133: The Lady and the Samba Problem

00:00SPEAKERLet's do it live, Brad.

00:01SPEAKER- What are we doing live?

00:02SPEAKER- I'm just not gonna look at the questions.

00:04SPEAKER- Well, you haven't looked at the questions, so.

00:06SPEAKER- I'm gonna continue to not look at the questions.

00:08SPEAKER- You prepared very well for not preparing at all.

00:10SPEAKERNot one bit of preparation for this Q&A podcast.

00:14SPEAKERHave you done?

00:15SPEAKER- People may not know this.

00:15SPEAKERWe recorded two podcasts today,

00:17SPEAKERand one of them I was very prepared for.

00:19SPEAKER- This is actually,

00:21SPEAKERwe're about to record our fourth podcast for the week.

00:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

00:25SPEAKER- Did you realize that?

00:26SPEAKER- I mean, for a show that's one podcast a week,

00:29SPEAKERabout a single topic,

00:30SPEAKERwe maybe, maybe we've overstretched ourselves.

00:33SPEAKER- I think we've made some questionable choices,

00:35SPEAKERbut yeah, so okay.

00:38SPEAKERI chose every single one of these questions.

00:40SPEAKERThis is a 100% me filtered Q&A.

00:43SPEAKER- Well, it's only fair,

00:44SPEAKER'cause on the patron episode this month,

00:46SPEAKERor what I think of as the choose your own patron episode.

00:49SPEAKER- That's right.

00:50SPEAKER- I chose every single one of the topics.

00:51SPEAKER- All of the doors in the choose your own adventure episode

00:54SPEAKERfor patrons said will on them, so.

00:56SPEAKER- Do you think that's choose your own adventure?

00:58SPEAKEROr do you think it's like the lady and the samba problem?

01:03SPEAKER- Oh my God.

01:04SPEAKERBut that was the worst one.

01:06SPEAKERLike when the book fair came around,

01:07SPEAKERI just grabbed that one and threw it right in the trash.

01:09SPEAKER- Yeah, the lady or the samba problem,

01:10SPEAKERit's not a good, good, hey, okay.

01:12SPEAKERI have a cold open question for you.

01:14SPEAKER- All right.

01:15SPEAKER- When you were a kid

01:16SPEAKERand the Scholastic Book Fair came to town,

01:18SPEAKERdid you have to pay for the books?

01:20SPEAKEROr did you get the books for free?

01:22SPEAKER- Oh no, yeah, we had to pay for them.

01:23SPEAKERWe had like a little order form.

01:24SPEAKERI think they gave you like a slip

01:26SPEAKERthat had all the books listed on it,

01:27SPEAKERand you like filled it out, if I remember.

01:29SPEAKER- See, we had, I could be wrong on this,

01:32SPEAKERbut I think in Northeast Tennessee,

01:34SPEAKERand I think this might be due to the largess

01:36SPEAKERof one Dolly Parton,

01:37SPEAKERwho is the patron saint of Northeast Tennessee.

01:40SPEAKER- So I hear.

01:41SPEAKER- I believe that we just got one book per child.

01:46SPEAKERNo matter what.

01:46SPEAKER- Okay, could you get more if you wanted?

01:49SPEAKER- That part is unclear to me.

01:50SPEAKER- For money?

01:51SPEAKERI mean, one free book is a lot better than we had,

01:53SPEAKERwhich was zero free books.

01:54SPEAKER- I mean, I think the point was,

01:55SPEAKERmake sure some kids have some books.

01:57SPEAKER- Yeah.

01:58SPEAKER- 'Cause she's all about literacy.

01:59SPEAKER- Dolly Parton seems like a fine human being.

02:02SPEAKER- I've never had any interaction with her

02:04SPEAKERother than as a fan of her work and her generosity,

02:07SPEAKERand I have been to Dollywood once

02:08SPEAKERwhile she was apparently there,

02:09SPEAKERas evidenced by the traditional signal.

02:12SPEAKER- Do you think we could get her on the show?

02:14SPEAKER- I don't, I doubt it.

02:15SPEAKER- Do you think she would come tell us

02:16SPEAKERabout her backup strategies?

02:18SPEAKERLike what kind of nasty do you think she's running?

02:19SPEAKER- I bet she has a guy who does,

02:21SPEAKERI bet, actually, I bet she has a person

02:24SPEAKERwho does that for her.

02:25SPEAKER- Man, if I could replace my home server with a person.

02:29SPEAKER- Look, I'm working on it, man.

02:31SPEAKERI gotta train my daughter to be the IT person.

02:33SPEAKERThat's the plan.

02:34SPEAKERThen I don't have to do this anymore.

02:36SPEAKER- Sure, you want to inflict that on your daughter?

02:38SPEAKER- Probably not.

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02:55SPEAKER(upbeat music continues)

03:07SPEAKER- Welcome to "Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod."

03:10SPEAKERI'm Will.

03:10SPEAKER- I'm Brad.

03:11SPEAKER- Brad.

03:12SPEAKER- I'm Brad.

03:13SPEAKER- I'm Brad.

03:14SPEAKER- Hi.

03:15SPEAKER- It's the first episode of the month,

03:15SPEAKERwhich means it is the,

03:17SPEAKERwe're breaking rules here this month.

03:19SPEAKER- Convention is being smashed here.

03:22SPEAKER- Wait, does this mean that May is a five moon,

03:24SPEAKERfive week month, it's a long, it's a long May.

03:27SPEAKER- Well, it's a 30 day month.

03:28SPEAKER- 'Cause May starts on a Sunday.

03:30SPEAKER- Right, but it's a 30 day month, so.

03:32SPEAKER- It's a 31 day month.

03:33SPEAKER- Is it?

03:34SPEAKER- 30 days have September, April, June,

03:35SPEAKERand all in November, all the rest have 31,

03:36SPEAKERexcept for February, which is fucked up.

03:38SPEAKER- Wait, did I get that backwards?

03:40SPEAKERI thought it was May.

03:41SPEAKER- May is 31.

03:44SPEAKER- Days in May.

03:45SPEAKER- I'm looking at a calendar right now.

03:46SPEAKERI can assure you, unless Windows 11 has added a month,

03:51SPEAKERa day to the month of May.

03:52SPEAKER- Wow.

03:53SPEAKER- Yeah.

03:54SPEAKER- I don't know that mnemonic as well as I thought it.

03:56SPEAKER- 30 days have September, April, June, and November.

03:59SPEAKER- Right, and for some reason in my mind,

04:00SPEAKERit was April, May, and November.

04:02SPEAKER- Ah, no, June.

04:03SPEAKER- As I said.

04:05SPEAKER- June is a 30 day one.

04:07SPEAKERFor a long time, my birthday is May 15th,

04:09SPEAKERfor a long time I thought that my birthday

04:10SPEAKERwas the middle of the year because I'm bad at math

04:13SPEAKERand I was thinking decimals, 'cause you know,

04:15SPEAKERit's the fifth month.

04:16SPEAKER- Ah yes, the approaching summer Wilstis.

04:19SPEAKER- Yeah, and then I realized that

04:21SPEAKERwhen I was at an embarrassing age,

04:23SPEAKERI was like, oh, neither is my,

04:25SPEAKERI am not the middle of the year,

04:27SPEAKERnor is May 15th the middle.

04:30SPEAKERI'm off by a month and a half, basically.

04:32SPEAKER- Ah yes, May 15th, the longest beard of the year.

04:35SPEAKER- Yes, exactly.

04:37SPEAKERBut yeah, so we're breaking protocol.

04:40SPEAKERWe are turning Qs into As on this,

04:42SPEAKERthe first podcast of the new month

04:44SPEAKERinstead of the last podcast of the old month.

04:45SPEAKER- I've already forgotten what last week's podcast was.

04:48SPEAKEROh, the play date and the spring cleaning double whammy.

04:51SPEAKER- It wasn't quite a potpourri.

04:52SPEAKERIt was a duotone maybe, I don't know.

04:55SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway, here we are in the first week

04:57SPEAKERwith some questions.

04:58SPEAKER- I'm kind of obsessed with the play date.

05:00SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, I don't know how much we can talk

05:03SPEAKERabout the patron episode for people who don't patronize

05:06SPEAKERand aren't going to hear it.

05:08SPEAKER- There's a question that might be a promise

05:09SPEAKERthat's an ambiguous level of promise.

05:11SPEAKER- Yes.

05:12SPEAKER- The non-binding question slash concept.

05:15SPEAKER- We're entertaining an ongoing project

05:17SPEAKERthat might involve a certain twee yellow handheld.

05:20SPEAKER- And us.

05:22SPEAKER- Yeah.

05:22SPEAKER- Building a thing.

05:23SPEAKER- And yes, learning some new skills.

05:25SPEAKER- Or multiple things, who knows?

05:26SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway, enough about that.

05:29SPEAKERPerhaps more on that later.

05:30SPEAKERFor now, questions?

05:32SPEAKER- Questions, emails.

05:34SPEAKER- Did you even look at the inbox?

05:36SPEAKER- We have an inbox?

05:37SPEAKER- You can't say emails

05:39SPEAKERif we're not actually even reading the emails.

05:40SPEAKER- Oh.

05:41SPEAKER- I only pulled these questions from the Discord.

05:44SPEAKER- Hold on, I have the inbox open.

05:46SPEAKERI'm going to go and tell you there are a lot of emails

05:48SPEAKERin the email box that are like,

05:49SPEAKER"Hey, yo, you should use Unraid."

05:52SPEAKER- Okay.

05:54SPEAKER- Noted.

05:55SPEAKER- Noted, thank you, yeah.

05:58SPEAKER- What else do you got?

06:01SPEAKER- Any offers of lucrative ad deals?

06:03SPEAKER- Yeah, we should look at this mailbox more often, Brad.

06:06SPEAKER- Any how to increase your reach?

06:08SPEAKER- No.

06:09SPEAKER- We do say that email address out loud

06:11SPEAKERon the show still, right?

06:12SPEAKER- David Tull, the email address is techpod@content.town.

06:16SPEAKERDavid Tull writes, "As of the submission of this question,

06:19SPEAKERthe discourse around the new Steam Deck

06:21SPEAKERseems very positive.

06:22SPEAKERThis seems weird to me based on what happened

06:23SPEAKERto the Steam Machine years ago.

06:25SPEAKERAm I wrong in thinking that the Steam Deck

06:27SPEAKERis going to end up like its forebear

06:28SPEAKERdue to limitations on upgrading the Steam Deck's components?

06:31SPEAKEROr am I jaded on Valve gadgets

06:33SPEAKERas someone who bought a Launch Alienware Alpha

06:36SPEAKERand a Steam Controller?

06:37SPEAKERI still use the former, but not the latter."

06:40SPEAKER- I regret to tell you you're wrong.

06:43SPEAKERNot you, him, he asked am I wrong

06:46SPEAKERabout thinking that the Steam Deck

06:48SPEAKERis going to go the way of Steam Machines,

06:50SPEAKERwhich it absolutely will not.

06:53SPEAKER- I mean, eventually it will become out of date

06:54SPEAKERand no longer able to run the games

06:56SPEAKERthat are the current generations.

06:58SPEAKER- That's kind of a cop out, isn't it?

07:00SPEAKERBecause that's everything.

07:01SPEAKEREverything will age and die eventually,

07:04SPEAKERincluding the Steam Deck.

07:05SPEAKER- Yeah, I think that the Valve Index

07:08SPEAKERand the HTC Vive and the work that they did in the VR space

07:12SPEAKERkind of washed the taint of the Steam Machines off of them.

07:15SPEAKER- I mean, there's nothing wrong with Steam Machines, right?

07:17SPEAKERThey just didn't catch on.

