00:00SPEAKER- Okay, Brad, I'm breaking precedent.
00:02SPEAKER- Oh, that's what we do here, right?
00:05SPEAKER- Care Bear, look, no laws will contain me,
00:08SPEAKERis what I'm saying.
00:09SPEAKERBut Care Bear suggested we should read the entirety
00:12SPEAKERof this Arizona state law as a cold open.
00:15SPEAKERIt is House Bill 2477, an act amending title 41,
00:20SPEAKERchapter 4.1, article five, Arizona revised statutes
00:24SPEAKERby adding section 41-860.08 relating to state emblems
00:30SPEAKERtexted bill begins on next page.
00:32SPEAKERBe it enacted by the legislature of the state of Arizona,
00:35SPEAKERsection one, title 41, chapter 4.1, article five,
00:38SPEAKERArizona revived statutes is amended by adding section 41-860.08
00:44SPEAKERto read Pluto is the official state planet.
00:48SPEAKER- What? - Period.
00:49SPEAKER- Oh man.
00:50SPEAKER- I think, what's his name?
00:51SPEAKERDiscovered Pluto at Lovell Observatory in Arizona, right?
00:55SPEAKER- Okay, it's one of those state pride things then.
00:58SPEAKERTake my Pluto as a planet from my cold dead hands.
01:01SPEAKER- I guess they don't call it a,
01:02SPEAKERthey could have made it the official dwarf planet
01:04SPEAKERof Arizona. - That's true, that's true.
01:06SPEAKERLike first in dwarf, but you know, like Pluto is what,
01:08SPEAKERninth in planets, but first in dwarf planets.
01:10SPEAKER- Yeah, lord of all dwarf planets.
01:12SPEAKER- Although actually I think one of the many arguments
01:15SPEAKERagainst Pluto's planet hood is that it's not even
01:17SPEAKERthe biggest dwarf planet in the solar system.
01:20SPEAKER- Oh right, 'cause one of the ones in the asteroid belt
01:24SPEAKERis bigger, right?
01:25SPEAKER- Like Eris, is Eris one of them?
01:28SPEAKER- Yes, Eris is the most massive and second largest
01:31SPEAKERknown dwarf planet in the solar system.
01:33SPEAKERI think Ceres in the asteroid belt is also bigger
01:36SPEAKERthan Pluto, I could be wrong about that.
01:39SPEAKER- So.
01:40SPEAKER- Pluto is just kind of mid a lot of ways, frankly.
01:44SPEAKER- Wow, I'm not gonna stand for this Pluto slander.
01:47SPEAKER- What is going on in Arizona?
01:48SPEAKERLike they don't observe daylight savings time,
01:50SPEAKERthey don't observe astrophysical taxonomy
01:54SPEAKERthat is widely agreed upon.
01:55SPEAKER- I think their daylight savings time is a latitude thing
01:59SPEAKERfor them.
02:00SPEAKER- Wait, really?
02:01SPEAKER- Yeah, 'cause--
02:02SPEAKER- Oh, I thought it was just some defiance,
02:03SPEAKERlike some you can't tell us how to tell time thing.
02:05SPEAKERI didn't realize there was like a physical reason.
02:08SPEAKER- I mean, it could be that, but I think it's because
02:10SPEAKERthey're on the west side of the mountain time,
02:13SPEAKERthe summer mornings would start at like four o'clock
02:16SPEAKERin the morning or something there is the argument against it?
02:19SPEAKER- I mean, that is one of the broad arguments
02:21SPEAKERagainst daylight savings is people on the wrong end
02:23SPEAKERof each time zone get screwed badly.
02:26SPEAKER- Look, man, we've done this episode before.
02:27SPEAKERThe point is the time zones need to be diagonal
02:30SPEAKERinstead of latitude lined with lines of longitude, right?
02:33SPEAKER- No, there's a lot of things that were decided
02:35SPEAKERon a long time ago poorly that should probably be different.
02:38SPEAKER- Well, look, we're not gonna fix time zones,
02:41SPEAKERwe're not gonna fix dwarf planets probably.
02:45SPEAKERI don't know, man, I support Arizona.
02:47SPEAKERLook, if they wanna respect the work of Clyde W. Tombaugh,
02:51SPEAKERI salute them.
02:53SPEAKER- Where do you fall on the,
02:54SPEAKERI mean, it's not really a debate anymore.
02:57SPEAKERLike I think this was pretty definitively decided
02:59SPEAKERsome years ago, but.
03:00SPEAKER- Look, we got a children's book about what happened
03:03SPEAKERto Pluto is all I'm saying.
03:04SPEAKER- Wait, really?
03:05SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm a Pluto truther.
03:07SPEAKER- What is the tone of that book?
03:08SPEAKER- The tone of the book is, yo, sometimes things change
03:13SPEAKERand that's okay.
03:14SPEAKER- Okay, but you know, that's probably a good lesson
03:16SPEAKERto impart in a lot of different contexts.
03:18SPEAKER- The subtext of that book though,
03:19SPEAKERis that Pluto totally got raked over.
03:22SPEAKERIt's just a little guy, you know?
03:25SPEAKER(upbeat music)
03:53SPEAKER- Welcome to "Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod."
03:55SPEAKERI'm Will.
03:56SPEAKER- I'm Brad, hello.
03:57SPEAKER- Ahoy, ahoy.
04:00SPEAKERIt is once again, the end of the month.
04:03SPEAKER- True, almost the end of the month.
04:04SPEAKER- And you know what that means?
04:05SPEAKER- Much like ends of time zones don't necessarily line up
04:08SPEAKERexactly with the sunrise and sunset.
04:11SPEAKER- Yeah.
04:12SPEAKER- The last Sunday of the month does not always quite line up
04:14SPEAKERwith the end of the month, but close enough.
04:16SPEAKER- It can be as early as the 26th.
04:18SPEAKERThis is the second earliest Sunday
04:21SPEAKERthat we'll see, second earliest last Sunday
04:24SPEAKERwe'll see this year.
04:25SPEAKER- Did you look up stats on that?
04:27SPEAKER- Well, no, I'm just looking at the dates
04:28SPEAKERand looking at the calendar and like the next,
04:31SPEAKERlike this is the 26th, the Sunday is the first,
04:34SPEAKERthe Saturday is the first.
04:35SPEAKERSo we could have a 25th just theoretically.
04:38SPEAKER- Well, something to look forward to, you know, fun fact.
04:41SPEAKER- Yeah.
04:41SPEAKER- Having the power to fully customize the logic
04:44SPEAKERfor like selecting dates and like first days of months
04:48SPEAKERis one of the many things that drove me away
04:50SPEAKERfrom TrueNAS to just start using Linux on my NAS slash server.
04:55SPEAKER- It turns out like, what are you a Monday
04:58SPEAKERfirst day of the month guy?
04:59SPEAKER- Well, I never like landed on anything specific,
05:02SPEAKERbut like TrueNAS lacks the ability to say like,
05:04SPEAKERhey, I want to schedule this task to run on the first Sunday
05:08SPEAKERof every third month type stuff.
05:10SPEAKER- Oh.
05:11SPEAKER- It has like pretty limited logic for, you know.
05:14SPEAKER- It doesn't have a fully developed crontab.
05:16SPEAKER- More or less, yes.
05:17SPEAKERLike the web UI thing for selecting dates and days
05:21SPEAKERand stuff like that is pretty limited.
05:22SPEAKERAnd I was like, I want to be able to set my tasks
05:24SPEAKERa little more granularly.
05:26SPEAKER- I often think that.
05:26SPEAKER- For backups and scrubs and so forth.
05:30SPEAKER- Yeah, ain't no scrubs, that's what I say.
05:32SPEAKER- That's right.
05:33SPEAKERWhat if I just ran an OS that let me do whatever I wanted
05:35SPEAKERwith the computer?
05:37SPEAKER- Look, I've, look, I've tasted that forbidden fruit now.
05:41SPEAKERI've tasted it on multiple fronts
05:43SPEAKERand I'm gonna go and tell you, it good.
05:45SPEAKERIt good to be able to do whatever you want
05:46SPEAKERwith your computer. - That's right, that's right.
05:48SPEAKER- Corey Doctorow was right, man.
05:50SPEAKER- So it was Kyle Wiens, being able to use the hardware
05:53SPEAKERthat you bought in whatever way you want
05:55SPEAKERis pretty liberating.
05:56SPEAKER- Yeah, do what you want, man, that's what I say.
05:59SPEAKERYou know what I want to do is I want to answer questions.
06:01SPEAKERI want to turn Qs into As, I want to answer questions.
06:03SPEAKERI want to answer emails or electronic mails,
06:07SPEAKERsome people call them.
06:08SPEAKER- We have both here in quantity.
06:10SPEAKER- Yeah, it was a banner crop this month.
06:12SPEAKERI had to be extra selective as I was going through
06:15SPEAKER'cause it was like, we have too many,
06:17SPEAKERwe have too many good emails to answer.
06:19SPEAKER- Discord has, mm.
06:20SPEAKER- Oh no.
06:21SPEAKER- Okay, Discord has changed and added a lot of things lately,
06:24SPEAKERlet's say, but one of those is that copying and pasting
06:28SPEAKERout of the questions channel has gotten worse.
06:30SPEAKERThere's now like 10 lines of like,
06:32SPEAKERI forget what they are exactly, what the terminology is,
06:35SPEAKERbut it's effectively like like and subscribe prompts
06:37SPEAKERthat'll come out for every comment
06:39SPEAKERwhen you copy and paste out of Discord.
06:41SPEAKER- Oh.
06:42SPEAKER- I really wish Discord had like an export channel option.
06:45SPEAKERLike I wish you could just like export like,
06:46SPEAKERhey, just like give me a nice like HTML formatted document
06:50SPEAKERthat is like this range of comments
06:52SPEAKERfrom this Discord channel.
06:53SPEAKER- So I have the same, I had the same thought with Fastmail
06:56SPEAKER'cause like I curate the Fastmail tech pod public facing one
07:00SPEAKER'cause it's like 90%.
07:03SPEAKERHey, I just wanted to see if you're interested
07:04SPEAKERin talking to AI expert, Steve Chadsworth,
07:09SPEAKERa Silicon Valley based venture CEO
07:13SPEAKERwhose AI dog food company is making dog food with AI,
07:18SPEAKERwith the power of AI inside it.
07:20SPEAKERAnd I think he'd be a great,
07:22SPEAKERI know you guys love talking about old hardware
07:23SPEAKERand things like Linux.
07:25SPEAKERSo I thought you'd probably be interested in talking
07:28SPEAKERto Steve about dog food and AI.
07:31SPEAKERSo I delete all those just as they come in.
07:33SPEAKER- Steve Chadsworth of the Silicon Valley Chadsworth.
07:36SPEAKER- Yeah, exactly.
07:37SPEAKERSteve, fire Steve Chadsworth into the sun
07:39SPEAKERas far as I'm concerned.
07:41SPEAKERBut anyway, like I have, but the end result
07:44SPEAKERis I have a nicely curated list of like 20 emails,
07:46SPEAKER30 emails at the end of the month
07:48SPEAKERthat are basically ready to go.
07:49SPEAKERAnd then I have to, like I have to do the indignity
07:52SPEAKERof using the VI hotkeys to switch between them
07:55SPEAKERand select all and copy and paste.
07:57SPEAKER- Don't even get me started.
07:58SPEAKERI've got, listen, first of all,
07:59SPEAKERI am compiling a list of Dual Boot Diaries topics to revisit
08:03SPEAKERas I hear you guys talk about them.
08:04SPEAKERBut like probably the top of the list is my screed
08:07SPEAKERabout, hey, learning VI keys enables you to do
08:11SPEAKERabout 800 other things in Linux,
08:13SPEAKERmuch easier than you currently are doing them.
08:15SPEAKER- I know we talked about having you on as early
08:17SPEAKERas next week, but I think we have to push that back
08:19SPEAKERa little bit.
08:19SPEAKERIt's gonna probably be-
08:21SPEAKER- You're only cheating yourself.
08:23SPEAKER- October, maybe, we'll see.
08:25SPEAKERWe'll see if we can squeeze you in sometime.
08:26SPEAKERIt's a really busy schedule.
08:27SPEAKER- Remember when you were talking about how hard it is
08:29SPEAKERto scroll back in Alacrity or in the crappy other terminal
08:32SPEAKERto find things? - Yes.
08:33SPEAKER- What if you were piping that output into LESS
08:35SPEAKERand then using VIM style keys to just search that output?
08:39SPEAKER- I'm more of a more guy, if I'm being honest.
08:41SPEAKER- All right, that works too.
08:43SPEAKER- But you know what I am not is about putting off
08:45SPEAKERanswering questions.
08:46SPEAKERI think we should just get into it.
08:48SPEAKERIf you have an email or a question,
08:51SPEAKERyou can send emails to techbot@content.town,
08:53SPEAKERor if you're in the Discord, if you're a patron,
08:55SPEAKERwhich we appreciate you, you can go to,
08:58SPEAKERwell, you can go to patreon.com/techbot
09:00SPEAKERto sign up for the Patreon, which we love.
09:03SPEAKERAnd then once you're in the Discord there,
09:04SPEAKERyou can go into the Question Seeking Answers channel
09:07SPEAKERwhere you can just send questions into the void.
09:09SPEAKERPeople do it all day, every day.
09:11SPEAKERJust anytime you have a thought,
09:13SPEAKERlike is Starburst supposed to be Taffy?
09:15SPEAKERThat's a good one to fire in there.
09:16SPEAKERPut that in there, we'll answer that.
09:17SPEAKERThanks, Wild Ralph, for that one.
09:18SPEAKERYes, it is Taffy.
09:19SPEAKERThat's the end of the question.
09:20SPEAKER- Is it a tech-related question?
