364: You're Folding it Wrong!

00:00SPEAKERI think my chair is sinking the post like the pole I'm not sure it could be

00:05SPEAKERthe cylinder it could be the pole the posts the hydraulics that's not

00:10SPEAKERhydraulic I don't know what it's hydraulic isn't it if it's a gas is it

00:13SPEAKERstill hydraulic I mean yeah guess this could be hydraulic I guess so sure yeah

00:17SPEAKERyou do well actually no guess this can't be hydraulic because hydraulics work

00:21SPEAKERbecause liquids don't compress right okay it's the whole site that's the

00:24SPEAKERwhole thing I don't even know exactly how again well I can I can kind of

00:28SPEAKERassume how a gas cylinder works I assume your weight when you pull the lever your

00:32SPEAKERweight is compressing the gas and then when you get off of the chair and pull

00:35SPEAKERthe lever it kind of allows the gas to decompress and raise the chair back up

00:39SPEAKERthat's just my guess no pulling the lever lets the gas out so is it not

00:43SPEAKERsealed well I mean when the levers closed it's sealed and then when you

00:46SPEAKERpull the lever it lets the gas out and then that's what makes you go down and

00:49SPEAKERthen if you want to go back up you have to stand up and it and there's a spring

00:52SPEAKERin there that pushes it back up to fill the space I assume wait when you say

00:55SPEAKERlet's the gas out are you saying out of the cylinder entirely there's there's

00:58SPEAKERsome way to let put gas out of the cylinder because they can't change the

01:01SPEAKERcompressibility of the gas unless they remove gas so are you saying the gas in

01:05SPEAKERthere is just the ambient air it's just air yeah well then why do gas cylinders

01:09SPEAKERdegrade over time because that's where I'm going here I might need to replace

01:12SPEAKERthe cylinder on the chair and that sounds scary but no it's why does the

01:16SPEAKERcylinder degrade then if it's just pulling in outside air I mean you know

01:19SPEAKEReverything degrades entropy is a bitch man maybe so the other the other thing

01:23SPEAKERis I can't tell first of all I can't tell if it's actually sinking at all

01:27SPEAKERmaybe I'm shrinking I'm not sure you could be you do look lower in the frame

01:30SPEAKERI'm just saying but it also could be the cushion I'm now starting to wonder if

01:36SPEAKERthe cushion is just worn out on this chair I definitely feel lower and I

01:40SPEAKERdon't like it when the cushion wears out on a chair in my experience you start

01:45SPEAKERfeeling like the plasticky bits in your ass which is uncomfortable yeah that's

01:49SPEAKERthat would be the obvious sign but I've sit on it so much maybe your ass is just

01:54SPEAKERmolded to the plastic that's exactly it and and I've sat on it for so many years

01:58SPEAKERthat I just I'm not sure I can tell it does feel a little hard I don't know so

02:03SPEAKERlet me share the good word about purple to you Gary would have turned me on to

02:07SPEAKERthese years ago purple the like rubber mattress people make a a chair like a

02:14SPEAKERsupplemental chair pad for people who like drive cabs and spend and pick and I

02:20SPEAKERassume do like long-haul 18-wheeler drivers and desk workers because these

02:24SPEAKERare the people that sit a lot am I gonna end up with a doughnut out of this no no

02:29SPEAKERit's not a doughnut it's not it's it's not this isn't a medical device this is

02:32SPEAKERjust a this is just a big it's like an inch and a half thick padded cushion

02:37SPEAKERthat gives your you know your your posterior a little more padding just

02:41SPEAKERthinking if you've got if you've got the bony ass as many of us do then this will

02:47SPEAKERthis will give you a little bit more a little more junk in between your trunk

02:51SPEAKERand the and the chair maybe I'll look into that I mean you know obviously an

02:55SPEAKEReasy tell is do I find the chair needs raising at the cylinder level

02:59SPEAKERoccasionally and the answer is yes but just barely like occasionally it'll have

03:03SPEAKERsunk just a tiny bit but I actually don't think that's maybe the primary

03:06SPEAKERproblem here yeah so maybe it is the cushion changing the cylinder is pretty

03:10SPEAKEReasy like this it's look I've heard horror yeah I in fact I even pulled

03:16SPEAKERsome people on the discord I've heard some horror stories about either or not

03:19SPEAKERbeing able to get it out or once you whack it out with a mallet it shoots out

03:22SPEAKERand breaks something well so you do want to be careful because it is there's a

03:27SPEAKERlot of stored up energy in there yeah but yeah as long as you lay it on its

03:31SPEAKERside and you're you're smart about how you do it you're not gonna do too much

03:34SPEAKERdamage probably well because the cylinder replacements not that expensive

03:37SPEAKERno cushion is pretty expensive yes yes I looked that up I have this chair this is

03:43SPEAKERa steel case leap v2 mm-hmm but it was used it was a refurbed I got it's signal

03:49SPEAKERabout five and a half years ago which means it was already they already

03:52SPEAKERreupholstered at once apparently yeah so I I eyeballed their product page like

03:56SPEAKERlast week looking into this and the wording is unclear if they use a new

04:01SPEAKERcushion that they reupholster or not if it's the original cushion from the chair

04:05SPEAKERI can't imagine they would I mean I'm sure they do it on a case-by-case basis

04:08SPEAKERyeah well so you can elect like an extra amount of cushion like an extra like

04:12SPEAKERhalf inch of foam on top or whatever but I yeah like you said I assume that's

04:15SPEAKERstill at the base the original cushion that who do you think was sitting on

04:19SPEAKERthis cushion and for how long before I got it look I'm the only person who sat

04:23SPEAKERon my cushions yeah well look they didn't send me a chair unfortunately well

04:27SPEAKERso okay if you're listening here's the good news Brad I know if you've been

04:31SPEAKERpaying attention to stock prices this week but there's been a lot of downward

04:35SPEAKERmomentum in the AI spaces heard so maybe just maybe new used chairs are gonna be

04:42SPEAKERon the market soon are you saying there might be some sidewalk specials out

04:45SPEAKERthere I'm just saying you know when the economy's bad in San Francisco it's a

04:49SPEAKERgood time for for chair lovers yeah that's that's fair you were not wrong

04:53SPEAKERabout the cushion though I looked at the B Todd site to see what a new chair like

04:57SPEAKERkind of refurbished cushion module would cost mm-hmm it's like half the cost of

05:02SPEAKERthe chair I mean it's look is your ass not worth spending a little bit of

05:07SPEAKERcheddar cheese on that's not it's too early in the morning to address a

05:10SPEAKERquestion like that

05:27SPEAKERyou

05:39SPEAKERwelcome to Brad will made a tech pod I'm will I am Brad

05:43SPEAKERhello hello hello I think your ass is worth it Brad for it's well thanks yeah

05:49SPEAKERthat's okay I'm just saying like the two of the things that I've done over the

05:54SPEAKERlast decade are gonna sit stand desk so I can stand here not a lot but like an

05:59SPEAKERhour or two a day when I feel like it and and getting a nice chair like I

06:03SPEAKERwould have having having had the nice chair that yes admittedly I did not pay

06:08SPEAKERfor I would 100% pay for the nice chair yeah as much as I said here now like a

06:14SPEAKERhundred percent worth it this is a reefer but otherwise it was like this is

06:18SPEAKERa pretty nice chair as well and I finally come around to the idea that hey

06:22SPEAKERthe things you use constantly all the time every day are worth sinking extra

06:26SPEAKERmoney into and getting the nice thing honestly it's even stuff like my

06:30SPEAKERshoulder like my shoulder and wrist pain and stuff like that has reduced

06:33SPEAKERdramatically as a result of having shit set up or set up the right way so yeah

06:37SPEAKERyeah anyway take care of yourself yeah yeah you know and and like I said hey I

06:44SPEAKERbubble popping maybe maybe maybe it's time for an upgrade it's all I'm gonna

06:48SPEAKERsay maybe I had not even looked at the market this week I'd saw a couple of

06:52SPEAKERreferences on social media to some kind of crash but some markets some parts of

06:56SPEAKERthe market were really good and then some parts of the market did not do as

06:59SPEAKERwell so you know your mileage may vary thankfully I am NOT in the market enough

07:04SPEAKERto really care outside of kind of pretty standard 401k retirement type stuff so

07:09SPEAKERyep easy easy to just let that one glide right off stay the course yes it's

07:15SPEAKERelection week in the u.s. yes yes I guess it still is I mean it happened

07:19SPEAKERalready but I mean there's still being counted yeah yeah true thanks everybody

07:24SPEAKERwho went out and voted good job it was a broad rejection of fascism the u.s.

