154: Gas Station Tri-Tip

00:00SPEAKER- I had a real good barbecue sandwich

00:01SPEAKERon the way back from LA.

00:03SPEAKER- What kind of barbecue are we talking?

00:05SPEAKER- Like a sliced tri-tip with a little bit

00:07SPEAKERof a kind of sweet and tangy,

00:09SPEAKERbut just a little tiny kick of a sauce there on a toasted.

00:13SPEAKERThey did a long, like soft sourdough roll that was toasted.

00:17SPEAKER- Okay.

00:18SPEAKER- With some butter on it.

00:19SPEAKERIt looked like on the grill, maybe.

00:20SPEAKER- That sounds pretty good.

00:21SPEAKERCan you identify the three tips?

00:23SPEAKER- Well, there's three of them.

00:24SPEAKER- Right, yes.

00:25SPEAKER- Yeah. - That's right there

00:26SPEAKERin the name. - There's one, two, and three.

00:28SPEAKER- Yes.

00:29SPEAKER- Which one you cut from?

00:30SPEAKER- I don't.

00:31SPEAKER- You cut against the grain.

00:32SPEAKERSo you cut down the long, one of the two long sides,

00:34SPEAKERbut I always have to do two cuts to figure out,

00:36SPEAKER'cause I never get, it's like the USB-A port.

00:38SPEAKERI never get it right on the first try.

00:39SPEAKER- Oh, wait, hang on.

00:40SPEAKERSo tri-tip is basically just another word for triangle.

00:42SPEAKERIt's like a polygonal beef is what we're saying.

00:45SPEAKER- Yeah. - It's triangular beef.

00:46SPEAKER- It's like a three-sided, it's like an isohedron.

00:51SPEAKER- I see, okay.

00:51SPEAKERI assumed that the tips corresponded

00:54SPEAKERto specific parts of the animal.

00:55SPEAKERI didn't realize it was just the shape of the cut.

00:57SPEAKER- Yeah, no, I think it's called tri-tip

00:59SPEAKERbecause it's just the shape of it.

01:00SPEAKERBoy, now I have questions.

01:02SPEAKER- Okay, this is like less complicated than I thought,

01:05SPEAKERbut also I like the idea of polygonal beef.

01:08SPEAKER- Okay, so I'm gonna tell you a secret.

01:10SPEAKERI had the sandwich once on the way down to LA,

01:13SPEAKERand it was so good, and we ended up stopping

01:15SPEAKERat the same place to charge,

01:16SPEAKERthen went back to get it again on the way back.

01:18SPEAKER- Hang on, I started to say,

01:19SPEAKERdo you want to name and shame the establishment,

01:21SPEAKERbut it's not, what's the opposite of name and fame?

01:24SPEAKERDo you want to name and fame the restaurant?

01:26SPEAKER- Yeah, we can talk about the restaurant.

01:27SPEAKERSo Harris Ranch is this place midway between,

01:29SPEAKERit's pretty much exactly at the midway point

01:31SPEAKERbetween LA and San Francisco on five.

01:33SPEAKERIt's like maybe 20 or 30 miles north.

01:35SPEAKERAnd it's been there for a really long time,

01:37SPEAKERand the restaurant is famously kind of

01:39SPEAKERlike steakhouse overpriced,

01:41SPEAKERplus the people are a little bit rude,

01:42SPEAKERand really the food's not that good.

01:45SPEAKER- Rude in a snooty way, like upper crust of society,

01:49SPEAKERor like rude in a like I don't have time for your shit,

01:52SPEAKERI've just got a job to do.

01:53SPEAKER- Kind of the latter, so.

01:54SPEAKER- Harris Ranch, is that it?

01:55SPEAKERI feel like I've heard of it.

01:57SPEAKER- Harris Ranch, we used to stop there

01:59SPEAKERand get lunch on the way to LA

02:01SPEAKERwhen we would go for tested shoots and stuff like that,

02:03SPEAKER'cause we'd often drive down rather than fly.

02:06SPEAKERSo we stopped, there's a bunch of,

02:09SPEAKERthe reason we stopped there is there's a buttload

02:10SPEAKERof chargers, so you never have to wait.

02:12SPEAKERAnd often I will go in and pick up food

02:15SPEAKERfrom the Harris Ranch restaurant,

02:16SPEAKERwhich is like a big fancy sit down place

02:18SPEAKERwith like Americana stuff jammed on the walls,

02:21SPEAKERand like they have a bazillion tables and whatever.

02:24SPEAKERNow, the thing I didn't realize

02:26SPEAKERis that there's a Harris Ranch Express

02:28SPEAKERin the gas station next to the place.

02:31SPEAKER- Gas station here, gas station tri-tip.

02:34SPEAKER- Gas station barbecue.

02:35SPEAKERI'm gonna go and tell you, I have not had over the years

02:37SPEAKERa lot of bad barbecue in gas stations.

02:40SPEAKER- Wait a minute, have you had a lot of barbecue

02:43SPEAKERin gas stations in general?

02:45SPEAKER- Don't you have, like in Tennessee,

02:47SPEAKERwhen you're driving around Tennessee,

02:48SPEAKERyou often will pull into like a gas station

02:50SPEAKERand there's like a dude with a oil barrel smoker out back.

02:54SPEAKER- What?

02:55SPEAKERDo you not get that in North Carolina?

02:57SPEAKER- No, barbecue establishments are unto themselves.

03:00SPEAKER- Oh. - In my experience.

03:02SPEAKER- No, there was this place in Knoxville

03:04SPEAKERthat was like, it was literally a,

03:07SPEAKERI want to say it was like a sit-go station.

03:08SPEAKERIt was like a third tier gas station,

03:10SPEAKERsomebody that doesn't do marketing.

03:12SPEAKERAnd there was a guy that would make ribs out back

03:15SPEAKERand they were frigging incredible ribs.

03:18SPEAKER- I bet they were the best ribs of your life.

03:20SPEAKER- I mean, let's not get crazy,

03:22SPEAKERbut they were pretty good ribs

03:23SPEAKERand very good for gas station.

03:24SPEAKERAnyway, so yeah.

03:26SPEAKERSo like I'll always eat gas station barbecue.

03:28SPEAKERYou need to get in there and try that.

03:30SPEAKER'Cause if somebody has a gas station,

03:31SPEAKERthey're like, you know what?

03:32SPEAKERWe need to open a barbecue place here.

03:33SPEAKERProbably gonna be pretty good.

03:35SPEAKER- And they got lots of oil right there, just ready to go.

03:38SPEAKER- Oh, Brad, that's the wrong kind of oil.

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04:08SPEAKER- Welcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod.

04:11SPEAKERI'm Will.

04:11SPEAKER- I'm Brad.

04:12SPEAKER- Hello, Brad.

04:13SPEAKER- Hi, welcome back.

04:15SPEAKER- I have returned.

04:18SPEAKERI went to a wedding.

04:19SPEAKERI went to two theme parks, three theme parks.

04:22SPEAKER- Oh, I didn't wait.

04:22SPEAKERWas the wedding in the same trip as the theme parks?

04:24SPEAKER- The whole point of the trip was to go to the wedding

04:26SPEAKERand the theme parks we tacked on.

04:28SPEAKER- Oh, I see.

04:29SPEAKERWas it a theme park wedding?

04:31SPEAKER- It was not a theme park wedding,

04:32SPEAKERbut it was a wedding that this was the, I think, fifth try,

04:38SPEAKERbecause it was originally,

04:39SPEAKERlike the invites for the wedding originally went on

04:41SPEAKERin February of 2020 for October of that year.

04:44SPEAKERAnd they kept postponing and postponing and postponing.

04:46SPEAKERAnd they almost did it earlier this year.

04:49SPEAKERAnd then everybody got the Rona the morning

04:51SPEAKERbefore the wedding and they had to cancel.

04:54SPEAKER- Wait, wait, canceled the entire wedding the day before?

04:58SPEAKER- They had to, they had people in from around the world

05:02SPEAKERwho had to go home and without,

05:04SPEAKERwithout witnessing the union of their friends.

05:06SPEAKER- And like, you're probably eating four to five figures

05:11SPEAKERof like, I assume when you cancel that late,

05:13SPEAKERthere's a lot of stuff that's non-refundable.

05:15SPEAKER- I didn't ask.

05:17SPEAKERIt seemed like, look, I'm sure it was expensive.

05:20SPEAKERIt was a lovely wedding.

05:21SPEAKERIt was a great ceremony.

05:22SPEAKERWe had a really good time.

05:23SPEAKER- Oh, that's good. - A bunch of good people.

05:24SPEAKER- Yeah. - Yeah.

05:26SPEAKERAnd I got to meet, it was Frank,

05:29SPEAKERwho I play PUBG with, ever.

05:31SPEAKERI play PUBG at Fortnite with all the time.

05:33SPEAKERIt was his wedding. - Congratulations, Frank.

05:34SPEAKER- So yeah, congratulations, Frank.

05:36SPEAKERBut yeah, so we went down for a wedding.

05:38SPEAKERWe ended up going a few days early for Disneyland.

05:41SPEAKER- Yes, and that's what we're here to talk about.

05:43SPEAKERThe tech of modern theme parks, I guess?

05:48SPEAKER- So I hadn't been to a theme park

05:50SPEAKERsince the phone era started.

05:52SPEAKER- Really? - Since the rise

05:54SPEAKERof the modern smartphone.

05:55SPEAKER- Dang, really?

05:56SPEAKERThat's like, I mean, are we saying,

05:58SPEAKERare we defining that as like 2008?

05:59SPEAKER- I think 2007, 2008, probably when apps started.

06:02SPEAKERI don't know.

06:04SPEAKERI went to Disney World in like 2005,

06:07SPEAKERand then I've been to, I think, Great America a little bit

06:09SPEAKERin the early 2009, 2008, kind of like before

06:13SPEAKEReveryone was expected to have a phone.

06:16SPEAKER'Cause if you remember, and people may not at this point,

06:19SPEAKERbut in the beginning, the iPhone people,

06:22SPEAKERa lot of people looked at it as like,

06:23SPEAKERoh, that thing's really stupid expensive,

06:24SPEAKERand it doesn't really do that much.

06:26SPEAKERAnd then like three years into that,

06:28SPEAKERand all of a sudden you look down,

06:30SPEAKERand everybody in San Francisco had an iPhone 4,

06:32SPEAKERor a Samsung Galaxy phone.

06:37SPEAKERAnd that was a real, like the idea

06:42SPEAKERthat before everyone was expected to have a phone,

06:44SPEAKERhaving a phone was kind of a superpower,

06:46SPEAKER'cause you're able to get information

06:48SPEAKERthat was important wherever you were,

06:51SPEAKERwhich was novel, right?

06:53SPEAKER- And now it has become requisite.

06:55SPEAKER- Yeah, now it's just part of the cost of doing business

06:58SPEAKERin the modern world.

07:00SPEAKERBut yeah, I had never been to Disneyland before,

07:04SPEAKERand I'd never been to,

07:06SPEAKERI hadn't been since the phones became a thing.

07:08SPEAKERSo the last time I went to Disney World,

07:09SPEAKERthey had just introduced Fast Passes,

07:11SPEAKERwhich was a thing where you walked up to a little kiosk

07:13SPEAKERoutside the ride, like the busy rides with the long lines,

07:16SPEAKERand you could get a piece of paper that said,

07:18SPEAKERcome back at this time, and you will be able

07:22SPEAKERto bypass the line.

07:24SPEAKERSo it's like you're virtually waiting in line,

07:27SPEAKERwhich was neat, right?

07:29SPEAKER'Cause then you could go ride with a shorter line

07:31SPEAKERwhile you were waiting,

07:31SPEAKERbut you have to be back within like a 15-minute window.

07:33SPEAKER- Did that just in practice,

07:35SPEAKERjust put you in a shorter, elite line though,

07:37SPEAKERor was it literally just walk right up at your,

07:39SPEAKERI mean, did they assign you a time?

07:41SPEAKER- So they assigned you a specific time,

07:43SPEAKERand usually, and there were a limited number of those slots,

07:46SPEAKERand if you missed your time and you were out of luck,

07:48SPEAKERyou had to just go wait in the normal line.

07:49SPEAKER- Sure, but when it worked as intended,

07:52SPEAKERyou literally just walked right up and got in?

