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2025-10-26 · 1:12:45

00:00SPEAKER- Okay, Brad, I'm breaking precedent.

00:02SPEAKER- Oh, that's what we do here, right?

00:05SPEAKER- Care Bear, look, no laws will contain me,

00:08SPEAKERis what I'm saying.

00:09SPEAKERBut Care Bear suggested we should read the entirety

00:12SPEAKERof this Arizona state law as a cold open.

00:15SPEAKERIt is House Bill 2477, an act amending title 41,

00:20SPEAKERchapter 4.1, article five, Arizona revised statutes

00:24SPEAKERby adding section 41-860.08 relating to state emblems

00:30SPEAKERtexted bill begins on next page.

00:32SPEAKERBe it enacted by the legislature of the state of Arizona,

00:35SPEAKERsection one, title 41, chapter 4.1, article five,

00:38SPEAKERArizona revived statutes is amended by adding section 41-860.08

00:44SPEAKERto read Pluto is the official state planet.

00:48SPEAKER- What? - Period.

00:49SPEAKER- Oh man.

00:50SPEAKER- I think, what's his name?

00:51SPEAKERDiscovered Pluto at Lovell Observatory in Arizona, right?

00:55SPEAKER- Okay, it's one of those state pride things then.

00:58SPEAKERTake my Pluto as a planet from my cold dead hands.

01:01SPEAKER- I guess they don't call it a,

01:02SPEAKERthey could have made it the official dwarf planet

01:04SPEAKERof Arizona. - That's true, that's true.

01:06SPEAKERLike first in dwarf, but you know, like Pluto is what,

01:08SPEAKERninth in planets, but first in dwarf planets.

01:10SPEAKER- Yeah, lord of all dwarf planets.

01:12SPEAKER- Although actually I think one of the many arguments

01:15SPEAKERagainst Pluto's planet hood is that it's not even

01:17SPEAKERthe biggest dwarf planet in the solar system.

01:20SPEAKER- Oh right, 'cause one of the ones in the asteroid belt

01:24SPEAKERis bigger, right?

01:25SPEAKER- Like Eris, is Eris one of them?

01:28SPEAKER- Yes, Eris is the most massive and second largest

01:31SPEAKERknown dwarf planet in the solar system.

01:33SPEAKERI think Ceres in the asteroid belt is also bigger

01:36SPEAKERthan Pluto, I could be wrong about that.

01:39SPEAKER- So.

01:40SPEAKER- Pluto is just kind of mid a lot of ways, frankly.

01:44SPEAKER- Wow, I'm not gonna stand for this Pluto slander.

01:47SPEAKER- What is going on in Arizona?

01:48SPEAKERLike they don't observe daylight savings time,

01:50SPEAKERthey don't observe astrophysical taxonomy

01:54SPEAKERthat is widely agreed upon.

01:55SPEAKER- I think their daylight savings time is a latitude thing

01:59SPEAKERfor them.

02:00SPEAKER- Wait, really?

02:01SPEAKER- Yeah, 'cause--

02:02SPEAKER- Oh, I thought it was just some defiance,

02:03SPEAKERlike some you can't tell us how to tell time thing.

02:05SPEAKERI didn't realize there was like a physical reason.

02:08SPEAKER- I mean, it could be that, but I think it's because

02:10SPEAKERthey're on the west side of the mountain time,

02:13SPEAKERthe summer mornings would start at like four o'clock

02:16SPEAKERin the morning or something there is the argument against it?

02:19SPEAKER- I mean, that is one of the broad arguments

02:21SPEAKERagainst daylight savings is people on the wrong end

02:23SPEAKERof each time zone get screwed badly.

02:26SPEAKER- Look, man, we've done this episode before.

02:27SPEAKERThe point is the time zones need to be diagonal

02:30SPEAKERinstead of latitude lined with lines of longitude, right?

02:33SPEAKER- No, there's a lot of things that were decided

02:35SPEAKERon a long time ago poorly that should probably be different.

02:38SPEAKER- Well, look, we're not gonna fix time zones,

02:41SPEAKERwe're not gonna fix dwarf planets probably.

02:45SPEAKERI don't know, man, I support Arizona.

02:47SPEAKERLook, if they wanna respect the work of Clyde W. Tombaugh,

02:51SPEAKERI salute them.

02:53SPEAKER- Where do you fall on the,

02:54SPEAKERI mean, it's not really a debate anymore.

02:57SPEAKERLike I think this was pretty definitively decided

02:59SPEAKERsome years ago, but.

03:00SPEAKER- Look, we got a children's book about what happened

03:03SPEAKERto Pluto is all I'm saying.

03:04SPEAKER- Wait, really?

03:05SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm a Pluto truther.

03:07SPEAKER- What is the tone of that book?

03:08SPEAKER- The tone of the book is, yo, sometimes things change

03:13SPEAKERand that's okay.

03:14SPEAKER- Okay, but you know, that's probably a good lesson

03:16SPEAKERto impart in a lot of different contexts.

03:18SPEAKER- The subtext of that book though,

03:19SPEAKERis that Pluto totally got raked over.

03:22SPEAKERIt's just a little guy, you know?

03:25SPEAKER(upbeat music)

03:53SPEAKER- Welcome to "Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod."

03:55SPEAKERI'm Will.

03:56SPEAKER- I'm Brad, hello.

03:57SPEAKER- Ahoy, ahoy.

04:00SPEAKERIt is once again, the end of the month.

04:03SPEAKER- True, almost the end of the month.

04:04SPEAKER- And you know what that means?

04:05SPEAKER- Much like ends of time zones don't necessarily line up

04:08SPEAKERexactly with the sunrise and sunset.

04:11SPEAKER- Yeah.

04:12SPEAKER- The last Sunday of the month does not always quite line up

04:14SPEAKERwith the end of the month, but close enough.

04:16SPEAKER- It can be as early as the 26th.

04:18SPEAKERThis is the second earliest Sunday

04:21SPEAKERthat we'll see, second earliest last Sunday

04:24SPEAKERwe'll see this year.

04:25SPEAKER- Did you look up stats on that?

04:27SPEAKER- Well, no, I'm just looking at the dates

04:28SPEAKERand looking at the calendar and like the next,

04:31SPEAKERlike this is the 26th, the Sunday is the first,

04:34SPEAKERthe Saturday is the first.

04:35SPEAKERSo we could have a 25th just theoretically.

04:38SPEAKER- Well, something to look forward to, you know, fun fact.

04:41SPEAKER- Yeah.

04:41SPEAKER- Having the power to fully customize the logic

04:44SPEAKERfor like selecting dates and like first days of months

04:48SPEAKERis one of the many things that drove me away

04:50SPEAKERfrom TrueNAS to just start using Linux on my NAS slash server.

04:55SPEAKER- It turns out like, what are you a Monday

04:58SPEAKERfirst day of the month guy?

04:59SPEAKER- Well, I never like landed on anything specific,

05:02SPEAKERbut like TrueNAS lacks the ability to say like,

05:04SPEAKERhey, I want to schedule this task to run on the first Sunday

05:08SPEAKERof every third month type stuff.

05:10SPEAKER- Oh.

05:11SPEAKER- It has like pretty limited logic for, you know.

05:14SPEAKER- It doesn't have a fully developed crontab.

05:16SPEAKER- More or less, yes.

05:17SPEAKERLike the web UI thing for selecting dates and days

05:21SPEAKERand stuff like that is pretty limited.

05:22SPEAKERAnd I was like, I want to be able to set my tasks

05:24SPEAKERa little more granularly.

05:26SPEAKER- I often think that.

05:26SPEAKER- For backups and scrubs and so forth.

05:30SPEAKER- Yeah, ain't no scrubs, that's what I say.

05:32SPEAKER- That's right.

05:33SPEAKERWhat if I just ran an OS that let me do whatever I wanted

05:35SPEAKERwith the computer?

05:37SPEAKER- Look, I've, look, I've tasted that forbidden fruit now.

05:41SPEAKERI've tasted it on multiple fronts

05:43SPEAKERand I'm gonna go and tell you, it good.

05:45SPEAKERIt good to be able to do whatever you want

05:46SPEAKERwith your computer. - That's right, that's right.

05:48SPEAKER- Corey Doctorow was right, man.

05:50SPEAKER- So it was Kyle Wiens, being able to use the hardware

05:53SPEAKERthat you bought in whatever way you want

05:55SPEAKERis pretty liberating.

05:56SPEAKER- Yeah, do what you want, man, that's what I say.

05:59SPEAKERYou know what I want to do is I want to answer questions.

06:01SPEAKERI want to turn Qs into As, I want to answer questions.

06:03SPEAKERI want to answer emails or electronic mails,

06:07SPEAKERsome people call them.

06:08SPEAKER- We have both here in quantity.

06:10SPEAKER- Yeah, it was a banner crop this month.

06:12SPEAKERI had to be extra selective as I was going through

06:15SPEAKER'cause it was like, we have too many,

06:17SPEAKERwe have too many good emails to answer.

06:19SPEAKER- Discord has, mm.

06:20SPEAKER- Oh no.

06:21SPEAKER- Okay, Discord has changed and added a lot of things lately,

06:24SPEAKERlet's say, but one of those is that copying and pasting

06:28SPEAKERout of the questions channel has gotten worse.

06:30SPEAKERThere's now like 10 lines of like,

06:32SPEAKERI forget what they are exactly, what the terminology is,

06:35SPEAKERbut it's effectively like like and subscribe prompts

06:37SPEAKERthat'll come out for every comment

06:39SPEAKERwhen you copy and paste out of Discord.

06:41SPEAKER- Oh.

06:42SPEAKER- I really wish Discord had like an export channel option.

06:45SPEAKERLike I wish you could just like export like,

06:46SPEAKERhey, just like give me a nice like HTML formatted document

06:50SPEAKERthat is like this range of comments

06:52SPEAKERfrom this Discord channel.

06:53SPEAKER- So I have the same, I had the same thought with Fastmail

06:56SPEAKER'cause like I curate the Fastmail tech pod public facing one

07:00SPEAKER'cause it's like 90%.

07:03SPEAKERHey, I just wanted to see if you're interested

07:04SPEAKERin talking to AI expert, Steve Chadsworth,

07:09SPEAKERa Silicon Valley based venture CEO

07:13SPEAKERwhose AI dog food company is making dog food with AI,

07:18SPEAKERwith the power of AI inside it.

07:20SPEAKERAnd I think he'd be a great,

07:22SPEAKERI know you guys love talking about old hardware

07:23SPEAKERand things like Linux.

07:25SPEAKERSo I thought you'd probably be interested in talking

07:28SPEAKERto Steve about dog food and AI.

07:31SPEAKERSo I delete all those just as they come in.

07:33SPEAKER- Steve Chadsworth of the Silicon Valley Chadsworth.

07:36SPEAKER- Yeah, exactly.

07:37SPEAKERSteve, fire Steve Chadsworth into the sun

07:39SPEAKERas far as I'm concerned.

07:41SPEAKERBut anyway, like I have, but the end result

07:44SPEAKERis I have a nicely curated list of like 20 emails,

07:46SPEAKER30 emails at the end of the month

07:48SPEAKERthat are basically ready to go.

07:49SPEAKERAnd then I have to, like I have to do the indignity

07:52SPEAKERof using the VI hotkeys to switch between them

07:55SPEAKERand select all and copy and paste.

07:57SPEAKER- Don't even get me started.