07:29SPEAKERfeels nice thank you yes but yeah we have we had leftover potpourri news and

07:38SPEAKERstuff to talk about from last week babbled so much about security flaws

07:42SPEAKERthat's and more continue to emerge but I guess we won't get into them there's an

07:46SPEAKERinsane SSH one yeah that just came out I didn't dig into that yet but yeah it's

07:52SPEAKERis that the one that you can have a 200 if you have a 200 for any 256 character

07:57SPEAKERpassword gets you access to it yes but it's only if you're using a specific

08:01SPEAKERlibc that is not the canoe libc that everybody uses world if you're using

08:06SPEAKERmusil okay she's a which is an alternate libc see lives as the libc is the C

08:11SPEAKERlibrary it's okay standard library on your system that it's like C programs

08:17SPEAKERcall out to for standard C functionality it's like ms visual C DLL or whatever is

08:22SPEAKERthe equivalent yes kind of yes so like but your your alpines and your maybe

08:28SPEAKERvoid Linux like some of these some of these like kind of anti system D anti

08:33SPEAKERGNU type distros will use that okay anyway whatever well I'm bad news again

08:41SPEAKERonce again you see why we didn't get to the other news last week because yeah

08:45SPEAKERthings come up and I can't stop talking but we do have other non Linux

08:49SPEAKERnon-security vulnerability news that we wanted to cover last week but also the

08:52SPEAKERelection happened and that was a big deal and also it seems like there's kind

08:57SPEAKERof a social media and like broadcast stream tech angle to cover there I'm

09:03SPEAKERgonna go and say the thing that Steve Kornacki does at ms now or whatever they

09:07SPEAKERcall it msnbc now it's ms now is so I think NBC divested of it and spun it

09:14SPEAKERoff so okay that's why it's called ms now now it's perfect good job good job

09:18SPEAKEReverybody it's not at all confusing I like that their logo is now like just

09:22SPEAKERone wing of the peacock did you notice that it's not actually true I don't know

09:26SPEAKERit was hanging above the set when I was watching so I don't watch a lot of cable

09:30SPEAKERTV these days I don't watch any ms now or any cable anything which I think is

09:34SPEAKERactually a topic to cover here is kind of like how news and information are

09:38SPEAKERdisseminated in this environment and how we consumed this stuff but anyway yes go

09:43SPEAKERon yeah so anyway they did so there's this guy Steve Kornacki who is like at

09:48SPEAKERtheir data analysis guy yeah he is kind of like the chief data analyst I think

09:53SPEAKERis his title kind of like the internet data nerd par excellence or whatever

09:57SPEAKERlike he's kind of he's kind of gained like a cult following yeah it's like

10:01SPEAKERwhat if the 438 guy was what if Nate Silver was good right this is the way I

10:05SPEAKERthink about it but yes anyway they did a like he they always have segments with

10:11SPEAKERhim where he has a big giant touchscreen that he stands in front of that has a

10:15SPEAKERmap of whatever elections going at that at any given moment and he can drill

10:19SPEAKERdown into the different races with the touchscreen so it's it's like you're

10:22SPEAKERstanding in the lobby of a Hilton trying to figure out what services are offered

10:26SPEAKERbut he's doing that on a county by county basis for the election results as

10:32SPEAKERthey're coming in and he was one of the early he was so I've long played the

10:37SPEAKERgame where I sit there and I look at the number of votes that are outstanding and

10:41SPEAKERthe Delta between the people there and the the between the two tallies is

10:45SPEAKERaccounting votes and I'm like okay there's no chance this one's gonna flip

10:48SPEAKERbut this one might blah blah blah blah also like the demographic makeup of the

10:53SPEAKERcounties that have yet to report so yeah he pulls that stuff in he pulls in

10:57SPEAKERhistorical data he's aware of like like the the ongoing trends like whether the

11:04SPEAKERearly vote the the in-person vote versus the mail-in vote or the the the early

11:09SPEAKERvote is gonna trend left or right whatever and has a pretty good track

11:14SPEAKERrecord of figuring stuff out maybe not earlier but fast right and explaining it

11:21SPEAKERreally well yeah yeah I think I think it's the explanation the context he

11:24SPEAKERgives to things and also just how his stamina like how much he's able to stand

11:29SPEAKERat that screen and just keep doing it for hours yeah we've we've done some

11:32SPEAKERlive streams bro you and I both done some long live streams before Brad yeah

11:35SPEAKERthat's kind of a big part of the angle I wanted to take on this thing because so

11:40SPEAKERwhoever decided to run this side stream called the Kornacki cam is a genius they

11:45SPEAKERdid it for ten hours 13 that he killed it after ten because he ran out of gas

11:50SPEAKERyou're right it is about ten hours that's very funny I didn't realize he

11:55SPEAKERshut it down oh so the way he shut it down was he said he was gonna go take a

11:58SPEAKERfive-minute break and then they just killed the stream and if he got on

12:02SPEAKERsocial media the next day was like I'm sorry I just I thought I was good for

12:05SPEAKER13 hours but I just I just couldn't make words anymore okay if he committed to

12:10SPEAKERthat himself I guess that's on him but if it was the management that was telling

12:13SPEAKERhim because he's still within BC I guess he stayed with them when the split

12:16SPEAKERhappened but if it was the management telling him to stream on his feet for 13

12:21SPEAKERhours no he said he thought he could do it he said he thought he could do it

12:23SPEAKERbecause he because I like his long runs have been 13 hours okay I think like so

12:29SPEAKERtypically his his loop I think is he's one of the people who fills time for

12:34SPEAKERthem when they need when they need to transition people on the talking heads

12:38SPEAKERpart of the set right but he's also he's also the person they go to for things

12:42SPEAKERthat need some more like math II explanations and so he's on maybe like

12:48SPEAKER20 minutes an hour attend on a big hour but probably more like 15 right yeah

12:52SPEAKERyeah he's a data walk we should say like yeah he really digs into the numbers and

12:56SPEAKERlike you sent me a Rolling Stone piece that they wrote up I think it was was a

13:02SPEAKERbefore after the stream I think it was before it was on Monday but talking

13:05SPEAKERabout his like insane office setup where his monitors are so big he can't see

13:10SPEAKERpeople on the other side of his desk when they come into his office and like

13:12SPEAKERhe's just pouring over it's like they basically said he has like an ultra

13:17SPEAKERultra wide monitor like the widest aspect ratio you can get and the width

13:22SPEAKERof the spreadsheet he was working with to prepare for the stream was still

13:25SPEAKERwider than that monitor so that's what I would like that's the thing I thought

13:28SPEAKERwas interesting about this is that Rolling Stone article gave some insight

13:30SPEAKERI haven't seen I kind of want to reach out to them as now people or I'm assuming

13:34SPEAKERsee and see who like I want to know how they actually do this yeah I want to

13:40SPEAKERknow what the because it seems like the back end of this screen is all just a

13:44SPEAKERbunch of spreadsheets right and that's where this kornacki cam stream is really

13:48SPEAKERamusing because basically what it is is like I think it captures both his like

13:52SPEAKERon-air segments quote-unquote you know he's actually live on NBC but then also

13:56SPEAKERstays on him while they go back to the anchors or cut to commercial and while

14:00SPEAKERlike his conversations with the producer and also relaying stuff through the data

14:04SPEAKERteam and stuff like that is all really fascinating they occasionally cut to an

14:08SPEAKERinset of the control room where all the switching is going on and stuff but like

14:11SPEAKERthat's word so yes that's where the giant bomb connection really comes in

14:15SPEAKERfor me because that producer I forget his name somebody maybe yeah okay but

14:22SPEAKERthis is literally the giant bomb phenomenon of I guess that guy was

14:26SPEAKERbleeding into previous streams so much that finally the management was like

14:30SPEAKERlet's just Mike him up and put him on in a feed because like kornacki was

14:34SPEAKERthrowing questions to him so much they were like all right this guy's technically

14:37SPEAKERhe's a behind-the-scenes guy but now he's part of the stream that's exactly

14:40SPEAKERhow things went a giant bomb you know we're like you would always hire people

14:45SPEAKERto run production stuff but they would always end up just becoming

14:48SPEAKERpersonalities in their own right by way of you know slightly ramshackle like

14:53SPEAKERseat-of-the-pants livestream production what's even funnier is I think that they

14:58SPEAKERI mean yes this is very much the giant bombification of mainstream media a like

15:03SPEAKERhalf a billion people watch that or something it was some enormous number of

15:06SPEAKERpeople watch that stream it was the biggest live stream on Tuesday night by

15:10SPEAKERa lot so I didn't start watching that but I think that they miked up Andy and

15:15SPEAKERput the camera on and midway through the stream because at some point I heard

15:18SPEAKERkornacki say hey wait can people hear you when you're talking now as if that

15:23SPEAKERwasn't part of the original plan which I think is fascinating yeah yeah it's a

15:27SPEAKERgood time and then you know you get all kinds of camera people getting into the

15:31SPEAKERshot and like kornacki kind of like uncomfortably close to a camera because

15:35SPEAKERhe doesn't care what angle is live he's just busy wrangling data so his face is

15:40SPEAKERlike filling the frame well to me the really interesting thing was the part of

15:44SPEAKERthe Rolling Stone article which I think will link in the show notes like they

15:49SPEAKERthey talked about him having a really incredible recall for like the county by

15:55SPEAKERcounty trends and data and stuff like that from past elections and part of the

16:00SPEAKERconversation part of thing was fascinating about that live stream was

16:03SPEAKERhe would run through his next live segment and he would say like when a

16:08SPEAKERlive segment was coming up he'd be like hey I'm gonna go to the main feed now

16:10SPEAKERI'll be back in a couple minutes but they keep the camera on him while he was

16:14SPEAKERdoing it right and in the minutes leading up to that he would run through

16:19SPEAKERkind of in his head the whole but the whole segment was going to be like work

16:23SPEAKERthrough the motions on controlling the board talk about the things he wanted to

