

28:20SPEAKERI haven't, like, even the new hardware there

28:23SPEAKERis still 15 years old.

28:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

28:25SPEAKER- Do they still make optarons?

28:27SPEAKER- I think I've, I don't know.

28:28SPEAKERNo, the optaron has been long supplanted by--

28:31SPEAKER- When the Ryzen stuff went away, right?

28:32SPEAKER- Well.

28:33SPEAKER- Yeah, like the Ryzen--

28:34SPEAKER- Well, no, Ryzen is the consumer desktop part.

28:37SPEAKER- Yeah, but I'm saying the socket, the whatever,

28:41SPEAKERwell, I can't, the Zen stuff replaced optarons, right?

28:46SPEAKER- Yes, well, so Epic, E-P-Y-C is how it's spelled,

28:50SPEAKERis AMD's big Xeon competitor data center part.

28:53SPEAKERThere's also Threadripper,

28:54SPEAKERwhich is kind of a consumer prosumer.

28:58SPEAKERAnyway, I could, I think I've said this before,

29:01SPEAKERbut like the DEC alpha was like, to me,

29:02SPEAKERwas the prototypical, like, big iron CPU back in the day.

29:06SPEAKER- Oh yeah, they ran so hot.

29:08SPEAKERThe coolers on a DEC alpha machine

29:11SPEAKERwere like six inches tall.

29:13SPEAKERThey were, the air coolers, they were ridiculous.

29:15SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, I know I've said it before,

29:17SPEAKERbut I just, I remember id Software talking about

29:20SPEAKERbuying a giant multi-DEC alpha system

29:23SPEAKERto like crunch their light maps on for the Quake era.

29:25SPEAKERAnyway, the reason this is so exciting to me is that,

29:32SPEAKERI'm trying to think how to say this,

29:33SPEAKERlike, I'm almost kind of sad

29:35SPEAKERthat computers have gotten so good

29:38SPEAKERthat the multi-user component of Unix

29:40SPEAKERis kind of unnecessary now, you know, like,

29:43SPEAKERlike the whole reason, the whole reason, like,

29:44SPEAKERUnix was a multi-user system is because computer time

29:46SPEAKERwas so valuable and limited, right?

29:48SPEAKER- Well, yeah.

29:49SPEAKER- Like you were using, you were on a mainframe

29:51SPEAKERand you had to have your own account

29:52SPEAKERbecause there was only one computer, right?

29:54SPEAKEROr everybody was sharing a machine.

29:56SPEAKERAnd like, obviously, Linux runs on your phone now,

30:00SPEAKERyou know, it runs on anything now.

30:01SPEAKERLike the--

30:02SPEAKER- Like I could set up a multi-user machine on a Raspberry Pi

30:05SPEAKERand give it accounts to all the kids

30:06SPEAKERin my daughter's class, no problem.

30:08SPEAKER- Right, right, or, you know, I mean,

30:10SPEAKERI like the multi-user environment obviously

30:12SPEAKERstill has its uses for like security.

30:13SPEAKERLike obviously you want to make

30:14SPEAKERa bunch of unprivileged accounts to run your services

30:16SPEAKERand not run things as root.

30:17SPEAKERLike there's still utility there,

30:19SPEAKERbut like the social element of everybody has accounts

30:24SPEAKERon this system and it's all kind of one big community,

30:27SPEAKERsort of like the plan file.

30:29SPEAKER- Yes.

30:30SPEAKER- You make a new user account in any modern Unix,

30:32SPEAKERyou still, it still asks you for like room number

30:35SPEAKERand phone number and full name when you,

30:38SPEAKERwhen you're, when you're setting up the account,

30:40SPEAKERlike the idea, like just this, this weird legacy thing

30:43SPEAKERof like, oh man, you were putting your office number in

30:45SPEAKERwhen you made your Unix account.

30:47SPEAKER'Cause people might need to know where

30:48SPEAKERto come physically find you on the campus at some point.

30:52SPEAKERLike it's such a, and the plan file again, you know,

30:54SPEAKERit's like such a cool social thing.

30:57SPEAKER- Did you work with those computers enough

30:59SPEAKERto like have the thing where somebody hogged cycles

31:02SPEAKERand brought the whole system, slowed the whole system down?

31:04SPEAKER- No, I didn't touch any of this stuff

31:06SPEAKERuntil way after that would have been an issue.

31:08SPEAKER- 'Cause that was a thing that used to have,

31:10SPEAKERlike on the VAX or on the Unix machine

31:12SPEAKERand share it across the campus.

31:13SPEAKERSomebody would like run, they'd download

31:16SPEAKERand run their own mud that would then get

31:18SPEAKERa thousand people connecting to it

31:20SPEAKERand it would bog down the whole system

31:21SPEAKERand the admins would have to come out

31:23SPEAKERand post a message to everybody and be like,

31:24SPEAKERhey man, we found a user that was, you know,

31:28SPEAKERoverusing resources, whatever, we throttled them,

31:30SPEAKERplease don't do this, is one of the new rules.

31:33SPEAKER- Did you get that as a system message in your shell?

31:36SPEAKERLike have you ever been in a log-in?

31:37SPEAKER- Yeah, you get a system message in your shell.

31:38SPEAKERYeah. - Oh my God.

31:39SPEAKER- It would be in your inbox sometimes.

31:41SPEAKER- Okay, like, you know, like different stuff,

31:43SPEAKERlike different background stuff you run

31:45SPEAKERwill still send like system messages,

31:47SPEAKERlike network UPS tools, will any system

31:51SPEAKERthat's connected to it, if the UPS goes down,

31:53SPEAKERyou'll get a big fat, like lost connection to UPS

31:55SPEAKERin the terminal, but like the idea that actual admins

31:58SPEAKERwere typing messages and sending them out network-wide

32:01SPEAKERis so damn cool to me.

32:02SPEAKER- Oh yeah, I mean, like the, I gotta remember,

32:05SPEAKERI can't remember, I feel like the VAX,

32:08SPEAKERmaybe both of them, when you would log in,

32:10SPEAKERwould pop up with a, hey, you have seven new messages,

32:13SPEAKERand those messages was almost always be like admin messages

32:16SPEAKERabout downtime and stuff like that.

32:17SPEAKERLike, hey, we're putting new servers,

32:19SPEAKERnew hard drives in the server,

32:20SPEAKERit's gonna be down for two hours at 2 a.m. on Tuesday,

32:23SPEAKERblah, blah, blah, stuff like that.

32:25SPEAKERMake sure you save your running processes and all that.

32:28SPEAKER- Right, I've mentioned before,

32:30SPEAKERthe closest I ever got to that was in school

32:33SPEAKERwhen I got to college in like '97, '98,

32:35SPEAKERlike they still had computer labs full of Spark stations

32:38SPEAKERand your home account was just on a share.

32:41SPEAKER- Yeah, that was the way my CS classes worked.

32:44SPEAKER- Like mounting it over NFS or whatever,

32:45SPEAKERso you just could go into any computer lab

32:47SPEAKERand sit down to, like some of those labs

32:49SPEAKERhave like probably 100 or 200 terminals in a gigantic room.

32:52SPEAKER- I did not go to that nice a school, yeah.

32:55SPEAKER- Well, it was an engineering school,

32:56SPEAKERlike almost everybody except for people like me

32:59SPEAKERin the very tiny liberal, or like the humanities section

33:03SPEAKERof the school needed computers to do their work on constantly

33:06SPEAKERand this was before everybody just had a computer.

33:09SPEAKERAnyway, but you would log in

33:11SPEAKERand you would just have all your desktop environment settings

33:13SPEAKERand files and stuff anywhere on campus, it was so cool.

33:16SPEAKER- The neat thing was when you learned how to do Cygwin,

33:18SPEAKERwhich I think came a little bit later, I can't remember,

33:22SPEAKERand then you could remote into those

33:23SPEAKERand get an X shell and the whole thing

33:26SPEAKERacross the modem connection,

33:27SPEAKER'cause it would just send the parameters of the window

33:30SPEAKERand Cygwin would draw the windows for you, it was bonkers.

33:32SPEAKER- Like remote X is like a super weird, cool concept to me,

33:36SPEAKERwhich I think is mostly out of use at this point,

33:39SPEAKERbut yeah, like the idea that the kind of the math

33:43SPEAKERof your GUI was happening remotely

33:45SPEAKERand then it was just sending like window positional data

33:47SPEAKERand stuff to the client to draw is so crazy.