07:53SPEAKER- You would walk right up and usually bypass

07:55SPEAKERsome significant majority of the people in the queue

07:58SPEAKERand go straight to the part where you're moving to get,

08:00SPEAKERlike the last transition into the getting on the ride part.

08:06SPEAKERI'm sure people were upset about that at the time,

08:07SPEAKERbut it actually ended up being nice,

08:09SPEAKER'cause anybody could do it.

08:10SPEAKERYou didn't have to pay anything, I don't think.

08:11SPEAKERYou just walked up to the little thing

08:13SPEAKERand hit the stamp on the piece of paper, spat out,

08:16SPEAKERand then you were good to go.

08:17SPEAKER- Wait, hang on, you didn't pay for the privilege?

08:19SPEAKER- I don't believe that you had to pay for that.

08:21SPEAKERI don't remember, it was a long time ago.

08:22SPEAKERLike I said, it was 20 years ago almost.

08:24SPEAKER- It seems like the kind of thing

08:25SPEAKERthey would happily charge you like,

08:27SPEAKERexcuse me, like $100 a day for or something.

08:29SPEAKER- Well, I mean, you would think that,

08:31SPEAKERbut also it's the kind of thing that evened out the lines

08:36SPEAKERand shortened the wait times for everybody,

08:37SPEAKER'cause it let them control clumping at the different rides,

08:42SPEAKERwhich is, I think, judging by the way they treat the parks

08:45SPEAKERnow, it seems like that's probably a concern.

08:48SPEAKERBut anyway, now you go and you spend the whole damn time

08:54SPEAKERlooking at your phone, which we're gonna talk about.

09:01SPEAKERYou typically, when I go on vacation,

09:03SPEAKERwhen we went to Tahoe last year, when we went to wherever,

09:06SPEAKERmy intent is to not spend a lot of time on my phone,

09:09SPEAKERespecially if I'm spending time with my daughter.

09:11SPEAKERSo a little bit of a bummer that so much

09:14SPEAKERof the modern Disney experience

09:16SPEAKERand theme park experience, frankly,

09:17SPEAKERis like, hey, you have to look at your phone

09:19SPEAKERto figure out what to do and how to get the thing

09:22SPEAKERand how to order food and all this other stuff.

09:23SPEAKERSo anyway.

09:25SPEAKER- Now is this, maybe we will get into this,

09:28SPEAKERis it a have to look at your phone

09:30SPEAKERor is it a can look at your phone

09:31SPEAKERfor more convenience if you like?

09:33SPEAKEROr is it like, hey, this is the only way we do things now?

09:36SPEAKER- I think, okay, so there is some stuff that is the latter.

09:40SPEAKERA lot of it is if you want to be able to do a lot of stuff

09:44SPEAKERin a day or two.

09:45SPEAKERIf you're going to the park for five days,

09:47SPEAKERyou can just leisurely walk around

09:49SPEAKERand if you don't mind waiting in long lines,

09:50SPEAKERyou can wait in long lines.

09:52SPEAKERI don't like waiting in long lines.

09:54SPEAKERI don't do well at it.

09:56SPEAKER- No, look, you're paying a lot of money to be there.

09:58SPEAKERYou have limited time.

09:59SPEAKERLike you gotta weigh the cost benefit.

10:04SPEAKERBut also, is there a human being that has gone

10:07SPEAKERfor five straight days and lived to tell?

10:10SPEAKER- I feel like when I was a kid,

10:12SPEAKERyou'd go to Disney World for five days.

10:14SPEAKER- Dang, that is a man.

10:16SPEAKER- But that's like Disney and Epcot and MGM Studios

10:19SPEAKERall were one big thing down there.

10:21SPEAKERAnd now they have Animal Kingdom and all this other stuff.

10:24SPEAKERSo I don't know.

10:25SPEAKERLike Disneyland feels like a one or two day park to me

10:30SPEAKER'cause it's very small.

10:31SPEAKERThis was the big takeaway from,

10:33SPEAKERas a first time Disneyland attendee is that, wow,

10:37SPEAKERit's small compared to Magic Kingdom.

10:40SPEAKER- Was that the last month's patron episode

10:41SPEAKERthat in real time I pulled up the map of Disneyland

10:44SPEAKERon Google Maps and I was like, oh my God,

10:45SPEAKERit's just like a giant city block.

10:47SPEAKERAnd that's kind of it.

10:49SPEAKER- Yeah, so apparently when Walt bought that,

10:51SPEAKERit was all farmland in the '50s.

10:53SPEAKERAnd it was basically,

10:55SPEAKERhe spent every penny he had buying as much as he could

10:58SPEAKERto the point that like he got friends

11:00SPEAKERto build the Disneyland hotel next to it

11:02SPEAKERbecause he couldn't afford to build the hotel

11:04SPEAKERand buy the land for the hotel

11:06SPEAKERand didn't buy the hotel back until the '80s.

11:08SPEAKER- Is there some weird history of Disneyland?

11:10SPEAKERI'm sure there's like there's reams has been written

11:13SPEAKERabout it.

11:14SPEAKERWas it, have I read that it was like his like

11:16SPEAKERultimate lifelong dream to build theme park?

11:19SPEAKER- Yep, yep.

11:21SPEAKERSo that was it.

11:22SPEAKERThere's a really good documentary on Disney+ about it.

11:25SPEAKERIt's the Imagineering story I think is what it's called.

11:29SPEAKERAnd it's a delight.

11:31SPEAKERIt was informative and good.

11:33SPEAKERSo the interesting thing about Disneyland

11:35SPEAKERversus Disney World is that when Disneyland opened,

11:38SPEAKERthey kind of kept the stuff that Walt worked on the same.

11:43SPEAKERSo there's like a reverence for the work

11:45SPEAKERthat was done on the original Disneyland.

11:48SPEAKERAnd so I think all of those rides are still there.

11:51SPEAKERLike the Jungle Cruise and Autopia and teacups,

11:55SPEAKERthe Mad Hatter teacups and our Mad Tea Party teacups

12:00SPEAKERand the carousel and Mr. Toad and Peter Pan

12:03SPEAKERand like the Abe Lincoln telling stories and all those things

12:08SPEAKERare as they were.

12:10SPEAKER- Oh, hang on.

12:11SPEAKERIt opened, gosh, it opened 1955?

12:13SPEAKER- 1955.

12:14SPEAKER- Wait, and those attractions are still vintage fifties?

12:17SPEAKER- Pretty much, yeah.

12:19SPEAKER- Aside from maintenance?

12:20SPEAKER- I don't know.

12:21SPEAKERLike unlike say Pirates of the Caribbean,

12:24SPEAKERwhich now has Johnny Depp in it, right?

12:26SPEAKERWhich was a sixties era ride.

12:28SPEAKER- The ride at the park has him still?

12:30SPEAKER- The ride at the park has integrated Johnny Depp, yeah.

12:33SPEAKER- Surprised they have not pulled him back out.

12:35SPEAKER- I mean, I think that it takes a while to do that stuff.

12:39SPEAKER- Sure.

12:40SPEAKER- 'Cause it was a fairly,

12:41SPEAKERas I recall the ride was down for a fairly long time

12:42SPEAKERwhen Johnny Depp got added.

12:45SPEAKERThey didn't add Eddie Murphy to the Haunted Mansion, so.

12:49SPEAKER- Well, that's a shame.

12:50SPEAKER- Yeah, so yeah, so those original rides like,

12:55SPEAKERokay, so let me tell you how the day went

12:57SPEAKERwhen we went the first time.

12:58SPEAKER'Cause we stayed at the hotel,

12:59SPEAKERone of the hotels on property,

13:01SPEAKERwhich meant we were able to get in 30 minutes early

13:02SPEAKERbefore they opened the doors for everybody else.

13:05SPEAKERWhich it turns out is very convenient

13:09SPEAKER'cause we were able to get in in the first 30 minutes

13:11SPEAKERand ride a bunch of the,

13:13SPEAKERlike our initial plan was get in,

13:16SPEAKERhaul ass to the Star Wars ride and get on that first

13:19SPEAKERso that we don't have to wait in a two hour line

13:20SPEAKERfor that later or pay actual money

13:23SPEAKERto skip the line on that one, which I have feelings about.

13:27SPEAKER- Is that still the thing?

13:28SPEAKERI assume like that's the current super popular,

13:31SPEAKEReverybody wants to do it first thing.

13:33SPEAKER- So Rise of the Resistance had at any given point

13:36SPEAKERduring the day had like a two, it opens late,

13:39SPEAKERit had a two hour line to get on

13:42SPEAKERat any given point during the day.

13:43SPEAKERIt's like a 25 minute ride,

13:45SPEAKERso it's not like a terrible ratio of time in line

13:47SPEAKERto time on the ride.

13:50SPEAKERBut it was, it's an intense line.

13:54SPEAKERAnd so if you can get in there early,

13:56SPEAKERthen you can ride it first.

13:57SPEAKERBut then we were like, okay, wait,

13:58SPEAKERwe have a nine year old with us

14:00SPEAKERand she's never been to a theme park like this before.

14:04SPEAKERSo if we take her to this 21st century technological marvel

14:09SPEAKERand she rides that first, she's gonna go on Mr. Toad

14:11SPEAKERand be like, what the fuck is this?

14:14SPEAKERSo instead we were like, let's put her on,

14:17SPEAKERlet's get on Space Mountain first, ride the roller coaster.

14:19SPEAKERAnd then, 'cause there's usually a pretty good line for that

14:22SPEAKERand then, and it's worth mentioning,

14:24SPEAKERyou can download, anybody can download the app

14:26SPEAKERand see what the wait times are at any given time.

14:27SPEAKERSo Gina spent a couple of days prior

14:30SPEAKERand she would just check in when she had an idle moment

14:32SPEAKERand look to see what the wait times were like

14:33SPEAKERat any given point during the day.

14:34SPEAKERSo she had a sense of what happens at different,

14:37SPEAKER'cause there's an ebb and flow to the park, it turns out.

14:41SPEAKER- Is that the Disney Genie service?

14:43SPEAKER- So that is the Disneyland app.

14:45SPEAKER- Okay.

14:46SPEAKER- The Disney Genie service is different.

14:47SPEAKERWe'll talk about that in a minute.

14:48SPEAKER- Okay.

14:50SPEAKER- So yeah, so we ended up going to a bunch

14:51SPEAKERof the early rides, the stuff that was opening,

14:54SPEAKERthe opening day rides.

14:54SPEAKERSo we rode Peter Pan and Mr. Toad and the Tea Cups

14:59SPEAKERand Alice in Wonderland, which came later,

15:01SPEAKERand like Pinocchio and some other stuff

15:03SPEAKERthat's all kind of clumped up in this small area

15:05SPEAKERin the center of the park.

15:08SPEAKERAnd like those rides hold up incredibly well.

15:12SPEAKERI had never ridden Peter Pan before

15:15SPEAKERand it's like this overhead,

15:16SPEAKERlike the cart that you get in is like a pirate ship

15:19SPEAKERand it's on an overhead track

15:21SPEAKERand the overhead track goes up and down.

15:22SPEAKERAnd I think the tagline of it is you'll believe

15:24SPEAKERyou can fly because like it does little swoops and stuff

15:27SPEAKERand it feels awesome.

15:28SPEAKERIt's really fun.

15:29SPEAKER- Feel it in the gut.

15:31SPEAKER- Yeah, and they tell stories

15:32SPEAKERand like the whole thing is handled really, really well.

15:36SPEAKEREven, they're almost like retcons,

15:40SPEAKERbut like there's a Pinocchio ride

15:41SPEAKERthat was done in the 80s that's in that same area

15:45SPEAKERthat has this incredible projection of the blue ferry

15:50SPEAKERthat turns them into a real boy at the end.

15:52SPEAKERI don't have any idea how they did that.

15:54SPEAKERLike it just is projected into space

15:56SPEAKERand it looks like a hologram.

15:58SPEAKERAnd I'm just like, this is freaking cool.

16:00SPEAKERI need to go look up

16:01SPEAKERand I'm sure there's 50 YouTube videos

16:02SPEAKERthat explain how this works.

16:03SPEAKERI'm gonna do that after later on.

16:04SPEAKERI don't want to spoil it.

16:05SPEAKER- Oh God, I haven't even thought about that.