07:58SPEAKERI've got, listen, first of all,

07:59SPEAKERI am compiling a list of Dual Boot Diaries topics to revisit

08:03SPEAKERas I hear you guys talk about them.

08:04SPEAKERBut like probably the top of the list is my screed

08:07SPEAKERabout, hey, learning VI keys enables you to do

08:11SPEAKERabout 800 other things in Linux,

08:13SPEAKERmuch easier than you currently are doing them.

08:15SPEAKER- I know we talked about having you on as early

08:17SPEAKERas next week, but I think we have to push that back

08:19SPEAKERa little bit.

08:19SPEAKERIt's gonna probably be-

08:21SPEAKER- You're only cheating yourself.

08:23SPEAKER- October, maybe, we'll see.

08:25SPEAKERWe'll see if we can squeeze you in sometime.

08:26SPEAKERIt's a really busy schedule.

08:27SPEAKER- Remember when you were talking about how hard it is

08:29SPEAKERto scroll back in Alacrity or in the crappy other terminal

08:32SPEAKERto find things? - Yes.

08:33SPEAKER- What if you were piping that output into LESS

08:35SPEAKERand then using VIM style keys to just search that output?

08:39SPEAKER- I'm more of a more guy, if I'm being honest.

08:41SPEAKER- All right, that works too.

08:43SPEAKER- But you know what I am not is about putting off

08:45SPEAKERanswering questions.

08:46SPEAKERI think we should just get into it.

08:48SPEAKERIf you have an email or a question,

08:51SPEAKERyou can send emails to techbot@content.town,

08:53SPEAKERor if you're in the Discord, if you're a patron,

08:55SPEAKERwhich we appreciate you, you can go to,

08:58SPEAKERwell, you can go to patreon.com/techbot

09:00SPEAKERto sign up for the Patreon, which we love.

09:03SPEAKERAnd then once you're in the Discord there,

09:04SPEAKERyou can go into the Question Seeking Answers channel

09:07SPEAKERwhere you can just send questions into the void.

09:09SPEAKERPeople do it all day, every day.

09:11SPEAKERJust anytime you have a thought,

09:13SPEAKERlike is Starburst supposed to be Taffy?

09:15SPEAKERThat's a good one to fire in there.

09:16SPEAKERPut that in there, we'll answer that.

09:17SPEAKERThanks, Wild Ralph, for that one.

09:18SPEAKERYes, it is Taffy.

09:19SPEAKERThat's the end of the question.

09:20SPEAKER- Is it a tech-related question?

09:22SPEAKERMaybe, maybe not, but we'll probably answer it anyway.

09:25SPEAKER- Yeah, sure.

09:27SPEAKERYou got one queued up?

09:28SPEAKERHow do you feel about the Starburst Taffy thing

09:30SPEAKERbefore we get further in here?

09:32SPEAKER- I think if Starburst is a little too brick-like

09:35SPEAKERand a little too hard to be, isn't Taffy supposed to be

09:37SPEAKERlike a little stretchy and soft out of the box?

09:39SPEAKER- Do you know how they make Taffy?

09:41SPEAKER- I don't.

09:42SPEAKER- So they take warm, warm sugar candy,

09:45SPEAKERand then they put it on these two things that turn.

09:48SPEAKERIt's like interlocking.

09:50SPEAKERThere's like two things on spinning motors with posts,

09:53SPEAKERand they spin it back and forth.

09:54SPEAKERLooks like a yarn spinner almost.

09:57SPEAKERAnd it stretches it out and aerates it.

09:59SPEAKERAnd I think, I think that they don't put enough,

10:04SPEAKERI don't think they aerate it enough.

10:05SPEAKERI think they should Taffy-ize it more.

10:07SPEAKER- The Starburst you mean?

10:08SPEAKER- Yeah, the Starburst,

10:09SPEAKERbefore they make it into the little squares.

10:12SPEAKER- Starburst, you have to like warm up a little bit.

10:14SPEAKERLike it's just, Starburst will like pull your fillings out.

10:17SPEAKERIt's a little too hard and chewy, I think,

10:19SPEAKERto maybe be Taffy to me, but I don't know.

10:22SPEAKER- I got a hot tip from one of my daughter's friends

10:24SPEAKERthe other day that they like to keep the Starburst

10:27SPEAKERin their front pocket so it gets warm and then eat it.

10:29SPEAKER- Okay.

10:30SPEAKER- And I was like, that is some next level.

10:31SPEAKERThe kids are all right.

10:32SPEAKERThey know what's going on.

10:33SPEAKER- That works, that's physics.

10:35SPEAKER- Yeah.

10:36SPEAKER- All right, speaking of physics, this is not about physics.

10:38SPEAKER- Nailed it.

10:39SPEAKER- I don't have a good answer for this,

10:41SPEAKERbut it's a little chilling

10:43SPEAKERand maybe somebody does listening to this.

10:45SPEAKEREarl from Alaska, I have a ResMed BiPAP.

10:49SPEAKERFirst of all, I looked up what a BiPAP was

10:51SPEAKER'cause I have wondered for a long time.

10:53SPEAKERThe difference is that a CPAP is just constant pressure,

10:56SPEAKERconstant airflow, BiPAP has at least two,

11:00SPEAKERmaybe some have more, but BiPAP has variable.

11:02SPEAKER- Both sucks and blows, right?

11:03SPEAKER- Pressure in and out kind of, but the same general concept.

11:08SPEAKER- For like sleep apnea and stuff like that, right.

11:11SPEAKER- I have a ResMed BiPAP.

11:12SPEAKERI have never given it internet access

11:14SPEAKERnor have I signed up for any plan

11:16SPEAKERor in any way connected it to the internet of things.

11:19SPEAKERI currently have owned it for over seven years,

11:21SPEAKERused it in different countries

11:22SPEAKERand currently live half of the United States

11:24SPEAKERaway from where it was originally purchased.

11:27SPEAKEROkay, here's the kicker.

11:28SPEAKERIf I log into the website provided on a sticker on the side,

11:31SPEAKERthere is a record of every single night of sleep

11:33SPEAKERI've ever had and a rating.

11:35SPEAKER- The machine judges.

11:37SPEAKER- I went to a new sleep doctor

11:38SPEAKERand they were able to pull the exact same information.

11:42SPEAKERHow is this possible?

11:44SPEAKERI'm not on your Patreon,

11:45SPEAKERso I'm not able to ask on your Discord

11:48SPEAKERwhere I'm sure this would be answered in five minutes,

11:51SPEAKERbut I thought it was interesting enough to ask

11:53SPEAKERbecause this is something that's very strange

11:54SPEAKERand I'm genuinely curious

11:55SPEAKERhow many other devices do something like this?

11:58SPEAKER- So I looked this up.

11:59SPEAKERA lot of medical devices do this

12:01SPEAKERand my initial assumption was correct.

12:04SPEAKERSo it has a SIM card and a cellular modem in it.

12:08SPEAKERAnd it also stores data locally on a SD card as a backup

12:14SPEAKERin case you're someplace like it,

12:15SPEAKER'cause you can put it in an airplane mode.

12:18SPEAKERIt has, this device has an airplane mode.

12:20SPEAKERThere's a FAQ on their FAQ page about this,

12:22SPEAKERbut it was kind of buried.

12:23SPEAKERI had to really look for it.

12:25SPEAKERBut yeah, the idea is that the data is really low bandwidth.

12:29SPEAKERThe company that does this is probably buying

12:31SPEAKERa incredibly low access data plan for all of these devices

12:37SPEAKERthat is like, hey, we're gonna send 200 kilobytes a day

12:41SPEAKERor something like that.

12:42SPEAKER- Yeah, I wonder what cellular standard this is even using.

12:45SPEAKER- Well, I mean, it's all, it's LTE for sure.

12:47SPEAKERSo it's-

12:48SPEAKER- Yeah, I guess that's the slowest or cheapest

12:50SPEAKERthat's still available, right?

12:51SPEAKERLike 3G is not even widespread enough

12:52SPEAKERto rely on at this point, right?

12:54SPEAKER- Yeah, no, and it doesn't work internationally

12:56SPEAKER'cause radio spectrums are different.

12:57SPEAKERBut yeah, so it's like,

13:02SPEAKERthere's a lot of medical devices that do this.

13:03SPEAKERLike some insulin pumps and stuff like that even do that.

13:07SPEAKERSo anyway, that was it.

13:08SPEAKERNo mystery, nothing, no devilish technology.

13:11SPEAKER- Okay, I'm actually relieved to hear

13:14SPEAKERthere is a straightforward explanation for that

13:16SPEAKERand not that it's like somehow worming its way

13:18SPEAKERonto your wifi without your knowledge or something.

13:20SPEAKER- Yeah, no, no.

13:21SPEAKERAnd my, so my initial thought was, hey,

13:24SPEAKERmaybe Earl like paired it with his phone seven years ago

13:28SPEAKERand forgot, which doesn't seem to be the case

13:31SPEAKERor there was a cellular connection.

13:33SPEAKERAnd yeah, it's just a cheap cellular connection.

13:35SPEAKER- Should that be more prominently disclosed?

13:37SPEAKERLike, do you think that is,

13:39SPEAKERand is there an ethical consideration here

13:42SPEAKERthat you should let people know more directly that,

13:44SPEAKERhey, this device you're buying

13:45SPEAKERis going to be sending data through the air?

13:48SPEAKER- I didn't, I didn't look at their privacy policy.

13:50SPEAKERMy guess is that this is because this is medical stuff,

13:52SPEAKERit falls under the medical disclosure rules

13:55SPEAKERand you're only allowed to disclose it with your doctor

13:59SPEAKERand stuff like that.

14:02SPEAKERI'm increasingly hinky about having my data places

14:06SPEAKERthat insurance companies can get to it.

14:10SPEAKERBut in this case, I don't, like this is a,

14:13SPEAKERthis is a question about my pay grade, I don't know.

14:16SPEAKER- Yeah, it feels like this.

14:18SPEAKER- We need a medical ethicist.

14:20SPEAKER- Yeah, also the thing I'm about to bring up

14:22SPEAKERis kind of tangential to this, not exactly the same thing,

14:24SPEAKERbut have you been following the situation

14:26SPEAKERwith the Senate race in Maine?

14:28SPEAKER- Oh yeah, the guy who had the Nazi tattoo?

14:31SPEAKER- Yeah, but before that it was a bunch of Reddit posts

14:34SPEAKERand there's a whole conversation brewing now

14:36SPEAKERabout how did they track down his old accounts?

14:38SPEAKERAnd you can do all kinds of like,

14:40SPEAKERlike anybody remotely skilled at using the internet

14:43SPEAKERcan do a lot of manual sort of social media forensics

14:46SPEAKERto track people's stuff down.

14:48SPEAKER- I mean, look-

14:49SPEAKER- But the reason I bring this up in a world

14:52SPEAKERwhere like Palantir is in becoming

14:54SPEAKERan enormously valued company on the stock market and stuff.

14:58SPEAKERLike people are starting to ask questions about like,

15:00SPEAKERwhat kind of like, what kind of consolidated digital profiles

15:04SPEAKERon every human being on the planet exist out there?

15:06SPEAKERLike people are starting to really want to know like,

15:08SPEAKERwhat data has been collected and aggregated on me

15:12SPEAKERin a way that-

15:14SPEAKER- There's a lot.

15:15SPEAKER- Right, I mean, I guess the thing that's new,

15:17SPEAKERlike the data collection has been going on for as long

15:19SPEAKERas it could be collected, right?