33:50SPEAKER- Yeah, I think at this point it's faster and cheaper

33:51SPEAKERto just send a H.264 stream of your desktop

33:55SPEAKERthan it is to do all that work, but anyway.

33:57SPEAKER- And like that's kind of what bums me out,

34:00SPEAKERstuff has gotten so good that a lot of this cool stuff

34:03SPEAKERis no longer necessary.

34:04SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm okay with that, it turns out.

34:07SPEAKER- Yeah, overall things are way, way better now,

34:10SPEAKERbut I might have to make an account on one of these

34:14SPEAKERand mess with it a little bit.

34:15SPEAKER- I've got another email if you want

34:16SPEAKERwhile you look for the next Q.

34:19SPEAKERJohn from Winston-Salem writes in and says,

34:21SPEAKER"Hey, I really enjoyed listening to you talk

34:23SPEAKERabout what's happening under hood

34:25SPEAKERof the recent explosion in machine learning.

34:28SPEAKERI'm sure you've heard the following several times already,

34:30SPEAKERbut I thought I'd add a comment out of some degree

34:32SPEAKERof professional pride.

34:34SPEAKERI'm an applied linguist whose PhD is in corpus linguistics,

34:37SPEAKERand while linguists usually avoid

34:41SPEAKERprescriptive language recommendations,

34:43SPEAKERI wanted to offer that most often

34:45SPEAKERwithin corpus linguistics and related areas,

34:47SPEAKERthe word corpus is usually pluralized as corpora."

34:51SPEAKERInteresting, there's some variation on which syllables

34:53SPEAKERin corpora are stressed when the word is spoken,

34:54SPEAKERso I'm sure I messed that up.

34:58SPEAKERYeah, I thought that was interesting.

34:59SPEAKER- Huh, okay, all right.

35:01SPEAKER- It makes sense.

35:02SPEAKER- That's good to know, I have never heard that word before.

35:06SPEAKERI'm looking it up right now, yes, sure enough.

35:08SPEAKERCorporal noun corpora,

35:09SPEAKERshould I have Google pronounce it for me?

35:11SPEAKER- Sure, why not?

35:12SPEAKERCan we hear that?

35:14SPEAKER- Oh, it only pronounces singular, I think.

35:17SPEAKER- Oh.

35:19SPEAKER- Anyway, okay.

35:21SPEAKEROh man, here's one that I have to read.

35:24SPEAKER- Okay.

35:25SPEAKER- We could have paired this

35:26SPEAKERwith the earlier coffee question, but.

35:27SPEAKER- Oh.

35:28SPEAKER- Anyway, Chayat, I'm gonna say is the username.

35:32SPEAKER- Uh-huh.

35:33SPEAKER- I can't stand the taste of coffee.

35:35SPEAKERI've tried it in a few guises

35:36SPEAKERand it's always vaguely foot flavored mud water to me.

35:40SPEAKERI am fine with this.

35:42SPEAKERWhat I feel like I'm missing out on

35:43SPEAKERis a whole culture of pretentiousness around it,

35:46SPEAKERhow it's made, where it's grown, et cetera.

35:49SPEAKERDo you guys have any suggestions

35:50SPEAKERas to what other beverage I can be snobby about instead?

35:53SPEAKERBeing English, I'm of course a tea drinker,

35:56SPEAKERbut my tastes in this regard

35:57SPEAKERare very simple and widely shared.

35:59SPEAKERI also don't drink alcohol very much.

36:01SPEAKERNow here is the real reason I wanted to read this.

36:03SPEAKERI've considered open cola,

36:06SPEAKERbut I don't know if I'm quite douchey enough for that.

36:09SPEAKEROh, maybe that would be a good FOSPOD episode.

36:13SPEAKER- What's open cola?

36:14SPEAKER- What is open cola?

36:18SPEAKER- I, oh wow.

36:19SPEAKER- Okay, it is exactly what you think it is.

36:22SPEAKERIt's open source cola.

36:24SPEAKERIt's quite literally an open source soda.

36:27SPEAKER- Oh man, okay.

36:28SPEAKERI'm gonna.

36:31SPEAKER- Is this, I have, is this legal?

36:34SPEAKERCan you actually call food open source?

36:36SPEAKERI'm not sure.

36:37SPEAKER- I don't know if it's licensed, but.

36:39SPEAKER- Open recipe, I believe I found,

36:42SPEAKERI found a, I mean, this appears to just be some user's repo,

36:46SPEAKERnot necessarily an official one,

36:48SPEAKERbut like I found an open cola GitHub repo.

36:51SPEAKER- What is the, it says mix this with,

36:56SPEAKERmix this according to the recommended safety precautions.

36:59SPEAKERThere's nothing in here.

37:00SPEAKERWell, maybe there is.

37:02SPEAKER- Yeah, open cola, open cola is GPL.

37:04SPEAKER- Yeah, of course, it's a Cory Doctorow thing.

37:07SPEAKER- Okay, do you, I like Doctorow.

37:12SPEAKER- I like Doctorow.

37:13SPEAKER- His Twitter output is a little verbose sometimes for me.

37:18SPEAKER- I actively just, I don't follow him on social media anymore

37:21SPEAKERbecause he just writes a bunch on his blog during the day

37:24SPEAKERand then reposted it all in a stream on Twitter at night

37:26SPEAKERand it's kind of annoying.

37:28SPEAKER- Okay, yeah.

37:28SPEAKER- But I like, the thing about Cory is he was complaining

37:33SPEAKERabout the, like he straight up said, hey,

37:37SPEAKERthis DRM shit is going to be problematic, here's why.

37:39SPEAKERAnd he was, he could not have been more right

37:41SPEAKER10 years later.

37:42SPEAKER- Yeah, he is pretty perceptive about a lot of

37:47SPEAKERtechno social trends and so forth.

37:50SPEAKERI should, I should mention there's also,

37:53SPEAKERapparently there's also a peer-to-peer content sharing

37:56SPEAKERand discovery network called Open Cola, which is-

37:58SPEAKER- That makes sense, of course there is.

38:00SPEAKER- Something totally different.

38:01SPEAKERBut they're straight up as open source soda and sure.

38:06SPEAKER- I look, if they have open source, okay cola, I'm back in.

38:10SPEAKER- Yes, if I can make open source jolt,

38:12SPEAKERcan I exceed the legal 74 milligram limit of caffeine?

38:17SPEAKER- Look, I'm going to go and tell you, you don't want that.

38:19SPEAKERYou don't want that.

38:20SPEAKERUser freely for free and open user extensible soda

38:24SPEAKERis the only way forward.

38:25SPEAKERYou can put as much caffeine as you want in there.

38:28SPEAKER- I do have, I have everything I need to make this.

38:32SPEAKERI'd have to get some of the, some of the oils.

38:35SPEAKER- Okay, what's in the recipe?

38:39SPEAKER- It is, I'll share it right here.

38:41SPEAKERIt's 10 grams of food grade gum Arabic,

38:43SPEAKERwhich is a thickener, I think.

38:47SPEAKER3.5 milliliters of orange oil,

38:49SPEAKERthree milliliters of water,

38:51SPEAKER2.75 milliliters of lime oil,

38:54SPEAKER1.25 milliliters of Cassia oil,

38:57SPEAKERwhich is a kind of tree nut, I think.

38:59SPEAKEROr yeah, it's a cult, it's a species of cinnamon.

39:04SPEAKER1.0 milliliters of lemon oil,

39:06SPEAKER1.0 milliliters of nutmeg oil,

39:07SPEAKER0.25 milliliters of coriander oil,

39:10SPEAKER0.25 milliliters of neroli oil,

39:13SPEAKERwhich is another, it's a blossom of the orange,

39:16SPEAKERbitter orange tree,

39:17SPEAKERand 0.25 milliliters of lavender oil.

39:21SPEAKERAnd then you take that flavoring

39:25SPEAKERand you add that to 2.36 kilograms of table sugar,

39:30SPEAKER2.3 liters of water, 30 milliliters of caramel color,

39:34SPEAKER17.5 milliliters of phosphoric acid or citrus acid,

39:38SPEAKERcitric acid, 75%.

39:40SPEAKERThat's a high concentration of acid, but whatever.

39:42SPEAKER10 milliliters of the flavoring formula from above

39:46SPEAKERand 2.5 milliliters of caffeine,

39:47SPEAKERwhich is optional.

39:49SPEAKER- That's extensive.

39:51SPEAKER- And then you mix that with soda water

39:52SPEAKERto make the finished drink.