16:06SPEAKERYeah, so I understand there is an extreme subculture

16:09SPEAKERof theme park goers on YouTube and other.

16:12SPEAKER- There is a scene, yes.

16:13SPEAKER- Yeah, a scene is the word for it.

16:16SPEAKERIs Space Mountain original?

16:17SPEAKERNo, I just wanna know. - No, Space Mountain

16:18SPEAKERwas built in the 70s.

16:19SPEAKER- 70s, yes. - Late 70s.

16:20SPEAKER- How does that hold up?

16:21SPEAKERSo I've written Disney World, Space Mountain

16:24SPEAKERand I don't know if they are identical or were.

16:26SPEAKEROkay, in my memory, Space Mountain in my memory was like,

16:33SPEAKERokay, generally I think of Disneyland/world

16:35SPEAKERas like these rides are not super scary or super fast.

16:38SPEAKERThey're more for like vibes.

16:41SPEAKERThey're more for like scenery and animatronics

16:43SPEAKERand telling a story and kind of putting you in a place,

16:45SPEAKERbut they're not like hair raising, stomach turning

16:49SPEAKERexcept for Space Mountain.

16:50SPEAKERLike in my memory, Space Mountain is like,

16:52SPEAKERthat's the hardcore rollercoaster.

16:54SPEAKER- So there are three or four,

16:56SPEAKERdepending on whether you count Splash Mountain,

16:58SPEAKERthe log flume as like a hardcore ride.

17:02SPEAKERBut Space Mountain because it's in the dark

17:05SPEAKERand you can't see where you're going is intense.

17:07SPEAKERSo it's a rollercoaster, it's built in a big dark dome.

17:10SPEAKERThere's a bunch of stars like that are fiber optic stars

17:13SPEAKERall through the walls.

17:14SPEAKERAnd maybe they're just led stars now, I couldn't tell.

17:17SPEAKERBut basically the story is you're going on

17:20SPEAKERthe space journey and like you get the dark rollercoaster,

17:25SPEAKERthe shit out of you as you're doing it.

17:28SPEAKERSpace Mountain was, I think my daughter's favorite ride

17:30SPEAKERat Disneyland.

17:31SPEAKERWe rode it three times. - Really, no kidding.

17:32SPEAKEROkay, I haven't ridden it in, God, 30 plus years.

17:37SPEAKER- It's a real good first rollercoaster.

17:39SPEAKER- Yeah, all I remember of it is dark and lights.

17:42SPEAKER- So it doesn't go upside down.

17:43SPEAKERIt doesn't do anything super scary.

17:46SPEAKERIt just is like really exciting.

17:47SPEAKERAnd you're constantly being kind of thrashed around

17:49SPEAKERand you feel like you're going insanely fast

17:51SPEAKER'cause you're in the dark.

17:52SPEAKERNow, when I was at Disney World last time,

17:55SPEAKERthe lights came on when we were going up the ramp

17:58SPEAKERat Space Mountain.

17:59SPEAKERI will tell you, it is the most scary ride I've ever been on

18:01SPEAKERbecause the clearances are so high that I like,

18:03SPEAKERI don't put my hands up on Space Mountain anymore.

18:06SPEAKERI'm sure it's fine too, I'm good.

18:08SPEAKERAnyway.

18:09SPEAKER- Was that accidental or was that like that was unscheduled

18:12SPEAKERor not intentional?

18:12SPEAKER- I think they had a maintenance problem

18:14SPEAKERor somebody dropped something, they had to go get it

18:15SPEAKERor what, I don't know.

18:16SPEAKERBut like they were like, the lights are coming on

18:18SPEAKERin five, four, three, two, one, and then the lights came on.

18:21SPEAKER- What was on the inside of the walls?

18:23SPEAKERCould you see, was it like kind of dampening material?

18:25SPEAKER- It's all like structure.

18:26SPEAKERIt's all like, basically, all you see is like,

18:30SPEAKERit's like being on the inside of the Statue of Liberty

18:32SPEAKERor something, right?

18:33SPEAKERYou see all the superstructure stuff.

18:34SPEAKER- Right, of course.

18:35SPEAKER- It's what I remember.

18:36SPEAKER- I didn't know if they have like some like black felt

18:38SPEAKERon the walls or something to increase the, no.

18:41SPEAKER- It's just real dark in there, man.

18:42SPEAKER- Okay.

18:43SPEAKER- Yeah.

18:45SPEAKERAnd the ride is kind of far from the walls.

18:46SPEAKERSo I think that's how they,

18:49SPEAKERI assume that there was some sort of sound dampening

18:50SPEAKERon the inside of the wall.

18:52SPEAKERSo it doesn't make a ton of noise, but.

18:54SPEAKER- Actually, just the very idea of an indoor roller coaster

18:58SPEAKERis kind of wild when you think about it,

18:59SPEAKER'cause there are not a lot of those that I'm aware of.

19:03SPEAKER- Yeah, I think that was probably pretty novel at the time.

19:07SPEAKERThe ones that are indoors are usually pretty small, I think.

19:10SPEAKERThey're like kid rides, but yeah.

19:14SPEAKERThe other thing about it is,

19:17SPEAKERlike one of the technological things that changed over time

19:19SPEAKERis they stopped trying to put speakers in the world

19:21SPEAKERand they just put them on your car

19:22SPEAKERand timed the sound playback

19:25SPEAKERto like match where you are in the ride, yeah.

19:29SPEAKERAnd then the later rides, they even do like,

19:32SPEAKERit seems like they're doing like HRTF positional shit

19:34SPEAKERon like the, because there's multiple speakers

19:37SPEAKERthroughout the car.

19:38SPEAKERMaybe they're probably not doing HRTFs,

19:40SPEAKERbut they're positioning sound in the world

19:42SPEAKERusing multiple speakers inside the cars, which is a trip.

19:45SPEAKERAs opposed to like, it's a small world

19:47SPEAKERwhere they just blast that fucking song at maximum volume.

19:51SPEAKERI'm gonna go and tell you.

19:53SPEAKERWe broke down on it's a small world.

19:55SPEAKERIt was a dark time.

19:56SPEAKER- What?

19:57SPEAKER- We were like stuck for like five minutes.

19:58SPEAKERIt wasn't the end of the world, but.

19:59SPEAKER- Wait, did the music continue while you were stuck?

20:02SPEAKER- Never stops, Brad.

20:02SPEAKER- Oh no, God.

20:03SPEAKER- Never stops.

20:06SPEAKERI did tell my daughter that if any children who get lost

20:09SPEAKERand become the property of the Disney corporation

20:11SPEAKERhave to sit underneath, it's a small world

20:13SPEAKERand crank the kids.

20:15SPEAKER- They become part of the ride.

20:17SPEAKER- Yeah.

20:18SPEAKERSo yeah, it was interesting seeing like the stratification

20:21SPEAKERof the park and seeing like the opening rides

20:23SPEAKERand the like the fifties rides, like Alice in Wonderland,

20:25SPEAKERlike the things that opened shortly after the park,

20:27SPEAKERlike Alice in Wonderland, and then the sixties stuff

20:30SPEAKERlike Pirates and Haunted Mansion,

20:32SPEAKERwhere they got really good animatronics

20:34SPEAKERand they got good at like, like Haunted Mansion

20:37SPEAKERhas these hologram projections that are a trip.

20:41SPEAKERLike they remain amazing where they have like ghosts

20:43SPEAKERflying around a big room, eating food and stuff like that.

20:47SPEAKERIt was dressed for Halloween while we were there,

20:49SPEAKERwhich means it had the Nightmare Before Christmas

20:53SPEAKERstuff in there.

20:54SPEAKERSo we're like, we saw the Oogie Boogie

20:55SPEAKERand Jack Skellington and all that stuff.

20:59SPEAKER- That seems like a movie I should see at some point.

21:01SPEAKER- It is, that is, if you like Tim Burton's eighties bullshit,

21:05SPEAKEReighties and nineties bullshit, it is very good.

21:07SPEAKER- I do.

21:08SPEAKER- Yeah.

21:09SPEAKER- Man, I, we shouldn't get into it,

21:10SPEAKERbut since we're talking about Disney,

21:12SPEAKERwe babysat small children last weekend.

21:15SPEAKERAnd so there were a fair number of Disney movies

21:17SPEAKERplayed over the weekend,

21:18SPEAKERwhich got me down a rabbit hole of reading about like the,

21:21SPEAKERpretty much the whole history of Walt Disney animation,

21:25SPEAKERbut primarily, primarily like the kind of dip in the eighties

21:27SPEAKERand then the sort of nineties Renaissance.

21:31SPEAKER- Early nineties rebound, yeah.

21:32SPEAKER- Musical kind of starting with sort of what,

21:35SPEAKERLittle Mermaids Tarzan, I think is considered the,

21:39SPEAKERthe high point for me there is like Little Mermaid

21:42SPEAKERto Aladdin, probably Lion King, Aladdin, Little Mermaid,

21:45SPEAKERBeauty and the Beast.

21:46SPEAKER- Yeah, yes.

21:47SPEAKER- Tarzan's okay.

21:48SPEAKER- Yes, I can't remember why I brought that up.

21:51SPEAKERThere was a reason something you were talking about

21:52SPEAKERreminded me of that, but.

21:53SPEAKER- Well, I mean, there was a, they got good at anime,

21:56SPEAKERlike they got really good at animation, at 2D animation.

21:59SPEAKERAnd like Nightmare Before Christmas

22:03SPEAKERis incredible stop motion animation.

22:05SPEAKER- That's what it was, was finding out number one,

22:08SPEAKERnot only how many kind of big current and recent big name,

22:13SPEAKERdirectors, creators, et cetera,

22:15SPEAKERhave come through that studio,

22:16SPEAKERbut also how many of them were fired from it.

22:18SPEAKERIt was like Tim Burton, Brad Bird,

22:22SPEAKERtwo or three others that I'm trying to think of

22:24SPEAKERthat are like very well-known people in animation these days

22:26SPEAKERlike all went to Disney animation and all got fired

22:30SPEAKERfor various infractions and then turned around

22:33SPEAKERand became huge.

22:34SPEAKER- Yeah, well, and at that same time, Pixar was spinning up

22:37SPEAKERand then Toy Story came out at the end of the decade

22:39SPEAKERand you're like, oh, right, wow, this is a different thing.

22:42SPEAKER- Also, this is ancient history

22:43SPEAKERand there's maybe the documentary out there or something,

22:45SPEAKERbut they were getting into a lot of digital ink

22:47SPEAKERand paint stuff with those early nineties,

22:49SPEAKERlike moving into Beauty and the Beast and stuff like that.

22:52SPEAKER- Yeah.

22:53SPEAKER- Like I didn't realize they weren't just straight up

22:54SPEAKERlike painting cells at that point.

22:56SPEAKER- Yeah, my understanding is that the tools have not changed

23:00SPEAKERa whole lot in that space in the last 20 years.

23:04SPEAKER- So yeah, the sixties rides were neat.

23:08SPEAKERThe seventies and eighties stuff is all the action stuff

23:11SPEAKERlike Big Thunder Mountain and Splash Mountain

23:13SPEAKERand Space Mountain and all that.

23:14SPEAKERAnd then we got to Star Wars.

23:16SPEAKER- Actually, real quick before we,

23:18SPEAKERI've seen before we get into the Star Wars stuff proper,

23:20SPEAKERI've seen the name Hyperspace Mountain floating around,

23:22SPEAKERis that a thing?

23:24SPEAKER- I don't know that one, that wasn't at Disneyland.

23:27SPEAKER- Okay.

23:28SPEAKER- Hyperspace Mountain might be a thing that they do

23:30SPEAKERto fancy up Space Mountain during a specific season,

23:33SPEAKERthey do a lot of that.

23:35SPEAKER- Oh, yes, it is in fact seasonal.

23:40SPEAKER2015, November, 2015,

23:42SPEAKERthey, it sounds like they dressed up Space Mountain.

23:46SPEAKER- Might've been a anniversary or something, but yeah.

23:48SPEAKERThe, I was a little bummed that Haunted Mansion

23:51SPEAKERwas like, you know, Jack Skellington,

23:55SPEAKERbecause I would have liked to take the kiddo

23:57SPEAKERand have her see the real one.

23:59SPEAKER'Cause it's creepy, but not scary.