15:21SPEAKERBut I guess the thing that's new is the kind of aggregation

15:25SPEAKERand merging and forming of like a kind of, like I said,

15:29SPEAKERkind of a coherent profile.

15:31SPEAKER- I mean, we've known for two and a half decades

15:34SPEAKERat this point that if you have somebody's age

15:36SPEAKERand their zip code, you can pretty much identify them.

15:38SPEAKER- Yeah.

15:40SPEAKER- The difference now, it's funny,

15:42SPEAKERI'm reading something about this right now

15:44SPEAKERthat I don't think I can talk about,

15:45SPEAKERbut it's, yeah, there's real downsides

15:48SPEAKERto making big, deep profiles across the entire internet.

15:52SPEAKERI think, you know, I think as people become more aware

15:57SPEAKERof this, maybe we'll see some right to be forgotten rules

15:59SPEAKERlike they have in Europe and stuff like that.

16:01SPEAKERBut even then, even though the EU rules are pretty good,

16:04SPEAKERI don't think they go far enough in a lot of cases.

16:07SPEAKERLike there was a thread on Blue Sky this morning

16:09SPEAKERfrom somebody who isn't on Facebook,

16:11SPEAKERdoesn't use meta properties,

16:13SPEAKERand realized that because one of their friends

16:16SPEAKERor loved ones uploaded their contact list to Facebook

16:20SPEAKERwhen they were finding their friends,

16:22SPEAKERthey now are in the, like Facebook now knows who they are

16:27SPEAKERand can tie their dark profile to their phone number

16:31SPEAKERand stuff like that, which is icky.

16:33SPEAKER- It's like fighting entropy.

16:34SPEAKERThere's no winning.

16:35SPEAKER- I mean, look, this is why you moved to a cabin

16:38SPEAKERin the woods and just get off the internet entirely, Brad.

16:40SPEAKER- Yep, except for your ResMed BiPAP.

16:43SPEAKER- The other thing I'm gonna say though,

16:45SPEAKERis if you wanna get politicians who guarantee,

16:48SPEAKERlike you know exactly how they've stood on things

16:50SPEAKERfor a long time, you gotta get podcasters

16:53SPEAKERwho've been doing this for a really long time,

16:55SPEAKERwho just talk into mics until they run out of things to say,

16:58SPEAKERand then you'll know if they're Nazis,

16:59SPEAKER'cause like I guarantee you, I can assure you,

17:03SPEAKERyou can go back as far as you want in my history,

17:05SPEAKERno Nazi tattoos and no questionable posts about, you know,

17:10SPEAKERfascist bullshit, so anyway.

17:14SPEAKER- All right.

17:14SPEAKER- Don't elect that guy also, there's better people in Maine.

17:18SPEAKERSorry, Bernie.

17:19SPEAKER- Wait, Bernie is in Vermont.

17:20SPEAKER- Bernie is defending that guy.

17:23SPEAKER- Oh, oh, I see.

17:24SPEAKER- He's like, he's better now, I don't care.

17:27SPEAKER- All right, next email from Eric.

17:29SPEAKERI would politely disagree with Will's assertion

17:31SPEAKERthat McMaster Car is a great place to buy stuff from.

17:34SPEAKERI work for a company that places orders with McMaster Car,

17:37SPEAKERand it's absolutely not for the reason

17:39SPEAKERthat they are the cheapest or best placed by the item.

17:42SPEAKERTheir strength is in their vast in-stock inventory

17:44SPEAKERand that most orders can be shipped out the same day.

17:47SPEAKERThe price for items on McMaster is often two times or more

17:50SPEAKERthe price for the exact same item

17:52SPEAKERfrom the original manufacturer.

17:54SPEAKERThat is not to say that McMaster Car

17:55SPEAKERisn't a great place to order from,

17:57SPEAKERbut I would argue that only applies to businesses

17:59SPEAKERor someone deep into a maker hobby.

18:02SPEAKERThey also have great customer service,

18:04SPEAKERbut again, only when you have an account with them

18:05SPEAKERthat spends thousands of dollars a month.

18:08SPEAKERIf you want convenience, fast shipping,

18:10SPEAKERand somewhere you can order everything you need

18:11SPEAKERfor your lab, shop, garage, et cetera in one place,

18:14SPEAKERMcMaster is great, but as an individual consumer

18:17SPEAKERbuying a small quantity, McMaster is much more expensive

18:20SPEAKERand not worth it, all my opinion, of course.

18:23SPEAKER- So I disagree heartily here

18:25SPEAKERbecause I think if you're buying stuff for a shop

18:28SPEAKERand you're buying a bazillion of something,

18:29SPEAKERyes, absolutely right.

18:31SPEAKERYou should buy it from the main source

18:32SPEAKERand pay the retail price.

18:35SPEAKERI think if you're buying something that you need three of

18:38SPEAKERfor a hobby, like if I'm buying a linear bearing,

18:42SPEAKERwhich I'm gonna have a hard time finding a source for,

18:45SPEAKERlinear bearing's a tube that has balls in it

18:48SPEAKERthat you can put a metal shaft through

18:50SPEAKERand the shaft will slide back and forth,

18:53SPEAKERI can get one for 25 bucks here, right?

18:56SPEAKERAnd yeah, that's a huge markup over the manufacturer price,

18:59SPEAKERbut they only make me buy one at McMaster Car

19:02SPEAKERand if I buy it from the manufacturer,

19:03SPEAKERI'm gonna have to buy a hundred.

19:05SPEAKERSo I think for hobby, like when we talk about stuff here,

19:08SPEAKERwe're talking about for hobbyists

19:09SPEAKERand for people who are futzing around with stuff,

19:12SPEAKERwe're not talking about to outfit your shop.

19:15SPEAKERLike you're absolutely, like if you're making a product

19:18SPEAKERthat uses linear bearings,

19:19SPEAKERyou're gonna make a hundred thousand of them,

19:21SPEAKERdon't buy it from McMaster Car, 100% agree.

19:24SPEAKER- Yeah, this kind of came up on the Nextlander Podcast

19:28SPEAKERrecently, not about this vendor in particular,

19:29SPEAKERbut this vendor sounds like the classic type of B2B

19:33SPEAKERsort of place that if you're spending your company's money,

19:37SPEAKERyou are happy to go to.

19:39SPEAKERIf you're spending your own money,

19:41SPEAKERyou start to think a little harder about it,

19:42SPEAKERbut like what we were talking about was like the ease

19:46SPEAKERwith which if you are dealing with purchasing

19:48SPEAKERin a corporate environment.

19:50SPEAKER- Well, that's a whole different, yeah.

19:51SPEAKER- You're just like, fuck it, yeah,

19:53SPEAKERof course I'll pay the 2X markup

19:55SPEAKER'cause this is way easier.

19:57SPEAKER- Thanks, yeah.

19:57SPEAKER- They have some white glove service

19:59SPEAKERthat's gonna make it much easier

20:00SPEAKERto just put this order in and get the thing here

20:02SPEAKERbecause I don't care because it's not my money.

20:04SPEAKER- Well, and I mean, Vinny lived the hell

20:06SPEAKERof big company purchasing for a long time,

20:08SPEAKERwhich meant that like there were some vendors

20:11SPEAKERthat just wouldn't fool with the kind of purchasing,

20:14SPEAKERthe PO process that a company as big as CBS Interactive

20:17SPEAKERor something would deal with.

20:18SPEAKER- Or the opposite was true,

20:20SPEAKERCBS wouldn't buy from certain vendor.

20:22SPEAKERThey had preferred vendors

20:23SPEAKERthat they kind of required you to buy from.

20:25SPEAKER- Yeah, but like, so like there's a handful of vendors

20:29SPEAKERthat will deal with small quantities.

20:30SPEAKERMcMaster's car is one.

20:32SPEAKERI wanna say, oh god, I can't remember the name

20:34SPEAKERof the electronics place.

20:35SPEAKERWell, the electronics stuff has been largely supplanted

20:37SPEAKERby companies that cater specifically to makers

20:43SPEAKERand the kind of quantities that they're interested in,

20:45SPEAKERso people are doing one-off projects.

20:47SPEAKERSo like Adafruit, you can buy a bunch of controllers

20:49SPEAKERand like all of, if you think about all of the little bits

20:52SPEAKERand bobs that are on every circuit board ever,

20:56SPEAKERit's like if you wanna buy those

20:58SPEAKERfrom a real electronics supply company,

21:00SPEAKERyou're gonna have to buy 10,000

21:01SPEAKERof each of those little MOSFETs and transistors and stuff.

21:04SPEAKERBut if I'm just doing a one circuit board

21:06SPEAKERfor a project I'm working on, I need three of them.

21:08SPEAKERSo I'm gonna buy them from Adafruit

21:10SPEAKERand I'm gonna pay a huge premium

21:11SPEAKERto not have to buy 1,000 of them, and that's fine.

21:14SPEAKERSo I don't wanna have to store 1,000 of them.

21:15SPEAKERI'm never gonna use 1,000 of them.

21:17SPEAKERThey're just gonna be a problem for my kid

21:18SPEAKERto get rid of when I croak.

21:19SPEAKERSo. - Yikes.

21:21SPEAKER- What, I mean, it's like, look, real talk.

21:24SPEAKER- I went to a dark place?

21:25SPEAKER- Look, time is ineffable, Brad.

21:27SPEAKERWe're all gonna die eventually, it's fine.

21:31SPEAKER- Hopefully not for a while, though.

21:32SPEAKER- Hopefully not for a while.

21:33SPEAKER- I don't know how long you're planning

21:34SPEAKERto keep all that stuff.

21:36SPEAKER- I'm not gonna use, look, if I do every project

21:39SPEAKERI ever wanna have, I'm never gonna use 1,000 MOSFETs

21:42SPEAKERin the next 50 years.

21:43SPEAKER- Fair, you're right.

21:44SPEAKERI've got a whole drawer full of little vinyl standoffs

21:47SPEAKERthat I needed four of. - Yep.

21:49SPEAKER- And not 300.

21:51SPEAKER- The other day I was cleaning out a drawer in here

21:54SPEAKERand I was like, oh wow, yeah, I had to buy a bag

21:56SPEAKERof 350 vinyl screws for a thing I was doing.

22:00SPEAKERAnd did I need 350 vinyl screws?

22:02SPEAKERI'm never gonna use them.

22:03SPEAKERSo I threw out 200 of them and I kept 100,

22:06SPEAKERand that's still more than I'm ever gonna need.

22:08SPEAKER- Yep, yep.

22:10SPEAKERQuestion from Tim.

22:12SPEAKERWould you guys ever consider using one of the AI type

22:15SPEAKERand note taker apps while you record the podcast

22:17SPEAKERto make it easier to go back

22:18SPEAKERand create more fleshed out show notes?

22:21SPEAKERLike a lot of people, I listen on the go

22:22SPEAKERand making notes for myself of what to go back

22:24SPEAKERand pursue is difficult.

22:26SPEAKERThe one that consistently catches me

22:27SPEAKERis when you're talking about some cool product,

22:29SPEAKERbut it's not until later in the discussion

22:31SPEAKERthat I realize I need that,

22:33SPEAKERbut I haven't taken note of the specific name

22:34SPEAKERof the product, which was probably only mentioned

22:37SPEAKERin full at the start of the segment.

22:40SPEAKER- So I've looked at this before.

