98: The Fox Knows What's Up

00:00SPEAKER- Brad, you're getting your pipes looked at next week.

00:02SPEAKER- What?

00:02SPEAKERDon't talk about that in public.

00:04SPEAKERThat's, you know, I mean, it's a medical thing.

00:06SPEAKERI know, it's like, there's...

00:08SPEAKER- Look, HIPAA doesn't mean that I can't talk about your shit.

00:10SPEAKERIt means that the hospital can't talk about your shit, Brad.

00:13SPEAKER- I guess that's true.

00:15SPEAKERWhat was it you said right before we started this?

00:18SPEAKER- I said--

00:19SPEAKER- If I get scoped, we can compare something.

00:21SPEAKERWhat was it?

00:21SPEAKER- We can compare our pipes, man.

00:23SPEAKER- Oh, man.

00:23SPEAKER- I got, look, a few years ago, I had some voice problems.

00:28SPEAKERI went to the UCSF voice and swallowing clinic,

00:30SPEAKERwhich is fantastic.

00:31SPEAKERThey're wonderful doctors, magic workers,

00:34SPEAKERand they helped me with my problems

00:35SPEAKERwhere I was losing my voice all the time.

00:37SPEAKERBut phase one, as it often is, was going to the doctor

00:42SPEAKERand having them stick something inside you

00:43SPEAKERwith a camera and a light on it.

00:45SPEAKER- Oh, boy.

00:46SPEAKER- And then they made me make a bunch of weird sounds

00:48SPEAKERand they watched my vocal cords.

00:50SPEAKER- Well, I guess I'm in luck 'cause I have an appointment

00:52SPEAKERat the same clinic next Thursday.

00:54SPEAKER- Oh, man, you are in, you are in, look, okay.

00:57SPEAKERI don't think I've ever had

00:58SPEAKERan invasive camera experience before.

01:00SPEAKER- Well, hey, get ready 'cause the older you get,

01:03SPEAKERthe more of 'em there are.

01:04SPEAKER- I was gonna say, this is at least easing me in, right?

01:07SPEAKER- Look, you have a lot of holes

01:08SPEAKERand they can put cameras in all of 'em, Brad.

01:10SPEAKER- Could we not, can we never use language

01:12SPEAKERlike that again, ever?

01:14SPEAKER- I mean, look, on the nice side, if you think about it,

01:17SPEAKERsome of 'em aren't even holes.

01:18SPEAKERSome of 'em, it's just like the outside,

01:20SPEAKERit's the tourist, it's the center of the donut,

01:23SPEAKERif you know what I mean.

01:24SPEAKER- So, are we talking ears here?

01:26SPEAKERWhat's going on?

01:27SPEAKER- No, the ears don't go all the way through, Brad.

01:29SPEAKER- Okay, that's true.

01:30SPEAKER- Yeah, there's only one hole, well, two holes.

01:32SPEAKER- There is probably continuity all the way

01:33SPEAKERfrom one ear to the next, right?

01:35SPEAKERThrough the throat, through the throat.

01:36SPEAKER- There's eardrums, the eardrums stop everything.

01:39SPEAKER- I guess you're right.

01:40SPEAKER- They're impermeable.

01:41SPEAKER- There's no air passing anywhere from there.

01:42SPEAKER- As far as I'm aware, there's only one passage

01:44SPEAKERthat goes all the way through.

01:45SPEAKERIt's a long journey, it's fraught with peril.

01:47SPEAKER- Oh, it's not, but they let you keep all your media, right?

01:50SPEAKERI think you've posted some of it in the Discord before,

01:52SPEAKERright, it looked like the predator?

01:53SPEAKER- Yeah, I have posted my vocal chords in the Discord before.

01:56SPEAKER- You, I think back then was before they did

01:59SPEAKERall of their digital sharing stuff,

02:02SPEAKERand she was like, I don't know how to give you

02:04SPEAKERa video of this, but why don't you just point your phone

02:06SPEAKERat the screen, 'cause I watched this, I was like,

02:09SPEAKERI've got to have video of this, this is frickin' awesome.

02:12SPEAKER- Are you saying I'm gonna be able to sign into a web portal

02:14SPEAKERand download a video of my, look, my uvula?

02:18SPEAKER- Yeah, no, that would be on the top, they aim down.

02:21SPEAKER- Oh, okay.

02:22SPEAKER- So they put this, I'm gonna tell you,

02:25SPEAKERthis was actually, of the cameras that they can jam

02:28SPEAKERin your holes, this was the least invasive one I've done.

02:31SPEAKER- I thought we covered this, come on.

02:33SPEAKER(laughing)

02:38SPEAKER- They put it in the back of your mouth,

02:39SPEAKERyou very carefully trying not to trigger gag reflex.

02:43SPEAKER- Oh, good, that sounds like a gauntlet unto itself.

02:47SPEAKER- Look, she was very delicate, good hands,

02:49SPEAKERI was very, very pleased.

02:51SPEAKER- Okay.

02:52SPEAKER- They aim the camera down and they get to the point

02:58SPEAKERthat they can get past like your soft palate

03:00SPEAKERand see your vocal cords, like the opening for your trachea,

03:04SPEAKERwhere your trachea snaps open

03:06SPEAKERand closes next to your esophagus.

03:08SPEAKERAnd then you make a bunch of weird sounds,

03:11SPEAKERso you can see the cords in slow motion.

03:14SPEAKERAnd it's frickin' cool, man.

03:17SPEAKERThey like, well, okay, a fleshy, like fleshy,

03:25SPEAKERGiger-esque nightmare, it was like that part,

03:28SPEAKERthere's weird stuff inside people.

03:30SPEAKER- Anything that close up is going to be.

03:33SPEAKER- It was a lot.

03:34SPEAKERBut on the other hand,

03:35SPEAKERhow often do you get to see your cords working in high speed

03:37SPEAKERand see the little ripples of the sounds being formed?

03:40SPEAKER- That sounds neat, I suppose,

03:42SPEAKERit's something to look forward to, it'll be an experience.

03:44SPEAKERDid you have any visible damage?

03:46SPEAKERDid they recoil in horror and be like,

03:48SPEAKERoh God, what have you been talking about?

03:50SPEAKER- Nope, like if you've ever watched,

03:52SPEAKERI think Pitch Perfect 2, they talk about nodes.

03:55SPEAKERI think what she was looking for in that instance

03:56SPEAKERwas like nodes and like little growths on your cords.

04:00SPEAKER- Yeah, I think those require surgery, right?

04:02SPEAKER- Sometimes.

04:03SPEAKER- Like some singers get those.

04:04SPEAKER- Well, like everything I learned about this,

04:07SPEAKERI learned from Pitch Perfect 2.

04:08SPEAKERBut if you get nodes, or Pitch Perfect 1 maybe,

04:11SPEAKERI can't remember, if you get nodes on your cords,

04:12SPEAKERyou get surgery, you can change the tone of your voice.

04:14SPEAKER- Oh no.

04:15SPEAKER- Yeah, you sing like an angel, Brad,

04:17SPEAKERyou can't get nodes cut off.

04:18SPEAKER- Not anymore, I can't, I don't sing at all.

04:20SPEAKERI don't do it like, much like I'm ending most days

04:25SPEAKERhaving difficulty talking at this point, it turns out.

04:27SPEAKER- Oh God, I'm so sorry.

04:28SPEAKER- No, it's okay.

04:29SPEAKERYou talk every day professionally for like 15 years, it's.

04:33SPEAKER- So the good news is, at least in my case,

04:37SPEAKERthey were able to help a lot.

04:38SPEAKERLike they went through and I talked to like

04:41SPEAKERa speech therapist who taught me,

04:43SPEAKERwho basically listened to me talk

04:45SPEAKERand watch how I use my mouth and my like,

04:50SPEAKERthere's a lot of touching at the physical therapy,

04:53SPEAKERlike a lot of neck touching, which is uncomfortable,

04:54SPEAKERbut like this whole thing just gets more and more personal.

04:57SPEAKERI don't know.

04:58SPEAKERLook, it's worth it.

04:59SPEAKERI'm gonna go and tell you, 100% worth it.

05:02SPEAKER- Okay.

05:03SPEAKER- She told, the speech therapist was like,

05:05SPEAKERokay, here's some things you're doing,

05:06SPEAKERhere's some exercises that you need to do

05:08SPEAKERfor the next two weeks that will help you retrain yourself

05:11SPEAKERto not do this stuff and to at least be aware

05:14SPEAKERwhen you're doing the things

05:15SPEAKERthat you're doing to hurt yourself.

05:17SPEAKERAnd then here are like some stretches and exercises

05:19SPEAKERand massages and stuff like that you can do

05:22SPEAKERto release the muscles that are like,

05:25SPEAKERlike in my case, it was that I was doing

05:27SPEAKERlike two or three things wrong

05:29SPEAKERand those things wrong had a cascading series

05:31SPEAKERof like of side effects that were causing me

05:34SPEAKERa lot of discomfort and pain.

05:37SPEAKERAnd once I got rid of the three things

05:39SPEAKERthat were causing the problems,

05:41SPEAKERthen like retraining myself to not do them,

05:44SPEAKERI was much better almost immediately.

05:46SPEAKER- Stretches and exercises, are my vocal cords

05:48SPEAKERgonna be doing like deadlifts and curls and tricep?

05:51SPEAKER- You're gonna be rubbing up under your jaw

05:53SPEAKERlike you've never rubbed before.

05:54SPEAKER- Are my vocal cords going to get swole?

05:56SPEAKER- Look, you're gonna be so ripped, bro.

05:59SPEAKERSo ripped.

06:01SPEAKERNever skip vocal cord day, Brad.

06:03SPEAKER(upbeat music)

06:11SPEAKER(upbeat music continues)

06:31SPEAKER- Welcome to Brad and Will Made at TechPod, I'm Will.

06:35SPEAKER- I'm Brad, we're doing this early enough in the morning

06:36SPEAKERthat I sound normal.

06:38SPEAKER- You sound great, man.

06:39SPEAKER- It pitches up throughout the day.

06:42SPEAKER- That's probably a response.

06:43SPEAKERLook, I'm not a vocal therapist.

06:44SPEAKER- They're gonna tell you a bunch of shit about how you talk

06:46SPEAKERand you're gonna feel very self-conscious about it.

06:48SPEAKERYou gotta open your mind, open your heart.

06:51SPEAKER- We had some family come by.

06:53SPEAKER- Family?

06:54SPEAKER- Fam, what?

06:55SPEAKER- Family?

06:56SPEAKER- Did you just, fam?

06:57SPEAKER- Did you watch Fast and the Furious 9?

06:58SPEAKER- Did you, what?

07:00SPEAKER- Family.

07:01SPEAKER- Is that a B?

07:02SPEAKER- Oh yeah, there's a B.

07:03SPEAKERWhen Vin Diesel says family in Fast and the Furious movies,

07:06SPEAKERhe says family.

07:08SPEAKER- Family.

07:09SPEAKER- Family.

07:10SPEAKER- Oh, I don't think any family came by.

07:12SPEAKERI've never seen a Fast or a Furious.

07:14SPEAKER- What?

07:14SPEAKER- Let's not get into it.

07:15SPEAKERAnyway, all I was gonna say is, you know,

07:18SPEAKERnaturally we had not seen these people

07:20SPEAKERin like a year and a half.

07:22SPEAKERThey stopped by in that brief window

07:24SPEAKERwhere it seemed like if everyone's vaccinated, you're okay.

07:27SPEAKERWhich I think we are rapidly exiting.

07:29SPEAKER- We're leaving now, yeah.

07:30SPEAKER- But anyway, this was three, four weeks ago or something.

07:32SPEAKERBut one of them almost immediately asked,

07:35SPEAKERare you coming down to something?

07:37SPEAKERAre you okay?

07:37SPEAKERAre you under the weather?

07:38SPEAKEROh, this is just how I sound late in the day.

07:40SPEAKERLike it sounded like I was losing my voice

07:43SPEAKER'cause I was sick or something.

07:45SPEAKERAnyway, whatever, I don't need to belabor the point.

07:47SPEAKERI'm looking forward to getting scoped.

07:49SPEAKER- Yeah, put those cameras in your holes, Brad.

07:53SPEAKER- God damn it.

07:53SPEAKER(laughing)

07:56SPEAKER- You know what time it is.

07:57SPEAKERWell, it's a week late.

07:59SPEAKER- Can we just convert some questions and answers please?

08:01SPEAKER- We're a week late and we're an hour short.

08:04SPEAKERHow do people send questions into us, Brad?

08:06SPEAKER- I don't know about you, but I want to issue

08:10SPEAKERa sincere thank you to our Discord community

08:12SPEAKERfor all of the great questions.

08:13SPEAKERWe got a ton of questions this month.

08:16SPEAKER- I would say several hundred questions.

08:18SPEAKERAnd when I scroll through the list, they're all good.

08:21SPEAKER- Like, yeah, we copied, I don't even know

08:24SPEAKERhow many into this doc that we're probably not even

08:26SPEAKERget through a third of the ones we put into this doc.