24:01SPEAKER- Yeah, so Space Mountain and Haunted Mansion

24:04SPEAKERare basically the two things that I remember the most

24:06SPEAKERfrom going to Disney World as a kid.

24:08SPEAKERWell, it was actually 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea also,

24:10SPEAKERit was pretty memorable.

24:11SPEAKER- Oh, you mean Finding Nemo?

24:14SPEAKER- No, don't tip that. - Nemo's Undersea Adventure,

24:16SPEAKERBrad.

24:17SPEAKER- Damn it, no, are you serious?

24:18SPEAKER- They do a really good thing in that where they like,

24:21SPEAKERI like that ride a lot, it's a goofy ride.

24:23SPEAKERMy daughter was completely unimpressed,

24:25SPEAKERbut they hide all the transitions from like,

24:27SPEAKERas you're going super deep,

24:29SPEAKERby just blowing a shitload of bubbles along the windows

24:31SPEAKERso you can't really see anything for a minute.

24:33SPEAKER- Sure.

24:34SPEAKER- It's like, it's some real sixties era technology.

24:38SPEAKER- Wait, do they have that one at Disneyland too?

24:39SPEAKER- They have it at Disneyland too, yeah.

24:40SPEAKER- Oh, did you know you did that one?

24:42SPEAKERLook, I have nothing against Finding Nemo,

24:44SPEAKERbut I just, I really loved that Jules Verne era

24:48SPEAKERkind of vibe to everything.

24:49SPEAKER- As somebody who saw that Jules Verne,

24:52SPEAKERwho rode that Jules Verne ride in like 2005,

24:57SPEAKERthe things that I was amazed by when I was nine

25:01SPEAKERdid not hold up, like the giant squid fight,

25:04SPEAKERpretty underwhelming, I'm gonna say.

25:05SPEAKER- That's fair, okay, well,

25:07SPEAKERI was mightily impressed at the time,

25:09SPEAKERbut so Haunted Mansion does hold up because that one to me,

25:11SPEAKERlike I vaguely remember the holograms

25:14SPEAKERand I extra remember the creepy,

25:16SPEAKERvery subtly animating paintings hanging everywhere.

25:20SPEAKER- Yeah, the paintings and the hologram stuff

25:23SPEAKERis still incredible, the animatronics are neat.

25:27SPEAKERThe one in Disneyland works the other way,

25:30SPEAKERso I think Disney World, you go up when you get

25:34SPEAKERin the elevator, the one in Disneyland, you go down.

25:39SPEAKERIt was weird because, well, so the other thing that's,

25:44SPEAKERso yeah, it super holds up, it's one of my,

25:47SPEAKERit's my absolute favorite, I think, of all the things

25:49SPEAKERthat are like our Disney exclusive rides or whatever.

25:52SPEAKERThe thing that I'll say about it is it's interesting

25:57SPEAKER'cause it also highlights the different eras

25:59SPEAKERof their line management technology.

26:02SPEAKERSo in the early park days, they clearly just have queues

26:07SPEAKERwhere you go in and you stand in a line

26:10SPEAKERand then they stop the thing for a minute, you jump on

26:13SPEAKERand then they start the thing and you go back.

26:15SPEAKERAnd they work like ski lifts where they can decouple

26:19SPEAKERthe ride from the pull track or whatever for just a second

26:23SPEAKERso people can get on, but that causes it to clump up

26:26SPEAKERand it means the rate at which they can get people on,

26:29SPEAKERlike if you've played a lot of Rollercoaster Tycoon,

26:30SPEAKERyou know the rate at which you get people on and off

26:33SPEAKERthe ride is the most important thing, it's all that matters.

26:36SPEAKERSo then Haunted Mansion is the first thing that I rode

26:39SPEAKERthat they have the people mover where you step

26:41SPEAKERon a conveyor belt when you get off the queue

26:43SPEAKERand the conveyor belt moves at the same speed as the ride

26:45SPEAKERso the ride never slows down.

26:48SPEAKERSo you just get on the people mover, you walk up

26:49SPEAKERand you step right on, it's like your relative motion

26:51SPEAKERis exactly the same, but no difference in speed.

26:55SPEAKERThey do that on a bunch of stuff now,

26:57SPEAKERincluding like the log flumes at California Adventure

27:00SPEAKERor tube rides at California Adventure

27:02SPEAKERand stuff like that even,

27:04SPEAKERwhich puts you in a real weird brain space

27:06SPEAKERwhere it feels like the concrete base of the ride

27:08SPEAKERis moving, but the thing you're standing on isn't.

27:12SPEAKER- You're stationary, man, that's a trip.

27:14SPEAKER- Yeah.

27:15SPEAKER- I assume the people mover's not that fast.

27:17SPEAKER- The people mover, it goes at a pretty good clip.

27:19SPEAKERLike it's not slow on the Haunted Mansion,

27:24SPEAKERat least at Disneyland.

27:26SPEAKERI mean, you accelerate to like fast people movers.

27:30SPEAKER- Airport, maybe style?

27:32SPEAKER- Maybe it's as fast or faster

27:33SPEAKERthan an airport one would be, yeah.

27:36SPEAKERIt wasn't like, there wasn't a risk of you falling down,

27:39SPEAKERbut like if you were a little unsteady, maybe, I guess.

27:43SPEAKERSo yeah, one of the things that I like,

27:45SPEAKERbut the Haunted Mansion also sends people down in batches.

27:47SPEAKERSo they're like, you go into this room

27:49SPEAKERand it's like the waiting room,

27:50SPEAKERthere's five doors out of that.

27:51SPEAKERSo that means that they can keep

27:54SPEAKERthe elevators cycling constantly.

27:56SPEAKERSo there's always a group going down,

27:58SPEAKERalways a group loading in, which is interesting.

28:00SPEAKERAnd then you have stuff like the rebadged Tower of Terror,

28:04SPEAKERwhich is the Guardians of the Galaxy ride

28:05SPEAKERat California Adventure,

28:07SPEAKERwhere they load in an entire group of people,

28:11SPEAKER10 cars worth of people, two stories high,

28:14SPEAKERbut then that ride, there's no movement on the line

28:16SPEAKERfor the two minutes that the ride's going, right?

28:18SPEAKERSo you're like, you're going up and down,

28:20SPEAKERup and down, up and down, and then they unload everybody,

28:22SPEAKERand then they start loading the new people in immediately.

28:25SPEAKERBut there's no continual flow on those.

28:27SPEAKER- What is California Adventure, is it extension?

28:30SPEAKER- Yeah, so California Adventure

28:31SPEAKERis an entirely separate theme park

28:33SPEAKERthat's like half the size of Disneyland

28:34SPEAKERthat's on the south end of the,

28:37SPEAKERit's on the south end of that same block.

28:39SPEAKERAnd it has a lot of Pixar stuff.

28:42SPEAKERIt has a lot of, like, I mean,

28:45SPEAKERactually it's mostly Pixar stuff.

28:48SPEAKERThere's a giant, there's a huge lagoon at one end

28:51SPEAKERwhere they do this world of color thing

28:52SPEAKERthat I definitely want to talk about,

28:54SPEAKER'cause it's kind of magic, it's kind of incredible, actually.

28:57SPEAKERIt's like a light and laser show, and water show,

29:00SPEAKERwhere they have all these water cannons under this lagoon

29:04SPEAKERthat blast water up, and then they project scenes

29:06SPEAKERfrom movies onto the water in the air.

29:09SPEAKER- That's good.

29:11SPEAKER- They do a lot of lasers through the things

29:13SPEAKERto highlight the different parts

29:15SPEAKERof the water at the specific times.

29:17SPEAKERIt is a phenomenally cool,

29:21SPEAKERlike 25 or 30 minute thing that they do instead of fireworks

29:25SPEAKER'cause they're in downtown Anaheim

29:26SPEAKERand they don't want to annoy people, I assume.

29:28SPEAKER- I guess that's probably,

29:29SPEAKERactually, I've been meaning to ask.

29:31SPEAKERI mean, okay, if I remember Disney World

29:34SPEAKERis kind of in a swamp, right?

29:36SPEAKER- Yeah.

29:37SPEAKER- Sort of?

29:38SPEAKER- No, that's right.

29:39SPEAKER- Yeah, and again, we've said Disneyland

29:41SPEAKERis right there in the middle of Anaheim.

29:42SPEAKERLike, when you're in the middle of the park,

29:44SPEAKERare you aware that you're in the middle of Anaheim?

29:46SPEAKERLike, can you kind of see the city proper outside,

29:49SPEAKERor like are the sight lines like such

29:51SPEAKERthat you're kind of ensconced in a little Disney bubble?

29:55SPEAKER- The sight lines are such that you have no idea.

29:57SPEAKERYou're like, you don't see building,

29:59SPEAKERyou don't see high rises or anything.

30:01SPEAKERLike at some point, the park's small enough

30:04SPEAKERthat at some points, like you see the Matterhorn,

30:05SPEAKERyou see bits of the Star Wars land or stuff like that.

30:12SPEAKERBut for the most part, no, you don't see the city.

30:14SPEAKERAnd there's bits of California Adventure, I guess,

30:16SPEAKERwhere you can see like a convention center outside the park

30:19SPEAKERand stuff like that.

30:20SPEAKER- You know, I assume everything's so chaotic,

30:21SPEAKERyou can't pick up traffic noise outside and stuff.

30:24SPEAKER- No, and there are some places,

30:26SPEAKERlike there's this wall at the end of California Adventure

30:28SPEAKERwhere they're like highlighting,

30:30SPEAKER'cause California Adventure is all things California.

30:32SPEAKERIt was, I think people made fun of it when it opened

30:34SPEAKER'cause it seemed a little goofy.

30:36SPEAKERBut like they have a huge perspective wall,

30:38SPEAKERlike you would put at the end of a movie shot,

30:40SPEAKERlike the end of a street at a movie shot

30:42SPEAKERto make it look like whatever area you want it to look like,

30:45SPEAKERwhich it turns out is a really fun place

30:46SPEAKERto go up and take stupid photos

30:47SPEAKER'cause you can like get right up on somebody

30:49SPEAKERand make them look really tiny,

30:50SPEAKERor you get like a wide angle shot from below

30:52SPEAKERand make them look like they're like 50 feet tall.

30:55SPEAKERBut that perspective wall is like 100 feet tall,

30:59SPEAKERit looks like it's really, really tall.

31:01SPEAKERAnd I assume that they're probably blocking

31:02SPEAKERlike some building that's just out,

31:04SPEAKERthat's been built just outside the park or something there.

31:08SPEAKERBut yeah, for the most part,

31:09SPEAKERyou don't, you feel as isolated from the real world

31:12SPEAKERin Disneyland as you would in Disney World.

31:15SPEAKERIt's also much, at least this time of year,

31:17SPEAKERthe weather was much more temperate

31:18SPEAKER'cause in Florida we would have been roasting.

31:21SPEAKERSo, okay, I wanna talk about the Star Wars stuff

31:24SPEAKER'cause it's a trip.

31:26SPEAKERThe Star Wars land is like a 21st century.

31:30SPEAKERIt takes the things that Universal did with Harry Potter

31:33SPEAKERwhere the queues for the rides have like,

31:37SPEAKERyou know, are part of the attraction, right?

31:39SPEAKERSo like when you're in the queue for a Harry Potter ride,

31:41SPEAKERyou see Dumbledore and you see like the paintings

31:44SPEAKERon the walls all move and you will walk through

31:47SPEAKERthe classrooms from the books or the movies.

31:50SPEAKER- Oh wow, that's pretty elaborate.

31:52SPEAKER- Yeah, it's like, it is intense to the point,

31:56SPEAKERso we went to Universal after this

31:57SPEAKERand it is intense to the point that we went back

32:00SPEAKERto wait in line to see some of the stuff that we missed

32:02SPEAKERwhen we used the Fast Pass on the first day.

32:07SPEAKERSo, the Star Wars stuff is the same.

32:12SPEAKERLike the whole area of the park is interactive.

32:15SPEAKERLike there's people walking around,

32:16SPEAKERthe Disneyland employees that are called cast members

32:19SPEAKERare walking around in like Star Wars costumes

32:22SPEAKERand there's like a first order area

32:23SPEAKERand there's a resistance area.