22:43SPEAKERWell, first off, Juliette in the Discord

22:46SPEAKERdid transcripts of course for a while

22:48SPEAKERwith one of the early AI transcriber tools.

22:52SPEAKERI believe it was one of the AI transcriber tools,

22:55SPEAKERwhich just to be clear, this is one of those places

22:57SPEAKERwhere I feel like, A, it's not generative AI,

23:01SPEAKERit's just doing voice transcription, which feels okay to me.

23:04SPEAKER- Yeah, it's kind of, it's in that DLSS vein

23:07SPEAKERof taking an input and doing something with it.

23:12SPEAKER- I've tried a couple of different tools.

23:14SPEAKERI put this in 'cause I would love feedback

23:16SPEAKERfrom the community.

23:17SPEAKERI've tried multiple tools, including,

23:20SPEAKERlike I've used Whisper, which is, I want to say,

23:22SPEAKERMeta's big LLM for audio transcription.

23:27SPEAKERI can't remember.

23:27SPEAKER- I don't think Whisper came out of Meta,

23:30SPEAKERbut you might be right.

23:30SPEAKER- I tried Whisper, I tried Meta's LLM

23:33SPEAKERfor audio transcription.

23:36SPEAKERI think Google has one too,

23:37SPEAKERthat's been the one that they use for YouTube.

23:40SPEAKER- Whisper is open AI.

23:41SPEAKER- Whisper's open AI.

23:42SPEAKER- But yeah, I'm sure every major entity has a text,

23:46SPEAKERlike speech-to-text transcription

23:47SPEAKERis about the most classic example of this.

23:49SPEAKERYou can think of.

23:51SPEAKER- So it was relatively easy for me to generate a transcript

23:54SPEAKERfrom each of our stubs or for both of us together.

24:00SPEAKER- Yeah.

24:00SPEAKER- The thing that's challenging is, and it sounds stupid,

24:04SPEAKERbut getting time codes that would let me merge it

24:07SPEAKERinto a machine readable format

24:09SPEAKERso that I take Brad's transcript and my transcript

24:12SPEAKERand merge them with Brad and Will in front of them

24:15SPEAKERin a human readable way

24:16SPEAKERthat doesn't require a ton of editing.

24:19SPEAKERSo if anybody has recommendations for tools

24:21SPEAKERthat'll do that, I'm happy to investigate

24:23SPEAKERand I will happily do the time to put those up every week

24:27SPEAKERbecause I would like, I feel bad.

24:30SPEAKERLike we've done transcripts off and on.

24:33SPEAKERWe stopped either because the quality of them

24:35SPEAKERwas really bad and unlegible

24:37SPEAKERor they were taking an incredible amount of work

24:42SPEAKERand I would love to bring them back.

24:44SPEAKERSo if people have suggestions, things that they've used,

24:46SPEAKERthings that they know about,

24:48SPEAKERplease send them in to techpod@content.town

24:50SPEAKERand I will take a look.

24:51SPEAKER- Yeah, my feeling generally is that the output of AI

24:53SPEAKERis untrustworthy enough that it would probably be

24:57SPEAKERalmost as much work to conduct oversight

24:59SPEAKERon what it was spitting out as it would be

25:00SPEAKERto just do the notes ourselves.

25:02SPEAKER- So the thing, but for notes, yes.

25:05SPEAKERFor transcriptions, no, 'cause then at least

25:06SPEAKERthe transcriptions you have a searchable output.

25:08SPEAKER- That's a different conversation.

25:10SPEAKER- Yeah, like I--

25:12SPEAKER- Notes or summaries require a level of processing

25:15SPEAKERthat straight transcription does not, you know, like that.

25:17SPEAKERYou're just turning words into text.

25:19SPEAKERIn the latter case, you're actually like hashing

25:23SPEAKERsome new information in the form of a summary.

25:27SPEAKER- I'm glad you circled back to that.

25:28SPEAKERI don't like the notes apps.

25:30SPEAKERI find they are absolutely right there, unreliable.

25:33SPEAKER- Right, right, that is potential for the model

25:35SPEAKERto then hallucinate meaning or information

25:37SPEAKERthat was not actually there.

25:39SPEAKER- Especially given that we talk about stuff

25:40SPEAKERthat they don't know about.

25:41SPEAKER- Right, and that's where the required oversight

25:44SPEAKERon our part comes in and at that point

25:45SPEAKERit's better to just do it ourselves probably.

25:47SPEAKER- But the transcription would let you search

25:49SPEAKERfor the whole thing, which I do think it has value.

25:53SPEAKER- Yeah, I try to put links for most everything

25:55SPEAKERwe talk about that seem actionable into the show notes,

25:58SPEAKERbut sometimes stuff slips through the cracks.

26:02SPEAKERA very quick one, Brian wrote in asking for a reminder,

26:05SPEAKERspeaking like speak of the devil.

26:07SPEAKER- Yeah.

26:08SPEAKER- Brian asked for a reminder on the earbud attachments

26:10SPEAKERthat you like, although I think you maybe

26:11SPEAKERhave an update there.

26:13SPEAKER- Yeah, so I've been buying Comply phone tips

26:15SPEAKERfor years, they don't last as long as I would like.

26:19SPEAKERI get a three pack and they last about,

26:21SPEAKERlooking at my Amazon history, about a year and a half

26:23SPEAKERor two years, and that's with daily use for their pod pros.

26:29SPEAKERA couple people wrote in, I think including Mike B.

26:33SPEAKERI think recommended SpinFit medical grade silicone tips.

26:37SPEAKERSo they use a higher, less kind of reactive,

26:41SPEAKERless irritating grade of silicone.

26:44SPEAKER- Than Apple?

26:45SPEAKER- Than Apple.

26:46SPEAKER- And higher grade than Apple?

26:48SPEAKER- The Apple ones aren't medical grade, so they can,

26:51SPEAKERlook, when I use the Apple of silicone ear tips

26:53SPEAKERin my ears, they make my ears kind of ooky and gross,

26:57SPEAKERit's not good.

26:58SPEAKER- Thought they were supposed to be the Rolex

27:00SPEAKERof technology companies.

27:01SPEAKER- Well, I mean, look, there's always something nicer.

27:04SPEAKERSo the SpinFits are 16 or 17 bucks.

27:06SPEAKERIt's for one set of tips.

27:08SPEAKERThe complies come in a three pack,

27:11SPEAKERbut the SpinFits are supposed to last for much longer.

27:15SPEAKERAnd I was curious, so I ordered a pair

27:17SPEAKERand I'll let you know how they are in a few weeks.

27:19SPEAKERThey get here on Saturday, I think.

27:21SPEAKER- Great.

27:23SPEAKER- So yeah, that's that.

27:25SPEAKERBut the complies, the thing I like about the complies

27:27SPEAKERis because they're foam, they seal better

27:30SPEAKERand they are actually much more comfortable.

27:31SPEAKERSo you get a better experience, I think.

27:35SPEAKER- Cool.

27:36SPEAKERI'm gonna juke down to the Discord queues

27:39SPEAKER'cause we've got a ton of those.

27:40SPEAKER- Okay.

27:41SPEAKER- Dondo, I'm not sure we quite have enough information here

27:44SPEAKERto fully address this question,

27:45SPEAKERbut it's an interesting question.

27:46SPEAKERI bought a 20 volt charger for a device.

27:50SPEAKERWhat are the chances that plugging the charger into my wall

27:52SPEAKERplants a virus into my network

27:54SPEAKERor steals personal information?

27:55SPEAKERI'm gonna say pretty, without knowing the brand

27:58SPEAKERof the charger or the device you're trying to charge,

27:59SPEAKERI'm gonna say pretty low.

28:01SPEAKER- I think plugging something into your electrical network

28:04SPEAKERis probably safe.

28:05SPEAKER- Unless you're running powerline networking,

28:07SPEAKERI'm going to say you probably,

28:09SPEAKERthere probably is no route from your wall outlet

28:12SPEAKERinto your LAN, if that's what you're asking.

28:15SPEAKER- If you're running powerline networking

28:17SPEAKERand you're not being attacked by a nation state

28:19SPEAKERor some dedicated entity that's trying to get to you

28:21SPEAKERspecifically, you're probably fine.

28:23SPEAKERAnd also if you're in that situation,

28:25SPEAKERdon't run powerline networking.

28:26SPEAKER- Yep, yep.

28:27SPEAKERAnd practice good wifi security.

28:29SPEAKER- Yeah, or just don't use wifi.

28:31SPEAKER- That also is an option, I suppose.

28:33SPEAKER- Yeah.

28:34SPEAKER- Electricity, it turns out pretty safe.

28:37SPEAKER- This is a good question from Poochie D1.

28:39SPEAKER"I just bought a new car and it came with a lot of paperwork,

28:42SPEAKER"sales agreements, warranty information,

28:44SPEAKER"insurance information, et cetera.

28:45SPEAKER"And I started thinking, should I digitize all this

28:48SPEAKER"just in case?

28:50SPEAKER"The effort of doing it seems overwhelming,

28:51SPEAKER"especially because I'd be scanning with my phone.

28:54SPEAKER"Is it worth it?

28:55SPEAKER"Do you do this?"

28:57SPEAKER- I just had to send my car lease to the techs,

28:59SPEAKERto the accountants.

29:03SPEAKERSo it turns out it comes up sometimes, I don't know.

29:06SPEAKER- Yeah, I kind of am doing this

29:08SPEAKERfor just about everything now.

29:10SPEAKER- Are you keeping paper versions still?

29:12SPEAKER- I typically, I'm trying to think of an example

29:14SPEAKERwhere I have kept a paper version.

29:16SPEAKERI was gonna say like, if it was something

29:18SPEAKERlike insanely important, like a birth certificate

29:20SPEAKERor something, I would probably.

29:21SPEAKERBut by and large, just about everything,

29:23SPEAKERI turned into a PDF with my phone and then shred.

29:27SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm increasingly on team,

29:30SPEAKERlet's get rid of all the paper.

29:31SPEAKER- Yeah, keeping stuff around is just kind of a pain.

29:34SPEAKER- Birth certificates you should keep around probably.

29:36SPEAKER- Yes, it's like official documents, definitely for sure.

29:39SPEAKER- Marriage certificates, birth certificates,

29:41SPEAKERstuff like that.

29:42SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm still using Genius Scan on iOS

29:44SPEAKERjust because that's what I started using 15 years ago.

29:47SPEAKER- Oh, I just used the Dropbox scanner at this point.

29:49SPEAKERIt's pretty good.

29:49SPEAKER- What does Dropbox have one too?

29:50SPEAKER- Built into the app.

29:52SPEAKER- Maybe, hmm, maybe I should use that then.

29:56SPEAKERThat's probably, yeah, and like I know the Apple Notes app

29:59SPEAKERon iOS and I'm sure they're Android equivalents

30:02SPEAKERfor all this stuff.

30:02SPEAKER- Yeah, this is one of those places where Genius Scanner

30:05SPEAKERhad a really good idea and implemented it really well

30:07SPEAKERand then it turns out it was pretty easy to do

30:08SPEAKERand everybody did it almost immediately after.

30:10SPEAKER- They got Sherlock'd.

30:12SPEAKER- Yeah, Sherlock'd, exactly.

30:13SPEAKER- There is, there's a self-hosted option

30:17SPEAKERcalled Paperless NGX, I think we've talked about before.

30:19SPEAKER- Okay.

30:20SPEAKER- Have you ever looked at that?

30:21SPEAKER- No, but I like that.