16:27SPEAKERtalk about ask questions of his producer and it was literally what getting to

16:31SPEAKERwatch him build one of these like four minute segments five minute segments in

16:35SPEAKERreal time which is absolutely fascinating it's like like the thing I

16:40SPEAKERtold Gina was like I've done I've done a live stream or two I've done a lot of

16:44SPEAKERstuff live over a long period of time like this is like the difference between

16:48SPEAKERplaying backyard basketball and watching Michael Jordan you know what I mean sure

16:53SPEAKERit's it's it's wild it was really fun but the the Rolling Stone piece has a

16:58SPEAKERfun anecdote I mean on the point of him constructing these segments on the fly

17:02SPEAKERwhere like the technology has gotten better the touchscreen has gotten the

17:06SPEAKERwhole interface that he's working with has gotten better I forget was at the

17:09SPEAKER2016 election they cite in there where he was like he tried to build some whole

17:13SPEAKERlike dramatic build-up granted it was the night Trump won and it was about how

17:17SPEAKERTrump was gonna get to 270 so yeah I'll leave that as an exercise for the

17:21SPEAKERlistener whether that's a valuable dramatic reveal or not but the point is

17:24SPEAKERhe was like trying to say like oh the state in the state and these electoral

17:27SPEAKERvotes and this tally and at the end of the whole process the the touchscreen

17:31SPEAKERspit out a tally of 700 electoral votes which obviously logistically impossible

17:37SPEAKERso like yeah kind of a ramshackle process but you know they say in that

17:41SPEAKERstory that like the the screen has gotten both bigger and the interface

17:45SPEAKERmore complex and more effective at doing stunts like that I think I think they're

17:50SPEAKERputting more data into it now too because he they had historical elections

17:53SPEAKERthis time going back to like 2018 I think or 2016 I can't remember and he

17:58SPEAKERwas he was pulling him up and like it was definitely getting chunky I would

18:01SPEAKERlike I said I would love to know maybe they can't afford to get real GPUs or

18:05SPEAKERsomething for this oh you mean just like the performance of the animation and

18:08SPEAKERstuff yeah I want to know what the back end is like yes I would love to know you

18:13SPEAKERknow I don't know why this comes to mind and I'm not saying they're involved here

18:16SPEAKERbut did you know that's a big thing that Matrox specializes in these days yeah

18:20SPEAKERyeah they do whether like the weather set up for local TV news and stuff like

18:24SPEAKERthat yeah like video walls and stuff like that everybody's favorite mid 90s

18:28SPEAKER2d graphics card maker Matrox is still around doing this kind of thing now for

18:32SPEAKERwhat it's worth Matrox always did video walls that's why they had like they were

18:36SPEAKERthat they were the first ones that had two monitors on one video card oh and it

18:39SPEAKERwas because they were doing video walls specifically yeah oh okay also like

18:45SPEAKERmatrix displays is what they're called so they're not there they're like not

18:48SPEAKEReven like a grid of what you look think of as the normal TV it's just a big box

18:51SPEAKERthat can have screens and has very little bezel so anyway yeah yes you're

18:56SPEAKERright though I would love to know what kind of boxes are driving this thing and

18:59SPEAKERwhat the specs are and stuff yeah my assumption is that the front end is some

19:03SPEAKERsort of like the thing that's on the TV is some app that's fed by an infinite

19:08SPEAKERnumber of spreadsheets so that they can have researchers in the back feeding

19:11SPEAKERdata into new spreadsheet because it seemed like the other part of it is

19:15SPEAKERunlike say that New York Times County map where it's just pulling in the live

19:20SPEAKERdata that people are putting in on like they're taking the county level data and

19:24SPEAKERputting it on the back end and you can access any County I don't think the MSNBC

19:28SPEAKERapp that he's using actually gives you access to everything I think it's only

19:33SPEAKERwhat the researchers are putting in so he had to ask for updates on stuff a

19:36SPEAKERfair amount of times okay producer personality comes in yeah it was

19:41SPEAKERfascinating it was really really and and he also had multiple producers the other

19:44SPEAKERthing I wondered is he had Andy I think is was the guy's name who was just on

19:49SPEAKERcamera standing there talking to him kind of nonplussed about cornet keys

19:53SPEAKERantics and then there was somebody else that would come in his ear occasionally

19:56SPEAKERthat we couldn't hear named Anna I think who would who I assume was like the

19:59SPEAKERcontrol room person when they were calling in like he had a data producer

20:03SPEAKERand a video producer maybe it was is the split I don't know anyway Adam is

20:08SPEAKERapparently Adam Noboa is the thank you the producer sorry it was a good time I

20:13SPEAKERdidn't like it like you said the the giant bombification of professional live

20:17SPEAKERcontent this yeah I'm using to watch I it's kind of everybody now everybody

20:23SPEAKERfrom like everybody from your Hassan pikers and other sort of react

20:27SPEAKERstreamers you know like people streaming over top of other streams to like even

20:33SPEAKERlike big political podcasts are all like super personality driven talking head

20:38SPEAKERtype stuff where they're drinking on camera and stuff and even this you know

20:42SPEAKERwhat I mean it's like look OBS is a superpower talking to a camera's

20:47SPEAKERsuperpower you put them together boom yep suddenly you're counting county

20:51SPEAKERlevel results on the US midterm election yeah I feel like I feel like the

20:55SPEAKERdissemination of political news information both in an election night

20:59SPEAKERcontext and otherwise has never been more fragmented and scattershot that's

21:04SPEAKERright like like my awareness of granted theoretically you don't really need

21:10SPEAKERawareness of candidates that are not running in elections you can vote on you

21:13SPEAKERknow but you don't need any of this like it's not like watching the election

21:17SPEAKERresults changes the results once the votes are in the boats are in yeah but

21:20SPEAKERmy but the point is my own my awareness of candidates major candidates in other

21:24SPEAKERraces other states you know is entirely dependent on whether I see clips of them

21:29SPEAKERcoming across my social media feed at this point like that's kind of interesting

21:32SPEAKERand and I you know that is relevant in a national context because that is going

21:36SPEAKERto be the bench for national politicians going forward especially especially

21:40SPEAKERright now as the Democratic Party hopefully is sweeping some old

21:45SPEAKERleadership out the door and trying to bring in some some fresh faces with a

21:50SPEAKERlittle more motivation to do things but but the point is you know like like

21:54SPEAKEReverybody from your else I add to Andrews to you name Hamilton like name

22:00SPEAKERall these kind of new faces coming through like you kind of only know who

22:03SPEAKERthey are and what they're about if I see like you know social media like cable

22:09SPEAKERnews hits or who's the the Mississippi candidate did he win yet Scott column

22:15SPEAKERnot column yeah I'll call him he hasn't won yet I never got it's gonna be in

22:19SPEAKERcourt for a while because it's real close I'd never even heard of him but

22:22SPEAKERthen his his his his beef ad came across my feed yesterday oh I see that one it's

22:28SPEAKERan incredible one of the best political ads I've ever seen he's about price of

22:32SPEAKERbeef but but I just saw that and immediately it's like just the way you

22:36SPEAKERgather information these days is so random but like he immediately like shot

22:40SPEAKERup my internal barometer of like oh this is somebody to watch like this guy could

22:44SPEAKERbe a national figure soon because like he clearly has good instincts he he the

22:50SPEAKERmorning after the election somebody one of the press corps asked him he was like

22:56SPEAKERhey it looks like your opponent is all but declared victory last night what do

23:00SPEAKERyou what do you have to say about that and he thought about it for a minute

23:03SPEAKERgave it a real gave it a real second he's like well bless her heart and

23:08SPEAKERthere's a hundred years of Mississippi just bundled up in three words there so

23:15SPEAKERgood good on him yeah I don't know it's it's a I have mixed feelings about

23:21SPEAKERpolitics American electoral democracy as a spectator sport yeah I think however

23:28SPEAKERthe one upside is I think people being generally speaking people being more

23:34SPEAKERengaged with the process is is generally good yeah sure the the other thing I

23:39SPEAKERwanted was gonna say is Gina and I were talking about this because it's funny we

23:43SPEAKERwere both independently watching the kornacki stream like she was in the

23:47SPEAKERkitchen doing something I was in my office still and I was like hey are you

23:49SPEAKERwatching this kornacki things like oh yeah I've been watching for like two

23:51SPEAKERhours I was like oh well let's put on the TV it's in the living room together

23:54SPEAKERand we were talking about the problem with the map right because the map the

24:02SPEAKERdata the data display for the electoral map is based on counties and counties do

24:07SPEAKERnot represent people evenly because some counties are very dense with people and

24:10SPEAKERsome counties are very very sparse with people so you end up with a sweeping

24:16SPEAKERblue wave election where it's like a all red map with a bunch of little dots if

24:21SPEAKERyou look at it on the county level it's because the urban areas tend to vote

24:24SPEAKERblue and the and the rural areas tend to vote red and one is more heavily

24:28SPEAKERpopulated than the other and she found somebody the next day we were talking

24:32SPEAKERabout this as a data problem the next day she found someone who had taken a

24:36SPEAKERbunch of post-it notes and jelly beans and illustrated the relative population

24:41SPEAKERdifference density differences between say you know Dallas and Houston and

24:47SPEAKERAustin and Sacramento and and San Antonio and West Texas where there's