32:26SPEAKERAnd if you're in the first order area,

32:27SPEAKERyou're gonna see some like Imperial officer looking people

32:31SPEAKERthat yell at you.

32:33SPEAKERAnd if you're in the resistance area,

32:34SPEAKERyou see like resistance dirt bag looking people,

32:37SPEAKERyou know, that are clearly scrappy underdogs.

32:40SPEAKERBut there's a game that runs underneath the whole area

32:46SPEAKERthat you play on your phone.

32:49SPEAKERSo like, it's like a Pokemon Go situation

32:52SPEAKERwhere you walk around the world and like, it'll pop up,

32:55SPEAKERthe phone will pop up and say,

32:56SPEAKER"Hey, there's a quest that needs to be done.

32:58SPEAKERCan you do it?

32:59SPEAKERWe have a mission for you.

32:59SPEAKERCan you take it on?"

33:01SPEAKERAnd you look at it and it gives you faction

33:03SPEAKERin either like the smuggler group,

33:06SPEAKERthe resistance group or the first order group.

33:08SPEAKERAnd it'll be like complete a little puzzle on your phone

33:10SPEAKERand then some shit in the park around you will happen.

33:13SPEAKERSo like sometimes it's like you click a button

33:15SPEAKERand open a door.

33:17SPEAKERSometimes it's like a panel lights up.

33:19SPEAKERSometimes it's like Kylo Ren's TIE fighter thing

33:22SPEAKERwill like make smoke and shit will happen on it.

33:25SPEAKER- Okay, that's kind of cool.

33:27SPEAKERI started to say like using the phone to lubricate

33:31SPEAKERthe aspects of the park that have a lot of friction,

33:34SPEAKERwaiting and trying to get food and stuff is one thing,

33:37SPEAKERbut like actively pushing you to do a thing on your phone

33:40SPEAKERwhen you're surrounded by all this magic and wonder

33:42SPEAKERmaybe is a little questionable.

33:43SPEAKERBut then on the other hand,

33:44SPEAKERwhen you say like do a thing on your phone

33:46SPEAKERand make something like weird happen in the real world

33:49SPEAKERactually sounds pretty awesome.

33:51SPEAKER- Well, and also this didn't happen to us

33:53SPEAKER'cause I didn't spend the time

33:54SPEAKER'cause I was there to spend time with my kid,

33:55SPEAKERnot grind faction with Kylo Ren.

33:59SPEAKERBut like if you go to the park on the reg

34:02SPEAKERand you grind faction with Kylo Ren,

34:04SPEAKEReventually theoretically you're gonna get pulled

34:06SPEAKERinto something by the cast members.

34:07SPEAKER- I can't believe you just spoke that sentence aloud.

34:10SPEAKER- Look, which part?

34:12SPEAKER- Go to the park regularly and grind faction with Kylo Ren.

34:15SPEAKER- And sometimes you got to grind that faction.

34:18SPEAKERSo yeah, like it's weird though, right?

34:21SPEAKER'Cause it feels like you're spending a lot of money

34:22SPEAKERto go to this park and like I could walk around my backyard

34:27SPEAKERand play Pokemon Go if I wanted.

34:29SPEAKER- Right, it's maybe a little questionable.

34:31SPEAKERAlthough like it kind of, I mean, you tell me,

34:32SPEAKERit almost reminds me of the thing you've said a lot about

34:35SPEAKERlike coding pure software is one thing,

34:37SPEAKERbut like coding to make Arduino lights blink

34:40SPEAKERis much more satisfying.

34:42SPEAKERLike doing a computer thing to make a real world thing

34:44SPEAKERhappen has got a certain satisfaction to it.

34:47SPEAKERSo like the idea of opening a door.

34:49SPEAKER- I will tell you when I made the door,

34:51SPEAKERwhen I made the lights blink and the door open

34:53SPEAKERand Kylo Ren's spaceship do something,

34:54SPEAKEReveryone in the party was excited.

34:56SPEAKER- That's cool.

34:57SPEAKER- Like everybody was stoked about it.

34:59SPEAKER- Yeah.

35:00SPEAKER- The weird part about that specific part of the park

35:03SPEAKERis there's not a lot of food.

35:05SPEAKERSo like, there's a place to get some wraps

35:08SPEAKERand there's a cantina where you can get drinks in blue milk.

35:11SPEAKERI don't think you can get drinks drinks.

35:12SPEAKER- It's gotta be blue milk.

35:13SPEAKER- There's blue milk.

35:15SPEAKERWe did not try the blue milk.

35:16SPEAKERI like the last thing I want when I'm walking around

35:18SPEAKERa theme park and it's 90 degrees is some,

35:20SPEAKERis a nice big glass of milk, but.

35:22SPEAKER- Wow, what is its flavor?

35:24SPEAKERI wonder if they add, it's probably all sugar in there.

35:27SPEAKER- I'm sure it's a lot of sugar.

35:30SPEAKERBut the rides were pretty incredible.

35:31SPEAKERLike the rides of the resistance ride is 25 minutes

35:35SPEAKERand you can use the phone and well, I guess we'll,

35:40SPEAKERlet's talk about the Genie Plus stuff in a minute

35:42SPEAKER'cause it's goofy.

35:44SPEAKERBut you like, there's a part where you walk through

35:47SPEAKERsome stuff and you like, when you get to the ride portion

35:50SPEAKERand like you get a mission from Ray and BB-8

35:57SPEAKERand like characters from the postquels,

36:02SPEAKERthen you get captured by the first order

36:07SPEAKERand they yell at you and are like,

36:09SPEAKERgo stand in the line prisoners

36:10SPEAKERand you go get in a prison cell, there's a prison break,

36:13SPEAKERthere's all sorts of stuff happens.

36:14SPEAKERLike you end up in a spaceship stuff, you get sent to space,

36:18SPEAKERyou ride in these, like you get in these people movers

36:21SPEAKEReventually that are essentially, they're a trip.

36:26SPEAKERSo you get in these people movers and they're like,

36:30SPEAKERyou're in like a ride on rails, right?

36:32SPEAKERExcept they're on omni wheels or something

36:34SPEAKERand they're just driving around free on the ground.

36:37SPEAKERLike there's literally, there's no tracks.

36:40SPEAKERSo you're in with like two or three other cars

36:43SPEAKERof these people movers, stormtroopers are shooting at you,

36:45SPEAKEReverybody's yelling,

36:46SPEAKERthere's all sorts of exciting shit happening,

36:47SPEAKERthere's lightsabers and then all of a sudden,

36:50SPEAKERyou're just doing a ballet with these other carts

36:54SPEAKERfull of people in this open area

36:56SPEAKERand like you see adults and more stormtroopers

36:59SPEAKERand it is, we literally got off the ride,

37:05SPEAKERwe only rode it once 'cause I didn't wanna pay

37:07SPEAKERmultiple times to skip the two hour line

37:08SPEAKERand I wasn't gonna wait in two hour line.

37:11SPEAKERBut it was very much a, hey,

37:16SPEAKERa bunch of shit's gonna happen to you,

37:18SPEAKERyou're gonna see some Star Wars stuff,

37:19SPEAKERsomebody's gonna cut through some stuff with a lightsaber,

37:22SPEAKERthere's gonna be a hole in the side of the spaceship

37:24SPEAKERand all the air is gonna get sucked out

37:25SPEAKERand it's gonna actually feel like that.

37:27SPEAKERLike it was a full assault on the senses

37:29SPEAKERfor about 25 minutes.

37:32SPEAKER- A full assault on the senses is a pretty good description

37:34SPEAKERof the theme park experience generally.

37:36SPEAKER- It really was.

37:38SPEAKER- Yeah, how was a lot of the stuff represented?

37:40SPEAKERLike was it animatronic

37:41SPEAKERor was there like video wall stuff going on or?

37:43SPEAKER- It was a little bit of everything,

37:44SPEAKERlike they had Star Wars looking holograms

37:47SPEAKERfor some of the characters, there were animatronics,

37:51SPEAKERthere were screens that were placed far enough away

37:54SPEAKERin such a perspective that you couldn't tell

37:56SPEAKERthat they were screens probably.

37:59SPEAKERThere's apparently multiple paths through that ride

38:01SPEAKERbased on whether or not, like if animatronics go down,

38:04SPEAKERthen they have different paths through the ride.

38:08SPEAKER- Wait, they have redundancy in their ride?

38:10SPEAKER- Yeah, well, 'cause like, look, if people come to the park

38:12SPEAKERto see Rise of the Resistance

38:14SPEAKERand the animatronic breaks this down for three hours,

38:16SPEAKERthen they have to have something else in place, right?

38:18SPEAKER- Fair, fair.

38:19SPEAKER- Apparently they also, if the lines are too long,

38:21SPEAKERthey skip some of the early portions of the ride

38:23SPEAKERthat are more stage setting and queuing

38:27SPEAKERand you just go straight to the ride part.

38:29SPEAKER- Just to move people through faster?

38:30SPEAKER- Just to move people through faster, I believe, yeah.

38:33SPEAKERBut it was, like it was a little intense,

38:36SPEAKERlike my daughter was a little nervous

38:37SPEAKERwhen the First Order people were yelling at you,

38:38SPEAKERshe's like, "I don't like this, this is scary."

38:40SPEAKER- How hard were the actors going for it?

38:43SPEAKER- They were fucking going at it hard, man.

38:45SPEAKERThey were like, like if I stepped off the red line

38:47SPEAKERto take a picture, they're like,

38:48SPEAKER"Get back on your red line, scum."

38:50SPEAKERAnd like, and yeah, it was, but then I think

38:54SPEAKERsomebody heard her say, "I'm a little freaked out, Dad,"

38:56SPEAKERand then they kind of cooled it with us.

38:57SPEAKER(laughing)

38:58SPEAKER'Cause of course, Disney always knows.

39:00SPEAKER- Hey, interactive.

39:01SPEAKER- Yeah, it was a little bit like,

39:04SPEAKERlike I generally don't like interactive theater stuff

39:06SPEAKERand it was a little bit on the edge for that for me.

39:09SPEAKERBut it was an interesting experience for sure.

39:13SPEAKER- Now, what is, I'm sure you didn't touch this at all,

39:15SPEAKERbut do you know anything about that kind of full weekend?

39:18SPEAKER- That's a Disney world.

39:19SPEAKER- Oh, is that a Disney world?

39:20SPEAKER- The Star Cruiser, yeah.

39:21SPEAKER- Okay, 'cause I mean, I don't know that you have an answer.

39:24SPEAKERI was gonna say though, like I don't,

39:26SPEAKERI'm a little surprised they built this at Disneyland

39:28SPEAKERto begin with 'cause there's so much more space at Disney.

39:31SPEAKEROr I've just always had the sense that Disney World

39:33SPEAKERwas the more trafficked and popular park.

39:36SPEAKER- I don't know, I don't have any idea

39:38SPEAKERwhat the traffic is like at the different ones.

39:40SPEAKERThis place was packed full.

39:44SPEAKERI think the Star Wars they're viewing as the future of the,

39:47SPEAKERlike these rides are clearly,

39:49SPEAKERthey've spent an incredible amount of time and money

39:51SPEAKERdeveloping them 'cause they're unlike anything

39:53SPEAKERI've seen anywhere else ever.

39:54SPEAKER- I wonder how they feel about having based

39:56SPEAKERthe entire thing or themed the entire thing

39:58SPEAKERwith the sequel films, considering they themselves

40:01SPEAKERhave de-emphasized those films now as hard as they can.

40:04SPEAKER- Well, so they're starting to put other stuff in now.

40:06SPEAKERLike originally, I think the pitch was

40:09SPEAKERthis is only gonna be the post goals, like the JJ trilogy.

40:13SPEAKERBut I think there's Mandalorian,

40:14SPEAKERI think there's stuff from the TV shows coming out now.

40:16SPEAKER- That was my guess is they'll kind of subtly

40:18SPEAKERstart dressing it with other stuff over time.

40:20SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, that only works if they go forward in time.

40:24SPEAKERI don't think you put High Republic stuff in there, right?

40:27SPEAKER- Probably not.

40:27SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway, maybe we'll see Ahsoka walking around

40:31SPEAKERwith head tentacles or something at some point.

40:34SPEAKERBut yeah, the Millennium Falcon ride

40:36SPEAKERwas the other big Star Wars ride.