39:54SPEAKERThe picture of this on Wikipedia

39:56SPEAKERdoes not look particularly appetizing.

39:57SPEAKER- No, it's weirdly faint in color.

40:00SPEAKER- It looks a little brown.

40:01SPEAKER- It looks like kind of very watered down coffee

40:04SPEAKERor something.

40:04SPEAKER- Yeah.

40:06SPEAKERI would say most of the people I know

40:07SPEAKERthat got really into beer or coffee 20 years ago,

40:10SPEAKER10, 20 or 10 years ago, respectively,

40:12SPEAKERare now super into weed.

40:14SPEAKERAnd if you ask them about that,

40:15SPEAKERthey'll tell you about their favorite strains and strands

40:17SPEAKERand they'll be like, this one has more psychoactives

40:20SPEAKERand this one has, and it's just exhausting.

40:23SPEAKER- That checks out.

40:24SPEAKER- Yeah, that checks out.

40:26SPEAKER- All right, next question.

40:28SPEAKEREvie Nix writes in, if space was not a concern

40:31SPEAKERand you were presented with the chance to purchase

40:33SPEAKERa payphone, would you, if so, what would you do with it?

40:37SPEAKER- No.

40:38SPEAKER- She didn't say money is also not a concern,

40:40SPEAKERbut if I can assume that space and money

40:42SPEAKERare functionally infinite, then absolutely.

40:46SPEAKER- What would you do?

40:47SPEAKERWould you hook it up to like...

40:49SPEAKER- I just look at it.

40:51SPEAKERWell, again, okay, again, just to be extremely clear,

40:54SPEAKERspace is not a concern because I wouldn't put anything in it

40:58SPEAKERbecause I want it to look cool and like it should,

41:01SPEAKERbut that is a pretty big footprint.

41:03SPEAKER- Are you talking about like a phone booth,

41:04SPEAKERlike one that you can open the door and get into?

41:06SPEAKER- Yes, yes.

41:07SPEAKER- Okay, I would do that.

41:08SPEAKER- My reasoning, yes, absolutely.

41:09SPEAKERMy reasoning here is that primarily Bill and Ted's

41:13SPEAKERExcellent Adventure made the phone booth so cool.

41:15SPEAKER- That's true.

41:16SPEAKER- Secondarily, The Matrix also made the phone booth

41:19SPEAKERpretty cool.

41:20SPEAKER- Yeah, I just think it would be really hard to clean

41:22SPEAKERan actual phone booth to the point

41:23SPEAKERthat I'd want to have it in my house.

41:25SPEAKER- I guess so.

41:25SPEAKERAlso, are we talking American phone booth,

41:28SPEAKERlike the big old boxy one?

41:29SPEAKER- The big red, the Doctor Who style British ones

41:34SPEAKERwould be cool.

41:35SPEAKER- The classic British phone booth

41:36SPEAKERis quite a different thing.

41:39SPEAKER- I would take a '70s style, like aluminum frame

41:42SPEAKERwith the collapsing inner door.

41:44SPEAKERLike that sounds okay to me.

41:46SPEAKER- I'm just, hang on, I need to like Google a picture

41:48SPEAKERof the Bill and Ted phone booth now.

41:49SPEAKERYep, that's pretty much exactly what I would want.

41:52SPEAKER- I think, like, I really like,

41:53SPEAKERremember when we had that phone in the basement

41:55SPEAKERof the Whiskey Media office

41:56SPEAKERthat anybody could just call us on?

41:58SPEAKER- Uh-huh.

41:59SPEAKER- Oh, Brad, did you just find out how much they cost?

42:01SPEAKER- I just found a place that is making and selling

42:04SPEAKERrepro Bill and Ted's Excellent Phone Booths.

42:07SPEAKER- That doesn't surprise me.

42:08SPEAKER- Would you like to know the price?

42:09SPEAKER- I bet they're 10 grand.

42:11SPEAKER- That's pretty close, $9,345.

42:14SPEAKER- I bet they're another 500 bucks to ship, probably.

42:17SPEAKER- Probably, this looks way too clean, though.

42:19SPEAKERYou would have to grunge this thing up.

42:20SPEAKER- Put some sticker, you need a Misfit sticker on there.

42:23SPEAKER- Like some graffiti on there.

42:24SPEAKERJust smear some axle grease or something.

42:27SPEAKER- A little chalk dust, like, yeah.

42:30SPEAKER- This one's a little too pristine for me.

42:33SPEAKER- I would like to, I liked having the thing

42:38SPEAKERthat anybody could just call us on in the office.

42:40SPEAKERI thought that was kind of nice.

42:41SPEAKER- Yeah, that was an interesting thing.

42:43SPEAKERI don't think I'd want that in my house.

42:44SPEAKER- No.

42:45SPEAKER- Yeah.

42:46SPEAKER- No.

42:47SPEAKER- Maybe one day when the tech pod empire

42:48SPEAKERexpands to include physical space,

42:51SPEAKERwe will put a phone booth in.

42:53SPEAKER- Kind of miss working in an office a little bit.

42:55SPEAKER- I'll tell you, entering my eighth year of doing this,

43:00SPEAKERI would love to have an office

43:01SPEAKERI could go to like two days a week.

43:03SPEAKER- Wow, I forgot you had like a whole company before COVID

43:08SPEAKERthat also was worked from home.

43:09SPEAKER- Well, I mean, coming to see you on Saturday mornings

43:12SPEAKERto record this podcast, going to the test head office

43:14SPEAKERto record this is only a test or still entitled or whatever,

43:17SPEAKERgave me like as much human contact,

43:19SPEAKERgave me one or two outings a week.

43:22SPEAKER- That sounds good.

43:23SPEAKER- That's good, yeah.

43:24SPEAKER- Yeah, that sounds about right.

43:26SPEAKERFive days a week, maybe not.

43:28SPEAKER- Yeah, not having an hour in the car each way every day

43:31SPEAKERwas great, not having it, not coming in for half a day

43:33SPEAKERonce a week, twice a week, I'd take that.

43:36SPEAKER- Yeah, all right, next question here.

43:41SPEAKERLet's see this one from Xander.

43:43SPEAKERI'm very tempted by all this NAS talk,

43:45SPEAKERbut I don't have a place to put a noisy drive array.

43:49SPEAKERI have an aging work experiment of four one terabyte SSDs,

43:52SPEAKERbut that's not a lot of storage.

43:54SPEAKERShould I try and build a newer version of that

43:55SPEAKERor have traditional drives gotten way quieter?

43:59SPEAKER- I put mine in the garage so I don't have to hear it.

44:01SPEAKER- Yeah, you homeowner your way out of this problem.

44:06SPEAKERI mean, I've had this NAS sitting here

44:08SPEAKERin the corner of this room for the last five ish years.

44:11SPEAKERWhen I had 5,400 RPM reds in there with some digital reds,

44:17SPEAKERI basically did not hear it.

44:20SPEAKERIt's an pretty old fractal defined mini case,

44:22SPEAKERwhich has decent soundproofing on it.

44:25SPEAKERAnd it's also like, it's behind my desk,

44:27SPEAKERwhich has like big, big solid panels.

44:29SPEAKERSo there's like some physical, you know.

44:32SPEAKER- There's a baffle, yeah.

44:34SPEAKER- But that's like maybe five feet away, maybe six.

44:38SPEAKERAnd like I, again, like, so I switched to 7,200

44:43SPEAKERbecause that's all they make at the size I bought

44:45SPEAKERwhen I upgraded the storage in there.

44:48SPEAKERThose I hear.

44:50SPEAKERApparently also real quick also, were you aware of this?

44:53SPEAKERApparently the bigger the drive, the noisier.

44:56SPEAKER- Well, I mean, the arms have to go further, right?

44:58SPEAKER- Yeah, it's more, I guess it's more.

45:00SPEAKERWell, I don't know, or maybe it's more platters

45:02SPEAKERor something, I don't know what it is.

45:03SPEAKER- I think they're moving more often, usually.

45:06SPEAKERYou can set most drives to be quiet.

45:07SPEAKERThere's quiet mode.

45:09SPEAKERYou can set in the firmware for most drives

45:10SPEAKERthat reduces, you'd lose a little bit of seek time

45:13SPEAKER'cause the arms move less aggressively.

45:15SPEAKERAnd so it means there's less clicking.

45:16SPEAKER- What? - Yeah.

45:17SPEAKERBut you can set a quiet mode on the firmware

45:23SPEAKERfor most drives.