24:52SPEAKERlike one person per every five square miles or something to illustrate that

24:57SPEAKERyeah yeah sure the individual counties have gone red but some of those West

25:00SPEAKERTexas counties had like 300 people voting versus Houston is the fifth

25:04SPEAKERlargest city in the United States so I love a good jelly bean electoral

25:08SPEAKERmetaphor exactly visual aid exactly should we move on to some some other

25:14SPEAKERtechnology stuff I guess so I thought about there's certainly a conversation

25:19SPEAKERabout curated algorithms on social media and their ability to warp people's

25:24SPEAKERperception of the world and what the electorate is thinking which I don't know

25:27SPEAKERif that's probably too big a topic to get into here I mean I think like I would

25:30SPEAKERlike to get an expert on to talk about that there's some people we know that we

25:33SPEAKERcould that have actual data on that yeah it's a it's a really interesting topic

25:38SPEAKERthough because like that you know there's the idea that like oh you know

25:40SPEAKERTwitter has become such a ugly cesspool that certain people who hang out there

25:46SPEAKERhave come to think that represents what the entire country think their brains

25:49SPEAKERBrad is what you're talking about right but then but then you see a bunch of

25:52SPEAKERpeople like didn't like there was like some think piece that ran it's like oh

25:55SPEAKERno this is the election that proves that blue sky was right and now you see

25:59SPEAKERpeople going like oh wait no hang on like the the answer here is not to just

26:02SPEAKERpivot to the other end of the spectrum here the answer is to realize that

26:05SPEAKERsocial media does not represents the mass of real people outside your door

26:10SPEAKERwell I mean the thing I'll say is because I've had to spend some time on

26:14SPEAKERInstagram and and places with curated algorithms lately I really think that

26:20SPEAKERthe that the algorithmic social media feed that just shows you more of what

26:24SPEAKERyou're what you're gonna engage the most with is maybe the most corrosive part of

26:29SPEAKERall the social media stuff easily a thousand percent like I feel like the

26:32SPEAKERthe reverse chronological timeline is assuming you curate your feed in an

26:38SPEAKERinteresting way just lets you graze on the data right you you get the little

26:42SPEAKERnibbles here and little nibbles there but it's not like you're being

26:45SPEAKERconstantly bombarded by the same thing and and the the curated the algorithm

26:49SPEAKERstuff seems gnarly as a result so anyway who knows what regulatory antidotes to

26:56SPEAKERthis problem might come in the years ahead I didn't I get our hopes up or not

26:59SPEAKERwe could just do nothing we could just be like hey we have a mandate let's sit

27:02SPEAKERhere and compromise with the people who were roundly rejected by the electorate

27:06SPEAKERhey maybe call your call your house members and senators and encourage them

27:10SPEAKERto vote for people who are realize the the seriousness of the situation we find

27:15SPEAKERourselves in that's good advice anyway touchscreen MacBook Pro was announced

27:20SPEAKERlast week yeah LED yeah that did happen actually and I have thoughts about it as

27:25SPEAKERsomebody who literally just bought a Mac for pro like a month ago do you do you

27:31SPEAKERI mean look I look at the picture of the guy with the extra knuckle and we're

27:36SPEAKERusing the touchscreen MacBook I'm sorry what did the guy has an extra knuckle is

27:40SPEAKERthat they know what look at the finger look at the finger that they used on the

27:46SPEAKERMacBook Pro with the keyboard the picture with the MacBook Pro in the

27:49SPEAKERkeyboard the index finger on the right hand the index finger on the right hand

27:52SPEAKERis as one two are you sure I I have just another naturally three knuckles one two

27:58SPEAKERis that just an unnaturally long finger it looks like there's a bend in the in

28:03SPEAKERthe midway through the knuckle that connects to his hand I'm going to assume

28:08SPEAKERApple is not using AI to generate products images maybe they just have a

28:13SPEAKERguy with extra knuckles in his hands maybe yeah anyway I don't know if I

28:18SPEAKERdon't you started to say you may be asking but maybe you don't care but I'm

28:22SPEAKERjust going to assume for the sake of argument that you might be wondering hey

28:25SPEAKERBrad how do you feel about buying a lot of a month ago whether I regret buying a

28:29SPEAKERMacBook Pro right before this announcement that the answer is no and

28:31SPEAKERin fact it was by design okay because this this thing has been rumored like

28:35SPEAKERApple rumors I mean I guess all rumors are you know you can't immediately

28:39SPEAKERbelieve everything you read out there but generally like nothing is leak proof

28:43SPEAKERthese days yeah even even the most secretive company in technology the

28:49SPEAKERmanufacturing chains are deep and difficult to seal these days yeah like

28:52SPEAKERall their shit just leaks these days and so like this thing had basically been

28:56SPEAKERrumored exactly as is for like months I think the only the only thing that they

29:01SPEAKERgot wrong is that there was the rumor that it would be called the MacBook

29:04SPEAKERultra mm-hmm which did not come to pass but everything else basically had been

29:08SPEAKERknown for some time does it run iPad apps bread I don't know I well I mean

29:14SPEAKERregular Mac OS kind of does now right but not but it has some real limitations

29:19SPEAKERbecause you're using the touchpad sure sure yeah like I think I want to say

29:23SPEAKERlike isn't what's app like a universal app across Mac OS and iPad now I'm not

29:28SPEAKERokay sure I think that's the case I'm I don't I haven't looked too much into the

29:32SPEAKERback end of how the apps are like packaged and distributed okay across

29:36SPEAKERtheir stuff but so I actually don't know about that here I so the thing the thing

29:42SPEAKERI'll say I was I was gonna reassure you on this if you were feeling bad about

29:45SPEAKERyour purchase I'll explain my rationale but go ahead I've used a lot of Windows

29:50SPEAKERlaptops in the last couple years because when I was at PC world like there were

29:54SPEAKERlaptops were plentiful and I was encouraged to test and try a bunch of

29:57SPEAKERdifferent stuff I hate touch screens on laptops yeah I mean I've never used one

30:03SPEAKERso I can't say tangibly but I feel like I also would I I find them like on a

30:10SPEAKERlaptop that can convert into it like a convertible that has a tablet component

30:15SPEAKERthat's I'm okay with that yeah that works that's a bush case but like am I

30:20SPEAKERever going to take my hands off of the keyboard and trackpad what worked good

30:25SPEAKERand move my fingers up onto the screen no that's psycho behavior don't do that

30:29SPEAKERdon't touch the screen man yeah that was a big part of my decision-making was I

30:33SPEAKERasked myself because can I ever see myself wanting to use a touchscreen on

30:37SPEAKERa laptop the answer was a resounding no I mean I guess we should say what's new

30:40SPEAKERin this yeah it's it is it is the first touch screen a MacBook but it's also the

30:45SPEAKERfirst OLED display in a MacBook really yes that's wild yeah they've been on LCD

30:50SPEAKERI mean very very nice LCDs for some time like to be clear like they they have

30:55SPEAKERreally good mini LED backlights and ProMotion you know 120 Hertz and yeah an

30:59SPEAKERHDR like that the LCDs look very good I had no idea I assume they switched out

31:03SPEAKEROLEDs when the iPads did no the phones and tablets phones and iPads have been

31:08SPEAKERon OLED for quite a while now but that had never gotten to the MacBook but I

31:14SPEAKERdidn't want to buy in the first day first-gen redesign of a laptop that I'm

31:19SPEAKERgonna have for like probably quite a while yeah you tend to keep laptops four

31:23SPEAKERor five years right yeah yes I definitely am planning to cling to this

31:26SPEAKERm5 Pro for dear life until things hopefully look it might be the fastest

31:30SPEAKERcomputer we make it seems like maybe maybe consumer processors are on the way

31:34SPEAKERout so yeah that's God that is a whole other topic man yeah that's what about

31:38SPEAKERthat a few weeks oh boy but what's okay so OLED screen yeah screen dynamic

31:47SPEAKERisland now they have moved away from the notch to the little pinhole camera that

31:51SPEAKERthey build the dynamic island around on the phones I don't mind that on the

31:54SPEAKERphone and that feels really stupid to me on a laptop yeah it seems weird to me I

31:58SPEAKERdon't even see the notch on mine because I just run a black menu bar at the top

32:03SPEAKERthat hides it so you don't even know that it's there it's lighter it's

32:07SPEAKERactually like kind of substantially like half a pound lighter okay you know in a

32:13SPEAKERsituation where if the laptop is only three three and a half pounds to begin

32:16SPEAKERwith half a pound is like fairly substantial that's a big drop yeah I

32:20SPEAKERthink that's everything new about it except there's also the $500 increase in

32:26SPEAKERthe base price I mean look that was to be expected well yeah totally but but

32:32SPEAKERfor me personally none of that shit is even close to justifying an extra 500

32:37SPEAKERoh yeah no no so the point is and then I'll say quickly about the OLED they

32:42SPEAKERApple gestured toward burn-in protection on this and that's kind of part of my

32:49SPEAKERthinking about not wanting a first-gen brand-new design OLED laptop like I

32:54SPEAKERdon't want a laptop with a screen that can't be replaced where I'm worried

32:56SPEAKERabout burn-in I look I would be worried about that except for they've managed

33:02SPEAKERthis incredibly well on the iOS and iPad OS side for the last decade so I'm not