40:37SPEAKERThere's only two Star Wars rides.

40:39SPEAKERThe other stuff that you do there is like

40:41SPEAKERa extended purchasing experience, like buying a lightsaber,

40:46SPEAKERor customizing your lightsaber, buying a droid,

40:48SPEAKERcustomizing your droid.

40:50SPEAKER- Oh, I didn't know you could do a droid.

40:51SPEAKERDid you do either of those?

40:51SPEAKER- I did not spend $200 on a lightsaber.

40:53SPEAKER- Man, that's like, I almost wish there was a reduced fee

40:57SPEAKERwhere you could just like go in and build it

40:59SPEAKERand play with it for 10 minutes and then give it back.

41:01SPEAKER'Cause like, I don't need a lightsaber in my house,

41:02SPEAKERbut I would like to mess around with that process.

41:05SPEAKER- That was precisely my reaction and my feeling.

41:08SPEAKERAnd I was like, no, I'm probably, I'm probably good.

41:12SPEAKERIf the kiddo, if we go back at some point

41:14SPEAKERand the kiddo is interested in Star Wars

41:16SPEAKERand she wants to do a lightsaber, we'll do a lightsaber,

41:17SPEAKERbut I'm okay.

41:20SPEAKERThe Millennium Falcon ride was much more

41:22SPEAKERof a traditional kind of theme park ride.

41:24SPEAKERYou get in, you get into like,

41:28SPEAKERbasically you get to go walk into the Millennium Falcon.

41:31SPEAKERYou get, there's a waiting area

41:33SPEAKERwhere you're assigned to color

41:34SPEAKERand you like get into the lobby,

41:37SPEAKERlike the area with the Jarek table

41:41SPEAKERand like Chewbacca's bed and all that stuff.

41:43SPEAKERAnd you can kind of hang out there and take pictures

41:45SPEAKERfor a little bit.

41:46SPEAKER- Wow, you know the name of the table.

41:47SPEAKERI'm impressed.

41:48SPEAKER- Well, I mean, we did a video tested

41:50SPEAKERwith the folks who recreated the hollow chests.

41:52SPEAKER- Oh, of course, yes.

41:54SPEAKER- For Force Awakens.

41:57SPEAKERBut yeah, and then you walk down a hallway

42:03SPEAKERand there's a bunch of different hallways

42:05SPEAKERand all of them lead to the Millennium Falcon cockpit.

42:07SPEAKERAnd you get into the kind of 40,

42:11SPEAKERyou literally get into a recreation

42:13SPEAKERof the Millennium Falcon cockpit,

42:14SPEAKERwhich I'm a fool 'cause I didn't take any pictures.

42:16SPEAKERAnd I was too busy looking around

42:17SPEAKERand poking buttons and stuff.

42:18SPEAKER- I mean, that's the thing to do, right?

42:19SPEAKERLike it's nice to have a memento,

42:21SPEAKERbut also like you kind of want to just live in the moment.

42:24SPEAKER- It was very cool to walk.

42:26SPEAKERI'm gonna go and tell you 12 year old me was exploding

42:31SPEAKER'cause I was walking around the Millennium Falcon cockpit.

42:33SPEAKER- Is it convincing like it's to scale

42:35SPEAKERand everything is kind of believable?

42:37SPEAKER- Yeah, like you sit down in chairs

42:39SPEAKERthat look like the chairs.

42:40SPEAKERThey're not like movie chairs.

42:43SPEAKERThey're like theme park ride chairs.

42:44SPEAKERYou have to buckle in, put the seatbelt on and all that.

42:48SPEAKERBut yeah, it was very believable.

42:51SPEAKER- Now, at any point before this,

42:53SPEAKERhave you seen an entire fully realized

42:56SPEAKERexternal Millennium Falcon or have you walked

42:59SPEAKERinto a building that this cockpit is contained inside?

43:01SPEAKER- Oh, so the Millennium Falcon's just sitting out

43:03SPEAKERin the middle of the parking,

43:04SPEAKERlike it's parked when you go in.

43:07SPEAKERSo it's a thing that you can take pictures with outside

43:12SPEAKERwhen you're walking around

43:13SPEAKERwithout going on the ride or anything.

43:15SPEAKER- Is it life-size?

43:16SPEAKERI mean, quote unquote life-size.

43:17SPEAKER- It's big, yeah.

43:18SPEAKERI'll send you some pictures.

43:19SPEAKER- Okay, does it have any interior at all or is it just a...

43:22SPEAKER- So the whole ride spins you around

43:24SPEAKERso that you feel like you're getting back

43:26SPEAKERon that Millennium Falcon.

43:27SPEAKERYou are absolutely not getting back on that Millennium Falcon.

43:29SPEAKER- Sure. - Yeah.

43:32SPEAKERSo you get in the cockpit, you sit down, they assign roles.

43:36SPEAKERSo Gina and my daughter were pilots.

43:39SPEAKERI was a gunner and we had two other people

43:40SPEAKERin the back that were engineers.

43:42SPEAKERAnd the pilots, one, it's like space team kind of.

43:46SPEAKER- Okay.

43:47SPEAKER- Like the pilots, one person goes left and right

43:48SPEAKERand the other person goes up and down.

43:51SPEAKER- Okay.

43:51SPEAKER- And the up and down person also gets

43:54SPEAKERto pull the hyperspace levers,

43:57SPEAKERwhich was, I'm gonna tell you, extreme jealousy

44:00SPEAKER'cause Gina was pulling the hyperspace levers.

44:02SPEAKER- That's the money shot, for sure.

44:04SPEAKER- But when you're flying, the 4D stuff is romping you around

44:08SPEAKERbased on the armature that the cockpit is on

44:12SPEAKERis moving based on their movements.

44:14SPEAKERAnd then the gunners have some buttons to press

44:16SPEAKERand then I don't know what the engineers did.

44:17SPEAKER- Did anyone at any point scream, "Play your class?"

44:22SPEAKER- No, nobody screamed, "Play your class."

44:25SPEAKERBut I'm gonna go and tell you, putting a nine-year-old

44:26SPEAKERand somebody who has a hard time with flight sim stuff

44:29SPEAKERwhere forward is down and back is up

44:33SPEAKERin charge of the flying the spaceship

44:35SPEAKERmeant that we smashed into a lot of stuff.

44:37SPEAKER- Mm-hmm, I'm surprised they don't let you self-assign,

44:40SPEAKERthough I'm surprised they assigned those roles out.

44:42SPEAKERIs that just for expediency,

44:43SPEAKERmaybe just to keep things moving

44:44SPEAKERso people aren't endlessly bringing their hands

44:47SPEAKERover what they get to play?

44:48SPEAKER- My guess is if we had five or six people,

44:50SPEAKERthey would have let us pick whatever we wanted,

44:51SPEAKERbut since we were a mixed group,

44:52SPEAKERthey just assigned so that there was less, you know,

44:55SPEAKERless drama with your friend for the next six minutes.

44:59SPEAKER- Yeah.

45:01SPEAKER- Yeah, so, and also, they definitely put the,

45:07SPEAKERthey definitely didn't put the kiddo

45:08SPEAKERin the having to pull the hyperspace thing,

45:10SPEAKER'cause I don't know what happens

45:11SPEAKERif you don't pull the hyperspace lever.

45:14SPEAKERSo, yeah, we smashed into a bunch of stuff.

45:16SPEAKERYou're assigned a score at the end?

45:18SPEAKER- Huh.

45:19SPEAKER- Like, it was weird, 'cause like, it's a really,

45:21SPEAKERit's a really incredible ride,

45:23SPEAKERbut it also feels like that technology,

45:25SPEAKERlike the, hey, have one person fly side to side,

45:28SPEAKERone person fly up and down,

45:29SPEAKERhave different people doing different things.

45:32SPEAKERIf put into the context of like

45:33SPEAKERa space team communications game

45:35SPEAKERversus a "Star Wars" spectacle game,

45:37SPEAKERwould be really, really fun.

45:39SPEAKERLike, imagine having a full-scale 5D space team,

45:43SPEAKERlike where the ride's thrashing around,

45:45SPEAKERyou're doing all sorts of cool stuff.

45:46SPEAKER- Oh, yeah.

45:47SPEAKER- Versus-

45:48SPEAKER- Having to run around a cockpit

45:49SPEAKERand like pull levers and hit buttons and-

45:51SPEAKER- Yeah.

45:52SPEAKER- Sounds awesome.

45:52SPEAKER- Yeah, the other thing about the ride

45:55SPEAKERis because you have to look at the controls

45:58SPEAKERand because you're looking at the buttons

45:59SPEAKERon the side and stuff like that,

46:02SPEAKERI didn't spend as much time looking

46:03SPEAKERat the actual stuff on the screen in front of the,

46:05SPEAKER'cause you know, you're flying around

46:06SPEAKERin front of a big, huge projection screen.

46:08SPEAKER- Right.

46:09SPEAKER- I didn't spend as much time looking at stuff on the screen

46:11SPEAKERas I was like looking to my left at a panel of five buttons

46:14SPEAKERto see which button I had to press.

46:16SPEAKER- Sure.

46:17SPEAKER- Which feels a little weird.

46:18SPEAKER- Yeah, is the projection screen

46:20SPEAKERis like set back from the cockpit?

46:22SPEAKERIt's not like part of the cockpit?

46:23SPEAKER- It's far enough back that you don't realize

46:25SPEAKERit's a projection screen

46:26SPEAKERif you're not really paying attention.

46:28SPEAKER- Sense of depth and kind of externality or whatever.

46:30SPEAKER- Yeah, and you can't see the edges of it at all, so.

46:33SPEAKER- You think, okay, I've never been to an escape room.

46:36SPEAKER- Yeah.

46:37SPEAKER- But the thing you're describing,

46:38SPEAKERthe kind of like fully realized, like tactile space team,

46:41SPEAKERlike is that just an escape room to begin with?

46:43SPEAKER'Cause I was gonna, the thing I was gonna ask is like,

46:45SPEAKERis I wonder if there's like some kind of market opportunity

46:49SPEAKERfor like something like an escape room,

46:52SPEAKERbut something that is much more explicitly like space team

46:55SPEAKERor like keep talking and nobody explodes.

46:58SPEAKERThat type of thing.

46:58SPEAKERLike that seems like somebody who put a lot of work

47:01SPEAKERinto really building out a lot of mechanical features

47:03SPEAKERyou could fiddle with, like would do pretty well

47:07SPEAKERwith something like that.

47:07SPEAKER- Most like entry-level escape rooms are really low budge.

47:11SPEAKERIt's like IKEA furniture that's been tarted up.

47:17SPEAKERThere's a couple of really, really high dollar,

47:19SPEAKERhigh impact ones.

47:21SPEAKERThere's one at the Palace of Fine Arts.

47:25SPEAKERI'm gonna, let me see what the company's called,

47:28SPEAKERI can't remember off the top of my head,

47:30SPEAKERbut they have three or four escape rooms,

47:32SPEAKERthree rooms there now, Houdini, Roosevelt and Edison

47:35SPEAKERat Palace Games.

47:37SPEAKERAnd they're exceptional, like really and truly incredible.

47:43SPEAKERAnd they do a lot of like Arduino driven,

47:49SPEAKERmicrocontroller driven, like wired in crazy,

47:52SPEAKERcrazy behind the scenes Disney style imagineer

47:56SPEAKERtype business there, but they don't do like moving rooms

47:59SPEAKERand stuff like that, that would be a bit much.

48:02SPEAKER- That sounds like that's veering pretty close

48:03SPEAKERto what I was thinking about anyway.

48:05SPEAKER- Yeah, so yeah, I think that there's a,

48:10SPEAKERI think that there's a, I would like,

48:14SPEAKERI would love to see them apply this technology

48:15SPEAKERto like a Buzz Lightyear game that is for people

48:20SPEAKERthat have to do space team shit for five minutes

48:22SPEAKERwhile they're in a cockpit, right?

48:25SPEAKERAnyway, I definitely felt like this was space team inspired

48:29SPEAKERas it was just so they, 'cause they wanted

48:30SPEAKERto give everybody interactive stuff to do.

48:32SPEAKER- You're just making me miss space team.

48:34SPEAKER- Space team's really good, it turns out.