07:19SPEAKER- Well, the problem with them was they ran Linux

07:21SPEAKERand there was no infrastructure

07:22SPEAKERfor running games on Linux at that time.

07:24SPEAKER- Oh, right, you still had to do native ports back then,

07:26SPEAKERright, like Proton was not really a thing.

07:29SPEAKER- I mean, WineX was there and Wine was there,

07:31SPEAKERbut it didn't work very well.

07:32SPEAKER- But I mean, Valve is a major,

07:34SPEAKERif not the major contributor to Proton,

07:36SPEAKERso obviously they had not done that work at that time.

07:40SPEAKER- Dave's sacrifices paved the way

07:43SPEAKERfor Proton's growth and acceptance.

07:45SPEAKER- I mean, dude, the fervor around the Steam Deck is such

07:47SPEAKERthat I am very confident it is going nowhere.

07:50SPEAKERLike, people on my feed, like, say, Greg Miller,

07:53SPEAKERwho don't give a shit about PC games,

07:55SPEAKERare out there going like,

07:56SPEAKER"Hey, does Rogue Legacy 2 run on the Steam Deck?"

07:58SPEAKERLike, everybody wants to play games on the Steam Deck.

08:00SPEAKER- Dude, I look at my Steam Deck page every day

08:02SPEAKERto see if I can pre-order.

08:03SPEAKER- Like, that thing, nothing is going nowhere.

08:05SPEAKER- My fear right now is that I'll miss the email

08:09SPEAKERbecause of spam that says,

08:11SPEAKER"Hey, yo, you can order it now.

08:12SPEAKER"You have three hours, but get to it."

08:15SPEAKER- Well, I wish you luck and good fortune.

08:18SPEAKERI'm over here cranking it, which is enough for me.

08:21SPEAKERAll right, we need to read questions.

08:24SPEAKER- I just did one.

08:25SPEAKERWe did an email.

08:26SPEAKER- Okay, we need to read more questions.

08:27SPEAKERThank you for your contribution.

08:30SPEAKER- I'm participating.

08:31SPEAKER- Let's see, should I start with a serious one

08:33SPEAKERor a dumb one?

08:35SPEAKERI mean, what's a serious one?

08:36SPEAKERDumb, not like bad dumb.

08:37SPEAKER- Silly, stupid.

08:40SPEAKER- Man, Q&A MVP, chair batter.

08:44SPEAKER- Ooh, this month.

08:47SPEAKERHow far do you think you could throw

08:48SPEAKERa slice of bread Frisbee style?

08:50SPEAKER- Oh, man.

08:51SPEAKER- Do you think plain white bread

08:52SPEAKERis more aerodynamically sound than multigrain?

08:55SPEAKERI think multigrain takes it by a mile, right?

08:57SPEAKER'Cause it's denser and more cohesive.

09:01SPEAKERIt's going to retain its shape in mid-air better.

09:03SPEAKER- Often heavy multigrain though is kind of dry

09:09SPEAKERin a way that I think the torsional stress on it

09:12SPEAKERmight cause it to fly apart.

09:13SPEAKER- Okay, that's an angle I had not considered.

09:16SPEAKER- Yeah, I think a nice moist slice of white bread

09:19SPEAKERis going to hold its consistency

09:21SPEAKER'cause like it's basically nothing

09:22SPEAKERthat's held together by crust.

09:24SPEAKER- Fair.

09:25SPEAKER- And I think you might even get some

09:26SPEAKERAerobie action in there.

09:27SPEAKERLike maybe the white part flies out

09:30SPEAKERand it's just crust, a disc of crust flying.

09:34SPEAKERWe could test this.

09:35SPEAKERI realize this site is,

09:36SPEAKERwe're not at anything that involves testing anymore.

09:39SPEAKER- We have no venue for testing, I'm sorry.

09:41SPEAKER- I have a backyard, dude.

09:42SPEAKER- Okay.

09:43SPEAKER- I don't know how many white bread though.

09:44SPEAKER- I guess that counts.

09:46SPEAKER- I feel like, I also feel like,

09:48SPEAKERlike you're square or a wheat kind of like,

09:52SPEAKERlike I feel like you can get some wheat bread

09:54SPEAKERthat is nutritionally as devoid of,

09:56SPEAKERas white bread at this point too.

09:59SPEAKERThat's probably your best bet.

10:00SPEAKERThat's the best of both worlds.

10:02SPEAKER- You think so?

10:03SPEAKER- It's moist, it's going to withstand the rotational stress.

10:07SPEAKERI don't know, 20 feet, do you think 20 feet?

10:10SPEAKER- Hmm, I believe it.

10:12SPEAKERI might not put money on it, but I would believe it.

10:14SPEAKER- I bet I could get 20 feet.

10:16SPEAKER- As long as the crust makes it over the line.

10:18SPEAKER- Check my Twitter, I'll be,

10:19SPEAKERI'm going to go check it out after we finish this podcast.

10:22SPEAKER- That's regulation.

10:25SPEAKERAll right.

10:26SPEAKERFishy Jay, I had their question up

10:29SPEAKERand then I just lost it and hold on.

10:30SPEAKERWhat's the normal amount of Discord servers to be in?

10:34SPEAKERI like that they asked what is the normal amount,

10:36SPEAKERnot a normal amount as if there is one,

10:39SPEAKERone universally accepted answer.

10:41SPEAKER- How many Discord servers are you in, Brad?

10:43SPEAKER- I was going to count earlier,

10:45SPEAKERbut I'm just going to, most of them are in folders,

10:47SPEAKERso it would actually be kind of a giant pain

10:48SPEAKERto count them all.

10:50SPEAKERI can tell you I'm only active in three

10:53SPEAKERand two of them are four jobs.

10:55SPEAKERTwo of them are Nextlander and the Tech Pod

10:57SPEAKERand then the other one is a one for friends,

10:59SPEAKERbut I'm probably-

11:00SPEAKER- Are we only active in the same,

11:05SPEAKERor am I active in all three of your Discords?

11:07SPEAKERI'm not active in the Nextlander one.

11:08SPEAKER- No, you're not, and I'm not active in Spy Pals,

11:11SPEAKERto be fair. - Okay, that's true.

11:13SPEAKER- I'm probably in like two dozen if I had to guess,

11:16SPEAKERlike eyeballing my folders here, how about you?

11:19SPEAKER- I had to remove some a few months ago

11:21SPEAKER'cause I was at the limit.

11:22SPEAKER- Wait, there's a limit?

11:24SPEAKER- It's like two, it was 200, I think.

11:25SPEAKER- What in the world are you in 200 Discords for?

11:30SPEAKERWhat's the- - Okay, so I'm friends

11:33SPEAKERwith a lot of streamers and there was a while there

11:35SPEAKERwhere I was playing a lot of games with different streamers

11:37SPEAKERand you always jump into somebody's Discord to do that

11:39SPEAKERand it's very rarely your own.

11:41SPEAKER- Fair, yes.

11:43SPEAKER- I back several Patreons.

11:46SPEAKER- Okay.

11:46SPEAKER- And those usually come with a Discord

11:48SPEAKERwhether I participate in it or not.

11:52SPEAKERI have some software tools that I use,

11:55SPEAKERlike bot stuff that I need occasional support with.

12:01SPEAKERThose are like, all of these are muted just to be clear,

12:03SPEAKERso I don't get any notifications or even like

12:05SPEAKERthe little circle.

12:06SPEAKER- I mean, I was gonna ask, there's no reason

12:07SPEAKERto leave a Discord, right?

12:08SPEAKERYou just mute it and put it in a folder

12:10SPEAKERand forget it exists.

12:11SPEAKER- Well, when you reach the, it's like,

12:12SPEAKERyo, you have too many Discords, you should leave some.

12:15SPEAKERThat's a reason.

12:17SPEAKERNow that you can turn off the ability to DM people

12:20SPEAKERfrom random Discords, like for a long time,

12:23SPEAKERbeing in a shared server was enough that anybody could DM you

12:26SPEAKERso then bot spammers would join a Discord

12:28SPEAKERand spam everybody on the list.

12:29SPEAKER- Oh, it's not still that way, did they disable that?

12:31SPEAKER- Yeah, so if you right click on any server

12:33SPEAKERand go to privacy settings,

12:35SPEAKERyou can check a box that says allow direct messages

12:38SPEAKERfrom server members off.

12:39SPEAKER- So it's opt in now.

12:40SPEAKER- It's opt, you set the setting on your profile

12:44SPEAKERfor new Discords, you have to turn it off for old Discords.

12:47SPEAKER- I see, I see, okay.

12:48SPEAKERInteresting, I didn't know they had done that.

12:50SPEAKER- It's the overall a good change.

12:52SPEAKER- It's probably a good change.

12:53SPEAKER- Yeah.

12:56SPEAKER- What's the weirdest Discord you're on?

12:58SPEAKER- Oh man.

12:59SPEAKER- One of the most random.

13:00SPEAKER- That's incriminating probably.

13:02SPEAKER- Oh, come on, liveable.

13:05SPEAKER- You're an internet figure, you don't have privacy anymore.

13:08SPEAKER- I am on a Discord for a conference that I went to

13:10SPEAKERlike five years ago with like 10 people maybe.

13:14SPEAKER- Like a one-off, oh yeah, sure, I'm on a few of those.

13:16SPEAKERLike, oh, the thing we made to facilitate

13:18SPEAKERlike an interview for a podcast or something.

13:21SPEAKER- Yeah, that was before I really,

13:22SPEAKERI think there was a period of time

13:24SPEAKERwhen I was making Discords as a kind of throwaway

13:27SPEAKERwithout realizing that I could just turn people's access

13:29SPEAKERon and off really easily and use the same one

13:31SPEAKERfor that kind of stuff.

13:32SPEAKER- Right.

13:34SPEAKER- I'm on the Discord for a virtual only art conference,

13:38SPEAKERart festival, online only.

13:41SPEAKER- All right.

13:42SPEAKER- I'm on a bunch of VR dev Discords

13:44SPEAKERfrom like early in the VR days

13:45SPEAKERwhen it's just a bunch of people bitching

13:47SPEAKERabout how bad the documentation was.

13:52SPEAKERYeah, I don't know.

13:54SPEAKER- I'm on, we'll see, I'm on the FreeBSD Discord.

13:56SPEAKERThey actually have one.

13:58SPEAKER- Wow.

13:58SPEAKER- Amazingly.

13:59SPEAKER- I'm on three different, I'm on a Discord for Liv,

14:03SPEAKERwhich is a tool that you can use to see Twitch chat

14:07SPEAKERand like PC stuff inside VR,

14:10SPEAKERlike mount it to the back of your controller

14:11SPEAKERso you can check chat and stuff like that

14:13SPEAKERwhen you're doing VR streaming.

14:14SPEAKER- Oh wow, that's neat.

14:16SPEAKERThat's super cool.

14:17SPEAKER- I'm on the Supergiant Games Discord.

14:19SPEAKERThat's not random, that's not an awesome one.

14:22SPEAKERI don't know.

14:23SPEAKERI'm on Valve Index developers.

14:25SPEAKER- I'm on one that I guess is now called Enhance Everything.

14:27SPEAKERIt used to be known as something like

14:29SPEAKERthe game upscaling Discord.

14:32SPEAKER'Cause I got kind of interested in machine learning

14:35SPEAKERdriven upscaling for a while.

14:38SPEAKERI got on there and realized how incredibly technical

14:40SPEAKEReverything was and how hard it was to get good results.

14:42SPEAKERAnd then I muted and yeah.

14:45SPEAKER- I'm on a Discord for a,

14:50SPEAKERa text generation machine learning tool

14:54SPEAKERthat you can like feed it a source sample

14:57SPEAKERand tell it what you want.

14:58SPEAKERAnd then it will generate like a novel length dissertation

15:02SPEAKERon the thing that you asked, the topic you asked.

