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2026-10-25 · 1:24:31

00:00SPEAKERI've taken a number of 5 AM flights the last few months,

00:03SPEAKERwhich I mentioned this to you before we started.

00:07SPEAKERAnd you said that I'm a maniac, I think were your words.

00:10SPEAKER- Look, live your life in such a way

00:11SPEAKERthat you don't have to take 5 AM flights, that's my motto.

00:14SPEAKER- These were not planned.

00:14SPEAKERLet's say here were these were made under some duress.

00:17SPEAKER- Fair.

00:18SPEAKER- But I have data to report.

00:19SPEAKERWell, how many instances are required

00:22SPEAKERto call it data and not anecdotes?

00:24SPEAKER- Two. - Two?

00:25SPEAKER- You got more than two?

00:26SPEAKER- I think I've got three.

00:28SPEAKER- Did you write it down?

00:29SPEAKER- Yes, I do have three.

00:30SPEAKERI did not write it down,

00:31SPEAKERbut I have a pretty good memory or a lie.

00:33SPEAKER- If you didn't write it down, it's anecdote.

00:34SPEAKERIf you write it down, it's data.

00:36SPEAKER- Oh, I like to think I have a pretty good memory,

00:37SPEAKERbut of course that's what somebody

00:39SPEAKERwith a poor memory would say.

00:41SPEAKER- Look, contrary to what law and order

00:42SPEAKERwould have us believe,

00:44SPEAKERit's much better to have a video

00:46SPEAKERof somebody doing the crime

00:47SPEAKERthan a memory of somebody watching somebody do the crime.

00:50SPEAKER- This testimony about 5 AM flights

00:52SPEAKERis not admissible in a court of law, but okay.

00:55SPEAKER- What's your food strategy for a 5 AM flight?

00:58SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a rough one.

00:58SPEAKER- The airport?

00:59SPEAKER- That's a rough one.

01:00SPEAKERAnd I mean, that's hardly the first issue,

01:03SPEAKERbut I'll just go ahead and address it.

01:06SPEAKERYou can't grab food at the airport by and large

01:08SPEAKERbecause typically nothing is open.

01:10SPEAKERThere's been a couple of cases where I've seen

01:12SPEAKERlike one coffee shop open up at like four or 4.30.

01:16SPEAKERBut the best you're typically doing

01:18SPEAKERis I've been buying a big bag of beef jerky

01:20SPEAKERbefore the flight or before, you know,

01:22SPEAKERlike before I get there and subsisting on,

01:25SPEAKERand maybe some nuts in like a sandwich baggie.

01:27SPEAKERSo it's like yesterday, this is,

01:30SPEAKERI flew back to San Francisco

01:31SPEAKERon one of these flights yesterday

01:32SPEAKERand it was a beef jerky and nuts kind of day.

01:35SPEAKER- So, okay, I have a bunch of follow-up questions here.

01:38SPEAKERWhat's your beef jerky strategy at this point?

01:40SPEAKERAre you getting like, are you getting like branded?

01:42SPEAKERAre you getting like a pemmican

01:43SPEAKERor would you like a Tillamook kind of jerky?

01:45SPEAKER- Jack Links is typically the one I get.

01:48SPEAKER- Okay, I was gonna say I started,

01:50SPEAKERwhen we've been going back and forth to LA,

01:52SPEAKERwhen I started driving back and forth a lot,

01:54SPEAKERlike 10, 12 years ago,

01:56SPEAKERI started buying like the kind of lightly labeled,

01:59SPEAKERclearly made in somebody's garage jerky

02:01SPEAKERfrom the Central Valley and it's life-changing

02:04SPEAKER'cause sometimes it's crunchy,

02:05SPEAKERsometimes it just sucks all the moisture out of your mouth.

02:07SPEAKER- Sure.

02:08SPEAKER- Sometimes it's like so peppery

02:10SPEAKERthat like no human could eat it.

02:11SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, peppery is bad in this situation

02:15SPEAKER'cause you're also pretty limited

02:16SPEAKERon how much liquid you have to consume.

02:18SPEAKER- That's true.

02:19SPEAKER- Okay, we're really burying the lead here though.

02:21SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Which is this.

02:23SPEAKER- Yes, it's a nightmare to have to wake up at 2.30

02:26SPEAKERin the morning.

02:27SPEAKER- Yeah, I just stay up at that point probably.

02:29SPEAKER- In fact, yes, I was gonna say this is really,

02:32SPEAKERI think probably not better than a red eye

02:34SPEAKERin terms of the amount of swell.

02:35SPEAKERIt's pretty, you can at least technically sleep

02:38SPEAKERin your own bed for some number of hours

02:40SPEAKERunless you're like me where you can't sleep

02:41SPEAKERwhen you know you have to get up super early

02:43SPEAKERand you're so nervous about missing your alarm

02:44SPEAKERthat you lie there jittering all night

02:47SPEAKERand can't actually fall asleep.

02:49SPEAKER- Yeah, just keep waking up a little bit

02:50SPEAKERand you're like, roll over, so it's not time yet.

02:52SPEAKER- I'm asleep for another 25 minutes, yeah, that's the worst.

02:54SPEAKER- If you're good at sleeping, you could go to bed

02:56SPEAKERat like nine and get a good five hours of sleep or something.

02:59SPEAKERIt's not that bad, but okay, let me get

03:01SPEAKERto the actual point though.

03:01SPEAKERSo it's, of course it wrecks your sleep.

03:04SPEAKER- Yeah.

03:05SPEAKER- But every one of these trips has been without fail

03:08SPEAKERthe most comfortable airline trips I have had

03:10SPEAKERin like 20 years.

03:12SPEAKER- Like in terms of like number of passengers

03:13SPEAKERand stuff like that.

03:14SPEAKER- Let me put it to you this way.

03:17SPEAKEROn the flight out a few to three weeks ago,

03:20SPEAKERfrom here to Dallas, nobody on either side of me,

03:23SPEAKERI had the whole row, like on my side of the aisle.

03:25SPEAKER- My eyes got huge just for audio listeners.

03:27SPEAKER- Dude, that is nothing.

03:29SPEAKER- Yeah.

03:29SPEAKER- 'Cause flying back yesterday from Charlotte,

03:31SPEAKERNorth Carolina to San Francisco,

03:33SPEAKERwhich is a five and a half hour flight, cross country,

03:37SPEAKERI had the entire row on both sides of the aisle to myself.

03:40SPEAKER- What do you do with the row across from you?

03:42SPEAKER- Well, nothing, I mean, that's, yeah.

03:44SPEAKER- Okay, I was gonna say, like are you putting

03:45SPEAKERthe armrests up and like stretching out across the aisle?

03:48SPEAKER'Cause that's a bit rude.

03:49SPEAKER- You kind of could 'cause the entire back half of the plane

03:51SPEAKERwas basically one person per row.

03:53SPEAKERI have not seen that happen in,

03:55SPEAKERI am telling you like 20 or 25 years.

03:58SPEAKER- So I'm gonna tell you, there's a threshold

03:59SPEAKERbeyond which the flight being too empty creeps me out

04:01SPEAKERand I'm like, maybe I'm gonna get off of this one.

04:03SPEAKER- It was verging on, I mean, don't get me wrong,

04:06SPEAKERI was in my like utterly sleep deprived,

04:10SPEAKERlike 90 minutes of sleep state,

04:11SPEAKERI was, you know, to the extent

04:14SPEAKERthat I could be over the moon, I was over the moon.

04:16SPEAKERBut also yes, but also yes, it was a little bit creepy.

04:19SPEAKERLike I remember post 9/11, but like early enough

04:23SPEAKERthat flying post 9/11 was still novel

04:25SPEAKERand it was before we had to start taking our shoes off

04:27SPEAKERto go through security, so it was like probably early 2002

04:31SPEAKERwould be my guess, I had to fly to New York for something

04:33SPEAKERand I got on a flight that was,

04:36SPEAKERI think it was an early morning one,

04:37SPEAKERI didn't take a lot of red eyes at that point.

04:40SPEAKERAnd there were so few people on the airplane

04:42SPEAKERthat I was like, I don't think I wanna be on this,

04:45SPEAKERlike 'cause there's like, there's actual data about this,

04:48SPEAKERyou know this right?

04:49SPEAKER- Oh.

04:50SPEAKER- Like people cancel, doomed flights, people often cancel.

04:56SPEAKER- Huh. - Yeah.

04:57SPEAKER- What? - Yeah.

04:58SPEAKER- Is this some kind of clairvoyance thing?

05:00SPEAKER- Look, I apologize in advance,

05:03SPEAKERI'm sure I'm gonna get yelled at in the comments on this one

05:05SPEAKERbut when I look this up, somebody told me this

05:07SPEAKERlike 20 years ago when I was on a plane

05:09SPEAKERand I was like, that's crazy and then I looked it up

05:11SPEAKERand I was like, oh wow, okay.

05:13SPEAKERAlmost always, whenever something bad happens on a flight

05:16SPEAKERand there's loss of aircraft or people or whatever,

05:20SPEAKERalmost always fewer people on that flight than the normal.

05:23SPEAKER- Mm. - Yeah.

05:24SPEAKER- I'm an extreme skeptic about such things,

05:26SPEAKERso I'm gonna show off that coincidence but.

05:29SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, coincidence once or twice.

05:32SPEAKERCoincidence on all of them, maybe not, anyway.

05:36SPEAKER- We need to establish a clear cause and effect here though

05:38SPEAKERfor it to meet my bar but anyway,

05:40SPEAKERhey, you know what's pretty awesome

05:41SPEAKERwhen you have to fly cross country

05:43SPEAKERis not having anybody near you for the whole way.

05:46SPEAKER- That does sound like. - It was pretty good.

05:48SPEAKER- My shoulders are wide enough

05:50SPEAKERthat when I'm in the coach in the middle,

05:53SPEAKERI basically am like cockeyed either left forward

05:57SPEAKERor right forward the entire time

05:58SPEAKER'cause I'm always gonna be smashing

05:59SPEAKERinto the person next to me

06:01SPEAKERunless they have a very narrow frame.

06:03SPEAKERSo yeah, I love not having a middle seat,

06:06SPEAKERhaving somebody in the middle.

06:07SPEAKER- One other quick point to make here

06:10SPEAKERis that the previous trip, unfortunately,

06:13SPEAKERhad to book the day before I left.

06:15SPEAKERThis one I booked for about two weeks out

06:17SPEAKERwhich is still pretty close for other reasons.

06:20SPEAKERSo I booked the cheapest like basic economy.

06:23SPEAKERI assume you're familiar with how these work now.

06:25SPEAKER- Yeah.

06:26SPEAKER- Like every airline offers a super dirt cheap

06:29SPEAKERlike bargain basement rates

06:30SPEAKERbut you can't do X, Y, and Z normal things

06:33SPEAKERyou could do with your fare like change and get refunds.

06:35SPEAKER- No bathrooms.

06:37SPEAKER- Yep, that's right.

06:38SPEAKERThey just hand you a bottle when you get on.

06:41SPEAKER- Yeah, it's both in and out, it turns out.

06:44SPEAKERYou can't pick your seats in many cases.

06:46SPEAKERUnited apparently, I almost flew United on this trip,

06:48SPEAKERbut United apparently to this bargain fare

06:52SPEAKERhas added the caveat that you cannot bring a bag on board.

06:56SPEAKER- Yeah, even a shoulder bag, right?

06:58SPEAKER- You can bring your personal item.

06:59SPEAKERTypically it's one personal item

07:01SPEAKERand one actual bag that goes in the overhead.

07:04SPEAKERYou can no longer, you have to check that bag.

07:05SPEAKERYou can no longer bring anything

07:07SPEAKERbut something that goes under the seat.

07:08SPEAKERSo I did not fly United, but-

07:10SPEAKER- They're like three weeks away

07:12SPEAKERfrom adding surge pricing to the ticket prices.

07:15SPEAKER- They do that already.

07:16SPEAKERThey absolutely, like fares absolutely fluctuate

07:19SPEAKERbased on day of the week and IP address

07:20SPEAKERand all kinds of stuff.

07:21SPEAKERBut here's, okay, so here's the point I was gonna make.

07:23SPEAKERSo I've booked those super cheap fares

07:25SPEAKERbut all these times where I couldn't pick seats,

07:27SPEAKERin every case I got a window or an aisle.

07:30SPEAKERWhen they assigned to me the seat,

07:32SPEAKERthey have never assigned to be a middle seat yet

07:34SPEAKERon these fares where I can't pick my own seat.

07:36SPEAKER- I don't think we've ever flown anyplace together

07:38SPEAKERbut are you a window guy or are you an aisle guy?

07:40SPEAKER- Typically aisle, I love looking out the window

07:42SPEAKERon a plane, but the social, what's the word

07:47SPEAKERI'm looking for here?

07:48SPEAKER- The contract, like the, hey, you gotta bother two people

07:51SPEAKERto get up and go to the bathroom.

07:52SPEAKER- Yeah, it's more of the social convenience, I guess,

07:54SPEAKERof not having to ask people.

07:55SPEAKERAlthough, I mean, like, has there ever in airline history

07:58SPEAKERbeen a case of somebody refusing to get up

07:59SPEAKERto let somebody in the middle go to the bathroom?

08:01SPEAKER- Look, they're creating a problem for themselves.

08:03SPEAKER- Maybe, yes, I guess you're right about that.

08:05SPEAKERAnyway, like, but still, I like the liberty

08:08SPEAKERto just get up whenever I feel like it

08:09SPEAKERand not have to bother the person next to me.

08:11SPEAKERSo aisle, typically.

08:13SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm typically an aisle.

08:14SPEAKERI feel like I'll take a window in a pinch.

08:16SPEAKER- Yeah, although with the broad shoulders,

08:18SPEAKERyou do get the shoulder check as people pass you frequently.

08:22SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, you're just constantly getting whacked.

08:24SPEAKERI feel like if I'm doing a long flight

08:27SPEAKERwhere I might have a chance, like I'm too tall

08:28SPEAKERto sleep in the airplane seats usually

08:30SPEAKERthat just doesn't work right with my shoulders

08:33SPEAKERand it's not good for me.

08:35SPEAKER- Yeah.

08:36SPEAKER- I'll often on a late night flight, I'll do a window

08:38SPEAKER'cause then I can take a blanket and roll it up

08:41SPEAKERand jam it against the wall and just smash my face

08:43SPEAKERover there and maybe get a little bit of a snooze.

08:45SPEAKERBut I don't like an early, like the thing I like to do

08:49SPEAKERis if I'm doing a flight that there's gonna be

08:51SPEAKERany kind of jet lag situation at all,

08:53SPEAKERI like to time it so that when I get to where I'm going,

08:56SPEAKERit's about time for me to go to sleep.

08:59SPEAKERSo then I just stay up, I maybe eat a meal.

09:01SPEAKERLike I used to fly to New York and I'd always try

09:03SPEAKERto get there around 11 o'clock.

09:05SPEAKERI'd ride the train into the city, dump my bag off someplace,

09:08SPEAKERgo find some all night food, grab some dope food,

09:11SPEAKERwalk around the city for a little while

09:13SPEAKERand then go to the air, go back to the hotel

09:15SPEAKERand lay down and go to sleep.

09:16SPEAKERAnd then I'd wake up and be normal the next day.

09:17SPEAKERSleep like eight or 10 hours, it'd be fine.

09:19SPEAKER- Sure.

09:20SPEAKERYeah, for business trips, that's fine.

09:21SPEAKERI should say for people who may be yelling at the radio

09:25SPEAKERabout X, Y, and Z factor in my booking,

09:29SPEAKERwhere I'm going a direct flight is absolutely not an option

09:32SPEAKERand probably never will be.

09:33SPEAKERAnd so the, I think the absolute shortest,

09:36SPEAKERdoor-to-door, like leaving my house here

09:38SPEAKERto getting to walking into the destination

09:41SPEAKERis like 10, 11 hours at an absolute minimum.

09:44SPEAKER- So let me ask you.

09:45SPEAKER- So basically that leads to a situation

09:47SPEAKERwhere if I don't leave as early in the morning,

09:49SPEAKERit starts to create an inconvenience

09:51SPEAKERfor the people on the other end.

09:52SPEAKER- Well, and you have--

09:53SPEAKER- I don't want people having to come get me

09:55SPEAKERat 11 o'clock at night is the point, so.

09:58SPEAKER- The flying into Tri-Cities, which is where

10:00SPEAKERthe Bristol, Kingsport, Johnson City,

10:02SPEAKERNortheast Tennessee Airport, which is a similar situation.