09:22SPEAKERMaybe, maybe not, but we'll probably answer it anyway.
09:25SPEAKER- Yeah, sure.
09:27SPEAKERYou got one queued up?
09:28SPEAKERHow do you feel about the Starburst Taffy thing
09:30SPEAKERbefore we get further in here?
09:32SPEAKER- I think if Starburst is a little too brick-like
09:35SPEAKERand a little too hard to be, isn't Taffy supposed to be
09:37SPEAKERlike a little stretchy and soft out of the box?
09:39SPEAKER- Do you know how they make Taffy?
09:41SPEAKER- I don't.
09:42SPEAKER- So they take warm, warm sugar candy,
09:45SPEAKERand then they put it on these two things that turn.
09:48SPEAKERIt's like interlocking.
09:50SPEAKERThere's like two things on spinning motors with posts,
09:53SPEAKERand they spin it back and forth.
09:54SPEAKERLooks like a yarn spinner almost.
09:57SPEAKERAnd it stretches it out and aerates it.
09:59SPEAKERAnd I think, I think that they don't put enough,
10:04SPEAKERI don't think they aerate it enough.
10:05SPEAKERI think they should Taffy-ize it more.
10:07SPEAKER- The Starburst you mean?
10:08SPEAKER- Yeah, the Starburst,
10:09SPEAKERbefore they make it into the little squares.
10:12SPEAKER- Starburst, you have to like warm up a little bit.
10:14SPEAKERLike it's just, Starburst will like pull your fillings out.
10:17SPEAKERIt's a little too hard and chewy, I think,
10:19SPEAKERto maybe be Taffy to me, but I don't know.
10:22SPEAKER- I got a hot tip from one of my daughter's friends
10:24SPEAKERthe other day that they like to keep the Starburst
10:27SPEAKERin their front pocket so it gets warm and then eat it.
10:29SPEAKER- Okay.
10:30SPEAKER- And I was like, that is some next level.
10:31SPEAKERThe kids are all right.
10:32SPEAKERThey know what's going on.
10:33SPEAKER- That works, that's physics.
10:35SPEAKER- Yeah.
10:36SPEAKER- All right, speaking of physics, this is not about physics.
10:38SPEAKER- Nailed it.
10:39SPEAKER- I don't have a good answer for this,
10:41SPEAKERbut it's a little chilling
10:43SPEAKERand maybe somebody does listening to this.
10:45SPEAKEREarl from Alaska, I have a ResMed BiPAP.
10:49SPEAKERFirst of all, I looked up what a BiPAP was
10:51SPEAKER'cause I have wondered for a long time.
10:53SPEAKERThe difference is that a CPAP is just constant pressure,
10:56SPEAKERconstant airflow, BiPAP has at least two,
11:00SPEAKERmaybe some have more, but BiPAP has variable.
11:02SPEAKER- Both sucks and blows, right?
11:03SPEAKER- Pressure in and out kind of, but the same general concept.
11:08SPEAKER- For like sleep apnea and stuff like that, right.
11:11SPEAKER- I have a ResMed BiPAP.
11:12SPEAKERI have never given it internet access
11:14SPEAKERnor have I signed up for any plan
11:16SPEAKERor in any way connected it to the internet of things.
11:19SPEAKERI currently have owned it for over seven years,
11:21SPEAKERused it in different countries
11:22SPEAKERand currently live half of the United States
11:24SPEAKERaway from where it was originally purchased.
11:27SPEAKEROkay, here's the kicker.
11:28SPEAKERIf I log into the website provided on a sticker on the side,
11:31SPEAKERthere is a record of every single night of sleep
11:33SPEAKERI've ever had and a rating.
11:35SPEAKER- The machine judges.
11:37SPEAKER- I went to a new sleep doctor
11:38SPEAKERand they were able to pull the exact same information.
11:42SPEAKERHow is this possible?
11:44SPEAKERI'm not on your Patreon,
11:45SPEAKERso I'm not able to ask on your Discord
11:48SPEAKERwhere I'm sure this would be answered in five minutes,
11:51SPEAKERbut I thought it was interesting enough to ask
11:53SPEAKERbecause this is something that's very strange
11:54SPEAKERand I'm genuinely curious
11:55SPEAKERhow many other devices do something like this?
11:58SPEAKER- So I looked this up.
11:59SPEAKERA lot of medical devices do this
12:01SPEAKERand my initial assumption was correct.
12:04SPEAKERSo it has a SIM card and a cellular modem in it.
12:08SPEAKERAnd it also stores data locally on a SD card as a backup
12:14SPEAKERin case you're someplace like it,
12:15SPEAKER'cause you can put it in an airplane mode.
12:18SPEAKERIt has, this device has an airplane mode.
12:20SPEAKERThere's a FAQ on their FAQ page about this,
12:22SPEAKERbut it was kind of buried.
12:23SPEAKERI had to really look for it.
12:25SPEAKERBut yeah, the idea is that the data is really low bandwidth.
12:29SPEAKERThe company that does this is probably buying
12:31SPEAKERa incredibly low access data plan for all of these devices
12:37SPEAKERthat is like, hey, we're gonna send 200 kilobytes a day
12:41SPEAKERor something like that.
12:42SPEAKER- Yeah, I wonder what cellular standard this is even using.
12:45SPEAKER- Well, I mean, it's all, it's LTE for sure.
12:47SPEAKERSo it's-
12:48SPEAKER- Yeah, I guess that's the slowest or cheapest
12:50SPEAKERthat's still available, right?
12:51SPEAKERLike 3G is not even widespread enough
12:52SPEAKERto rely on at this point, right?
12:54SPEAKER- Yeah, no, and it doesn't work internationally
12:56SPEAKER'cause radio spectrums are different.
12:57SPEAKERBut yeah, so it's like,
13:02SPEAKERthere's a lot of medical devices that do this.
13:03SPEAKERLike some insulin pumps and stuff like that even do that.
13:07SPEAKERSo anyway, that was it.
13:08SPEAKERNo mystery, nothing, no devilish technology.
13:11SPEAKER- Okay, I'm actually relieved to hear
13:14SPEAKERthere is a straightforward explanation for that
13:16SPEAKERand not that it's like somehow worming its way
13:18SPEAKERonto your wifi without your knowledge or something.
13:20SPEAKER- Yeah, no, no.
13:21SPEAKERAnd my, so my initial thought was, hey,
13:24SPEAKERmaybe Earl like paired it with his phone seven years ago
13:28SPEAKERand forgot, which doesn't seem to be the case
13:31SPEAKERor there was a cellular connection.
13:33SPEAKERAnd yeah, it's just a cheap cellular connection.
13:35SPEAKER- Should that be more prominently disclosed?
13:37SPEAKERLike, do you think that is,
13:39SPEAKERand is there an ethical consideration here
13:42SPEAKERthat you should let people know more directly that,
13:44SPEAKERhey, this device you're buying
13:45SPEAKERis going to be sending data through the air?
13:48SPEAKER- I didn't, I didn't look at their privacy policy.
13:50SPEAKERMy guess is that this is because this is medical stuff,
13:52SPEAKERit falls under the medical disclosure rules
13:55SPEAKERand you're only allowed to disclose it with your doctor
13:59SPEAKERand stuff like that.
14:02SPEAKERI'm increasingly hinky about having my data places
14:06SPEAKERthat insurance companies can get to it.
14:10SPEAKERBut in this case, I don't, like this is a,
14:13SPEAKERthis is a question about my pay grade, I don't know.
14:16SPEAKER- Yeah, it feels like this.
14:18SPEAKER- We need a medical ethicist.
14:20SPEAKER- Yeah, also the thing I'm about to bring up
14:22SPEAKERis kind of tangential to this, not exactly the same thing,
14:24SPEAKERbut have you been following the situation
14:26SPEAKERwith the Senate race in Maine?
14:28SPEAKER- Oh yeah, the guy who had the Nazi tattoo?
14:31SPEAKER- Yeah, but before that it was a bunch of Reddit posts
14:34SPEAKERand there's a whole conversation brewing now
14:36SPEAKERabout how did they track down his old accounts?
14:38SPEAKERAnd you can do all kinds of like,
14:40SPEAKERlike anybody remotely skilled at using the internet
14:43SPEAKERcan do a lot of manual sort of social media forensics
14:46SPEAKERto track people's stuff down.
14:48SPEAKER- I mean, look-
14:49SPEAKER- But the reason I bring this up in a world
14:52SPEAKERwhere like Palantir is in becoming
14:54SPEAKERan enormously valued company on the stock market and stuff.
14:58SPEAKERLike people are starting to ask questions about like,
15:00SPEAKERwhat kind of like, what kind of consolidated digital profiles
15:04SPEAKERon every human being on the planet exist out there?
15:06SPEAKERLike people are starting to really want to know like,
15:08SPEAKERwhat data has been collected and aggregated on me
15:12SPEAKERin a way that-
15:14SPEAKER- There's a lot.
15:15SPEAKER- Right, I mean, I guess the thing that's new,
15:17SPEAKERlike the data collection has been going on for as long
15:19SPEAKERas it could be collected, right?
15:21SPEAKERBut I guess the thing that's new is the kind of aggregation
15:25SPEAKERand merging and forming of like a kind of, like I said,
15:29SPEAKERkind of a coherent profile.
15:31SPEAKER- I mean, we've known for two and a half decades
15:34SPEAKERat this point that if you have somebody's age
15:36SPEAKERand their zip code, you can pretty much identify them.
15:38SPEAKER- Yeah.
15:40SPEAKER- The difference now, it's funny,
15:42SPEAKERI'm reading something about this right now
15:44SPEAKERthat I don't think I can talk about,
15:45SPEAKERbut it's, yeah, there's real downsides
15:48SPEAKERto making big, deep profiles across the entire internet.
15:52SPEAKERI think, you know, I think as people become more aware
15:57SPEAKERof this, maybe we'll see some right to be forgotten rules
15:59SPEAKERlike they have in Europe and stuff like that.
16:01SPEAKERBut even then, even though the EU rules are pretty good,
16:04SPEAKERI don't think they go far enough in a lot of cases.
16:07SPEAKERLike there was a thread on Blue Sky this morning
16:09SPEAKERfrom somebody who isn't on Facebook,
16:11SPEAKERdoesn't use meta properties,
16:13SPEAKERand realized that because one of their friends
16:16SPEAKERor loved ones uploaded their contact list to Facebook
16:20SPEAKERwhen they were finding their friends,
16:22SPEAKERthey now are in the, like Facebook now knows who they are
16:27SPEAKERand can tie their dark profile to their phone number
16:31SPEAKERand stuff like that, which is icky.
16:33SPEAKER- It's like fighting entropy.
16:34SPEAKERThere's no winning.
16:35SPEAKER- I mean, look, this is why you moved to a cabin
16:38SPEAKERin the woods and just get off the internet entirely, Brad.
16:40SPEAKER- Yep, except for your ResMed BiPAP.
16:43SPEAKER- The other thing I'm gonna say though,
16:45SPEAKERis if you wanna get politicians who guarantee,
16:48SPEAKERlike you know exactly how they've stood on things
16:50SPEAKERfor a long time, you gotta get podcasters
16:53SPEAKERwho've been doing this for a really long time,
16:55SPEAKERwho just talk into mics until they run out of things to say,
16:58SPEAKERand then you'll know if they're Nazis,
16:59SPEAKER'cause like I guarantee you, I can assure you,
17:03SPEAKERyou can go back as far as you want in my history,
17:05SPEAKERno Nazi tattoos and no questionable posts about, you know,
17:10SPEAKERfascist bullshit, so anyway.
17:14SPEAKER- All right.
17:14SPEAKER- Don't elect that guy also, there's better people in Maine.
17:18SPEAKERSorry, Bernie.
17:19SPEAKER- Wait, Bernie is in Vermont.
17:20SPEAKER- Bernie is defending that guy.
17:23SPEAKER- Oh, oh, I see.
17:24SPEAKER- He's like, he's better now, I don't care.
17:27SPEAKER- All right, next email from Eric.
17:29SPEAKERI would politely disagree with Will's assertion
17:31SPEAKERthat McMaster Car is a great place to buy stuff from.
17:34SPEAKERI work for a company that places orders with McMaster Car,
17:37SPEAKERand it's absolutely not for the reason
17:39SPEAKERthat they are the cheapest or best placed by the item.
17:42SPEAKERTheir strength is in their vast in-stock inventory
17:44SPEAKERand that most orders can be shipped out the same day.
17:47SPEAKERThe price for items on McMaster is often two times or more
17:50SPEAKERthe price for the exact same item
17:52SPEAKERfrom the original manufacturer.
17:54SPEAKERThat is not to say that McMaster Car
17:55SPEAKERisn't a great place to order from,
17:57SPEAKERbut I would argue that only applies to businesses
17:59SPEAKERor someone deep into a maker hobby.
18:02SPEAKERThey also have great customer service,
18:04SPEAKERbut again, only when you have an account with them
18:05SPEAKERthat spends thousands of dollars a month.
18:08SPEAKERIf you want convenience, fast shipping,
18:10SPEAKERand somewhere you can order everything you need
18:11SPEAKERfor your lab, shop, garage, et cetera in one place,
18:14SPEAKERMcMaster is great, but as an individual consumer
18:17SPEAKERbuying a small quantity, McMaster is much more expensive
18:20SPEAKERand not worth it, all my opinion, of course.
18:23SPEAKER- So I disagree heartily here
18:25SPEAKERbecause I think if you're buying stuff for a shop
18:28SPEAKERand you're buying a bazillion of something,
18:29SPEAKERyes, absolutely right.
18:31SPEAKERYou should buy it from the main source
18:32SPEAKERand pay the retail price.