48:38SPEAKERAnd that's pretty much it for, like we went on,

48:39SPEAKERthere's a linear accelerated rollercoaster

48:42SPEAKERat California Adventure that has a loop,

48:43SPEAKERwhich is crazy that there's a Disney rollercoaster

48:45SPEAKERthat has a loop, like it was a lot of,

48:50SPEAKERlike the whole thing was a lot of fun.

48:52SPEAKERThe thing that bummed me out is that,

48:55SPEAKERespecially in the first few hours you're in the park,

48:56SPEAKERyou're using your phone all the time

48:59SPEAKERbecause they've moved away from the FastPass thing

49:01SPEAKERwhere you go get the piece of paper, obviously,

49:02SPEAKER'cause it's 2022, to a thing that works on your phone.

49:06SPEAKERAnd I think you pay 20 bucks a person

49:08SPEAKERfor access to the Genie Plus feature,

49:10SPEAKERwhich is the FastPass type feature.

49:14SPEAKERThere's all sorts of rules that they absolutely,

49:16SPEAKERI'm sure intentionally don't explain clearly,

49:18SPEAKERlike every two hours you can add a new FastPass.

49:23SPEAKERSo you can only have one, they call it lightning lane,

49:26SPEAKERsorry, you only have one lightning lane active at a time,

49:31SPEAKERexcept the moment you cash one in

49:34SPEAKERwhile you're in the line for that ride,

49:36SPEAKERyou can sign up for your next one.

49:37SPEAKERYou can also sign up for one every two hours,

49:40SPEAKERwhether you're in, whether you use the last one or not.

49:45SPEAKERSo the upshot is you can get like a space mountain

49:48SPEAKERfor the end of the day when it gets long

49:50SPEAKERwhile you're waiting for something else

49:52SPEAKERand still have another ride

49:53SPEAKERif you're gonna go get dinner or something like that.

49:56SPEAKERThe Genie Plus thing also includes all the photos

49:58SPEAKERthat are taken on the rides.

50:00SPEAKERSo the thing where you like go down the space mountain,

50:03SPEAKEReverybody has the funny look on their face,

50:04SPEAKERand then you take the picture with the code

50:06SPEAKERon the end of the ride,

50:08SPEAKERyou can download those pictures later

50:09SPEAKERso you don't have to pay any extra money for those,

50:10SPEAKERwhich is nice.

50:12SPEAKER- Those are just delivered to you kind of automatically?

50:14SPEAKER- You have to know the code for your car.

50:18SPEAKERSo basically when you leave the ride,

50:19SPEAKERthere's a big wall of screens

50:21SPEAKERwith like 50 different pictures on them,

50:24SPEAKERand you find yourself on the screens,

50:26SPEAKERand then literally we just took a picture of those screens.

50:29SPEAKERSo we get the code, you type the code in the app later,

50:32SPEAKERand you can just download it.

50:33SPEAKER- But if you'd like to do that, you're kind of out of luck?

50:35SPEAKER- Well, if you miss the code, you're out of luck.

50:39SPEAKERThey also have photographers just in the park

50:41SPEAKERstanding there in front of like cool shots

50:44SPEAKERthat you can wait in line for and take a picture,

50:47SPEAKERand they do like, they'll superimpose some stuff.

50:51SPEAKERLike we did one in a car's land

50:53SPEAKERwhere they put a trophy in the kiddo's hands.

50:57SPEAKERWe didn't do a whole lot of that,

51:00SPEAKERbut the photographers were really,

51:01SPEAKERlike the ones that we did,

51:02SPEAKERthe photographers were really great.

51:03SPEAKERLike I was really pleasantly surprised,

51:05SPEAKERand the photos turned out really well,

51:07SPEAKERand they did a good job,

51:08SPEAKERlike getting the kids to be normal and all that stuff.

51:12SPEAKERThe, you have to almost have to,

51:18SPEAKERunless you want to wait in line for food,

51:21SPEAKERyou can also order food in advance from the park.

51:24SPEAKERSome food places don't even have the ability

51:27SPEAKERto take money anymore.

51:28SPEAKERSo you have to use the app to order

51:31SPEAKERin order to get food from some of the restaurants

51:33SPEAKERand to book reservations and stuff like that.

51:35SPEAKER- I guess it goes without saying

51:35SPEAKERto really do much of anything with this app,

51:38SPEAKERyou have to load payment information into it.

51:40SPEAKERIt just, let's see.

51:43SPEAKER- Or do I just say it probably just interfaces

51:44SPEAKERwith Apple Pay or Google, whatever, right?

51:47SPEAKER- I think it interfaces with Apple Pay,

51:50SPEAKERbut also it's how you buy your tickets for the park.

51:52SPEAKERSo you've already given them your credit.

51:54SPEAKERLike by the time you're in the park,

51:55SPEAKERthey already have everything they need to know

51:57SPEAKERabout you, Brad.

51:58SPEAKER- Of course, of course.

52:00SPEAKER- But like the benefit is you can look at wait times

52:03SPEAKERand stuff like that in the app.

52:05SPEAKERSo the wait times were wildly inaccurate in a lot of cases.

52:09SPEAKERSo sometimes it would be like there's a 15 minute wait time

52:11SPEAKERand then we went to Autopia and it would,

52:13SPEAKERwe sat in line for an hour and then we rode Autopia,

52:17SPEAKERwhich was not worth waiting in line for an hour or four.

52:20SPEAKER- What is Autopia?

52:21SPEAKER- Autopia is, it was called Green Light Go in Florida.

52:25SPEAKERIt's one of the early, it's one of the first day rides.

52:30SPEAKERSo you get in these gas powered go carts

52:32SPEAKERand can drive around this big track.

52:34SPEAKERThe challenge of it is when they launched,

52:36SPEAKERI don't think it had rails.

52:38SPEAKERSo you could just drive the carts anywhere

52:39SPEAKERand people were driving them out into like paths and shit.

52:42SPEAKER- Rules.

52:43SPEAKER- But now the problem is they're a bunch

52:45SPEAKERof really old go carts and they stall out all the time

52:48SPEAKERand like they'd never went really fast in the first place.

52:50SPEAKERBut it is like when you're a little kid, it's fun

52:52SPEAKER'cause you get to steer kind of within the confines

52:54SPEAKERof the rails, I guess.

52:55SPEAKER- It was part of Tomorrowland, it looks like.

52:57SPEAKER- It is still part of Tomorrowland.

52:59SPEAKERIt's next to the monorail.

53:00SPEAKER- Oh, that's a good name, Tomorrowland.

53:02SPEAKER- The problem with it is the queue is all up

53:05SPEAKERin the fume zone for the two stroke gas.

53:08SPEAKERLike they need to switch that thing to electric

53:10SPEAKERis my takeaway.

53:13SPEAKER- It's like it is these days powered by Honda.

53:15SPEAKER- Yeah, we saw Osmo.

53:17SPEAKEROsmo featured prominently in the queue experience

53:21SPEAKERfor that ride.

53:23SPEAKERSo yeah, like the phone thing was a mixed bag.

53:27SPEAKEROnce we got the hang of it, then you just remembered

53:29SPEAKERto the moment you cashed in one of your lightning lanes

53:32SPEAKERto like while you're waiting in the short line

53:34SPEAKERto fill in to sign up for the next one.

53:37SPEAKERAnd that let us ride like 20 things on the first day.

53:39SPEAKERLike we rode a shitload of rides.

53:42SPEAKER- That's pretty impressive.

53:42SPEAKERI mean, I was gonna say though, like this sounds

53:44SPEAKERlike you need some pretty damn good organizational skills.

53:49SPEAKERLike you need like a day planner or something.

53:50SPEAKERLike you really need to stay on top of this stuff

53:52SPEAKERto kind of optimize.

53:54SPEAKERIt sort of sounds like work, but.

53:56SPEAKER- It was a little bit, I mean, like I like playing games

54:00SPEAKERlike Factorio where you min-max stuff

54:02SPEAKERand it became very much that like, okay, if we go,

54:06SPEAKERthe lightning lane for this is an hour and a half from now

54:09SPEAKERand there's three rides with five minute waits

54:11SPEAKERbetween here and there.

54:11SPEAKERSo let's go ride those three rides on the way.

54:13SPEAKERAnd like, I mean, look, there's a, I don't know.

54:17SPEAKERI don't know if that's healthy.

54:18SPEAKERIt became part of the game for me.

54:23SPEAKERBut yeah, it was a fascinating experience.

54:27SPEAKERI didn't expect to, like I expected it to be

54:29SPEAKERa tolerable thing at best and it ended up being quite fun.

54:33SPEAKERAnd I mean, the one thing I will say is that the entire,

54:37SPEAKERwell, okay, so unlike Universal,

54:40SPEAKERwhich is designed to be a place that you come in

54:41SPEAKERand then buy a bunch of shit in a store

54:43SPEAKERthat looks like the Kwik-E-Mart

54:45SPEAKERor like Hogwarts or like the wand place, whatever.

54:51SPEAKER- Wait, hang on.

54:52SPEAKERIs there Simpsons stuff at Universal?

54:53SPEAKER- Oh yeah, there's a whole Simpsons land.

54:56SPEAKER- Wait, I'm trying to think what the,

54:57SPEAKERwhat was the corporate IP connection there

54:59SPEAKERthat allowed that to happen?

55:00SPEAKER'Cause obviously now Simpsons is part of Disney.

55:03SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm sure it was a,

55:04SPEAKERsomebody signed away theme park rights for Disney

55:06SPEAKERat 20th Century Fox at some point to NBC, right?

55:09SPEAKER- Sure.

55:10SPEAKER- But it's like, I had a crusty burger.

55:13SPEAKERI had a crusty burger.

55:14SPEAKERIt was as you would expect.

55:16SPEAKER- Was it a hamburger?

55:17SPEAKER- It was a hamburger with some cheese and pickles.

55:19SPEAKER- Was there literally anything novel about it?

55:20SPEAKER- There was crusty sauce on it.

55:21SPEAKERIt was wrapped in a crusty thing.

55:23SPEAKERAnd the person that I was, that I bought it from

55:26SPEAKERwas dressed like the crusty employees.

55:29SPEAKER- Okay, so did they have the same look

55:32SPEAKERof like gloom and despair on their face?

55:34SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

55:35SPEAKER- Okay, okay, yeah.

55:36SPEAKERWhat does crusty sauce taste like?

55:38SPEAKER- It's like mayonnaise and pickle relish

55:40SPEAKERand ketchup mixed up probably.

55:42SPEAKER- So like a Big Mac.

55:43SPEAKER- It's a Thousand Island dressing if I had to guess.

55:45SPEAKER- Yeah, okay.

55:47SPEAKER- The fries were pretty good, I'll say.

55:49SPEAKERAnd they had the fancy Coke machine

55:51SPEAKERso you could get like whatever,

55:52SPEAKERyou get like a cherry vanilla orange Fanta

55:55SPEAKERif you wanted something that was horrifying.

55:57SPEAKER- Were the fries crusty?

56:00SPEAKER- No, they were crisp.

56:02SPEAKERThey were lightly salted.

56:03SPEAKERIt was a good fry experience, I'm gonna say.

56:05SPEAKERYeah, the Simpsons ride was underwhelmed.

56:10SPEAKERSo the Universal rides are all like 4D for the most part.

56:14SPEAKER- When you say 4D, I mean, can you define that?

56:16SPEAKER- Yeah, it's- - Just for the record.

56:17SPEAKER- You get in a seat, you buckle in the seat

56:21SPEAKERand then you watch a screen

56:22SPEAKERwhile the seat's like moving around and shaking.

56:24SPEAKERAnd then I think the 4D is that sometimes it squirts you

56:26SPEAKERor blasts you with a fan.

56:28SPEAKER- I see, of course.

56:30SPEAKERThe fourth dimension, water in the face.

56:32SPEAKER- Yeah, water and wind.

56:34SPEAKERThe studio tour ride,

56:35SPEAKERwhich I thought was gonna be really cheesy,

56:37SPEAKERis the thing famously noted in like the end of "Animal House"

56:42SPEAKERwhere one of the characters becomes a tour,

56:44SPEAKERUniversal Studios Hollywood,

56:45SPEAKERa tour guide in the Universal Studios Hollywood.