30:22SPEAKER- I don't know that like, like are the Googles of the world

30:25SPEAKERdoing any kind of like document level?

30:28SPEAKERI mean, not obviously Google Docs exists,

30:30SPEAKERbut I'm talking more something for like organize,

30:33SPEAKERlike Google Docs is more for creating documents

30:35SPEAKERand storing them and editing them.

30:36SPEAKERLike I'm thinking more like if you have a bunch of like PDFs

30:39SPEAKERor something, is there anybody commercially

30:42SPEAKERthat is offering any kind of like organization

30:44SPEAKERand storage service?

30:45SPEAKER- Keap kind of does that, but no, I think the idea

30:48SPEAKERis you just chuck those PDFs

30:49SPEAKERinto your online storage folders.

30:51SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I guess it probably indexes them.

30:53SPEAKERI guess you can search them, but like that's what Paperless

30:55SPEAKERis basically a way to, I haven't looked into it too much,

31:00SPEAKERbut it's a way to store all of your documents

31:02SPEAKERfor safekeeping and indexing and searching and everything.

31:06SPEAKERLike it kind of, if I understand correctly,

31:08SPEAKERit stores the original documents that you give it,

31:10SPEAKERbut it also kind of hashes new versions that are

31:12SPEAKER- Oh, that's nice.

31:13SPEAKER- more easily indexed and it's kind of searching capacity.

31:17SPEAKERAnyway, it seems like a potentially a nice way

31:19SPEAKERif you were to read PDFs of every document you have

31:23SPEAKERthat was important to maybe store them in one place

31:25SPEAKERand make them searchable and stuff.

31:27SPEAKER- Cool.

31:28SPEAKER- It is a lot of work though.

31:29SPEAKER- It is a buttload of work for like,

31:31SPEAKER- You're not wrong.

31:31SPEAKER- Like the thing, honestly, I think if I was gonna do that,

31:33SPEAKERI'd want a document, a sheet pad, like a document scanner

31:37SPEAKERwith a loader to just dump everything on

31:39SPEAKERand then come back when it's jammed or done.

31:41SPEAKER- It would really be nice to be able to just feed,

31:43SPEAKERof course, if you're putting a giant stack in there,

31:45SPEAKERthen you have to go in and tell it which pages go

31:47SPEAKERwith which documents, like that is some work as well.

31:49SPEAKER- No, I want the machine to just do that.

31:51SPEAKER- Yeah, okay, all right, sounds like a job for AI.

31:54SPEAKER- Yeah, oh, oh, nevermind, I'm good.

31:57SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway, I think there is definitely something

32:00SPEAKERto this if you're willing to put in some work,

32:01SPEAKERbut it really depends on your tolerance

32:03SPEAKERfor having stacks of old papers around.

32:05SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm not sure, I'm, this might be one

32:10SPEAKERwhere the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

32:12SPEAKERIs that the right way to use that one?

32:14SPEAKER- Yes, yes, that's a good metaphor there.

32:17SPEAKER- Yeah.

32:18SPEAKER- Like in my case, I really hate having a bunch

32:20SPEAKERof clutter around and particularly a bunch of papers

32:23SPEAKERthat like having categorized the papers physically

32:26SPEAKERis way worse than having to categorize them

32:28SPEAKERon a hard drive for me.

32:30SPEAKER- Yeah, that's true, I mean, I have a filing cabinet

32:32SPEAKERover here that I just, I pile stuff up on top of

32:35SPEAKERand then about twice a year, I just load up

32:36SPEAKEReverything in their appropriate hanging folders.

32:39SPEAKER- I guess that's, you know, if I have room

32:40SPEAKERfor a filing cabinet, I might have a different opinion

32:42SPEAKERon this subject, but.

32:44SPEAKER- I'd rather just have it be bits on a hard drive.

32:47SPEAKER- Although my parents have, yes, exactly,

32:49SPEAKERmy parents have filing cabinets that have been there

32:51SPEAKERfor 40 years and boy is it a pain moving those things around.

32:54SPEAKER- But they're really heavy

32:55SPEAKERand full of tax returns from 1985.

32:57SPEAKER- They sure are.

32:58SPEAKER- Yeah.

32:59SPEAKER- I support this effort.

33:03SPEAKERMangix, Mangix, Mangix.

33:06SPEAKER- Maginex, Mang-G-X.

33:10SPEAKER- Sure.

33:11SPEAKER- Okay.

33:12SPEAKER- Have LED backlit TVs meaningfully improved since 2020?

33:16SPEAKERI have a mid range TCL Roku TV from that year

33:19SPEAKERand I'm feeling an ish to upgrade.

33:21SPEAKERI'm hesitant on OLED because I stream static content

33:24SPEAKERlike a lo-fi, I don't know what lo-fi is.

33:27SPEAKERYour?

33:28SPEAKER- Music, I think, right?

33:29SPEAKER- Maybe, L-O-W-F-I?

33:33SPEAKER- Probably music with no, like on YouTube would be my guess.

33:37SPEAKERAnd it's just a still image, yeah.

33:41SPEAKER- All right, I'll take that.

33:42SPEAKERAnyway, I'm hesitant on OLED

33:44SPEAKERbecause I stream static content frequently

33:46SPEAKERand it's used in a bright room.

33:48SPEAKERHow do I know I'll actually see an improvement

33:49SPEAKERwith my new TV?

33:50SPEAKERI mostly stream TV with an Apple TV

33:52SPEAKERand occasionally I play PS5 on it.

33:55SPEAKERI'm gonna say yes, LED backlit TVs

33:58SPEAKERhave gotten significantly better since 2020

34:00SPEAKERand it's because that's the time period

34:02SPEAKERwhen mini-LED has gotten much bigger

34:04SPEAKERand started evolving very rapidly.

34:07SPEAKER- Yeah, they've gotten insanely bright too.

34:08SPEAKER- Yes, that is like, that is the advantage

34:11SPEAKERof the mini-LED TVs over OLED is that the brightness

34:13SPEAKERis like there is no comparison in how bright they can get.

34:16SPEAKER- The OLED TVs, they're starting to do stuff

34:18SPEAKERlike have two layers of OLEDs on top of each other

34:22SPEAKERso you get double the brightness out of them,

34:24SPEAKERstuff like that.

34:24SPEAKER- Yeah, like OLEDs are getting brighter,

34:26SPEAKERbut yes, they are having to pull tricks.

34:27SPEAKERMini-LED is the thing where there are like

34:29SPEAKERa bajillion tiny little LED backlights

34:32SPEAKERthat can kind of turn on and off in zones

34:35SPEAKERthat kind of give you not quite the level of contrast

34:40SPEAKERof an OLED, but somewhat close.

34:42SPEAKER- And I don't know, for a while when the mini-LEDs

34:46SPEAKERcame out, the localized background dimming

34:49SPEAKERwas kind of iffy.

34:50SPEAKERI have a, oh God, what's the one that starts with V?

34:55SPEAKERI have a TV from like 2016, 2017

34:58SPEAKERthat had localized dimming that I had to turn off

35:00SPEAKERbecause you can't, like when there's like the titles

35:04SPEAKERat the end of a movie, you just can't read them

35:06SPEAKERbecause it localizes the whole screen dark.

35:08SPEAKER- Right, so it's worth pointing out

35:11SPEAKERthere is an industry distinction

35:13SPEAKERbetween the term local dimming and mini-LED

35:15SPEAKERthat's kind of like if you have

35:18SPEAKERa quote unquote local dimming TV,

35:20SPEAKERthat's sort of the previous like zone based

35:23SPEAKERbacklight control thing on TVs.

35:25SPEAKER- Fewer zones, right?

35:27SPEAKER- Yeah, yes, like way fewer, I guess like,

35:29SPEAKERI mean, I think it's more a difference of degree

35:31SPEAKERrather than kind, it's just mini-LED just started doing

35:34SPEAKERway, way, way more zones that can be turned on and off.

35:37SPEAKERLike on my TV, you can see like,

35:40SPEAKERif you have like a generally dark screen

35:42SPEAKERwith a couple of like really bright elements in it

35:45SPEAKERthat are moving around, you can kind of see the zones

35:48SPEAKERturning on and off, but that's such an infrequent,

35:50SPEAKERlike I like the Xbox UI is a good place to see this

35:53SPEAKERa little spinning throbber in the middle of a dark screen,

35:55SPEAKERyou can kind of see the zones like turning off

35:58SPEAKERand on around that, but it's such an infrequent thing

36:00SPEAKERthat I typically don't notice it at all.

36:03SPEAKERAnd if you look at like kind of year over year improvements

36:09SPEAKERin specific models, like my Hisense is two years old now,

36:13SPEAKERlike I kind of every year they have been putting out

36:14SPEAKERnot just them, but everybody will like,

36:16SPEAKERevery subsequent year's model has like more zones,

36:19SPEAKERmore fine grained control over turning the backlight

36:23SPEAKERon and off.

36:24SPEAKER- Can never have too many zones.

36:26SPEAKER- Like I would probably buy an OLED at this point

36:29SPEAKERif I were to buy a new TV,

36:31SPEAKERbut there are some advantages to mini-LED

36:33SPEAKERlike Sony has gone back to mini-LED.

36:35SPEAKERI don't know if you saw this, it was like kind of a minor.

36:38SPEAKER- Yeah.

36:39SPEAKER- I don't know if controversy is too strong a word,

36:40SPEAKERbut Sony's flagship model was OLED for some number of years

36:44SPEAKERand they have now gone back to mini-LED

36:46SPEAKERas their kind of top ends,

36:48SPEAKERquote unquote, nicest flagship set.

36:50SPEAKERAnd that was kind of a big deal for some people.

36:53SPEAKER- I mean, it depends on what budget you're looking at.

36:54SPEAKERI was helping somebody buy a TV the other day

36:56SPEAKERand we were talking about it and I was like,

36:58SPEAKERlook, if you have a perfect room,

37:00SPEAKEROLED is gonna look incredible, right?

37:02SPEAKERIf you have a nice dark room, OLED is gonna look really good

37:04SPEAKERand you can get a bright enough OLED, it's fine.

37:06SPEAKER- Yeah, like the Samsungs are pretty bright,

37:07SPEAKERalthough they've got some downsides of their own.

37:09SPEAKER- But like, if you, like my room is not perfect,

37:13SPEAKERI would probably buy a bright mini-LED at this point.

37:15SPEAKER- And they're cheaper is the other thing.

37:16SPEAKER- Yeah, that's the other benefit.

37:17SPEAKER- Brighter and cheaper are basically the two advantages.

37:20SPEAKER- I'm looking at the Lo-fi Girl channel

37:22SPEAKERon YouTube right now, Lo-fi Hip Hop Radio,

37:26SPEAKERBeats to Relax/Study To.

37:28SPEAKERStream started on July 12th, 2022,

37:30SPEAKERhas 26,000 people watching it right now.

37:33SPEAKER- Lo-fi Girl is quite popular.

37:35SPEAKER- Lo-fi Girl, and this bops, this is pretty good.

37:37SPEAKER- Yeah, it's not bad.

37:39SPEAKER- We should, this is like music to podcast too, Brad.

37:41SPEAKER- Yep, it sure is.

37:45SPEAKEROh boy.

37:46SPEAKER- Okay.

37:47SPEAKER- We've got a profound instance here

37:48SPEAKERof somebody's Halloween,

37:49SPEAKERsomebody's cutesy Halloween username being unpronounceable.