33:06SPEAKERwrong but but but combined with the extreme price increase and all the other

33:09SPEAKERstuff we have 500 bucks what is where does it start this is a pro so it's

33:13SPEAKERgonna be expensive yeah I don't think you can get a regular m5 configuration

33:18SPEAKERon this I think it starts with an m5 Pro yeah that's how is that how the pros

33:22SPEAKERusually workers oh no it's very confusing and in fact the way they

33:26SPEAKERstagger the product rollouts these days is even more confusing they launch in

33:31SPEAKERwhatever devices just flat in like m5 for example they'll put out like macbook

33:36SPEAKERerrors and regular pros or I'm sorry pros with like the regular m5 first okay

33:41SPEAKERand then the m5 Pro and m5 max follow like three to six months later so you

33:46SPEAKERcan you can get you can get a MacBook Pro with a non pro processor for several

33:52SPEAKERmonths before you can get got it yeah it's confusing so then so then this is

33:56SPEAKERgonna be the high-end MacBook Pro yeah yeah without with that with the pros

34:00SPEAKERyes presumably at some point this will come down to all of the the m5 pros or

34:06SPEAKERmaybe they're gonna segment the line yeah that had been the rumor going up to

34:10SPEAKERthis was that this was going to just be a new higher tier kind of stratum in

34:15SPEAKERtheir pricing stack great year to add a extra layer of price on top of your

34:20SPEAKERhardware so the 14-inch of this starts at 2900

34:24SPEAKERholy cow somebody don't have it in front of me right now somebody did the like

34:30SPEAKERhow expensive grand yeah it's like $14,000 is the most expensive spec you

34:35SPEAKERcan get these things like I've recently had cars that were less expensive than

34:39SPEAKERthat yeah but but anyway that's insane it's it's it's interesting oh you know

34:44SPEAKERI'm curious to see how popular it is and what the demand is or whatever but it's

34:47SPEAKERjust it's a lot of stuff I don't care about I was very happy to buy into a

34:52SPEAKERdesign that has been around for several years and is quite proven yeah I look I

34:57SPEAKERdon't for me the touchscreen is interesting if they build a design that

35:02SPEAKERlets you have one device instead of having an iPad and a laptop right and

35:06SPEAKERand this is this from everything I could see this didn't seem to be that though

35:11SPEAKERwhich you know oh yeah it's just a laptop with a touchscreen which is

35:15SPEAKERliterally a feature on like $800 laptops on the on the windows side so yeah yeah

35:20SPEAKERgood luck guys this ours write-up says the Steve Jobs was famously opposed to

35:25SPEAKERtouch screens on laptops he did he thought touch screens on laptops were

35:28SPEAKERincredibly stupid and said so publicly for years yeah well okay then yep John

35:35SPEAKERTernus reign of terror has begun look this is but realist I saw so much of

35:40SPEAKERthat the this is realistically the end of the Tim Apple era not the beginning

35:44SPEAKERof the John Ternus area in the works for a long time yeah of course speaking of

35:50SPEAKERthe end of the the Tim Apple era should we talk about the iPhone duo and the

35:53SPEAKERchallenge the hinge related challenges it's having sure so the phone came out

35:59SPEAKERlast week the normal iFixit teardown and dust test happened there's also a

36:04SPEAKERyoutuber named Jerry rig everything who is a like he makes stuff and he breaks

36:11SPEAKERthings and he's a he's generally a colorful guy he did his dust test which

36:17SPEAKERis more like he did basically takes out to the beach and throws it in some sand

36:20SPEAKERand stuff and and it's been interesting seeing the commonalities between this

36:27SPEAKERparticular folding phone this is this is the folding iPhone for folks who don't

36:33SPEAKERknow what the duo is between this folding phone and the Samsung and Google

36:38SPEAKERand the other folding phones on the Android side of the market and and they

36:41SPEAKERdo have some commonalities the big one is that you know none of these screens

36:45SPEAKERactually fold right like you they make a teardrop shape they have a hinge that

36:50SPEAKERfolds on that has a flat area and then two edges that fold up and there's the

36:54SPEAKERthe actual screen makes a teardrop shape inside the that kind of boxy hinge that

37:01SPEAKERthat you get and there's a lot of springs and mechanics and stuff like

37:04SPEAKERthat that make the hinge work and and prevent the keep the phone from keep let

37:09SPEAKERthe phone Bend without let the screen Bend without letting stuff into the into

37:14SPEAKERthe gap between the screen and the and the rest of the stuff and it seems like

37:19SPEAKERa lot of people have had they report a crunching sound and then there's a big

37:25SPEAKERgreen line or a big colored line across this pretty much the same spot on most

37:31SPEAKERof these phones on the inner screen and and so the inner screen on these isn't

37:36SPEAKERit's not a glass cover it's like got this nano coating thing that's there

37:40SPEAKERthere is glass in it it's not your typical like phone glass it's really

37:44SPEAKERthick and and obviously not bendy it's a it's a different kind of material so the

37:51SPEAKERthe assumption from both the iFixit teardown and the JerryRig video is that

37:56SPEAKERthere's a problem in a specific area of the hinge that if dust or sand or

38:03SPEAKERsomething gets in there will cause the screen to fail in a in a very

38:07SPEAKERpredictable way now I will say there was a lot of news about this last week it

38:12SPEAKERwas like it was dominating my YouTube feeds and I was seeing a lot of like

38:16SPEAKERtech blogs write about it absolutely nothing has happened this week so it's

38:19SPEAKERunclear to like this is this is all whenever there's new hardware and

38:23SPEAKERthere's some sort of fault it's always hard to tell whether it's like a whole

38:26SPEAKERbunch of people having this problem or like like a statistically significant

38:30SPEAKERnumber of people having this problem or if it's just like a handful that give

38:34SPEAKERthe YouTube rage machine something to yell about yeah I mean I'm looking at a

38:39SPEAKERpicture of this on this reddit post somebody that had this happen and this

38:43SPEAKERis pretty egregious I feel like this is kind of this is sort of a folding phone

38:47SPEAKERyou had one job and it was to fold cleanly on a $2,100 base phone it seems

38:53SPEAKERlike a big mess up now it will say Apple is replacing the screens sure on even if

38:59SPEAKERyou don't have Apple care like you just take it and they give you they fix it

39:01SPEAKERfix it sometimes the weights are longer than you might like because the phone's

39:05SPEAKERstill in pretty high demand so yeah it's it's worth reading the iFixit teardown

39:11SPEAKERwas really interesting I thought they described this as the easiest to repair

39:14SPEAKERfolding phone they've ever seen but they still gave it a five five out of ten

39:19SPEAKERwhich is which is pretty low so it's like one of those like a little bit of a

39:23SPEAKERmixed bag I guess the I linked to the 9 to 5 Mac kind of summary of the iFixit

39:31SPEAKERteardown because iFixit teardowns are pretty substantial and the 9 to 5 Mac

39:35SPEAKERfolks do a nice nice summary of the of the whole thing but it seems like

39:39SPEAKERthere's a specific place in the hinge where some cables and some different

39:42SPEAKERstuff come in there's a bunch of other interesting tech in there about how this

39:46SPEAKERthing works they do they do a novel sub pixel arrangement so that the fold the

39:51SPEAKERcrease from the fold if you've never seen one of these folding phones they

39:54SPEAKERalways end up with like a spot where the bend happens that is visibly apparent

39:59SPEAKERlike Adam Patrick Murray over PC world has carried these for years and his

40:04SPEAKERalways have like a bendy spot on them that would make me absolutely crazy

40:07SPEAKERapparently the iPhone has like a nano layer that that helps diffuse that that

40:13SPEAKERthe damage from the creasing and then there's also some stuff that happens on

40:17SPEAKERthe screen and all sorts of other stuff that's going on that helps minimize the

40:20SPEAKERimpact of that yeah I think I saw a super zoomed in shot of like the sub

40:25SPEAKERpixels are not symmetrical the blue ones are oval and arranged in weird ways

40:31SPEAKERapparently like they they're they're they're not symmetrical and they lean in

40:34SPEAKERdifferent directions based on where they are on the screen which is crazy yeah

40:37SPEAKERit's it's it's really fascinating because it's obviously an OLED screen

40:41SPEAKERthe big kind of the rule on these is that they're set up so you can bend them

40:47SPEAKERin on one axis at a time so if you bend it on two axes axes it's gonna be bad

40:52SPEAKERfor it but if you just spend it on the one which is what the hinge is designed

40:54SPEAKERto force it to do it seems fine I'm still I'm really curious about this one

41:00SPEAKERI had actually been to an Apple store I keep meaning to go in and and spend a

41:04SPEAKERminute or two poking at it to see what I actually think about it I saw a guy at

41:07SPEAKERthe basketball game last week that had one and we were talking about it and and

41:13SPEAKERhe had literally picked it up like the evening before so he'd had it for ten

41:17SPEAKERhours or something but it's a weird shape like I don't know if like I don't

41:21SPEAKERknow anyway it's a weird it's a weird product I'm yeah like no face ID is kind

41:25SPEAKERof a deal breaker for me but the rest of it seems neat hmm yeah I like touch ID

41:31SPEAKERyeah I don't know if I can go back at this point hmm I think about all the

41:35SPEAKERtimes I use it like when I'm paying for stuff and all that and like I don't want