18:35SPEAKERI think if you're buying something that you need three of
18:38SPEAKERfor a hobby, like if I'm buying a linear bearing,
18:42SPEAKERwhich I'm gonna have a hard time finding a source for,
18:45SPEAKERlinear bearing's a tube that has balls in it
18:48SPEAKERthat you can put a metal shaft through
18:50SPEAKERand the shaft will slide back and forth,
18:53SPEAKERI can get one for 25 bucks here, right?
18:56SPEAKERAnd yeah, that's a huge markup over the manufacturer price,
18:59SPEAKERbut they only make me buy one at McMaster Car
19:02SPEAKERand if I buy it from the manufacturer,
19:03SPEAKERI'm gonna have to buy a hundred.
19:05SPEAKERSo I think for hobby, like when we talk about stuff here,
19:08SPEAKERwe're talking about for hobbyists
19:09SPEAKERand for people who are futzing around with stuff,
19:12SPEAKERwe're not talking about to outfit your shop.
19:15SPEAKERLike you're absolutely, like if you're making a product
19:18SPEAKERthat uses linear bearings,
19:19SPEAKERyou're gonna make a hundred thousand of them,
19:21SPEAKERdon't buy it from McMaster Car, 100% agree.
19:24SPEAKER- Yeah, this kind of came up on the Nextlander Podcast
19:28SPEAKERrecently, not about this vendor in particular,
19:29SPEAKERbut this vendor sounds like the classic type of B2B
19:33SPEAKERsort of place that if you're spending your company's money,
19:37SPEAKERyou are happy to go to.
19:39SPEAKERIf you're spending your own money,
19:41SPEAKERyou start to think a little harder about it,
19:42SPEAKERbut like what we were talking about was like the ease
19:46SPEAKERwith which if you are dealing with purchasing
19:48SPEAKERin a corporate environment.
19:50SPEAKER- Well, that's a whole different, yeah.
19:51SPEAKER- You're just like, fuck it, yeah,
19:53SPEAKERof course I'll pay the 2X markup
19:55SPEAKER'cause this is way easier.
19:57SPEAKER- Thanks, yeah.
19:57SPEAKER- They have some white glove service
19:59SPEAKERthat's gonna make it much easier
20:00SPEAKERto just put this order in and get the thing here
20:02SPEAKERbecause I don't care because it's not my money.
20:04SPEAKER- Well, and I mean, Vinny lived the hell
20:06SPEAKERof big company purchasing for a long time,
20:08SPEAKERwhich meant that like there were some vendors
20:11SPEAKERthat just wouldn't fool with the kind of purchasing,
20:14SPEAKERthe PO process that a company as big as CBS Interactive
20:17SPEAKERor something would deal with.
20:18SPEAKER- Or the opposite was true,
20:20SPEAKERCBS wouldn't buy from certain vendor.
20:22SPEAKERThey had preferred vendors
20:23SPEAKERthat they kind of required you to buy from.
20:25SPEAKER- Yeah, but like, so like there's a handful of vendors
20:29SPEAKERthat will deal with small quantities.
20:30SPEAKERMcMaster's car is one.
20:32SPEAKERI wanna say, oh god, I can't remember the name
20:34SPEAKERof the electronics place.
20:35SPEAKERWell, the electronics stuff has been largely supplanted
20:37SPEAKERby companies that cater specifically to makers
20:43SPEAKERand the kind of quantities that they're interested in,
20:45SPEAKERso people are doing one-off projects.
20:47SPEAKERSo like Adafruit, you can buy a bunch of controllers
20:49SPEAKERand like all of, if you think about all of the little bits
20:52SPEAKERand bobs that are on every circuit board ever,
20:56SPEAKERit's like if you wanna buy those
20:58SPEAKERfrom a real electronics supply company,
21:00SPEAKERyou're gonna have to buy 10,000
21:01SPEAKERof each of those little MOSFETs and transistors and stuff.
21:04SPEAKERBut if I'm just doing a one circuit board
21:06SPEAKERfor a project I'm working on, I need three of them.
21:08SPEAKERSo I'm gonna buy them from Adafruit
21:10SPEAKERand I'm gonna pay a huge premium
21:11SPEAKERto not have to buy 1,000 of them, and that's fine.
21:14SPEAKERSo I don't wanna have to store 1,000 of them.
21:15SPEAKERI'm never gonna use 1,000 of them.
21:17SPEAKERThey're just gonna be a problem for my kid
21:18SPEAKERto get rid of when I croak.
21:19SPEAKERSo. - Yikes.
21:21SPEAKER- What, I mean, it's like, look, real talk.
21:24SPEAKER- I went to a dark place?
21:25SPEAKER- Look, time is ineffable, Brad.
21:27SPEAKERWe're all gonna die eventually, it's fine.
21:31SPEAKER- Hopefully not for a while, though.
21:32SPEAKER- Hopefully not for a while.
21:33SPEAKER- I don't know how long you're planning
21:34SPEAKERto keep all that stuff.
21:36SPEAKER- I'm not gonna use, look, if I do every project
21:39SPEAKERI ever wanna have, I'm never gonna use 1,000 MOSFETs
21:42SPEAKERin the next 50 years.
21:43SPEAKER- Fair, you're right.
21:44SPEAKERI've got a whole drawer full of little vinyl standoffs
21:47SPEAKERthat I needed four of. - Yep.
21:49SPEAKER- And not 300.
21:51SPEAKER- The other day I was cleaning out a drawer in here
21:54SPEAKERand I was like, oh wow, yeah, I had to buy a bag
21:56SPEAKERof 350 vinyl screws for a thing I was doing.
22:00SPEAKERAnd did I need 350 vinyl screws?
22:02SPEAKERI'm never gonna use them.
22:03SPEAKERSo I threw out 200 of them and I kept 100,
22:06SPEAKERand that's still more than I'm ever gonna need.
22:08SPEAKER- Yep, yep.
22:10SPEAKERQuestion from Tim.
22:12SPEAKERWould you guys ever consider using one of the AI type
22:15SPEAKERand note taker apps while you record the podcast
22:17SPEAKERto make it easier to go back
22:18SPEAKERand create more fleshed out show notes?
22:21SPEAKERLike a lot of people, I listen on the go
22:22SPEAKERand making notes for myself of what to go back
22:24SPEAKERand pursue is difficult.
22:26SPEAKERThe one that consistently catches me
22:27SPEAKERis when you're talking about some cool product,
22:29SPEAKERbut it's not until later in the discussion
22:31SPEAKERthat I realize I need that,
22:33SPEAKERbut I haven't taken note of the specific name
22:34SPEAKERof the product, which was probably only mentioned
22:37SPEAKERin full at the start of the segment.
22:40SPEAKER- So I've looked at this before.
22:43SPEAKERWell, first off, Juliette in the Discord
22:46SPEAKERdid transcripts of course for a while
22:48SPEAKERwith one of the early AI transcriber tools.
22:52SPEAKERI believe it was one of the AI transcriber tools,
22:55SPEAKERwhich just to be clear, this is one of those places
22:57SPEAKERwhere I feel like, A, it's not generative AI,
23:01SPEAKERit's just doing voice transcription, which feels okay to me.
23:04SPEAKER- Yeah, it's kind of, it's in that DLSS vein
23:07SPEAKERof taking an input and doing something with it.
23:12SPEAKER- I've tried a couple of different tools.
23:14SPEAKERI put this in 'cause I would love feedback
23:16SPEAKERfrom the community.
23:17SPEAKERI've tried multiple tools, including,
23:20SPEAKERlike I've used Whisper, which is, I want to say,
23:22SPEAKERMeta's big LLM for audio transcription.
23:27SPEAKERI can't remember.
23:27SPEAKER- I don't think Whisper came out of Meta,
23:30SPEAKERbut you might be right.
23:30SPEAKER- I tried Whisper, I tried Meta's LLM
23:33SPEAKERfor audio transcription.
23:36SPEAKERI think Google has one too,
23:37SPEAKERthat's been the one that they use for YouTube.
23:40SPEAKER- Whisper is open AI.
23:41SPEAKER- Whisper's open AI.
23:42SPEAKER- But yeah, I'm sure every major entity has a text,
23:46SPEAKERlike speech-to-text transcription
23:47SPEAKERis about the most classic example of this.
23:49SPEAKERYou can think of.
23:51SPEAKER- So it was relatively easy for me to generate a transcript
23:54SPEAKERfrom each of our stubs or for both of us together.
24:00SPEAKER- Yeah.
24:00SPEAKER- The thing that's challenging is, and it sounds stupid,
24:04SPEAKERbut getting time codes that would let me merge it
24:07SPEAKERinto a machine readable format
24:09SPEAKERso that I take Brad's transcript and my transcript
24:12SPEAKERand merge them with Brad and Will in front of them
24:15SPEAKERin a human readable way
24:16SPEAKERthat doesn't require a ton of editing.
24:19SPEAKERSo if anybody has recommendations for tools
24:21SPEAKERthat'll do that, I'm happy to investigate
24:23SPEAKERand I will happily do the time to put those up every week
24:27SPEAKERbecause I would like, I feel bad.
24:30SPEAKERLike we've done transcripts off and on.
24:33SPEAKERWe stopped either because the quality of them
24:35SPEAKERwas really bad and unlegible
24:37SPEAKERor they were taking an incredible amount of work
24:42SPEAKERand I would love to bring them back.
24:44SPEAKERSo if people have suggestions, things that they've used,
24:46SPEAKERthings that they know about,
24:48SPEAKERplease send them in to techpod@content.town
24:50SPEAKERand I will take a look.
24:51SPEAKER- Yeah, my feeling generally is that the output of AI
24:53SPEAKERis untrustworthy enough that it would probably be
24:57SPEAKERalmost as much work to conduct oversight
24:59SPEAKERon what it was spitting out as it would be
25:00SPEAKERto just do the notes ourselves.
25:02SPEAKER- So the thing, but for notes, yes.
25:05SPEAKERFor transcriptions, no, 'cause then at least
25:06SPEAKERthe transcriptions you have a searchable output.
25:08SPEAKER- That's a different conversation.
25:10SPEAKER- Yeah, like I--
25:12SPEAKER- Notes or summaries require a level of processing
25:15SPEAKERthat straight transcription does not, you know, like that.
25:17SPEAKERYou're just turning words into text.
25:19SPEAKERIn the latter case, you're actually like hashing
25:23SPEAKERsome new information in the form of a summary.
25:27SPEAKER- I'm glad you circled back to that.
25:28SPEAKERI don't like the notes apps.
25:30SPEAKERI find they are absolutely right there, unreliable.
25:33SPEAKER- Right, right, that is potential for the model
25:35SPEAKERto then hallucinate meaning or information
25:37SPEAKERthat was not actually there.
25:39SPEAKER- Especially given that we talk about stuff
25:40SPEAKERthat they don't know about.
25:41SPEAKER- Right, and that's where the required oversight
25:44SPEAKERon our part comes in and at that point
25:45SPEAKERit's better to just do it ourselves probably.
25:47SPEAKER- But the transcription would let you search
25:49SPEAKERfor the whole thing, which I do think it has value.
25:53SPEAKER- Yeah, I try to put links for most everything
25:55SPEAKERwe talk about that seem actionable into the show notes,
25:58SPEAKERbut sometimes stuff slips through the cracks.
26:02SPEAKERA very quick one, Brian wrote in asking for a reminder,
26:05SPEAKERspeaking like speak of the devil.
26:07SPEAKER- Yeah.
26:08SPEAKER- Brian asked for a reminder on the earbud attachments
26:10SPEAKERthat you like, although I think you maybe
26:11SPEAKERhave an update there.
26:13SPEAKER- Yeah, so I've been buying Comply phone tips
26:15SPEAKERfor years, they don't last as long as I would like.
26:19SPEAKERI get a three pack and they last about,
26:21SPEAKERlooking at my Amazon history, about a year and a half
26:23SPEAKERor two years, and that's with daily use for their pod pros.
26:29SPEAKERA couple people wrote in, I think including Mike B.
26:33SPEAKERI think recommended SpinFit medical grade silicone tips.
26:37SPEAKERSo they use a higher, less kind of reactive,
26:41SPEAKERless irritating grade of silicone.
26:44SPEAKER- Than Apple?
26:45SPEAKER- Than Apple.
26:46SPEAKER- And higher grade than Apple?
26:48SPEAKER- The Apple ones aren't medical grade, so they can,
26:51SPEAKERlook, when I use the Apple of silicone ear tips
26:53SPEAKERin my ears, they make my ears kind of ooky and gross,
26:57SPEAKERit's not good.
26:58SPEAKER- Thought they were supposed to be the Rolex
27:00SPEAKERof technology companies.
27:01SPEAKER- Well, I mean, look, there's always something nicer.
27:04SPEAKERSo the SpinFits are 16 or 17 bucks.
27:06SPEAKERIt's for one set of tips.
27:08SPEAKERThe complies come in a three pack,
27:11SPEAKERbut the SpinFits are supposed to last for much longer.
27:15SPEAKERAnd I was curious, so I ordered a pair
27:17SPEAKERand I'll let you know how they are in a few weeks.
27:19SPEAKERThey get here on Saturday, I think.
27:21SPEAKER- Great.
27:23SPEAKER- So yeah, that's that.
27:25SPEAKERBut the complies, the thing I like about the complies
27:27SPEAKERis because they're foam, they seal better
27:30SPEAKERand they are actually much more comfortable.
27:31SPEAKERSo you get a better experience, I think.
27:35SPEAKER- Cool.
27:36SPEAKERI'm gonna juke down to the Discord queues
27:39SPEAKER'cause we've got a ton of those.
27:40SPEAKER- Okay.
27:41SPEAKER- Dondo, I'm not sure we quite have enough information here
27:44SPEAKERto fully address this question,
27:45SPEAKERbut it's an interesting question.
27:46SPEAKERI bought a 20 volt charger for a device.