08:28SPEAKERAnd we only probably put like a 20th

08:30SPEAKERof the questions in this doc.

08:32SPEAKER- Yes.

08:32SPEAKER- Anyway, all I was gonna say,

08:34SPEAKERyeah, we're mostly taking these questions on our Discord now.

08:36SPEAKER- Yeah, the one thing that I don't like about that

08:39SPEAKERis that it then is exclusive to patrons.

08:41SPEAKER- Oh yeah, yeah, it's not, it's not, well.

08:44SPEAKER- Like, but-

08:45SPEAKER- Should I just say it?

08:45SPEAKERShould I just say it?

08:46SPEAKERWe haven't been getting a lot of emails lately.

08:48SPEAKER- We have not been getting a lot of emails.

08:49SPEAKERLike, I feel like maybe email's dead, Brad.

08:51SPEAKER- I am more than happy to read questions from emails

08:54SPEAKERfrom anyone who listens to the show.

08:56SPEAKERWe just haven't been getting a lot.

08:58SPEAKERSo please, please feel free to email us.

09:01SPEAKERWe will absolutely still take your questions at-

09:03SPEAKER- No, techpod@content.town.

09:06SPEAKER- That's techpod@content.town.

09:08SPEAKER- God, the sultry tones this morning, Brad.

09:12SPEAKER- Yeah, please, please continue emailing if you would like,

09:14SPEAKERbut-

09:15SPEAKER- But yeah, but this Discord experiment,

09:17SPEAKERthe void into which people type questions,

09:20SPEAKERit's working really well from where I sit.

09:22SPEAKER- Real talk, to do a question and answer episode,

09:24SPEAKERyou need questions.

09:25SPEAKER- Yeah, we can't do questions without,

09:26SPEAKERwe can't turn questions into answers without questions.

09:28SPEAKER- But if we're not getting a lot of questions in the email,

09:30SPEAKERwe have got to take extraordinary measures.

09:33SPEAKER- There are more than a few thousand in here, actually.

09:36SPEAKERIt is a ton.

09:37SPEAKER- Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you to everyone

09:40SPEAKERfor asking all these questions

09:43SPEAKER'cause it makes doing these episodes a lot easier

09:45SPEAKERwhen we have a ton of good questions.

09:46SPEAKER- A Money asked, can y'all do a hackathon?

09:49SPEAKERMan, that is a good idea.

09:50SPEAKER- What, I saw that. - It's way up there.

09:52SPEAKER- I saw that and I didn't know how to respond

09:54SPEAKERbecause in what position am I to participate in a hackathon?

09:58SPEAKERI don't know how to hack.

09:59SPEAKER- We have organizational skills.

10:01SPEAKERWe have people skills.

10:02SPEAKER- I guess you don't have to actually hack yourself

10:04SPEAKERto be part of a hackathon?

10:05SPEAKER- No, no.

10:06SPEAKER- Like you could just get other people together

10:08SPEAKERand inspire them to hack?

10:09SPEAKER- We could just say, hey, let's take like a Friday,

10:12SPEAKERSaturday and Sunday one month and let's do some projects.

10:16SPEAKER- TechPod community hackathon?

10:18SPEAKER- Like what if we were like, okay,

10:22SPEAKERwe're gonna go find some low traffic open source projects

10:25SPEAKERand go fix some bugs.

10:26SPEAKERThat's a terrible idea

10:27SPEAKER'cause I'm sure we would fuck all kinds of stuff up.

10:29SPEAKERBut like-

10:31SPEAKER- I admire your spirit though.

10:32SPEAKER- Yeah, like what could we do?

10:34SPEAKERLike we could do a game jam.

10:35SPEAKERWe could do a hackathon.

10:36SPEAKERWe could do a help other people with their projects

10:39SPEAKERthat need code.

10:41SPEAKERLike there's all sorts of things we could do.

10:43SPEAKERThat last one's mostly for me, if I'm being honest.

10:46SPEAKER- That's a cool idea.

10:46SPEAKERWe should back pocket that one.

10:48SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm gonna put that one in the back pocket.

10:50SPEAKEROkay, do you have a serious vetted question

10:53SPEAKERfor us to go down here?

10:55SPEAKER- Let's get into the actual questions.

10:57SPEAKER- What about your question answering hat, Brad?

10:59SPEAKER- All right, first question is from GlassPup.

11:02SPEAKEROkay, I'm trying to do this.

11:03SPEAKERThis is so hard to remember this.

11:04SPEAKERThe first tip you gave me was don't talk

11:06SPEAKERwithout a full breath.

11:08SPEAKER- Breathe.

11:09SPEAKER- Preloaded.

11:10SPEAKER- I was told, the first thing she told me

11:11SPEAKERwas I was breathing wrong.

11:13SPEAKER- You gotta preload a breath before you start talking

11:15SPEAKERand I'm terrible.

11:16SPEAKERLike every time I talk, I'm like,

11:17SPEAKERI've got like maybe a third of my breath left in the tank.

11:21SPEAKER- Yeah, and you're just like, man, I can do this.

11:23SPEAKER- You just push through.

11:25SPEAKER- Yeah, it's like you're sitting and looking at a bomb

11:27SPEAKERand there's a red wire and a green wire

11:28SPEAKERand you're like, I don't know which one to cut,

11:30SPEAKERbut I gotta get this question out

11:32SPEAKERand I only have this much air left in my lungs.

11:34SPEAKER- I'm just gonna push it.

11:35SPEAKER- Push it diaphragm, push it, take it to the limit.

11:37SPEAKER- Apparently that's bad?

11:38SPEAKER- It's bad.

11:39SPEAKER- Okay.

11:41SPEAKERWhy is ATX the standard form factor?

11:44SPEAKER32 gigabytes of DDR4 is easily reached

11:46SPEAKERwith only two dual rank DIMMs.

11:49SPEAKERNVENC is plenty for stream encoding.

11:52SPEAKEROr you have 12 and 16 core enthusiast CPUs.

11:55SPEAKERDual GPUs are pretty much gone.

11:57SPEAKERYou don't need a secondary PC to stream.

11:59SPEAKERSome people would beg to differ on that one.

12:00SPEAKER- That's not true.

12:02SPEAKER- 280 millimeter all-in-one water coolers fit in ITX builds.

12:07SPEAKERAnd most people only have one or two M.2 drives

12:10SPEAKERwith maybe an extra SATA SSD.

12:13SPEAKERJust to clarify where he's going with this

12:15SPEAKERor where they are going with this.

12:17SPEAKERLike these are all reasons

12:18SPEAKERthat PCs can be small these days.

12:19SPEAKER- Yes, these are arguments for making itsy bitsy PCs.

12:23SPEAKER- So why is MATX or ITX not the standard form factor?

12:27SPEAKERIs it just momentum already built into the industry?

12:29SPEAKERAre capture cards still a thing?

12:31SPEAKERDo we just like the amount of glass available

12:33SPEAKERon an oversized ATX case?

12:35SPEAKERInterested to hear your thoughts.

12:37SPEAKERLike, yeah, he's basically saying like,

12:38SPEAKERhey, PCs can be extremely small and compact these days.

12:41SPEAKERSo why the hell do we keep doing these big-ass ATX cases

12:44SPEAKERwhen it's mostly empty space in there?

12:46SPEAKER- So, I mean, my computer,

12:49SPEAKERwell, first off, USB capture cards suck universally.

12:53SPEAKERSo if you need to cap, yeah, they're bad.

12:54SPEAKERI've had some okay luck, I mean, it depends

12:57SPEAKERon your use case, I guess.

12:58SPEAKER- Okay, when I say suck, I mean, right now,

13:01SPEAKERif I want to stream a PS5 or a Switch game,

13:03SPEAKERI can have that up and running in like two minutes

13:05SPEAKERwithout having to do any like janking around

13:07SPEAKERwith cables or anything.

13:08SPEAKERAnd every time I've tried to use a USB capture card,

13:11SPEAKERlike you always have to unplug it and replug it,

13:13SPEAKERor there's some weirdness because USB is janky.

13:17SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, you're not wrong,

13:18SPEAKERbut I've only used one USB capture device.

13:20SPEAKERIt was a Magewell, if you're familiar with those.

13:22SPEAKER- Yeah, I remember them, yeah.

13:23SPEAKERLike I've had worse luck with the Elgato internal

13:26SPEAKERcapture card I've got now than I had

13:28SPEAKERwith that Magewell before, but not, you know,

13:32SPEAKERthat's anecdotal.

13:33SPEAKER- So, but also if you want to have more than one

13:36SPEAKERor two capture devices, like if you're using

13:38SPEAKERmultiple cameras, then you have to use cards

13:40SPEAKER'cause you'll saturate your USB bus really quickly.

13:43SPEAKER- Bus contention is a phrase I have become acquainted with.

13:47SPEAKER- The, so like if you're doing a video mixer

13:50SPEAKERor a machine that works like a video mixer,

13:51SPEAKERlike a standalone stream PC, then like either two

13:55SPEAKERor three capture cards in my stream PC at any given moment.

13:57SPEAKER- Jeez.

13:58SPEAKER- Well, 'cause one does the camera

13:59SPEAKERand then one does the connection from the PC

14:02SPEAKERto the, to the, to the, to the game PC to the stream PC.

14:09SPEAKER- Okay, the perils of doing the early morning podcast.

14:11SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, look, I didn't make coffee

14:13SPEAKER'cause I didn't want to wake up from running the house

14:14SPEAKERby running the grinder this morning.

14:16SPEAKER- You're, you're starting to see capture cards,

14:17SPEAKERnot taking, we're getting off on a capture card tangent here,

14:19SPEAKERbut you're starting to see cards

14:20SPEAKERwith multiple discrete inputs.

14:21SPEAKER- Yeah, Avrometer media makes one with two

14:24SPEAKERthat's very reasonably priced.

14:25SPEAKERAnd Longato has that forehead one.

14:27SPEAKER- Yes.

14:29SPEAKER- But still, you can't, you also can't really do

14:34SPEAKERan OBS machine that doesn't have a real GPU

14:37SPEAKERbecause they use the GPU for compositing.

14:39SPEAKERSo if you try to run that on integrated,

14:41SPEAKERyou're gonna have a bad time.

14:42SPEAKERSo you need two slots for, at minimum, for a streaming PC.

14:47SPEAKER- Yeah, well, I mean, we're talking a lot

14:50SPEAKERabout streamer life here.

14:51SPEAKERThe question is a lot more general, of course,

14:53SPEAKERbut like I personally speaking from my own experience,

14:55SPEAKERI think a lot of it is probably inertia and traditionalism.

14:58SPEAKERLike, like definitely in my mind, like, okay,

15:04SPEAKERhere's a good example.

15:05SPEAKERMy last build, I got, I got a micro ATX board

15:10SPEAKERas part of a bundle.

15:11SPEAKER- Okay.

15:12SPEAKER- Like it was such a good deal that I got the bundle,

15:13SPEAKEReven though like I didn't want the board, right?

15:15SPEAKERLike it was like, it's like, oh, this bundle is basically,

15:17SPEAKERit was, it was a new egg pricing error.

15:19SPEAKER- Oh yeah.

15:20SPEAKERIt was a placing error in your favor.

15:22SPEAKER- It was like, oh, this bundle is cheaper

15:24SPEAKERthan just the CPU separately.

15:25SPEAKERI should just get this.

15:26SPEAKERBut like an idiot, I turned right around

15:30SPEAKERand bought a full-size ATX board because in my mind,

15:32SPEAKERI was like, this doesn't have enough ports on it.

15:34SPEAKERI got enough PCIe slots.

15:36SPEAKERTurns out actually, you know what, in retrospect,

15:37SPEAKERthat was a good idea because I've,

15:39SPEAKERI am now currently using every PCI express slot

15:41SPEAKERin this system.

15:42SPEAKER- That's the thing, yeah.

15:43SPEAKER- But I didn't think that at the time.

15:45SPEAKERAt the time, all I thought was like micro ATX is too small.

15:47SPEAKERThere's not enough on this board.

15:50SPEAKERLike I need something,

15:51SPEAKEReven though this perfectly functional board

15:52SPEAKERis sitting right in front of me,

15:53SPEAKERI'm gonna buy a faulty ATX one

15:54SPEAKER'cause that's what a computer is, goddammit.

15:56SPEAKER- Well, and then the other thing is there's always stuff

15:59SPEAKERcoming in the future that you can't predict.

16:01SPEAKERLike I used a wireless vibe kit for a long time

16:04SPEAKERand that used a YDI or whatever the Intel's

16:09SPEAKERhigh frequency wireless standard is.

16:12SPEAKERAnd that's a PCI express card.

16:13SPEAKERLike without a slot, I couldn't have done that.

16:15SPEAKER- Sure.

16:16SPEAKERSo, I mean, the challenge now is that the,

16:21SPEAKERespecially on the Intel side,

16:22SPEAKERthe number of lanes in the CPU is not commensurate

16:25SPEAKERwith the number of slots on the board.

16:27SPEAKERSo sometimes you might as well just get an like,

16:30SPEAKERokay, here's the real answer.