41:38SPEAKERto have to always like where the touch ID sensor is is not super convenient

41:42SPEAKERyeah fair fair anyway that's that I I think Apple has learned to rework this

41:50SPEAKERstuff in a way that feels less gross than it used to be where they would deny

41:53SPEAKERthat there was a problem for three months and everybody had have a busted

41:55SPEAKERass expensive phone you're falling you're wrong yeah yeah exactly exactly

42:02SPEAKERshould we talk about reddit becoming a logged in only experience sure that seems

42:05SPEAKERnotable I think that this is the new normal for the internet actually I just

42:10SPEAKERlaunched the take control podcast and the blog immediately even before I'd

42:14SPEAKERposted about it anywhere I was getting enormous amounts of traffic just from AI

42:19SPEAKERcrawlers hmm and the recommend the best practice for how to fix that is to log

42:24SPEAKERin everywhere and apparently reddit has come to the same conclusion oh that's a

42:27SPEAKERbummer because I don't have any times I've gotten to some site that once I hit

42:32SPEAKERa kind of login prompt wall decided that I would just leave rather than make it

42:36SPEAKERanother account yeah it's it's or maybe maybe this place is more emphasis on the

42:41SPEAKERI don't know if there's a name for the kind of the platform level account login

42:45SPEAKERlike you know Apple know on stuff is that Oh off like you come basically you

42:49SPEAKERknow you sign in with your Google login or your Apple or whatever mm-hmm but I

42:53SPEAKERtend to avoid those if I can help it but I don't maybe that's maybe that is a

42:57SPEAKERwrong behavior I think the OAuth logins are fine there they tie you to that

43:01SPEAKERplatform so like I don't ever use Apple in case I ever want to change to an

43:05SPEAKERAndroid phone because it'll be a huge pain in the ass to get my OAuth lock ins

43:09SPEAKERfrom Apple account to if I don't have Apple devices anymore I think I think

43:15SPEAKERthat like in my eyes they're a convenience the thing that I hate more

43:19SPEAKERthan anything is that hey just type is give us your email address and we'll

43:21SPEAKERsend you a code every time you want to log in and I realize that my my take

43:25SPEAKERcontrol site does that for users I'm sorry but it's just the way it goes to

43:28SPEAKERworks unfortunately it's the way a lot of stuff works because it's easier than

43:31SPEAKERsaving and kind of safer than saving passwords for people it turns out sure

43:35SPEAKERbut yeah so they they blamed it on AI crawlers they also reported their

43:40SPEAKERnumbers and their daily active users are in a pretty sharp decline it seems like

43:45SPEAKERyeah well I shouldn't say wow I mean that's basically happening to everybody

43:49SPEAKERon the internet I just kind of maybe assumed reddit was too big for that to

43:53SPEAKERaffect them that much but well so they they explicitly cited search traffic as

43:58SPEAKERbeing down meaningfully yeah I mean that makes that makes sense cuz like you know

44:02SPEAKERit's become kind of like accepted common wisdom that like searching for like

44:08SPEAKERthing you have a problem with reddit is kind of the way to find help with like

44:13SPEAKERthat's just sort of a thing that's passed around these days so if there's a

44:16SPEAKERsharp fall off on people doing that I can definitely see it well one of the

44:19SPEAKERother pieces of common wisdom is that if you want to change the AI results for

44:23SPEAKERyou for a topic the easiest way to do it is to get something placed on reddit

44:27SPEAKERsure so on a big reddit they they're also as part of this they're also

44:33SPEAKERkilling feature access to the old reddit so if you don't like the new reddit

44:37SPEAKERredesign from like I guess two years ago at this point you've always been able to

44:41SPEAKERgo to old dot reddit dot whatever the URL was and get the old style like web

44:45SPEAKER2.0 early web 2.0 flat flat files and that included a lot of like AI a lot of

44:52SPEAKERAPI access as well that was that they limited when they turned off API access

44:56SPEAKERto third-party clients a few years ago it's a problem for folks like like I use

45:01SPEAKERthat glances app thing to make a homepage and it means I'm updating way

45:05SPEAKERmore often now to to actually get the like I will often log in in the morning

45:12SPEAKERor a couple times in the last month I've logged in and it's like hey your reddit

45:15SPEAKERfeeds are like three days old what's going on and then I look at the log and

45:18SPEAKERit's like oh we will pull anything because the API endpoint changed so it

45:23SPEAKERseems bad for reddit yeah seems like a lot of things are gonna be changing on

45:27SPEAKERthe internet and the years ahead it bums me out because they've done stuff that's

45:31SPEAKERlike they've consistently made the reading experience on that site less

45:35SPEAKERfriendly over the last couple of three years and now it seems like that the

45:41SPEAKERthe question I have is whether the web traffic going down is actually because

45:46SPEAKERof the AI search or because they've made the site less friendly or what it's it's

45:50SPEAKERhard to know anyway it does seem like we were losing a fountain a foundational

45:57SPEAKERwebsite though you know the thing that became the message board for the entire

46:00SPEAKERinternet is going to shit and that seems bad maybe we should just go back to

46:04SPEAKERhaving a bunch of distributed message boards maybe right you know what I still

46:08SPEAKERlike a forum I I do I'll still scroll the forum thread it's one of the

46:13SPEAKERconversations we're having on the on the take control thing is whether I should

46:15SPEAKERjust set up a message board and get rid of the discord yeah Google financials

46:20SPEAKERcame out last week and they agree that that AI mode doesn't drive traffic

46:27SPEAKERanywhere it's impacting their search business even an interesting position

46:31SPEAKERfor one of the main purveyors of AI search results yeah it's weird and kind

46:36SPEAKERof strange that maybe like the left hand didn't know what the right hand was

46:39SPEAKERdoing in the business model well so the interesting thing about that is some

46:43SPEAKERthings are not it seems like if you search for specific things maybe that

46:46SPEAKERare tied to the ad dollar you don't get AI results now automatically interesting

46:50SPEAKERthey're also putting more ads on each search results page so you know they're

46:55SPEAKERbreaking up for the volume it turns out they're just their response to

47:00SPEAKERincentivizing their own product is to just further and shit if I it too you

47:04SPEAKERcan always in chocolate or yeah I I'm gonna check right now in my browser

47:09SPEAKERwhile we're talking about it okay yes indeed I still so I have you done this

47:15SPEAKERI've been using for quite some time a custom Google search engine in Chrome

47:20SPEAKERthe udm14 yes yeah exactly the little flag that disables the AI results yeah

47:25SPEAKERit still works well so I was double checking to make sure I have that

47:28SPEAKERenabled I'm not sure that it does anymore oh really okay well I just

47:35SPEAKERsearched for apple pie and did not get anything I'd swear I could be wrong but

47:40SPEAKERI'd swear I've started seeing the AI summaries pop up again even using that

47:44SPEAKERudm14 kind of bypass custom search I could be wrong about that because now

47:50SPEAKERthat I'm trying it live here I'm not seeing it I I switched to kagi a couple

47:55SPEAKERmonths ago so I'm good yeah I search unless I actively seek it out yeah I I

48:00SPEAKERdon't necessarily product yeah yeah I don't necessarily love defaulting to

48:05SPEAKERGoogle or Chrome but I just never have time to go through credible alternatives

48:10SPEAKERso let me tell you about Firefox they they pop up a thing in your browser a

48:15SPEAKERcouple days ago it's like hey tell your friends about Firefox bring it back it's

48:18SPEAKERgood it's good over here I yeah it's it's okay over here is what I'll say as

48:23SPEAKERa yes a longtime Firefox user I don't know so far as good particularly as a

48:27SPEAKERuser of a lot of different video calls yeah Firefox is less than ideal I have

48:32SPEAKERchromium installed for video calls yeah yeah I mean it's I can always just keep

48:35SPEAKERthe browser around for things that don't work but it is so much more streamlined

48:40SPEAKERto just use the browser that everything is tested in and works right in on the

48:44SPEAKERon the election tip and the Google tip I'm really excited to have the hearings

48:48SPEAKERabout why Google wouldn't say why Google's AI wouldn't say who won the

48:51SPEAKER2020 election early last week now that's fascinating that's a fascinating topic I

48:56SPEAKERthink has anybody done a maps check if we know if we noted whether Gulf of

49:01SPEAKERAmerica still exists or God what did they was that was the was the lake one

49:06SPEAKERjust like America is that what they went with that and like that's so fucking

49:10SPEAKERhorribly uncreated no it still says Gulf of America yeah well stay tuned perhaps

49:17SPEAKERkeep the Mad King happy it still says Lake America - that's really stupid

49:22SPEAKERanyway should we talk about we both tested a couple of things true a couple

49:29SPEAKERof quick hits here yes I bought a new network card for my server that I think

49:33SPEAKERis worth spending five minutes on ooh I've talked about this before you know

49:38SPEAKERI've got the NAS server sitting here with all the storage in it it connects

49:41SPEAKERto my PC with a direct network connection to mount the shares over use

49:45SPEAKERoptical for that no I was using direct attach copper okay you could you

49:50SPEAKERbasically do that or fiber so I had Mellanox cards Mellanox you know it was

49:54SPEAKERa high-end like enterprise level networking company that is now owned by

49:58SPEAKERNvidia but they've been making like very fast network cards for servers like