10:04SPEAKERIt's always connecting through Cincinnati

10:06SPEAKERor Atlanta or Charlotte or Dallas or Salt Lake.

10:11SPEAKERAnd then the flights would always,

10:13SPEAKERwe'd leave here at the crack of dawn

10:15SPEAKERand get in there at like 10 o'clock at night.

10:17SPEAKER- Yep, that's how it always goes.

10:18SPEAKER- It's a horrible long day.

10:20SPEAKERAnd yeah, I get that.

10:22SPEAKERI'd much rather arrive in the morning.

10:23SPEAKERWe did, when we used to go to Bristol for Christmas,

10:27SPEAKERwe would often do the red eye to Atlanta

10:30SPEAKERand then the short, like you'd basically arrive in Atlanta,

10:35SPEAKERget on the 6 a.m. flight to Tri-Cities

10:37SPEAKERand you'd be there at like eight o'clock in the morning,

10:40SPEAKERwhich was fantastic, except for I can't sleep

10:42SPEAKERon the airplane, so I would always come up.

10:44SPEAKERAnd anyway, it's bad.

10:45SPEAKERFlying's bad!

10:46SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, sure.

10:48SPEAKERI loved red eyes in my 20s when it didn't matter

10:50SPEAKERif I stayed up all night, but not really an option anymore.

10:53SPEAKERAnyway, we should start this podcast,

10:55SPEAKERbut did you know that free Wi-Fi

10:57SPEAKERis also just kind of becoming a thing now?

10:59SPEAKER- Yeah.

11:00SPEAKER- Like American and United have both just given me

11:02SPEAKERfree Wi-Fi in the last little bit.

11:03SPEAKERLike I have always been one of those like staunchly

11:07SPEAKERanti-paying-for-internet-on-a-flight people,

11:09SPEAKER'cause I've got books and the Switch, you know,

11:11SPEAKERand I like, you know, it seems like a good time to unplug.

11:15SPEAKER- See, I love-- - And enjoy a novel

11:17SPEAKERor something, but--

11:18SPEAKER- Look, I love getting work done,

11:20SPEAKERbut I love farting around on the internet even more.

11:22SPEAKERI will always pay for Wi-Fi every time.

11:24SPEAKER- Man, that's, okay, that's life choices.

11:26SPEAKERAnyway, I tried it yesterday.

11:28SPEAKERI got my MacBook out.

11:29SPEAKERI tried to SSH into a server in my house.

11:34SPEAKERI had over a second of latency.

11:36SPEAKER- Yeah, you're going to space and back.

11:38SPEAKER- It turned out to not be worth it.

11:40SPEAKERMan, I was sending my keystrokes into space.

11:43SPEAKER(upbeat music)

11:59SPEAKER(upbeat music continues)

12:11SPEAKER- Welcome to "Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod."

12:13SPEAKERI'm Will. - I'm Brad.

12:15SPEAKER- That was the longest cold open we've ever done.

12:17SPEAKER- Look, people have opinions about air travel.

12:19SPEAKER- Look, yeah, it's, it's--

12:21SPEAKER- It's one of the, it's one of the few universal experience.

12:23SPEAKERWell, I guess some people maybe

12:25SPEAKERalmost never get on an airplane,

12:26SPEAKERbut, you know, most people these days have got

12:29SPEAKERstrong feelings about it.

12:30SPEAKER- It's funny, before the pandemic, I flew so much,

12:33SPEAKERand now I hardly ever go, like,

12:34SPEAKERit's like two flights a year, maybe on a big year.

12:37SPEAKER- It's all just family related for me

12:39SPEAKERat this point, basically.

12:41SPEAKER- I miss business travel.

12:42SPEAKERBusiness travel on somebody else's,

12:43SPEAKERwhen somebody was paying me to be someplace,

12:45SPEAKERoh, good times. - Sure.

12:47SPEAKERYeah, I mean, dude, I spent most of my twenties

12:50SPEAKERon airplanes for, especially for GameSpot,

12:53SPEAKERlike a little less for "Giant Bomb,"

12:54SPEAKERbut there was still a fair amount of travel for that.

12:56SPEAKER- Well, you guys traveled a bunch for "Giant Bomb."

12:58SPEAKER- I mean, I was like, I was like full on United,

13:00SPEAKERwhatever, Gold Elite, Platinum Status, whatever,

13:03SPEAKERlike could go in the lounge and everything,

13:04SPEAKER'cause we were just, you know,

13:05SPEAKERI was like racking up flights to Japan and Europe

13:08SPEAKERand all over the country, but it was business travel,

13:11SPEAKERso it was mostly get there,

13:13SPEAKERsitting in a conference hall or hotel suite,

13:16SPEAKERand then go right in a hotel room and then leave.

13:20SPEAKERBut anyway, you know-- - Yeah, crappy laptops,

13:22SPEAKERbad meals, lots of Cobb salads, and room service Cobb salads.

13:26SPEAKER- EVDO cards in the laptops.

13:28SPEAKER- Man, I remember doing a live blog

13:30SPEAKERof like the QuakeCon keynote with two different EVDO,

13:33SPEAKERone USB and one PCMCIA, so I had double internet

13:36SPEAKERjust in case one went down.

13:37SPEAKER- Man, we didn't have fallback.

13:39SPEAKERThat's, live blogging, like in the early, early days

13:42SPEAKERof cell internet, live blogging

13:45SPEAKERwas actually kind of exciting.

13:46SPEAKER- It was so fun.

13:47SPEAKERLike, I had to ice my wrists after the car mat,

13:50SPEAKERthree hours of car mat talking as fast as he could.

13:52SPEAKER- Yeah, that would not be fun.

13:55SPEAKER- Yeah, that and I would use press passes

13:59SPEAKERand shoot photos for Gizmodo sometimes

14:01SPEAKERwhen they first started doing photos in their live blog.

14:04SPEAKERAnyway, it's end of the month, it's question time.

14:07SPEAKERWe have a bunch of Qs, we're gonna turn them into As.

14:09SPEAKER- Just barely the end of the month, I think like this,

14:12SPEAKERtypically we do last Sunday,

14:14SPEAKERthe month is the question episode,

14:15SPEAKERand this next week, next week, Sunday is November 1st,

14:20SPEAKERso it was very much on the razor's edge of like,

14:24SPEAKERshould we hold it for one more week?

14:25SPEAKERBut then this also seemed to be like maybe the worst week

14:31SPEAKERin cybersecurity in history, so we thought about doing that,

14:35SPEAKERbut then I think we're gonna hold a week on that

14:37SPEAKERfor some postmortems to drop,

14:38SPEAKER'cause neither of us is a working infosec professional.

14:42SPEAKER- We should see if Elena wants to come on.

14:44SPEAKERShe covers that beat for PC World and would be a good,

14:46SPEAKERwould be a good guess for that.

14:47SPEAKER- Yeah, but you know, the short version is,

14:49SPEAKERI think we could probably do with a little more

14:52SPEAKERlike thorough documentation of everything that happened

14:54SPEAKERbefore we tried to discuss it with any intelligence.

14:57SPEAKER- Well, and there was more stuff that happened that kind of,

14:59SPEAKERlike there were so many things that dropped on that day

15:00SPEAKERthat like, some people I think used the,

15:04SPEAKER"Hey, everybody's having the worst IT day of their lives"

15:07SPEAKERto drop some other less severe,

15:10SPEAKERbut less public vulnerabilities, so yeah.

15:13SPEAKERNode.js had like two or three really bad ones

15:15SPEAKERthat kind of got glossed over

15:18SPEAKERbecause of the two really big ones.

15:20SPEAKER- And then like Railway had some public key leaks

15:22SPEAKERand there's some other stuff.

15:23SPEAKER- The Railway one was downstream of the PHP thing.

15:26SPEAKER- Oh, okay.

15:27SPEAKER- They got breached, but a whole lot of people, I think,

15:29SPEAKERmaybe got breached because of the PHP thing.

15:31SPEAKERAnyway, we will probably reconvene

15:33SPEAKERabout that topic next week.

15:35SPEAKER- Yeah, I had multiple conversations.

15:36SPEAKERI was playing PUBG with a friend the other night.

15:38SPEAKERWe were talking about it and he was like,

15:40SPEAKER"How's the back half of your week been?"

15:42SPEAKERHe's like, "Well, we did the mitigations

15:44SPEAKER"and got those out really fast

15:45SPEAKER"and then we had to patch a thousand servers

15:47SPEAKER"and that was less good."

15:49SPEAKERAnd I was like, "Yep, there we go."

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16:29SPEAKER- True.

16:31SPEAKER- You got a question queued up, Brad?

16:33SPEAKER- Yes, I was debating whether we should save this one

16:35SPEAKERfor last 'cause I think people will have strong opinions

16:38SPEAKERbut I'm just going to start with this banger.

16:40SPEAKER- Okay.

16:41SPEAKER- From Nate in Fort Collins.

16:43SPEAKER- Look, there were three that I had in my head

16:45SPEAKERthat you could have been the banger

16:46SPEAKERyou're saving for the last or starting with.

16:48SPEAKERSo I'm glad you picked Nate's.

16:49SPEAKER- Okay, I have never played a Metal Gear game.

16:52SPEAKERI have never had Taco Bell.

16:54SPEAKERI have never tried sushi.

16:56SPEAKERIf I could only choose one of these to do for the first time

16:58SPEAKERnot considering cost or time investment, which should I do?

17:02SPEAKER- Okay, I don't know that I have a great answer

17:05SPEAKERon Metal Gear 'cause the only Metal Gear game

17:07SPEAKERI think I ever finished was that Ground Zeroes thing

17:08SPEAKERthat they released.

17:09SPEAKER- Okay, that's not a bad one.

17:11SPEAKERI have finished most, I've played all of them

17:13SPEAKERand finished almost all of them.

17:14SPEAKER- I finished the NES one, which was incredibly difficult.

17:18SPEAKER- Wow, wow.

17:19SPEAKER- I was like 10 years old, so I had time.

17:21SPEAKER- Not noted as one of the better Metal Gear games

17:23SPEAKERbut it's fair.

17:24SPEAKER- It was, it got a big spread in Nintendo Power

17:27SPEAKERtherefore I played it, you know.

17:29SPEAKER- Definitely, there is one clear answer here to me.

17:32SPEAKER- Sushi, man.

17:33SPEAKER- Yes, a hundred percent.

17:34SPEAKER- Yeah.

17:35SPEAKER- A hundred percent, that is a whole culinary world

17:37SPEAKERthat you have yet to experience.

17:39SPEAKER- Dude, I would get on a, if you were like,

17:41SPEAKERhey, Will, you wanna go to Japan with me for a week

17:43SPEAKERand just eat sushi all week, I would, like,

17:46SPEAKERI'm always gonna say yes to that if I can.

17:47SPEAKER- Especially factor, well, okay,

17:49SPEAKERthis is probably not practical for Nate, I assume,

17:51SPEAKERbut factoring in the hypothetical,

17:52SPEAKERthe not considering cost or time investment part of this,

17:56SPEAKERlike if you could just go fly to Japan and like, yeah.

18:00SPEAKERBut even-

18:00SPEAKER- Yeah, the Mercury poisoning tour, let's go.

18:04SPEAKER- Well, also an ironic thing about Japan,

18:06SPEAKERagain, getting back to the business travel

18:07SPEAKER'cause I went for TGS so many times,

18:09SPEAKERlike the cheapest kaiten sushi,

18:11SPEAKERkaiten is like the conveyor belt, you know,

18:14SPEAKERyou don't even need to speak Japanese,

18:15SPEAKERyou can just walk in

18:16SPEAKERand start grabbing plates off the conveyor,

18:18SPEAKERand then they'll just come give you a bill at the end,

18:21SPEAKERlike even that cheap, like, conveyor belt sushi

18:24SPEAKERnear the hotel was like some of the best I'd ever had.

18:27SPEAKER- My sister-in-law just got back, I saw her this morning,

18:30SPEAKERand she was telling me about her sushi,

18:32SPEAKERshe was like, I ate sushi twice a day a couple of times,

18:36SPEAKERand the yen is so weak right now

18:38SPEAKERthat everything is incredibly inexpensive,

18:41SPEAKERand she was like, yeah, I've eaten better here

18:43SPEAKERthan I've ever eaten on a trip before.

18:45SPEAKER- Well, you know, depending on where you live,

18:46SPEAKERlike plenty of good sushi in,

18:48SPEAKERI mean, I can't speak for Fort Collins,

18:50SPEAKERbut America also has a lot of good sushi

18:52SPEAKERif you can find it, so.

18:53SPEAKER- So what's your go-to?

18:54SPEAKERIf you're starting somebody out on sushi,

18:56SPEAKERdo you start 'em with like-

18:57SPEAKER- Oh, jeez, I have no idea,

18:58SPEAKERthat would be probably entirely dependent on the person.

19:01SPEAKER- I mean, so, yeah, but there's some like,

19:04SPEAKERthere's some bangers that are relatively-

19:07SPEAKER- Well, Webster's dictionary defines sushi as,

19:09SPEAKERthey're like, technically,

19:10SPEAKERlike sushi is the kind of rice configuration,

19:12SPEAKERit's not actually raw fish.

19:14SPEAKERLike raw fish can be a component,

19:16SPEAKERbut there's a bajillion things that can be sushi.

19:19SPEAKER- Yeah, like my advice would be to get some basic rolls,

19:22SPEAKERget one thing that's weird,

19:23SPEAKERand get a couple pieces of nigiri,

19:25SPEAKERand the nigiri is like the fish on the top of the rice.

19:27SPEAKER- Yeah, that's my favorite, typically.

19:29SPEAKER- I love a nigiri, I love, my favorite,

19:31SPEAKERthe thing I get is a chashudan with the,

19:34SPEAKERsorry, not a chashudana,

19:37SPEAKERthe sashimi bowl with the sushi rice,

19:40SPEAKERand the wasabi and stuff,

19:42SPEAKERand just, I just eat the,

19:44SPEAKERI grab those most 'cause I love a sashimi.

19:46SPEAKER- Sure, I like hand rolls are good.

19:48SPEAKER- Hand rolls are great.

19:50SPEAKERLike if you want something,

19:50SPEAKERif you wanna start with something

19:51SPEAKERthat's a little less intense,

19:53SPEAKERand like a piece of raw fish,

19:54SPEAKERyou can, you know, no shame in ordering a California roll,

19:58SPEAKERor a spicy tuna roll.

19:59SPEAKER- Yeah, sure, yeah, like yes,

20:01SPEAKERthe rolls, and you know, maybe if you're really skittish,

20:04SPEAKERlike rolls with entirely cooked or non-animal components,

20:07SPEAKERmaybe are a place to start,

20:08SPEAKERand kind of branch out from there, but.

20:10SPEAKER- Asparagus tempera is always good.

20:13SPEAKER- I really like the staple fishes though,

20:15SPEAKERand once you're getting into raw fish,

20:16SPEAKERlike frankly, frankly,

20:18SPEAKERjust like tuna, and salmon, and mackerel,

20:20SPEAKERand like some of them, you know,

20:21SPEAKERbut I have, I don't think I've really ever met a raw fish

20:25SPEAKERI didn't like, frankly, fatty tuna is the god.

20:29SPEAKER- Fatty tuna is really good.

20:29SPEAKERI don't get fatty tuna anymore,

20:30SPEAKER'cause it's a little iffy on a sustainability front,

20:34SPEAKERbut like, if I was in Japan,

20:36SPEAKERI would eat fatty tuna and not hesitate.

20:39SPEAKERI love a mackerel and a red snapper.

20:41SPEAKERThose are my favorites of the non-standards,

20:44SPEAKERand you can't go wrong with salmon and tuna.

20:45SPEAKER- I'm calling an end to this question,

20:47SPEAKER'cause I haven't eaten lunch, and I'm very hungry now.

20:49SPEAKER- Oh yeah, okay, well sorry about that.

20:51SPEAKERYou brought it up.

20:52SPEAKERThanks, Nate, enjoy, enjoy.

20:54SPEAKER- I think my only knock against sushi

20:56SPEAKERis it's not really realistic to enjoy it in the home.

20:59SPEAKERI mean, you can make it yourself, of course,

21:01SPEAKERbut what I mean is like really good,

21:02SPEAKERprofessionally prepared sushi.