45:24SPEAKERIt's a flag on the, you set it up when you mount the drive,

45:28SPEAKERI think, on Linux, I can't remember.

45:30SPEAKER- Okay, so yeah, these large 7200 RPM drives I put in here

45:35SPEAKERare pretty noisy, but if you stick to 5400 RPM, I think,

45:40SPEAKERand have a decent, some kind of decent soundproofing

45:43SPEAKERin the enclosure, I think you'll probably be fine.

45:45SPEAKER- The other thing I was gonna say is if you spin,

45:49SPEAKERso the one thing I will say is your Synology NAS

45:51SPEAKERor whatever is going to be loud, probably.

45:56SPEAKERThey make consumerish models and you can set them

45:59SPEAKERto loud or quiet mode for cooling.

46:02SPEAKERI think my hunch is that if you,

46:04SPEAKERI have mine set on full blast for the fans all the time.

46:07SPEAKERI'm paranoid about hard drive temperatures, though,

46:09SPEAKER'cause one of the sure-firest ways

46:11SPEAKERto destroy your hard drives is to let them get hot

46:14SPEAKERand stay hot over a long period of time.

46:15SPEAKERSo yeah, anyway, the thing that most people hear

46:19SPEAKERon the hard drives is the head,

46:21SPEAKERis the seeking arm moving back, snapping back and forth,

46:24SPEAKERand then also the spin up and spin down.

46:26SPEAKERSo if your drives are spinning all the time,

46:28SPEAKERyou tend to not hear that as much

46:29SPEAKERas if they're turning on and off.

46:31SPEAKER- That's exactly it.

46:32SPEAKERWhen the NAS is idling, even with these newer drives,

46:34SPEAKERI hear nothing.

46:35SPEAKERIt's just when they're seeking, but that can be,

46:37SPEAKERit was actually like vibrating the case

46:39SPEAKERthat they're seeking the movement.

46:41SPEAKERMechanical stuff was so violent

46:43SPEAKERthat it was actually like vibrating everything.

46:45SPEAKER- If you get a case that has rubber grommets

46:47SPEAKERon the hard drive mounts, that helps with that.

46:50SPEAKER- This did, and that still wasn't enough,

46:51SPEAKERbut the grommets were on removable metal trays,

46:54SPEAKERso it was metal on metal in there.

46:55SPEAKER- Metal on metal is bad.

46:57SPEAKERI bought some felt tape and lined the runners on the trays,

47:00SPEAKERand that helped kind of brace stuff a little bit,

47:02SPEAKERso that's helped.

47:04SPEAKERI have a question for you,

47:05SPEAKERand also anybody listening to this.

47:07SPEAKER- Yes.

47:07SPEAKER- I'm just going to crowdsource

47:08SPEAKERmy troubleshooting here real quick.

47:09SPEAKER- So this is from Brad in San Francisco,

47:11SPEAKERis what you're saying?

47:13SPEAKER- So I bought, I don't know if I've talked about it on here,

47:14SPEAKERI just bought a little four bay USB hard drive enclosure.

47:19SPEAKERIt looks like a tiny PC, honestly.

47:22SPEAKERIt quite literally looks like a little miniature tower case,

47:25SPEAKERand it looked kind of rugged and industrial,

47:28SPEAKERlike old tower cases used to look.

47:30SPEAKER- Love it.

47:30SPEAKER- And I gather that it's got a tiny little power supply

47:33SPEAKERin there that like, I mean, it looks like-

47:35SPEAKER- Did you just plug in like a three prong AC plug in?

47:37SPEAKEROkay.

47:38SPEAKER- So I've just noticed, even when it is off,

47:41SPEAKERif it's plugged into power at all,

47:43SPEAKERit's making this little rhythmic kind of,

47:45SPEAKERI guess I would describe it as a popping sound

47:48SPEAKERevery, let's say half a second.

47:51SPEAKERIt's very faint, but it sounds electrical.

47:54SPEAKER- Does it have a fan?

47:56SPEAKER- No, it does have a fan, but this is literally like,

47:59SPEAKERplug it into the wall and it immediately starts.

48:02SPEAKER- Does it have a toggle switch,

48:03SPEAKERor there's no like power on off on the power supply?

48:06SPEAKER- It does have a, yeah, this is off.

48:07SPEAKERIt has a power switch, so this is 100% off,

48:11SPEAKERjust plugged in, like you pull the plug out of the wall,

48:13SPEAKERit stops, you stick the plug back in.

48:14SPEAKER- I don't like that.

48:16SPEAKER- And there are no, even with no drives in there,

48:17SPEAKERit's definitely coming from the electronics somewhere.

48:20SPEAKER- I do not like that.

48:22SPEAKERIt's very faint, but it's a little concerning to me.

48:25SPEAKER- Conceptually, that feels bad to me.

48:27SPEAKER- Yeah, okay.

48:29SPEAKER- That is the kind of thing

48:30SPEAKERI would probably call the manufacturer and be like,

48:31SPEAKER"Hey, this is making a noise."

48:32SPEAKER- Yeah, I guess I could engage with them.

48:34SPEAKERThey're not a well-supported--

48:37SPEAKER- I assume it's a Southeast Asian kind of like,

48:40SPEAKER"Hey, we bought some shit at the Shenzhen electronics markets

48:43SPEAKERand rebadged it, dealing."

48:45SPEAKER- It may have, yeah, it may have a warranty on it.

48:48SPEAKER- Yeah, it's made by Cyba, S-Y-B-A,

48:52SPEAKERif anybody's familiar with them.

48:53SPEAKERIt showed up with the badge of a different company

48:56SPEAKERon the front, it's a bad situation.

48:59SPEAKERThe other thing, I mean, this doesn't really matter,

49:02SPEAKERbut I bought it like three months ago

49:03SPEAKERand haven't actually gotten around to deploying it,

49:06SPEAKERso I've never even really actually used it

49:08SPEAKERand now I'm worried that it's electrically dangerous

49:10SPEAKERor something.

49:11SPEAKER- Where did you buy it?

49:12SPEAKERDid you buy it from Amazon?

49:13SPEAKER- Newegg, and it's way past return.

49:15SPEAKER- I was gonna say, Google the part number and clicking

49:19SPEAKERand see what comes up is where I would start probably.

49:22SPEAKER- Yeah, so like Googling, trying to Google electric,

49:26SPEAKERany kind of sound popping, something, something,

49:29SPEAKERyou get nothing but speaker interference results,

49:31SPEAKERso it's been very hard to try to troubleshoot

49:33SPEAKERwhat's going on here electrically.

49:34SPEAKER- So it's making noise without drives in.

49:36SPEAKERIt sounds like it could be the power supply

49:38SPEAKERturning on and off or something like that,

49:39SPEAKERlike there's a solenoid in there.

49:41SPEAKER- It's very faint, I hope it's not a problem.

49:44SPEAKERI mean, the noise isn't what worries me.

49:46SPEAKERIt's is this thing gonna catch on fire is what worries me.

49:49SPEAKER- When you turn it off, when you have drives in it,

49:51SPEAKERdoes it do it still?

49:53SPEAKER'Cause it could be a situation where like power,

49:55SPEAKERlike AC/DC power supplies that using computers

49:58SPEAKERneed to have a certain amount of load,

49:59SPEAKERand if it's expecting load from a hard drive in there

50:02SPEAKERand it's not seeing the hard drive load,

50:04SPEAKERit could be turning the power supply on and off

50:05SPEAKERto avoid damaging it.

50:06SPEAKER- So it's faint enough that if the drives were spinning,

50:09SPEAKERI don't think I'd be able to hear it.

50:11SPEAKER- Okay.

50:12SPEAKER- I've only been able to hear it

50:13SPEAKERwhen the unit is switched off.

50:14SPEAKER- I would put a drive in that is like a old drive

50:17SPEAKERand see what happens, see if it still does it.

50:20SPEAKER- Okay, I think it'll probably be hard to hear

50:22SPEAKERif it's doing it or not with even one drive in there.

50:26SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway.

50:28SPEAKER- Any electrically inclined folks out there have advice?

50:33SPEAKER- Yeah, my guess is the power supply's flipping on and off

50:37SPEAKERand it's making a capacitor noise.

50:39SPEAKER- Yeah.

50:42SPEAKER- Matt Bot question, are either of you plant people?

50:44SPEAKERIf so, any techie solutions for light or water?

50:48SPEAKER- I have a self-waterer on the garden, but that's it.