50:02SPEAKERenterprise data center type servers for a very long time one of the two Mellanox

50:07SPEAKERcards I was using stopped working and the one in my windows PC no no and I

50:11SPEAKERcould not figure out why and kind of gave up on trying to figure out why but

50:15SPEAKERalso old right so you so yes I think they're only 2012 or something so the

50:18SPEAKERother thing is they are quite old and as you can imagine also being data center

50:23SPEAKERparts they pulled like 12 watts apiece or some holy cow it's a lot they needed

50:27SPEAKERcooling like like I needed to I had to put a fan in there to point at those

50:32SPEAKERnetwork cards and also the drive for the controller card you know the SAS

50:35SPEAKERcontroller in my in my NAS also a data center part those cards are not made to

50:41SPEAKERrun without the good airflow yeah they generate a lot of heat anyway so I was

50:45SPEAKERlike I was like yeah you know I can't figure out why this car is not working

50:49SPEAKERand also these things draw a lot of power or maybe I will try to figure

50:52SPEAKERsomething else out okay my motherboard already has a 10 gigabit ethernet port

50:57SPEAKERon it oh so I've mentioned this recently but real tech has got a new 10 gigabit

51:06SPEAKERethernet part out there like controller chip yeah we talked about it which yeah

51:10SPEAKERI basically I bought one of those cards like those things are just kind of

51:14SPEAKEReverywhere now on Amazon and related places yeah and it was only 50 bucks

51:19SPEAKERlike those cards are basically 40 to 50 dollars depending on if you get a truly

51:24SPEAKERno-name one like busy zoo you might you gotta get that easy zoo you might pay

51:30SPEAKERlike 40 bucks I got a 10g tech which is only slightly more of a known name brand

51:34SPEAKERokay which was 49 these are just like like OEM cards with the real tech

51:40SPEAKERbasically yeah so the 10 the 10g tech card actually visually looked identical

51:45SPEAKERto the busy zoo okay I thought it might have like slightly better return policy

51:50SPEAKERyou're right yes they're all basically the same board design but so I'm

51:54SPEAKERmentioned this last time we talked about this but the big deal about these new

51:57SPEAKERreal tech chips is 10 gigabit over twisted pair you know over like standard

52:02SPEAKERinternet cat6 has yeah exactly has been super power hungry pretty much right up

52:07SPEAKERuntil now like they just pull a ton of wattage and are very hot but yeah my

52:13SPEAKERunderstanding is the cables even get warm right right so so these these new

52:16SPEAKERreal tech chips that have come out in the last like six eight months or

52:19SPEAKERwhatever are less than two watts for the chip oh wow and I guess the whole this

52:24SPEAKERis coming from a breakdown that serve the home did and the whole board only

52:29SPEAKERpulls three to four watts so that's pretty good wow that's that's impressive

52:33SPEAKERyeah and like I said the the card itself is only 50 bucks and they said serve the

52:38SPEAKERhome said the part cost for the chip is like under $10 and that was like at

52:42SPEAKERlaunch so I bet we're and the other exciting thing about these things is

52:48SPEAKERthey're their PCI Express for okay but they only use one lane oh that's nice

52:54SPEAKERwell huge but I mean usually usually the segmenting on the consumer motherboards

52:59SPEAKERhappens when you just plug something into the slot so like like on my board

53:04SPEAKERif I plug in a card into the wrong slot it'll cut my my video card slot 8x or

53:09SPEAKERwhatever yeah but I mean like people have done the testing on that like the

53:14SPEAKERoh it's fine pretty much even like a 50 90 is fine it totally lines yeah so

53:19SPEAKERthat's really not a huge problem but but this this is a way bigger deal for

53:23SPEAKERfuture motherboards that use this chip and also like little tiny yeah you know

53:28SPEAKERlike mini PC type things that are that are much more constrained on PCIe lanes

53:32SPEAKERyeah that's exciting yeah cuz like you look at like a Wildcat Lake or something

53:35SPEAKERthat's a limited number of well Wildcat Lake has six lanes total so like that

53:39SPEAKERmeans you could put two 10 gigabit interfaces on one of those boxes and

53:42SPEAKERstill have USB for yeah I still have four lanes left over for drives and

53:46SPEAKERstuff but some interesting there is the weird aspect to this of real tech has

53:52SPEAKERalways been seen as the kind of crappy budget option compared to like the better

53:55SPEAKERIntel network controllers how's the perf so I just put it in last night I spent

54:01SPEAKERvery little time testing it but so I've got kind of a crappy Marvell 10 gigabit

54:07SPEAKERport on my motherboard I've gotten and now I've got this real tech one in the

54:10SPEAKERserver and also this is like very well supported in Linux already yeah like I

54:14SPEAKERkind of didn't have to do anything it just worked nice it's like I've I perfed

54:19SPEAKERit and also mounted the SMB shares over this new connection and like I'm getting

54:23SPEAKERpretty much a solid 10 gigabit both directions like quite quite reliably so

54:28SPEAKERfar I've had like one hiccup where a file copy stalled for a few seconds but

54:33SPEAKERbut other than that it's like basically saturated the length all time that's

54:37SPEAKERawesome so yeah like 50 bucks for low wattage seemingly fairly reliable 10

54:44SPEAKERgigabit ethernet seems like a pretty big deal like I bet I bet we're gonna see a

54:49SPEAKERlot more motherboards shipping with 10 gigabit ports in the future because of

54:52SPEAKERthis thing I mean like there's a couple of lines that have had them reliably

54:56SPEAKERlike I think the Asus pro art ones have at least five and usually ten now so

55:01SPEAKERyeah but so everybody's been using these Marvell chips yeah now which are seem

55:05SPEAKERmine has mostly been okay but I've seen a lot of complaints about reliability on

55:10SPEAKERthose things and it seems like a lot of that comes down to heat yeah I don't use

55:13SPEAKERthe Marvell chip on my pro art board it turns out so yeah time will tell how

55:17SPEAKERthat thing does it 10 gigabits but the but the real tech in the in the server

55:20SPEAKERseems good last thing I'll say real quick I need to look into this a little

55:23SPEAKERmore as I am like very slowly inching my way toward rolling my own router yeah

55:30SPEAKERyou start have to you start having to really look at the innards of the

55:34SPEAKERnetwork hardware on those things oh yeah and because like I've had to become

55:37SPEAKERacquainted with the concept of send and receive cues on the NIC on the network

55:42SPEAKERcontroller because like basically I think that has to do with like how it

55:49SPEAKERbuffers packets coming in like the more basically the more cues you have on the

55:52SPEAKERchip the better it can handle like heavy traffic yeah coming in and so like the

55:57SPEAKERold real tech parts are pretty crappy about that compared to yeah you know I

56:01SPEAKERwon't babble too much more about it because I barely understand it right now

56:04SPEAKERbut like seeing what the network controller is capable of seems like kind

56:10SPEAKERof a big prerequisite to selecting hardware for something critical like a

56:14SPEAKERrouter when you're running like this is why I like I kind of like the idea of

56:18SPEAKERbuying the router hardware and then putting your own OS on it right yeah

56:21SPEAKERbecause then you then you have somebody who presumably like microcheck or

56:25SPEAKERwhoever knows how who knows what they're doing and you don't have to do that work

56:28SPEAKERbut like I also get the instinct to go and dig into the whole thing and get

56:33SPEAKERyour hands real dirty so yeah well I mean I should say the reason that I'm

56:36SPEAKERdigging into this so much right now is that I inherited oh right and I've got a

56:40SPEAKERhand-me-down mini PC and that's got it's got one good Intel port on it but also

56:46SPEAKERone of one older real tech port that may not be so great so I'm trying to make

56:50SPEAKERsure just plug a USB C adapter I guess that's that's also an option only okay I

56:56SPEAKERdon't know I actually I actually don't know how those perform I haven't tested

56:59SPEAKERthose in a really long time yeah um that's it that's interesting the $50 or

57:03SPEAKER10 gigabit Ethernet card is it I really wish I hadn't done cat 5e when I did the

57:09SPEAKEREthernet in our house I think I'm pretty sure 5e will do 10 gigabit fine up to a

57:14SPEAKERcertain distance oh really I'm fair I could be wrong about that but I think it

57:20SPEAKERwill you have to upgrade three switches I think which is maybe more than I'm

57:24SPEAKERwilling to do and also none of my hardware in the in the I think my I

57:28SPEAKERthink my NAS will do 2.5 or 5 I can't remember okay but anyway not five it's

57:33SPEAKERnot bad either yeah I'm seeing like here's a level 1 text form thread that

57:37SPEAKERsays you can do 10 gigabit over cat 5e up to 45 meters oh that's less than I

57:42SPEAKERwould have to go that's for reliable 10 gigabit you need a shielded cable it

57:47SPEAKERsays I have shielded cables yeah at five count well yeah okay that's what it's

57:50SPEAKERworth a shot yeah okay I have a steam frame update I the zenny lens inserts

57:57SPEAKERwhich are the ones that valve officially supports they rolled out with a lower

58:02SPEAKERprescription than works for me so you had to be under six diopters if you're

58:07SPEAKERnear-sighted for them to work and I'm not like six point seven five yikes is

58:11SPEAKERthat is that measured in the same terms as you see on the like the contact lens

58:16SPEAKERbox or whatever yeah yeah that's it man okay you're definitely worse than me