37:52SPEAKERYou're looking at it, do you wanna take a shot?

37:54SPEAKER- It's aioli.

37:55SPEAKER- Okay, all right, there are a lot of O's in there.

37:58SPEAKER- Yeah, can we do an aside on Halloween names?

38:01SPEAKER- Sure.

38:02SPEAKER- 'Cause I've realized, both on social media and Discord,

38:05SPEAKERwhen people change their user profile pictures

38:07SPEAKERand their names at the same time,

38:10SPEAKERthey basically become a completely different entity to me.

38:13SPEAKER- They cease to exist, well, they don't cease to exist,

38:15SPEAKERbut yes, they become completely anonymous.

38:17SPEAKER- Yeah, it's challenging.

38:18SPEAKER- It's a good way to just hide your identity

38:19SPEAKERfor some period of time.

38:21SPEAKER- We should change.

38:22SPEAKERYou should be Will next year and I should be Brad.

38:24SPEAKER- Oh man, that is diabolical.

38:26SPEAKERI have never considered that before.

38:28SPEAKER- Yeah.

38:29SPEAKER- People just swapping username and profile picture

38:31SPEAKERis pretty fucked up, actually.

38:33SPEAKER- On one of my Discords, everybody made their name

38:36SPEAKERvariations of one of the mod's names,

38:37SPEAKERwhich was really funny for like five minutes,

38:39SPEAKERand then nobody could tell who the mod was.

38:41SPEAKERAnd like, anyway, it was, yeah, whatever.

38:44SPEAKER- Do you ever find yourself making an error on Discord

38:46SPEAKERor social media where like, okay,

38:48SPEAKERI assume you do this as well.

38:49SPEAKERLike your brain gets used to people's profile pictures

38:52SPEAKERenough that you just don't even look at the username anymore

38:55SPEAKERand you just kind of subconsciously assume,

38:56SPEAKERyou know, who you're reading based on seeing out

39:01SPEAKERof the corner of your eye, their profile picture.

39:03SPEAKERAnd like, have you ever gotten like entirely all the way

39:05SPEAKERthrough somebody's post and realized it was somebody else

39:07SPEAKERother than who you thought it was?

39:08SPEAKER- 100%, yeah.

39:09SPEAKER- Because their profile picture looks enough

39:11SPEAKERlike somebody else's.

39:13SPEAKER- Sometimes it's just, they change the background color.

39:15SPEAKERSo it's like orange blob on black is one person

39:17SPEAKERand orange blob on white is a different person.

39:19SPEAKER- Right.

39:22SPEAKERSocial media is probably bad for the brain.

39:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

39:25SPEAKERSo anyway, Aoli asked, if an entirely new novel

39:28SPEAKERand fresh OS was to hit the market for computers

39:31SPEAKERand or phones, what would you want to see

39:34SPEAKERin terms of features, designs, et cetera?

39:36SPEAKERNot a new version of Windows or a new distro of Linux

39:38SPEAKERor similar, but a brand new novel OS.

39:42SPEAKER- This is a really, I don't have a good answer for this.

39:44SPEAKERThis is an extremely hard question to answer,

39:46SPEAKERbut it's interesting.

39:47SPEAKER- I looked at this and you had highlighted it

39:49SPEAKERand I was like, we should just do a whole episode

39:50SPEAKERabout this 'cause this is a fun question.

39:52SPEAKER- Yeah, like I think this is gonna take like weeks

39:54SPEAKERof spitballing, brainstorming, like just kind

39:58SPEAKERof generally thinking about the topic

39:59SPEAKERof what should a new operating system do?

40:01SPEAKER- Well, so I will say part of this is informed

40:05SPEAKERby my experimenting with tiling OSs,

40:08SPEAKERtiling window managers on Linux and stuff like that

40:11SPEAKERand thinking about different novel ways

40:14SPEAKERto interact with software rather than,

40:17SPEAKERhey, we have Windows, you can move around the screen.

40:21SPEAKERAnd I had previously kind of thought about that

40:24SPEAKERas a limiting thing rather than a powerful thing

40:26SPEAKERand when presented in, but just from my time on iPad,

40:30SPEAKERlike using multitasking on iPad Pros,

40:33SPEAKER'cause it is a little bit limiting there.

40:35SPEAKERThe using it in a way when it's really smart

40:39SPEAKERand really well implemented and it's designed

40:41SPEAKERto be much more user configurable,

40:45SPEAKERit's a pretty amazing thing.

40:51SPEAKERI think the quick answer to this is that you start

40:53SPEAKERwith something that manages memory more efficient,

40:59SPEAKERmore securely like Rust and you build up from there

41:03SPEAKERand although that's a super trendy answer

41:05SPEAKERand I probably don't know the actual reasons

41:07SPEAKERwhy you would do that.

41:08SPEAKER- Well, actually I've brought this up before.

41:09SPEAKERThere actually is a new and novel fresh OS called Redix

41:13SPEAKERthat is exactly what you're talking about.

41:14SPEAKERIt is another Unix-like that is written entirely in Rust.

41:18SPEAKER- Welcome to season three of the Dual Boot Diaries.

41:20SPEAKER- That's the one where it's one of the System 76 engineers

41:23SPEAKERis the BDFL for that project.

41:27SPEAKER- Okay.

41:28SPEAKER- The benevolent dictator for life.

41:30SPEAKER- Yeah, that's the Linus term.

41:33SPEAKERWhich is a slightly too cute term

41:35SPEAKERthat you occasionally see on open source projects.

41:37SPEAKERBut yes, he is the Linus of Redix.

41:41SPEAKERI don't know if the Redix will ever take off.

41:42SPEAKERI think it's an experimental hobby thing.

41:44SPEAKER- Yeah.

41:45SPEAKER- But there's all kinds of other Unix-likes

41:47SPEAKERthat aren't Linux floating around out there

41:48SPEAKERjust waiting for people to be cool and check them out.

41:52SPEAKER- Look, I think it's like,

41:57SPEAKERI don't know how you evolve a new OS at this point, right?

42:00SPEAKERLike we got iOS because there was an inflection point

42:04SPEAKERand there was a moment when like the hardware

42:06SPEAKERand the software lined up and there was a thing

42:08SPEAKERand then the Android kind of came out of that as well.

42:13SPEAKER- I don't know if, do you actually need to?

42:16SPEAKERLike I was thinking about this the other day,

42:19SPEAKERlike Windows, Linux, Mac OS are all running

42:22SPEAKERunderlying systems like kernels

42:24SPEAKERthat are 30 plus years old at this point, 35 years old.

42:27SPEAKER- I think that's a strength, not a weakness.

42:29SPEAKER- Right, exactly, like, and you see all the time,

42:31SPEAKERlike you actually, like as far as I can tell,

42:33SPEAKERlike the Windows NT kernel to this day

42:35SPEAKERis like very highly respected

42:37SPEAKERas a piece of software engineering.

42:39SPEAKER- Dave Plummer seems to like it.

42:41SPEAKER- Yes, well, he wrote most of them.

42:43SPEAKER- He's generally a fan.

42:45SPEAKER- Yes, I mean, he has actually even started poking fun

42:48SPEAKERat himself a bit about the,

42:50SPEAKERhey, I wrote that thing in Windows.

42:52SPEAKERHey, I wrote that other thing too.

42:53SPEAKERI wrote the copy dialogue.

42:54SPEAKERI wrote the zip support.

42:55SPEAKERI wrote the format utility.

42:58SPEAKERI wrote pinball.

42:59SPEAKER- When he wrote, when he said he wrote the zip file

43:01SPEAKERor the zip support, I was like, okay,

43:02SPEAKERso you're the one to blame

43:03SPEAKERfor this slow as zip implementation.

43:05SPEAKERCome on, man.

43:06SPEAKER- Yeah.

43:07SPEAKER- Anyway.

43:08SPEAKER- Speaking of Microsoft Dave's,

43:09SPEAKERwe've talked about this before.

43:10SPEAKERI still need to go back and listen to this.

43:12SPEAKERHe has that like three hour interview up with Dave Cutler,

43:16SPEAKERwho was the architect of the NT kernel back in the nineties

43:20SPEAKERthat goes into a bunch of the history around that stuff.

43:22SPEAKERAnyway, like, you know, Mac OS was based on next step,

43:26SPEAKERwhich was a BSD derivative.

43:28SPEAKERIt started in the eighties,

43:29SPEAKERlike Linux is famously 35 years old.

43:32SPEAKERLike the underpinnings of all the major operating systems,

43:36SPEAKERlike just the basic technical ones seem extremely sound

43:39SPEAKERat this point.

43:40SPEAKERAnd I don't know that,

43:41SPEAKERand actually as a corollary to this,

43:43SPEAKERlistening to the dual blue diaries has been a good reminder

43:45SPEAKERthat for most end users,

43:47SPEAKERlike the operating system is the interface.

43:50SPEAKER- Yeah, 100%.

43:51SPEAKER- It's not what's underneath the interface

43:52SPEAKERof running the actual system.

43:54SPEAKERIt's just what are the pieces that I touch to engage with

43:57SPEAKERusing my computer.

43:58SPEAKERIt's actually been interesting listening to the,

44:01SPEAKERlistening to the dual blue diaries,

44:02SPEAKERreminding me how Linux has effectively decoupled

44:05SPEAKERthe interface from the OS itself in a lot of ways.

44:08SPEAKERSo like people are coming to Linux or like,

44:11SPEAKERlike Adam trying Fedora and thinking it was very Ubuntu-like

44:15SPEAKERbecause they both use GNOME and then realizing like,

44:18SPEAKERhe actually said it out loud.

44:19SPEAKERIt was like one of those aha moments.

44:20SPEAKERI heard the light bulb go off in his voice where he was like,

44:23SPEAKERoh, the things I liked about Ubuntu might have actually

44:25SPEAKERjust been GNOME things, not Ubuntu things,

44:28SPEAKERbecause I also have them in Fedora here.

44:30SPEAKER- Well, so for me, for me on this question though,

44:34SPEAKERit's like things that I like about,

44:35SPEAKERlike I think about things I like about

44:37SPEAKERthe different OSs, right?

44:38SPEAKERAnd I like how easy it is to run software in Windows.

44:42SPEAKERAnd I like that I don't really have to fool

44:44SPEAKERwith drivers in Linux, right?

44:45SPEAKERThat it just kind of,

44:46SPEAKERthe kernel just kind of takes care of that.

44:49SPEAKEROn Mac, I mean, I like how the dock bounces

44:52SPEAKERwhen I click an application.

44:54SPEAKERThat has always been my favorite.

44:56SPEAKERNo, seriously though, I don't,

44:58SPEAKERI haven't used a Mac in a really long time.

44:59SPEAKERSo I don't have a, like a current, what I like on Mac take.

45:04SPEAKERBut I think it's like taking the bits and pieces

45:06SPEAKERand the way the different things work.

45:07SPEAKERAnd I think you hit on something there where Linux

45:11SPEAKERis just this series of like loosely coupled software

45:16SPEAKERinterfaces that can all talk to each other

45:18SPEAKERin defined and extensible ways.

45:22SPEAKERAnd that's awesome right up until the moment that it's not.

45:25SPEAKERAnd like the moment that it's not

45:26SPEAKERis when you want to update something

45:28SPEAKERand like you don't have the right sub library,

45:30SPEAKERthen you end up replacing your entire window manager

45:33SPEAKERbecause you wanted to run a GTK6 thing, a QT6 thing,

45:37SPEAKERand you were in a QT5 or whatever.