50:51SPEAKER- Outside?

50:52SPEAKER- Yeah, so it turns on and off.

50:54SPEAKERLike if it rains, it doesn't water.

50:57SPEAKERIt's drip stuff that we put around the base

51:00SPEAKERof the tomatoes and stuff, and it only fires

51:03SPEAKERif it's not been a certain amount of wet

51:05SPEAKERfor a certain number of days.

51:07SPEAKER- Okay, that's cool.

51:08SPEAKER- Yeah.

51:11SPEAKER- I am definitely a plant person to the extent

51:12SPEAKERthat I love having them around.

51:14SPEAKERI'm terrible at taking care of them.

51:16SPEAKER- It's hard.

51:17SPEAKERThe problem, honestly, it's like devices and batteries,

51:21SPEAKERright? - Yeah, yeah.

51:23SPEAKERCertain amount of maintenance.

51:24SPEAKER- A smartwatch that I charge every night is no problem.

51:27SPEAKERA smartwatch that I have to charge every two days,

51:29SPEAKERI never remember, half the time I forget to charge it.

51:32SPEAKER- Interesting, okay, I can see it.

51:35SPEAKERMy girlfriend, I have to give credit, is like amazing.

51:38SPEAKER- She's amazing on a lot of reasons, just in general.

51:40SPEAKER- She's good at a lot of things.

51:42SPEAKERShe's very good at resuscitating.

51:44SPEAKERWe had a ficus, Fred the ficus.

51:46SPEAKER- Oh no, you killed Fred?

51:48SPEAKER- Oh, Fred was on his last legs, I mean, like skeletal.

51:51SPEAKER- Yeah. - Three or four years ago,

51:53SPEAKERand that thing is just exploding in leaves now.

51:57SPEAKERIt's like if we have to trim Fred,

51:58SPEAKERhe grows a little too fast.

52:01SPEAKER- I brought a lemon tree back to life,

52:03SPEAKERwhich was pretty exciting. - Okay, okay.

52:05SPEAKER- It had black fungus, which is a thing

52:07SPEAKERthat happens here on the coast.

52:10SPEAKERI'll, the last thing I'll say,

52:12SPEAKERI like having a desk plant behind my monitors.

52:14SPEAKERI like something like, say, three-ish,

52:16SPEAKERthree to four feet tall, that can sit on the desk

52:19SPEAKERbehind the monitor and just provide some greenery

52:21SPEAKERin your sight line. - Yeah.

52:23SPEAKER- I've been buying a little bamboo for years that,

52:26SPEAKERso this room gets no direct sunlight at all,

52:30SPEAKERwhich is not a great place to work for 10 hours a day.

52:34SPEAKER- Well, I mean, when you need to see screens,

52:36SPEAKERit's pretty nice, but other than that, yeah.

52:38SPEAKER- Yeah, but so the point is, though, it's like,

52:40SPEAKERbamboo seems to do okay with no direct light,

52:43SPEAKERbut some amount of indirect, but it,

52:45SPEAKERI don't know if it's like I'm storing them

52:46SPEAKERin too small a vase or something,

52:48SPEAKERbut they always die after like three or four years.

52:50SPEAKERLike, it'll grow very nicely.

52:52SPEAKERIt'll gain two, three feet of height.

52:54SPEAKER- Yeah. - And then just die randomly

52:57SPEAKERfor some reason, so I'm actually on the hunt

52:59SPEAKERfor any other desk plants that do well

53:01SPEAKERwithout direct sunlight, if people have suggestions.

53:04SPEAKER- I used to do, I used to have a Schefflera in here,

53:07SPEAKERand then when I started doing VR stuff,

53:09SPEAKERI got rid of it because I kept knocking it over.

53:13SPEAKERThe, like, honestly, if I had more wall space,

53:17SPEAKERI would love to have like a greenery wall.

53:20SPEAKER- Yes. - That's just like

53:20SPEAKERa bunch of ferns and stuff. - Yeah.

53:22SPEAKER- Like low, like bottom of the,

53:23SPEAKERbottom of the forest type plants.

53:26SPEAKER- Yeah, wall plants are cool.

53:27SPEAKER- Yeah, but I don't have enough wall space as it is.

53:31SPEAKER- Yeah, plants are good.

53:33SPEAKER- Plants are good.

53:33SPEAKERI like a plant. - I think seeing

53:34SPEAKERsome greenery, like, dude, I,

53:36SPEAKERit's a little bit of a tangent here,

53:37SPEAKERbut since it's actually rained here again.

53:40SPEAKER- Yeah.

53:40SPEAKER- For the first time in like five years.

53:42SPEAKER- Yeah.

53:43SPEAKER- Everything is so green out there right now.

53:45SPEAKER- It's, look.

53:46SPEAKER- Like, I feel like I genuinely,

53:49SPEAKERwhen we go on walks right now,

53:50SPEAKERlike I feel it in my soul.

53:52SPEAKERThere's like actual grass and greenery all over the place,

53:56SPEAKERand it's like such an amazing change.

53:58SPEAKER- When Maximum PC was trying to recruit me

54:00SPEAKERto come move out here from ours,

54:02SPEAKERthey flew me out in February,

54:04SPEAKERand I came out and I was like,

54:05SPEAKER"Man, this is unbelievable.

54:06SPEAKEREverything's so green and lush.

54:08SPEAKERIt's so pretty all the time.

54:09SPEAKERThis is amazing."

54:11SPEAKERAnd like, you know, of course,

54:12SPEAKERwe're coming from East Coast winter,

54:13SPEAKERso like it was warm.

54:15SPEAKERI was like, "This is frigging awesome.

54:16SPEAKERWe should move here."

54:17SPEAKERAnd then I looked at what houses cost,

54:18SPEAKERand I was like, "Oh, hell no."

54:20SPEAKERAnd yeah, like A, false advertising,

54:25SPEAKER'cause it's green one month a year

54:27SPEAKERand brown the rest of the time.

54:28SPEAKERB, the tree pollen right now is so frigging nuts

54:32SPEAKERthat I, like, nobody, I have allergies.

54:34SPEAKERMy wife and daughter don't have allergies.

54:36SPEAKEREverybody in our family is stopped up right now,

54:38SPEAKERbecause like when you walk out in the morning

54:39SPEAKERand look at the car,

54:40SPEAKERthe car is just dusted yellow from all the tree pollen.

54:44SPEAKER- I'm glad to hear it's not just me.

54:45SPEAKERI've also been having some weird stuff going on

54:47SPEAKERthat I assumed was plants getting a little too excited.

54:52SPEAKER- Look, I was hopped up on goofballs yesterday,

54:57SPEAKERbecause I couldn't, I was so stopped up, I couldn't sleep.

55:00SPEAKERRight?

55:01SPEAKER- That'll happen.

55:02SPEAKER- Anyway, it sucks.

55:03SPEAKERThat's what had me end up with sinus surgery.

55:07SPEAKER- Yeah.

55:08SPEAKER- It's no good.

55:09SPEAKER- Yeah, no.

55:11SPEAKER- Anyway, I think it's time.

55:14SPEAKER- Okay, what you got?

55:15SPEAKER- I think the time has come.

55:17SPEAKERYou know what time it is, it's cake batter time.

55:20SPEAKER- Okay, let's have it.

55:21SPEAKER- These are getting really elaborate.

55:24SPEAKER- Oh yeah, it's almost like we're encouraging

55:26SPEAKERthe cake batter.

55:28SPEAKER- All right, as a joke,

55:30SPEAKERa goblin handcuffs your legs to a chair.

55:33SPEAKERThe hardware store is 10 blocks away

55:36SPEAKERand the next bus stop away from where you currently are,

55:39SPEAKERyou are at a bus stop.

55:41SPEAKERDo you walk to the hardware store or take the bus?

55:43SPEAKERAlso the hardware store refuses to lend you

55:45SPEAKERa set of bolt cutters and makes you buy some,

55:47SPEAKERthat's capitalism, baby.

55:50SPEAKER- Okay, so I'm standing, I have,

55:52SPEAKERI'm sitting on the chair kind of,

55:55SPEAKERbut my legs are attached to the chair.

55:57SPEAKERSo if I wanna walk, I have to kind of penguin waddle

55:59SPEAKERis what I'm assuming here.

56:00SPEAKER- He didn't specify actually like, yeah.

56:02SPEAKERAre you, are you so bound to the chair

56:04SPEAKERthat you can't stand up from it?