21:04SPEAKERSo even by the time you get it home,

21:07SPEAKERlike if you really hustle,

21:08SPEAKERlike if you can pick it up somewhere

21:09SPEAKERand get it home in like five minutes, you're fine.

21:11SPEAKER- There's a place that's like 10 minutes away from us

21:13SPEAKERthat we're able to take out from sometimes,

21:16SPEAKERand it's like in the realm, it's safe.

21:19SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't even mean like safe or not safe.

21:21SPEAKERI'm not even talking food safety, just freshness.

21:24SPEAKERLike you can just, you can start to tell a difference

21:26SPEAKERif it sits for more than like 20, 30 minutes.

21:29SPEAKER- Yeah, don't go to the, the thing I would say

21:31SPEAKERis don't go to the grocery store

21:32SPEAKERand get stuff in the rack there.

21:34SPEAKER- I've eaten a lot of Safeway sushi, actually.

21:38SPEAKER- I mean, I have too, but if you're trying it

21:39SPEAKERfor the first time, that's like a hey.

21:42SPEAKERLike the thing I would do, honestly,

21:44SPEAKERis find a place that people in your town like

21:46SPEAKERand go sit down at the sushi bar

21:48SPEAKERand tell the chef that you've never had sushi before

21:51SPEAKERand like let them just choose some stuff for you

21:53SPEAKERand go nuts.

21:54SPEAKER- Yes, actually, that is really good advice.

21:56SPEAKERJust find, yes, that's kind of the best thing

21:58SPEAKERabout the bar part of the sushi place

22:00SPEAKERis that you can interact with the chef.

22:02SPEAKER- Yeah, it's like a guided food tour

22:06SPEAKERof things that you're gonna find delicious or weird,

22:09SPEAKERand some of it you like and some of it you want,

22:10SPEAKERand that's fine.

22:11SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, okay.

22:13SPEAKERWe have to move on.

22:14SPEAKER- I want sushi now, Brad, this is your fault.

22:16SPEAKER- Extreme same.

22:19SPEAKERJason from Texas.

22:20SPEAKERA few months ago, I replaced my Ring doorbell

22:23SPEAKERand security cameras due to the revelation

22:25SPEAKERof Ring sharing video with third parties.

22:27SPEAKERIt was probably there in the fine print,

22:29SPEAKERbut who reads that?

22:30SPEAKERI replaced my Ring ecosystem with a self-hosted option.

22:34SPEAKERWhat can I do with my unused Ring devices?

22:36SPEAKERIn a normal situation, I would give them away or sell them,

22:39SPEAKERbut if I do that,

22:39SPEAKERI might as well just keep using them myself.

22:41SPEAKERShould I destroy them and recycle the parts

22:43SPEAKERor keep them and hope that someone finds a way

22:45SPEAKERto use them in a self-hosted environment?

22:48SPEAKERAm I overthinking this?

22:49SPEAKER- So I looked a little bit to see if there's projects

22:51SPEAKERthat take these over, 'cause like people have resurrected

22:55SPEAKERnow unsupported Nest thermostats and stuff like that.

22:58SPEAKER- Yeah, by and large, that would be the go-to answer here

23:01SPEAKERis like, oh, I'm sure somebody's jailbroken it

23:03SPEAKERand kind of gotten it doing things it wasn't supposed to do,

23:05SPEAKERbut you tell me, probably you're making a face,

23:07SPEAKERso maybe not.

23:08SPEAKER- So there's not a ton.

23:10SPEAKERLike while their backend security with your video

23:13SPEAKERis kind of crappy, their firmware level security

23:15SPEAKERseems pretty good 'cause I didn't see a bunch

23:17SPEAKERof aftermarket firmwares for them.

23:18SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, jailbreaking is pretty hard

23:21SPEAKERin this day and age, it seems, unless like specific types

23:25SPEAKERof vulnerabilities present themselves.

23:27SPEAKER- Unless, yeah, unless somebody specifically does something

23:29SPEAKERto make them accessible.

23:31SPEAKER- Yeah, like in the age of certificates

23:34SPEAKERand signed firmware and that kind of thing,

23:36SPEAKERlike it's not super easy to do.

23:39SPEAKER- The thing I wasn't able to find is if the parts

23:41SPEAKERare standard enough that it's worth like getting

23:44SPEAKERthe reflow station out and de-soldering the cameras

23:46SPEAKERand all the chips and stuff.

23:48SPEAKERI kind of feel like I would just take it to electronics

23:51SPEAKERrecycling and send it on its way and not worry about it

23:54SPEAKERtoo much and, you know.

23:56SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I can tell you what my strategy

23:59SPEAKERwould be to put it in a drawer and hope that someday

24:01SPEAKERsomebody jailbreaks it and does something cool with it,

24:03SPEAKERbut that's entirely down to your tolerance

24:06SPEAKERfor holding onto stuff that's not doing anything.

24:09SPEAKER- Also, my new policy on putting things in drawers

24:12SPEAKERis that things with batteries don't go in drawers.

24:14SPEAKER- That's probably a good policy.

24:16SPEAKER- Those ring doorbells all have batteries.

24:19SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

24:21SPEAKERSo this is just going to be more and more of a question

24:24SPEAKERabout more and more device categories over time.

24:26SPEAKER- It is, it is 100%, that is 100% true.

24:30SPEAKER- Okay, Michael writes in, this is kind of more

24:32SPEAKERof a trip report than a life report rather than a question.

24:37SPEAKERIt's about the drone delivery.

24:39SPEAKER- Oh, the potatoes from the air.

24:40SPEAKER- Yeah, the potatoes from the sky business

24:42SPEAKERthat we talked about.

24:43SPEAKER- Nathan's potatoes.

24:44SPEAKER- Two, three weeks ago, I live in Denton, Texas,

24:47SPEAKERwhich happens to be a place

24:48SPEAKERwith those nightmare delivery drones.

24:50SPEAKERThey are limited to two and a half or three pounds.

24:53SPEAKERThere's a big drone that gets where it's going

24:55SPEAKERand then there's a smaller drone inside of it

24:57SPEAKERthat seems to lower down,

24:58SPEAKERwhich is what employees at Walmart fill

25:00SPEAKERand that's what sets the package down on the ground.

25:04SPEAKERThey are fairly loud and hard to tune out.

25:07SPEAKERAs someone who lives a mile and a half from them,

25:09SPEAKERI think he means like from the kind of distribution point.

25:13SPEAKER- The drone center? - Yes, the drone hive.

25:16SPEAKER- Like this is giving me strong like,

25:18SPEAKERhey, I just unlocked the RTS unit

25:20SPEAKERthat flies the drones around vibes.

25:22SPEAKER- Oh, the Walmart drone hive.

25:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

25:25SPEAKER- Someone who lives in a mile and a half from there,

25:27SPEAKERthey go over my yard frequently, they feel very invasive

25:30SPEAKERand quite frankly have kind of stolen the fun

25:32SPEAKERout of doing yard projects.

25:34SPEAKERI know I sound like that old curmudgeon shouting,

25:36SPEAKER"Not on my lawn," but they sincerely make me uncomfortable.

25:40SPEAKERA lot of people in my neighborhood order them

25:41SPEAKERfor the novelty and they're fast enough

25:44SPEAKERto get you a last minute item within an hour

25:46SPEAKERof when you need it,

25:46SPEAKERso it's easy for like condiments and stuff.

25:50SPEAKERWalmart employees said that they're a nightmare to work with

25:52SPEAKERand just add more labor to their job.

25:54SPEAKERI'll send a second email with photos

25:56SPEAKERand maybe a video of one taking off

25:58SPEAKERbecause they're constantly taking off

26:00SPEAKERfrom the big nightmare cube that they live in,

26:03SPEAKERwhich is fenced in better than our local county jail.

26:06SPEAKERThey are extremely interesting at first

26:08SPEAKERand then they become an absolute nightmare

26:10SPEAKERand they are loud as shit.

26:12SPEAKER- Yeah, I wonder if we're gonna get one of these emails

26:14SPEAKERbecause that was like,

26:16SPEAKERI looked at the number of propellers on those things

26:18SPEAKERand it's like 12, I think, total.

26:20SPEAKER- Yikes.

26:22SPEAKER- Yeah, I can wait an extra three hours to get my potatoes

26:27SPEAKERfrom the TaskRabbit person or whatever.

26:29SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

26:30SPEAKERThis is a real quick one that I think I know the answer to

26:32SPEAKERunless it's something I'm not thinking of,

26:34SPEAKERbut Tim asks, "What was the OBS thing you were talking about

26:37SPEAKER"for different video backgrounds for Zooms and Teams calls?"

26:40SPEAKER- Oh, so I was talking about using virtual camera,

26:42SPEAKERwhich is an OBS feature that lets you take a scene

26:45SPEAKERor a source in OBS and turn it into a camera input

26:49SPEAKERthat any other device on your OS can do.

26:51SPEAKERSo it's basically a pointer for video.

26:53SPEAKER- Yeah, basically it'll show up as a new video output device

26:56SPEAKERand if you go into Zoom or Teams

26:58SPEAKERand it asks you what camera do you wanna use,

26:59SPEAKERyou'll see something like OBS virtual camera

27:01SPEAKERand you pick that instead.

27:03SPEAKER- Yeah, the neat thing is because an OBS scene will work,

27:06SPEAKERyou can do things like have filters on

27:08SPEAKERthat do background removal or,

27:10SPEAKERso you can do either a green screen

27:12SPEAKERif you have a green screen

27:13SPEAKERor you can just use the NVIDIA broadcast

27:15SPEAKERbackground removal tool if you have an NVIDIA card

27:18SPEAKERand clip out the background

27:19SPEAKERand put whatever you want in there instead.

27:21SPEAKER- Yeah, it's our issue.

27:23SPEAKERIf you've ever seen the clip of a second Dan Reichert

27:26SPEAKERwalking around in the background of Dan Reichert

27:28SPEAKERtalking into a camera.

27:30SPEAKER- It's very good.

27:31SPEAKER- It's probably how he accomplished that.

27:33SPEAKER- I've used it before when I was doing like,

27:37SPEAKERif I wanna have the same background I always have

27:41SPEAKERbut I'm not in the room where I always am

27:42SPEAKERthen I'll just clip out the background

27:44SPEAKERand then drop the, I'll record blank video

27:46SPEAKERof the normal background and just put that behind me.

27:49SPEAKERWorks great.

27:50SPEAKER- I've talked before about wanting to,

27:51SPEAKERthinking about green screening the poster frames behind me

27:54SPEAKERso I could just put, rotate and do posters in and out.

27:58SPEAKERThat's how I would do that as well.

28:00SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't--

28:01SPEAKER- If I were to ever do that.

28:03SPEAKER- Yeah, there's a bunch of weird fun stuff you can do.

28:06SPEAKEROnce you start poking around with the things

28:08SPEAKERyou can do inside an OBS scene,

28:10SPEAKER'cause you can have multiple layers, you can put text,

28:12SPEAKERyou can put other images on top, you can superimpose stuff.

28:16SPEAKERMy friend Gordon Young used to do,

28:18SPEAKERhe would wear different t-shirts that matched like Star Wars

28:22SPEAKERor Star Trek or whatever and then his background would be

28:25SPEAKERhim sitting in the, it would make him look like

28:27SPEAKERhe's sitting in the NC, you know,

28:29SPEAKERthe Enterprise's bridge or whatever, 1701.

28:32SPEAKER- First time I did the full nerd with him

28:33SPEAKERand he was just sitting in the cockpit of an X-wing.

28:35SPEAKERI was very confused.

28:37SPEAKERI did not know that was just an all the time thing for him.

28:39SPEAKER- Yeah, he had the seat in the Lebowski bowling alley

28:44SPEAKERis one of them, it's all of his favorite stuff, it was good.

28:47SPEAKER- Gordon was quite a character.

28:48SPEAKER- Gordon, definitely a character.

28:50SPEAKERHe would have fit in well on USA.

28:53SPEAKER- Okay, Andrew in Chicago.

28:56SPEAKER"As a tech enthusiast of a certain age,

28:58SPEAKERI find myself managing my household's collected electronics

29:01SPEAKERsuch as multiple desktops, a laptop, a home lab

29:04SPEAKERand some game consoles.

29:06SPEAKERConsidering the wildly increased price and difficulty

29:09SPEAKERin replacing or even repairing any of these devices

29:12SPEAKERshould they go down.

29:13SPEAKERIs there anything I can be proactively doing

29:15SPEAKERto increase their lifespan?

29:17SPEAKERBuy new coolers for everything?

29:19SPEAKERUnderclock the various components via the BIOS?

29:22SPEAKERInstitute a strict weekly dusting regimen?

29:24SPEAKERGiven the production realities of the world at large,

29:27SPEAKERI'd gladly trade in 10 or 15% of reduction in performance

29:32SPEAKERfor an extra few years of life."

29:35SPEAKER- It's funny, I am much better about turning things off

29:39SPEAKERthan I was a few years ago.

29:40SPEAKER- Interesting, okay, sure.

29:42SPEAKER- I think if you have a bunch of fans,

29:43SPEAKERlike making sure there's no dust in your radiators

29:47SPEAKERand stuff is really important now.

29:48SPEAKER- Keeping dust cleaned out and airflow good,

29:50SPEAKERlike underclocking or undervolting

29:52SPEAKERare not actually bad ideas for,

29:54SPEAKERI mean, you're really not losing a lot of performance

29:56SPEAKERthe way things work these days

29:58SPEAKERto shave that top end off the power consumption

30:00SPEAKERand that probably wouldn't hurt.

30:02SPEAKER- And definitely doing things like not overclocking.

30:05SPEAKERI mean, I still overclock my RAM,

30:06SPEAKERwhich feels like it's living on the edge, but-

30:08SPEAKER- Well, when you say overclock,

30:10SPEAKERare you talking about like whatever the XMP or the like-

30:12SPEAKER- I'm running the XMP profile, which is an overclock.

30:14SPEAKERIt's not Gen Ed. - Oh yeah,

30:15SPEAKERand I know it is technically an overclock.

30:17SPEAKERI've always just felt like if they put the speed on the box,

30:20SPEAKERit should be considered rated to run at that speed, but-

30:23SPEAKER- Yeah, but- - I don't know.

30:25SPEAKER- Will they actually send me new sticks if these burn out?

30:27SPEAKERI don't know.

30:28SPEAKER- Yeah, at this point, almost certainly not.

30:30SPEAKERLike there's stories everywhere about companies

30:32SPEAKERrefusing to honor warranties and basically like,

30:34SPEAKERthere's all those stories of they'll just,

30:36SPEAKERthey'll give you the purchase price,

30:37SPEAKERwhat you paid originally for the thing

30:39SPEAKERrather than fixing it for you.

30:41SPEAKER- Absolute bunk.

30:42SPEAKER- Even though that's like a fifth

30:45SPEAKERof the current price or whatever.

30:47SPEAKER- Yeah, I think turning your power off

30:49SPEAKERwhen you're not using stuff is actually the big one.

30:52SPEAKER- Yeah, this is one specific case, but hard drives.

30:56SPEAKERYou know, I've talked on here recently

30:58SPEAKERthat one of the drives in my NAS is starting to go.

31:01SPEAKERI don't know how like scientific this is,

31:03SPEAKERbut I was reading a discussion on a forum

31:05SPEAKERabout hard drive longevity.

31:07SPEAKERAnd the people there seem to talk about lifespans

31:10SPEAKERin terms of like power on hours, like spending hours.

31:14SPEAKERAnd I leave this thing on 24/7,

31:17SPEAKERwhich really made me think like,

31:18SPEAKERoh man, I'm gonna get so many fewer real world years

31:22SPEAKERout of these drives because I've left them on all the time

31:24SPEAKERinstead of like only using them eight hours a day

31:26SPEAKERor whatever.

31:27SPEAKER- Yeah, it's interesting though.

31:28SPEAKER'Cause like I often use my Plex server

31:30SPEAKERin the wee hours of the morning and that's, you know, like.

31:33SPEAKER- Well, it's two things.

31:34SPEAKERIt's that, yes, it's availability.

31:35SPEAKERIt's just wanting to be able to like listen to music

31:37SPEAKERor stream video or whatever, like whenever I want.

31:40SPEAKER- Yeah.

31:41SPEAKER- The other one was that I had always heard

31:43SPEAKERit was worse for the drives

31:44SPEAKERto spin them up and down all the time mechanically,

31:46SPEAKERlike that you were inviting mechanical failure faster

31:48SPEAKERbecause of that rather than just leaving them running.

31:50SPEAKERBut I don't know who's right.