45:38SPEAKER- I'm going to say, I'm going to save some of this

45:40SPEAKERfor the Patreon episode next week, I think.

45:41SPEAKERBut your story, your story about Neary breaking

45:44SPEAKERbecause Pac-Man decided to update Qt

45:46SPEAKERbefore Neary was updated enough

45:49SPEAKERto handle the new version of Qt

45:50SPEAKERand having your GUI just break is why

45:52SPEAKERI will never run a Hirsch.

45:53SPEAKER- Yeah, well, so- - No thanks.

45:55SPEAKER- Anyway, yeah, we talked about that this week.

45:57SPEAKERI fixed the problem, it turns out.

45:59SPEAKER- We'll get into it.

45:59SPEAKERDid you pin a package?

46:01SPEAKER- No, I didn't.

46:02SPEAKERI just installed snapper support

46:04SPEAKERand when something like that happens,

46:05SPEAKERI just roll back and then I don't worry about it.

46:07SPEAKER- Well, but then you can't update.

46:08SPEAKER- But like 12 hours later it was fixed, it was no big deal.

46:11SPEAKER- Well, that's fair.

46:13SPEAKEROne of my, okay, now I'm just getting into it.

46:14SPEAKERMy understanding on Arch is that you shouldn't not update

46:17SPEAKERfor too long 'cause that can also cause breakages, but.

46:19SPEAKER- Look, always be updating, but also test your backups

46:23SPEAKERis the big lesson from that whole outing.

46:25SPEAKERAnyway, I looked at Manjaro after this.

46:28SPEAKERI was like, maybe I should just do Manjaro

46:29SPEAKER'cause it's basically the same thing,

46:32SPEAKERbut it's stabilized.

46:36SPEAKER- Kind of more user-friendly Arch, right?

46:38SPEAKER- Yeah, before Kashi was the more friendly Arch,

46:41SPEAKERit was the more friendly Arch.

46:43SPEAKER- I guess there's room for that,

46:46SPEAKERbut I'm sure Manjaro is fine.

46:47SPEAKERIt's been around forever and when people seem to like it,

46:50SPEAKERbut like when you're at the point of running

46:52SPEAKERa more stable Arch, shouldn't you just run

46:54SPEAKERa different distro?

46:55SPEAKERAt that point, it's just Debian or Fedora or something.

46:58SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway, this is.

47:00SPEAKER- Okay, it says robust with rolling releases.

47:02SPEAKERWe'll get into this later.

47:03SPEAKER- Yeah, I need to do some more research there.

47:07SPEAKER- It is still a rolling distro.

47:08SPEAKERAnyway, Shagsmaboo, that's a Halloween username.

47:12SPEAKER- That's a pretty good name.

47:15SPEAKER- Speaking of operating systems,

47:16SPEAKERI'm having an urge to download 86Box

47:18SPEAKERand install Windows 95 and 98,

47:21SPEAKERbut I don't know what I would do with these

47:22SPEAKERafter I get the initial nostalgia surge

47:25SPEAKERafter like 15 minutes.

47:27SPEAKERPlease give me a reason to indulge in my dumb ideas.

47:29SPEAKERThe only reason I can give you is that it is fun

47:31SPEAKERbecause pretty similar thing here

47:35SPEAKERafter you get them installed and dink around

47:37SPEAKERin the UI a little bit and remember all the stuff

47:39SPEAKERyou remember, at least in my experience,

47:43SPEAKERyou kind of stop using them.

47:44SPEAKERYou're probably not gonna set up internet access

47:47SPEAKERin Windows 98 and use it as a daily driver

47:49SPEAKERfor web browsing or something like that.

47:51SPEAKER- So once I got Windows, once I got internet access

47:54SPEAKERrunning in Windows, that Windows 95 x86 box I made

47:57SPEAKERfor the Windows 95 anniversary episode,

47:59SPEAKERhaven't touched it since.

48:00SPEAKER- Yeah, same, but it's fun though.

48:02SPEAKERLike it's fun going through the installs for those things

48:05SPEAKERand remembering how things used to work

48:06SPEAKERand poking around in the BIOS.

48:09SPEAKER- I mean, it doesn't take up much space

48:11SPEAKERis the other nice thing.

48:12SPEAKERLike it's like relatively small.

48:14SPEAKERI've kind of been, I have it there to futz around with it.

48:17SPEAKERIf I want to grab a screenshot or an image or a video

48:19SPEAKERor something, I totally can and yeah.

48:21SPEAKER- It's a good time to do it.

48:22SPEAKERI think I might've mentioned this on the Windows 95 episode,

48:25SPEAKERbut the 5.0 release of 86 box that just came out

48:28SPEAKERa few weeks ago is a huge improvement over the 4.x

48:31SPEAKERbecause they finally have integrated their own way into,

48:34SPEAKERbelieve it or not, prior to this,

48:37SPEAKERthere was no way to manage multiple virtual computers

48:39SPEAKERin this thing.

48:40SPEAKER- Oh, really?

48:41SPEAKER- You had to get like an external add-on manager

48:43SPEAKERthat other people had built to like have more

48:46SPEAKERthan one virtual computer at a time.

48:49SPEAKER5.0 finally added sort of a computer browser

48:51SPEAKERwhere you can just make as many different

48:54SPEAKERkind of bespoke computer configs as you want

48:56SPEAKERand name them and keep them organized and managed.

49:00SPEAKERAnyway, good time to tinker with that stuff.

49:03SPEAKERBut yes, it's mostly, it's basically

49:07SPEAKERlike the emulation library thing, right?

49:08SPEAKERIt's like, as soon as you get the entire library

49:11SPEAKERof NES games at your fingertips,

49:14SPEAKERyou try each one for five minutes

49:15SPEAKERand then you probably move on with your life.

49:18SPEAKER- I gotta tell you, I set up that,

49:20SPEAKERthe attract mode thing for the Mr.

49:23SPEAKERand I flipped the TV on when I'm sitting in here

49:25SPEAKERand kind of when I have a quiet day

49:27SPEAKERand it's been really good

49:28SPEAKERbecause I occasionally see something that I remember

49:30SPEAKERand I'm like, oh man, I gotta play that a little bit.

49:32SPEAKERBut also I've seen a bunch of stuff that looks rad

49:35SPEAKERthat I never ever saw before.

49:36SPEAKERAnd that's been the best part of having that thing turned on.

49:39SPEAKER- Yeah.

49:40SPEAKER- The ratio of interesting to not interesting

49:42SPEAKERis not great for it though.

49:44SPEAKERI quite intentionally haven't hooked the watt meter

49:46SPEAKERup to it either.

49:47SPEAKER- Probably for the best.

49:48SPEAKER- Yeah.

49:50SPEAKER- Coyote S Pumpkins.

49:52SPEAKER- Oh boy, happy Halloween y'all.

49:53SPEAKER- You flagged this one, I assume you hadn't.

49:55SPEAKERI assume this is a yes.

49:56SPEAKERHave you guys tried James Hoffman's cold brew technique?

49:59SPEAKER- Oh, I wanted to talk about it.

50:02SPEAKERSo James Hoffman posted a video the other day

50:04SPEAKERwith a cold brew technique that used,

50:08SPEAKERoh God, what's it called?

50:09SPEAKERIt's, come on, I'm finding the link here.

50:13SPEAKERIt's the stuff that drops fines out of beer

50:17SPEAKERwhen you're making beer to clarify beer.

50:19SPEAKER- Vines, meaning like the tiny, tiny particles?

50:22SPEAKER- Tiny, tiny particles, yeah.

50:24SPEAKERI have not actually tried it, I'm going to.

50:27SPEAKERI'm kind of interested, but I have,

50:29SPEAKERmy cold brew technique I've been doing

50:30SPEAKERfor a long, long time at this point.

50:34SPEAKERAnd like, I don't, I mean, I guess the ratio,

50:40SPEAKERso his whole point is cold brew wastes

50:43SPEAKERa fair amount of coffee 'cause your ratio,

50:45SPEAKERinstead of being like 18 to one is 10 to one or nine to one.

50:49SPEAKERSo you're using, sorry, 11 to one.

50:52SPEAKERYou're using a lot more coffee per liter of water

50:56SPEAKERthat you use.

50:57SPEAKER- Is that for concentrate or for drinkable?

50:59SPEAKER- Both.

51:00SPEAKERSo generally speaking, the extraction is less,

51:02SPEAKERyou get less extraction.

51:04SPEAKER- I see.

51:05SPEAKER- With a cold brew process.

51:09SPEAKER- That makes sense.

51:10SPEAKER- But like, I think his, like, I'm not a coffee expert.

51:14SPEAKERI enjoy coffee a lot.

51:15SPEAKERI think his logic is a little flawed

51:18SPEAKERbecause he's talking about using a toddy,

51:20SPEAKERwhich is my least favorite way to make cold brew.

51:22SPEAKERI know you were a toddy guy for a minute.

51:24SPEAKER- Wait, oddy, the branded thing?

51:26SPEAKER- The branded thing.

51:27SPEAKER- No, I've never used a toddy before.

51:29SPEAKER- You were doing mason jars?

51:31SPEAKER- Mason jars, yeah.

51:34SPEAKERI think, like, it's a fining agent

51:38SPEAKERis the thing that he's using.

51:39SPEAKERAnd it's used in beer brewing.

51:40SPEAKERSo you put it in your finished beer

51:44SPEAKERto basically make sediment fall out over 12 hours.

51:49SPEAKERI use a Hario cold brewer, which is a nylon filter,

51:55SPEAKERand I grind finer than I do for brewed coffee,

51:58SPEAKERhot brewed coffee.

51:59SPEAKERSo I get pretty good extraction.

52:01SPEAKERI'm usually doing like a 12 to one or 13 to one coffee

52:05SPEAKERto water ratio by mass.

52:07SPEAKER- I always thought the recommendation for cold brew

52:09SPEAKERwas to grind coarser than usual.

52:10SPEAKER- It is, but if you use a fine enough filter,

52:13SPEAKERthe reason you do that is 'cause the water doesn't filter,

52:17SPEAKERthe water doesn't pass the filter as well when it's cold

52:19SPEAKERas it does when it's hot.

52:21SPEAKERSo if you're brewing in your mason jar

52:23SPEAKERand then running it through a filter,

52:24SPEAKERit's gonna take forever to drain through the filter.

52:27SPEAKER- That is the reason that I have fallen off cold brew.

52:29SPEAKERI'd kind of like to get back to it.

52:30SPEAKERI miss it, but it took all day to what, I forget,

52:35SPEAKERwhat is the biggest common size of mason jar?

52:37SPEAKER- The quart is the normal one.

52:39SPEAKERIt's like when I do the egg noggin as a quart,

52:42SPEAKERyou can get bigger than that, but that's the one I would use.

52:44SPEAKER- Like it basically took all day to pass that much cold brew

52:47SPEAKERconcentrate through multiple paper fill.

52:50SPEAKERI would have to change paper filters

52:51SPEAKERevery three or four hours 'cause they became-

52:54SPEAKER- They get clogged, right?

52:54SPEAKER- So saturated that they were useless,

52:56SPEAKERbut it took so long to filter it,

52:58SPEAKERbut it's not pleasant having all that grid in there,

53:02SPEAKERso you kind of have to do it.

53:03SPEAKER- So the immersion, the Hario's an immersion ones.