27:50SPEAKERWhat are the chances that plugging the charger into my wall
27:52SPEAKERplants a virus into my network
27:54SPEAKERor steals personal information?
27:55SPEAKERI'm gonna say pretty, without knowing the brand
27:58SPEAKERof the charger or the device you're trying to charge,
27:59SPEAKERI'm gonna say pretty low.
28:01SPEAKER- I think plugging something into your electrical network
28:04SPEAKERis probably safe.
28:05SPEAKER- Unless you're running powerline networking,
28:07SPEAKERI'm going to say you probably,
28:09SPEAKERthere probably is no route from your wall outlet
28:12SPEAKERinto your LAN, if that's what you're asking.
28:15SPEAKER- If you're running powerline networking
28:17SPEAKERand you're not being attacked by a nation state
28:19SPEAKERor some dedicated entity that's trying to get to you
28:21SPEAKERspecifically, you're probably fine.
28:23SPEAKERAnd also if you're in that situation,
28:25SPEAKERdon't run powerline networking.
28:26SPEAKER- Yep, yep.
28:27SPEAKERAnd practice good wifi security.
28:29SPEAKER- Yeah, or just don't use wifi.
28:31SPEAKER- That also is an option, I suppose.
28:33SPEAKER- Yeah.
28:34SPEAKER- Electricity, it turns out pretty safe.
28:37SPEAKER- This is a good question from Poochie D1.
28:39SPEAKER"I just bought a new car and it came with a lot of paperwork,
28:42SPEAKER"sales agreements, warranty information,
28:44SPEAKER"insurance information, et cetera.
28:45SPEAKER"And I started thinking, should I digitize all this
28:48SPEAKER"just in case?
28:50SPEAKER"The effort of doing it seems overwhelming,
28:51SPEAKER"especially because I'd be scanning with my phone.
28:54SPEAKER"Is it worth it?
28:55SPEAKER"Do you do this?"
28:57SPEAKER- I just had to send my car lease to the techs,
28:59SPEAKERto the accountants.
29:03SPEAKERSo it turns out it comes up sometimes, I don't know.
29:06SPEAKER- Yeah, I kind of am doing this
29:08SPEAKERfor just about everything now.
29:10SPEAKER- Are you keeping paper versions still?
29:12SPEAKER- I typically, I'm trying to think of an example
29:14SPEAKERwhere I have kept a paper version.
29:16SPEAKERI was gonna say like, if it was something
29:18SPEAKERlike insanely important, like a birth certificate
29:20SPEAKERor something, I would probably.
29:21SPEAKERBut by and large, just about everything,
29:23SPEAKERI turned into a PDF with my phone and then shred.
29:27SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm increasingly on team,
29:30SPEAKERlet's get rid of all the paper.
29:31SPEAKER- Yeah, keeping stuff around is just kind of a pain.
29:34SPEAKER- Birth certificates you should keep around probably.
29:36SPEAKER- Yes, it's like official documents, definitely for sure.
29:39SPEAKER- Marriage certificates, birth certificates,
29:41SPEAKERstuff like that.
29:42SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm still using Genius Scan on iOS
29:44SPEAKERjust because that's what I started using 15 years ago.
29:47SPEAKER- Oh, I just used the Dropbox scanner at this point.
29:49SPEAKERIt's pretty good.
29:49SPEAKER- What does Dropbox have one too?
29:50SPEAKER- Built into the app.
29:52SPEAKER- Maybe, hmm, maybe I should use that then.
29:56SPEAKERThat's probably, yeah, and like I know the Apple Notes app
29:59SPEAKERon iOS and I'm sure they're Android equivalents
30:02SPEAKERfor all this stuff.
30:02SPEAKER- Yeah, this is one of those places where Genius Scanner
30:05SPEAKERhad a really good idea and implemented it really well
30:07SPEAKERand then it turns out it was pretty easy to do
30:08SPEAKERand everybody did it almost immediately after.
30:10SPEAKER- They got Sherlock'd.
30:12SPEAKER- Yeah, Sherlock'd, exactly.
30:13SPEAKER- There is, there's a self-hosted option
30:17SPEAKERcalled Paperless NGX, I think we've talked about before.
30:19SPEAKER- Okay.
30:20SPEAKER- Have you ever looked at that?
30:21SPEAKER- No, but I like that.
30:22SPEAKER- I don't know that like, like are the Googles of the world
30:25SPEAKERdoing any kind of like document level?
30:28SPEAKERI mean, not obviously Google Docs exists,
30:30SPEAKERbut I'm talking more something for like organize,
30:33SPEAKERlike Google Docs is more for creating documents
30:35SPEAKERand storing them and editing them.
30:36SPEAKERLike I'm thinking more like if you have a bunch of like PDFs
30:39SPEAKERor something, is there anybody commercially
30:42SPEAKERthat is offering any kind of like organization
30:44SPEAKERand storage service?
30:45SPEAKER- Keap kind of does that, but no, I think the idea
30:48SPEAKERis you just chuck those PDFs
30:49SPEAKERinto your online storage folders.
30:51SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I guess it probably indexes them.
30:53SPEAKERI guess you can search them, but like that's what Paperless
30:55SPEAKERis basically a way to, I haven't looked into it too much,
31:00SPEAKERbut it's a way to store all of your documents
31:02SPEAKERfor safekeeping and indexing and searching and everything.
31:06SPEAKERLike it kind of, if I understand correctly,
31:08SPEAKERit stores the original documents that you give it,
31:10SPEAKERbut it also kind of hashes new versions that are
31:12SPEAKER- Oh, that's nice.
31:13SPEAKER- more easily indexed and it's kind of searching capacity.
31:17SPEAKERAnyway, it seems like a potentially a nice way
31:19SPEAKERif you were to read PDFs of every document you have
31:23SPEAKERthat was important to maybe store them in one place
31:25SPEAKERand make them searchable and stuff.
31:27SPEAKER- Cool.
31:28SPEAKER- It is a lot of work though.
31:29SPEAKER- It is a buttload of work for like,
31:31SPEAKER- You're not wrong.
31:31SPEAKER- Like the thing, honestly, I think if I was gonna do that,
31:33SPEAKERI'd want a document, a sheet pad, like a document scanner
31:37SPEAKERwith a loader to just dump everything on
31:39SPEAKERand then come back when it's jammed or done.
31:41SPEAKER- It would really be nice to be able to just feed,
31:43SPEAKERof course, if you're putting a giant stack in there,
31:45SPEAKERthen you have to go in and tell it which pages go
31:47SPEAKERwith which documents, like that is some work as well.
31:49SPEAKER- No, I want the machine to just do that.
31:51SPEAKER- Yeah, okay, all right, sounds like a job for AI.
31:54SPEAKER- Yeah, oh, oh, nevermind, I'm good.
31:57SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway, I think there is definitely something
32:00SPEAKERto this if you're willing to put in some work,
32:01SPEAKERbut it really depends on your tolerance
32:03SPEAKERfor having stacks of old papers around.
32:05SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm not sure, I'm, this might be one
32:10SPEAKERwhere the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
32:12SPEAKERIs that the right way to use that one?
32:14SPEAKER- Yes, yes, that's a good metaphor there.
32:17SPEAKER- Yeah.
32:18SPEAKER- Like in my case, I really hate having a bunch
32:20SPEAKERof clutter around and particularly a bunch of papers
32:23SPEAKERthat like having categorized the papers physically
32:26SPEAKERis way worse than having to categorize them
32:28SPEAKERon a hard drive for me.
32:30SPEAKER- Yeah, that's true, I mean, I have a filing cabinet
32:32SPEAKERover here that I just, I pile stuff up on top of
32:35SPEAKERand then about twice a year, I just load up
32:36SPEAKEReverything in their appropriate hanging folders.
32:39SPEAKER- I guess that's, you know, if I have room
32:40SPEAKERfor a filing cabinet, I might have a different opinion
32:42SPEAKERon this subject, but.
32:44SPEAKER- I'd rather just have it be bits on a hard drive.
32:47SPEAKER- Although my parents have, yes, exactly,
32:49SPEAKERmy parents have filing cabinets that have been there
32:51SPEAKERfor 40 years and boy is it a pain moving those things around.
32:54SPEAKER- But they're really heavy
32:55SPEAKERand full of tax returns from 1985.
32:57SPEAKER- They sure are.
32:58SPEAKER- Yeah.
32:59SPEAKER- I support this effort.
33:03SPEAKERMangix, Mangix, Mangix.
33:06SPEAKER- Maginex, Mang-G-X.
33:10SPEAKER- Sure.
33:11SPEAKER- Okay.
33:12SPEAKER- Have LED backlit TVs meaningfully improved since 2020?
33:16SPEAKERI have a mid range TCL Roku TV from that year
33:19SPEAKERand I'm feeling an ish to upgrade.
33:21SPEAKERI'm hesitant on OLED because I stream static content
33:24SPEAKERlike a lo-fi, I don't know what lo-fi is.
33:27SPEAKERYour?
33:28SPEAKER- Music, I think, right?
33:29SPEAKER- Maybe, L-O-W-F-I?
33:33SPEAKER- Probably music with no, like on YouTube would be my guess.
33:37SPEAKERAnd it's just a still image, yeah.
33:41SPEAKER- All right, I'll take that.
33:42SPEAKERAnyway, I'm hesitant on OLED
33:44SPEAKERbecause I stream static content frequently
33:46SPEAKERand it's used in a bright room.
33:48SPEAKERHow do I know I'll actually see an improvement
33:49SPEAKERwith my new TV?
33:50SPEAKERI mostly stream TV with an Apple TV
33:52SPEAKERand occasionally I play PS5 on it.
33:55SPEAKERI'm gonna say yes, LED backlit TVs
33:58SPEAKERhave gotten significantly better since 2020
34:00SPEAKERand it's because that's the time period
34:02SPEAKERwhen mini-LED has gotten much bigger
34:04SPEAKERand started evolving very rapidly.
34:07SPEAKER- Yeah, they've gotten insanely bright too.
34:08SPEAKER- Yes, that is like, that is the advantage
34:11SPEAKERof the mini-LED TVs over OLED is that the brightness
34:13SPEAKERis like there is no comparison in how bright they can get.
34:16SPEAKER- The OLED TVs, they're starting to do stuff
34:18SPEAKERlike have two layers of OLEDs on top of each other
34:22SPEAKERso you get double the brightness out of them,
34:24SPEAKERstuff like that.
34:24SPEAKER- Yeah, like OLEDs are getting brighter,
34:26SPEAKERbut yes, they are having to pull tricks.
34:27SPEAKERMini-LED is the thing where there are like
34:29SPEAKERa bajillion tiny little LED backlights
34:32SPEAKERthat can kind of turn on and off in zones
34:35SPEAKERthat kind of give you not quite the level of contrast
34:40SPEAKERof an OLED, but somewhat close.
34:42SPEAKER- And I don't know, for a while when the mini-LEDs
34:46SPEAKERcame out, the localized background dimming
34:49SPEAKERwas kind of iffy.
34:50SPEAKERI have a, oh God, what's the one that starts with V?
34:55SPEAKERI have a TV from like 2016, 2017
34:58SPEAKERthat had localized dimming that I had to turn off
35:00SPEAKERbecause you can't, like when there's like the titles
35:04SPEAKERat the end of a movie, you just can't read them
35:06SPEAKERbecause it localizes the whole screen dark.
35:08SPEAKER- Right, so it's worth pointing out
35:11SPEAKERthere is an industry distinction
35:13SPEAKERbetween the term local dimming and mini-LED
35:15SPEAKERthat's kind of like if you have
35:18SPEAKERa quote unquote local dimming TV,
35:20SPEAKERthat's sort of the previous like zone based
35:23SPEAKERbacklight control thing on TVs.
35:25SPEAKER- Fewer zones, right?
35:27SPEAKER- Yeah, yes, like way fewer, I guess like,
35:29SPEAKERI mean, I think it's more a difference of degree
35:31SPEAKERrather than kind, it's just mini-LED just started doing
35:34SPEAKERway, way, way more zones that can be turned on and off.
35:37SPEAKERLike on my TV, you can see like,
35:40SPEAKERif you have like a generally dark screen
35:42SPEAKERwith a couple of like really bright elements in it
35:45SPEAKERthat are moving around, you can kind of see the zones
35:48SPEAKERturning on and off, but that's such an infrequent,
35:50SPEAKERlike I like the Xbox UI is a good place to see this
35:53SPEAKERa little spinning throbber in the middle of a dark screen,
35:55SPEAKERyou can kind of see the zones like turning off
35:58SPEAKERand on around that, but it's such an infrequent thing
36:00SPEAKERthat I typically don't notice it at all.
36:03SPEAKERAnd if you look at like kind of year over year improvements
36:09SPEAKERin specific models, like my Hisense is two years old now,
36:13SPEAKERlike I kind of every year they have been putting out
36:14SPEAKERnot just them, but everybody will like,
36:16SPEAKERevery subsequent year's model has like more zones,
36:19SPEAKERmore fine grained control over turning the backlight
36:23SPEAKERon and off.
36:24SPEAKER- Can never have too many zones.
36:26SPEAKER- Like I would probably buy an OLED at this point
36:29SPEAKERif I were to buy a new TV,
36:31SPEAKERbut there are some advantages to mini-LED
36:33SPEAKERlike Sony has gone back to mini-LED.
36:35SPEAKERI don't know if you saw this, it was like kind of a minor.
36:38SPEAKER- Yeah.
36:39SPEAKER- I don't know if controversy is too strong a word,
36:40SPEAKERbut Sony's flagship model was OLED for some number of years
36:44SPEAKERand they have now gone back to mini-LED
36:46SPEAKERas their kind of top ends,
36:48SPEAKERquote unquote, nicest flagship set.
36:50SPEAKERAnd that was kind of a big deal for some people.
36:53SPEAKER- I mean, it depends on what budget you're looking at.