31:52SPEAKER- Well, specifically the thing that happens

31:53SPEAKERin that case that you wanna avoid is that

31:56SPEAKERwhen the drives run for a long time

31:58SPEAKERand they've been on for a long time,

31:59SPEAKERyou don't probably wanna turn them off

32:01SPEAKERbecause the lubricants can change viscosity

32:04SPEAKERand stuff like that.

32:05SPEAKERAnd then I don't know that it happens in modern drives.

32:08SPEAKERThe thing that used to happen in old drives

32:09SPEAKERis that when the kind of formulation of the lubricant changed

32:15SPEAKERdue to the extended use, when it cooled down

32:18SPEAKERand the drive stopped spinning, it would be more viscous.

32:20SPEAKERAnd then the motors wouldn't have enough juice

32:22SPEAKERto break that viscosity of the broken down lubricant.

32:27SPEAKERSo the thing that you did to fix that

32:29SPEAKERwas actually hit the side of the drive with a screwdriver.

32:31SPEAKER- Oh yeah.

32:32SPEAKER- It was like, I don't know that it happens

32:34SPEAKERwith modern drives.

32:35SPEAKERI feel like we're in a different lubricant situation

32:37SPEAKERthan we were in the '90s now.

32:38SPEAKER- Probably, probably.

32:39SPEAKER- I would just say that one thing I do do often

32:42SPEAKERis on games that I'm not using

32:43SPEAKERthat I don't actually wanna run

32:44SPEAKERat the full refresh rate of my monitor,

32:46SPEAKERI'll lock the frame rate cap to like 120 hertz or 90 hertz.

32:52SPEAKERSo if I'm playing something that I don't need the GPU

32:54SPEAKERrunning a full bore, absolutely will throttle the frame rate

32:57SPEAKERand that'll reduce the power consumption dramatically.

32:59SPEAKER- Yeah, I actually cap the frame rate

33:00SPEAKERin the Nvidia drivers now, just globally I limit it.

33:03SPEAKERIn fact, did we ever talk about this?

33:05SPEAKERI found an article that somebody had written

33:07SPEAKERthat was a very good case

33:08SPEAKERfor why you should always limit your frame rate

33:10SPEAKERto like say four hertz or maybe did you send this to me?

33:14SPEAKER- Yeah, you wanna be one to four hertz

33:17SPEAKERunder your monitor's refresh rate basically.

33:19SPEAKER- It's for frame pacing reasons

33:20SPEAKERthat keeps the frame pacing more consistent

33:23SPEAKERthan to try to output as fast as the monitor will go.

33:26SPEAKER- The BlurBusters folks did a really good deep dive

33:29SPEAKERinto how this stuff works with like G-Sync and FSR

33:32SPEAKERand all that kind of stuff.

33:34SPEAKERAnd the TLDR is you end up with much less monitor,

33:38SPEAKERit's much less micro stutter

33:40SPEAKERbetween the frame buffer and the monitor

33:42SPEAKERif you cap a few frames per second

33:44SPEAKERunder your monitor's maximum refresh rate.

33:46SPEAKERNot all games let you do that though.

33:48SPEAKER- Yeah, that's why I do it at the driver level

33:49SPEAKERand that's just global for everything.

33:51SPEAKERYeah, I've got a 144 hertz monitor that I cap at 140

33:55SPEAKERand it seems to work well.

33:56SPEAKERAnd it gets around that problem you mentioned

33:58SPEAKERof like games with uncapped frame rates in the menus

34:00SPEAKERor whatever, just like sending all of your fans to the moon.

34:03SPEAKER- Nothing like loading up a opening rendering video

34:06SPEAKERand see it hit 800 frames a second.

34:09SPEAKER- Quick question from Ben.

34:10SPEAKERThis is another just a quick follow-up fill in.

34:14SPEAKERI remember you mentioning that you had problems

34:15SPEAKERfinding a good USB fingerprint reader that works with Linux.

34:19SPEAKERI don't remember if you actually mentioned

34:20SPEAKERwhich one you ended up with.

34:21SPEAKERHaving just picked up a new machine that is missing one,

34:23SPEAKERI'm really missing it,

34:24SPEAKERespecially for unlocking my password manager.

34:27SPEAKERI don't suppose you could share which one you ended up with?

34:29SPEAKER- So the one that I found that worked well

34:31SPEAKERwas recommended by Ernie Smith on Blue Sky

34:34SPEAKERand it's a chip sailing CS9711 chip set.

34:38SPEAKER- Chip sailing?

34:39SPEAKER- Chip sailing is a company that makes fingerprint sensors.

34:41SPEAKER- Aha, okay.

34:43SPEAKER- The unfortunate thing is I bought it from Timu

34:46SPEAKERand that model's not actually available anymore.

34:48SPEAKERThe time-honored way to find them

34:50SPEAKERis to buy about five different models

34:52SPEAKERfrom Amazon or AliExpress or Timu

34:55SPEAKERand then just return the ones that don't work.

34:57SPEAKER- Yep, that is an option.

34:58SPEAKERI wonder if that's a case also

34:59SPEAKERwhere you could just try to find other models

35:01SPEAKERthat have that same chip on them.

35:03SPEAKER- That is one of the more common chips.

35:06SPEAKERThere's a pretty good driver for it

35:08SPEAKERthat's in the AUR and in other packages for other OSs.

35:14SPEAKER- Yeah, that's something you find

35:15SPEAKERif you spend a lot of time on Linux

35:17SPEAKERfor accessories, for plug-in accessories like that,

35:19SPEAKERlike Wi-Fi dongles or what you're talking about

35:21SPEAKERor Bluetooth or whatever, 90% of the time

35:24SPEAKERyou care more about what chip is inside them

35:26SPEAKERthan what brand is on the outside of them,

35:28SPEAKERlike oh, you wanna find this one specific real tech chip

35:32SPEAKERin your Wi-Fi adapter

35:33SPEAKER'cause that has better driver support.

35:35SPEAKER- The nice thing about that CS9711

35:37SPEAKERis it also works with Windows Hello

35:39SPEAKERand it saves stuff, fingerprints are saved on the host

35:43SPEAKERrather than on the device necessarily.

35:45SPEAKERThe hashes are saved on the device

35:46SPEAKERso you can actually use it with both OSs at the same time

35:50SPEAKERwithout having to do any screwy configuration stuff.

35:52SPEAKER- Wait, it shares the fingerprint between both?

35:55SPEAKER- On Linux side, no, you have to set it up individually

35:58SPEAKERin each OS, it just saves it on the host

35:59SPEAKERso you don't have, it's not like saved

36:01SPEAKERin the firmware of the device with a salted hash

36:04SPEAKERthat prevents it from being accessible to the other OS.

36:06SPEAKER- Is that touching the TPM, I assume?

36:09SPEAKER- I don't, on the Hello side, it probably is,

36:11SPEAKERbut it's probably saving the stuff in the TPM

36:14SPEAKERwould be my guess.

36:15SPEAKER- Windows Hello absolutely does use the TPM.

36:18SPEAKERI have a low grade suspicion that the TPM

36:21SPEAKERis very underutilized for most people's use cases

36:24SPEAKERor that there's a lot more we could be doing with it

36:26SPEAKERfor security stuff.

36:27SPEAKER- I think with the rise of pass keys,

36:30SPEAKERthat's probably less true now than it was

36:31SPEAKERa couple of years ago.

36:32SPEAKER- But there are probably ways to store pass keys in the TPM,

36:35SPEAKERthat's what I'm getting at, like there are,

36:36SPEAKERit's a pain to set up, but there are ways

36:38SPEAKERin both Windows and Linux, for example,

36:39SPEAKERto store your SSH keys in your TPM, that kind of thing,

36:42SPEAKERlike that's what I'm talking about is like--

36:43SPEAKER- There's limited space too, isn't there?

36:45SPEAKER- I think there's, I mean, an SSH key is like, what,

36:48SPEAKER64 bytes or something?

36:49SPEAKER- It's not big, yeah.

36:51SPEAKER- It's just a big text string.

36:53SPEAKERI think there's a lot of, like I've been messing around

36:55SPEAKERwith like the BitLocker encryption

36:58SPEAKERand the ways you can use the TPM for that,

37:00SPEAKERand anyway, we should--

37:02SPEAKER- We should do a TPM episode?

37:04SPEAKER- Yeah, look into that stuff.

37:05SPEAKERWell, if and when I ever put Linux on this desktop,

37:09SPEAKERsince I've done my huge--

37:10SPEAKER- It's time, man.

37:11SPEAKER- That kind of big relaying out of partitions and stuff,

37:15SPEAKERwe will touch on that stuff then, for sure.

37:17SPEAKER- It's time.

37:19SPEAKER- Okay, I'm gonna read, I think, this last email

37:22SPEAKERand segue that right into a similar Discord question

37:25SPEAKERthat is related.

37:26SPEAKER- Okay.

37:27SPEAKER- Eric from Norway.

37:29SPEAKERThis is a follow-up to, was it two weeks ago,

37:32SPEAKERwe talked about my site-to-site VPN

37:35SPEAKERthat I ended up setting up while I was,

37:36SPEAKERand it was for the reason that I wanted to get the Apple TV

37:39SPEAKERat that location connected to the Plex

37:42SPEAKERor the Jellyfin here,

37:44SPEAKERand didn't want to deal with WireGuard apps on the Apple TV.

37:48SPEAKEROkay, Eric from Norway writes in.

37:50SPEAKERJust wanted to chime in that Tailscale offers

37:52SPEAKERan app store app on the Apple TV.

37:54SPEAKERI've just used this for a little while,

37:55SPEAKERbut I'm amazed at the ease of use of Tailscale.

37:58SPEAKERMaybe you could find reasons why I should not use Tailscale

38:01SPEAKERfrom your point of view.

38:03SPEAKER- So this is to do a tunnel, like a proxy tunnel?

38:06SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

38:07SPEAKERSo, I mean, are you familiar with Tailscale?

38:08SPEAKERI've never used it. - I've never used Tailscale, no.

38:11SPEAKER- This is all stuff I've absorbed through Osmosis

38:13SPEAKERso people can correct me, but what I have gathered,

38:15SPEAKERit uses WireGuard as the underlying protocol.

38:18SPEAKERTailscale is basically, as far as I can tell,

38:20SPEAKERjust a bunch of admin automation on top of that

38:23SPEAKERto make it easier to connect a bunch of devices

38:26SPEAKERinto what I think they call a tailnet,

38:28SPEAKERwhich is basically, configuring WireGuard

38:31SPEAKERis a little bit of a pain.

38:32SPEAKERYou have to generate keys and then make the public

38:34SPEAKERand private keys match on either end of the connection.

38:36SPEAKERIt's not that hard once you know how it works,

38:39SPEAKERbut it does take a little bit of work.

38:41SPEAKERAnd I think Tailscale basically is automating that.

38:44SPEAKER- So it gives you an easy-to-manage password interface

38:47SPEAKERor something like that?

38:48SPEAKER- I think that's basically how it works.

38:49SPEAKERAnd they have a free tier and they also have

38:50SPEAKERa self-hosted option called Headscale

38:52SPEAKERif you don't wanna go through their servers.

38:55SPEAKER- I like that.

38:56SPEAKER- But I think you do have to set it up per machine.

38:59SPEAKERSo that's the gist, as I have gathered,

39:02SPEAKERnot having used it myself.

39:03SPEAKERBut the reason I don't use it is,

39:07SPEAKERI've talked about this before.

39:08SPEAKERI feel like I'm becoming a bit of a zealot about this,

39:11SPEAKERbut I am really just trying to reduce my dependence

39:14SPEAKERon corporate products that could pull the rug out

39:17SPEAKERfrom under me at some later time if they get acquired

39:19SPEAKERand start to inshitify or if they run out of money

39:22SPEAKERand shut down or make some other decision by fiat

39:26SPEAKERthat I don't like and that puts me in a worse position

39:29SPEAKERand then I'm dependent on them

39:30SPEAKERand then I have to find another option.

39:31SPEAKER- And it's hard to inshitify a protocol.

39:33SPEAKER- Well, yeah, that's exactly it.

39:34SPEAKERSo that is 100% it, is that WireGuard is like

39:38SPEAKERa minuscule amount of code.

39:40SPEAKERIt's baked into not every,

39:42SPEAKERI wish it was actually baked into every operating system.

39:44SPEAKERThere are no, there's no kernel level implementation

39:47SPEAKERfor Windows or Mac, but user space,

39:49SPEAKERyou know, you can still download,

39:50SPEAKERbut FreeBSD, Linux, like most of the big open source

39:55SPEAKERoperating systems, it's literally built into their kernels.

39:57SPEAKERLike it's just, it's everywhere and very simple,

40:00SPEAKERlike the operation of it is really simple

40:02SPEAKERif you look into how it works

40:03SPEAKERand so like the odds of anybody being able to take that away

40:06SPEAKERfrom you are next to nothing, so.

40:09SPEAKER- Well, but I mean, a self-hosted option

40:12SPEAKERgets you like most of the way there.

40:13SPEAKER- That helps, yeah, but.

40:15SPEAKER- But then you need to put on a VPS someplace,

40:16SPEAKER'cause if you're just hosting it inside your own land,

40:18SPEAKERthen there's like, you're right back to where you started.

40:21SPEAKER- And also the bigger point there for me is

40:23SPEAKERif I'm already going to the trouble

40:24SPEAKERof trying to self-host their self-hosted version

40:28SPEAKERof their management layer,

40:29SPEAKERwhy don't I just put that effort

40:30SPEAKERinto doing the low level configuration instead?

40:33SPEAKERHere's the other thing that has just occurred to me

40:35SPEAKERliterally this week.

40:37SPEAKERI don't know exactly what Tailscales admin stuff

40:40SPEAKERis built out of, but I feel like the lesson of the last week

40:44SPEAKERand all the vulnerabilities popping up

40:46SPEAKERand where we're going with the kind of LLM driven hunt

40:50SPEAKERfor exploits and bugs and so forth is that the,

40:53SPEAKERlike the thicker your stack for doing any particular thing,

40:56SPEAKERlike the more componentry involved in doing a thing,

40:59SPEAKERthe bigger the attack surface.

41:01SPEAKERBecause not only is there the underlying protocol stuff

41:05SPEAKERin this case, but you need to think about,

41:07SPEAKERthere's also every bit of the software

41:09SPEAKERthat they built on top of that to do things for you.

41:12SPEAKERAnd any one of those layers

41:14SPEAKERcould have their own vulnerabilities.

41:15SPEAKER- Especially for stuff that faces the broader internet.

41:18SPEAKER- Yeah, now I'm not like attacking Tailscale here.

41:20SPEAKERLike from everything I've seen,

41:21SPEAKERthey seem like a proper nerdy company

41:24SPEAKERthat really cares about security.

41:25SPEAKERAnd I think has designed their product quite thoughtfully

41:28SPEAKERfrom what I can tell from a distance,

41:30SPEAKERbut still like the more complexity,

41:32SPEAKERthe more possibility for there to be some vulnerability

41:37SPEAKERin some layer of that complexity.

41:39SPEAKERAnd so in addition to wanting to,

41:42SPEAKERI feel like I'm turning into some kind of like

41:44SPEAKERdigital libertarian or something,

41:45SPEAKERbut in addition to wanting like control of everything I have

41:48SPEAKERwhere somebody can't tell me what to do with it,

41:50SPEAKERthere's also this aspect of it now

41:51SPEAKERof just the simpler it is, hopefully,

41:53SPEAKERthe more I shouldn't say bulletproof,

41:56SPEAKERbut you know what I mean?

41:57SPEAKER- The more robust. - Yeah, yeah, the more robust,

41:58SPEAKERthe less vulnerable it is, so time will tell.

42:01SPEAKER- I realized we danced around this.

42:02SPEAKERWe didn't actually say,

42:04SPEAKERwe'll get into the actual stuff

42:06SPEAKERthat happened last week, next week,

42:08SPEAKERwhich I realize is confusing.

42:10SPEAKERBut I talked about it some on take control,

42:14SPEAKERwhich isn't up yet.

42:15SPEAKERBy the time you hear this, it'll be up later this week.

42:17SPEAKERBut if you haven't updated your stuff yet, update your stuff,

42:22SPEAKERupdate your devices, your phones, your browsers,

42:25SPEAKERyour laptops, your computers.

42:27SPEAKERAnd then also, if you're running hosted home lab stuff

42:31SPEAKERthat faces the broader internet, make sure you update that.