15:06SPEAKERThat was less useful than I was expecting,

15:07SPEAKERI'm not gonna lie.

15:08SPEAKER- I can see that.

15:09SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm on the OBS Community Discord.

15:11SPEAKERThat one's pretty good.

15:12SPEAKER- Oh, I was on there.

15:14SPEAKERThat might be a rare example of a Discord

15:17SPEAKERthat I left actually.

15:19SPEAKER- Wow.

15:20SPEAKER- It was a little chaotic.

15:20SPEAKER- Shots fired.

15:21SPEAKER- It was a little chaotic.

15:23SPEAKER- It was an instant mute.

15:24SPEAKER- There's a lot going on on the OBS Discord, I can tell you.

15:27SPEAKER- It's a large user base and they are vocal.

15:29SPEAKER- They're, yes, they're very agitated.

15:32SPEAKERLarge.

15:33SPEAKER- You don't go to the OBS Discord

15:35SPEAKERif shit is going well for you with OBS is the thing.

15:38SPEAKER- Definitely not.

15:39SPEAKER- This is the problem with using a Discord only for support.

15:41SPEAKERLike, yes.

15:42SPEAKER- Yeah, I get.

15:43SPEAKERAlso, I mean, I think I've told the story before, right,

15:45SPEAKERof I went on there, I went on there

15:47SPEAKERand went and asked my question in the Linux channel

15:49SPEAKERbecause it was much less active than the Windows channel.

15:51SPEAKER- Oh boy.

15:52SPEAKER- And then they did the standard, you know, post your log.

15:55SPEAKER- Oh, wow.

15:56SPEAKER- And I was like, maybe they won't notice

15:58SPEAKERand I posted my log anyway.

16:00SPEAKER- Did they, they noticed.

16:01SPEAKER- And all I got back was, this is a Windows log,

16:04SPEAKERgo post your question in the Windows channel.

16:06SPEAKER- Get the fuck out.

16:07SPEAKER- We did my defense.

16:08SPEAKER- Did you think about trying to recreate your problem

16:09SPEAKERon Linux and then submit that log?

16:11SPEAKER- I should have, I should have just done, yes.

16:13SPEAKERIn my defense, my question was about like,

16:15SPEAKERhey, how is OBS passing these parameters to FFmpeg,

16:19SPEAKERwhich I know is what's running under the hood here.

16:21SPEAKERAnd I figured like, that's a pretty esoteric question.

16:23SPEAKERI bet the Linux people know more about that.

16:25SPEAKER- You had to, wait, you had to post your logs

16:27SPEAKERfor that question?

16:28SPEAKER- It's just standard.

16:29SPEAKERIt's like, like whenever you have any like total problem,

16:31SPEAKERI think that's just their standard responses,

16:33SPEAKERlike show us your log

16:34SPEAKERand then we'll see if we can help you.

16:36SPEAKER- It's very personal.

16:37SPEAKER- Yes, it is.

16:37SPEAKER- I don't like showing anybody my logs from an outcome.

16:39SPEAKERI like, if I have a technical support problem

16:41SPEAKERthat ends with me going to a website and saying,

16:43SPEAKERhey, post your logs, nine 99 times out of a hundred,

16:46SPEAKERI'm probably not going to do it.

16:49SPEAKER- Yeah.

16:49SPEAKER- I'll go try to figure it out on my own.

16:50SPEAKER- That's probably the safe approach, sure.

16:54SPEAKER- Keep Googling.

16:55SPEAKER- Okay, all right, speaking of Linux,

16:58SPEAKERquestion from MSC.

17:00SPEAKERWhat would happen if Rob Zachney ran Linux?

17:02SPEAKERI don't know, but I want to find out.

17:05SPEAKER- Like if Rob Zachney was in charge of Linux?

17:07SPEAKER- No, no, no.

17:08SPEAKER- Or if Rob Zachney switched to Linux.

17:10SPEAKER- No, no, I think this is a switch to Linux question.

17:12SPEAKERI don't know, but I absolutely want to find out.

17:14SPEAKERLike I'm desperate to get involved in this scenario now.

17:18SPEAKER- Rob has the beard to be a kernel maintainer

17:23SPEAKERas far as I'm concerned.

17:24SPEAKER- I think you're not wrong.

17:25SPEAKERI think, yes, yes.

17:28SPEAKER- He is the look of a man who is deep in the weeds on Linux.

17:32SPEAKER- Sure, I could see it.

17:34SPEAKER- I think--

17:34SPEAKER- Like a system D contributor or something.

17:37SPEAKER- Yeah, like, I don't know.

17:39SPEAKERI feel like he got real into those programming games

17:42SPEAKERthat are like programming--

17:44SPEAKER- That's possible.

17:45SPEAKER- TIS 100 or one of those, right?

17:47SPEAKER- I haven't heard, but I have absorbed through Osmosis

17:50SPEAKERsome of his recent adventures in high level audio,

17:53SPEAKERhome audio.

17:54SPEAKER- Those speakers are incredible.

17:56SPEAKERAnd his proclivity for mechanical keyboards.

17:59SPEAKERSo I think he is ready.

18:01SPEAKERI should, you know what?

18:02SPEAKERI don't know why, why did I ask this on here?

18:04SPEAKERI have a direct line to Rob Zachney.

18:06SPEAKERI can just ask him.

18:07SPEAKER- If only there was some way to find out.

18:09SPEAKERLike, look, I feel like there's probably a stream deck

18:11SPEAKERin his future.

18:12SPEAKER- Hang on, hang on.

18:13SPEAKER- Steam deck rather.

18:14SPEAKER- Stop the presses.

18:17SPEAKERI don't think Rob Zachney is a Linux user.

18:19SPEAKER- Why not?

18:20SPEAKER- I think he's a BSD user.

18:23SPEAKER- That's just mean.

18:26SPEAKER- I consider that a high compliment, to be clear.

18:33SPEAKERBut then again, I'm the kind of person you're biting.

18:35SPEAKERYou looked lost.

18:37SPEAKERWhat is?

18:38SPEAKER- I'm just thinking, I'm thinking about like,

18:41SPEAKERwhat his use case, like, I know,

18:43SPEAKERlike I know Rob mostly from his work.

18:45SPEAKERI like, we converse, but like.

18:47SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't, I don't know him super well.

18:49SPEAKERI just, I do know that he loves to go down deep rabbit holes

18:52SPEAKERabout technical things, which.

18:54SPEAKER- Yeah.

18:55SPEAKER- So do I, I get it.

18:57SPEAKER- Yeah.

18:58SPEAKER- That would be just to put my comment

18:59SPEAKERin a little more context.

19:00SPEAKERI was just last night reading an argument on a forum

19:04SPEAKERabout IF config, the net tools package being deprecated

19:08SPEAKERfrom a lot of modern Linux distros, such as Ubuntu.

19:12SPEAKER- Oh yeah, of course.

19:13SPEAKER- And some BSD fans who were like,

19:15SPEAKERIF configuring a network adapter hasn't changed in 40 years

19:18SPEAKERand neither has IF config.

19:19SPEAKERLike why the fuck would they get rid of that?

19:21SPEAKERLike, why would they, you get what I'm saying?

19:23SPEAKER- Yeah.

19:24SPEAKER- Like that's, that's the BSD crowd is like,

19:26SPEAKERHey, it's worked for 40 years.

19:27SPEAKERJust leave it alone.

19:30SPEAKER- I just, I just.

19:31SPEAKER- I kind of admire it.

19:33SPEAKER- Yeah, like I can respect that.

19:34SPEAKERLike if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

19:36SPEAKER- Yeah.

19:37SPEAKERYes.

19:38SPEAKEROkay.

19:39SPEAKERWe should, I should maybe,

19:40SPEAKERI should maybe hit up Rob and see what he thinks.

19:43SPEAKER- Yeah, we'll follow up next month and actually no,

19:46SPEAKERwe're probably never going to follow up again.

19:47SPEAKERSorry, I'm in advance.

19:49SPEAKER- Let's see here.

19:51SPEAKERQuestion from Bodysaurus.

19:55SPEAKERBoy, this is a cheery one.

19:56SPEAKER- Oh boy.

19:57SPEAKER- With the effects of climate change ramping up,

19:59SPEAKERI've been looking at getting solar panels,

20:01SPEAKERa built-in generator, and a large water tank

20:03SPEAKERwith a rain collection ability all installed in my house.

20:06SPEAKER- Is this a secret Vinnie letter?

20:07SPEAKER- What are you doing to stave off

20:09SPEAKERthe encroaching societal disruption

20:10SPEAKERdue to global climate change in action?

20:13SPEAKER- Hmm.

20:14SPEAKER- Well, I rent, so nothing proactively yet,

20:17SPEAKERbut I would be, I honestly, in all seriousness,

20:20SPEAKERI would be lying if every time I thought about moving

20:23SPEAKERto a given area, I didn't immediately consider like,

20:25SPEAKERwhat is the natural disaster likelihood?

20:30SPEAKER- It's both now and as things accelerate

20:33SPEAKERin this particular area.

20:34SPEAKER- Yeah, it's shaping our conversations

20:36SPEAKERabout where we want to move.

20:37SPEAKER- Like it's a serious actual consideration, right?

20:40SPEAKER- The real TLDR is that the famine will affect us all.

20:43SPEAKER- No, sure, yes, absolutely.

20:45SPEAKER- Yeah.

20:47SPEAKER- This is fun.

20:48SPEAKER- This is a great question.

20:49SPEAKER- I mean, as a homeowner, are you, I mean, like I, look,

20:52SPEAKERwe did a whole episode about disaster preparedness.

20:54SPEAKERI don't think, I don't think what they're proposing here

20:56SPEAKERis like out of line necessarily.

20:58SPEAKER- No, I don't think it is either.

21:00SPEAKER- Solar panels and the generator like are totally sensible.

21:02SPEAKERLike the rainwater collection is like maybe

21:05SPEAKERa little bit next level paranoid for me right now,

21:07SPEAKERbut at the same time, like joke's on me in 10 years, right?

21:11SPEAKER- Well, the rainwater collection is useful where we live

21:13SPEAKERbecause we get a lot of rain at one time of year

21:15SPEAKERand we'd get no rain for nine months a year.

21:18SPEAKER- Yes.

21:19SPEAKER- And if you want to do things like water your garden,

21:21SPEAKERthen a rainwater collection system is not a terrible idea

21:25SPEAKERbecause it lowers the impact of that.

21:27SPEAKERThe other thing you can do is like recapture gray water

21:32SPEAKERout of like your kitchen sink and use soap

21:34SPEAKERthat's not gonna kill your plant,

21:35SPEAKERuse soap instead of detergents, you won't kill the plants.

21:38SPEAKER- To keep it viable, you mean, or?

21:41SPEAKER- Yeah, and you use that type of water to water.

21:45SPEAKERYou, there's things you, I don't know the,

21:47SPEAKERI haven't looked at the process, but I know that you can,

21:49SPEAKERyou can do like gray water collection

21:51SPEAKERand then use that to water your plants,

21:54SPEAKERyour garden and stuff like that if you treat it lightly.

21:57SPEAKER- You're talking about the soap you used in the kitchen.

21:59SPEAKERI was conflating what you were talking about

22:00SPEAKERwith the question I was going to ask,

22:02SPEAKERwhich is if you're collecting water at one time of year

22:04SPEAKERand then it's not gonna rain again for another nine months,

22:06SPEAKERhow long, A, how long is that supply gonna last?

22:09SPEAKERAnd B, how long before it goes too stagnant to,

22:12SPEAKERokay, nevermind, you're shrugging largely.

22:15SPEAKER- Here's the thing, you're gonna have to cover it,

22:17SPEAKERone, or else it'll all evaporate.