36:54SPEAKERI was helping somebody buy a TV the other day
36:56SPEAKERand we were talking about it and I was like,
36:58SPEAKERlook, if you have a perfect room,
37:00SPEAKEROLED is gonna look incredible, right?
37:02SPEAKERIf you have a nice dark room, OLED is gonna look really good
37:04SPEAKERand you can get a bright enough OLED, it's fine.
37:06SPEAKER- Yeah, like the Samsungs are pretty bright,
37:07SPEAKERalthough they've got some downsides of their own.
37:09SPEAKER- But like, if you, like my room is not perfect,
37:13SPEAKERI would probably buy a bright mini-LED at this point.
37:15SPEAKER- And they're cheaper is the other thing.
37:16SPEAKER- Yeah, that's the other benefit.
37:17SPEAKER- Brighter and cheaper are basically the two advantages.
37:20SPEAKER- I'm looking at the Lo-fi Girl channel
37:22SPEAKERon YouTube right now, Lo-fi Hip Hop Radio,
37:26SPEAKERBeats to Relax/Study To.
37:28SPEAKERStream started on July 12th, 2022,
37:30SPEAKERhas 26,000 people watching it right now.
37:33SPEAKER- Lo-fi Girl is quite popular.
37:35SPEAKER- Lo-fi Girl, and this bops, this is pretty good.
37:37SPEAKER- Yeah, it's not bad.
37:39SPEAKER- We should, this is like music to podcast too, Brad.
37:41SPEAKER- Yep, it sure is.
37:45SPEAKEROh boy.
37:46SPEAKER- Okay.
37:47SPEAKER- We've got a profound instance here
37:48SPEAKERof somebody's Halloween,
37:49SPEAKERsomebody's cutesy Halloween username being unpronounceable.
37:52SPEAKERYou're looking at it, do you wanna take a shot?
37:54SPEAKER- It's aioli.
37:55SPEAKER- Okay, all right, there are a lot of O's in there.
37:58SPEAKER- Yeah, can we do an aside on Halloween names?
38:01SPEAKER- Sure.
38:02SPEAKER- 'Cause I've realized, both on social media and Discord,
38:05SPEAKERwhen people change their user profile pictures
38:07SPEAKERand their names at the same time,
38:10SPEAKERthey basically become a completely different entity to me.
38:13SPEAKER- They cease to exist, well, they don't cease to exist,
38:15SPEAKERbut yes, they become completely anonymous.
38:17SPEAKER- Yeah, it's challenging.
38:18SPEAKER- It's a good way to just hide your identity
38:19SPEAKERfor some period of time.
38:21SPEAKER- We should change.
38:22SPEAKERYou should be Will next year and I should be Brad.
38:24SPEAKER- Oh man, that is diabolical.
38:26SPEAKERI have never considered that before.
38:28SPEAKER- Yeah.
38:29SPEAKER- People just swapping username and profile picture
38:31SPEAKERis pretty fucked up, actually.
38:33SPEAKER- On one of my Discords, everybody made their name
38:36SPEAKERvariations of one of the mod's names,
38:37SPEAKERwhich was really funny for like five minutes,
38:39SPEAKERand then nobody could tell who the mod was.
38:41SPEAKERAnd like, anyway, it was, yeah, whatever.
38:44SPEAKER- Do you ever find yourself making an error on Discord
38:46SPEAKERor social media where like, okay,
38:48SPEAKERI assume you do this as well.
38:49SPEAKERLike your brain gets used to people's profile pictures
38:52SPEAKERenough that you just don't even look at the username anymore
38:55SPEAKERand you just kind of subconsciously assume,
38:56SPEAKERyou know, who you're reading based on seeing out
39:01SPEAKERof the corner of your eye, their profile picture.
39:03SPEAKERAnd like, have you ever gotten like entirely all the way
39:05SPEAKERthrough somebody's post and realized it was somebody else
39:07SPEAKERother than who you thought it was?
39:08SPEAKER- 100%, yeah.
39:09SPEAKER- Because their profile picture looks enough
39:11SPEAKERlike somebody else's.
39:13SPEAKER- Sometimes it's just, they change the background color.
39:15SPEAKERSo it's like orange blob on black is one person
39:17SPEAKERand orange blob on white is a different person.
39:19SPEAKER- Right.
39:22SPEAKERSocial media is probably bad for the brain.
39:24SPEAKER- Yeah.
39:25SPEAKERSo anyway, Aoli asked, if an entirely new novel
39:28SPEAKERand fresh OS was to hit the market for computers
39:31SPEAKERand or phones, what would you want to see
39:34SPEAKERin terms of features, designs, et cetera?
39:36SPEAKERNot a new version of Windows or a new distro of Linux
39:38SPEAKERor similar, but a brand new novel OS.
39:42SPEAKER- This is a really, I don't have a good answer for this.
39:44SPEAKERThis is an extremely hard question to answer,
39:46SPEAKERbut it's interesting.
39:47SPEAKER- I looked at this and you had highlighted it
39:49SPEAKERand I was like, we should just do a whole episode
39:50SPEAKERabout this 'cause this is a fun question.
39:52SPEAKER- Yeah, like I think this is gonna take like weeks
39:54SPEAKERof spitballing, brainstorming, like just kind
39:58SPEAKERof generally thinking about the topic
39:59SPEAKERof what should a new operating system do?
40:01SPEAKER- Well, so I will say part of this is informed
40:05SPEAKERby my experimenting with tiling OSs,
40:08SPEAKERtiling window managers on Linux and stuff like that
40:11SPEAKERand thinking about different novel ways
40:14SPEAKERto interact with software rather than,
40:17SPEAKERhey, we have Windows, you can move around the screen.
40:21SPEAKERAnd I had previously kind of thought about that
40:24SPEAKERas a limiting thing rather than a powerful thing
40:26SPEAKERand when presented in, but just from my time on iPad,
40:30SPEAKERlike using multitasking on iPad Pros,
40:33SPEAKER'cause it is a little bit limiting there.
40:35SPEAKERThe using it in a way when it's really smart
40:39SPEAKERand really well implemented and it's designed
40:41SPEAKERto be much more user configurable,
40:45SPEAKERit's a pretty amazing thing.
40:51SPEAKERI think the quick answer to this is that you start
40:53SPEAKERwith something that manages memory more efficient,
40:59SPEAKERmore securely like Rust and you build up from there
41:03SPEAKERand although that's a super trendy answer
41:05SPEAKERand I probably don't know the actual reasons
41:07SPEAKERwhy you would do that.
41:08SPEAKER- Well, actually I've brought this up before.
41:09SPEAKERThere actually is a new and novel fresh OS called Redix
41:13SPEAKERthat is exactly what you're talking about.
41:14SPEAKERIt is another Unix-like that is written entirely in Rust.
41:18SPEAKER- Welcome to season three of the Dual Boot Diaries.
41:20SPEAKER- That's the one where it's one of the System 76 engineers
41:23SPEAKERis the BDFL for that project.
41:27SPEAKER- Okay.
41:28SPEAKER- The benevolent dictator for life.
41:30SPEAKER- Yeah, that's the Linus term.
41:33SPEAKERWhich is a slightly too cute term
41:35SPEAKERthat you occasionally see on open source projects.
41:37SPEAKERBut yes, he is the Linus of Redix.
41:41SPEAKERI don't know if the Redix will ever take off.
41:42SPEAKERI think it's an experimental hobby thing.
41:44SPEAKER- Yeah.
41:45SPEAKER- But there's all kinds of other Unix-likes
41:47SPEAKERthat aren't Linux floating around out there
41:48SPEAKERjust waiting for people to be cool and check them out.
41:52SPEAKER- Look, I think it's like,
41:57SPEAKERI don't know how you evolve a new OS at this point, right?
42:00SPEAKERLike we got iOS because there was an inflection point
42:04SPEAKERand there was a moment when like the hardware
42:06SPEAKERand the software lined up and there was a thing
42:08SPEAKERand then the Android kind of came out of that as well.
42:13SPEAKER- I don't know if, do you actually need to?
42:16SPEAKERLike I was thinking about this the other day,
42:19SPEAKERlike Windows, Linux, Mac OS are all running
42:22SPEAKERunderlying systems like kernels
42:24SPEAKERthat are 30 plus years old at this point, 35 years old.
42:27SPEAKER- I think that's a strength, not a weakness.
42:29SPEAKER- Right, exactly, like, and you see all the time,
42:31SPEAKERlike you actually, like as far as I can tell,
42:33SPEAKERlike the Windows NT kernel to this day
42:35SPEAKERis like very highly respected
42:37SPEAKERas a piece of software engineering.
42:39SPEAKER- Dave Plummer seems to like it.
42:41SPEAKER- Yes, well, he wrote most of them.
42:43SPEAKER- He's generally a fan.
42:45SPEAKER- Yes, I mean, he has actually even started poking fun
42:48SPEAKERat himself a bit about the,
42:50SPEAKERhey, I wrote that thing in Windows.
42:52SPEAKERHey, I wrote that other thing too.
42:53SPEAKERI wrote the copy dialogue.
42:54SPEAKERI wrote the zip support.
42:55SPEAKERI wrote the format utility.
42:58SPEAKERI wrote pinball.
42:59SPEAKER- When he wrote, when he said he wrote the zip file
43:01SPEAKERor the zip support, I was like, okay,
43:02SPEAKERso you're the one to blame
43:03SPEAKERfor this slow as zip implementation.
43:05SPEAKERCome on, man.
43:06SPEAKER- Yeah.
43:07SPEAKER- Anyway.
43:08SPEAKER- Speaking of Microsoft Dave's,
43:09SPEAKERwe've talked about this before.
43:10SPEAKERI still need to go back and listen to this.
43:12SPEAKERHe has that like three hour interview up with Dave Cutler,
43:16SPEAKERwho was the architect of the NT kernel back in the nineties
43:20SPEAKERthat goes into a bunch of the history around that stuff.
43:22SPEAKERAnyway, like, you know, Mac OS was based on next step,
43:26SPEAKERwhich was a BSD derivative.
43:28SPEAKERIt started in the eighties,
43:29SPEAKERlike Linux is famously 35 years old.
43:32SPEAKERLike the underpinnings of all the major operating systems,
43:36SPEAKERlike just the basic technical ones seem extremely sound
43:39SPEAKERat this point.
43:40SPEAKERAnd I don't know that,
43:41SPEAKERand actually as a corollary to this,
43:43SPEAKERlistening to the dual blue diaries has been a good reminder
43:45SPEAKERthat for most end users,
43:47SPEAKERlike the operating system is the interface.
43:50SPEAKER- Yeah, 100%.
43:51SPEAKER- It's not what's underneath the interface
43:52SPEAKERof running the actual system.
43:54SPEAKERIt's just what are the pieces that I touch to engage with
43:57SPEAKERusing my computer.
43:58SPEAKERIt's actually been interesting listening to the,
44:01SPEAKERlistening to the dual blue diaries,
44:02SPEAKERreminding me how Linux has effectively decoupled
44:05SPEAKERthe interface from the OS itself in a lot of ways.
44:08SPEAKERSo like people are coming to Linux or like,
44:11SPEAKERlike Adam trying Fedora and thinking it was very Ubuntu-like
44:15SPEAKERbecause they both use GNOME and then realizing like,
44:18SPEAKERhe actually said it out loud.
44:19SPEAKERIt was like one of those aha moments.
44:20SPEAKERI heard the light bulb go off in his voice where he was like,
44:23SPEAKERoh, the things I liked about Ubuntu might have actually
44:25SPEAKERjust been GNOME things, not Ubuntu things,
44:28SPEAKERbecause I also have them in Fedora here.
44:30SPEAKER- Well, so for me, for me on this question though,
44:34SPEAKERit's like things that I like about,
44:35SPEAKERlike I think about things I like about
44:37SPEAKERthe different OSs, right?
44:38SPEAKERAnd I like how easy it is to run software in Windows.
44:42SPEAKERAnd I like that I don't really have to fool
44:44SPEAKERwith drivers in Linux, right?
44:45SPEAKERThat it just kind of,
44:46SPEAKERthe kernel just kind of takes care of that.
44:49SPEAKEROn Mac, I mean, I like how the dock bounces
44:52SPEAKERwhen I click an application.
44:54SPEAKERThat has always been my favorite.
44:56SPEAKERNo, seriously though, I don't,
44:58SPEAKERI haven't used a Mac in a really long time.
44:59SPEAKERSo I don't have a, like a current, what I like on Mac take.
45:04SPEAKERBut I think it's like taking the bits and pieces
45:06SPEAKERand the way the different things work.
45:07SPEAKERAnd I think you hit on something there where Linux
45:11SPEAKERis just this series of like loosely coupled software
45:16SPEAKERinterfaces that can all talk to each other
45:18SPEAKERin defined and extensible ways.
45:22SPEAKERAnd that's awesome right up until the moment that it's not.
45:25SPEAKERAnd like the moment that it's not
45:26SPEAKERis when you want to update something
45:28SPEAKERand like you don't have the right sub library,
45:30SPEAKERthen you end up replacing your entire window manager
45:33SPEAKERbecause you wanted to run a GTK6 thing, a QT6 thing,
45:37SPEAKERand you were in a QT5 or whatever.
45:38SPEAKER- I'm going to say, I'm going to save some of this
45:40SPEAKERfor the Patreon episode next week, I think.
45:41SPEAKERBut your story, your story about Neary breaking
45:44SPEAKERbecause Pac-Man decided to update Qt
45:46SPEAKERbefore Neary was updated enough
45:49SPEAKERto handle the new version of Qt
45:50SPEAKERand having your GUI just break is why
45:52SPEAKERI will never run a Hirsch.
45:53SPEAKER- Yeah, well, so- - No thanks.
45:55SPEAKER- Anyway, yeah, we talked about that this week.