56:06SPEAKER- I think I can't, how would I get on the bus?

56:09SPEAKER- Yeah, that doesn't work.

56:10SPEAKERIt's gotta be loose enough that you can at least ambulate.

56:14SPEAKER- I feel like if my legs were handcuffed to the chair,

56:16SPEAKERI couldn't lift my legs up.

56:17SPEAKERI'd have to like do a pull up to get onto the bus.

56:21SPEAKERAnd that's maybe it was like a handicap accessible

56:23SPEAKERramp type situation.

56:24SPEAKER- If I can walk freely enough,

56:27SPEAKERI'm gonna walk the 10 blocks.

56:29SPEAKER- Oh, I would take the bus.

56:30SPEAKER- Also, we didn't specify what kind of chair here,

56:32SPEAKERassuming it's like a chair that like a...

56:34SPEAKER- I assume it's like a wooden frame chair,

56:35SPEAKERnot like a recliner or something.

56:37SPEAKER- Like a cafeteria chair or something.

56:40SPEAKER- I mean, it has to have a cross piece in the front.

56:42SPEAKEROtherwise the handcuffs would just come off the bottom

56:43SPEAKERwhen you lift the chair up.

56:44SPEAKER- Yeah, fair, fair.

56:45SPEAKERSomething, something carryable is what I mean.

56:47SPEAKERLike small and light enough that you could carry it, I assume

56:50SPEAKERor this wouldn't, this choice wouldn't work.

56:52SPEAKERI would...

56:53SPEAKER- Also, it's pretty hard to bolt cutter through handcuffs.

56:56SPEAKERIt's easier to just get a small metal shim

56:58SPEAKERand jimmy 'em open probably would be my advice.

57:00SPEAKER- Fair, fair.

57:01SPEAKER- Then you get free handcuffs too.

57:03SPEAKERSo you got that going for you.

57:04SPEAKER- Maybe this is too much time spent riding the 38

57:07SPEAKERin San Francisco, but you are not getting a chair

57:09SPEAKERonto that bus in addition to yourself.

57:12SPEAKER- Yeah, I feel like you would definitely be an enemy

57:13SPEAKERof the people if you walked on with like a chair

57:16SPEAKERattached to you onto any of the buses

57:17SPEAKERI've ever ridden in San Francisco.

57:19SPEAKER- And that's assuming there wasn't enough room

57:21SPEAKERto get it on in the first place.

57:23SPEAKER- Well, like I can imagine the look

57:25SPEAKERthe bus driver would give you and it would be like,

57:27SPEAKERwhat the fuck are you thinking, man?

57:29SPEAKERJust don't waste my time with this.

57:31SPEAKERI don't have time for this nonsense.

57:32SPEAKER- Yes, don't step with this chair.

57:37SPEAKEROkay, you go to a fancy restaurant

57:39SPEAKERand you see a corn dog listed under the main dishes

57:41SPEAKERfor $21.

57:42SPEAKER- Oh, hell yeah.

57:43SPEAKER- Would this intrigue you enough to order it?

57:45SPEAKER- Fuck yeah.

57:46SPEAKER- What would you consider a gourmet corn dog to be?

57:48SPEAKERThere can be more than one corn dog

57:50SPEAKERon the plate when it arrives.

57:51SPEAKER- Look, if I go to a fancy restaurant,

57:53SPEAKERsee a corn dog on the plate,

57:54SPEAKERI am 100% ordering the corn dog,

57:56SPEAKEReven if it's just a taster for the table.

57:58SPEAKER- I think he nailed it.

58:00SPEAKERI think like $21 corn dog has got me interested enough

58:03SPEAKERthat I need to know.

58:04SPEAKER- Yeah, is it like a bespoke hot dog?

58:07SPEAKERAre they making the hot dog by hand in the back?

58:09SPEAKERIs it some sort of like a novel corn meal batter?

58:14SPEAKERI mean, is it just a really elevated good corn dog?

58:17SPEAKERWho knows?

58:18SPEAKER- Awesome, well, it's probably could just be

58:19SPEAKERthe best batter you've ever tasted.

58:21SPEAKERI'm Googling deconstructed corn dog now

58:24SPEAKERto see if there's like, or how about fine dining corn dog?

58:27SPEAKER- Yeah.

58:28SPEAKER- Somebody like, has the French Laundry

58:30SPEAKERever served a corn dog?

58:31SPEAKER- I don't think the French Laundry

58:32SPEAKERwould have sort of served a corn dog.

58:34SPEAKER- You know, they don't roll that way?

58:36SPEAKER- No, French Laundry will deconstruct something French

58:39SPEAKERand fancy, but probably not a corn dog

58:41SPEAKERwould be my experience.

58:42SPEAKER- I see, I see.

58:43SPEAKER- I mean, maybe there's like a foie gras corn dog,

58:50SPEAKERbut I don't think so.

58:52SPEAKERI feel like a fine dining corn dog.

58:56SPEAKERLike there's a lot of pictures with like aioli

58:58SPEAKERand stuff on top.

59:01SPEAKERI'm seeing, you know, this is a pretty fancy list.

59:04SPEAKERThis one looks like a hush puppy with a stick on it,

59:06SPEAKERbasically.

59:07SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm kind of seeing some stuff here.

59:11SPEAKER- I like a corn dog. - Harry, North Carolina.

59:12SPEAKER- Yep, that's a, yeah.

59:14SPEAKER- Adjacent to my old stomping ground.

59:18SPEAKERThe Heron restaurant has a gourmet corn dog,

59:23SPEAKERwhich yes, definitely looks kind of like a hush puppy

59:26SPEAKERwith a little fancy toothpick in it

59:27SPEAKERand with some like pineapple sort of puree on top.

59:31SPEAKERI wonder what the meat is.

59:33SPEAKER- The Korean corn dogs,

59:36SPEAKERthat's a street food thing that I've had in LA sometimes,

59:38SPEAKERlike food trucks and stuff.

59:41SPEAKERAnd it's like, they put, it's like sweet and salty.

59:46SPEAKERSo the outside is covered with sugar and salt

59:48SPEAKERand then you put mustard and ketchup on it

59:49SPEAKERand there's stuff inside, gooey stuff inside

59:52SPEAKERand just a little dog.

59:54SPEAKER- That sounds really good.

59:55SPEAKER- It's pretty good.

59:56SPEAKEROh, they don't have to have hot dogs in them in Korea,

59:59SPEAKERapparently, I didn't know that.

1:00:00SPEAKER- Oh, wait, it has to be some kind of meat though, right?

1:00:03SPEAKER- This one looks like it's just cheese.

1:00:05SPEAKER- Oh, interesting, okay, fair.

1:00:08SPEAKERLooks like this fancy, this gourmet hot dog

1:00:10SPEAKERor gourmet corn dog,

1:00:11SPEAKERit looks like they're making their own sausage

1:00:12SPEAKERto put in there.

1:00:14SPEAKERI don't know why this popped into my head

1:00:15SPEAKERwhen I see like $21, I corndog three ways.

1:00:20SPEAKERLike if that was three corndogs,

1:00:22SPEAKEReach one a different take on the corndog,

1:00:24SPEAKERI think that would be worth $21.

1:00:26SPEAKER- I mean, look, realistically right now,

1:00:29SPEAKERwhat it costs to buy any food in San Francisco.

1:00:32SPEAKER- Oh yeah.

1:00:33SPEAKER- It's like 21 bucks isn't that expensive for like,

1:00:37SPEAKERif you get a burger or someplace that you have a table

1:00:39SPEAKERto sit down and it's not McDonald's, it's gonna be 21 bucks.

1:00:42SPEAKER- Yeah, yes.

1:00:43SPEAKER- We kind of basically don't eat out anymore.

1:00:46SPEAKERWe never did much, but we kind of never do anymore.

1:00:49SPEAKER- We do a lot of takeout.

1:00:50SPEAKERWe do a lot of like tie and stuff like that,

1:00:53SPEAKERstuff that we don't make at home.

1:00:54SPEAKER- Like we're kind of not even buying eggs right now,

1:00:57SPEAKERwhich makes me want to die

1:00:58SPEAKERbecause I can't live without eggs, but they're so expensive.

1:01:01SPEAKER- They've gotten less expensive here.

1:01:02SPEAKER- Have they?

1:01:03SPEAKER- Yeah. - Okay.

1:01:04SPEAKER- The price is down for us.

1:01:06SPEAKER- The thing of eggs we were typically buying

1:01:08SPEAKERwas up to like $18 at one point.