22:19SPEAKER- Right.

22:20SPEAKER- So, and then beyond that, I don't have any idea.

22:22SPEAKERI assume that you have to put something in it

22:24SPEAKERto keep it from getting gross.

22:25SPEAKER- That was my question.

22:26SPEAKERThat's what I, where I thought the soap came in

22:27SPEAKERwas that I thought it could stagnate too much.

22:30SPEAKER- No, no, no, I'm talking about like taking the runoff water

22:32SPEAKERthat you use for like dishwashing and stuff like that,

22:36SPEAKERnot the poop water, but all the other water.

22:39SPEAKERAnd the amount of water we waste in that context

22:42SPEAKERis pretty substantial.

22:43SPEAKERLike one of the things that I've seen people advocate

22:46SPEAKERis using the gray water runoff from like kitchens

22:50SPEAKERand stuff like that to flush toilets and things like that.

22:52SPEAKER'Cause we're already, like, we don't need to,

22:54SPEAKERlike the fact that we flush toilets with potable water

22:56SPEAKERis kind of-

22:58SPEAKER- A bit wasteful.

22:59SPEAKER- It's, yeah.

23:01SPEAKER- Or, you know, excessive.

23:02SPEAKER- We're sending out the good with the bad.

23:04SPEAKER- Not exactly necessary.

23:05SPEAKER- Yeah, I would say.

23:07SPEAKER- Let's see, question from doomed somehow.

23:11SPEAKERHave you ever been drinking too much

23:14SPEAKERand purchased a domain name for literally no reason

23:17SPEAKERand with no plans to use it for anything constructive?

23:19SPEAKERIf so, what became of it?

23:21SPEAKER- Hey guys, I want to put up a Mastodon instance

23:24SPEAKERand I need a domain.

23:26SPEAKERWhat about content.town?

23:28SPEAKERYeah, that's real funny, I'll do that one.

23:30SPEAKER- You guys, it's gonna be so fun.

23:32SPEAKER- Yeah, we're gonna Mastodon, fuck Twitter.

23:34SPEAKERWe're gonna Mastodon the shit out of this.

23:36SPEAKERAnd that was like four years ago.

23:37SPEAKER- Yes.

23:38SPEAKERWait, were you actually drinking?

23:40SPEAKER- Look, let's say I was drinking.

23:42SPEAKER- Okay.

23:43SPEAKER- I've never.

23:44SPEAKER- Wow, really?

23:45SPEAKER- Lightly impaired I would say is the mindset.

23:48SPEAKER- I'd say you got to loosen things up a little bit, right?

23:51SPEAKERLike you've got to liver up the mind

23:53SPEAKERbefore you come up with something

23:54SPEAKERas groundbreaking as content.town.

23:57SPEAKER- Yeah, like once we discovered

24:00SPEAKERthat you could get cheap domains,

24:01SPEAKERI remember after happy hours,

24:02SPEAKERthere was a period of time in the whiskey basement

24:05SPEAKERwhen we would go looking for stupid domain names.

24:07SPEAKER- Yes, like buying stupid domains

24:09SPEAKERwas like a very long time Jeff and Ryan joke thing

24:14SPEAKERthat I don't know why I didn't,

24:15SPEAKERlike I always thought it was amusing,

24:17SPEAKERbut I never actually bought my own

24:18SPEAKERuntil the last two, three years.

24:20SPEAKER- Well, it used to be kind of expensive.

24:23SPEAKERLike there was a period of time

24:24SPEAKERwhen I looked up willsmith.com on network solutions

24:27SPEAKERwhen that was the only place you could buy domain names.

24:29SPEAKERIt was like 70 bucks a year or something.

24:31SPEAKERLike it was a lot of money.

24:32SPEAKER- That's harsh.

24:33SPEAKER- Yeah.

24:34SPEAKER- Like I've seen some,

24:35SPEAKERI have one domain that I paid kind of a lot upfront for.

24:38SPEAKER- Yeah.

24:39SPEAKER- Like very low three figures, but once, not a year.

24:43SPEAKERThat's the one time like whoever controls this domain

24:47SPEAKERis gouging the world. - Controls the world, yeah.

24:49SPEAKER- Right, is gouging the prices.

24:50SPEAKERBut once you pay that fee,

24:51SPEAKERthen the renewal is like 20 bucks a year and it's not.

24:54SPEAKERAnd I also have a bunch of domains

24:55SPEAKERthat I paid absolutely nothing for

24:57SPEAKERand continue to pay nothing for that are amazing.

25:01SPEAKERShould I say what they are?

25:02SPEAKER- I know you got them locked down pretty good.

25:04SPEAKER- They're not doing anything.

25:05SPEAKER- Okay, let's have it.

25:06SPEAKER- None of them are, hang on,

25:08SPEAKERI'm trying to pull up a list here.

25:11SPEAKERNone of them are hooked up to anything,

25:12SPEAKERso it doesn't really matter.

25:15SPEAKERAlso, I really like my registrar there.

25:18SPEAKERPretty cool.

25:20SPEAKERemm386.com.

25:22SPEAKER- That's real good.

25:23SPEAKER- Right?

25:24SPEAKER- Like be better if it was .sys, you think?

25:27SPEAKER- I don't know.

25:28SPEAKERI mean, look, call me old fashioned,

25:30SPEAKERbut there's something about a .com

25:32SPEAKERthat is the top level domain of record.

25:34SPEAKER- Well, I'm just saying the file name

25:35SPEAKERwas emm386.sys, wasn't it?

25:37SPEAKER- God, right.

25:38SPEAKERI didn't even think about that.

25:39SPEAKERI wish I could get that to you before this broadcast.

25:40SPEAKER- I don't think there is a .sys, is there?

25:41SPEAKER- Is there not?

25:43SPEAKERHang on, .sys top level domain.

25:48SPEAKERI think you might be right.

25:50SPEAKERI think you might be right.

25:53SPEAKERAre you checking as well?

25:54SPEAKER- I'm typing it in right now, it's who cares?

25:56SPEAKERSorry, we don't currently offer .sys domains.

25:58SPEAKER- Oh man, there's a .systems,

25:59SPEAKERbut that's not the same thing.

26:00SPEAKER- That's not, nope, that's not it.

26:02SPEAKER- Well, hey, I'll just have to watch that like a hawk

26:03SPEAKERfor if that ever gets rolled out.

26:05SPEAKER- Yeah, put your Google alerts on today.

26:07SPEAKER- That one, if and when I get to the point

26:09SPEAKERwhere I have like a personal website

26:10SPEAKERand a personal email address,

26:13SPEAKERthat's gonna be my domain.

26:14SPEAKERThat's gonna be one.

26:15SPEAKER- That's a pretty amazing domain.

26:16SPEAKER- I'm pretty happy with it.

26:17SPEAKERI also got vidribbon.com.

26:20SPEAKER- Vib ribbon?

26:21SPEAKER- Vid ribbon.

26:22SPEAKER- Oh, wow.

26:23SPEAKER- Vid ribbon was a rejected Nextlander name.

26:27SPEAKER- I kind of want, I want electroplankton.com.

26:31SPEAKER- That might be tough to come by.

26:33SPEAKER- I feel like, I mean, it's a languishing title, but.

26:36SPEAKER- Either Nintendo has that or somebody else thought of that

26:38SPEAKERand went and got it.

26:40SPEAKERActually, it's loading to a white page with nothing.

26:44SPEAKERIs it, does that result in anything?

26:48SPEAKEROh man, I'm doing a DNS lookup on the web.

26:50SPEAKERWhat is wrong with me?

26:51SPEAKERI've got this terminal right here.

26:52SPEAKER- Wow.

26:53SPEAKER- I'm such a bad nerd.

26:55SPEAKER- I get electroplankton.org for 13.99.

26:58SPEAKER- Ooh, that is almost better.

27:00SPEAKER.orgs are cool.

27:02SPEAKER- I like a .org.

27:04SPEAKERI own noodleafficionado.com.

27:08SPEAKER- Wow, that's a long one.

27:09SPEAKER- Well, I was, I like noodles.

27:11SPEAKERI thought it would be funny to make a site

27:13SPEAKERthat's as serious as Cigar Aficionado, but about noodles.

27:16SPEAKER- Sure.

27:16SPEAKER- Like you got spaghetti, you got your linguine,

27:18SPEAKERyou got your ramen, you got your pho.

27:20SPEAKERThere's a bazillion different kinds of noodles.

27:22SPEAKER- Yeah, and also like the, there are so many differents.

27:27SPEAKERWhat was the word I'm looking for?

27:28SPEAKERIngredients, I guess.

27:29SPEAKERLike the, yeah, the ingredients that constitute the noodles

27:32SPEAKERare so multifarious these days.

27:34SPEAKER- You could do a whole feature spread on buckwheat.

27:36SPEAKER- It's like, it's like USB except food, you know,

27:38SPEAKERwhere it's like there's a physical form factor

27:40SPEAKERand then there is the content of the noodle

27:41SPEAKERand those two things are orthogonal to each other.

27:44SPEAKER- Look, one day noodleafficionado.com will,

27:47SPEAKERhonestly, I bought that drinking at OrdCamp, I think.

27:50SPEAKERAnd when I was talking to somebody else, I was like,

27:52SPEAKERyou know what should exist?

27:53SPEAKERNoodle Aficionado.

27:54SPEAKER- Fair.

27:55SPEAKER- And they were like, yes, this is a brilliant idea.

27:56SPEAKERAnd literally I've not thought about it

27:58SPEAKERand I've been paying for it for like eight years

27:59SPEAKERat this point.

28:00SPEAKER- We had some chickpea noodles last night.

28:02SPEAKER- Ooh, how were they?

28:03SPEAKER- They were pretty good, grainy, I guess.

28:05SPEAKERProtein heavy.

28:06SPEAKER- I've never really met a noodle I don't like, I think.

28:08SPEAKER- Yeah, just about anything that can cohere into noodle form

28:12SPEAKERis probably worth eating as a noodle.

28:14SPEAKER- You know what can get wrecked though?

28:15SPEAKERZoodles.

28:16SPEAKERI don't like them.

28:17SPEAKER- Oh, really?

28:17SPEAKER- No.

28:18SPEAKER- I don't mind a zoodle.

28:19SPEAKER- They're fine.

28:20SPEAKERI'm just, I was just trying to be inflammatory.

28:22SPEAKER- I wouldn't, I wouldn't take a zoodle over a noodle, but.

28:24SPEAKER- Yeah, no, it's like a pale shadow of the delight

28:28SPEAKERthat is a noodle.

28:29SPEAKERIf you're trying to be healthy.

28:30SPEAKERMy favorite domain, I don't know if I've said

28:32SPEAKERthis one before, mydragula.com.

28:35SPEAKER- You own mydragula.com?

28:37SPEAKER- I own mydragula.com.

28:41SPEAKER- Can I confess something about My Dragula?

28:43SPEAKER- Sure.

28:45SPEAKER- I didn't realize for years, like until maybe

28:50SPEAKERthat Matrix 4 was announced,

28:53SPEAKERthat the song from the club baseline song.

28:56SPEAKER- It's the first five minutes of the movie.

28:58SPEAKER- I did not realize that that was the Dragula song

29:00SPEAKERuntil maybe last year.

29:01SPEAKER- That is absolutely Dragula.

29:03SPEAKERI still haven't seen Matrix 4.

29:04SPEAKER- It's fine.

29:06SPEAKER- So I hear, I should get around to that.

29:08SPEAKER- It's, it's a tough act to follow.

29:12SPEAKER- I'm, of course, yes.

29:13SPEAKERI'm already drawing conclusions about it

29:14SPEAKERbased on what you're saying right now,

29:16SPEAKERwhich is that like, I must've talked about this

29:18SPEAKERon some podcast or other.