45:57SPEAKERI fixed the problem, it turns out.
45:59SPEAKER- We'll get into it.
45:59SPEAKERDid you pin a package?
46:01SPEAKER- No, I didn't.
46:02SPEAKERI just installed snapper support
46:04SPEAKERand when something like that happens,
46:05SPEAKERI just roll back and then I don't worry about it.
46:07SPEAKER- Well, but then you can't update.
46:08SPEAKER- But like 12 hours later it was fixed, it was no big deal.
46:11SPEAKER- Well, that's fair.
46:13SPEAKEROne of my, okay, now I'm just getting into it.
46:14SPEAKERMy understanding on Arch is that you shouldn't not update
46:17SPEAKERfor too long 'cause that can also cause breakages, but.
46:19SPEAKER- Look, always be updating, but also test your backups
46:23SPEAKERis the big lesson from that whole outing.
46:25SPEAKERAnyway, I looked at Manjaro after this.
46:28SPEAKERI was like, maybe I should just do Manjaro
46:29SPEAKER'cause it's basically the same thing,
46:32SPEAKERbut it's stabilized.
46:36SPEAKER- Kind of more user-friendly Arch, right?
46:38SPEAKER- Yeah, before Kashi was the more friendly Arch,
46:41SPEAKERit was the more friendly Arch.
46:43SPEAKER- I guess there's room for that,
46:46SPEAKERbut I'm sure Manjaro is fine.
46:47SPEAKERIt's been around forever and when people seem to like it,
46:50SPEAKERbut like when you're at the point of running
46:52SPEAKERa more stable Arch, shouldn't you just run
46:54SPEAKERa different distro?
46:55SPEAKERAt that point, it's just Debian or Fedora or something.
46:58SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway, this is.
47:00SPEAKER- Okay, it says robust with rolling releases.
47:02SPEAKERWe'll get into this later.
47:03SPEAKER- Yeah, I need to do some more research there.
47:07SPEAKER- It is still a rolling distro.
47:08SPEAKERAnyway, Shagsmaboo, that's a Halloween username.
47:12SPEAKER- That's a pretty good name.
47:15SPEAKER- Speaking of operating systems,
47:16SPEAKERI'm having an urge to download 86Box
47:18SPEAKERand install Windows 95 and 98,
47:21SPEAKERbut I don't know what I would do with these
47:22SPEAKERafter I get the initial nostalgia surge
47:25SPEAKERafter like 15 minutes.
47:27SPEAKERPlease give me a reason to indulge in my dumb ideas.
47:29SPEAKERThe only reason I can give you is that it is fun
47:31SPEAKERbecause pretty similar thing here
47:35SPEAKERafter you get them installed and dink around
47:37SPEAKERin the UI a little bit and remember all the stuff
47:39SPEAKERyou remember, at least in my experience,
47:43SPEAKERyou kind of stop using them.
47:44SPEAKERYou're probably not gonna set up internet access
47:47SPEAKERin Windows 98 and use it as a daily driver
47:49SPEAKERfor web browsing or something like that.
47:51SPEAKER- So once I got Windows, once I got internet access
47:54SPEAKERrunning in Windows, that Windows 95 x86 box I made
47:57SPEAKERfor the Windows 95 anniversary episode,
47:59SPEAKERhaven't touched it since.
48:00SPEAKER- Yeah, same, but it's fun though.
48:02SPEAKERLike it's fun going through the installs for those things
48:05SPEAKERand remembering how things used to work
48:06SPEAKERand poking around in the BIOS.
48:09SPEAKER- I mean, it doesn't take up much space
48:11SPEAKERis the other nice thing.
48:12SPEAKERLike it's like relatively small.
48:14SPEAKERI've kind of been, I have it there to futz around with it.
48:17SPEAKERIf I want to grab a screenshot or an image or a video
48:19SPEAKERor something, I totally can and yeah.
48:21SPEAKER- It's a good time to do it.
48:22SPEAKERI think I might've mentioned this on the Windows 95 episode,
48:25SPEAKERbut the 5.0 release of 86 box that just came out
48:28SPEAKERa few weeks ago is a huge improvement over the 4.x
48:31SPEAKERbecause they finally have integrated their own way into,
48:34SPEAKERbelieve it or not, prior to this,
48:37SPEAKERthere was no way to manage multiple virtual computers
48:39SPEAKERin this thing.
48:40SPEAKER- Oh, really?
48:41SPEAKER- You had to get like an external add-on manager
48:43SPEAKERthat other people had built to like have more
48:46SPEAKERthan one virtual computer at a time.
48:49SPEAKER5.0 finally added sort of a computer browser
48:51SPEAKERwhere you can just make as many different
48:54SPEAKERkind of bespoke computer configs as you want
48:56SPEAKERand name them and keep them organized and managed.
49:00SPEAKERAnyway, good time to tinker with that stuff.
49:03SPEAKERBut yes, it's mostly, it's basically
49:07SPEAKERlike the emulation library thing, right?
49:08SPEAKERIt's like, as soon as you get the entire library
49:11SPEAKERof NES games at your fingertips,
49:14SPEAKERyou try each one for five minutes
49:15SPEAKERand then you probably move on with your life.
49:18SPEAKER- I gotta tell you, I set up that,
49:20SPEAKERthe attract mode thing for the Mr.
49:23SPEAKERand I flipped the TV on when I'm sitting in here
49:25SPEAKERand kind of when I have a quiet day
49:27SPEAKERand it's been really good
49:28SPEAKERbecause I occasionally see something that I remember
49:30SPEAKERand I'm like, oh man, I gotta play that a little bit.
49:32SPEAKERBut also I've seen a bunch of stuff that looks rad
49:35SPEAKERthat I never ever saw before.
49:36SPEAKERAnd that's been the best part of having that thing turned on.
49:39SPEAKER- Yeah.
49:40SPEAKER- The ratio of interesting to not interesting
49:42SPEAKERis not great for it though.
49:44SPEAKERI quite intentionally haven't hooked the watt meter
49:46SPEAKERup to it either.
49:47SPEAKER- Probably for the best.
49:48SPEAKER- Yeah.
49:50SPEAKER- Coyote S Pumpkins.
49:52SPEAKER- Oh boy, happy Halloween y'all.
49:53SPEAKER- You flagged this one, I assume you hadn't.
49:55SPEAKERI assume this is a yes.
49:56SPEAKERHave you guys tried James Hoffman's cold brew technique?
49:59SPEAKER- Oh, I wanted to talk about it.
50:02SPEAKERSo James Hoffman posted a video the other day
50:04SPEAKERwith a cold brew technique that used,
50:08SPEAKERoh God, what's it called?
50:09SPEAKERIt's, come on, I'm finding the link here.
50:13SPEAKERIt's the stuff that drops fines out of beer
50:17SPEAKERwhen you're making beer to clarify beer.
50:19SPEAKER- Vines, meaning like the tiny, tiny particles?
50:22SPEAKER- Tiny, tiny particles, yeah.
50:24SPEAKERI have not actually tried it, I'm going to.
50:27SPEAKERI'm kind of interested, but I have,
50:29SPEAKERmy cold brew technique I've been doing
50:30SPEAKERfor a long, long time at this point.
50:34SPEAKERAnd like, I don't, I mean, I guess the ratio,
50:40SPEAKERso his whole point is cold brew wastes
50:43SPEAKERa fair amount of coffee 'cause your ratio,
50:45SPEAKERinstead of being like 18 to one is 10 to one or nine to one.
50:49SPEAKERSo you're using, sorry, 11 to one.
50:52SPEAKERYou're using a lot more coffee per liter of water
50:56SPEAKERthat you use.
50:57SPEAKER- Is that for concentrate or for drinkable?
50:59SPEAKER- Both.
51:00SPEAKERSo generally speaking, the extraction is less,
51:02SPEAKERyou get less extraction.
51:04SPEAKER- I see.
51:05SPEAKER- With a cold brew process.
51:09SPEAKER- That makes sense.
51:10SPEAKER- But like, I think his, like, I'm not a coffee expert.
51:14SPEAKERI enjoy coffee a lot.
51:15SPEAKERI think his logic is a little flawed
51:18SPEAKERbecause he's talking about using a toddy,
51:20SPEAKERwhich is my least favorite way to make cold brew.
51:22SPEAKERI know you were a toddy guy for a minute.
51:24SPEAKER- Wait, oddy, the branded thing?
51:26SPEAKER- The branded thing.
51:27SPEAKER- No, I've never used a toddy before.
51:29SPEAKER- You were doing mason jars?
51:31SPEAKER- Mason jars, yeah.
51:34SPEAKERI think, like, it's a fining agent
51:38SPEAKERis the thing that he's using.
51:39SPEAKERAnd it's used in beer brewing.
51:40SPEAKERSo you put it in your finished beer
51:44SPEAKERto basically make sediment fall out over 12 hours.
51:49SPEAKERI use a Hario cold brewer, which is a nylon filter,
51:55SPEAKERand I grind finer than I do for brewed coffee,
51:58SPEAKERhot brewed coffee.
51:59SPEAKERSo I get pretty good extraction.
52:01SPEAKERI'm usually doing like a 12 to one or 13 to one coffee
52:05SPEAKERto water ratio by mass.
52:07SPEAKER- I always thought the recommendation for cold brew
52:09SPEAKERwas to grind coarser than usual.
52:10SPEAKER- It is, but if you use a fine enough filter,
52:13SPEAKERthe reason you do that is 'cause the water doesn't filter,
52:17SPEAKERthe water doesn't pass the filter as well when it's cold
52:19SPEAKERas it does when it's hot.
52:21SPEAKERSo if you're brewing in your mason jar
52:23SPEAKERand then running it through a filter,
52:24SPEAKERit's gonna take forever to drain through the filter.
52:27SPEAKER- That is the reason that I have fallen off cold brew.
52:29SPEAKERI'd kind of like to get back to it.
52:30SPEAKERI miss it, but it took all day to what, I forget,
52:35SPEAKERwhat is the biggest common size of mason jar?
52:37SPEAKER- The quart is the normal one.
52:39SPEAKERIt's like when I do the egg noggin as a quart,
52:42SPEAKERyou can get bigger than that, but that's the one I would use.
52:44SPEAKER- Like it basically took all day to pass that much cold brew
52:47SPEAKERconcentrate through multiple paper fill.
52:50SPEAKERI would have to change paper filters
52:51SPEAKERevery three or four hours 'cause they became-
52:54SPEAKER- They get clogged, right?
52:54SPEAKER- So saturated that they were useless,
52:56SPEAKERbut it took so long to filter it,
52:58SPEAKERbut it's not pleasant having all that grid in there,
53:02SPEAKERso you kind of have to do it.
53:03SPEAKER- So the immersion, the Hario's an immersion ones.
53:06SPEAKERYou have a tall, narrow glass carafe,
53:10SPEAKERand the nylon filter that holds 100 grams of grounds
53:14SPEAKERgoes in the top of that and it sits.
53:16SPEAKERSo you're diffusing out rather than immersioning in.
53:21SPEAKERYou have to stir it up.
53:22SPEAKERI usually stir it up once midway through
53:24SPEAKERand do it for 24 hours, but it's really highly effective.
53:28SPEAKERIt doesn't have any of the problems that he listed,
53:30SPEAKERand I get a really nice flavored cold brew
53:33SPEAKERwith none of the downside just using
53:34SPEAKERmy normal-ass San Francisco tap water.
53:37SPEAKERSo I'm kind of curious about the finding agents.
53:41SPEAKERI'm skeptical about pouring off,
53:43SPEAKERand it looked like you wasted a lot of coffee.
53:45SPEAKERSo they were literally just pouring off the top,
53:48SPEAKERletting the sediment settle out,
53:50SPEAKERand then pouring very carefully.
53:52SPEAKERAnd that looked to me like you're gonna waste
53:53SPEAKERa lot more stuff than otherwise.
53:55SPEAKERAnyway.
53:56SPEAKERI think that cold brew already feels,
53:58SPEAKERI don't wanna use the word wasteful,
54:00SPEAKERbut highly inefficient, or I already felt a little weird
54:03SPEAKERabout how many grounds I was throwing out
54:05SPEAKERevery time I did it.
54:06SPEAKER- Well, I mean, if you're doing concentrate
54:10SPEAKERat 10 to one, then that's fine, right?
54:12SPEAKER'Cause you're gonna add water to it and it'll be okay.
54:14SPEAKERThe downside of the Hario one is that
54:16SPEAKERunless you grind really, really fine,
54:17SPEAKERyou're not gonna get something that's concentrated enough
54:19SPEAKERto do more than add a little milk to, or put ice in.
54:24SPEAKERSo yeah, anyway, that's it on that.
54:26SPEAKER- I've solved this problem by going all the way
54:29SPEAKERto the other end of the spectrum
54:30SPEAKERand just getting very used to drinking instant coffee.
54:32SPEAKER- Oh God, like hula girl or something good,
54:35SPEAKERor are you into the taster's choice?
54:37SPEAKER- Typically the Nescafe Classico is the bulk purchase.
54:40SPEAKER- Oh God.
54:41SPEAKER- It's fine.
54:41SPEAKER- Okay.
54:42SPEAKER- It's a caffeine delivery mechanism.
54:45SPEAKER- Like you might as well just drink a rockstar at that point.
54:47SPEAKER- It's not that bad, it's not amazing.
54:49SPEAKERThe Starbucks instant is not bad.
54:52SPEAKER- Starbucks beers are good, yeah.
54:53SPEAKER- Last time I was home, there was some around
54:55SPEAKERand that's actually quite, Classico's okay.
54:58SPEAKER- Try the hula girl.
54:59SPEAKERThe hula girl, I was shocked in that I could not tell
55:03SPEAKERthat it was instant really, especially with milk.
55:06SPEAKER- Well, a nice instant gets kind of expensive though.