16:32SPEAKERIf ITX boards had two slots, they'd be fine.

16:38SPEAKER- Okay.

16:39SPEAKER- Right, but they only have one slot.

16:41SPEAKER- Okay.

16:41SPEAKER- Yeah.

16:42SPEAKER- That I didn't know.

16:43SPEAKERI've never seen one in person.

16:44SPEAKER- They're like the size of a book.

16:47SPEAKERThey're very small.

16:48SPEAKERThe other thing is those cases,

16:49SPEAKERmy daughter's PC is an ITX case.

16:51SPEAKERThey're a real pain in the ass to work in.

16:53SPEAKER- Yeah, I've like,

16:54SPEAKERI see the breakdowns of some of these builds people do.

16:56SPEAKERAnd like, I think they are like

16:56SPEAKERan amazing feat of Tetris-ing.

16:58SPEAKERLike the way that everything is just barely fit together

17:01SPEAKERwith like zero empty space is super cool on one level,

17:03SPEAKERbut yeah, it sure does look like

17:05SPEAKERit would be a pain to deal with.

17:06SPEAKER- Her case is so small that there's a little light

17:08SPEAKERin the top of the, like over the top where it goes.

17:11SPEAKERSo you can see the motherboard.

17:13SPEAKERCause like there's not really even a place

17:14SPEAKERto get a flashlight in there.

17:15SPEAKERIt's really, really snug.

17:17SPEAKER- I mean, I think conceptually,

17:18SPEAKERI think those builds are super cool.

17:20SPEAKERI don't know that they're for me,

17:21SPEAKERbut there's like a whole little subculture

17:23SPEAKERjust on our discord.

17:23SPEAKERI know there are like subreddits out there as well.

17:25SPEAKERLike some people are just super into this stuff these days.

17:28SPEAKERAnd I think it's awesome that people are doing it.

17:29SPEAKERI just don't know that it's,

17:31SPEAKERit fits my use case because like pre-planning

17:35SPEAKERand like keeping options open and extensibility

17:37SPEAKERare kind of the name of the game for me and PCs.

17:40SPEAKERLike I always want the option to do more in the future.

17:42SPEAKER- Yeah, well, and for me,

17:44SPEAKERlike a motherboard usually lasts quite a few years.

17:46SPEAKERSo I mean, if you asked me five years ago,

17:51SPEAKERwhat I would be using a computer for today

17:53SPEAKERand whether I would need two computers on my desk

17:55SPEAKERat any given time, I would have told you we're crazy.

17:57SPEAKERAnd yet here we are.

17:58SPEAKER- Yeah, like seriously, I mean, let's see.

18:01SPEAKERI built this PC.

18:03SPEAKERI bought that ATX board foolishly.

18:04SPEAKERLike I said, beginning of 2016, I want to say.

18:09SPEAKERAnd at the time I didn't know what I would put in it

18:11SPEAKERbesides a GPU and now here I am, I've got a,

18:13SPEAKERI've got a capture card.

18:14SPEAKERI've got a 40 gigabit Mellanox network adapter in there.

18:19SPEAKER- Perfectly normal stuff.

18:20SPEAKER- I've got a USB three expansion card.

18:23SPEAKER- Yep.

18:24SPEAKER- You know, also, also a 3080, you know,

18:26SPEAKERlike this thing is crammed full, like every slot is used.

18:28SPEAKERSo like, I didn't envision any of those needs

18:30SPEAKERwhen I, when I bought this board,

18:32SPEAKERbut here I am using all of them and that's a good feeling.

18:34SPEAKER- Here at the tech pod,

18:35SPEAKERwe use every slot on the motherboards.

18:37SPEAKER- Yes.

18:40SPEAKER- You got another, you got another Q.

18:43SPEAKER- Millhouse Phoenix writes in.

18:46SPEAKERDid Richard Branson and Jeff Bezos actually go to space?

18:50SPEAKERWho decides that someone has gone to space

18:52SPEAKERand what are the requirements in terms of altitude, et cetera?

18:56SPEAKER- There's an IEEE standard for space.

18:58SPEAKERNo, no, no, no, it's like Iota.

19:01SPEAKERIt's a science or decide, or NASA decides who goes to space.

19:04SPEAKER- Wait, what was that other org?

19:05SPEAKER- Iota is the, it's not Iota.

19:08SPEAKERI can't remember what Iota stands for.

19:09SPEAKERIt's some kind of international space standards board.

19:12SPEAKER- Yeah, there's an international standards body

19:14SPEAKERthat determines where space is.

19:15SPEAKER- I love standards.

19:17SPEAKERI mean, you know, we've gone on record

19:18SPEAKERabout consortiums before, but like, you know.

19:22SPEAKER- We've threatened to do episodes about this

19:24SPEAKERand we haven't found the right path to that yet.

19:26SPEAKER- But I like, I like keeping track of the standards bodies.

19:29SPEAKERYou know, you've got your NISTs, you've got your ANSI.

19:32SPEAKER- Yeah, I love ANSI.

19:34SPEAKERSo NASA decides, NASA hands out astronaut wings to people

19:39SPEAKERwhen they go to space, basically.

19:41SPEAKER- Okay.

19:43SPEAKER- And it's, I think it was 50 miles for a long time.

19:49SPEAKER- Okay.

19:49SPEAKER- Like they gave.

19:51SPEAKER- Wait, that's it?

19:52SPEAKER- That's it?

19:53SPEAKER- I mean, 50 miles is pretty high, Brad.

19:55SPEAKER- I guess, I looked up 250,000 feet.

20:00SPEAKER- Right, but I looked up the standard for low earth orbit

20:02SPEAKERbefore this and it's like 1200 miles.

20:04SPEAKER- Well, yeah, I mean, but low earth orbit is low,

20:06SPEAKERlike leaving is, so the question is,

20:09SPEAKERis going to space leaving the atmosphere

20:12SPEAKERor is, or most of the, 'cause like theoretically,

20:15SPEAKERthere's a few molecules of atmosphere

20:16SPEAKERup where that ISS is, right?

20:19SPEAKER- Yeah, I think, yeah, I think if you've,

20:22SPEAKERif you've escaped the atmosphere

20:24SPEAKERto any reasonably low density,

20:26SPEAKERI think you're probably there, anecdotally.

20:29SPEAKER- I feel like, yeah, if you're talking about molecules

20:32SPEAKERversus air density, you know, you're, you know,

20:36SPEAKERleaving the troposphere or whatever that counts.

20:38SPEAKER- Oh, excuse me, even intergalactic space

20:41SPEAKERis not a true vacuum, thank you.

20:44SPEAKERThere is technically matter out there, thank you.

20:47SPEAKER- So, so let's see in 2015, I think, hold on.

20:53SPEAKEROh, 2005 rather, NASA gave X-15 pilots who flew the,

20:59SPEAKERthey describe it as the radical X-15 rocket plane

21:02SPEAKERout of the atmosphere.

21:03SPEAKERThe X-15 is my favorite of the X planes for the record,

21:06SPEAKERfollowed closely by the X-29,

21:08SPEAKERthe one with the backwards wings.

21:09SPEAKERIt was a, seems like it was a constant crash risk

21:12SPEAKER'cause the computers weren't fast enough.

21:15SPEAKERThey, the X-15 pilots who went above 50 miles

21:19SPEAKERgot hit the threshold.

21:20SPEAKERHowever, I don't think,

21:24SPEAKERI think that Bezos and Branson's flights were bullshit.

21:28SPEAKER- I mean, they were bullshit for a lot of reasons,

21:29SPEAKERbut go on. - Fair.

21:32SPEAKER- I don't think, again, 21st century,

21:36SPEAKERI don't think suborbital, like in 1950, 1960,

21:40SPEAKERsure, suborbital flights, that counts.

21:42SPEAKER- To be honest, that's the true reason

21:44SPEAKERI took this question is so we could mock these assholes,

21:48SPEAKERstupid billionaires spent all this money,

21:51SPEAKERdidn't even reach low Earth orbit.

21:52SPEAKER- Didn't even do an orbit.

21:53SPEAKER- Right. - Yo, dawg,

21:54SPEAKERmaybe next time orbit the Earth twice

21:56SPEAKERlike John Glenn did in 1962.

21:58SPEAKER- Get John Glenn on the phone.

21:59SPEAKER- I think John Glenn is dead with the camera.

22:01SPEAKER- Yes, he passed.

22:02SPEAKERHe passed a short number, a couple, three years ago.

22:06SPEAKER- Yeah, I met him once in an elevator in the Capitol.

22:09SPEAKER- Did you really?

22:09SPEAKER- I wrote in an elevator.

22:10SPEAKERI didn't, like I said, I thanked him for his service

22:12SPEAKERand wrote in an elevator with him.

22:14SPEAKER- He seemed like a fine human being

22:15SPEAKERfrom everything I read about his stances on things.

22:19SPEAKER- His, he was very, he like shook my hand.

22:23SPEAKERSo it took a moment to say something nice

22:26SPEAKERand to have a good conversation.

22:28SPEAKER- It seemed like a real humanitarian kind of,

22:29SPEAKERbut we talked about that before though,

22:31SPEAKERlike so many of those astronauts came back

22:32SPEAKERfrom those missions with that kind of perspective.

22:35SPEAKER- A little bit different.

22:36SPEAKER- Yeah. - Yeah.

22:37SPEAKER- Who would have thought?

22:38SPEAKERHas anyone except Apollo astronauts ever exceeded?

22:45SPEAKER- Low Earth? - Yeah.

22:47SPEAKER- Not really.

22:48SPEAKER- I'm trying to think that there have been

22:48SPEAKERno other missions that would have taken anybody

22:50SPEAKERout that far, right?

22:51SPEAKER- Well, like the, there were some shuttle missions

22:53SPEAKERthat went far, I guess, into low Earth, right?

22:56SPEAKERBut like the Hubble's still in low Earth orbit, right?

22:59SPEAKER- Right, right.

23:00SPEAKER- And like the Hubble servicing mission

23:02SPEAKERwas I think one of the further missions

23:05SPEAKERthat they did with that.

23:06SPEAKERBut no, Apollo astronauts are it.

23:08SPEAKERAnd so, except for the people that got, you know,

23:10SPEAKERexcept for the people that got picked up by the others.

23:14SPEAKER- Of course, of course.

23:14SPEAKERWe don't talk about that though.

23:16SPEAKER- I mean, it's, well, you know, they released this,

23:19SPEAKERthe, at some point we should talk about

23:22SPEAKERthe recent spate of UFO activity.

23:27SPEAKERMaybe, it might be too close.

23:29SPEAKER- Yes, perhaps. - Maybe too close

23:30SPEAKERto race stance territory.

23:31SPEAKER- Any maps, perhaps.

23:35SPEAKERI wonder if we'll see any manned missions anytime soon.

23:38SPEAKERMeaning crew missions?

23:40SPEAKER10 years, yes, in the next like 10 years or whatever.

23:45SPEAKER- Beyond low Earth orbit?

23:47SPEAKER- Yeah.

23:48SPEAKER- I mean, they're saying they're gonna send people

23:48SPEAKERto the moon on the boondoggle rocket.

23:51SPEAKER- Well, I know that's what I mean though.

23:52SPEAKERThey're constantly saying things like that.

23:54SPEAKERThe follow through is the thing that's often missing.

23:57SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't know.

23:59SPEAKER- I mean, there are a lot of senators

24:00SPEAKERthat really like paying for that stuff

24:01SPEAKERso they can keep a lot of jobs in the district.

24:03SPEAKERSo we'll see.

24:04SPEAKER- Yeah, it's true.

24:06SPEAKEROkay, next question from Brother Christian.

24:11SPEAKERWhat's your favorite or best flea market find?

24:14SPEAKERAs a kid in the '90s, flea markets were a regular

24:16SPEAKERweekend family event for me.

24:18SPEAKERA golden age before everything became collectible,

24:21SPEAKERthat is expensive and fake.

24:23SPEAKERThere was something for everyone,

24:24SPEAKERhunting knives, glass candy dishes, bootlegs, old tech,

24:28SPEAKERand older tools for my grandfather to look at.

24:31SPEAKERMy personal favorite was a guy selling voting machines

24:33SPEAKERused in Florida during the 2000 presidential election,

24:37SPEAKERhanging Chad demonstration and all.

24:39SPEAKER- Wow.

24:41SPEAKER- That's not how I expected that question to end.

24:45SPEAKERI wonder how much they were.

24:47SPEAKER- I can't imagine.

24:48SPEAKER- Those things are huge, right?

24:49SPEAKERLike you wouldn't--

24:49SPEAKER- They're big, yeah.

24:50SPEAKER- Like you really want to be devoted to one of those

24:52SPEAKERbefore you decide to take them home.

24:53SPEAKER- No, isn't that the one that just has the probe

24:54SPEAKERthat you poke through the punch out holes?

24:56SPEAKER- Oh, maybe, maybe the actual machine

24:58SPEAKERis not the whole like stall,

25:00SPEAKERI assume that you step into necessarily.