42:34SPEAKERThere's a Plex vulnerability that's hitting--

42:36SPEAKER- I heard about that Plex vulnerability.

42:38SPEAKERSounds real bad. - Some older Plex servers.

42:39SPEAKERIt's gnarly, stuff like that.

42:42SPEAKER- Yeah, it's rough out there.

42:43SPEAKER- We're reaching a time now where I think

42:46SPEAKERwe're all gonna have to start updating for zero days

42:48SPEAKERin a way that we haven't really up until this point.

42:51SPEAKER- Yeah, or like don't face services to the open internet

42:54SPEAKERif you absolutely can help it and that kind of thing.

42:56SPEAKERI think people are gonna have to start getting

42:58SPEAKERa lot more buttoned up about how they handle

43:01SPEAKERtheir own personal security.

43:02SPEAKER- Or use a VPS and a reverse proxy

43:04SPEAKERor something to get access to those things.

43:08SPEAKERI feel like the number of days that I'm gonna have

43:10SPEAKERa Plex port open on my LAN is waning.

43:14SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm not, I swear I'm not trying to be smug here

43:17SPEAKERor anything, but I've always just been,

43:18SPEAKERthis is why I have WireGuard set up here,

43:20SPEAKERis I'm very afraid to face anything to the open internet.

43:23SPEAKERAnd this is feeling very validating, I guess I would say.

43:26SPEAKER- Look, just 'cause you were paranoid

43:27SPEAKERdoesn't mean you were right.

43:29SPEAKER- Or wrong.

43:30SPEAKER- Yeah.

43:32SPEAKER- As the case may be.

43:34SPEAKEROkay, I'm gonna read, let's move into the Discord questions.

43:37SPEAKERThere's a question from Feral Pug here

43:39SPEAKERthat is kind of in the same vein.

43:42SPEAKERWhat's the best and safest way to expose

43:43SPEAKERa private game server for friends?

43:46SPEAKERI could give WireGuard keys to people,

43:48SPEAKERbut I don't love the idea of keys that can access

43:50SPEAKERmy network just floating around.

43:52SPEAKERShould I set up tail scale?

43:54SPEAKERShould I just port forward and hope that traffic is secure?

43:58SPEAKER- So I think if the game server is just something

44:00SPEAKERthat you fire up on Tuesday night for like four hours,

44:03SPEAKERport forwarding and turning it on and off

44:05SPEAKERwhen you're using it is totally fair play.

44:07SPEAKER- Probably, but, or at least before the last like six months

44:11SPEAKERI would have agreed with you, but now who knows?

44:14SPEAKER- It depends on the server, is the other thing is.

44:16SPEAKERIf you're running something that's maintained

44:17SPEAKERand updated and current and that's great.

44:20SPEAKERIf you're running a Quake server from like 1996,

44:23SPEAKERdon't do that, you know?

44:25SPEAKER- I don't know, I would think, I mean,

44:26SPEAKERQuake's been open source for 20 something years,

44:29SPEAKERI would hope that it's fairly secure at this point.

44:31SPEAKER- I don't know, I don't mean a Quake fork, a Quake variant.

44:34SPEAKERI mean, if you're running the Quake server from 1996,

44:38SPEAKERdon't, I would not do that today.

44:39SPEAKER- I would still, I don't know, we should.

44:41SPEAKER- You think it's okay?

44:42SPEAKER- I would think it has been pretty well combed over by now.

44:45SPEAKER- Okay, okay, well anyway, the point is,

44:47SPEAKERI think that's fine, if you're running like a Valheim

44:49SPEAKERor a satisfactory server that's up 24 hours a day,

44:51SPEAKERseven days a week, you probably wanna set up

44:53SPEAKERsome infrastructure to get your friends onto that.

44:55SPEAKERAnd I don't think WireGuard is the right answer.

44:57SPEAKERI think you're looking at, I think you want a VPS

44:59SPEAKERor a reverse proxy or something like that, don't you think?

45:02SPEAKER- Yeah, well, but even behind a VPS or whatever,

45:07SPEAKERit's still gonna be open to the internet.

45:10SPEAKER- Well, that's true.

45:11SPEAKER- Traffic from anybody can still reach it,

45:13SPEAKERso if there's a vulnerability in it,

45:14SPEAKERthen anybody can exploit that vulnerability.

45:16SPEAKER- But if you put the proxy on,

45:18SPEAKERyou can allow list your friend's IP addresses.

45:20SPEAKER- Well, yeah, sure, sure, but you can also do that at home

45:22SPEAKERwith your home firewall.

45:25SPEAKER- If your router, like my router won't give me

45:27SPEAKERthat functionality.

45:29SPEAKER- I've never tried, but I assume you could probably

45:32SPEAKERlike allow specific IPs, or I assume you could just filter

45:35SPEAKERat the firewall level for specific IPs,

45:37SPEAKERbut that requires you to know your friend's IPs

45:39SPEAKERand if they change, you're gonna have to keep up with that,

45:42SPEAKERwhich is a pain.

45:43SPEAKER- Well, so like, yes, you could do that

45:45SPEAKERif your router's fully functioning.

45:47SPEAKERLike my router that AT&T provides

45:49SPEAKERabsolutely does not allow me to that level of access.

45:51SPEAKER- But you could still, you could run an additional firewall

45:54SPEAKERon whatever machine was running the server

45:59SPEAKERand do the firewalling there.

46:00SPEAKER- Yeah, except for that machine's gonna see the IP address

46:02SPEAKERof my router probably, isn't it?

46:03SPEAKER- Oh, yeah, it's gonna get added to that, I guess.

46:06SPEAKERWe're not network engineers, that is a thorny one.

46:10SPEAKER- This is a conversation that happens

46:11SPEAKERin the networking channel fairly regularly.

46:13SPEAKER- Yeah, you could, yeah.

46:14SPEAKER- Yeah, like we're probably not the best person

46:16SPEAKERto actually answer this.

46:17SPEAKER- But a VPN is absolutely more secure

46:20SPEAKERthan just opening a port and praying,

46:22SPEAKERwhether it's WireGuard or Tailscale's probably easier.

46:25SPEAKERAgain, I haven't used it, but at that point,

46:27SPEAKERyou would be asking them, I think,

46:28SPEAKERto install the Tailscale client in order to connect.

46:32SPEAKER- It's kind of like, what was the thing

46:33SPEAKERthat people used to use to play Battle.net games,

46:35SPEAKERnot on Battle.net on the LAN?

46:36SPEAKER- Oh, gosh.

46:38SPEAKER- Do you know what I'm talking about?

46:39SPEAKER- There's Kali, there were a bunch of them out there.

46:40SPEAKER- There's another one.

46:41SPEAKERIt's not Kali, it's, oh boy, can't remember.

46:45SPEAKERBasically, sort of like a local network emulator.

46:48SPEAKER- It was basically a low-key.

46:50SPEAKER- Like a LAN to IP kind of thing.

46:51SPEAKER- It was an unencrypted VPN, basically, yeah.

46:54SPEAKER- Like just a tunnel.

46:56SPEAKER- Yeah.

46:57SPEAKER- If you know WireGuard well,

46:58SPEAKERit's actually not that hard to get people onto it

47:01SPEAKERbecause you can just, the configuration is just a few lines

47:03SPEAKERof text that you can send them.

47:05SPEAKERAnd in fact, you don't even need to do that

47:07SPEAKERbecause once you do write the config for them,

47:09SPEAKERyou can send it to them in like a zip file

47:11SPEAKERand the OS clients, like the desktop clients,

47:14SPEAKERwill just import it from like a zip file of the text,

47:16SPEAKERor you can even generate a QR code

47:18SPEAKERand let them do it that way.

47:19SPEAKER- But then you're giving them access

47:21SPEAKERto the entirety of your LAN?

47:22SPEAKER- No, absolutely not.

47:23SPEAKERSo you choose in the WireGuard config

47:26SPEAKERwhat network resources the other endpoint has access to,

47:29SPEAKERand so you can filter it down to the specific IP

47:32SPEAKERon your LAN that you, like that site-to-site topology

47:36SPEAKERthat I set up at my mom's house was specifically created

47:42SPEAKERto let everything on one LAN talk to everything

47:44SPEAKERon another LAN, but that is just one option.

47:46SPEAKERThat's just a, that's one layout that you could do,

47:49SPEAKERbut by and large, you would constrain what,

47:53SPEAKERbasically the kind of quote-unquote client,

47:55SPEAKERthe remote machine, like you can tell it,

47:57SPEAKERyou can set in the config exactly what on your LAN

48:00SPEAKERthat thing can see.

48:01SPEAKERSo you would drill down to,

48:04SPEAKERI don't know if you can specify just a port number

48:06SPEAKERin the WireGuard config, I'm sure you can,

48:07SPEAKERbut basically you could say this--

48:10SPEAKER- You can just say you can access this IP address

48:11SPEAKERin this port.

48:12SPEAKER- This remote client can only see this one IP

48:14SPEAKERon the network, and probably, I've never tried it,

48:17SPEAKERbut I assume only on this specific port,

48:20SPEAKERand then it wouldn't know anything else about your LAN.

48:22SPEAKER- Hamachi is the thing that I was talking about.

48:25SPEAKER- Yes, yes, yes, yes, I've never used that,

48:26SPEAKERbut I do remember that going around.

48:28SPEAKERAnyway, that's probably enough half-informed networking talk,

48:32SPEAKERbut I think, I mean, it's only more important

48:36SPEAKERto understand this stuff as things get crazier out there.

48:39SPEAKER- Yeah, and like I said, the TLDR is,

48:42SPEAKERI think short windows, you turn it on and off,

48:45SPEAKERit's fine to do the port.

48:46SPEAKER- Probably, and like, you know, popular game servers

48:49SPEAKERlike Satisfactory or Valheim, I would hope

48:52SPEAKERare gonna get updated pretty frequently

48:53SPEAKERif anything is actually found in them.

48:55SPEAKER- If you're running like a freelancer server

48:57SPEAKERthat hasn't been updated since 2004,

48:59SPEAKERprobably consider doing a VPN for that.

49:02SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, better safe than sorry.

49:05SPEAKER- Yeah.

49:07SPEAKER- Let's see, D3 Jake, I'm currently in the market

49:11SPEAKERfor a five and a quarter drive bay insert

49:13SPEAKERfor my desktop to give me more front-facing ports.

49:17SPEAKERThe one king wind brand option at Micro Center

49:19SPEAKERdoesn't quite fit my needs, so I started looking online.

49:22SPEAKERAs you would imagine, I found a wall of no-name products

49:24SPEAKERthat could fit my needs.

49:26SPEAKERThis brought up a question, is there a good way

49:27SPEAKERto filter out which products may be terrible

49:30SPEAKERor is it all a roll of the dice hoping that it will last?

49:34SPEAKER- I look at user, like quantity of user reviews for this.

49:37SPEAKER- Yeah, and what they're saying as well, of course,

49:40SPEAKERbut yeah, it's the best thing I can come up with.

49:44SPEAKER- Like, I generally, now that we have a Micro Center,

49:47SPEAKERI often will look at what the Micro Center option is

49:49SPEAKER'cause they do a pretty good job of vetting

49:51SPEAKERthis kind of screwy product.

49:53SPEAKERLike this is, the problem with this

49:54SPEAKERis it's a little bit of a weird product category

49:56SPEAKER'cause it's relatively easy to build these

49:58SPEAKERand there's a lot of kind of janky clones

50:00SPEAKERand if you get one, it'll have a bunch of USB 3 ports

50:02SPEAKERthat work really well and you're gonna get full power

50:05SPEAKERto all of them and if you get the wrong one,

50:07SPEAKERyou're gonna have USB 2 ports that have full power

50:10SPEAKERbut that are very, very slow when you're trying

50:11SPEAKERto actually transfer files and stuff off of them.

50:13SPEAKERSo buy it from someplace you can return it

50:17SPEAKERand buy the one with the most user reviews,

50:19SPEAKEReven if it's like, if there's 1,000 four-star reviews

50:23SPEAKERand eight five-star reviews,

50:25SPEAKERI'll do the 1,000 four-star reviews all day long.

50:27SPEAKER- Sure, oh yeah, absolutely.

50:29SPEAKERBigger, bigger sample size, better, of course.

50:31SPEAKERI also love looking at both the best reviews

50:34SPEAKERand the worst reviews 'cause if there's like,

50:37SPEAKERif you're talking about 1,000 reviews

50:38SPEAKERand there's 3/10 of a percent of one-star reviews,

50:43SPEAKERthat's still a couple of dozen reviews

50:45SPEAKERand you'll learn a lot about whether the problems

50:48SPEAKERpeople are having are self-inflicted

50:49SPEAKERbecause they don't know what they're doing

50:51SPEAKERor are actually some problem with the device.

50:54SPEAKER- I feel like we should say in this very specific case,

50:58SPEAKERlike kind of routing internal ports to external connectors

51:01SPEAKERis notoriously fraught.

51:02SPEAKERLike case ports, like anything like a USB

51:05SPEAKERthat has to go through an additional cable,

51:07SPEAKERlike those are always a little jank.

51:10SPEAKERLike I would kind of just gird yourself

51:13SPEAKERfor maybe not getting max speed

51:14SPEAKERor like not enough wattage out of your USB

51:17SPEAKERor whatever it is you're doing.

51:18SPEAKERLike there's always like weird little behavioral quirks

51:22SPEAKERwith those types of ports.

51:23SPEAKER- I was gonna say it's also,

51:25SPEAKERif you just want power for those,

51:28SPEAKERit's a very different thing

51:29SPEAKERthan if you want high speed data, right?

51:31SPEAKER- Yeah.

51:32SPEAKER- Like getting four USB-C 3.2 ports

51:35SPEAKERon the front of your computer,

51:36SPEAKERit turns out really difficult.

51:37SPEAKERLike my motherboard doesn't have headers for that.

51:39SPEAKER- Right.

51:40SPEAKER- So yeah.

51:41SPEAKER- And we should add if you're like,

51:42SPEAKERif you're putting in an extra card

51:44SPEAKERor an M.2 thing that gives you more USB ports,

51:47SPEAKERthat's gonna be a different type of USB controller

51:49SPEAKERthan what's on your motherboard

51:50SPEAKERand it may suck in some way.

51:52SPEAKER- Or it may be better depending on the motherboard.

51:54SPEAKER- Yeah, that is entirely possible.

51:55SPEAKERI have had motherboards with some real shit

51:57SPEAKERUSB controllers on them.

51:59SPEAKER- So say we all.

52:02SPEAKER- Okay, console command.

52:03SPEAKER- Yes.

52:04SPEAKER- Brad's mention of making use of what you have

52:06SPEAKERreminded me of a Home Assistant Yellow,

52:08SPEAKERwhich is a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 with, wait.

52:12SPEAKER- So the Home Assistant Yellow is a-

52:14SPEAKER- What?

52:15SPEAKER- So the Raspberry Pi,

52:17SPEAKERthe Home Assistant Yellow was their second gen hardware

52:20SPEAKERthey built themselves.

52:21SPEAKER- But do they mean RAM?

52:24SPEAKER- So you can get them,

52:26SPEAKERyou can get them three or four different ways.

52:28SPEAKERThey have EMC storage as well as up to 32 gigs of RAM

52:33SPEAKERon those compute modules.

52:34SPEAKER- Oh my God.

52:35SPEAKER- So at the time when I bought mine,

52:37SPEAKERmy 32 gig one was like a hundred bucks.

52:40SPEAKER- Remember when 32 gig of memory was nothing like in cost?

52:43SPEAKERLike that's how much my perception of these things

52:45SPEAKERhas become skewed that the idea of 32 gig on this thing now

52:49SPEAKERis like, okay, I guess you're made of money over there,

52:51SPEAKERbut yeah, it's like, what's it been like three years

52:53SPEAKERsince that was absolutely nothing?

52:54SPEAKER- Four years, so I don't know if this is,

52:56SPEAKERI don't think there's a 32 gig RAM configuration.

52:59SPEAKERI think this is probably a 32 gig EMC configuration.

53:02SPEAKER- Okay, that's for storage.

53:03SPEAKER- Yeah, 'cause I think 16 is the highest

53:07SPEAKERthat the actual Pi, like SBCs go.

53:10SPEAKER- I think it's as high as the Pi 4 goes.

53:11SPEAKERI think the five, you can go higher theoretically.

53:14SPEAKER- All right, anyway, yes.

53:18SPEAKERThey have a Home Assistant Yellow sitting around.