55:08SPEAKER- I mean, you treat yourself, Brad, live a little.
55:11SPEAKERYou deserve it.
55:12SPEAKER- Well, that's the thing though.
55:13SPEAKERWe're talking like that might be the couple times a month,
55:16SPEAKERlike Saturday morning relaxation instance,
55:19SPEAKERbut just the workday I need to caffeinate in bulk.
55:26SPEAKER- Nescafe is there for you.
55:28SPEAKER- I'm not gonna tell you what my coffee budget is
55:30SPEAKER'cause it's not great, but like generally speaking,
55:34SPEAKERI make the same coffee every day and it's a way,
55:37SPEAKERit's a bright point in my otherwise darkest days.
55:42SPEAKERIt's fantastic.
55:43SPEAKER- Yeah, I get it.
55:45SPEAKERAll right, Andrew.
55:46SPEAKERI backed the Electronic Gaming Monthly Compendium Kickstarter
55:49SPEAKERa while ago and it seems like the physical book
55:51SPEAKERis in the home stretch of production.
55:54SPEAKERI got hit with a ton of warm fuzzies,
55:55SPEAKERespecially since I love when you two flip
55:57SPEAKERthrough old magazines on the show.
55:59SPEAKERSeeing those old EGM month, I'm sorry,
56:02SPEAKERseeing those old EGM covers I hadn't thought about in years
56:05SPEAKERgot me wondering how you feel about projects like this.
56:09SPEAKERWould you ever want to see a compendium of your own work,
56:11SPEAKERa maximum PC compendium?
56:14SPEAKERDoes that feel weird to think about for you guys
56:16SPEAKERand that will probably never make physical archives
56:18SPEAKERof things that were only ever digital goods?
56:21SPEAKER- I so wish when we started,
56:24SPEAKERso I would love to see a maximum PC compendium.
56:26SPEAKERI have no interest in making it myself.
56:28SPEAKERI don't have the rights to it.
56:29SPEAKERI don't own the content.
56:30SPEAKERI don't really want to work for future again.
56:32SPEAKER- And then also to the point of this question,
56:35SPEAKERthe real question here is,
56:36SPEAKERdoes anybody still have the content?
56:39SPEAKERLike, does it even exist in a way that you could archive
56:41SPEAKEReven if you were willing to do it?
56:43SPEAKER- The PDF archives that I posted on archive.org
56:46SPEAKERor like the first issue through like 2010
56:51SPEAKERare pretty good, 2012 are there.
56:54SPEAKERThey're not like 300 DPI print quality,
56:56SPEAKERbut they're good enough for a compendium I think.
56:58SPEAKER- I guess when it was a print good in the first place,
57:02SPEAKERthere was probably enough of a tidy enough archive format
57:06SPEAKERthat it was much easier to back up.
57:07SPEAKERLike in the case of web only, digital only stuff,
57:10SPEAKERlike that stuff is so diffuse and non-standard
57:14SPEAKERand web backups were so nascent
57:16SPEAKERand like kind of primitive back then
57:19SPEAKERthat like a lot of that content is kind of just gone.
57:21SPEAKER- So one of the things I pitched when we were coming up
57:23SPEAKERwith the Whiskey Media pass in like 2010
57:29SPEAKERat Giant Bomb and Tested
57:31SPEAKERwas that we should do a printed yearbook every year
57:34SPEAKERof like the best of Giant Bomb, the best of Tested,
57:36SPEAKERthe best of Screen, the best of Anime Vice
57:38SPEAKERand put it in a big bound coffee table book
57:41SPEAKERand just post our, you know.
57:43SPEAKER- That's fun.
57:44SPEAKER- I wish we had done that.
57:45SPEAKERI think it would have been incredibly stupid.
57:46SPEAKERIt was really expensive.
57:47SPEAKERSo we didn't explore it further,
57:50SPEAKERbut I would love to see like your book.
57:55SPEAKERLike, do you remember seeing like Boy's Life,
57:58SPEAKERlike a lot of magazines in the 80s at the end of the year,
58:01SPEAKERthey'd be like, hey, you can get a year,
58:03SPEAKERa bound annual compendium version of our magazine
58:08SPEAKERfor like, you know, extra 30 bucks or 20 bucks or whatever.
58:12SPEAKER- No, I don't think I ever saw that.
58:13SPEAKERAnd I would love to bring that idea back for websites.
58:15SPEAKERI think that's really cool.
58:16SPEAKERIt's a, it reminds me of what,
58:18SPEAKERI think Campo Santo did the annual report every year
58:22SPEAKERwhere they would do like, hey,
58:24SPEAKERhere's how our stuff is going
58:25SPEAKERwhen they were building Firewatch
58:26SPEAKERand they'd pay somebody to write like a whole,
58:29SPEAKERlike here's what we thought was interesting.
58:31SPEAKERHere's what we learned.
58:32SPEAKERHere's the stuff we were excited about,
58:34SPEAKERblah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
58:36SPEAKERThat's really good. - That's great, yeah.
58:37SPEAKERI think the biggest problem with a lot of this stuff
58:39SPEAKERis that like this sort of archival stuff
58:41SPEAKERrequires somebody to be forward-thinking enough
58:43SPEAKERin the moment to make sure that it's all preserved.
58:46SPEAKERAnd my universal experience is that people
58:49SPEAKERare just too busy doing the thing in the first place
58:52SPEAKERto actually take on extra work and have the foresight
58:55SPEAKERto also do the archiving stuff on the backend
58:58SPEAKERwhile they're doing it.
58:59SPEAKER- You have to make a concerted dedicated effort
59:02SPEAKERif you want to, like you, like,
59:03SPEAKERit's like the Video Game History Foundation
59:05SPEAKERhas a librarian whose job it is to like think about ways
59:09SPEAKERto preserve things and present them in interesting ways
59:11SPEAKERand stuff like that.
59:12SPEAKERAnd you have to make that kind of effort,
59:13SPEAKERwhich costs a lot of money.
59:14SPEAKER- Yes.
59:15SPEAKERI've never been super big on like coffee table books
59:17SPEAKERand compendiums, but a kind friend gifted me a spare copy
59:21SPEAKERof that Art of Atari book from like 10 years ago recently.
59:25SPEAKERI'll make an exception for that
59:26SPEAKERbecause that Atari art is so rad.
59:28SPEAKER- Is it like the cartridge cover art, the paintings?
59:31SPEAKEROh yeah, it's rad.
59:32SPEAKER- It's basically full of profiles of the artists
59:34SPEAKERwho did the paintings for all those things.
59:36SPEAKER- Super full.
59:37SPEAKER- Bunch of like full color, full page,
59:39SPEAKERprintings of those covers.
59:41SPEAKER- Brad, I'm gonna tell you last night,
59:42SPEAKERI downloaded a bunch of 60s and 50s and 70s era paintings
59:48SPEAKERof O'Neill cylinders and NASA habitats from the NASA,
59:52SPEAKERfrom the Goddard site for wallpaper purposes.
59:55SPEAKERAnd it's pretty good.
59:56SPEAKER- Is that a government site?
59:57SPEAKER- Government site.
59:59SPEAKER- I should probably also go download that stuff
1:00:00SPEAKERwhile it's still there.
1:00:01SPEAKER- Yeah, well, they are well-archived, I will say.
1:00:05SPEAKER- Okay, all right, I should go get in on that too.
1:00:07SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:00:08SPEAKER- I had a weird moment when we did that news roundup
1:00:13SPEAKERa few weeks ago that had the SIM card farm story in it.
1:00:17SPEAKERI ended up on the US Secret Services press site
1:00:21SPEAKERwhen I was putting the episode together and needed art,
1:00:23SPEAKERor not art, but photos of all the banks of SIM cards.
1:00:27SPEAKERAnd they straight up, there was their press release
1:00:30SPEAKERwith all of their photos attached to it.
1:00:32SPEAKERSome of the photos were like mega, mega high res.
1:00:34SPEAKERSome of them were terrible,
1:00:37SPEAKERbut those were the official photo releases
1:00:39SPEAKERfrom the Secret Service.
1:00:40SPEAKERSo the photo I wanted to use
1:00:43SPEAKERwas like 300 by 420 or something like that.
1:00:48SPEAKERI was like, that's, come on.
1:00:50SPEAKERYou can take a better photo than that Secret Service?
1:00:52SPEAKER- Look, they shot it with their Razer flip phone, okay?
1:00:54SPEAKER- Maybe.
1:00:55SPEAKER- The thing I liked about the NASA site
1:00:58SPEAKERwas it used the same interface
1:00:59SPEAKERthat they use for the telescope images,
1:01:01SPEAKERwhich are sometimes like crazy high resolution.
1:01:05SPEAKERSo it was like, you can get a small one,
1:01:06SPEAKERyou can get a web one, you get a print ready picture
1:01:09SPEAKERof this watercolor painting from like 1962.
1:01:12SPEAKER- I like when the official images
1:01:14SPEAKERget up into the five digit dimension range.
1:01:16SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:01:17SPEAKER- It's like this image is like 12,000 by 16,000.
1:01:21SPEAKER- I need an array of 5K monitors
1:01:23SPEAKERto see this in its full glory.
1:01:24SPEAKER- Yep.
1:01:25SPEAKER- You wanna do one or two more?
1:01:26SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:01:28SPEAKERAll right, here's one from Sex Tooth.
1:01:30SPEAKER- Oh no.
1:01:32SPEAKER- What's the weirdest or scariest hardware failure
1:01:34SPEAKERyou've ever had on your PC or console?
1:01:37SPEAKERObligatory story.
1:01:38SPEAKERWhen I was about 11 in 1997, 98,
1:01:41SPEAKERwe had gotten a new ultra fast CD-ROM drive 40X, I believe.
1:01:46SPEAKERI decided to try it out with one of my favorite games
1:01:48SPEAKERand the first game I ever played, X-Wing.
1:01:51SPEAKERThe disc was four or five years old at this point
1:01:53SPEAKERand I had played the game a lot in that time,
1:01:55SPEAKERso it had some visible scratches,
1:01:56SPEAKERbut it still worked up to that point.
1:01:58SPEAKERI put the disc in the ultra fast CD-ROM
1:02:00SPEAKERand waited for the game to launch.
1:02:02SPEAKERThe game didn't launch, but the CD drive
1:02:04SPEAKERwas getting louder and louder.
1:02:06SPEAKERFinally, after about one or two minutes,
1:02:08SPEAKERthe drive suddenly opened with no input from me,
1:02:11SPEAKERwith the CD still spinning at a very fast speed.
1:02:16SPEAKERWhen the tray fully opened,
1:02:17SPEAKERthe CD then launched into the air like a helicopter,
1:02:20SPEAKERsix to 12 inches above the CD tray,
1:02:23SPEAKERbefore descending to the basement floor.
1:02:26SPEAKERAs it reached the floor, it was still spinning
1:02:28SPEAKERand started to wobble, so it spun in place
1:02:29SPEAKERfor another 30 seconds or so before it came to a stop.
1:02:33SPEAKERThe CD was unusable after this incident.
1:02:36SPEAKER- Okay, so I marked this because we tried,
1:02:41SPEAKERthere were always reports when the high speed CD-ROMs
1:02:43SPEAKERand optical drives started coming out
1:02:45SPEAKERof like drive discs shattering in the drives.
1:02:48SPEAKERAnd at Maximum PC, of course,
1:02:50SPEAKERour motto there was always be testing.
1:02:52SPEAKERAnd we tried to make that happen by A,
1:02:57SPEAKERfirst taking the most damaged, busted up CDs
1:02:59SPEAKERthat we could find and putting them
1:03:00SPEAKERinto like a 48X CD-ROM drive, and then that didn't work.
1:03:06SPEAKERSo then we started cutting notches out of them
1:03:08SPEAKERwith a Dremel to unbalance them, that also didn't work.
1:03:11SPEAKERSo I'm fascinated to hear another example of this happening,
1:03:16SPEAKERbut yeah, we could not get them to explode,
1:03:19SPEAKERwhich always bummed me out.
1:03:22SPEAKER- I'm trying to visualize how this happens
1:03:25SPEAKERbecause I assume, I guess I've never seen this in action,
1:03:28SPEAKERbut I assume like the motor kind of extends up
1:03:31SPEAKERinto the middle of the CD, right, to spin it,
1:03:32SPEAKERbut then the motor would have to retract
1:03:34SPEAKERbefore the tray could come out, right?
1:03:36SPEAKER- I think my understanding was that usually
1:03:39SPEAKERthe tray kind of exploded out
1:03:41SPEAKERbecause of the rotational force.
1:03:43SPEAKER- I see.
1:03:44SPEAKER- But I don't know, I'm fascinated by this.
1:03:49SPEAKERThe scariest thing I've ever had to happen
1:03:51SPEAKERwas when a power supply blew up
1:03:53SPEAKERand the magic smoke came out and it was a lot.
1:03:56SPEAKER- Oh, a lot and bad.
1:03:59SPEAKERThe worst non-computer one though
1:04:01SPEAKERwas when I was at BattleBots and a robot,
1:04:04SPEAKERwe were interviewing a person who had built a robot
1:04:06SPEAKERand then the lithium ion battery pack caught fire
1:04:08SPEAKERwhile we were doing the interview
1:04:10SPEAKERand we all had to run away from it
1:04:11SPEAKER'cause it was making a bunch of really toxic white smoke.
1:04:14SPEAKER- Yeah, anything involving smoke and fire
1:04:16SPEAKERkind of just by default wins this contest.
1:04:19SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:04:20SPEAKER- I don't think I've ever had anything burn up.
1:04:21SPEAKERI don't have a lot of good stories here.
1:04:24SPEAKERBy the time I had to hot swap that BIOS was pretty scary.
1:04:27SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a terrifying one.