25:05SPEAKER- I always used to look for video games.

25:07SPEAKERSo the times when I spent the most time in flea markets

25:10SPEAKERwould have been like the late, mid to late '80s probably,

25:13SPEAKERlike when I was 10 to 15 or 20.

25:15SPEAKER- Sure.

25:16SPEAKER- That'd be early '90s.

25:17SPEAKERAnd like at that point you could still find,

25:19SPEAKERwell, in the beginning of that time period,

25:21SPEAKERyou would find like Atari 2600 cartridges

25:24SPEAKERand old Coleco stuff that didn't have any way to play.

25:26SPEAKER- Sure.

25:27SPEAKER- And toward the end of that time,

25:28SPEAKERyou would start seeing some NES cartridges.

25:30SPEAKER- Ooh.

25:31SPEAKER- And NES cartridges,

25:33SPEAKERanytime I saw NES cartridges, I would do a pass.

25:35SPEAKER- What kind of prices are we talking here?

25:37SPEAKER- Like two bucks.

25:38SPEAKER- Wow.

25:39SPEAKER- A buck, two bucks.

25:39SPEAKER- Geez, at that time, that's a hell of a deal.

25:41SPEAKER- In the '80s in Bristol, NES stuff was undervalued.

25:47SPEAKER- I'm trying to think, like we definitely,

25:49SPEAKERI definitely also ended up at, you know,

25:50SPEAKERshout out to Smiley's Flea Market,

25:52SPEAKERbut not exactly like big tech hubs

25:57SPEAKERin that part of the country for me.

25:58SPEAKERDid not find a lot of techie stuff there necessarily.

26:00SPEAKER- If you wanted a hoe, you could get a hoe.

26:02SPEAKERLike the kind that you rake your garden with,

26:04SPEAKERnot the other guy.

26:05SPEAKER- I always enjoyed looking at the old stereo equipment.

26:07SPEAKERLike I would never actually buy any of it

26:09SPEAKER'cause I'd be too worried it was non-functional,

26:12SPEAKERbut it's fun to see a bunch of like '70s

26:14SPEAKERbrushed metal at the time kind of gear.

26:16SPEAKER- There was a guy that sold mechanical cash,

26:18SPEAKERlike mechanical adding machines at Fleaners,

26:21SPEAKERwhich we used to go to, but I used to go to my grandfather.

26:24SPEAKERAnd the Fleaners, he wouldn't,

26:28SPEAKERhis cash registers were strictly do not touch.

26:31SPEAKERI mean, he's adding machines.

26:33SPEAKERYou weren't allowed, 'cause you could jam the registers

26:34SPEAKERif you push too many buttons at once.

26:36SPEAKER- Sure.

26:37SPEAKER- I also got a copy of Led Zeppelin III on cassette

26:40SPEAKERat a Flea Market one time.

26:41SPEAKERWhich, I mean, just to be clear, good find.

26:44SPEAKERThat was a good find.

26:45SPEAKER- It's not bad.

26:48SPEAKERI like, these days I like coffee mugs.

26:51SPEAKERI have too many coffee mugs.

26:52SPEAKER- So do I, but.

26:54SPEAKER- You have hangers for your coffee mugs, don't you?

26:55SPEAKER- It's a good excuse to get rid of some.

26:57SPEAKERYeah, we do have things to hang mugs on,

26:59SPEAKERbut we have 30 coffee mugs for two people.

27:03SPEAKER- How many, how much coffee are you drinking, Brad?

27:05SPEAKER- That's not a lot, you know.

27:09SPEAKERAlso, I'd say maybe a fifth of those

27:12SPEAKERare in frequent rotation.

27:14SPEAKER- My- - You should probably

27:15SPEAKERget rid of some of those.

27:16SPEAKER- I bought a coffee mug when I went to Disney World

27:19SPEAKERin seventh grade, and my mom sent it to me.

27:23SPEAKERAnd when you pick it up,

27:24SPEAKERit plays the Mickey Mouse Club theme from the '50s.

27:28SPEAKER- Is it mechanical?

27:30SPEAKER- It's got a little piezo speaker.

27:33SPEAKER- Okay.

27:34SPEAKER- And there's like a hidden compartment

27:36SPEAKERin the bottom of the mug.

27:38SPEAKERSo like the mug has a false floor, basically,

27:40SPEAKERthat comes in the bottom and is glued into place.

27:43SPEAKERAnd it still works 40 years later.

27:45SPEAKER- It has a battery, I assume?

27:47SPEAKER- It apparently has like a battery,

27:49SPEAKERlike a watch battery or something in there.

27:49SPEAKER- That's incredible.

27:51SPEAKER- It is amazing.

27:52SPEAKER- I mean, I know watch batteries last a long time,

27:54SPEAKERbut geez.

27:55SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, if the watch battery dies,

27:58SPEAKERI mean, we haven't showed it to my daughter

28:01SPEAKER'cause it will haunt us if we do.

28:05SPEAKERBut yeah, it was my favorite mug for a long time.

28:06SPEAKER- That's pretty cool.

28:08SPEAKERI am eternally jealous of your,

28:11SPEAKERhave we talked about this?

28:12SPEAKERYour Aperture Science '70s mug?

28:14SPEAKER- Oh man.

28:15SPEAKER- I had passed, I had the chance to buy one of those.

28:18SPEAKERI bought a bunch of valve mugs.

28:20SPEAKER- Oh, the brown one or the white one?

28:22SPEAKER- The brown one.

28:23SPEAKER- Yeah, the brown one's the best mug of all time.

28:24SPEAKER- I bought every portal mug they had, except for that one.

28:27SPEAKER- Oh, you fucked up, man.

28:28SPEAKER- And that's the only one,

28:30SPEAKERone or both of the others have broken at this point,

28:32SPEAKERbut that's the only one I actually want in this day and age

28:34SPEAKERand is so long out of production, it's impossible to find.

28:37SPEAKER- My TF2 red blue mug has worn out.

28:40SPEAKER- I bought that one too.

28:42SPEAKER- Yeah, like the colors are worn off of it.

28:44SPEAKERI put it to the dishwasher so much.

28:46SPEAKER- You can't dishwash those things.

28:48SPEAKER- It's a mug, Brad.

28:49SPEAKER- It deserves to be used, man.

28:52SPEAKER- My '60s Aperture Science one is a '50s, '60s one.

28:55SPEAKERThe blue and white one is still strong.

28:56SPEAKER- The big, like the really giant,

28:58SPEAKERlike you're working on the Manhattan Project,

29:00SPEAKERlike just like clog rib on that giant handle.

29:04SPEAKER- It'd be like head over to the bun

29:05SPEAKERand pour some mud in there.

29:07SPEAKER- Yes, I've got that.

29:09SPEAKERThat one's great.

29:10SPEAKERI enjoy that one quite a bit, but.

29:11SPEAKER- But the brown one is perfect for cocoa.

29:15SPEAKERIt's exactly the right size for that.

29:16SPEAKER- It's exactly the right size of mug for

29:19SPEAKERwhatever hot beverage I, every so often,

29:21SPEAKERI just go out there searching every which way,

29:24SPEAKERtrying to find one of those things.

29:24SPEAKER- But you may alert up to that, they'll come out.

29:26SPEAKER- I've looked and looked and looked

29:29SPEAKERand I just don't think it's possible.

29:30SPEAKER- That style of mug is also widely available

29:33SPEAKERif you just want the mug without the Aperture Science on it.

29:35SPEAKER- But I really like that '70s sunrise

29:37SPEAKERkind of pattern on there, it's.

29:39SPEAKER- That mug is the kind of mug they had

29:41SPEAKERat Waffle House when I was a kid.

29:44SPEAKER- Okay, sure.

29:45SPEAKER- It's that same shape.

29:45SPEAKER- Yes, that's probably, yes,

29:46SPEAKERthere is a diner-esque quality to it.

29:48SPEAKERNow that you mention it.

29:49SPEAKER- It is a '70s diner mug.

29:50SPEAKER- I had not thought about that.

29:51SPEAKER- And then the beautiful thing about it

29:52SPEAKERis it's exactly the right size for the amount of coffee

29:55SPEAKERyou can drink before it gets cold.

29:57SPEAKER- Yes, exactly.

29:58SPEAKER- If it comes out nuclear hot.

29:59SPEAKER- That is another reason I wanted.

30:00SPEAKERHere, yeah, I'm on eBay, once again.

30:02SPEAKER- It's a good mug.

30:03SPEAKER- Search Aperture Science mug,

30:04SPEAKERthey have like every one ever made except for that one.

30:07SPEAKER- So Fitz, friend of the site Fitz,

30:09SPEAKERfriend of the pod Fitz gave me a mug,

30:12SPEAKER'cause he's a potter.

30:13SPEAKER- We talked about it.

30:14SPEAKER- He gave me a mug, which that mug replaced

30:17SPEAKERthe Aperture mug as my favorite mug.

30:19SPEAKER- Mm, if you're looking to get rid of that Aperture mug.

30:21SPEAKER- I don't know, man, we can maybe come to an arrangement.

30:25SPEAKER- Let's discuss a fair price.

30:29SPEAKERCan I talk about, I'm sorry,

30:31SPEAKERwe're not gonna get through all these questions.

30:32SPEAKERCan I talk about Paizo speakers for just a second?

30:34SPEAKER- Yeah, of course.

30:35SPEAKER- Have we talked about that?

30:36SPEAKER- I mean, I think they're interesting.

30:38SPEAKERThey don't come up that often anymore, it turns out.

30:39SPEAKER- It occurred to me, I think it was in reading

30:42SPEAKERthe old ass computers channel on the Discord at one point,

30:46SPEAKERit occurred to me that PC speaker headers

30:48SPEAKERare still on every motherboard.

30:49SPEAKER- Yep.

30:50SPEAKER- And nobody does anything with them.

30:51SPEAKER- You can still buy a Paizo speaker to jam out of those.

30:53SPEAKER- At one point I was like,

30:55SPEAKERwhy don't I just put a speaker in there?

30:56SPEAKERAnd then I can hear that delightful single beep

30:58SPEAKERevery time the computer successfully posts.

31:00SPEAKER- Did you do it yet?

31:01SPEAKER- 'Cause not yet, so here's why.

31:03SPEAKER- You're gonna remember why really quickly.

31:05SPEAKER- No, I want that.

31:07SPEAKERLike it doesn't feel the same booting a computer

31:09SPEAKERwithout the beep.

31:11SPEAKER- I guess.

31:12SPEAKER- I also, I mean, like if you really wanna get down to it,

31:14SPEAKERnot that I have a lot of boot trouble,

31:16SPEAKERbut like you do get the error codes through that speaker

31:18SPEAKERthat can be helpful.

31:19SPEAKER- I have a little screen on my motherboard that's like C7.

31:22SPEAKER- I don't have that, so.

31:24SPEAKER- And then I go to the internet and it's like,

31:25SPEAKERyou need to buy a new motherboard

31:26SPEAKER'cause that's what it means every fucking time

31:27SPEAKERthat I need to look at the error code.

31:28SPEAKER- Right, but it's more for the kitschy nostalgia factor

31:33SPEAKERthan the functional information from error codes thing.

31:36SPEAKER- I played Wolfenstein and Doom with only that speaker.

31:39SPEAKERSee, thankfully I missed the era of not having a sound card.

31:43SPEAKER- Oh man, it was bad times.

31:45SPEAKER- Sound Blaster 16s were ubiquitous

31:47SPEAKERby the time we got a computer.

31:48SPEAKER- Yeah, I paid 200 bucks for a Sound Blaster,

31:51SPEAKER250 bucks for a Sound Blaster,

31:53SPEAKERplus a 1X MPC 1.0 capable CD-ROM drive.

31:57SPEAKER- Boy, boy.

31:59SPEAKER- It was rolling heavy.

32:00SPEAKER- So I was on the verge of buying,

32:02SPEAKERin fact, not just a Paizo speaker.

32:04SPEAKERI mean, you can get them in like 10 packs on Amazon for $7.

32:08SPEAKERThe main thing is everybody complains they're too quiet

32:10SPEAKERand tinny and just don't sound good.

32:12SPEAKER- No shit.

32:13SPEAKER- So here's my-

32:16SPEAKER- You're gonna plug seven of them into your motherboard?

32:18SPEAKER- Oh, here's my upgrade plan is that

32:21SPEAKERmy parents don't get rid of a lot of stuff.

32:24SPEAKERWell, they're not whores, they get rid of plenty of stuff,

32:26SPEAKERbut things like old computers end up in the basement.

32:28SPEAKER- Yeah.

32:29SPEAKER- 'Cause they have a ton of-

32:30SPEAKER- Yeah, they turn into new computers down there.

32:32SPEAKER- They have a ton of storage space,

32:34SPEAKERso things like old computers.

32:36SPEAKERPoint being, there are at least like two '90s-era

32:39SPEAKERold PC cases in my parents' basement.

32:43SPEAKERNext time I'm out there, I'm gonna harvest speakers,

32:45SPEAKER'cause those are the legit-

32:47SPEAKER- They have a cone.