53:21SPEAKERThere's over a year between ordering it and receiving it.

53:23SPEAKERAnd in that time, I set up Home Assistant on a new NAS.

53:26SPEAKERSo when it arrived, I didn't have much use for it.

53:28SPEAKERAny ideas on what I can use it for?

53:30SPEAKERI'm guessing it's basically a Raspberry Pi,

53:32SPEAKERbut are there any unique projects

53:35SPEAKERthat can handle that a regular Pi may not?

53:39SPEAKER- So I looked into this a lot.

53:41SPEAKERThere's a bunch of projects

53:42SPEAKERthat use Raspberry Pi compute modules.

53:44SPEAKERThe only difference between the compute module

53:46SPEAKERand a Raspberry Pi on a board

53:48SPEAKERis that the compute module exposes the headers

53:50SPEAKERin a smaller connection.

53:52SPEAKERSo you can jam it onto a custom board

53:55SPEAKERand then they expose whatever headers

53:56SPEAKERthey want through the custom board.

53:58SPEAKER- 'Cause it doesn't have the ports of the proper SBC,

54:00SPEAKERthe small board computer, right?

54:01SPEAKERLike it's kind of just a board with the chip on it

54:03SPEAKERand the header and not,

54:05SPEAKERlike it doesn't have ethernet and USB on it itself, right?

54:07SPEAKER- Or any of the pins for hats or any of that stuff.

54:10SPEAKER- Right.

54:10SPEAKER- But, so A, you could go find a project

54:13SPEAKERthat uses one of those CM4 compute module boards,

54:17SPEAKERwhich is, like I said, it's essentially the same

54:20SPEAKERas a Raspberry Pi 4

54:21SPEAKERthat comes in a bunch of different configurations.

54:24SPEAKERSo if you, but if you can't find a project that does that,

54:26SPEAKERthere's a couple of like arcade boards

54:27SPEAKERand all sorts of stuff like that.

54:29SPEAKERYou also can buy a thing from Raspberry Pi

54:31SPEAKERcalled the Raspberry Pi compute module IO board,

54:34SPEAKERwhich when I looked was like, it was 30 bucks or something.

54:38SPEAKERAnd with that, 3850 from pyshop.us,

54:44SPEAKERthat gives you basically the board pinouts

54:47SPEAKERof a normal Raspberry Pi board with that compute module.

54:50SPEAKERSo it turns it into a more or less normal.

54:52SPEAKERI don't think it fits with hats,

54:54SPEAKERbut you get like USB-C and HDMI and all that stuff.

54:56SPEAKER- Okay, all right, yeah, so that's cool.

54:58SPEAKERYou could basically turn it

54:59SPEAKERinto a fully functional computer.

55:01SPEAKER- Yeah, it even has like a little PCI express

55:03SPEAKERone by one slot, it looks like.

55:04SPEAKERIt's kind of wild.

55:05SPEAKER- That's neat.

55:06SPEAKER- Yeah.

55:07SPEAKER- Yep.

55:08SPEAKER- The other big thing to look at is

55:10SPEAKERthere's a bunch of laptop and like keyboards with HDMI,

55:15SPEAKERlike keyboards that basically are computers.

55:17SPEAKERYou can jam one of those compute modules into

55:19SPEAKERand it'll turn into like a full-ass Linux computer.

55:21SPEAKER- Oh, that's neat.

55:22SPEAKER- Which I think is really cool.

55:23SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, I'm sure there's all kinds of stuff

55:25SPEAKERyou could find to do with that thing.

55:28SPEAKERGrand Wizard Patch the Pedant,

55:30SPEAKERI believe that might be a Halloween.

55:32SPEAKER- Yeah, so yeah, we're into the, 'tis the season.

55:34SPEAKER- There's a good number of Halloween-ish usernames in here.

55:39SPEAKERYou marked this, I have no answer for this,

55:41SPEAKERbut please tell us what your favorite pin is,

55:44SPEAKERand if it's different, what pin you would use

55:46SPEAKERfor jotting things down so we can all judge you.

55:49SPEAKERBonus question, do you have a favorite type of notebook,

55:51SPEAKERField Notes, Moleskine, Midori MD, Habinichi, et cetera?

55:56SPEAKERI have no answer for any of this other than to say

55:59SPEAKERI don't know a thing about pens or notebooks.

56:01SPEAKER- Do you use paper anymore even really?

56:02SPEAKER- Barely, almost ever.

56:04SPEAKER- So I do a lot of sketching and note-taking for stuff,

56:07SPEAKERespecially when I'm working on projects.

56:09SPEAKERThe pen, I don't use pens very much anymore though.

56:11SPEAKERI mostly am a pencil person these days, it turns out.

56:13SPEAKER- Yeah, we've talked about the high-end

56:15SPEAKERmechanical pencils out there recently.

56:17SPEAKER- But yeah, I do a Uniball Signo Micro 207,

56:20SPEAKERwhich is I think a 20 mil, 0.2 mil pen.

56:24SPEAKERIt's a gel ink, so it's smooth and feels nice.

56:28SPEAKER- Is it, wait, is that a newer ink?

56:29SPEAKER- No, I mean, it's 20-year-old technology

56:33SPEAKERat this point probably.

56:34SPEAKER- I typically use whatever pen I have handy

56:36SPEAKERfrom the vet's office or the bank or whatever.

56:39SPEAKERI still have pens from CNET, from when I worked at CNET.

56:44SPEAKER- Wait, does the pen from the bank

56:45SPEAKERstill have the chain attached to it,

56:46SPEAKERor do you take the ones that they, the complementary ones?

56:48SPEAKER- I don't mean that kind of pen.

56:49SPEAKER- Okay, okay.

56:50SPEAKER- I mean the ones for customers to take.

56:52SPEAKER- The pencil I use these days most often

56:55SPEAKERis a Tombow monograph, and it's a fine ink,

57:00SPEAKERa fine 0.5 mil lead

57:04SPEAKERand has the good mono plastic eraser in the top.

57:08SPEAKERAnd I've gone through two of those erasers

57:10SPEAKERand replaced the lead a couple of times,

57:11SPEAKERso that thing's fabulous.

57:15SPEAKERMirror Universe Shags Magoo.

57:17SPEAKERKitKats are the best candy to receive

57:19SPEAKERwhile trick-or-treating.

57:20SPEAKERDiscuss, and by discuss, I mean agree with me.

57:23SPEAKER- KitKat's a high tier for me.

57:25SPEAKER- I'm not not agreeing with you.

57:26SPEAKERKitKat is absolutely up there.

57:28SPEAKER- It's not like, it's in the, look,

57:33SPEAKERon the A, on the S tier, I have like 100 grands, Twix.

57:39SPEAKER- Twix, yeah.

57:40SPEAKER- If they made tiny Whatchamacallits,

57:42SPEAKERthat would be up there.

57:43SPEAKERLike man, Whatchamacallit is so cool.

57:46SPEAKERWhatchamacallit is a sleeper, top tier candy bar.

57:48SPEAKERDo you remember the Whatchamacallit ad from the late 80s

57:51SPEAKERthat really out there animated Whatchamacallit

57:54SPEAKERwith the super catchy theme song?

57:57SPEAKER- It looked like it was made by the same people

57:58SPEAKERwho made the OK soda commercials like five years later.

58:01SPEAKER- It was in fact directed and animated

58:04SPEAKERby like very notable director and animator pair.

58:07SPEAKERI can't remember what they had worked on,

58:08SPEAKERbut they had done like some pretty-

58:10SPEAKER- That's cool.

58:11SPEAKER- Pretty well-respected animation previously

58:13SPEAKERbefore they got hired.

58:14SPEAKERI forget, like if you find it on YouTube,

58:15SPEAKERlike the comments, you'll immediately see

58:17SPEAKERwho I'm talking about.

58:18SPEAKERI forget, it was like a German director,

58:20SPEAKERI think of some note.

58:21SPEAKER- I'll dig it up and put it in the show notes.

58:23SPEAKER- That is the best candy commercial ever made

58:25SPEAKERas far as I'm concerned, but-

58:26SPEAKER- I like, I'm a sucker for whatever weird candy science

58:31SPEAKERReese's does at any given year.

58:34SPEAKER- Well, okay, so I need to divert this conversation here.

58:37SPEAKERDid you see this business recently where the,

58:40SPEAKERlike the air of the founder of the Reese's candy company-

58:43SPEAKER- Oh no.

58:44SPEAKER- Sent like an angry letter to the board of whoever,

58:46SPEAKERlike, you know, I guess Reese's is like a public company now

58:49SPEAKERbecause they have started cutting so many corners

58:51SPEAKERon the product that he's like pissed

58:53SPEAKERat how crappy it has gotten now.

58:55SPEAKER- Well, I mean, I think the cups are worse

58:56SPEAKERthan they've ever been.

58:57SPEAKERI would agree with that.

58:58SPEAKER- Like the peanut butter, the filling has no relation

59:01SPEAKERto actual peanut butter at this point,

59:02SPEAKERbut the bigger one is that,

59:03SPEAKERand I think this is like an industry-wide thing

59:05SPEAKERthat I need to follow up on apparently.

59:06SPEAKERDo you remember when chocolate got super expensive

59:08SPEAKERlike two or three years ago?

59:10SPEAKER- Yeah.

59:11SPEAKER- Like, I think this might be,

59:12SPEAKERthat might be when this started that like,

59:14SPEAKERI think kind of the whole candy industry

59:16SPEAKERhas started cutting corners on chocolate ingredients

59:19SPEAKERand like subbing in, you know-

59:22SPEAKER- Sawdust and toenails.

59:23SPEAKER- Basically like lesser facsimiles

59:25SPEAKERof certain components and chocolate

59:27SPEAKERand that it's all worse now, basically.

59:29SPEAKER- I can see that, that seems right.

59:30SPEAKER- This was being held up as an example

59:32SPEAKERof just the general degradation of everything in society

59:35SPEAKERthat I was reading about.

59:37SPEAKER- Everything's shittier.

59:39SPEAKER- Yeah. - Yeah, that's bad.

59:42SPEAKER- I don't know, I've always felt like Snickers

59:44SPEAKERis the king of candy bars.

59:45SPEAKER- See, I don't like a Snickers really.

59:46SPEAKER- Oh man, there's just so much in there

59:48SPEAKERand there's so much going on.

59:49SPEAKER- It's like one thing too many.

59:52SPEAKERTake us a nougat, you know, just all caramel and nuts.

59:55SPEAKER- That was always my go-to.

59:57SPEAKER- They do make an all caramel Snickers now,

59:58SPEAKERwhich I will tell you is strong.

1:00:01SPEAKERIt's caramel and nuts.

1:00:02SPEAKER- All right.

1:00:03SPEAKER- A caramelo God tier.

1:00:05SPEAKERSomebody puts caramelo squares in my bucket.

1:00:07SPEAKER- Well, that's a little too much sticking in the teeth

1:00:09SPEAKERfor me, but I can respect it.

1:00:12SPEAKER- I'm putting a bag of potatoes out next to the candy

1:00:16SPEAKERto see if any of the kids take potatoes.

1:00:20SPEAKER- You do that.

1:00:21SPEAKER- I'll let you know how it goes in a couple of weeks.

1:00:22SPEAKER- All right, I'm just nodding here.

1:00:25SPEAKERQuestion from that goth girl,

1:00:26SPEAKERI should have mentioned this earlier

1:00:27SPEAKERwhen we were talking about monitors,

1:00:29SPEAKERbut when considering a new monitor

1:00:31SPEAKERas someone who isn't very frame rate sensitive,

1:00:33SPEAKERis there much of a difference between 120, 144, 165,

1:00:37SPEAKERand 240 Hertz monitors?

1:00:39SPEAKERIs it all for being able to have a clean multiple

1:00:41SPEAKERof lower refresh rates to go into?

1:00:44SPEAKER- Yes.

1:00:45SPEAKER- You think so?

1:00:46SPEAKER- Yeah, so if you're watching video,

1:00:48SPEAKERhaving a 240 Hertz monitor is much better

1:00:50SPEAKERthan having a 165 or 144.

1:00:53SPEAKER- I didn't think about that, sure.

1:00:54SPEAKER- 'Cause it's just, you know,

1:00:55SPEAKERyou show each frame of a 24 Hertz movie 10 times.

1:00:58SPEAKER- Oh, I did not consider that angle on this.

1:01:01SPEAKER- Same thing for 120.

1:01:02SPEAKER- I was gonna say that makes me wonder

1:01:04SPEAKERif I should be running my desktop at 120 instead of 144.

1:01:07SPEAKER- Well, so 144, 144 is a clean multiple tube,

1:01:11SPEAKER165 is not.

1:01:13SPEAKER- Okay.

1:01:14SPEAKER- So, wait, is that right?

1:01:16SPEAKERIs 24, does 24 go into 144?

1:01:19SPEAKER- Maybe.

1:01:20SPEAKER- Let me calculator here.

1:01:21SPEAKER- Yeah, I think so, yes, because it does,

1:01:22SPEAKERyes, it does into 120,

1:01:23SPEAKERand that's just one more iteration of 24.

1:01:25SPEAKERI'm doing math the weird way in my head right now,

1:01:27SPEAKERbut yes, it does. - Yeah, six frames.

1:01:29SPEAKER- For 24 Hertz, yes, for 60, no.

1:01:32SPEAKER- Yeah, that's exactly it.

1:01:33SPEAKERThat's what I mean is that watching 60 Hertz

1:01:36SPEAKERor even 30 Hertz is probably not a clean, I don't know.

1:01:42SPEAKER- So 240 and 120 both have clean multiples

1:01:45SPEAKERfor 24 and 60, which is good.

1:01:47SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:01:49SPEAKER- It matters less for games and stuff like that.

1:01:52SPEAKER- Yeah, absolutely. - I would say.

1:01:53SPEAKER- Like I can't really tell a difference from 120 up.

1:01:57SPEAKERI'm sure some people like professional esportsists

1:02:00SPEAKERwould disagree, but like I can't tell the difference

1:02:03SPEAKERbetween 120, 144, et cetera.

1:02:05SPEAKER- I will say when I moved off of the 360 Hertz monitor

1:02:09SPEAKERto the 165 Hertz monitor,

1:02:12SPEAKERI feel like getting like the quick flick head shocks

1:02:15SPEAKERgot harder again, it took some adjustment.

1:02:17SPEAKER- I fully believe there is like some kind of,

1:02:19SPEAKERyou could probably subconsciously get habituated

1:02:21SPEAKERto a higher refresh to the point

1:02:23SPEAKERthat it would hurt to get off of it,

1:02:25SPEAKERbut I don't think I would ever notice it consciously.

1:02:27SPEAKER- Yeah, it is like anything else,

1:02:30SPEAKERI think that there's a spectrum of human perception

1:02:32SPEAKERon this stuff and that probably,

1:02:35SPEAKERif you don't feel like you're perceptive,

1:02:37SPEAKERI definitely, I will say the difference between

1:02:39SPEAKERa 60 Hertz panel and a 120 Hertz panel,

1:02:42SPEAKERlike on phones, pad tablets, whatever,

1:02:44SPEAKERI don't ever wanna go back below 120 Hertz.

1:02:48SPEAKER- I think that's the point that needs to be made here

1:02:49SPEAKERis that it is definitely a diminishing returns thing

1:02:52SPEAKERof like above 120, it's harder to tell,

1:02:55SPEAKERbut like from 60 to 120 is like night and day.

1:02:58SPEAKER- Agreed.

1:02:58SPEAKER- That even from like 60 to 90 in games

1:03:00SPEAKERthat have like variable or that you can set

1:03:02SPEAKERat different whatevers.

1:03:04SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:03:04SPEAKER- Like I can very much see a difference

1:03:06SPEAKERbetween 60 and 90 and 60 to 120 is a huge leap.

1:03:09SPEAKERIt's specifically once you get way up

1:03:11SPEAKERinto the three digit refresh that I can't really tell.

1:03:14SPEAKER- The other asterisk on that is when you get

1:03:16SPEAKERto the really, really high refresh rates,

1:03:18SPEAKERespecially with OLED, you can do all sorts

1:03:20SPEAKERof neat shader stuff where you're mimicking

1:03:21SPEAKERlike frame blur and stuff like that from phosphor glow

1:03:25SPEAKERfrom CRTs, but that's a little bit of a specialty thing

1:03:28SPEAKERand those monitors are phenomenally expensive.