1:04:29SPEAKER- Not a lot though.
1:04:31SPEAKER- The lithium smoke and the robot,
1:04:32SPEAKERlike a big giant lithium battery pack,
1:04:35SPEAKERlike making fire and like being big enough
1:04:39SPEAKERthat they couldn't get enough sand on it to put it out
1:04:42SPEAKERmade a truly terrifying amount of smoke.
1:04:44SPEAKERIf we had been inside a building,
1:04:45SPEAKERit would have filled the entire thing.
1:04:47SPEAKER- Pretty alarming.
1:04:48SPEAKER- Yeah, it's fine that we keep them in our pockets though.
1:04:51SPEAKER- Okay, last email or last discord question rather.
1:04:54SPEAKERI am just now realizing that Care Bearer is cake batter.
1:04:57SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:04:59SPEAKER- Because there's a question here
1:05:00SPEAKERabout a label maker machine.
1:05:02SPEAKER- Oh boy.
1:05:04SPEAKER- But I'm not gonna read that one.
1:05:05SPEAKER- Okay.
1:05:06SPEAKER- I'm gonna read this one instead.
1:05:07SPEAKER- You should get a label maker though, they're really handy.
1:05:09SPEAKER- Should I, do you have one?
1:05:10SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:05:11SPEAKER- Cake batter is big on label makers.
1:05:14SPEAKER- Look, I'm gonna go and tell you,
1:05:15SPEAKERI was pretty meh about label makers
1:05:18SPEAKERand then we went to an Airbnb one time
1:05:21SPEAKERwhere the person who owned the Airbnb
1:05:22SPEAKERhad labeled every cabinet with the things that were in it.
1:05:26SPEAKERIt was really nice.
1:05:28SPEAKER- I can see it.
1:05:29SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:05:29SPEAKER- Sure.
1:05:30SPEAKERAll right.
1:05:32SPEAKERYou ever start budgeting for a closed source system
1:05:34SPEAKERlike PagerDuty and then find out
1:05:36SPEAKERthat Target open source is its own?
1:05:38SPEAKER- What?
1:05:40SPEAKER- And then here is a link.
1:05:40SPEAKERSure enough, yes, Target has a GitHub repo.
1:05:46SPEAKERHere is a link to target/go alert.
1:05:49SPEAKER- Wow.
1:05:50SPEAKER- This is described as open source on-call scheduling,
1:05:53SPEAKERautomated escalations and notifications
1:05:55SPEAKERso you never miss a critical alert.
1:05:58SPEAKERI assume this is what they use in store for employees?
1:06:02SPEAKER- No, I bet this is for their uptime on their storefront.
1:06:06SPEAKER- Oh, for the web store?
1:06:08SPEAKER- For the web store.
1:06:09SPEAKER- Interesting.
1:06:10SPEAKER- Yeah, 500 errors is in the screenshot.
1:06:12SPEAKER- Okay, the mention of PagerDuty made me think
1:06:14SPEAKERthis was something used in physical space
1:06:17SPEAKERfor people out on the floor as well, but maybe not.
1:06:20SPEAKER- PagerDuty is a service for like DevOps people
1:06:24SPEAKERwho are maintained, who are like, yo, the websites.
1:06:27SPEAKERIt's like, you know, when we used to just text Dave
1:06:29SPEAKERwhen the website was down?
1:06:31SPEAKERNow you'd have a PagerDuty service and people turn it,
1:06:33SPEAKERlike it turns on and off automatically
1:06:34SPEAKERand it just buzzes your phone when something breaks.
1:06:38SPEAKER- I love finding unlikely GitHub accounts.
1:06:42SPEAKER- This is fabulous.
1:06:43SPEAKER- Yeah, Target having a GitHub account
1:06:44SPEAKERand posting open source software that they write and use
1:06:47SPEAKERis weird in a fun way.
1:06:49SPEAKERI know there are more than enough problems with Target
1:06:52SPEAKERjust to be clear, but still.
1:06:54SPEAKER- The Slack channel is called gophers.slack.com
1:06:57SPEAKER'cause it's Go alert.
1:06:59SPEAKER- Oh, of course, yes.
1:07:00SPEAKER- They have too many things in their root folder though.
1:07:03SPEAKERYeah.
1:07:04SPEAKER- This is not quite as weird as the time that I found out
1:07:06SPEAKERthat Rivers Cuomo of Weezer has a GitHub account
1:07:08SPEAKERthat he uses fairly regularly.
1:07:09SPEAKER- Wait, what?
1:07:10SPEAKER- Oh, wait, have we never talked about this?
1:07:11SPEAKER- No.
1:07:12SPEAKER- Dude.
1:07:13SPEAKER- Where does he start?
1:07:14SPEAKER- Like Rivers Cuomo's whole internet.
1:07:16SPEAKERSpeaking of like, speaking of consolidated activity profiles
1:07:20SPEAKERabout everything you've ever done online,
1:07:22SPEAKERRivers Cuomo's digital footprint on the internet
1:07:25SPEAKERis weird as hell.
1:07:29SPEAKERLike he writes a bunch of Python code
1:07:30SPEAKERthat he's used on tours somehow.
1:07:33SPEAKERHe runs a discord.
1:07:34SPEAKERIt's one of the weirder discords I have ever seen.
1:07:36SPEAKER- His profile picture is just a picture of old him
1:07:39SPEAKERon a blue background.
1:07:40SPEAKERThat's amazing.
1:07:41SPEAKER- It's the blue album cover
1:07:43SPEAKERwith all the other members of the band
1:07:45SPEAKERcloned stamped out and just him.
1:07:47SPEAKER- He's done 2,900 contributions in the last year.
1:07:51SPEAKER- Yeah, no, he uses his GitHub account quite regularly.
1:07:54SPEAKERHe seems to write a fair amount of code.
1:07:56SPEAKER- His bot is called Quomputer.
1:07:59SPEAKER- Yeah, yes.
1:08:00SPEAKEROh, of course, of course he wrote that himself.
1:08:03SPEAKERYes, he has a weird bot on his discord server
1:08:07SPEAKERand I did not realize he had written it himself.
1:08:09SPEAKER- He, okay, looking at his stars though,
1:08:12SPEAKERthis is the real thing.
1:08:13SPEAKERBackground Downloader, Deep Links Flutter,
1:08:16SPEAKERWhite Box Code GPT,
1:08:20SPEAKERSpotify Astro Transitions.
1:08:22SPEAKERHe does a lot of Spotify API stuff it looks like.
1:08:25SPEAKEROkay, yeah, this is fascinating.
1:08:27SPEAKER- It's weird.
1:08:28SPEAKERIt's weird stuff.
1:08:29SPEAKERTarget having a GitHub repo is not quite as weird as this,
1:08:31SPEAKERbut it's still kind of weird.
1:08:33SPEAKER- Wow.
1:08:34SPEAKER- Microsoft having, you know, Microsoft,
1:08:36SPEAKERyou name it, big tech company having a GitHub repo
1:08:38SPEAKERis like whatever, of course, but Target?
1:08:41SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:08:41SPEAKER- That's a bit strange in kind of fun way.
1:08:44SPEAKER- Whoa, okay.
1:08:46SPEAKER- And on that note.
1:08:47SPEAKER- Yeah, I think this is as good a place as any
1:08:49SPEAKERto wrap it up for the month.
1:08:52SPEAKERIf you have a question,
1:08:52SPEAKERyou can send them to techbot@content.town
1:08:54SPEAKERor if you're in the discord,
1:08:57SPEAKERyou can go to the question seeking answers channel
1:08:59SPEAKERand once there, you can type something in,
1:09:02SPEAKERit's gonna disappear in a minute or two
1:09:04SPEAKERand then we'll see it at the end of the month.
1:09:05SPEAKERBrad is gonna painstakingly copy them,
1:09:07SPEAKERpaste them out while I'm over doing the same
1:09:09SPEAKERon the email side.
1:09:10SPEAKER- Discord, give us an export function.
1:09:12SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't think they care.
1:09:14SPEAKER- They don't.
1:09:15SPEAKER- Yeah, but yeah, it would be great.
1:09:18SPEAKERI mean, the fast mail, I've looked for bots
1:09:21SPEAKERthat'll pull a fast mail folder
1:09:22SPEAKERand turn it into a Word document,
1:09:23SPEAKERbut it turns out it doesn't exist, not a normal use case.
1:09:28SPEAKERBut anyway, if you wanna get in that discord,
1:09:29SPEAKERyou can hang out in there, you can talk to us,
1:09:31SPEAKERyou can talk to everybody else there.
1:09:32SPEAKERIt's a delightful community of folks
1:09:35SPEAKERtalking about nerdy stuff all day long, pretty much,
1:09:38SPEAKERwhether it's audio stuff or Linux stuff
1:09:40SPEAKERor phone stuff or old electronic stuff
1:09:45SPEAKERor old console stuff or emulation stuff,
1:09:48SPEAKERwe got it all in there.
1:09:49SPEAKER- Food stuff, maker stuff.
1:09:51SPEAKER- Yeah, coffee stuff.
1:09:53SPEAKERSo first off, so you go to patreon.com/techbot,
1:09:57SPEAKERit's five bucks a month.
1:09:58SPEAKERYou also get the Patreon exclusive episode
1:10:00SPEAKERwhere we talk about kind of in progress stuff.
1:10:03SPEAKERIt's a, let's see, a less structured chat
1:10:08SPEAKERthat we do once a month.
1:10:09SPEAKERAnd we haven't recorded yet this month
1:10:12SPEAKER'cause this is an early Sunday, early last Sunday.
1:10:15SPEAKERSo who knows what it could be, it could be anything.
1:10:18SPEAKER- I can think of some things it'll probably be.
1:10:20SPEAKER- Okay, Brad has thoughts.
1:10:23SPEAKERI definitely wanna talk about something
1:10:24SPEAKERthat a listener gave us while I was in Escalon
1:10:27SPEAKERa few weeks ago, but anyway.
1:10:29SPEAKER- Yes, yes, that is the number one thing
1:10:31SPEAKERwe have to talk about.
1:10:32SPEAKER- 'Cause it's, anyway, but to be continued,
1:10:35SPEAKERin the meantime, we wanna thank our patrons,
1:10:37SPEAKERstarting with our executive producer tier patrons,
1:10:39SPEAKERincluding James Kamik, David Allen, Twinkle Twinkie,
1:10:43SPEAKERBunny, dot, dot, dot, or maybe that's Bunny Ellipses,
1:10:46SPEAKERJordan Lippett, Andrew Slosky, Infelicitous Rips,
1:10:51SPEAKERJason Lee, and Pantheon,
1:10:52SPEAKERmakers of the HS3 high-speed 3D printer.
1:10:56SPEAKERAnd since it's the end of the month,
1:10:57SPEAKERwe also wanna thank our associate producer tier patrons,
1:10:59SPEAKERincluding Graham Banks, Thomas Shea, Chad Rita,
1:11:03SPEAKERPete Hibbs, Steve Lynn, Tom Fuller, Just Associate Wedge,
1:11:08SPEAKERNathan Phelps, Ben Tolman, Tom Hilton,
1:11:11SPEAKERAndre M. Burke, P.E., Andrew "Dicey" Schuldeis,
1:11:15SPEAKERAlejandro Navarro, Matt Walker,
1:11:17SPEAKERparentheses Walkman8080, Sanchik Kumar, Felix Kramer,
1:11:22SPEAKERKerp, Brutal Kerfuffle, Eric, and Mark Wilhelm.
1:11:26SPEAKERThank you all so much.
1:11:28SPEAKER- Thank you.
1:11:29SPEAKERAnd I guess that'll do it for us this month.
1:11:32SPEAKERThis week also, it's the end of a week,
1:11:34SPEAKERit's the end of the month.
1:11:35SPEAKERBrad, what's your Halloween costume this year?
1:11:36SPEAKERYou got any, you leaving the house?
1:11:39SPEAKER- Probably not.
1:11:40SPEAKER- Okay.
1:11:41SPEAKER- My girlfriend's doing Where's Waldo stuff.
1:11:43SPEAKER- Okay, I like that.
1:11:45SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:11:45SPEAKER- Is she gonna be Waldo or is she gonna be somebody else?
1:11:48SPEAKER- I'm unclear, I think.
1:11:50SPEAKERActually, I did have that idea.
1:11:52SPEAKERI thought it would be funny if people just dressed up
1:11:54SPEAKERlike other Where's Waldo characters, but not the stripes.
1:11:57SPEAKER- That's a really funny idea, like,
1:11:59SPEAKERI have to come up with something for the full nerd.
1:12:01SPEAKERMaybe I'll just be another character
1:12:02SPEAKERfrom a background of a Waldo book.
1:12:04SPEAKER- Because that's just clothes, right?
1:12:06SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:12:07SPEAKER- But it's just outfit.
1:12:09SPEAKER- It has to be distinctive outfit.
1:12:10SPEAKER- Right.
1:12:11SPEAKER- It has to be like nurse or firefighter
1:12:13SPEAKERor something like that, right?
1:12:15SPEAKER- It's nothing outlandish,
1:12:16SPEAKERbut it still has to be a certain thing, you know?
1:12:18SPEAKER- I'm into it.
1:12:21SPEAKERI was thinking about coming to full nerd
1:12:24SPEAKERas Tim Robbins' hot dog man.
1:12:29SPEAKERWe gotta find who did this.
1:12:31SPEAKERAnyway, I don't know, we'll see.
1:12:33SPEAKERWe'll see who knows what I'll be.
1:12:34SPEAKERFind out next Tuesday.
1:12:36SPEAKERBut we'll be back next week
1:12:37SPEAKERwith another episode of The Tech Pod.
1:12:38SPEAKERThanks everybody for listening.
1:12:40SPEAKERAnd please consider the environment
1:12:43SPEAKERbefore printing this podcast.