32:48SPEAKER- Those are actual cone speakers.

32:49SPEAKERLike I'm gonna get the real ass cone PC speakers

32:52SPEAKERout of those things, and then I'm gonna-

32:54SPEAKER- You can buy those too, I bet.

32:56SPEAKER- Think so?

32:57SPEAKERLike of an appropriate size?

32:59SPEAKER- Yeah, well, the trick with the Paizo

33:00SPEAKERis you have to stick it onto the computer case someplace

33:02SPEAKERso it resonates through the middle of the case.

33:04SPEAKER- Right, I want more.

33:06SPEAKER- Okay, I support you in all of your endeavors, Brad,

33:10SPEAKERbut this one's a bad idea.

33:12SPEAKER- Maybe you could get a nice little cone speaker on some-

33:15SPEAKER- You can absolutely, I guarantee you,

33:16SPEAKERyou can go to AliExpress and buy like 50

33:18SPEAKERof those little cone speakers with the right header.

33:20SPEAKER- Might have to, oh, with the header?

33:21SPEAKERI was gonna say, I thought you might have to solder

33:23SPEAKERthe header, like you can just put the header on,

33:25SPEAKERit's no problem, but you can probably get 'em

33:27SPEAKERwith the header.

33:28SPEAKERSomebody is using those, they're probably in like,

33:30SPEAKERactually, I know exactly where they're,

33:31SPEAKERthey're in kids' toys.

33:32SPEAKER- Okay, all right, I'm gonna go speaker harvesting

33:35SPEAKERafter this.

33:35SPEAKER- Okay, go get a VTech kid talk, like alphabet box,

33:39SPEAKERand you'll get all the speakers you need.

33:41SPEAKER- Yeah, this is a weird one.

33:45SPEAKERI wonder if you have any ideas.

33:47SPEAKERI wonder if you have any ideas about this,

33:48SPEAKER'cause I sure don't.

33:50SPEAKERFrom Joshington, deep breath.

33:54SPEAKERCan you guys think of a reason why approaching

33:56SPEAKERan open flame would cause my phone and Bluetooth headphones

33:59SPEAKERto stop playback?

34:01SPEAKERIt was like something pressed pause every time

34:03SPEAKERI approached a small bonfire I had going today

34:06SPEAKERwhile doing some yard work.

34:07SPEAKERIn case it matters, I had my iPhone 12 in my pocket

34:10SPEAKERand was wearing Apple's AirPods Max.

34:13SPEAKER- Was it an industrial fire?

34:15SPEAKERWas there like heavy metal in the fire?

34:17SPEAKER- A small bonfire.

34:20SPEAKERDo you have any ideas?

34:21SPEAKER- Okay, so there's another question that kind of relates

34:22SPEAKERto this that's down there.

34:24SPEAKER- Okay.

34:25SPEAKER- This one's from Brandon League, Braden League, sorry.

34:28SPEAKERHe says, there's a block I walk down somewhat regularly

34:31SPEAKERand my AirPods cut out momentarily, seemingly without fail

34:33SPEAKERevery time I walk down a certain street.

34:35SPEAKERWhat's going on here, some crazy microwaves

34:36SPEAKERor is it possible there's another Bluetooth device

34:38SPEAKERin the area on the same channel?

34:40SPEAKER- Oh, that reminds, let me throw my own question in here.

34:42SPEAKER- Yeah, 'cause I know exactly what you're gonna ask

34:44SPEAKER'cause it happens to me too.

34:45SPEAKER- I bet you do, in the before time

34:48SPEAKERwhen we commuted downtown.

34:49SPEAKER- Uh-huh.

34:50SPEAKER- Waiting at Crosswalks, my Bluetooth headphones

34:52SPEAKERwould cut out all the time.

34:54SPEAKER- It's not even at Crosswalks,

34:55SPEAKERthere's a specific intersection.

34:57SPEAKERWhen you come up out of Barton Muni at Second and Market.

35:01SPEAKER- Yes, that was one of the chief, it's not the only one,

35:04SPEAKERit would happen elsewhere

35:05SPEAKERbut that was probably the worst spot for it.

35:06SPEAKER- Every Bluetooth headset I've ever had, conks out,

35:10SPEAKERwalking out of Muni into the old giant bomb offices

35:12SPEAKERat the CBSI building.

35:14SPEAKER- Yeah.

35:15SPEAKER- So yeah, I would guess either,

35:20SPEAKERso okay, sometimes radio interference is caused

35:23SPEAKERby weird things like a giant iron deposit under the ground.

35:27SPEAKER- Okay, sure.

35:28SPEAKER- That's the mystery spot down in San Jose,

35:31SPEAKERyou see the bumper stickers for it.

35:32SPEAKERThat's always been my assumption is what that is,

35:34SPEAKERis like lodestone or iron or something

35:36SPEAKERthat's like mechanically, sorry.

35:38SPEAKER- Magnetically.

35:39SPEAKER- Magnetically active.

35:39SPEAKER- Yeah.

35:41SPEAKER- I think that the places in the city that do that

35:44SPEAKERare because of radio interference.

35:46SPEAKERI think that there's probably some sort of radio source

35:50SPEAKERthere at like that intersection at Second and Market

35:53SPEAKERthat's powerful enough that it's just overrunning.

35:56SPEAKER'Cause the thing about all of the unlicensed spectrum radio

35:58SPEAKERstuff like Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and all that,

36:00SPEAKERis it's designed to fail over rather than interfere

36:04SPEAKERwith the stuff that is actually licensed

36:05SPEAKERthat operates in the same areas or an adjacent spectrum.

36:08SPEAKER- Right, if they're trying to collect traffic data

36:11SPEAKERor something that is more important

36:12SPEAKERthan you listening to your podcast.

36:14SPEAKER- Yeah, so that's where the Watcher Pod is.

36:15SPEAKERThat's where they're watching us.

36:17SPEAKER- Yep.

36:18SPEAKER- No, I mean, I would love to know.

36:23SPEAKERI once saw a guy who was doing the phone testing.

36:27SPEAKERLike if you ever see a guy with like eight smartphones

36:29SPEAKERon a rack all hooked up to the same antenna

36:32SPEAKERand a computer hooked up to them all,

36:34SPEAKERthey're doing like network testing to see how,

36:36SPEAKERlike looking for dead spots in the network

36:38SPEAKERand looking for speeds and stuff like that.

36:40SPEAKERI asked him about this 'cause I figured he would know.

36:42SPEAKERAnd he was like, they just tell me to come here

36:43SPEAKERand run the machine.

36:46SPEAKERSo he didn't know.

36:47SPEAKERBut if you're a radio engineer

36:48SPEAKERand you know the answer to this,

36:49SPEAKERplease send it in to techpod@content.town

36:52SPEAKERbecause I would love to know what the potential causes are.

36:56SPEAKER- God, I haven't turned those Bluetooth headphones on

36:58SPEAKERin a year and a half at this point.

36:59SPEAKER- Well, that's probably great for the battery.

37:01SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm sure.

37:02SPEAKER- Maybe charge them up to like halfway and see how it goes.

37:05SPEAKER- There's, do you miss any of that?

37:08SPEAKERI don't miss like working in an office necessarily

37:11SPEAKERand I don't miss like the annoying parts of commuting,

37:14SPEAKERbut I miss the bustle and the people watching aspect.

37:17SPEAKERHave we talked about that?

37:18SPEAKERI may be repeating myself.

37:19SPEAKER- No, I liked, like honestly,

37:22SPEAKERas somebody who lives in a house that's always full,

37:25SPEAKERI really liked going and getting on a train

37:28SPEAKERand having like 40 minutes where I could read a book

37:30SPEAKERor do something with headphones on that was quiet

37:34SPEAKERand I knew nobody would bother me,

37:36SPEAKERexcept for maybe a stabby homeless guy.

37:38SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, that's not the worst aspect of commuting,

37:40SPEAKERat least in the city, is being able to read or something

37:42SPEAKER'cause you don't have to drive.

37:43SPEAKERObviously, people who have to drive, commuting is less fun.

37:45SPEAKER- Yeah.

37:46SPEAKER- But I mean, for me,

37:47SPEAKERit's more than just being out in the world

37:49SPEAKERand seeing all these people going to and fro.

37:51SPEAKERLike it just feels, I don't know, feels busy.

37:54SPEAKER- I've started going on more regular walks.

37:56SPEAKERI had done that with the beginning and then I stopped.

37:59SPEAKER- Yeah, we do that all the time,

38:00SPEAKERbut you can only range so far that way.

38:03SPEAKER- Yeah, I guess that's true.

38:05SPEAKER- Yeah.

38:06SPEAKER- I'm jealous of city walk people.

38:07SPEAKERLike you have a lot of different routes where you live.

38:09SPEAKERWhere I live, I have like three, maybe four,

38:11SPEAKERbut they're pretty much overlapped,

38:13SPEAKERso they all eventually end up as the same route.

38:15SPEAKER- Yeah, we can be in the Presidio in 10 minutes,

38:18SPEAKER15 minutes from here, which is a very nice wooded area.

38:22SPEAKER- Watch out for coyotes.

38:23SPEAKER- Yes, the signs are everywhere.

38:24SPEAKERThere are all these places up there

38:26SPEAKERyou were not supposed to take dogs

38:27SPEAKERbecause there are coyotes about.

38:30SPEAKER- Brad, my dad has adopted a fox.

38:35SPEAKER- Whoa.

38:36SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, he doesn't like live in the house with him

38:38SPEAKERor anything weird, but the fox had mange.

38:41SPEAKERSo he asked a friend who's a vet

38:43SPEAKERand the vet was like, "Just give him the dog mange stuff.

38:45SPEAKERHere's what you give him."

38:46SPEAKERAnd he gave him some,

38:47SPEAKERput it in a hot dog and throw it out there for him.

38:49SPEAKERSo now the fox doesn't have mange.

38:50SPEAKERAnd also the fox loves hot dogs and my father.

38:53SPEAKER- The dog knows where to, I mean the dog,

38:55SPEAKERthe fox knows where to get hot dogs.

38:56SPEAKER- Yeah, the fox knows what's up.

38:58SPEAKERFoxes are cool.

39:00SPEAKER- Are they?

39:00SPEAKER- I like, look, if you have chickens,

39:03SPEAKERI'm sure you have different feelings about foxes than I do.

39:06SPEAKER- Sure.

39:06SPEAKER- But like, he sends pictures and videos of the fox.

39:09SPEAKERHe's named it.

39:10SPEAKERIt comes when he calls.

39:11SPEAKER- Wait, what's the fox named?

39:13SPEAKER- Fox's name is Zorro.

39:15SPEAKER- Who's Zorro?

39:16SPEAKER- Zorro, like the sword guy from the Disney channel.

39:20SPEAKERNo, I'm familiar, yes.

39:23SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway.

39:25SPEAKER- Okay, another question, perhaps.

39:29SPEAKERHow about...

39:31SPEAKER- Should we do that one from Teddy and the Bardo?

39:33SPEAKER- Oh gosh, I'm not looking at that one.

39:35SPEAKERNow I have to find it, there it is.

39:36SPEAKER- Okay.

39:37SPEAKER- Teddy and the Bardo, opinions on tinned fish,

39:39SPEAKERsuch as sardines?

39:41SPEAKER- I love a tinned fish.

39:42SPEAKER- Do you?

39:43SPEAKER- I like smoked oysters, sardines,

39:47SPEAKERthose anchovy fillets that come in the tins.

39:49SPEAKER- Okay.

39:50SPEAKER- They're small, they're delicious.

39:51SPEAKER- I will confess half the reason I put this question in here

39:54SPEAKERbecause of the use of the word tinned.

39:56SPEAKER- Tinned is, yeah.

39:57SPEAKER- Which is very European, which I find delightful.

40:01SPEAKERWhat would we, how would we refer to those here?

40:03SPEAKER- Tinned fish.

40:04SPEAKER- Tinned, nobody says tinned.

40:05SPEAKER- That's what my mom always called them.

40:06SPEAKER- Yeah, but you have British in your family.

40:09SPEAKER- Well, I mean, yeah.

40:11SPEAKER- That's what I'm getting at.

40:13SPEAKER- Canned?

40:14SPEAKER- Canned?

40:14SPEAKER- Canned isn't really right either, I don't know.

40:16SPEAKERWe just call them sardines, I guess.

40:17SPEAKER- Yeah, sardines.

40:18SPEAKER- I don't like the herring fillets that come in cans,

40:21SPEAKERthey're gross.

40:21SPEAKER- Herring.

40:23SPEAKER- They're like little, I don't know.

40:25SPEAKER- I don't know that I know my tinned fish is well enough

40:27SPEAKERto tell them apart.

40:28SPEAKER- All I know is that like on a winter day,

40:31SPEAKERlike if we were home for a snow day,

40:33SPEAKERespecially if the power was out or something,

40:35SPEAKERwe couldn't really cook or like our cooking

40:37SPEAKERwas basically putting like stuff on the wood stove

40:40SPEAKERand like we would eat usually like an oatmeal for breakfast

40:44SPEAKERor something like that cooked on the stove.