29:19SPEAKERIs it essentially the Terminator Genesis treatment

29:22SPEAKERfor the Matrix?

29:23SPEAKER- Which one was Terminator Genesis?

29:25SPEAKER- It's the one where they go back to 1984,

29:27SPEAKERbut like they witnessed the events

29:29SPEAKERof the original Terminator movie externally,

29:31SPEAKERlike as third parties and then interfere with them.

29:33SPEAKER- Not that one.

29:34SPEAKER- Not that?

29:35SPEAKER- Nope.

29:36SPEAKER- Interesting.

29:36SPEAKER- It's better than that.

29:37SPEAKER- Okay, that's good.

29:38SPEAKER- Like I was not displeased by it,

29:39SPEAKERbut I also haven't, like,

29:41SPEAKERdo you remember when the Matrix came out on DVD

29:43SPEAKERor Blu-ray or whatever, DVD, and you were like,

29:45SPEAKERyou know, watch this, you watch it like 15 times.

29:47SPEAKER- Oh my God, it was the premiere demo Blu-ray.

29:49SPEAKERLike once, there we go, sorry, DVD.

29:51SPEAKER- DVD.

29:52SPEAKER- It was the premiere like DVD to demo your new DVD player.

29:55SPEAKERIt was like, oh my God, I can't believe this is at home.

29:58SPEAKER- But also like I was watching it

29:59SPEAKERand like deconstructing scenes

30:01SPEAKERand seeing where they foreshadowed stuff

30:03SPEAKERand like just taking apart every single part of that movie

30:06SPEAKERto, 'cause I wanted to understand how,

30:08SPEAKERwhy it worked so well.

30:10SPEAKERAnd no compunction to do that with the fourth one,

30:13SPEAKERbut it was fine.

30:13SPEAKER- Okay, okay, good to know.

30:15SPEAKER- It's not thought provoking.

30:16SPEAKERIt's just a fine, it is an okay Matrix.

30:19SPEAKERIt is better than the other two Matrix sequels.

30:21SPEAKER- Okay, that's perhaps not a hard achievement to attain,

30:26SPEAKERbut you know.

30:27SPEAKER- You know what?

30:28SPEAKERI stand by the statement that I have said for a long time,

30:32SPEAKERwhich is the second and third Matrix movies

30:35SPEAKERwhere it cut into one movie would be a fantastic film.

30:38SPEAKER- I think I could see that, sure.

30:40SPEAKER- Like there are some really good action set pieces.

30:42SPEAKERThere's a good story.

30:43SPEAKERThere's just a bunch of nonsense filler and bullshit

30:45SPEAKERin those movies to make them four hours

30:47SPEAKERthat made them hard to watch.

30:49SPEAKER- There's some incredibly memorable stuff in the second one.

30:51SPEAKERI remember basically nothing of the third one.

30:55SPEAKER- The third one all happens in the real world

30:56SPEAKERand it turns out nobody really gives a shit

30:58SPEAKERabout the real world.

30:59SPEAKER- Right, yes, no wonder I don't remember it.

31:02SPEAKER- It does have the world's least thoughtfully designed mecca

31:06SPEAKERwhere you put the soft meaty bits out front

31:08SPEAKERwhere the stabby murder machines can get to them easier.

31:12SPEAKER- It looks cool though.

31:13SPEAKER- They do look cool.

31:16SPEAKER- Question from Doc Paradox.

31:19SPEAKERWhich would you rather have?

31:21SPEAKERThis is a slightly wordy question,

31:23SPEAKERbut I think you'll follow.

31:24SPEAKERWhich would you rather have?

31:25SPEAKERAs many vehicles as possible

31:27SPEAKERusing something other than fossil fuels

31:29SPEAKERsuch as hydrogen, electric, et cetera,

31:31SPEAKERor useful alternative transit methods

31:34SPEAKERsuch as trains, buses, bike paths, and walking, et cetera.

31:38SPEAKERIs this a why not both situation?

31:41SPEAKERRelated, have you watched City Beautiful

31:42SPEAKERor Not Just Bikes on YouTube?

31:44SPEAKERBoth of those channels have opened my eyes

31:46SPEAKERto how the suburban sprawl in America sucks.

31:50SPEAKERThe question is just would you rather have

31:54SPEAKERas way more cars out there not burning gas

31:58SPEAKERor would you rather have way more public transit essentially

32:01SPEAKERand human powered transit?

32:03SPEAKER- I don't think that most of America is built in a way

32:06SPEAKERthat way more vehicles not burning gas.

32:09SPEAKER- Those are kind of solutions

32:10SPEAKERfor different geographical areas, right?

32:13SPEAKER- Yeah.

32:13SPEAKER- Like you have to have cars in big parts of this country

32:16SPEAKERat least unfortunately.

32:16SPEAKERIt's less of a problem in countries

32:19SPEAKERwith a lot less sprawl.

32:22SPEAKER- Yeah.

32:23SPEAKER- Well, it's interesting though

32:24SPEAKER'cause I had a conversation with my mom

32:26SPEAKERwho grew up in D.C., in Washington, D.C.,

32:30SPEAKERa long time ago, like 15 years ago now,

32:32SPEAKERand my grandmother, but she was still alive,

32:34SPEAKERabout what it was like in the 40s and 50s

32:38SPEAKERbefore the suburbs really,

32:39SPEAKERlike the suburbs were a post-war invention

32:42SPEAKERin the U.S. for the most part.

32:45SPEAKERAnd it's fascinating because like you didn't have,

32:50SPEAKERyou wouldn't have had an hour long commute in 1950

32:53SPEAKERbecause the cars weren't reliable enough

32:55SPEAKERto do that every day.

32:56SPEAKERThe trains didn't exist.

32:58SPEAKERSo you lived close, you chose,

33:00SPEAKERand with one person working in the household,

33:03SPEAKERyou generally chose to live close to where your job was

33:05SPEAKERor you looked for jobs close to where you lived.

33:09SPEAKERAnd yeah, I would advise anybody who has the option

33:13SPEAKERto talk to their parents or grandparents

33:14SPEAKERif they're still around about this

33:16SPEAKERand hear stories about what it was like before

33:19SPEAKERin the before times.

33:20SPEAKER- Right.

33:22SPEAKER- I've been looking at- - Going to town was,

33:24SPEAKERgoing to town was like a once a week affair.

33:27SPEAKER- Well, if you lived in a rural place, yeah.

33:28SPEAKER- Right, yeah, that's what I mean.

33:31SPEAKER- I would love to hear,

33:32SPEAKERI would love to hear people's stories

33:33SPEAKERthat they get from this.

33:34SPEAKERLike if you talk to your folks or your grandparents.

33:36SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a good idea.

33:38SPEAKER- I'm really, so we have an electric car.

33:40SPEAKERI am smitten with the electric car.

33:42SPEAKERWe took it to Tahoe last month or last, yeah,

33:45SPEAKERlast month now.

33:47SPEAKERIt's great, highly recommended.

33:49SPEAKERIt's not for everyone.

33:50SPEAKERIf you drive 200 miles a day,

33:52SPEAKERit's probably not gonna be fantastic for you,

33:54SPEAKERbut it works really well for us.

33:57SPEAKERI'm super interested in electric bikes,

34:00SPEAKERespecially like electric cargo bikes

34:02SPEAKERor e-bikes that are assistive with like,

34:06SPEAKERyou can get an e-bike now for a fairly reasonable price

34:10SPEAKERthat has like a 40 or 50 mile range

34:13SPEAKERso that you can carry 50 or 100 pounds of cargo on it.

34:15SPEAKERSo you can go to the grocery store,

34:16SPEAKERload up a cargo rack and saddlebags

34:18SPEAKERand like do your grocery shopping on the bicycle.

34:21SPEAKER- Man, that's kind of appealing.

34:22SPEAKER- Yeah, and like, that would,

34:27SPEAKERas somebody who lived in a city

34:28SPEAKERthat has bad public transit for a long time,

34:31SPEAKER'cause like San Francisco's buses,

34:33SPEAKERlike the way, if you're served by the train,

34:35SPEAKERyou have a wildly different public transit experience

34:36SPEAKERthan if you're served by the buses.

34:38SPEAKERAnd yes, like, yeah.

34:41SPEAKER- Speaking as someone who used to live on the M line.

34:44SPEAKER- Yeah.

34:45SPEAKER- And now only lives on bus lines, you are extremely right.

34:48SPEAKER- Gina, my partner used to work at UC,

34:53SPEAKERISF met one of the campuses,

34:55SPEAKERthe one up on California at Masonic,

34:59SPEAKERwhich is like, I don't know,

35:01SPEAKERit's kind of like the Northwest quadrant of the city.

35:04SPEAKERShe lived three miles, I think, from our apartment by air.

35:08SPEAKERIt was like a four and a half mile drive

35:10SPEAKERbecause of the way the city grid works.

35:12SPEAKERAnd the bus ride was almost an hour and a half.

35:14SPEAKER- Yeah, yes.

35:15SPEAKER- So she literally could start out, and not jog,

35:18SPEAKERwalk back from that office to our apartment

35:23SPEAKERif the weather was cooperative.

35:25SPEAKER- Faster.

35:26SPEAKER- And arrive 10, 15 minutes before the bus got there.

35:29SPEAKERWalking.

35:30SPEAKER- I believe it.

35:31SPEAKER- Yeah.

35:31SPEAKER- I believe it.

35:32SPEAKER- An e-bike sounds amazing in that context.

35:34SPEAKER- Sure, yes, it's not perfect.

35:36SPEAKERMy utopian pie in the sky,

35:39SPEAKERall things being equal answer to this

35:40SPEAKERis I'd love mass transit.

35:42SPEAKERLike more, as troublesome as the bus can be,

35:46SPEAKERas you're describing,

35:47SPEAKERlike a perfect implementation of more trains and buses

35:50SPEAKERand bikes and stuff.

35:51SPEAKERLike I love not driving.

35:53SPEAKERAnd again, if you're in a rural area,

35:55SPEAKERthis is just flat out not an option.

35:57SPEAKERBut if you're in a dense urban area,

35:59SPEAKERlike I love not having to have a car.

36:00SPEAKERI love walking to things.

36:02SPEAKERI love like just hopping on like a nice train

36:04SPEAKERand riding 20 minutes and getting somewhere, you know?

36:07SPEAKERI love, like, but I also love libraries, you know?

36:10SPEAKERLike I love, I just kind of love the idea

36:12SPEAKERof like the urban common good.

36:14SPEAKERAnd I really wish that there were more communities

36:16SPEAKERbuilt around that idea and funded appropriately.

36:19SPEAKERBut yeah.

36:20SPEAKER- I think bikes,

36:21SPEAKERI also think there's a safety thing with bikes.

36:24SPEAKER'Cause I think bikes are,

36:26SPEAKERlike riding in San Francisco,

36:27SPEAKERriding a bike in San Francisco is terrifying.

36:29SPEAKER- Well, you tell me,

36:30SPEAKERbut my impression is that that's really just due

36:33SPEAKERto the intermingling of bikes and cars.

36:34SPEAKERLike if there were no cars around,

36:36SPEAKERit would probably not be that big of a deal.

36:38SPEAKER- Look, if there were no cars around,

36:39SPEAKERthe buses would be more reliable and faster.

36:41SPEAKERIf there were no cars around, the bikes would be safer.

36:44SPEAKERThe pedestrians would be safer.

36:45SPEAKER- Yeah, they'd be running a lot more trains.

36:47SPEAKERThey'd be building more train lines, yes.

36:48SPEAKER- Look, yeah, adding more public transit

36:51SPEAKERwithout dealing with the car situation

36:52SPEAKERis kind of like trying to solve the gun violence

36:54SPEAKERin schools problem by making kids wear clear backpacks.