1:03:30SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm sure that is, I wonder,

1:03:32SPEAKERand this is like, we should get John Linneman

1:03:35SPEAKERfrom Digital Foundry on here

1:03:37SPEAKERbecause he is very passionate about the subject,

1:03:38SPEAKERbut I wonder if maybe in the future,

1:03:42SPEAKERlike super high refresh is going to be the antidote

1:03:44SPEAKERfor the problem of sample and hold displays these days

1:03:48SPEAKER'cause I don't know a ton about the subject,

1:03:51SPEAKERso I don't want to speak out of turn,

1:03:52SPEAKERbut basically when we went from,

1:03:54SPEAKERwe went from like lower persistence displays,

1:03:56SPEAKERlike CRTs and plasmas to LCDs and OLEDs,

1:04:00SPEAKERthose displays don't refresh as fast and have,

1:04:03SPEAKERlike basically you get a ton of motion blur

1:04:05SPEAKERon modern displays that you did not get

1:04:07SPEAKERon those older technologies.

1:04:09SPEAKERAnd I'm wondering if getting like 600 Hertz panels

1:04:12SPEAKERthat just display, like they take a 60 Hertz signal

1:04:15SPEAKERand just display each, like they refresh each frame 10 times.

1:04:19SPEAKERLike I wonder if that's gonna maybe be the end goal

1:04:23SPEAKERfor just eliminating the motion blur

1:04:26SPEAKERon these current sample and hold type screens.

1:04:28SPEAKERI don't know.

1:04:29SPEAKER- I don't know, we'll see.

1:04:30SPEAKER- Anyway.

1:04:31SPEAKER- We should get John Linneman,

1:04:31SPEAKERI'd love to talk to him about that.

1:04:33SPEAKER- Yeah, for sure.

1:04:35SPEAKEROkay, a couple of quick keyboard ones, I think.

1:04:39SPEAKERGriogear, I think might be how you say this username.

1:04:42SPEAKERI don't know.

1:04:43SPEAKEROn a recent episode,

1:04:44SPEAKERyou both mentioned macros and keyboard shortcuts.

1:04:46SPEAKERI recently switched to a split mechanical keyboard

1:04:49SPEAKERto ease my RSI.

1:04:51SPEAKERIt only has 54 keys and is configurable with layers

1:04:54SPEAKERfor different functions, such as the numpad.

1:04:56SPEAKERAnd I have a few macros programmed into it.

1:04:58SPEAKERI'm wondering if either of you have thought about that.

1:05:01SPEAKER- So I'm terrible about automating stuff.

1:05:05SPEAKER- In general?

1:05:06SPEAKER- I'm just bad at it, I don't do it.

1:05:07SPEAKERI never, I almost never do it.

1:05:09SPEAKERMy workflows are such that I hardly ever am doing

1:05:11SPEAKERthe exact same keystrokes in the same way.

1:05:13SPEAKERIt's not like I'm copying and spacing

1:05:16SPEAKERand doing all this kind of stuff.

1:05:18SPEAKERThat said, somebody asked me the other day,

1:05:21SPEAKERif I was gonna vibe code an app, what would I vibe code?

1:05:25SPEAKERLike, what was the thing that I would want?

1:05:27SPEAKERAnd it's a thing that watches my keystrokes

1:05:29SPEAKERand like picks out keystrokes I repeat constantly

1:05:32SPEAKERthroughout the day and just my brain doesn't notice

1:05:34SPEAKERthat I'm doing that and then makes me macros for it.

1:05:38SPEAKER- Interesting, okay, yeah, sure.

1:05:40SPEAKERI could see that or that could also be done traditionally.

1:05:43SPEAKERBut that is a good idea for a piece of software though.

1:05:46SPEAKER- Yeah, I went and looked after I pitched this concept

1:05:49SPEAKERand I couldn't find anything that does that, so.

1:05:52SPEAKERAlso, I don't think I would want somebody else

1:05:53SPEAKERwriting a piece of software that has that level of access

1:05:56SPEAKERto my keystrokes.

1:05:56SPEAKER- Yeah, I was gonna say you're basically making

1:05:58SPEAKERa de facto key logger at that point, which is maybe fraught.

1:06:02SPEAKER- Yeah. - I don't know.

1:06:04SPEAKER- Do you use macros and stuff?

1:06:06SPEAKER- Not user defined, well, in a few places like Audacity,

1:06:11SPEAKER'cause I edit a lot of podcasts every week.

1:06:13SPEAKERI absolutely have set up a ton of custom shortcuts.

1:06:16SPEAKERI mean, I love--

1:06:17SPEAKER- But that's different than a macro, right?

1:06:19SPEAKER- Yeah, sure, I guess it is.

1:06:20SPEAKER- Like a macro--

1:06:21SPEAKER- Those are just custom shortcuts.

1:06:23SPEAKER- When I was working for the magazine, we were doing tests

1:06:25SPEAKERand I used to have a macro that would generate

1:06:27SPEAKERlike all the head matter for like a draft of an article

1:06:31SPEAKERor something.

1:06:32SPEAKER- I mean, I think a macro for the purpose of this discussion

1:06:34SPEAKERis like combining multiple actions into one action, right?

1:06:37SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:06:39SPEAKER- Yeah, not so much.

1:06:40SPEAKERAnd actually, ironically, I do that in Audacity as well,

1:06:42SPEAKER'cause when I do the post-processing on our audio,

1:06:45SPEAKERit's, God, what is it?

1:06:49SPEAKERLike loudness normalization, compression, de-essing, EQ,

1:06:55SPEAKERanother compression stack, the point is--

1:06:57SPEAKER- Oh, right, 'cause you can't do those as a FX stack.

1:06:59SPEAKER- It's a bunch of different filters in a chain

1:07:02SPEAKERthat run into the macro, but like OS wide, not really.

1:07:06SPEAKER- Yeah. - Not really my thing.

1:07:07SPEAKERAlso, in case you're asking about the split keyboard aspect

1:07:10SPEAKERof this, I am, for whatever reason,

1:07:13SPEAKERI'm a real traditionalist about input devices.

1:07:16SPEAKERSo I kind of, I like the full 104 keys or whatever it is.

1:07:21SPEAKER- Wild.

1:07:22SPEAKER- But anyway.

1:07:23SPEAKER- See, I have a removable 10 key, 80 keys life, baby.

1:07:28SPEAKER- Dragon, J Ragon, I'm not sure is the username here.

1:07:33SPEAKERThe other keyboard question.

1:07:35SPEAKERWith the expense that basically all hardware has gotten

1:07:38SPEAKERexcept for displays, my brain remembered

1:07:40SPEAKERthat flash in the pan idea

1:07:42SPEAKERthat never really materialized the Optimus keyboard.

1:07:44SPEAKER- Oh God.

1:07:45SPEAKER- Do you know what that is?

1:07:46SPEAKERI have to look at that. - Oh, I remember.

1:07:47SPEAKEROh, do I remember it?

1:07:48SPEAKERWe had it in the magazine.

1:07:50SPEAKER- Oh, wait.

1:07:51SPEAKEROkay, well, I'll finish the question first.

1:07:52SPEAKERLCD tech has really improved in the last two decades,

1:07:55SPEAKERboth in capabilities and cost.

1:07:58SPEAKERHas anyone taken a proper shot at that idea?

1:08:00SPEAKERI realize it would be DOA without wide software support,

1:08:03SPEAKERbut it's still fun to think about.

1:08:04SPEAKERIs it really that old?

1:08:05SPEAKER- Yeah, the original pitch was like it might've been tested,

1:08:08SPEAKERbut it was a long time ago.

1:08:10SPEAKER- I mean, they mentioned in the past two decades.

1:08:12SPEAKERSo I assume this was like roughly 20 years ago.

1:08:15SPEAKERWhat the Optimus is or was is basically envision

1:08:19SPEAKERa stream deck, but a keyboard.

1:08:21SPEAKERLike the keyboard is a giant LCD screen

1:08:23SPEAKERwith a bunch of transparent keys over top of it.

1:08:25SPEAKERAnd then the keys can like dynamically display

1:08:28SPEAKERwhatever kind of value you want.

1:08:30SPEAKERAnd I guess I assume the idea for that

1:08:32SPEAKERwas you would run different applications

1:08:33SPEAKERand like you'd run Photoshop

1:08:35SPEAKERand it would show all the keyboard shortcuts on the keys

1:08:37SPEAKERfor all the different Photoshop shortcuts

1:08:39SPEAKERand that kind of thing.

1:08:40SPEAKERIs that correct?

1:08:41SPEAKER- That is right.

1:08:43SPEAKERI think, however, it wasn't,

1:08:45SPEAKERlike the stream deck is a screen

1:08:46SPEAKERwith a bunch of clear plastic keys over it.

1:08:48SPEAKERThe Optimus was 104 tiny OLED keys each on each, yeah.

1:08:52SPEAKER- Oh, this would have been before OLED, right?

1:08:54SPEAKER- No, it was OLED, OLED was around.

1:08:56SPEAKER- That long ago?

1:08:57SPEAKER- Yeah, OLED was around for a long time.

1:08:59SPEAKER- Yeah, you're right.

1:08:59SPEAKERI guess like the Sony handhelds

1:09:01SPEAKERwere using AMOLED quite a while ago.

1:09:02SPEAKER- Yeah, like the Zune HD is an OLED screen.

1:09:05SPEAKER- Right, sure, yeah.

1:09:06SPEAKERWait, so it was a bunch of tiny screens per key?

1:09:09SPEAKERThat sounds insane.

1:09:10SPEAKER- A bunch of tiny screens, one on each key.

1:09:12SPEAKER- It seems like at this point

1:09:13SPEAKERyou would just do one big display

1:09:14SPEAKERwith like segmented keys or a few ports.

1:09:16SPEAKER- It would feel crappy and mushy though.

1:09:18SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I don't know that this is a great idea

1:09:21SPEAKERin any case personally,

1:09:22SPEAKERbut there are too many compromises, I think.

1:09:25SPEAKER- Yeah, fundamentally the problem is that

1:09:28SPEAKERI don't look at my keyboard ever.

1:09:30SPEAKER- Yeah, there is that.

1:09:31SPEAKER- Well, I don't either, but I, you know,

1:09:33SPEAKERif I were in something as sprawling as Photoshop,

1:09:35SPEAKERI might actually look if it helped me

1:09:37SPEAKERget to the thing I was trying to do faster.

1:09:40SPEAKER- That's true.

1:09:41SPEAKERSo they announced it. - But generally I'm with you.

1:09:43SPEAKER- The initial design was featured on Slashdot in 2005.

1:09:47SPEAKER- Just saying it was on Slashdot

1:09:49SPEAKERkind of dates this whole thing.

1:09:50SPEAKER- Yeah, and then by 2006, it was number 10

1:09:54SPEAKERon Wired magazines of 2006 vaporware awards.

1:09:57SPEAKER- All right.

1:09:59SPEAKER- There's been other keyboards that do that.

1:10:01SPEAKERI mean, the Stream Deck is probably

1:10:02SPEAKERthe most popular of those.

1:10:05SPEAKERI think the fundamental issue is that

1:10:06SPEAKERI would rather have a keyboard that feels good

1:10:08SPEAKERthan looks good because I don't really want to,

1:10:10SPEAKERI don't care what it looks like.

1:10:11SPEAKERI don't ever look at it.

1:10:13SPEAKERLike if you could get it to repel dust and hair,

1:10:15SPEAKERI'd be all about that.

1:10:17SPEAKER- Let me ask a quick mechanical keyboard

1:10:19SPEAKERsidebar question here.

1:10:20SPEAKER- Yes.

1:10:21SPEAKER- Is it expected that switches just wear out over time

1:10:23SPEAKERand need to be replaced?

1:10:24SPEAKER'Cause I've been getting a lot of weird repeats,

1:10:28SPEAKERlike double inputs lately on different keys that come and go.

1:10:32SPEAKER- Sometimes that's a software,

1:10:33SPEAKERlike your debounce setting is bad,

1:10:35SPEAKERyou need to dial it back.

1:10:37SPEAKER- In fact, this is a Keychron and they put out a firmware

1:10:40SPEAKERsome months or a year ago

1:10:41SPEAKERthat did adjust the debounce algorithm.

1:10:43SPEAKERAnd in fact, you can change the debounce yourself,

1:10:45SPEAKERbut I've just, I've never tweaked it further

1:10:47SPEAKERbecause I assume the risk on the other side of that

1:10:49SPEAKERis if you get too aggressive with it,

1:10:51SPEAKERthen you start kind of like missing quick inputs, right?

1:10:54SPEAKER- Yeah, but you have to, they have to be real quick.

1:10:56SPEAKERThere's a pretty wide gulf between debounce isn't effective

1:10:59SPEAKERand you're missing inputs.

1:11:01SPEAKER- Okay, maybe I should just further up that number

1:11:04SPEAKERa little bit then from the sound of it,

1:11:06SPEAKERor maybe what's the answer to that question though?

1:11:09SPEAKERLike would you expect switches to wear out

1:11:11SPEAKERor should they pretty much last?

1:11:13SPEAKER- So I don't think they wear out.

1:11:15SPEAKERI think the problem is often they're defective

1:11:16SPEAKER'cause when you're buying bulk switches,

1:11:18SPEAKERthey're generally not super tested.

1:11:20SPEAKERSo that's why like you buy,

1:11:23SPEAKERif you're buying switches for an 80 key keyboard,

1:11:25SPEAKERthey give you 88 keys in the bag.

1:11:27SPEAKERIt's 'cause there's a certain amount

1:11:28SPEAKERthat you expect to be bad

1:11:31SPEAKERor for you to mess up during the install or whatever.

1:11:33SPEAKER- Yeah, I wonder in my case though,

1:11:35SPEAKERit really comes and goes per key.

1:11:37SPEAKER- That to me sounds like it sounds like debounce.

1:11:39SPEAKER- Okay, maybe I'll just tweak that.

1:11:41SPEAKERLike I said, I was just afraid to push it too high

1:11:43SPEAKER'cause I thought I could end up

1:11:44SPEAKERgetting counterproductive with it.

1:11:46SPEAKER- I mean, I think if you start seeing,

1:11:48SPEAKERyou type faster than I do.

1:11:50SPEAKERSo like, I don't know how lightly you're grazing switches.

1:11:54SPEAKER- Not very.

1:11:55SPEAKER- It's like I would experiment with that setting,

1:11:58SPEAKERbut it's also really easy to swap switches out these days.

1:12:01SPEAKERSo I would, if you have one that's consistently sticking

1:12:04SPEAKERor failing or like that you have to hit a couple of times

1:12:06SPEAKERto get to go, then that's probably the time

1:12:07SPEAKERto swap that one.

1:12:08SPEAKER- No, that's the thing.

1:12:09SPEAKERIt's super random and it happens to be--

1:12:11SPEAKER- It's extra hits almost exclusively.

1:12:13SPEAKER- Yeah, it's always like a double input.

1:12:15SPEAKER- Yeah, so like on my old Logitech mice,

1:12:18SPEAKERthe ones that I had to replace the switches on,

1:12:20SPEAKERthat's what I was getting.

1:12:21SPEAKERIt's just sometimes it would be a double hit,

1:12:23SPEAKERalmost always a double click rather than a single click.

1:12:26SPEAKERAnd that was a failing switch.

1:12:28SPEAKERThose were those Omron crappy switches

1:12:30SPEAKERthey used to put in those things.

1:12:32SPEAKER- Okay, all right, let's do one last quick round of...

1:12:36SPEAKERWell, hopefully these will be quick, we'll see.

1:12:39SPEAKERActually, I don't know, this is a big question.

1:12:40SPEAKERIt's from Warbird.

1:12:41SPEAKER- Oh boy.

1:12:42SPEAKER- This is a very Warbird question.

1:12:43SPEAKER- Yeah, we all hate Lane Kiffin Warbirds.

1:12:46SPEAKER- Is AI and vibe coding just the eternal September

1:12:49SPEAKERat a societal scale?

1:12:51SPEAKER- It sure seems that way.

1:12:56SPEAKERAs previously discussed,

1:12:58SPEAKERI think you were there for the eternal September.

1:13:00SPEAKER- I was a member.

1:13:01SPEAKERI'm a member of the eternal September.

1:13:02SPEAKER- In fact, I believe you were one of the perpetrators.

1:13:04SPEAKER- I'm part of the problem.

1:13:06SPEAKERI was the one who came into all binaries, Barney,

1:13:09SPEAKERdie, die, die and ruined the internet the first time.