40:47SPEAKERAnd then we would have something cold for lunch,

40:51SPEAKERlike Vienna sausages and crackers

40:52SPEAKERor smoked oysters on saltines, a lot of crackers.

40:57SPEAKER- Fancy lunch.

40:58SPEAKER- I don't think the smoked oysters are all that fancy,

41:00SPEAKERbut I feel like they were probably pretty cheap.

41:05SPEAKERAnd then, yeah, and then something warm for dinner,

41:07SPEAKERlike a stew or something for dinner

41:08SPEAKERthat was on the stove all day.

41:11SPEAKERI like a tinned fish.

41:12SPEAKER- What is the shelf life of your average tinned fish,

41:15SPEAKERI wonder?

41:16SPEAKER- Most preserved food is only good for about five years,

41:19SPEAKERaccording to the experts at NASA when we like,

41:23SPEAKEReven like anything that if you make it shelf stable,

41:26SPEAKERit starts to do weird shit after five years,

41:28SPEAKERwhich is a real problem for things like Mars missions.

41:31SPEAKER- Five years is pretty good for fish, I have to say.

41:33SPEAKER- I mean, but yeah, but think about like,

41:35SPEAKERyou want some fish in space?

41:37SPEAKER- No, I'm not going to space.

41:39SPEAKERDo I look like a billionaire to you?

41:41SPEAKER- I mean, I would, would you go to Mars?

41:43SPEAKER- Oh, fuck no.

41:44SPEAKER- Well, hold on, if NASA was recruiting people,

41:47SPEAKERwould you go to Mars?

41:48SPEAKER- No, not under any circumstances.

41:50SPEAKER- See, I think I would go if NASA was recruiting people,

41:53SPEAKERbut if Bezos is recruiting people, maybe.

41:57SPEAKERLike he's done some good stuff.

41:58SPEAKERLike the Washington Post, nice work, Bezos.

42:00SPEAKERKeeping that out of the hands of the enemy, that's good.

42:03SPEAKERBut if Musk was recruiting people to go to Mars,

42:06SPEAKERno, thank you.

42:06SPEAKER- I mean, that's a double no, but I mean,

42:08SPEAKERlike my assumption is if you're going to Mars,

42:11SPEAKERyou're very likely not coming back.

42:14SPEAKER- Fair.

42:15SPEAKER- I'm not, I'm not saying that they can't bring people back.

42:16SPEAKERI'm saying that the, the-

42:18SPEAKER- Yeah, it's probably a one way trip.

42:20SPEAKER- There is, yeah.

42:21SPEAKER- You gotta buy your ticket back.

42:22SPEAKERYou gotta start earning that ticket back, Brad.

42:24SPEAKER- Like the possibility space of things that could go wrong.

42:28SPEAKER- I mean, I- - Pretty big.

42:29SPEAKER- Yeah. - Pretty big.

42:30SPEAKER- But you get to walk on another planet.

42:32SPEAKERThat seems pretty cool.

42:33SPEAKER- I guess, I guess the thing for me is like,

42:34SPEAKERthe moon is like, what, three days away,

42:36SPEAKERsomething like that?

42:37SPEAKER- Yeah, you know, we're, we're actually on the 50th,

42:40SPEAKERas we record this,

42:41SPEAKERit's the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 15 mission.

42:43SPEAKER- Oh.

42:44SPEAKER- So apollo_50th on Twitter is, is replaying.

42:48SPEAKER- Oh, I should go check that out.

42:49SPEAKER- It's very good.

42:50SPEAKERThey replayed all of the logged-

42:51SPEAKER- Oh, I love communications. - Like, communications

42:53SPEAKERback and forth.

42:53SPEAKER- When they did that for Apollo 11.

42:55SPEAKER- They've done it for every Apollo mission.

42:57SPEAKER- Like I, I, I had that on like constantly

42:59SPEAKERon the second monitor.

43:00SPEAKERThat was so much fun.

43:01SPEAKER- Yeah, when that, when that comes up,

43:03SPEAKERbecause like a new thing is happening, it's great.

43:04SPEAKERI love it.

43:05SPEAKER'Cause you get to hear the conversations.

43:06SPEAKERAnyway.

43:07SPEAKER- Yeah, the, the, the real thing for me is like,

43:09SPEAKERon a moon, mission errors are potentially recoverable.

43:12SPEAKEROn a Mars mission, they are most likely not.

43:14SPEAKERLike things go wrong on a Mars mission,

43:16SPEAKERyou are so far gone, like that's it.

43:17SPEAKER- Once you leave low earth orbit, your recoverability,

43:20SPEAKERlike your, your help from the ground is only a moral and-

43:25SPEAKER- Yes, exactly. - And information.

43:27SPEAKER- It is, it is very much a go with God

43:29SPEAKERfrom ground control kind of thing.

43:31SPEAKER- Like something goes bad on the space station,

43:32SPEAKERyou get out of the, get out of the space station,

43:34SPEAKERyou hit the brakes.

43:35SPEAKERLike eventually you're going to come back to ground, right?

43:38SPEAKER- Yes.

43:39SPEAKER- Something goes bad on the way to the moon.

43:40SPEAKER- You might go to, you might make it back,

43:42SPEAKERyou might make it to the moon.

43:43SPEAKERYou might just fly off into space, who knows?

43:45SPEAKER- Maybe you can successfully slingshot your way around.

43:48SPEAKER- It worked for Jim Lovell.

43:49SPEAKER- Right.

43:50SPEAKERBut, yeah.

43:53SPEAKER- Yeah.

43:54SPEAKER- What is that?

43:54SPEAKERThat's a minimum two year trip, something like that.

43:58SPEAKER- Well, no, the moon's like three days.

43:59SPEAKER- No, no, no, Mars.

44:00SPEAKER- Oh, 18 months I think is the current thought.

44:04SPEAKERRound trip.

44:05SPEAKER- Yeah, that's too long.

44:07SPEAKER- I mean, I don't know.

44:08SPEAKER- If all your, if all your, if all your 10,

44:09SPEAKERif all your 10 fish is spaced accidentally,

44:12SPEAKERyou're in trouble.

44:13SPEAKER- Look, think about it this way.

44:15SPEAKERNow you just grow potatoes in your own poop and dirt.

44:18SPEAKERThink about it this way.

44:19SPEAKERIt's now July, almost August.

44:24SPEAKER- Yes.

44:25SPEAKER- We entered our houses in March.

44:26SPEAKERWe could have been almost back from Mars by now.

44:31SPEAKERIf our houses were a rocket ship.

44:33SPEAKER- I suppose that's true.

44:33SPEAKER- Like those spaceships will be bigger than my house.

44:36SPEAKERI can do this.

44:37SPEAKERI mean, I do go outside every few days.

44:39SPEAKER- Look, if you go to Mars, can I have your aperture mug?

44:42SPEAKER- Yes, absolutely.

44:43SPEAKER- Okay, all right.

44:45SPEAKERGlad we got this.

44:46SPEAKER- I'm burying that with me.

44:47SPEAKERI'm burying it on Mars with me.

44:48SPEAKER- I'm glad, I'm glad we've got this settled.

44:51SPEAKER- This is a win-win, Brad.

44:52SPEAKER- Yes.

44:55SPEAKERQuestion from, I apologize.

44:57SPEAKERI hope I'm getting your name right.

44:58SPEAKERTeixeira, J-R-T, I think is how you pronounce that.

45:02SPEAKER- Uh-huh.

45:03SPEAKER- Do you use, very important question.

45:06SPEAKERI almost left that out.

45:07SPEAKER- It's all caps.

45:08SPEAKER- It's in caps.

45:09SPEAKER- You gotta yell it.

45:10SPEAKER- Well, you shouldn't yell it, but.

45:11SPEAKER- It's so in all caps that I almost omitted it.

45:13SPEAKERVery important question.

45:15SPEAKERDo you use shadows under your mouse pointer?

45:18SPEAKER- What?

45:18SPEAKER- Yes, no.

45:19SPEAKERWhy?

45:20SPEAKER- You can still do that?

45:22SPEAKER- So I, when I took this question, I was like,

45:25SPEAKERyeah, of course I do.

45:26SPEAKERAnd then I actually looked and apparently I don't.

45:27SPEAKER- I haven't had shadows on my mouse pointer

45:29SPEAKERin a decade or two, probably.

45:31SPEAKER- I thought I did.

45:32SPEAKERI thought I did.

45:34SPEAKER- Wow, adjust mouse and cursor size.

45:36SPEAKERHold on.

45:37SPEAKER- Are you trying to find how to do it?

45:38SPEAKERDo you want the drop shadow?

45:40SPEAKER- Holy crap, you could do a colored cursor in windows now?

45:43SPEAKER- Wait, what?

45:44SPEAKERWhere are you looking?

45:45SPEAKER- My cursor's green and you can make a,

45:49SPEAKERI'm in mouse pointer.

45:50SPEAKER- Mouse pointer, I wanna see that.

45:52SPEAKERWait, which one?

45:53SPEAKERThere's like four different mouse dialogues

45:54SPEAKERand windows at the moment.

45:56SPEAKER- I went to mouse and then I went,

45:58SPEAKERscrolled all the way to the bottom.

45:59SPEAKERI went to adjust mouse and cursor size.

46:02SPEAKER- Okay.

46:03SPEAKEROh, what?

46:04SPEAKER- Yeah, that's what I said.

46:06SPEAKER- Oh, wow.

46:06SPEAKER- I don't think, oh, additional mouse settings

46:08SPEAKERat the bottom of that one.

46:09SPEAKERNo, that's not where it was.

46:10SPEAKER- Custom color.

46:12SPEAKERI don't see anything about drop shadow here though.

46:14SPEAKERI know where that is.

46:15SPEAKERThat's in.

46:16SPEAKER- Mouse, it's in the mouse control panel.

46:18SPEAKER- Yes, that is.

46:19SPEAKER- I don't see it there.

46:20SPEAKEROh, enable pointer shadow.

46:21SPEAKERHold on, apply.

46:22SPEAKERWhat does this look like?

46:25SPEAKER- Oh, I see that.

46:26SPEAKERYes, enable pointer shadow.

46:27SPEAKEROh, now I have a drop shadow.

46:29SPEAKERNow I have a drop shadow on the mouse.

46:30SPEAKERI'm not sure.

46:31SPEAKEROh, I'm not sure which I prefer.

46:34SPEAKER- I like it better without leaner, flatter.

46:37SPEAKER- Yeah, I do like flat.

46:38SPEAKERI don't need that illusion of height anymore.

46:40SPEAKER- I do kind of enjoy flat.

46:41SPEAKERI think we've discussed this before.

46:43SPEAKERAnytime it's one of my first things

46:45SPEAKERin a new Windows install is to go turn off

46:47SPEAKERall of the window and menu animations.

46:50SPEAKER- Really?

46:51SPEAKERThey just snap out?

46:52SPEAKER- Yes.

46:52SPEAKERI know I've said this exact thing on this podcast before,

46:55SPEAKERbut I want every minimize and menu open

46:58SPEAKERand any window action to be one frame in length.

47:01SPEAKERI want it to happen the second that I input.

47:05SPEAKER- This is shocking.

47:06SPEAKER- Yes, I'm sure.

47:07SPEAKER- No, I do not use mouse shadows under my mouse pointer.

47:11SPEAKER- Again, I thought I did, but when I do at the moment,

47:13SPEAKERI just turned it on, but we'll see how long it lasts.

47:15SPEAKER- My resolution's high enough that I don't know

47:17SPEAKERthat I would even be able to see it really.

47:19SPEAKERI could even really see it when it was on.

47:20SPEAKERAlso, I might change the color though.

47:21SPEAKERThat's cool.

47:22SPEAKERI could do that.

47:23SPEAKER- It's not universal.

47:24SPEAKERI'm mousing all over the place.

47:25SPEAKERLike in this Google doc in Audacity,

47:27SPEAKERlike any kind of I-beam or like custom cursor

47:29SPEAKERdoes not get the drop shadow.

47:30SPEAKER- Yeah, no.

47:31SPEAKER- It's just the arrow.

47:33SPEAKER- That's the real reason is my experience is

47:35SPEAKERonce you move off of the hardware accelerated mouse cursor,

47:37SPEAKERthen shit gets weird in windows.

47:39SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

47:40SPEAKER- So that's why I'm not, why I don't do it.

47:42SPEAKER- Yeah.

47:44SPEAKERCouple more real quick.

47:45SPEAKER- Yeah, sure.

47:46SPEAKERI got time.

47:47SPEAKER- Maxist Views asks, what's a good router to buy nowadays?

47:50SPEAKERShould I be looking into the Ubiquiti stuff

47:52SPEAKERand locking myself in?

47:54SPEAKERI'm someone who likes a nice UI,

47:55SPEAKERbut I also want things to work very well.

47:57SPEAKER- And I just walked this road.

47:58SPEAKER- I had got, first of all,

48:01SPEAKERwe are beyond overdue on the Scene Drama episode.