36:57SPEAKER- Yes, no, I mean, there's a reason I called it utopian.

36:59SPEAKER- Yeah.

37:00SPEAKER- But anyway, trains are cool.

37:02SPEAKERBikes are cool.

37:03SPEAKER- Walking trains.

37:04SPEAKER- I like, man, there's nothing I love more

37:06SPEAKERthan just walking to the grocery store

37:07SPEAKERand then walking to the library and then walking home.

37:09SPEAKER- Honestly, I really enjoyed even riding

37:11SPEAKERthat stupid electric unicycle that I tested out

37:13SPEAKERwhen I was attested.

37:15SPEAKER- Electric unicycle.

37:16SPEAKER- It was like a self-balancing electric unicycle.

37:18SPEAKERSo it's basically like a Segway, but only one wheel.

37:21SPEAKER- Interesting.

37:22SPEAKER- And it was like, it was very satisfying.

37:25SPEAKERFelt that it was fun.

37:26SPEAKER- Was it foolproof?

37:27SPEAKERDid you ever fall off?

37:28SPEAKER- Oh, you could totally eat shit on that thing.

37:29SPEAKERLike crazy, are you kidding?

37:31SPEAKER- Yikes.

37:32SPEAKERWell, okay.

37:34SPEAKERMan, okay.

37:35SPEAKERFishy J is the MVP this month with two questions read.

37:38SPEAKER- Wow.

37:40SPEAKERRectangle desk or L-shaped desk?

37:42SPEAKERIf L-shaped desk, where would you place your screens?

37:45SPEAKER- Never in the corner.

37:47SPEAKER- Yes, I hate sitting in the bend of an L-shaped desk.

37:51SPEAKERI can't stand, that was the standard

37:53SPEAKERat like CNET and CBS in that building.

37:56SPEAKER- Future did the same thing.

37:57SPEAKER- I literally ripped the connector off of the joint there

38:01SPEAKERand threw it on the trash, but I moved my monitor.

38:04SPEAKERSo I was sitting perpendicular with a desk surface

38:06SPEAKERbecause I cannot stand sitting in those nooks.

38:09SPEAKER- No, it's all, you end up with a way,

38:11SPEAKERlike your neck is always jacked up

38:12SPEAKERand your arms are never at the right height.

38:15SPEAKERI'm a straight desk.

38:17SPEAKERI had an opportunity to get an L desk

38:18SPEAKERand I just went with a straight desk.

38:19SPEAKER- Really?

38:20SPEAKER- Yeah.

38:21SPEAKER- Interesting.

38:22SPEAKERI only have room for one desk.

38:22SPEAKERI would love to have an L.

38:24SPEAKER- I have to minimize surface area or else I tend to pile.

38:27SPEAKER- Yeah, you do have that issue.

38:28SPEAKER- I have a, in fact, actually I'm looking around right now

38:30SPEAKERand like this weekend is a desk cleaning weekend for me.

38:34SPEAKER- Yeah.

38:34SPEAKERWell, I'm obsessively tidy about my desk,

38:36SPEAKERso I would love to.

38:37SPEAKER- Well, la dee da.

38:38SPEAKER- I mean, it would be great to have like a TV in here

38:40SPEAKERfor game capture type stuff.

38:42SPEAKERBut I would not have one L shaped desk though.

38:46SPEAKERLike that seems too unwieldy or cumbersome.

38:47SPEAKERI would just have two straight desks

38:49SPEAKERthat you could arrange into an L of your choosing.

38:53SPEAKERThat's what I would do.

38:54SPEAKER- My dream is to have a couch and a TV in here at some point.

38:57SPEAKERMan, that's like full on office, like Mad Men style,

39:01SPEAKERhaving a couch in there.

39:02SPEAKERWon't you get a little decanter while you're at it?

39:04SPEAKER- Well, look, I'm not asking for a booze cart.

39:06SPEAKERI'm just saying like, it would be nice to be able to,

39:09SPEAKERlike I often have to do work that involves reading

39:11SPEAKERor like lean backwards that I don't have to do

39:13SPEAKERin an office chair.

39:14SPEAKER- Yes, that makes sense.

39:15SPEAKER- I can change a venue.

39:17SPEAKER- I think a lot, so my desk,

39:19SPEAKERI'm not gonna say how old my desk is, but it's very old.

39:22SPEAKER- I got rid of a 22 year old desk, a 24 year old desk.

39:25SPEAKER- It's not nearly that old.

39:26SPEAKERI know I've said this on many podcasts.

39:28SPEAKERThis desk came from Double Fine.

39:30SPEAKER- Really?

39:31SPEAKER- In the Psychonauts 1 era,

39:32SPEAKERthey were still working on Psychonauts 1

39:33SPEAKERwhen I obtained this desk from Double Fine.

39:36SPEAKER- Does it have like, is it Tim's desk?

39:39SPEAKER- I highly, I would guess that Tim rated a better desk

39:42SPEAKERthan this, but I don't know.

39:43SPEAKER- I don't know.

39:44SPEAKERIt's one of the things I like about like San Francisco

39:46SPEAKERslash Bay Area companies is like,

39:48SPEAKERyou don't have a lot of executive desks in most companies.

39:52SPEAKER- Also at that time, their office was a parking garage.

39:56SPEAKERLike literal part, like they literally,

39:58SPEAKERif I remember they were actually set up

40:00SPEAKERwith a bunch of desks in a parking garage.

40:02SPEAKER- Like open to the elements?

40:05SPEAKER- I'm not entirely sure.

40:06SPEAKERI don't remember.

40:07SPEAKER- I never heard that, that's crazy.

40:09SPEAKER- It was long enough ago

40:10SPEAKERthat the memory is getting a little fuzzy, but anyway.

40:13SPEAKER- Possibly apocryphal Double Fine stories.

40:16SPEAKERThat's what we're here for.

40:17SPEAKER- When I moved, this desk is not coming with me,

40:19SPEAKERbut I was gonna say like, I think a fair amount

40:21SPEAKERabout what kind of desks I would get.

40:23SPEAKERAnd I just keep coming back to the,

40:26SPEAKERI wanna know if this is too cliched,

40:27SPEAKERlike the straight up Ikea butcher block countertop

40:30SPEAKERwith adjustable legs.

40:32SPEAKERSo is there anything wrong with that?

40:34SPEAKER- But like, you mean like a sit stand?

40:36SPEAKER- No, this would probably just be sitting only.

40:38SPEAKERI mean, you would need like motorized, whatever to,

40:40SPEAKERI guess you could, you could.

40:41SPEAKERYeah, there are like aftermarket.

40:44SPEAKER- You can just buy the Ikea legs in the top separately,

40:46SPEAKERput whatever you top you want on them

40:47SPEAKERif you're going that route.

40:49SPEAKER- Right.

40:50SPEAKERI'm just, maybe you're not familiar with these.

40:52SPEAKERLike they're all over Reddit.

40:53SPEAKERYou know, if you look at like the battle stations subreddit,

40:55SPEAKERlike I just, I don't know if that's too cliche or not,

40:57SPEAKERbut it's just so, it's simple and clean looking.

41:01SPEAKER- So I just replaced the desk, my desk and full disclosure,

41:06SPEAKERI do for, as my stream stuff,

41:08SPEAKERI have a relationship with Steelcase,

41:13SPEAKERmakers of fine chairs and desks.

41:15SPEAKERAnd they were like, "Hey, do you want a standing desk?"

41:18SPEAKERAnd I said, "Yes, I would like a standing desk."

41:24SPEAKERHonestly, because I was looking for standing.

41:26SPEAKERI happened to be looking for new desks at the time

41:28SPEAKERand I wanted something that would sit stand

41:30SPEAKER'cause between like day job and podcast and streaming

41:33SPEAKERand playing video games when I want to play video games,

41:36SPEAKERI'm sometimes in here for an obscene number of hours

41:38SPEAKERevery day and I wanted to be able to stand some.

41:41SPEAKERAnd it is, if you spend in a world where we're working

41:45SPEAKERfrom home and like there's no time to go sit in the car

41:49SPEAKERand drive someplace else or walk on our commute

41:50SPEAKERor something like that, it is awesome to stand up.

41:53SPEAKERI've been standing up for the last two podcasts we recorded

41:55SPEAKERand it's been very good for me.

41:57SPEAKER- I can see that.

41:58SPEAKERThe Rich Gallop.

41:59SPEAKER- Yeah, but I also like to sit too is the thing.

42:03SPEAKER- Fair.

42:03SPEAKER- Like I don't want to stand the whole time.

42:06SPEAKER- He only stood.

42:07SPEAKER- Yeah, that's, I mean, look,

42:09SPEAKERRich is a skinnier man than me, so.

42:13SPEAKER- Okay, a couple more questions here.

42:16SPEAKER- Let's turn them into A's.

42:18SPEAKER- Question from cbirdsong, this is a weird one.

42:22SPEAKERI have a USB-C LG monitor and when I use it

42:26SPEAKERwith my MacBook Pro, a device called LG monitor controls

42:30SPEAKERappears in the network preferences pane.

42:32SPEAKER- Okay.

42:33SPEAKER- Once selected, it presents the options you'd expect to see

42:35SPEAKERfor a dial-up modem.

42:38SPEAKERDo you have any idea why this would be the case?

42:40SPEAKERAdditionally, is there a way I can make a phone call

42:43SPEAKERinto my monitor and I don't know,

42:45SPEAKERadjust the brightness or something?

42:46SPEAKER- It's probably a serial connection across that display port

42:49SPEAKERby the USB-C bus, right?

42:52SPEAKERI was baffled by this, I would accept that as an answer.

42:56SPEAKERSure, that sounds plausible.

42:57SPEAKER- I don't have any idea.

42:58SPEAKERHad I done my homework and read this in advance,

43:00SPEAKERI probably could have looked it up and found out.

43:02SPEAKER- Is that the protocol you think display port

43:05SPEAKERis probably what's going over USB-C these days?

43:08SPEAKERI don't know, actually.

43:09SPEAKERI don't know what the display standard is.

43:10SPEAKER- 'Cause on a Mac, if it's USB-C,

43:12SPEAKERit could be light Thunderbolt.

43:15SPEAKER- Is Thunderbolt a display standard, though?

43:17SPEAKER- Thunderbolt can be a display standard,

43:18SPEAKERbut I think at that point, it's just a container

43:21SPEAKERfor display port, it's like a pipe,

43:25SPEAKERit's a hardware layer for the software spec.

43:29SPEAKERSome of that stuff's weird, 'cause sometimes,

43:31SPEAKERI have a LG monitor that has a Thunderbolt port

43:35SPEAKERthat you get different resolution options

43:37SPEAKERwhen you plug it in on Thunderbolt

43:38SPEAKERthan you do if you plug it in with display port.

43:40SPEAKER- Interesting.

43:40SPEAKER- Because the bit rate that's available on the Thunderbolt

43:44SPEAKERwas lower than what the display port could handle

43:46SPEAKERon the Thunderbolt one.

43:47SPEAKER- How old is Thunderbolt?

43:49SPEAKERAt least probably 15 years at this point, right?

43:51SPEAKER10 or 12, probably?

43:52SPEAKER- I think the MacBook Pro I bought in 2008 had it.

43:56SPEAKERThat was quite a while ago.

43:57SPEAKER- I, no, it would've been the first aluminum unibody--

44:02SPEAKER- That's what it was, that's what it was.

44:03SPEAKER- Oh yeah, that was 2008, 'cause I was still at Macs on PC.

44:05SPEAKER- Yes, that was the year I started at whiskey,

44:07SPEAKERand I bought the MacBook.

44:09SPEAKERThey offered to buy me a laptop, and I was like,

44:11SPEAKER"No, I'll buy one myself."