1:01:10SPEAKER- Holy shit, that is crazy.

1:01:11SPEAKER- The most we paid was eight bucks, I think.

1:01:14SPEAKERNine bucks. - That's a lot of eggs.

1:01:15SPEAKER- Okay. - It's bulk eggs,

1:01:17SPEAKERbut still that was still like double.

1:01:20SPEAKER- The thing that we do, yeah, like I'll do,

1:01:26SPEAKERokay, I ordered sushi the other night for dinner,

1:01:29SPEAKERwhich was kind of expensive, but.

1:01:31SPEAKER- Yes, that will happen. - Totally worth it.

1:01:35SPEAKERAnyway. - Okay, all right, sure.

1:01:38SPEAKER- You got one more?

1:01:41SPEAKER- One more cake?

1:01:42SPEAKER- Well, yeah, whatever, whatever you feel like.

1:01:44SPEAKER- Gosh, there's a lot to choose from here, I don't know.

1:01:49SPEAKERDid the corn dog one?

1:01:52SPEAKERLet's see, I don't know, I'm spoiled for choice here.

1:01:59SPEAKERIf you were both in a horror movie

1:02:00SPEAKERand one of you had a cell phone and one had a gun,

1:02:02SPEAKERwho do you think would die first?

1:02:04SPEAKER- Hold on, what is that one?

1:02:06SPEAKERSay that again.

1:02:07SPEAKER- If you were both in a horror movie,

1:02:09SPEAKERone of you had a cell phone and the other had a gun,

1:02:11SPEAKERwho do you think would die first?

1:02:12SPEAKER- I would die first in a horror movie.

1:02:14SPEAKER- Wow, you think?

1:02:16SPEAKER- Yeah, I think so.

1:02:17SPEAKERYou have a well-honed survival instinct

1:02:19SPEAKERand I tend to make bad choices in those situations, yeah.

1:02:23SPEAKERLook, anybody who's watched me play PUBG or Fortnite,

1:02:26SPEAKERI have a very clear and well-defined death wish.

1:02:30SPEAKER- Hey, only the paranoid survive.

1:02:33SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1:02:34SPEAKERI'm like, I am curious and willing to take risks.

1:02:38SPEAKERIt's why I love those extraction shooters so much

1:02:40SPEAKERbecause I make the bad choice

1:02:42SPEAKERand it often is hilarious and good,

1:02:44SPEAKERbut sometimes it goes real bad, so, you know.

1:02:47SPEAKER- Sometimes you have to YOLO.

1:02:49SPEAKER- I'll always take the low percentage chance

1:02:51SPEAKERfor the content, you know.

1:02:53SPEAKER- Well, the stakes are pretty low there, to be fair.

1:02:56SPEAKER- That's true.

1:02:57SPEAKERI mean, I don't know, man, a DMZ game,

1:02:58SPEAKERit takes like four or five minutes

1:02:59SPEAKERto get back in the next game

1:03:00SPEAKER'cause they have so fucking many menus.

1:03:02SPEAKER- Fair, that is fair.

1:03:06SPEAKER- Why did "No Whammies" drop out of common parlance?

1:03:08SPEAKER- Oh, because you could cheat at,

1:03:12SPEAKERyou know what "No Whammies" is from, right?

1:03:14SPEAKER- I don't, I don't even know why, I've heard it before,

1:03:17SPEAKERbut I couldn't actually tell you officially what it means.

1:03:20SPEAKER- Okay, "No Whammies" is from an '80s game show

1:03:22SPEAKERcalled "Press Your Luck."

1:03:23SPEAKER- Okay.

1:03:24SPEAKER- There was, the way the game show worked

1:03:26SPEAKERwas there was a big board that was like in a,

1:03:28SPEAKERit was like, it looked like a board game board.

1:03:30SPEAKERIt was like a circular track,

1:03:32SPEAKERa square track around the edge of a big square

1:03:34SPEAKERand you would, the players would earn spins on that board

1:03:39SPEAKERand the lights would go around the board and light up

1:03:42SPEAKERand when you hit the plunger,

1:03:44SPEAKERthe light would stop on one of the boxes

1:03:45SPEAKERaround the edge of the board

1:03:46SPEAKERand that's what you would win.

1:03:48SPEAKERAnd I think you won spins by doing trivia questions,

1:03:51SPEAKERI can't remember that part.

1:03:53SPEAKERThe problem was the board was a predictable pattern.

1:03:57SPEAKERIt wasn't random 'cause it was all just electronics.

1:03:59SPEAKERSo whoever made the board made it go

1:04:01SPEAKERin the same pattern all the time.

1:04:02SPEAKERSo somebody who was good at it

1:04:04SPEAKERcould hit the expensive space every single time

1:04:06SPEAKERand that's what ended up happening

1:04:08SPEAKERtoward the end of that, the run of that show

1:04:10SPEAKERand then they had to change the board

1:04:11SPEAKERor they canceled the show.

1:04:12SPEAKERI can't remember how, like game show drama

1:04:15SPEAKERis a whole different realm of drama

1:04:17SPEAKERthan the other dramas we've covered on the podcast.

1:04:20SPEAKERBut yeah, so no whammies, the hey, lose your spin.

1:04:27SPEAKERIf you hit the whammy, you lost the rest of your spins

1:04:29SPEAKERor lost your turn, whatever.

1:04:31SPEAKERAnd so people would say, the thing they would shout

1:04:33SPEAKERas they were getting ready to hit the plunger

1:04:35SPEAKERand staring intently at the board

1:04:37SPEAKERtrying to suss out the pattern was no whammies, no whammies,

1:04:40SPEAKERno whammies, no whammies, and stop.

1:04:42SPEAKERAnd then once press here, the whammy was a little red

1:04:46SPEAKERkind of devil-y looking guy, he had capes.

1:04:50SPEAKERUsually if you hit a whammy,

1:04:51SPEAKERthere was like a little cute cartoon

1:04:53SPEAKERthat they'd like video toast her up

1:04:55SPEAKERon the bottom of the screen and he'd come across

1:04:57SPEAKERand steal their money and take their turns.

1:04:59SPEAKER- That sounds fun.

1:05:01SPEAKER- Yeah, it was like, man, is it?

1:05:05SPEAKERMaking, of the careers that I am jealous of,

1:05:11SPEAKERgame show designer in the '80s is one of them.

1:05:14SPEAKER- Okay, I knew you were gonna say designer and not host.

1:05:17SPEAKER- No, never host.

1:05:18SPEAKERAlthough microphone envy, yeah, maybe.

1:05:20SPEAKER- The Bob Barker microphone is pretty awesome,

1:05:22SPEAKERbut getting to make the stuff that they used

1:05:25SPEAKERwould be the fun part.

1:05:26SPEAKER- Yeah, coming up with the horrible things

1:05:29SPEAKERyou could make people do to win $500 in 1987, pretty good.

1:05:33SPEAKERI mean, I blame Ronald Reagan

1:05:35SPEAKERfor the people's hunger for petty cash.

1:05:39SPEAKER- I blame him for a lot of things.

1:05:40SPEAKER- Yeah, it turns out, but also the game shows

1:05:42SPEAKERwere pretty good back then.

1:05:44SPEAKERIt was the best part about a snow day was staying home,

1:05:48SPEAKERyou get to watch a game show.

1:05:51SPEAKERThe bad time was always when the soap opera was flipped on

1:05:53SPEAKERis my memory of that.

1:05:55SPEAKER- Definitely, for sure.

1:05:56SPEAKER- I booked a couple of dead hours of TV

1:05:57SPEAKERbefore X-Men were on.

1:05:58SPEAKERBut anyway.

1:05:59SPEAKER- Yes, yes.

1:06:00SPEAKERTo answer the question, I'm going to say,

1:06:02SPEAKERwhy did it fall out of favor?

1:06:03SPEAKERBecause it's from the '80s

1:06:04SPEAKERand no matter how young you are right now,

1:06:08SPEAKERone day everything you knew will turn to dust.

1:06:11SPEAKER- Yeah, at some point, everybody who's ever seen an episode

1:06:14SPEAKERof "Press Your Luck" will be dead.

1:06:15SPEAKER- Uh-huh.

1:06:16SPEAKER- Grim, grim but real.

1:06:19SPEAKER- Yes.

1:06:21SPEAKERWe're here to answer the tough questions,

1:06:23SPEAKERbut I think we've run out of time for questions.

1:06:25SPEAKER- No whammies, Brad, no whammies this week.