48:05SPEAKER- Should we just do it about the Ubiquiti stuff?

48:07SPEAKER- I mean, I'm frustrated that we didn't get it done.

48:10SPEAKERWe didn't strike when the drama was hot

48:13SPEAKERbecause there was a period

48:14SPEAKERwhere drama was popping off like weekly.

48:16SPEAKERAnd I feel like all that stuff's gotten a little stale.

48:18SPEAKERWe can still go back and revisit it.

48:19SPEAKER- Sometimes it's good to have a cool off period.

48:22SPEAKERSo you really see the impact of the Scene Drama.

48:23SPEAKER- Like there's Ubiquiti Drama, there was PF Sense Drama.

48:26SPEAKERThere was, I had a list.

48:28SPEAKER- Mr. Drama?

48:29SPEAKER- Can't, yeah, yes.

48:30SPEAKER- Mr. Drama, that just take up stuff.

48:32SPEAKER- There was Mr. Drama.

48:33SPEAKER- People got heated about RAM.

48:34SPEAKERAlso, I'm not really sure what the Scene Drama episode is.

48:38SPEAKERIs it us reading the angry posts?

48:40SPEAKER- I think it's us breaking down the drama of the scene.

48:42SPEAKER- Yeah, you gotta explain what happened.

48:45SPEAKER- If you have ideas about the Scene Drama episode

48:46SPEAKERthat we foolishly mentioned

48:49SPEAKERas a reward for hitting 2,000 patrons,

48:52SPEAKERand then we blew through that goal almost immediately

48:54SPEAKERwithout having time to think about it, we would welcome them.

48:57SPEAKER- It's still gonna happen.

48:58SPEAKER- In retrospect, for our 3,000 goal episode,

49:03SPEAKERwe're gonna think about that one.

49:04SPEAKER- And then suggest something else.

49:07SPEAKER- We just need to do the digging.

49:08SPEAKERIt's not an insurmountable problem.

49:11SPEAKER- I just don't know how to make it interesting,

49:12SPEAKER'cause it's just, Scene Drama always makes,

49:14SPEAKERthe problem is Scene Drama often makes me sad

49:16SPEAKERinstead of, like I liked this podcast

49:19SPEAKERto leave people feeling happy,

49:21SPEAKERand Scene Drama is an inherently sad topic.

49:23SPEAKER- You don't wanna contribute to the problem.

49:24SPEAKERYou don't wanna increase the store of negativity

49:26SPEAKERin the world necessarily,

49:27SPEAKERbut sometimes it is fun to talk about

49:30SPEAKERand laugh at the things that are outlandish.

49:32SPEAKER- Maybe the Scene Drama episode

49:34SPEAKERis getting somebody on who is a noted message board,

49:38SPEAKERlike scene flamer, and having them read old posts

49:43SPEAKERand talk about how that makes them feel now.

49:45SPEAKER- Perhaps.

49:45SPEAKERWell, the ubiquity drama

49:47SPEAKERwas not like people sniping at each other.

49:49SPEAKERIt's an example of corporate malfeasance.

49:52SPEAKER- Yeah, no, I got that.

49:54SPEAKERSo that's a fine thing to talk about, I guess.

49:55SPEAKER- So I, and a lot of the hardcore network heads

49:59SPEAKERon our Discord are of the same mind.

50:01SPEAKERLike, I'm pretty burned by ubiquity stuff lately,

50:04SPEAKERand I'm probably not going to buy any more of their gear.

50:08SPEAKER- So what's the TP link, like prosumer/home office?

50:12SPEAKER- It's a big conversation,

50:13SPEAKERand I feel like we're not gonna actually address

50:15SPEAKERthis person's question well at all.

50:19SPEAKERShould we do that first, like?

50:21SPEAKER- So I was literally looking at this the other day

50:23SPEAKER'cause I have an access point and a router in my house.

50:27SPEAKERThe router is the one provided by the fiber company,

50:31SPEAKERand it's fine, but it leaves me a lot to be desired

50:35SPEAKERon specifically the port forwarding and loopback stuff.

50:44SPEAKERSo I was looking at other routers.

50:46SPEAKERIn order to replace the router

50:48SPEAKERinstead of just doing a, what do you call it?

50:54SPEAKERYou know, the thing where you open up all the ports

50:56SPEAKERand just forward it to an IP address.

50:58SPEAKERIn order to do that and double NAT,

51:01SPEAKERI have to get a ubiquity or build a PF sense router,

51:04SPEAKERit seems like.

51:05SPEAKER- I will, well, this is a big question,

51:07SPEAKERand it depends on this person's use case.

51:10SPEAKERI will say people like MicroTik a lot

51:12SPEAKERas a kind of competitor to ubiquity

51:15SPEAKERin that sort of prosumer, what do you want to call that?

51:19SPEAKER- Managed network gear space.

51:21SPEAKER- SOHO space.

51:23SPEAKER- I think ubiquity's usually,

51:26SPEAKERubiquity is more for satellite offices, not SOHO,

51:31SPEAKERwould be my, if you want to make a network

51:34SPEAKERthat has a direct tunnel to your home office network,

51:37SPEAKERubiquity is a good way to go with that, it seems like.

51:39SPEAKER- Sure, sure.

51:40SPEAKER- And also IT people can manage switches

51:43SPEAKERand access points and all that stuff

51:44SPEAKERfrom wherever they are, not just in the same building.

51:47SPEAKER- So they've had a lot of stuff going on,

51:49SPEAKERlike there was a big data breach.

51:52SPEAKERThey had a lot of user accounts compromised

51:54SPEAKERa few months ago, like beginning of the year,

51:55SPEAKERand then some of the security researchers in that community,

51:58SPEAKERthere was like some whistleblowing saying that they

52:01SPEAKERin no way disclosed how bad the breach was

52:03SPEAKERto their customers and like left people exposed.

52:05SPEAKER- That's bad.

52:06SPEAKER- Because they cared more about their share price

52:08SPEAKERthan protecting their users.

52:09SPEAKER- That's, those people should be fired.

52:11SPEAKERThe people who made those decisions should be removed.

52:13SPEAKER- Yeah, but even before that,

52:14SPEAKERlike I like the edge router line a lot.

52:16SPEAKERI have an edge router four, but they are like,

52:19SPEAKERthat thing is, that whole line is on life support

52:21SPEAKERor dead at this point.

52:22SPEAKERLike they don't, they very visibly do not care

52:24SPEAKERabout those products anymore.

52:25SPEAKERThey're moving very heavily into the-

52:28SPEAKER- Like the dream machine space.

52:29SPEAKER- Yeah, like the dream machine space.

52:30SPEAKERI'm trying to think what you would call that.

52:32SPEAKERLike the very sleek, like sleek prosumer

52:35SPEAKERkind of all in one stuff.

52:36SPEAKERLike they're clearly like shifting focus

52:39SPEAKERand the rugged metal box kind of category

52:43SPEAKERis a casualty of that.

52:44SPEAKERSo MicroTik is apparently quite popular in that space.

52:48SPEAKERIf you're looking for a hardcore router.

52:50SPEAKER- Okay.

52:51SPEAKER- If you just want to-

52:53SPEAKER- I got to look and see if they'll do the max spoofing

52:56SPEAKERthat I need to like, or the Mac forwarding.

52:59SPEAKER'Cause one of the things that Ubiquiti and PF Sense do

53:02SPEAKERfor people who are stuck with a ISP provided router

53:06SPEAKERis they'll just say, okay, all the traffic from this ONT

53:09SPEAKERgoes to this IP address and this Mac address.

53:13SPEAKERAnd then it just basically tunnels those off

53:15SPEAKERon their own VLAN so that it can work as your router

53:19SPEAKERwithout having to do double netting or something like that.

53:22SPEAKER- Yeah.

53:23SPEAKERYeah, I mean, we probably needed a little more context

53:25SPEAKERto answer this question very effectively

53:27SPEAKER'cause it depends on like,

53:29SPEAKERif you just have a small home that you want to

53:32SPEAKERplug a thing in and never think about it again,

53:33SPEAKERyou could probably get whatever the current,

53:37SPEAKERwhat is it?

53:38SPEAKERThe Archer routers are pretty popular.

53:41SPEAKER- I don't know them.

53:42SPEAKER- Like the, is that a TP-Link?

53:45SPEAKER- TP-Link Archer, yeah.

53:46SPEAKER- Yes, TP-Link makes those, yes.

53:48SPEAKERYes, the TP-Link Archer line is pretty popular

53:51SPEAKERfor being a bang for the buck, like decent Wi-Fi router.

53:54SPEAKER- I mean, the other thing is if you have a larger house

53:56SPEAKERwhere you typically have Wi-Fi coverage problems,

53:59SPEAKERthe mesh stuff is really good.

54:00SPEAKER- Yes, yes, like do some research on mesh stuff as well.

54:04SPEAKER- Netgear, a lot of people like the Netgear stuff.

54:08SPEAKEREero is popular, but Amazon bought them,

54:11SPEAKERwhich it makes me immediately suspect.

54:13SPEAKERAnd also they don't work if the internet goes down,

54:17SPEAKERwhich like when you say it like that,

54:19SPEAKERit doesn't seem like it's that big a problem,

54:20SPEAKERbut a lot of people have stuff inside their house

54:23SPEAKERthat they don't want to use even if the internet's down.

54:24SPEAKER- Totally, that's terrible.

54:25SPEAKERI mean, like if you've got a home system

54:27SPEAKERor something like that running,

54:28SPEAKERsuddenly you can't turn your lights on.

54:30SPEAKER- I mean, in reality,

54:31SPEAKERmy power goes out way more than my internet does,

54:33SPEAKERso it's less of an issue for me personally,

54:35SPEAKERbut it's something to be aware of.

54:36SPEAKER- Yeah.

54:38SPEAKER- I used the Google Mesh stuff until I got fiber,

54:40SPEAKERand then the router that I had was too slow,

54:42SPEAKERand it's, the Google Mesh stuff is great.

54:45SPEAKER- Yeah.

54:46SPEAKER- So.

54:47SPEAKER- I think about new routers

54:48SPEAKERbecause I like thinking about new routers,

54:50SPEAKERbut not because I need one,

54:51SPEAKERbecause this edge router is going to be perfectly fine

54:54SPEAKERuntil I get faster internet,

54:55SPEAKERwhich is probably not going to happen for a while.

54:57SPEAKER- I would hope not for a while.

54:58SPEAKER- I mean, the next step is probably

54:59SPEAKERa 10 gigabit home connection, which is-

55:01SPEAKER- But I don't even know what I would do with 10 gigabit.

55:03SPEAKER- Chattanooga has it.

55:05SPEAKERChattanooga's, I don't know how Tennessee got

55:07SPEAKERon the municipal fiber train, but they're-

55:10SPEAKER- I have a theory about this.

55:11SPEAKER- Chattanooga has public internet.

55:13SPEAKERYou can get fiber, gigabit fiber in Chattanooga

55:15SPEAKERfor like 60 bucks,

55:16SPEAKERor you can get 10 gigabit for 300 bucks a month.

55:18SPEAKER- So you know how Tennessee is real long?

55:20SPEAKER- Uh-huh.

55:21SPEAKER- They have different ISPs and telcos

55:24SPEAKERin each part of the state, central, middle,

55:26SPEAKEReast, west, and middle.

55:27SPEAKER- Okay.

55:28SPEAKER- So there's not one telco or cable company

55:31SPEAKERthat had enough reason to lobby the state

55:35SPEAKERto block the municipal broadband efforts.

55:37SPEAKER- Interesting.

55:38SPEAKEROh, that's so depressing.

55:39SPEAKER- It's like Sprint owns the east side,

55:41SPEAKERand Bell was the center, Southwest Bell was the center.

55:45SPEAKERSomebody else was all the way on the west side.

55:47SPEAKERSo yeah, that's my theory,

55:50SPEAKERwhy Tennessee doesn't have- - That's so depressing.

55:52SPEAKER- 'Cause like they're, just to be clear,

55:54SPEAKERif you look at the map of Tennessee broadband,

55:56SPEAKERthere's municipal broadband in like two thirds

55:58SPEAKERof the counties in the state of Tennessee.

56:00SPEAKER- I was looking at that.

56:01SPEAKER- It's very impressive, but then you have to look,

56:03SPEAKERlike I lived in Tennessee for 25 years.

56:08SPEAKER- I think I know where this is going.

56:09SPEAKER- I don't want to live in Tennessee anymore.

56:11SPEAKER- I was gonna say, I was gonna say.

56:12SPEAKER- Their legislator has communicated to me very strongly

56:17SPEAKERthat they do not want my people there,

56:19SPEAKERand I have taken the message.

56:21SPEAKER- I figured that's where you were going with that.

56:23SPEAKER- Yeah. - Okay.

56:24SPEAKER- Thanks, Tennessee.

56:25SPEAKER- Okay, last question comes in from Erica.

56:30SPEAKERWhat is the most useless surplus to requirements 3D print

56:34SPEAKERyou've ever printed just because you thought

56:36SPEAKERit was neat and fun?