44:12SPEAKERI'm not sure why I did that.

44:14SPEAKER- At that point, the Thunderbolt was over display port.

44:16SPEAKERThunderbolt over USB-C would've been display port two.

44:21SPEAKER- Oh, I'm sorry.

44:21SPEAKER- Thunderbolt two or three.

44:22SPEAKER- I didn't think to specify.

44:24SPEAKERYes, I meant the physical Thunderbolt connector,

44:25SPEAKERnot the USB-C, the standard digital protocol over USB-C.

44:30SPEAKERThe reason I bring it up is I just found out last night,

44:33SPEAKERquite literally, reading about it,

44:35SPEAKERthat Thunderbolt is essentially just PCI Express

44:38SPEAKERover a connector.

44:39SPEAKER- Oh yeah.

44:39SPEAKER- Over a cable.

44:40SPEAKER- It's like a 2X PCI Express.

44:42SPEAKER- Right, I didn't know it was quite literally

44:44SPEAKERjust PCI Express over a cable.

44:47SPEAKERThat's wild.

44:48SPEAKER- There's usually a bridge on the chipset,

44:50SPEAKERso there's some extra latency or something, but yeah.

44:53SPEAKER- I found that out in the course of reading about M.2,

44:55SPEAKERwhich is PCI Express over a socket, basically.

44:59SPEAKER- Well, for a while, it was just SATA, though, too.

45:01SPEAKER- Or it can be both, right?

45:02SPEAKER- Yeah.

45:03SPEAKER- Or USB, actually.

45:03SPEAKERIt'll also interface with-

45:04SPEAKER- Oh, I didn't know that.

45:05SPEAKER- Yeah, it can be SATA, PCIe, and USB.

45:08SPEAKER- Well, so the weird thing about,

45:12SPEAKERyeah, M2s are just a physical form factor.

45:14SPEAKER- Right.

45:15SPEAKER- It's like a PCI Express card.

45:16SPEAKER- Yeah.

45:17SPEAKER- The weird thing about all the Thunderbolt stuff

45:19SPEAKERis it seemed like it was a good idea

45:20SPEAKERto have direct access to the PCI Express lanes,

45:23SPEAKERand then, and I think my assumption is that

45:27SPEAKERwhen that stuff was all coming up,

45:28SPEAKERwe assumed that we would have access

45:30SPEAKERto lots more PCI Express lanes in the future,

45:32SPEAKERand then Intel decided they were just gonna gate

45:35SPEAKERthe number, they were gonna use PCI Express lanes

45:37SPEAKERas a way to differentiate server and desktop processors,

45:41SPEAKERand so we've had the same number of PCI Express lanes

45:43SPEAKERavailable to us, unless you buy really ridiculously

45:45SPEAKERoverpriced CPUs for a long time.

45:48SPEAKERI mean, that's, which is probably the thing

45:50SPEAKERthat's gonna drive me to AMD for my next machine.

45:54SPEAKERAnyway.

45:55SPEAKER- That makes sense.

45:56SPEAKERAll right, lightning round, a couple more real quick.

45:58SPEAKER- Okay.

45:59SPEAKER- Simply bagel, would you buy a refurbished hard drive?

46:00SPEAKER- No.

46:01SPEAKER- No.

46:02SPEAKER- Absolutely not.

46:03SPEAKER- No way.

46:04SPEAKER- I literally, if I have a hard drive that has,

46:06SPEAKERthat is around for more than three years,

46:08SPEAKERI start to get antsy and feel like I need to replace it

46:10SPEAKER'cause it's gonna die.

46:11SPEAKER- Yes, new hard drives are too mechanically unreliable.

46:14SPEAKER- Yep, that's a big deal for me, dawg.

46:16SPEAKER- Never risk it on a used one.

46:18SPEAKERGauge 006, you can have an unlimited gift card

46:22SPEAKERto one eatery in your city, but you can never eat

46:25SPEAKERanywhere else for the rest of your life.

46:27SPEAKERWhere are you going?

46:28SPEAKER- Cheesecake Factory.

46:29SPEAKER- Oh wow, oh man.

46:33SPEAKER- They have the biggest menu I've ever seen.

46:35SPEAKER- You're right, actually, now that you mention it,

46:36SPEAKERthe variety there actually, like wow, I really screwed up.

46:39SPEAKERIn my mind, I was gonna say Taqueria Cancun.

46:42SPEAKER- Oh, look, that's a good choice, too.

46:44SPEAKER- Yeah, but then you're only eating burritos

46:46SPEAKERfor the entire rest of your life, which like--

46:47SPEAKER- They have tacos, too.

46:49SPEAKER- I know.

46:49SPEAKER- They have tostadas.

46:50SPEAKER- You're right.

46:51SPEAKER- You could probably, like if you're in there every day,

46:52SPEAKERthree times a day, you can probably get a quesadilla

46:54SPEAKEReven if you ask nicely.

46:56SPEAKER- Can't go from like steak to macaroni and cheese

46:58SPEAKERto like lava cake to--

47:01SPEAKER- Yeah.

47:02SPEAKER- You know.

47:04SPEAKER- I mean, I think cheese, maybe Max's Opera Cafe,

47:07SPEAKERbut I think I'd probably die in like four years

47:08SPEAKERif I ate Max's Opera Cafe every day.

47:10SPEAKER- Sure, man, Cheesecake Factory, not the worst answer.

47:15SPEAKER- My initial thought, my initial thought was

47:17SPEAKERHouse of Prime Rib, but then I was like, man,

47:18SPEAKERthey only have three things on the menu,

47:20SPEAKERand also they're only open for dinner.

47:22SPEAKER- They're three pretty good things, though.

47:24SPEAKER- They're three, they're the same three things.

47:26SPEAKER- They're very good, though.

47:27SPEAKER- They are.

47:29SPEAKER- Yeah, okay.

47:31SPEAKER- Yeah, I can't think of anything better

47:32SPEAKERthan Cheesecake Factory, though.

47:34SPEAKER- I'll accept it.

47:35SPEAKER- Okay.

47:36SPEAKER- Last email, this is not an email,

47:38SPEAKERit's from Discord, from Visualizer.

47:41SPEAKER- Techbot@content.town.

47:43SPEAKER- What's it like to have a Discord full of nerds

47:45SPEAKERtalking and making memes about you?

47:48SPEAKERI'm trying to imagine if I had a fish tank or ant colony,

47:50SPEAKERbut every time I peered into it,

47:51SPEAKERthey were building little statues of me.

47:54SPEAKERI don't know how I'd feel about that.

47:56SPEAKER- Oh no, it's like that episode of Futurama.

47:58SPEAKER- I was gonna ask, so this is also,

48:00SPEAKERthat same concept is also

48:01SPEAKERa Simpsons Treehouse of Horror vignette?

48:03SPEAKER- Yes, yeah, with Lisa in the tooth, right?

48:05SPEAKER- Yes, is that spoofing something?

48:06SPEAKERThat has to be spoofing some old,

48:08SPEAKERsome like '50s horror thing or something, right?

48:09SPEAKER- Is it a Twilight Zone or something, maybe?

48:11SPEAKER- That would be my first guess,

48:14SPEAKERmaybe an Outer Limits or something along those lines.

48:16SPEAKERI've always wondered.

48:17SPEAKER- What's the Bender episode, Bender?

48:20SPEAKER- The Petri dish full of tiny beings

48:21SPEAKERworshiping you as a god thing.

48:25SPEAKER- I'm gonna look.

48:26SPEAKER- I'm gonna look on Futurama.

48:27SPEAKERI didn't know they had done something similar.

48:30SPEAKER- You hadn't seen it on Futurama?

48:31SPEAKER- I've seen some Futurama, but not that episode.

48:33SPEAKER- Oh God, Futurama's great.

48:34SPEAKER- So that's the one, it's called Godfellas.

48:37SPEAKERBender gets--

48:39SPEAKER- That's a good name.

48:40SPEAKER- Here's the best joke in this episode, maybe not.

48:45SPEAKERBender, the Planet Express ship

48:47SPEAKERis going at the speed of light

48:48SPEAKERand Bender gets shot forward out of it.

48:52SPEAKERTherefore, he's going faster than,

48:54SPEAKERhis relative speed is at the speed of light,

48:56SPEAKERbut he's going at a different frame,

48:58SPEAKERhe's at a different frame than the Planet Express ship,

49:00SPEAKERso they have no chance of ever catching him.

49:02SPEAKER- Got it.

49:03SPEAKER- And a civilization evolves on his ass

49:06SPEAKERover thousands of years.

49:09SPEAKER- Time dilation, is that what we're?

49:11SPEAKER- Look, it's probably, I don't know.

49:13SPEAKEREventually God becomes involved.

49:15SPEAKER- Yeah.

49:18SPEAKER- Okay, Godfellas reference.

49:21SPEAKER- I could probably also look up that Simpsons thing.

49:24SPEAKER- Yeah, that's like Treehouse of Horus 6 or something.

49:27SPEAKER- I don't know, maybe like 910, something like that.

49:30SPEAKER- Ah, it's an asteroid collides with him

49:31SPEAKERas he's running through, as he's flying through space

49:33SPEAKERand then the small civilization appears

49:35SPEAKERon his shiny metal ass.

49:38SPEAKER- Got it.

49:39SPEAKER- That's a reference to panspermia,

49:41SPEAKERthe idea that life can spread across facets of space

49:43SPEAKERby hitching a ride on space debris.

49:51SPEAKER- We're not talking, this is a podcast,

49:53SPEAKERwe have to keep talking.

49:54SPEAKER- It's, no, no, no, no, it's, okay.

49:56SPEAKERSo man, there's the Futurama fandom,

50:00SPEAKERWiki has a trivia/references page that's really good

50:05SPEAKERand it says, "Bender's god-like influence

50:07SPEAKER"upon the diminutive Shrimpkins,

50:08SPEAKER"the species on his shiny metal ass,

50:10SPEAKER"is expanded to include more serious implications

50:13SPEAKER"in Microcosmic God by Theodore Sturgeon

50:15SPEAKER"and the Twilight Zone episode, The Little People.

50:18SPEAKER"The tiny creatures in Alan Dean Foster's short story

50:20SPEAKER"Gift of a Useless Man depend on the main character

50:22SPEAKER"in a way that is similar to the Shrimpkins

50:24SPEAKER"building the civilization on Bender

50:26SPEAKER"and the god entity appears almost identical

50:28SPEAKER"to the god entity prepaid in Stanislaw Lem's

50:31SPEAKER"Voyages of Professor Tarantoga screenplay."

50:35SPEAKERI'm gonna go to the Little People summary

50:38SPEAKERand see what it is.

50:38SPEAKERIt's episode 93 of the CBS television anthology series,

50:42SPEAKERThe Twilight Zone, according to Wikipedia.

50:44SPEAKER- Okay.

50:45SPEAKER- And it's about an astronaut and his captain

50:52SPEAKERand his malcontent co-pilot who land on an alien planet

50:55SPEAKERto repair their ship and they scout out the thing

51:01SPEAKERand they find little people that are no bigger than ants.

51:04SPEAKER- I can confirm, the Simpsons thing I was talking about,

51:07SPEAKERit's called the Genesis Tub from Treehouse of Horror VII,

51:12SPEAKERalso a reference or a parody

51:14SPEAKERof the Twilight Zone episode, The Little People.

51:16SPEAKER- There you go.

51:17SPEAKER- Clearly, surprisingly.

51:18SPEAKER- That landed for Matt Groening at some point in the past.

51:20SPEAKER- Yeah, for sure.

51:22SPEAKER- Wait, he just ripped off his own parody.

51:25SPEAKER- Look, man, if you can't parody yourself,

51:26SPEAKERwho can you parody?