1:06:28SPEAKER- No whammies.

1:06:29SPEAKER- Let's do the thing we do at the end of the show

1:06:32SPEAKERwhere we thank our patrons.

1:06:33SPEAKERThank you, patrons.

1:06:34SPEAKER- Yeah, thank you, patrons.

1:06:35SPEAKER- I've enjoyed getting to know our patrons a little bit more

1:06:37SPEAKERon the tech pod Mastodon at mastodon.contact.town

1:06:41SPEAKERthis last week.

1:06:44SPEAKERThe local and federated feeds

1:06:45SPEAKERare filled with interesting things

1:06:47SPEAKERand then an occasional biological necessity.

1:06:50SPEAKERThank you to everyone involved.

1:06:54SPEAKERWe would like to thank all of our patrons, as always,

1:06:57SPEAKERbut we would especially like to thank

1:06:59SPEAKERour executive producer tier patrons

1:07:01SPEAKER'cause Brad Wilme, the tech pod,

1:07:03SPEAKERis a 100% patron-supported show.

1:07:06SPEAKERWithout you all, we wouldn't be here.

1:07:08SPEAKERSo thank you to everybody,

1:07:10SPEAKERbut thank you especially to Nick Johnston,

1:07:12SPEAKERPaddle Creek Games, Makers of Fractured Veil,

1:07:15SPEAKERAndrew Slosky, Octothorpe, Bunny Crimes, Just Wedge,

1:07:18SPEAKERJoel Krauska, Twinkle Twinkie, David Allen,

1:07:20SPEAKERand James Kamik.

1:07:21SPEAKERBrad, this weekend, I got texts

1:07:26SPEAKERfrom several mutual friends of ours at the same time

1:07:28SPEAKERthat were like, "Who the hell is Octothorpe Bunny Crimes?"

1:07:30SPEAKER(laughing)

1:07:32SPEAKERAnd they were all gathered together in a get-together

1:07:36SPEAKERand they were asking these questions

1:07:38SPEAKERand they were like,

1:07:38SPEAKER"The only way we can find this out is to ask Will."

1:07:40SPEAKERAnd I was like, "I honestly don't know

1:07:42SPEAKERbecause the email address for Octothorpe Bunny Crimes

1:07:46SPEAKERis like there's no real name associated with this account.

1:07:49SPEAKERThat is the real name associated with the account."

1:07:52SPEAKER- Bunny Crimes is everyone has no one.

1:07:54SPEAKERBunny Crimes could be any of us right now.

1:07:58SPEAKER- I think, I'm pretty sure I've mentioned to you,

1:08:00SPEAKERI did not come up with this,

1:08:01SPEAKERbut I laughed when I read it,

1:08:02SPEAKERthe idea of the Octothorpe Bunny Crimes Cinematic Universe.

1:08:06SPEAKER- I mean, look, it encompasses us.

1:08:08SPEAKERMy Twitch stream, I think nextlander stuff

1:08:11SPEAKERprobably is impacted. - Nextlander for sure.

1:08:13SPEAKERI believe Shift+F1 might be in there.

1:08:15SPEAKER- Several of my favorite like water dance over on Twitch

1:08:18SPEAKERis part of the Octothorpe Bunny Crimes Cinematic Universe.

1:08:21SPEAKER- You know, I enjoy the entertaining the mystery.

1:08:25SPEAKERThe questions are usually more fun than answers.

1:08:27SPEAKERSo keeping it vague and mysterious is a lot of fun.

1:08:32SPEAKER- Yeah, but we do appreciate the support from everybody

1:08:34SPEAKERand it does let us continue making the show.

1:08:36SPEAKERAnd you can find out more about the Patreon

1:08:38SPEAKERat patreon.com/techpod.

1:08:40SPEAKERAnd it's patreon.com/techpod.

1:08:43SPEAKERAnd I have investigated the ghost thing.

1:08:46SPEAKERI think at some point we'll set up the ghost

1:08:49SPEAKERif people are interested in that.

1:08:50SPEAKERLike there was-- - Give up the ghost.

1:08:52SPEAKER- No, we're not gonna give up the ghost.

1:08:53SPEAKERWe wanna move everybody to ghost.

1:08:55SPEAKERBut people were very supportive of that idea

1:08:57SPEAKERand like getting us the slightly larger cut

1:09:01SPEAKERis a nice thought.

1:09:03SPEAKERSo I think that'll do it for us this week.

1:09:05SPEAKERNext week, some secret thing that we can't talk about now,

1:09:08SPEAKERbut we'll be able to talk about then, I guess, I don't know.

1:09:11SPEAKER- Oh, it's the-- - Is it secret?

1:09:13SPEAKER- No, I don't think so.

1:09:15SPEAKERIt's the PlayStation VR too.

1:09:17SPEAKER- Oh, well, nevermind then, I feel like a jerk.

1:09:19SPEAKERReviews are out and it will be out by then.

1:09:22SPEAKER- Do people like it?

1:09:24SPEAKER- Seems like it. - Okay.

1:09:25SPEAKER- I have not had a chance to try it

1:09:26SPEAKERas of the time of this recording,

1:09:28SPEAKERbut people seem very bullish on the hardware.

1:09:31SPEAKERIt's really just the paucity of games launching with it.

1:09:35SPEAKER- I mean--

1:09:36SPEAKER- It's kind of "Horizon Call of the Mountain"

1:09:38SPEAKERand a lot of stuff that has been out

1:09:40SPEAKERor is also coming out on other headsets.

1:09:42SPEAKER- Is Facebook releasing Beat Saber on it?

1:09:45SPEAKER- Beat Saber's been out on original PSVR.

1:09:47SPEAKER- Yeah, I know, but there's no back compat, right?

1:09:50SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't think the update is gonna be out for launch.

1:09:53SPEAKERSome games are getting updated for launch,

1:09:55SPEAKERbut I don't think it's--

1:09:57SPEAKER- Oh, it is coming to PSVR too.

1:09:58SPEAKER- It is, yeah, but I don't know if,

1:10:00SPEAKERsorting out what's launching on release day

1:10:03SPEAKERand what's coming within a month or two

1:10:05SPEAKERhas been kind of tough.

1:10:06SPEAKER'Cause even stuff like "Grand Charisma 7"

1:10:09SPEAKERand "Resident Evil 8" are getting VR modes.

1:10:12SPEAKERA lot of existing stuff is gonna get an upgrade

1:10:15SPEAKERor you can like pay 10 bucks in some cases to get

1:10:17SPEAKERthe new version.

1:10:19SPEAKERNot a lot of truly exclusive software besides "Horizon."

1:10:22SPEAKER- The launch window, the launch window scam continues.

1:10:27SPEAKERHey, this is gonna come out inside the launch window.

1:10:29SPEAKERThe launch window is three years long, by the way.

1:10:31SPEAKER- They were pretty good on the PlayStation blog,

1:10:33SPEAKERI'll give them credit.

1:10:33SPEAKERThey defined the launch window as basically

1:10:35SPEAKERin the first month after launch.

1:10:36SPEAKER- Oh, okay, that's not too bad.

1:10:37SPEAKER- Which is a totally reasonable window.

1:10:39SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, look, it's hard to get,

1:10:41SPEAKERconsole games are hard, it turns out.

1:10:43SPEAKER- Yeah, no, I don't begrudge anyone

1:10:46SPEAKERnot being able to ship a video game.

1:10:48SPEAKER- As a former VR dev,

1:10:52SPEAKERlike the PC VR has always been the fastest

1:10:57SPEAKERand loosest of the development platforms.

1:11:00SPEAKERAnd going from there to a real-ass console game

1:11:03SPEAKERcert process is, it is hard, so.

1:11:08SPEAKER- Yeah, we'll dig into it next week.

1:11:10SPEAKER- I'm excited to hear about it.

1:11:11SPEAKER- I'm gonna try to find info on like, you know,

1:11:14SPEAKERsome people have gotten their hands on it early

1:11:15SPEAKERand people are already plugging it into USB-C ports

1:11:18SPEAKERon computers to see what that does.

1:11:19SPEAKERLike there's some interesting stuff to talk about there.

1:11:21SPEAKER- It's like a dual sense.

1:11:23SPEAKER- Yeah, we'll get into it next week.

1:11:24SPEAKER- Cool, that sounds great.

1:11:25SPEAKERI will talk to you then.

1:11:26SPEAKERSee you everybody next week.

1:11:28SPEAKERThanks for listening, bye.

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