1:13:15SPEAKERYes, no, maybe, I don't know.

1:13:17SPEAKER- Yeah, it's tough to say.

1:13:19SPEAKERThis is maybe, I feel like we need to revisit this question

1:13:22SPEAKERin like five years.

1:13:23SPEAKER- I feel like there's a really powerful thing

1:13:28SPEAKERto letting people who don't think that they can make software

1:13:33SPEAKERmake software that's useful for them, right?

1:13:35SPEAKER- Yes.

1:13:36SPEAKER- There's a really nice virtuous loop that happens

1:13:38SPEAKERwhen somebody learns to make something

1:13:40SPEAKERand even if they're not doing it the right way,

1:13:42SPEAKERthey've made something that they find useful

1:13:43SPEAKERand then that's gonna make them start looking at

1:13:46SPEAKERthe way they use their tools differently.

1:13:48SPEAKER- For personal use, I totally agree.

1:13:49SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:13:50SPEAKER- I think when you start getting out into communities

1:13:53SPEAKERand flooding the zone with bullshit, as it were.

1:13:56SPEAKER- Yeah, and then I also start seeing people talking

1:13:59SPEAKERabout their CEO doing commits that break entire pipelines

1:14:02SPEAKERand stuff like that and that's a bad, that feels bad.

1:14:05SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

1:14:05SPEAKER- So maybe eternal September, some of it was good

1:14:10SPEAKERand some of it was bad and yeah,

1:14:12SPEAKERmaybe this is the same situation.

1:14:14SPEAKERI don't know.

1:14:15SPEAKEREternal September wasn't built on enormous scale theft

1:14:17SPEAKERand a potential global economic collapse, so who knows.

1:14:24SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, perhaps too early to say.

1:14:26SPEAKERThe effect on different fan communities,

1:14:28SPEAKERlike passionate communities of people making things

1:14:31SPEAKERhas been profoundly negative.

1:14:33SPEAKERLike I don't wanna spend too much time on it right now,

1:14:35SPEAKERbut I don't know if you saw the decomp.dev

1:14:36SPEAKERjust straight up shut down this week

1:14:38SPEAKERbecause they cited so much bad behavior

1:14:41SPEAKERon the part of people driving by with AI

1:14:43SPEAKERand fucking things up.

1:14:44SPEAKER- But at the same time, like if the out,

1:14:46SPEAKERif the five-year outcome of this

1:14:48SPEAKERis that everything is essentially open source at that point,

1:14:52SPEAKERthen if the ability to decomp closed source software

1:14:57SPEAKERmeans that everybody's treating their software

1:14:59SPEAKERlike it's open source, that's probably a net good.

1:15:02SPEAKERSo I don't know, the answer is it's complicated, I think.

1:15:06SPEAKER- One other quick thing, I've been staring at this tweet

1:15:08SPEAKERfor the last 24 hours thinking about it.

1:15:11SPEAKERI floated this idea on Nextlander,

1:15:12SPEAKERI think last week when we talked about,

1:15:15SPEAKERI think it was when we talked about the decomp.dev thing,

1:15:17SPEAKERbut Fur Tech, who is one of the kind of more bad-ass,

1:15:22SPEAKERlow level mister developer types,

1:15:24SPEAKERlike one of the people who's out there

1:15:25SPEAKERlike decapping the chips on arcade boards

1:15:28SPEAKERto try to document how they work and stuff like that.

1:15:31SPEAKERLike some of their work has been pretty instrumental

1:15:34SPEAKERin getting stuff like Ninja Turtles working,

1:15:36SPEAKERsome important mister stuff.

1:15:38SPEAKERLike that's one of the many scenes

1:15:40SPEAKERwhere this is a like the topic.

1:15:42SPEAKERIt's like all anybody's talking about

1:15:43SPEAKER'cause every scene like that is just getting flooded

1:15:45SPEAKERwith vibe coded nonsense right now.

1:15:48SPEAKERThe Fur Tech tweet says, "Maybe one good thing

1:15:51SPEAKER"with the flood of FPGA slop cores

1:15:53SPEAKER"reaching a critical point, poser douches."

1:15:56SPEAKERJust hit their language.

1:15:58SPEAKER"Poser douches are losing interest

1:16:00SPEAKER"since they no longer feel competitive,"

1:16:02SPEAKERwhich is their only interest,

1:16:03SPEAKER"and they are fucking off from the hobby."

1:16:05SPEAKERSo like I kind of said something similar on Nextlander,

1:16:08SPEAKERwhich is that it seems like the types of people

1:16:10SPEAKERwho are just showing up and want to like

1:16:12SPEAKERclaim internet glory by like shitting out some thing

1:16:15SPEAKERfaster than anybody else.

1:16:16SPEAKERLike eventually they're gonna get bored of that

1:16:18SPEAKERor in this case, like they're saying here,

1:16:20SPEAKERlike everybody else is gonna be doing the same thing

1:16:23SPEAKERto the point that it's not sexy anymore.

1:16:24SPEAKERAnd that like my hope is that the people

1:16:27SPEAKERwho don't actually care about the work

1:16:29SPEAKERand the output that much

1:16:31SPEAKERare just gonna kind of drift away over time

1:16:33SPEAKERand everything will kind of self-correct, but who knows?

1:16:36SPEAKER- That reads to me.

1:16:38SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

1:16:38SPEAKER- Like I hope that that's the case.

1:16:41SPEAKER- Yeah, me too.

1:16:43SPEAKEROkay, let's wrap up

1:16:45SPEAKERwith a pair of animatronic cake batter questions.

1:16:48SPEAKER- Okay, happy Halloween.

1:16:51SPEAKER- It says spooky in parentheses.

1:16:52SPEAKERThe full name is animatronic cake batter

1:16:55SPEAKERin parentheses spooky.

1:16:56SPEAKER- Pretty good.

1:16:57SPEAKER- Should a clubhouse sandwich have chicken breast

1:16:59SPEAKERor sliced turkey?

1:17:01SPEAKER- Wait, what's a clubhouse sandwich?

1:17:02SPEAKERIs this a club sandwich?

1:17:03SPEAKER- That was my exact response to this.

1:17:04SPEAKERIt's gotta be a Canadian thing, right?

1:17:06SPEAKER'Cause I also immediately in my head said,

1:17:08SPEAKER"Is that just a club sandwich?"

1:17:09SPEAKER- I saw this and I intentionally didn't Google it

1:17:11SPEAKERuntil now, so I'm gonna look.

1:17:13SPEAKERThis is probably some Canadian thing

1:17:14SPEAKERwe've never heard of before, Brad.

1:17:16SPEAKER- If it is a, okay, I Googled clubhouse sandwich

1:17:18SPEAKERand the club sandwich Wikipedia page is the first match, so.

1:17:22SPEAKER- Yes.

1:17:23SPEAKER- If it is in fact club sandwich turkey all the way,

1:17:25SPEAKERI didn't even know you could put chicken.

1:17:26SPEAKERThat's something else entirely, isn't it?

1:17:29SPEAKER- I like a sliced chicken.

1:17:30SPEAKER- Sliced turkey is the canonical club sandwich meat.

1:17:33SPEAKER- Look, I'm not one to not swap turkey for chicken.

1:17:37SPEAKERLike I'll take a roast chicken sliced.

1:17:39SPEAKERI'm a big fan of that.

1:17:40SPEAKER- Oh yeah, that's yeah, nothing wrong with it.

1:17:42SPEAKERBut I'm not sure it's a club sandwich at that point.

1:17:44SPEAKER- Wow, so judgy.

1:17:46SPEAKERLook, from where I sit, the bigger question here

1:17:49SPEAKERis about the clubhouse situation

1:17:50SPEAKER'cause that seems unnatural to me.

1:17:53SPEAKER- Okay, here is the way more tech pod of the two questions.

1:17:57SPEAKER- Okay.

1:17:58SPEAKER- I am fascinated by this question.

1:18:00SPEAKER'Cause knowing cake batter,

1:18:02SPEAKERhe's definitely serious about this.

1:18:05SPEAKERIs launching my own CubeSat for bragging rights

1:18:08SPEAKERa worthwhile use of $20,000?

1:18:10SPEAKER- What would you use the satellite for?

1:18:12SPEAKER- Well, in his case, he does all kinds of weird

1:18:14SPEAKERlike GPS timekeeping stuff and weather,

1:18:18SPEAKERweather data aggregation and stuff like that.

1:18:20SPEAKERSo I wouldn't, well, the question says for bragging rights,

1:18:23SPEAKERbut I would assume there's probably

1:18:25SPEAKERsome actual use case here.

1:18:28SPEAKERThis is somebody who has trash can,

1:18:29SPEAKERliteral metal trash cans configured

1:18:32SPEAKERas like weather data collectors.

1:18:34SPEAKER- I don't know, with radios in them.

1:18:35SPEAKER- So I think there is some kind of like public data gathering

1:18:38SPEAKERfascination here.

1:18:39SPEAKER- Look, can I interest you in a sponsorship

1:18:41SPEAKERfor a podcast for $20,000?

1:18:43SPEAKERWe can do a lot with that.

1:18:46SPEAKERLook, if you have something cool to do with a CubeSat,

1:18:48SPEAKERI say go for it.

1:18:49SPEAKER- I had to look up what a CubeSat is

1:18:51SPEAKERand didn't realize that there are very,

1:18:53SPEAKERwell, I mean, I could gather from the name

1:18:55SPEAKERroughly what it is.

1:18:56SPEAKERWhat I mean is I didn't realize

1:18:57SPEAKERit's like very strictly standardized,

1:18:59SPEAKERlike the dimensions and weight and everything.

1:19:01SPEAKER- Oh yeah.

1:19:02SPEAKER- It is like, let me make sure I've got the numbers here.

1:19:04SPEAKERIt is a form factor of 10 centimeters,

1:19:08SPEAKER10 cubic centimeters, mass of no more than two kilograms,

1:19:13SPEAKERoften use commercial off the shelf components.

1:19:15SPEAKERAnd anyway, I mean, whatever I should,

1:19:18SPEAKERof course I should know that any kind of like

1:19:19SPEAKERlaunch capacity situation,

1:19:21SPEAKEReverything is gonna be very strictly regulated

1:19:23SPEAKER'cause of the cost per pound

1:19:25SPEAKERto launch things into orbit is very high.

1:19:27SPEAKER- Do you know how they launch them, Brad?

1:19:28SPEAKER- No.

1:19:29SPEAKER- So there's a hole on the space station.

1:19:32SPEAKERYou can jam them into it.

1:19:32SPEAKERIt just fires them out into space.

1:19:35SPEAKER- Wow.

1:19:35SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:19:36SPEAKERThey also like go up and they'll use excess weight

1:19:40SPEAKERon launches that have like a big shroud around the payload.

1:19:44SPEAKERAnd there'll be a rack of like CubeSat launchers

1:19:47SPEAKERunderneath or beside,

1:19:49SPEAKERor it goes out with like the second stage

1:19:50SPEAKERor something like that.

1:19:52SPEAKERAnd they'll fire them out when you're doing that.

1:19:55SPEAKER- I would assume there were some

1:19:57SPEAKERNewtonian considerations, right?

1:19:58SPEAKERThey're not just chucking them out the window, right?

1:20:00SPEAKER'Cause I mean, you'd have to worry about speed

1:20:02SPEAKERto make sure the orbit is steady.

1:20:04SPEAKER- They can control the speed.

1:20:05SPEAKERIt's not like they have a slingshot.

1:20:07SPEAKER- I'm mostly joking.

1:20:08SPEAKERYou kind of made it sound like they just flush them

1:20:10SPEAKERdown the toilet of the ISS.

1:20:12SPEAKER- Yeah, pretty much.

1:20:13SPEAKER- And they just drift out there.

1:20:14SPEAKERBut I assume-

1:20:14SPEAKER- Go out the cube hole, baby.

1:20:16SPEAKER- I assume the orbital stability

1:20:20SPEAKERis being taken into consideration.

1:20:22SPEAKER- Well, so they don't last very long is the thing.

1:20:24SPEAKERSo we interviewed some folks who make them,

1:20:26SPEAKERwho made some of the early ones,

1:20:27SPEAKERlike 15 years ago it tested

1:20:29SPEAKER'cause they were at Maker Faire

1:20:30SPEAKERand some DARPA stuff that we used to go to.

1:20:33SPEAKERAnd part of it is the kind of processors

1:20:36SPEAKERthat they use are off the shelf.

1:20:37SPEAKERThey're not really radiation hardened.

1:20:39SPEAKERSo they have a relatively limited shelf life.

1:20:41SPEAKER- Oh, I didn't even think about that, of course.

1:20:43SPEAKER- And then the other thing is that they use

1:20:44SPEAKERoff the shelf solar panels generally.

1:20:45SPEAKERSo again, those get torched pretty fast

1:20:48SPEAKERin the hot and cold of space.

1:20:50SPEAKER- Sure.

1:20:51SPEAKER- But yeah, the idea is that you,

1:20:52SPEAKERfor a relatively low amount of money,

1:20:54SPEAKERlike a college class can launch a satellite

1:20:56SPEAKERand collect some data and do some science,

1:21:00SPEAKERwhich is really cool.

1:21:01SPEAKER- I say, go for it.

1:21:02SPEAKERIf you have the means, go for it.

1:21:04SPEAKER- What I want to know from the community

1:21:05SPEAKERis what they should use,

1:21:06SPEAKERwhat cake batters should use the satellite for,

1:21:09SPEAKERbeyond bragging rights.

1:21:11SPEAKER- Yeah, probably there's a whole world of possibilities.

1:21:13SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:21:14SPEAKER- Orbital plex server.

1:21:15SPEAKER- I mean, look, we've talked about the thermodynamics

1:21:18SPEAKERof computers in space.

1:21:19SPEAKERIt's not gonna fit in a cube.

1:21:21SPEAKER- Not for long.

1:21:22SPEAKER- But yeah, this is as good a place as any

1:21:24SPEAKERto wrap it up for this episode.

1:21:26SPEAKERThanks everybody for listening and submitting questions.

1:21:27SPEAKERWe had a huge crop of them this month.

1:21:29SPEAKERSo thanks everybody for sending your stuff in.

1:21:31SPEAKERAgain, the email address is techpod@content.town.

1:21:34SPEAKEROr if you're in the Discord,

1:21:36SPEAKERyou can go to the Question Seeking Answers channel

1:21:38SPEAKERand post your question there.

1:21:40SPEAKERAgain, don't post anything secret

1:21:41SPEAKER'cause other people might see it

1:21:42SPEAKERif they happen to be in the channel at the same time.

1:21:44SPEAKERAnd we will definitely see it in the future.

1:21:46SPEAKER- Yes, don't post your unencrypted environment variables

1:21:48SPEAKERin that channel 'cause somebody might see them.

1:21:51SPEAKERAnd then you're gonna have to rotate all of your API keys.

1:21:53SPEAKER- If you have a top level cert,

1:21:55SPEAKERdon't post the password even if it's just four.

1:21:58SPEAKER- Dude, I cannot believe that shit.

1:22:00SPEAKERI don't want to cannibalize next week's material.

1:22:03SPEAKERBut my favorite theory,

1:22:05SPEAKER'cause I assume you looked at all the keys.

1:22:07SPEAKER- Yeah, they're all bad. - All eight of them.

1:22:09SPEAKERIt's not just that they're all bad.

1:22:11SPEAKERMy favorite theory, I don't know if this is legit.

1:22:13SPEAKERI have no idea what happened there.

1:22:15SPEAKERBut my favorite theory is that somebody

1:22:17SPEAKERon the creating end of that whole situation

1:22:19SPEAKERlooked at 384-bit key.

1:22:22SPEAKER- Oh my God, you're not.

1:22:23SPEAKER- And took that to mean that they should pick numbers

1:22:25SPEAKERbetween zero and 384, because all of them are.

1:22:29SPEAKERAll of them are numbers between zero and 384.

1:22:33SPEAKER- My assumption was that somebody made

1:22:35SPEAKERa bunch of practice certificates, like test certificates,

1:22:38SPEAKERand then they shipped those by accident in production,

1:22:41SPEAKERbut damn.

1:22:42SPEAKER- But again, the contents of the keys are one to four,

1:22:45SPEAKERsorry, one to three digits.

1:22:46SPEAKERAnd a proper key of that size is like a pretty-

1:22:49SPEAKER- 150 or something, right?

1:22:50SPEAKER- Pretty lengthy alphanumeric string.

1:22:53SPEAKER- Mother of God.

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