56:37SPEAKER- Well, Brad, I did a little series for a while there.

56:41SPEAKER- I knew you would have some answers for this.

56:42SPEAKERI mean, my answers are things that you printed for me,

56:44SPEAKERbut go ahead.

56:45SPEAKER- 250 weeks worth of print the mystery object, I think.

56:52SPEAKERThey were all surplus and they were all useless.

56:57SPEAKERSo I don't use a 3D printer on the reg anymore.

57:00SPEAKERI haven't used it in a long time.

57:01SPEAKER- You don't own one, do you?

57:02SPEAKER- I have an old print bot, but I don't.

57:08SPEAKERAs far as I know, it's still workable.

57:09SPEAKERI haven't tried to fire it up

57:10SPEAKERin at least two or three years.

57:13SPEAKERIt turns out I don't need a 3D printer.

57:15SPEAKERI'm not a person who has the right skills

57:17SPEAKERto be able to use a 3D printer.

57:19SPEAKERBut what I do use all the time is the laser cutter.

57:21SPEAKER- Yeah, I was gonna say, I saw you tweeting

57:23SPEAKERabout fabricating a home repair part with the laser cutter.

57:26SPEAKER- So we replaced our kitchen faucet

57:29SPEAKERand we didn't read the specs.

57:31SPEAKERSo we didn't get the base plate balancer thing,

57:34SPEAKERwhich is basically a sheet of plastic

57:36SPEAKERthat is an extra foot and a half wider

57:38SPEAKERthat goes up underneath the faucet, underneath the sink

57:41SPEAKERwhen you have a thin stainless steel sink

57:44SPEAKERso that it doesn't wobble.

57:45SPEAKER- Oh, sure.

57:46SPEAKER- And nobody had them in stock in town.

57:49SPEAKERAnd I'd already taken the other one off

57:51SPEAKERbefore I realized this.

57:53SPEAKERSo in order to have a kitchen sink and a dishwasher

57:56SPEAKERand an ice maker and water in the fridge,

57:58SPEAKERI either would have had to put the old one back on,

58:02SPEAKERwhich is a big pain in the ass,

58:04SPEAKERand then wait three days for the part to come

58:06SPEAKERand then take it off again

58:07SPEAKERand do that whole rigmarole.

58:10SPEAKEROr I was like, oh, I bet I can just laser cut this

58:14SPEAKERout of plexiglass.

58:16SPEAKER- And it was the right thickness and everything?

58:17SPEAKER- Well, the plexiglass that I had was half thickness.

58:21SPEAKERSo I just cut two of them

58:22SPEAKERand then I acrylic cemented them together.

58:24SPEAKERSo they became one.

58:25SPEAKER'Cause acrylic cement just basically melts the plastic

58:27SPEAKERuntil it's one solid piece of plastic.

58:29SPEAKERAnd it works great.

58:31SPEAKER- All right.

58:32SPEAKERThat's home repair.

58:33SPEAKER- It was not surplus to requirements.

58:35SPEAKERIt was exactly two requirements.

58:36SPEAKER- That's pretty good.

58:38SPEAKERThat's the dream.

58:39SPEAKERHaving any kind of like home fabricating machinery

58:42SPEAKERis do something with it that serves a need, right?

58:44SPEAKER- Yeah.

58:45SPEAKER- As opposed to the little red super meat boy

58:48SPEAKERthat you 3D printed for me one time, which is like...

58:52SPEAKER- This is literally the only time Jean has ever been

58:54SPEAKERimpressed by a 3D printer or a laser cutter.

58:58SPEAKERShe was like, this is, well, I mean, that's not true.

59:00SPEAKERShe really likes the...

59:02SPEAKERThe kiddo and I make Christmas and birth.

59:05SPEAKERAlmost all of our cards are homemade

59:06SPEAKERwith the laser cutter now.

59:07SPEAKER- Okay, that's not bad.

59:08SPEAKERBut she was like, that is really cool.

59:12SPEAKERYou just made this?

59:14SPEAKERWell, I mean, I downloaded a file from Thingiverse

59:16SPEAKERand then I converted it to work on the cutter

59:18SPEAKERand then I cut it out of the plastic

59:19SPEAKERthat we had in the garage.

59:21SPEAKERShe's like, that's really cool.

59:21SPEAKERI was like, I think it's pretty cool.

59:23SPEAKER- That is pretty cool.

59:23SPEAKERYou made my mister kind of in half case

59:26SPEAKERwith your laser cutter.

59:27SPEAKERThat was also cool.

59:28SPEAKER- I can make a full case if you want.

59:30SPEAKERI like the sandwich.

59:32SPEAKERDidn't I make a raspberry pie cutter for you too?

59:34SPEAKER- That's right, that's right.

59:35SPEAKERYou also made a case for a raspberry pie.

59:37SPEAKER- Yeah, it turns out like it's,

59:39SPEAKERso the laser cutter is a real easy recommendation.

59:42SPEAKERIf like you have an Etsy shop

59:43SPEAKERand you sell like a hundred dollars worth of stuff a month,

59:45SPEAKER'cause you'll pay for it really quickly.

59:47SPEAKERIt's a little harder if you don't,

59:49SPEAKERbut also I regret nothing about buying the laser cutter

59:51SPEAKER'cause it's really fun.

59:54SPEAKER- Also, I like the smell of the, I don't know why.

59:58SPEAKER- The burning, oh, the burning acrylic.

1:00:00SPEAKER- It's, I don't know why.

1:00:02SPEAKERIt's probably not good that I like that.

1:00:04SPEAKER- So the smell that remains on the product

1:00:07SPEAKERafterwards is way less bad than the smell

1:00:09SPEAKERwhen it's happening.

1:00:10SPEAKER- Oh, sure, sure.

1:00:11SPEAKERI don't think I'd want to be in the garage

1:00:12SPEAKERwhile it was being cut, but when you drop that stuff off,

1:00:14SPEAKERit's like, oh, it's got a kind of a,

1:00:16SPEAKERit's hard to put my finger on.

1:00:19SPEAKERIt's a sweet, almost cinnamon-y kind of smell.

1:00:22SPEAKER- It's not, yeah, so it vents into the backyard.

1:00:25SPEAKERI feel bad.

1:00:25SPEAKERI try not to do it when people are gonna be

1:00:27SPEAKERin their backyards with plastic.

1:00:29SPEAKERThe wood smells fine.

1:00:30SPEAKERIt just smells like burning wood when you do the wood.

1:00:32SPEAKERMy favorite like class of weird 3D prints

1:00:35SPEAKERare those torture tests that people print

1:00:37SPEAKERto see how calibrated their printers are.

1:00:40SPEAKERThe classic one is the turret, the castle turret

1:00:44SPEAKERwith the stairs inside the castle.

1:00:46SPEAKERAnd it's like, if you have like a SLA printer

1:00:49SPEAKERor something like that, you can print really, really high res

1:00:52SPEAKERso that it looks like a miniature.

1:00:55SPEAKERPeople who print like Warhammer figurines

1:00:58SPEAKERand stuff like that, or like not specifically

1:01:01SPEAKERWarhammer figurines, but like that size and scale

1:01:04SPEAKERand scope of sculpture, I think are really neat.

1:01:08SPEAKERBut yeah, I don't, I don't, I like, here's the thing.

1:01:12SPEAKERI'm pretty sure if I had an SLA printer,

1:01:14SPEAKERI would find use for it, but I don't, I have a small house.

1:01:19SPEAKER- SLA printers, extra PCI express slots, you know.

1:01:22SPEAKER- We got all the acronyms here, dog.

1:01:24SPEAKER- If you've, but if you've got extra,

1:01:25SPEAKERyou'll find a use for it.

1:01:27SPEAKER- I mean, that's true.

1:01:28SPEAKER- Well, if you've got, you know, if you've got a hammer,

1:01:31SPEAKERif you've got a hammer,

1:01:32SPEAKERyou're gonna find a nail eventually.

1:01:33SPEAKER- So you're saying I need to get a printer?

1:01:35SPEAKER- Probably.

1:01:36SPEAKER- It's a perfect use of time and money.

1:01:38SPEAKER- Yes.

1:01:39SPEAKER- Speaking of time and money, thank you as always

1:01:42SPEAKERto all of the fabulous patrons who support our listener,

1:01:45SPEAKERsupported podcasts, Brad and Will made a tech pod.

1:01:48SPEAKER- You make this possible.

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1:02:08SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:02:10SPEAKER- Ben, oh my God, somebody,

1:02:13SPEAKERI don't know if you've realized this,

1:02:14SPEAKERbut somebody in chat this morning,

1:02:17SPEAKERLamond asked, hey, where should I,

1:02:19SPEAKERwhat should I have for lunch?

1:02:21SPEAKERAnd Synapse shared the wheeloflunch.com.

1:02:25SPEAKER- Wheel of lunch?

1:02:26SPEAKER- Wheelofcom.lunch.

1:02:27SPEAKEROh, this is not the one.

1:02:28SPEAKERSo Ben Brown from like the finger episode last month

1:02:34SPEAKERmade the same product, but tied it to your location.

1:02:40SPEAKERAnd it'll pick up, it hits high quality Yelp reviews

1:02:44SPEAKERand looks at your zip code

1:02:46SPEAKERand recommends where you get lunch.

1:02:48SPEAKERAnd that's how they solved their office,

1:02:49SPEAKERwhere should we get lunch today problem.

1:02:51SPEAKER- That's pretty neat.

1:02:52SPEAKER- Yeah, it was a good idea.

1:02:54SPEAKERBut anyway, there's a lot of interesting stuff

1:02:56SPEAKERhappening all the time.

1:02:58SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I've gone down more rabbit holes

1:03:01SPEAKERthan I can think of because of the stuff

1:03:03SPEAKERpeople talk about on there, I mean.

1:03:04SPEAKER- People helped me solve a batch file program,

1:03:07SPEAKERprogramming problem yesterday.

1:03:09SPEAKER- I saw that.

1:03:09SPEAKER- Yeah, it was really incredibly useful.

1:03:11SPEAKER- You know, that discord is the reason I have a mister

1:03:13SPEAKERand a lot of the esoteric computing stuff

1:03:16SPEAKERthat I am dabbling with come straight out of there.

1:03:19SPEAKERIt's a very instructive place.

1:03:20SPEAKER- My favorite thing is seeing people use nanotape

1:03:22SPEAKERfor all sorts of things that nanotape

1:03:24SPEAKERis absolutely not supposed to be used for.

1:03:26SPEAKER- It's a good test bed for the limits of nanotape.

1:03:29SPEAKER- Yeah, nanotape's pretty good as well.

1:03:31SPEAKERBut yeah, if you want to support the show,

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1:03:36SPEAKERAgain, the show's listener supported, we don't take ads.

1:03:40SPEAKERWe're not opposed to ads, I guess,

1:03:41SPEAKERbut like, you know, I'd rather take money

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1:03:44SPEAKERthan people who want to sell people

1:03:46SPEAKERwho listen to the show stuff.

1:03:48SPEAKER- Sure.

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1:03:55SPEAKERJacob Chappell, Joel Krauska, Twinkle Twinkie,

1:03:58SPEAKERDavid Allen, and James Cammack, thank you all so much.

1:04:01SPEAKERWe really appreciate you.

1:04:04SPEAKERI guess that's it for this week, Brad.

1:04:05SPEAKER- Oh, thank you everyone.

1:04:06SPEAKER- Hey, if people want to send emails in,

1:04:09SPEAKERhow can they do that, do you remember?

1:04:11SPEAKER- Techpod@content.town.

1:04:13SPEAKER- Emails.

1:04:14SPEAKER- We're not anti-email, I just want to reiterate.

1:04:17SPEAKERWe were absolutely still taking emails.

1:04:18SPEAKERThe Q&As are not limited to the Discord.

1:04:20SPEAKERThat's just where the Qs are these days.

1:04:22SPEAKER- Hold on.

1:04:23SPEAKER- Just to be clear, I am 100% anti-email,

1:04:28SPEAKERjust not in the context of messages sent to the Techpod.

1:04:33SPEAKER- Okay, that's a fair distinction.

1:04:35SPEAKER- Yeah, if you want to send it,

1:04:37SPEAKERI look at my Gmail account every morning and I'm like,

1:04:39SPEAKERoh, yeah, I hate email, email is bad.

1:04:43SPEAKEROutlook is okay,

1:04:44SPEAKERbut that's just 'cause nobody has my email address, I guess.

1:04:47SPEAKER- Email's bad, but it's what we've got.

1:04:49SPEAKER- It's where we're at.

1:04:50SPEAKER- Is it time for a new email?

1:04:51SPEAKER- What do you mean?

1:04:52SPEAKER- Should somebody just design an entirely new successor

1:04:56SPEAKERstandard to email?

1:04:58SPEAKER- Look, what if email, but on the blockchain,

1:05:01SPEAKERso people can spam you, Brad?

1:05:03SPEAKER- Okay, thanks for listening, everybody.

1:05:04SPEAKERWe'll see you next week.

1:05:05SPEAKER- Goodbye, everybody.