51:27SPEAKER- Okay, that's fair.

51:28SPEAKERAll right, that probably doesn't answer that question at all

51:30SPEAKERbut that's what we got.

51:31SPEAKER- I believe that Claude Atkins played the can-do space captain

51:37SPEAKERand Peter Craig, sorry, Joe Maros played

51:42SPEAKERthe malcontent co-pilot who convinced The Little People

51:45SPEAKERto make a statue of him.

51:48SPEAKER- Man, I got so excited that all of The Twilight Zone

51:51SPEAKERis on Paramount Plus.

51:52SPEAKER- Ooh.

51:53SPEAKER- Have we talked about this?

51:54SPEAKER- No.

51:55SPEAKER- Most of the run of the series, in my experience,

51:58SPEAKERat about the halfway point of each episode,

52:01SPEAKERthe audio goes wildly out of sync by like 10 seconds.

52:04SPEAKERIt's when that specifically when it cuts

52:06SPEAKERto what would have been a commercial and comes back

52:09SPEAKERand then the audio is like unwatchable

52:10SPEAKERand it's been that way for months

52:12SPEAKERand I've really wanted to watch some Twilight Zone

52:14SPEAKERand I can't and they haven't fixed it.

52:16SPEAKER- Is there a report a problem with this thing?

52:18SPEAKER'Cause--

52:18SPEAKER- Well, I don't know about in the app,

52:20SPEAKERI haven't checked to see but like it's all over like Reddit.

52:22SPEAKERIt's not, I've confirmed it is a widespread problem.

52:25SPEAKERIt is like--

52:27SPEAKER- You know, on some of the, I wanna say AMC

52:31SPEAKERor one of the, it's not Criterion

52:34SPEAKER'cause they actually pay attention to shit

52:36SPEAKERbut one of the services that I, Bravo or somebody had a,

52:39SPEAKERhey, is there a problem with this?

52:41SPEAKERYou can hit a question mark and it will help you fix it.

52:44SPEAKERLike it doesn't help you fix it but it reports it to them

52:45SPEAKERso then they fix it.

52:46SPEAKER- I should check for that.

52:47SPEAKERI should check for that because you know,

52:48SPEAKERParamount, large company, I'm like how is this possible

52:51SPEAKERin this major commercial service

52:52SPEAKERyou have launched a former employer?

52:54SPEAKER- If only you knew someone there.

52:55SPEAKER- Yeah.

52:58SPEAKER- That's a good question.

52:59SPEAKER- Yeah, that was a good question

53:00SPEAKERfor which we did not have a satisfactory answer.

53:02SPEAKER- What was the question again?

53:04SPEAKER- What is it like having a discord full of people

53:06SPEAKERmaking memes about you?

53:07SPEAKER- Oh, it's weird.

53:08SPEAKERI don't ever go into darkness

53:09SPEAKER'cause I find it scary and threatening.

53:10SPEAKER- It's weird.

53:11SPEAKER- But not in a bad way.

53:12SPEAKERI just don't like, I don't wanna be faced

53:14SPEAKERwith my own nonsense.

53:15SPEAKER- Yeah.

53:16SPEAKERIf you don't enjoy being the center of attention,

53:17SPEAKERdon't go into this line of work.

53:19SPEAKERLet me tell you from experience.

53:20SPEAKER- The problem I think both of us have

53:22SPEAKERis that we have well-developed senses of shame.

53:24SPEAKER- Yes.

53:25SPEAKER- And like, it's really a, like, just to be clear,

53:30SPEAKERall right, I don't know if I should say this out loud,

53:32SPEAKERbut like somebody asked me the other day

53:34SPEAKERif I had any regrets about the way I've run my career

53:36SPEAKERover the last 20 years.

53:37SPEAKERI was like, you know, if I'm being honest,

53:40SPEAKERit would have been a lot easier

53:41SPEAKERif I decided instead of trying to make smart content

53:43SPEAKERfor people who are smart and interesting,

53:46SPEAKERif I just made stuff that was, you know,

53:48SPEAKERleast common denominator for chuds,

53:50SPEAKERmy life would have been a lot easier

53:51SPEAKERand I'd have made a lot more money.

53:52SPEAKER- You'd probably be retired.

53:54SPEAKER- But on the other hand, I have a very fulfilling life

53:57SPEAKERand I reach a lot of people whose influence comes back to me

54:01SPEAKERand fulfills me in a way that is, the chuds could not.

54:04SPEAKERSo thank you for not being chuds, TechPod listeners.

54:08SPEAKER- Yeah, it's a victory of the soul, if not of the wallet.

54:12SPEAKER- Yeah.

54:14SPEAKER- That's it for questions, I think.

54:16SPEAKER- That's the whole thing?

54:17SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, there are more, I could ask more.

54:19SPEAKER- You might have to ask more, ask me one more,

54:21SPEAKERask one more 'cause I have to open up the thing

54:25SPEAKERabout the people, what we think.

54:27SPEAKER- It's also from gauge 006.

54:28SPEAKERIf you're not supposed to put cotton swabs in your ears,

54:30SPEAKERhow do you clean your ears?

54:31SPEAKER- Hydrogen peroxide.

54:32SPEAKER- Wait, like just pour it in there?

54:35SPEAKER- Yeah.

54:36SPEAKER- Really?

54:37SPEAKER- Plop plop fizz fizz.

54:38SPEAKER- Is that safe?

54:40SPEAKER- I don't know, I've been doing it for 46 years.

54:43SPEAKER- What?

54:46SPEAKER- No comment.

54:49SPEAKER- Go to the doctor, get them to clean it.

54:51SPEAKERIs that probably the actual answer?

54:53SPEAKERBut hydrogen peroxide's fine.

54:54SPEAKER- I didn't know you weren't supposed to put cotton swabs.

54:56SPEAKER- What, really?

54:57SPEAKER- Yeah.

54:58SPEAKER- The ad had the guy with the shoulder problem

55:00SPEAKERwho could jam his elbow, he's still,

55:02SPEAKER"Don't put anything in your ears smaller than your elbow."

55:04SPEAKER- Even gently and not too far in.

55:06SPEAKER- Look, man, how do you know what's too far in

55:09SPEAKERuntil it's too late?

55:10SPEAKER- You don't wanna come up against your eardrum or anything.

55:15SPEAKER- Well, the real problem is that the skin

55:17SPEAKERon the inside of your ear canal is real, real thin

55:19SPEAKERand it's easy to tear it and go straight to bone.

55:21SPEAKER- Yes, okay, that's good to know.

55:23SPEAKER- Yeah.

55:24SPEAKER- No, I don't do it often.

55:24SPEAKER- Yeah, Jesus, man.

55:28SPEAKERThis is the part of the show, Brad,

55:29SPEAKERwhere we tell people how to reach out to us

55:31SPEAKERand send us more questions,

55:32SPEAKERwhich we will turn into answers.

55:33SPEAKERThe email address, which we check with religious,

55:38SPEAKERreligiously, is techpod@content.town.

55:41SPEAKEROr if you're in the Patreon Discord,

55:44SPEAKERthe Discord for patrons,

55:45SPEAKERyou can go to the Question Seeking Answers channel

55:48SPEAKERand post your question there.

55:49SPEAKERIt will go into the void.

55:50SPEAKERWe will read it at some point in the future

55:52SPEAKERand may or may not turn it into an A.

55:54SPEAKER- Yes, Warbird, don't wait for the M2 MacBook Pro.

55:57SPEAKERIt's not coming anytime soon.

55:58SPEAKERJust buy a laptop.

56:00SPEAKER- Also-

56:01SPEAKER- When I am telling you don't wait, just go ahead and buy,

56:03SPEAKERyou know it's safe to buy.

56:04SPEAKER- Also, I don't care about Lane Kiffin at all.

56:08SPEAKERI'm just gonna put that out there.

56:09SPEAKER- There is so much college football garbage in here.

56:11SPEAKER- No feelings whatsoever.

56:15SPEAKER- Brad, this is the part of the show

56:16SPEAKERwhere we thank our patrons.

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56:19SPEAKER- Thank you, patrons.

56:21SPEAKER- Thank you.

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56:52SPEAKER- Fishy J, thank you.

56:53SPEAKER- Cake batter.

56:54SPEAKER- Cake batter, I knew there was a C one in there.

56:56SPEAKER- Heroes of the Q and A.

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57:13SPEAKER- Oh, this is great.

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57:19SPEAKERThank you all so, so much.

57:20SPEAKERWe really appreciate your support.

57:21SPEAKER- Yes, we do.

57:24SPEAKER- Thinking about maybe adding a new benefit

57:26SPEAKERto the TechPod patron tiers.

57:29SPEAKER- Oh.

57:30SPEAKER- Yes, I signed up for a Mastodon server the other day

57:34SPEAKERwhen certain news events happened.

57:37SPEAKER- And the turn in public opinion about that thing,

57:40SPEAKERlike I feel like every third person now

57:42SPEAKERis predicting it's gonna fall through,

57:44SPEAKERand I don't know.

57:45SPEAKER- The sale or the Mastodon?

57:47SPEAKER- No, the sale.

57:48SPEAKER- Yeah.

57:49SPEAKER- I don't know, we'll see.

57:51SPEAKER- I think I'm taking a wait and see approach.

57:53SPEAKERI don't care one way or the other.

57:54SPEAKERI'm unfortunately due to a series of circumstances

57:57SPEAKERkind of outside of my control at this point.

57:58SPEAKERI am probably pretty committed to Twitter

58:00SPEAKERfor the foreseeable future,

58:01SPEAKERwhether I like to be there or not.

58:03SPEAKER- What if you just stopped?

58:05SPEAKER- Well, I have obligations relating to my job

58:08SPEAKERthat it requires time spent on Twitter.

58:10SPEAKER- That's fair.

58:12SPEAKER- So yeah, but if you would like to participate

58:15SPEAKERin a Twitter-like experience that is federated

58:19SPEAKERand not tied to billionaires, you potentially can do that.

58:27SPEAKERBy the time you hear this episode,

58:28SPEAKERwe gotta just flip the switch on

58:29SPEAKERand start giving people invites.

58:32SPEAKERSo there you go, Mastodon.

58:34SPEAKER- Exciting, yeah.

58:35SPEAKER- It's like Twitter, but I don't know.

58:39SPEAKERWe control it.

58:40SPEAKER- We run the servers. - Wait.

58:42SPEAKER- But not really us.

58:43SPEAKERLike we're paying somebody to run the server

58:44SPEAKERso that it gets backed up and updated and all that stuff.

58:46SPEAKER- So we're Jack now?

58:48SPEAKER- No. - Okay.

58:49SPEAKER- No, hold on, hold on.

58:52SPEAKER- I would rather be Jack than Elon Musk

58:54SPEAKERif that's the question.

58:56SPEAKER- The question is, are you Jack, are you Ev,

58:57SPEAKERor are you Biz Stone?

58:58SPEAKER- Oh, okay, I can't, I'm sorry.

59:00SPEAKERI'm not up on my Twitter founder lore enough

59:03SPEAKERto answer that one, I'm afraid to say.

59:07SPEAKER- I don't think you wanna be,

59:08SPEAKERyeah, maybe you're the Ev.

59:10SPEAKER- Okay, I'm sure. - Anyhow.

59:12SPEAKER- Take it, I guess.

59:14SPEAKER- Thanks for listening, we'll be back next week

59:16SPEAKERwith another episode of the TechPod.

59:17SPEAKERAnd you should go listen to this week's episode

59:19SPEAKERof the FosPod, which is very good

59:20SPEAKERand is about open source software that you should be using.

59:23SPEAKERYou can find out about that at FosPod.content.town.

59:26SPEAKERSee y'all next week, bye.

59:27SPEAKER(upbeat music)