56:48SPEAKERYou get in this big, long bus thing with a bunch of seats

56:52SPEAKERand then like it is not just you

56:54SPEAKERdriving around the studio back a lot

56:56SPEAKERlooking at places where movies were made is what I'll say.

56:59SPEAKERLike they bring you into some dark ride stuff

57:01SPEAKERand apparently they buckle that thing onto like

57:04SPEAKERonto armatures and some shit happens.

57:07SPEAKERIt was fun, that was cheesy, but fun, I would say.

57:11SPEAKERAnd Vin Diesel talks about family.

57:13SPEAKERSo, you know, must be good at that at that point.

57:16SPEAKER- Of course.

57:18SPEAKER- But yeah, Universal seems much more like a place

57:20SPEAKERwhere you go and like the other thing

57:23SPEAKERis the "Harry Potter" ride, which I don't, is fraught

57:26SPEAKERfor a whole bunch of reasons,

57:27SPEAKERbut we weren't going to Universal

57:29SPEAKERand not riding the "Harry Potter" ride.

57:32SPEAKER- I mean, they've already got your money at that point.

57:34SPEAKER- Yeah, the "Harry Potter" ride

57:37SPEAKERis a 4D thing that's on rails.

57:39SPEAKERI think it replaced the old "Back to the Future" ride.

57:42SPEAKERSo basically you get into a cockpit

57:44SPEAKERthat's attached to the armature,

57:45SPEAKERbut then the armature is on a track.

57:49SPEAKERThe base of the armature is on a track

57:51SPEAKERand you get basically moved around this big life-size diorama

57:55SPEAKERand blasted in front of screens occasionally

57:57SPEAKERwhere you feel like you're writing a broomstick

57:59SPEAKERthe whole time, it was pretty cool.

58:01SPEAKERApparently it makes a lot of people motion sick.

58:04SPEAKERNobody in our party was affected though.

58:06SPEAKER- That's good.

58:07SPEAKERAnd the wand?

58:09SPEAKER- The wand, so you buy this expensive ass wand,

58:13SPEAKERit's an $80 wand, it's a pretty nice-

58:15SPEAKER- Oh, I see, I see how it is.

58:16SPEAKERYou can't build a lightsaber, but you will buy a wand.

58:19SPEAKER- Look, I didn't make these choices necessarily.

58:27SPEAKERThen there's spaces around.

58:29SPEAKERSo the thing about the "Harry Potter" land and Universal

58:31SPEAKERis that they've themed up a whole village

58:33SPEAKERoutside of the castle, right?

58:35SPEAKERSo you see the castle off in the distance,

58:36SPEAKERbut there's a village where there's food and drinks

58:39SPEAKERand you can buy robes and all of the merch is available.

58:46SPEAKERBut in the windows of the shops,

58:47SPEAKERthey have places that you can,

58:49SPEAKERlike there's little plaques on the ground

58:51SPEAKERand you can stand on them and cast magic spells

58:54SPEAKERwith the magical $80 wand.

58:57SPEAKERAnd then animatronic shit happens

58:59SPEAKERinside the windows of the shops.

59:02SPEAKERGonna go ahead and tell you, pretty cool.

59:03SPEAKERThe animatronic stuff that happens

59:04SPEAKERinside the windows of the shops, pretty good.

59:07SPEAKERLike they have quills that are writing themselves,

59:10SPEAKERthat are taking notes themselves

59:11SPEAKERwith nobody working on them.

59:13SPEAKERYou can make them stop and go and stuff like that.

59:15SPEAKERIt's like, it's goofy, it was really, really fiddly.

59:20SPEAKERBasically you have to tell the children

59:22SPEAKERto point the wand to the camera

59:23SPEAKERin order to make the wand work.

59:25SPEAKER- I see.

59:25SPEAKER- But then once they get the knack,

59:26SPEAKERyou see children just walking up to the window

59:28SPEAKERand doing the thing and the adults are like,

59:30SPEAKER"How the fuck did they do that?"

59:32SPEAKERNone of this ever works when we try it, so.

59:34SPEAKER- Do the wands have any kind of buttons

59:35SPEAKERor any other controls on them

59:37SPEAKERor is it just a pointing line of sight?

59:38SPEAKER- The wands have a reflector in the tip

59:41SPEAKERthat is detected or some sort of a thing

59:44SPEAKERthat is picked up by a camera in the window.

59:50SPEAKERAnd it worked in full daylight, so I mean, good on them.

59:56SPEAKERI think that's pretty much it.

59:57SPEAKER- And you keep the wand?

59:59SPEAKER- The wand is yours, God, I'd hope so.

1:00:01SPEAKER- $80?

1:00:02SPEAKER- $80 a day is kind of expensive.

1:00:05SPEAKEROh, Universal also has a thing that works like Genie Plus

1:00:07SPEAKERwhere you can skip the line.

1:00:10SPEAKERBoth of them you can only do once per day,

1:00:12SPEAKERlike you can only skip the line once per day.

1:00:15SPEAKERThe Universal one is really expensive

1:00:17SPEAKER'cause they price it based on demand.

1:00:20SPEAKERSo it was like, one day we were there, it was like 30 bucks

1:00:23SPEAKERand one day it was like $70 each.

1:00:30SPEAKERIt works much better at Universal because they don't,

1:00:32SPEAKERbecause the Genie Plus at Disney is 20 bucks per person

1:00:36SPEAKERso everybody who hits the park buys it

1:00:38SPEAKER'cause it's like, the whole park is a sunk cost fallacy,

1:00:41SPEAKERof course, I'm already in for this much,

1:00:44SPEAKERwhat's another 20, 30, 50, $100?

1:00:47SPEAKER- Well, but it's like, hey, we can pay 60 bucks

1:00:51SPEAKERand not wait two hours in line

1:00:52SPEAKERfor the rise of the resistance.

1:00:54SPEAKERI'm absolutely going to do that

1:00:56SPEAKERbecause the other option is to buy another day's park ticket

1:01:01SPEAKERwhich is way more expensive.

1:01:03SPEAKERSo yeah, basically just go and expect,

1:01:06SPEAKERif you're gonna go to this shed,

1:01:07SPEAKERexpect to be hung upside down by your ankles

1:01:09SPEAKERuntil they shake all of the money out of you.

1:01:11SPEAKER- Of course, this all sounds cool,

1:01:13SPEAKERbut I mean, this all sounds like what I would expect

1:01:17SPEAKERfrom a modern theme park experience.

1:01:18SPEAKERLike I haven't really heard anything

1:01:20SPEAKERthat was like truly mind blowing

1:01:21SPEAKERfrom an R&D technology standpoint,

1:01:23SPEAKERlike the use of mobile phone to lubricate the process

1:01:26SPEAKERsounds about like what I would expect,

1:01:28SPEAKERlike the evolution of the rides

1:01:30SPEAKERwith the Star Wars stuff in particular,

1:01:32SPEAKERlike they've added some stuff.

1:01:34SPEAKERNothing sounds wildly futuristic to me though

1:01:36SPEAKERfrom what you're describing.

1:01:37SPEAKER- I will, so I intentionally kind of under described

1:01:40SPEAKERthe Rise ride, like there were moments in there

1:01:43SPEAKERwhere I was like, holy shit, how have they done this?

1:01:45SPEAKER- Okay, that's cool.

1:01:46SPEAKER- Like there's a moment where you walk out of a shuttle

1:01:49SPEAKERand you're captured by the first order

1:01:51SPEAKERand you walk out and you're in this huge hangar

1:01:53SPEAKERand there's a bazillion stormtroopers there

1:01:55SPEAKERjust standing at attention,

1:01:56SPEAKERbut they're also kind of like idly moving around

1:01:58SPEAKER'cause they're kind of shit stormtroopers.

1:02:00SPEAKERThey're not just standing perfectly still.

1:02:02SPEAKERSo there's like 80 animatronic stormtroopers standing there.

1:02:05SPEAKER- Jeez, that's a lot.

1:02:07SPEAKER- Yeah, like, or maybe it's 80 cast members

1:02:09SPEAKERthat just stand there all day.

1:02:10SPEAKER- I don't know.

1:02:13SPEAKERIt's like there's a lot of that stuff.

1:02:20SPEAKERSo the thing that I will say is that there's a lot of stuff

1:02:22SPEAKERin the how they manage the actual rides,

1:02:24SPEAKERlike the queuing stuff and how they manage people

1:02:27SPEAKERgetting on and off of roller coasters and stuff like that

1:02:29SPEAKERis much better and less stressful than I was expecting.

1:02:35SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, honestly, if there's one area

1:02:37SPEAKERyou really want to see improvement,

1:02:38SPEAKERit's in the just getting you on and off stuff efficiently.

1:02:42SPEAKER- Well, but also they always have somebody there

1:02:44SPEAKERthat asks how many people are in your party

1:02:46SPEAKERand they make sure that you don't get split up

1:02:47SPEAKERwith your kids and stuff like that,

1:02:49SPEAKERwhich is what always happens at Six Flags

1:02:50SPEAKERand Great America and stuff like that.

1:02:52SPEAKERSo there's a real focus on making sure

1:02:57SPEAKERthat people have a good time in a way that isn't,

1:03:01SPEAKERit doesn't feel like it's run by carnies,

1:03:02SPEAKERI guess is what I'm saying.

1:03:04SPEAKER- Well, that's a plus.

1:03:05SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, it's nice.

1:03:09SPEAKERYeah, I don't know that.

1:03:10SPEAKERI'm sure I'll go back at some point.

1:03:12SPEAKERI'm not, I have not, I was a little worried when I got there

1:03:15SPEAKERthat I was gonna turn into a Disney person

1:03:16SPEAKERafter a brief exposure to the park.

1:03:18SPEAKERSo I think I'm cool.

1:03:21SPEAKERIt was fun, but it turns out I like having money also,

1:03:24SPEAKERso we won't be going back all that often.

1:03:26SPEAKERIf I lived in Anaheim, I would buy season passes, I think.

1:03:29SPEAKERIt would be cool to just zip out to the park

1:03:30SPEAKERand hang out for a little bit and then zip back home.

1:03:33SPEAKERAnyway, so that's Disneyland.

1:03:35SPEAKER- Well, hey, glad you had fun.

1:03:37SPEAKERAs always, it is fascinating to look and see

1:03:40SPEAKERhow those kind of complicated systems work

1:03:42SPEAKERbecause I would love, like I would love, love, love

1:03:47SPEAKERto be able to go and like see what it's like,

1:03:50SPEAKERwhat like what the operations center for Disneyland

1:03:52SPEAKERis like for the band, right?

1:03:54SPEAKER- Imagine that control room.

1:03:55SPEAKER- It's gotta be really cool.

1:03:57SPEAKER- I mean, there's gotta be like multiple dedicated rooms

1:04:00SPEAKERfor different stuff, right?

1:04:01SPEAKERLike park security and like kind of animatronic

1:04:03SPEAKERand motion stuff and like I'm sure those functions

1:04:05SPEAKERare pretty separated out, right?

1:04:07SPEAKER'Cause there's so much.

1:04:08SPEAKER- I bet like the animatronic and motion stuff is per ride.

1:04:10SPEAKER- Yeah, sure.

1:04:11SPEAKER- Like I bet there's like control rooms per ride,

1:04:13SPEAKERbut I bet the, my guess is that there's like some sort

1:04:15SPEAKERof overall park or area control center where they're like,

1:04:19SPEAKERokay, the ride, the light on Rise of the Resistance

1:04:22SPEAKERis getting long, let's, you know, open up something else

1:04:25SPEAKERon blah, blah, blah so we can suck people out of that area

1:04:28SPEAKERand into this area and yeah.

1:04:30SPEAKER- The Disneyland nerve center.

1:04:32SPEAKER- That's what I'd like to see.

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1:06:07SPEAKER- I think next week,

1:06:09SPEAKERI don't know if we can say what we're talking about next week

1:06:11SPEAKER'cause there's an embargo.

1:06:13SPEAKER- Sort of top secret hardware kind of.

1:06:16SPEAKER- I mean, everybody probably can guess.

1:06:19SPEAKERSo we're gonna talk,

1:06:20SPEAKERwe have a hardware episode next week

1:06:22SPEAKERwhere we're talking about some video card stuff.

1:06:25SPEAKERThe next week after that,

1:06:26SPEAKERI think we have Gordon scheduled to return

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1:06:32SPEAKER- That's exciting.

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