58:21SPEAKERyeah my glasses are thick I'm like 4.5 yeah so they go up to I think 8 now

58:28SPEAKERnegative 8 now if you they've been they've been gradually increasing the

58:32SPEAKERthe kind of strength of the prescription that they can accommodate in the in the

58:36SPEAKERlens adapters so I got a pair they snap in on the like the frame the thing that

58:43SPEAKERholds the lens frame inside the goggles you just kind of friction fit this

58:48SPEAKERplastic thing on and that's it they go on and then you don't wear your glasses

58:53SPEAKERinside the VR headset I've never I've never had a pair of lenses for

58:57SPEAKERprescription lenses for VR headset before and I will tell you it is

59:01SPEAKERabsolutely transformative yep I bet I hate having to deal with calling my

59:05SPEAKERglasses always immediately get smudged inside the headset it's not even the

59:09SPEAKERsmudging it's like the pressure on your face is so much from like having them on

59:12SPEAKERthere and yeah it's it's really good the zenny lenses I think are around 65 or 70

59:17SPEAKERdollars depending on the prescription and they came in like four days and I

59:22SPEAKERsnapped them on and I've been using the headset a lot more as a result and no

59:26SPEAKERproblems with correction or anything no I don't so I don't have a complicated

59:30SPEAKERprescription well thanks Siri I don't have a complicated prescription I just

59:34SPEAKERhave a it's just big so and and like you don't have to worry about IPD and stuff

59:40SPEAKERlike that with this because the IPD and the headsets adjustable so you you know

59:44SPEAKERthey just Center the lenses and it works pretty well the the other thing I was

59:49SPEAKERable to do is I was able to take out the spacer so they valve provides this this

59:54SPEAKERplastic thing that goes between the padding and the the lens for people who

59:59SPEAKERwear glasses to give you just like an extra half inch of space in there and so

1:00:03SPEAKERwithout the spacer the FOV is much better not much better but like

1:00:07SPEAKERnoticeably better on the on the headset so sure the whole thing is much more

1:00:12SPEAKERcomfortable to wear when you're not jamming in glasses in there it turns out

1:00:15SPEAKERthat's cool I next time I get an eye exam I might get some inserts for the

1:00:19SPEAKERps4 r2 although saying about out loud it's just gonna lead to people in the

1:00:22SPEAKERdiscord yelling at me about not using the ps4 r2 again well I mean I think

1:00:26SPEAKERhave you have you plugged the ps4 r2 into your PC yeah yeah but not modern

1:00:31SPEAKERalmost never use it but like yeah occasionally you should play Alex if

1:00:34SPEAKERnothing else yeah yes well that is the context in which I got yelled at was the

1:00:39SPEAKERlast time I said I got that thing because they did they did make it better

1:00:42SPEAKERyeah like that thing was pretty rough when that PC adapter first came out but

1:00:46SPEAKERit's it's quite usable now but last time I said that people were like no you

1:00:49SPEAKERshould you should really play Alex on like that's the VR game you should play

1:00:53SPEAKERit on better hardware but I mean it is the VR like it is it is I I hadn't

1:00:58SPEAKERtouched it in a few years it's remains pretty remarkable bums me out that that

1:01:01SPEAKERroad is closed pretty much yeah yeah but I also let me then to your point about

1:01:06SPEAKERthat road being closed I kind of don't care enough about VR to get another

1:01:09SPEAKERheadset like this one is pretty good and I've got it already yeah so I also

1:01:15SPEAKERtested some other stuff people had questions about Linux and frame

1:01:17SPEAKERstreaming they've been updating support for the streaming adapter the little

1:01:23SPEAKERdongle that you have it's still doesn't work right on my Linux machine I think

1:01:28SPEAKERit is supposed to work on the steam machine but I didn't actually test that

1:01:32SPEAKERyou don't they don't let you flip the pyro wave flag on on that frame either

1:01:37SPEAKERyou can do it on the server side but not on the client side so I don't know I

1:01:41SPEAKERdon't know if that's a hardware limitation or if they just know that

1:01:45SPEAKERthat's a Wi-Fi device and they're not flipping it on for Wi-Fi although I have

1:01:49SPEAKERhad really good luck on Wi-Fi streaming to the stream deck at low resolutions

1:01:53SPEAKERwith the pyro wave codec we talked about that a few months ago if people don't

1:01:57SPEAKERknow generally speaking the UI like the software the steam implementation for

1:02:02SPEAKERthat feels a lot less janky now they've added some more granularity to the like

1:02:07SPEAKERare you're using your controllers as a gamepad or using your controllers as

1:02:11SPEAKERhand controllers and stuff like that although I still hit snags fairly

1:02:17SPEAKERregularly like to launch a game in Star Wars squadrons I have to walk it if it's

1:02:21SPEAKERstreaming I have to walk in and hit it on the keyboard and mouse or you or use

1:02:26SPEAKERthe keyboard because the game thinks it has hand controllers and the the steam

1:02:32SPEAKERthinks it's a it's a gamepad and even when you switch it it doesn't seem to

1:02:36SPEAKERchange so there's there's something janky there and like that game is never

1:02:39SPEAKERgonna get updated again I don't think and the in the modern EA context so I'm

1:02:44SPEAKERsurprised to hear you're still playing it dude go and tell you put on the

1:02:49SPEAKERheadset sit down in the in the tie fighter cockpit okay fair are you just

1:02:53SPEAKERdoing like skirmish stuff or campaign mostly doing campaign nobody's playing

1:02:57SPEAKERmultiplayer at this point I have to assume so there's a really dedicated

1:03:00SPEAKERsubreddit of people that do like squadron Saturdays or something and I

1:03:05SPEAKERhaven't had a chance to play yet also the last time I tried to play that game

1:03:08SPEAKERmultiplayer I got I had the complete Robin Williams playing quake experience

1:03:12SPEAKERwhere like the moment I left the hangar I just got owned and was like I'm I've

1:03:16SPEAKERmissed the skill window on this game so yeah I'm just gonna play the single

1:03:20SPEAKERplayer campaign yeah maybe I should I should try that in VR that does sound

1:03:24SPEAKERkind of dude is it is as a as a fellow kid who grew up with Star Wars there's

1:03:29SPEAKERsomething really magical about sitting down like the a-wing is the best because

1:03:33SPEAKERhas that bubble cockpit and you like you have huge field of view when you have

1:03:36SPEAKERthe goggles on mm-hmm but but yeah that game that game owns I did play it on

1:03:41SPEAKERoriginal PS VR on the ps4 but yeah it's a different that's this is a different

1:03:45SPEAKERsure that I'm sure the PC version is substantially better different scope I

1:03:49SPEAKERtried galactic racer again with the flat to VR mod and it is still insanely fast

1:03:53SPEAKERand it's hard to do that sounds that that game is the only thing I've gotten

1:03:59SPEAKERto reliably break the 2d streaming also and then the last news came in as we

1:04:06SPEAKERwere recording you know not a lot of detail here but also how much detail do

1:04:10SPEAKERyou need well there's the one big piece of data was that they expected to sell

1:04:14SPEAKER250,000 of these a year and they've sold 10% of that why are they huh lifetime or

1:04:21SPEAKERit's my understanding like that's what that's the data I saw in the story from

1:04:25SPEAKERelectric which is the electric car blog we're talking about the Cybertruck it's

1:04:29SPEAKERcanceled you know they're not making it anymore

1:04:31SPEAKERno Elon Musk spent too much money on the election now can't afford to make ugly

1:04:35SPEAKERtrucks anymore the vibe shift is real yep they they bundle they bundle the

1:04:42SPEAKERelectric article says that they've bundled sales of the Cybertruck into

1:04:46SPEAKERother models with the high-end cars and the semi for the last quarterly reports

1:04:52SPEAKERwait do they make a semi yeah they make a semi I don't know how many semis

1:04:57SPEAKERthey're making but they have a semi made out of the Gigafactory in Texas they

1:05:01SPEAKERsure do but yeah so they they lowered Model S and Model X production which are

1:05:07SPEAKERthe luxury you know the high-end cars in favor of Y and three but really the idea

1:05:13SPEAKERthat they're only selling seven or eight thousand Cybertrucks a year is kind of

1:05:17SPEAKERkind of amazing their own quarter is amazing to me I'm not super surprising

1:05:21SPEAKERto me what a POS and I guess that's it for us today

1:05:26SPEAKERyep strange times yeah yeah but quite a week write your congressman tell them

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1:06:16SPEAKERcouple of really nice folks who said about last week's episode that we did a

1:06:20SPEAKERpretty good job but that they work in security and if we want to get people

1:06:25SPEAKERwho have like on the ground boots on the ground knowledge for future episodes

1:06:29SPEAKERlike that they are happy to provide either notes or hop on or whatever

1:06:33SPEAKERwhatever that was really kind I would love to pick the brain of somebody who

1:06:36SPEAKERworks in that area I can't imagine the feeling like the folks I know who work

1:06:42SPEAKERin that space are all kind of shell-shocked right now so yeah anyway

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1:07:12SPEAKERthis week I think we might do a car episode next week if we can line up a

1:07:15SPEAKERguest so I'll just tease that now so that it's on the radar all right cars

1:07:19SPEAKERhave tech in them cars are some cars are almost all tech at this point it turns

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