53:06SPEAKERYou have a tall, narrow glass carafe,

53:10SPEAKERand the nylon filter that holds 100 grams of grounds

53:14SPEAKERgoes in the top of that and it sits.

53:16SPEAKERSo you're diffusing out rather than immersioning in.

53:21SPEAKERYou have to stir it up.

53:22SPEAKERI usually stir it up once midway through

53:24SPEAKERand do it for 24 hours, but it's really highly effective.

53:28SPEAKERIt doesn't have any of the problems that he listed,

53:30SPEAKERand I get a really nice flavored cold brew

53:33SPEAKERwith none of the downside just using

53:34SPEAKERmy normal-ass San Francisco tap water.

53:37SPEAKERSo I'm kind of curious about the finding agents.

53:41SPEAKERI'm skeptical about pouring off,

53:43SPEAKERand it looked like you wasted a lot of coffee.

53:45SPEAKERSo they were literally just pouring off the top,

53:48SPEAKERletting the sediment settle out,

53:50SPEAKERand then pouring very carefully.

53:52SPEAKERAnd that looked to me like you're gonna waste

53:53SPEAKERa lot more stuff than otherwise.

53:55SPEAKERAnyway.

53:56SPEAKERI think that cold brew already feels,

53:58SPEAKERI don't wanna use the word wasteful,

54:00SPEAKERbut highly inefficient, or I already felt a little weird

54:03SPEAKERabout how many grounds I was throwing out

54:05SPEAKERevery time I did it.

54:06SPEAKER- Well, I mean, if you're doing concentrate

54:10SPEAKERat 10 to one, then that's fine, right?

54:12SPEAKER'Cause you're gonna add water to it and it'll be okay.

54:14SPEAKERThe downside of the Hario one is that

54:16SPEAKERunless you grind really, really fine,

54:17SPEAKERyou're not gonna get something that's concentrated enough

54:19SPEAKERto do more than add a little milk to, or put ice in.

54:24SPEAKERSo yeah, anyway, that's it on that.

54:26SPEAKER- I've solved this problem by going all the way

54:29SPEAKERto the other end of the spectrum

54:30SPEAKERand just getting very used to drinking instant coffee.

54:32SPEAKER- Oh God, like hula girl or something good,

54:35SPEAKERor are you into the taster's choice?

54:37SPEAKER- Typically the Nescafe Classico is the bulk purchase.

54:40SPEAKER- Oh God.

54:41SPEAKER- It's fine.

54:41SPEAKER- Okay.

54:42SPEAKER- It's a caffeine delivery mechanism.

54:45SPEAKER- Like you might as well just drink a rockstar at that point.

54:47SPEAKER- It's not that bad, it's not amazing.

54:49SPEAKERThe Starbucks instant is not bad.

54:52SPEAKER- Starbucks beers are good, yeah.

54:53SPEAKER- Last time I was home, there was some around

54:55SPEAKERand that's actually quite, Classico's okay.

54:58SPEAKER- Try the hula girl.

54:59SPEAKERThe hula girl, I was shocked in that I could not tell

55:03SPEAKERthat it was instant really, especially with milk.

55:06SPEAKER- Well, a nice instant gets kind of expensive though.

55:08SPEAKER- I mean, you treat yourself, Brad, live a little.

55:11SPEAKERYou deserve it.

55:12SPEAKER- Well, that's the thing though.

55:13SPEAKERWe're talking like that might be the couple times a month,

55:16SPEAKERlike Saturday morning relaxation instance,

55:19SPEAKERbut just the workday I need to caffeinate in bulk.

55:26SPEAKER- Nescafe is there for you.

55:28SPEAKER- I'm not gonna tell you what my coffee budget is

55:30SPEAKER'cause it's not great, but like generally speaking,

55:34SPEAKERI make the same coffee every day and it's a way,

55:37SPEAKERit's a bright point in my otherwise darkest days.

55:42SPEAKERIt's fantastic.

55:43SPEAKER- Yeah, I get it.

55:45SPEAKERAll right, Andrew.

55:46SPEAKERI backed the Electronic Gaming Monthly Compendium Kickstarter

55:49SPEAKERa while ago and it seems like the physical book

55:51SPEAKERis in the home stretch of production.

55:54SPEAKERI got hit with a ton of warm fuzzies,

55:55SPEAKERespecially since I love when you two flip

55:57SPEAKERthrough old magazines on the show.

55:59SPEAKERSeeing those old EGM month, I'm sorry,

56:02SPEAKERseeing those old EGM covers I hadn't thought about in years

56:05SPEAKERgot me wondering how you feel about projects like this.

56:09SPEAKERWould you ever want to see a compendium of your own work,

56:11SPEAKERa maximum PC compendium?

56:14SPEAKERDoes that feel weird to think about for you guys

56:16SPEAKERand that will probably never make physical archives

56:18SPEAKERof things that were only ever digital goods?

56:21SPEAKER- I so wish when we started,

56:24SPEAKERso I would love to see a maximum PC compendium.

56:26SPEAKERI have no interest in making it myself.

56:28SPEAKERI don't have the rights to it.

56:29SPEAKERI don't own the content.

56:30SPEAKERI don't really want to work for future again.

56:32SPEAKER- And then also to the point of this question,

56:35SPEAKERthe real question here is,

56:36SPEAKERdoes anybody still have the content?

56:39SPEAKERLike, does it even exist in a way that you could archive

56:41SPEAKEReven if you were willing to do it?

56:43SPEAKER- The PDF archives that I posted on archive.org

56:46SPEAKERor like the first issue through like 2010

56:51SPEAKERare pretty good, 2012 are there.

56:54SPEAKERThey're not like 300 DPI print quality,

56:56SPEAKERbut they're good enough for a compendium I think.

56:58SPEAKER- I guess when it was a print good in the first place,

57:02SPEAKERthere was probably enough of a tidy enough archive format

57:06SPEAKERthat it was much easier to back up.

57:07SPEAKERLike in the case of web only, digital only stuff,

57:10SPEAKERlike that stuff is so diffuse and non-standard

57:14SPEAKERand web backups were so nascent

57:16SPEAKERand like kind of primitive back then

57:19SPEAKERthat like a lot of that content is kind of just gone.

57:21SPEAKER- So one of the things I pitched when we were coming up

57:23SPEAKERwith the Whiskey Media pass in like 2010

57:29SPEAKERat Giant Bomb and Tested

57:31SPEAKERwas that we should do a printed yearbook every year

57:34SPEAKERof like the best of Giant Bomb, the best of Tested,

57:36SPEAKERthe best of Screen, the best of Anime Vice

57:38SPEAKERand put it in a big bound coffee table book

57:41SPEAKERand just post our, you know.

57:43SPEAKER- That's fun.

57:44SPEAKER- I wish we had done that.

57:45SPEAKERI think it would have been incredibly stupid.

57:46SPEAKERIt was really expensive.

57:47SPEAKERSo we didn't explore it further,

57:50SPEAKERbut I would love to see like your book.

57:55SPEAKERLike, do you remember seeing like Boy's Life,

57:58SPEAKERlike a lot of magazines in the 80s at the end of the year,

58:01SPEAKERthey'd be like, hey, you can get a year,

58:03SPEAKERa bound annual compendium version of our magazine

58:08SPEAKERfor like, you know, extra 30 bucks or 20 bucks or whatever.

58:12SPEAKER- No, I don't think I ever saw that.

58:13SPEAKERAnd I would love to bring that idea back for websites.

58:15SPEAKERI think that's really cool.

58:16SPEAKERIt's a, it reminds me of what,

58:18SPEAKERI think Campo Santo did the annual report every year

58:22SPEAKERwhere they would do like, hey,

58:24SPEAKERhere's how our stuff is going

58:25SPEAKERwhen they were building Firewatch

58:26SPEAKERand they'd pay somebody to write like a whole,

58:29SPEAKERlike here's what we thought was interesting.

58:31SPEAKERHere's what we learned.

58:32SPEAKERHere's the stuff we were excited about,

58:34SPEAKERblah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

58:36SPEAKERThat's really good. - That's great, yeah.

58:37SPEAKERI think the biggest problem with a lot of this stuff

58:39SPEAKERis that like this sort of archival stuff

58:41SPEAKERrequires somebody to be forward-thinking enough

58:43SPEAKERin the moment to make sure that it's all preserved.

58:46SPEAKERAnd my universal experience is that people

58:49SPEAKERare just too busy doing the thing in the first place

58:52SPEAKERto actually take on extra work and have the foresight

58:55SPEAKERto also do the archiving stuff on the backend

58:58SPEAKERwhile they're doing it.

58:59SPEAKER- You have to make a concerted dedicated effort

59:02SPEAKERif you want to, like you, like,

59:03SPEAKERit's like the Video Game History Foundation

59:05SPEAKERhas a librarian whose job it is to like think about ways

59:09SPEAKERto preserve things and present them in interesting ways

59:11SPEAKERand stuff like that.

59:12SPEAKERAnd you have to make that kind of effort,

59:13SPEAKERwhich costs a lot of money.

59:14SPEAKER- Yes.

59:15SPEAKERI've never been super big on like coffee table books

59:17SPEAKERand compendiums, but a kind friend gifted me a spare copy

59:21SPEAKERof that Art of Atari book from like 10 years ago recently.

59:25SPEAKERI'll make an exception for that

59:26SPEAKERbecause that Atari art is so rad.

59:28SPEAKER- Is it like the cartridge cover art, the paintings?

59:31SPEAKEROh yeah, it's rad.

59:32SPEAKER- It's basically full of profiles of the artists

59:34SPEAKERwho did the paintings for all those things.

59:36SPEAKER- Super full.

59:37SPEAKER- Bunch of like full color, full page,

59:39SPEAKERprintings of those covers.

59:41SPEAKER- Brad, I'm gonna tell you last night,

59:42SPEAKERI downloaded a bunch of 60s and 50s and 70s era paintings

59:48SPEAKERof O'Neill cylinders and NASA habitats from the NASA,

59:52SPEAKERfrom the Goddard site for wallpaper purposes.

59:55SPEAKERAnd it's pretty good.

59:56SPEAKER- Is that a government site?

59:57SPEAKER- Government site.

59:59SPEAKER- I should probably also go download that stuff

1:00:00SPEAKERwhile it's still there.

1:00:01SPEAKER- Yeah, well, they are well-archived, I will say.

1:00:05SPEAKER- Okay, all right, I should go get in on that too.

1:00:07SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:00:08SPEAKER- I had a weird moment when we did that news roundup

1:00:13SPEAKERa few weeks ago that had the SIM card farm story in it.

1:00:17SPEAKERI ended up on the US Secret Services press site

1:00:21SPEAKERwhen I was putting the episode together and needed art,

1:00:23SPEAKERor not art, but photos of all the banks of SIM cards.

1:00:27SPEAKERAnd they straight up, there was their press release

1:00:30SPEAKERwith all of their photos attached to it.

1:00:32SPEAKERSome of the photos were like mega, mega high res.

1:00:34SPEAKERSome of them were terrible,

1:00:37SPEAKERbut those were the official photo releases

1:00:39SPEAKERfrom the Secret Service.

1:00:40SPEAKERSo the photo I wanted to use

1:00:43SPEAKERwas like 300 by 420 or something like that.

1:00:48SPEAKERI was like, that's, come on.

1:00:50SPEAKERYou can take a better photo than that Secret Service?

1:00:52SPEAKER- Look, they shot it with their Razer flip phone, okay?

1:00:54SPEAKER- Maybe.

1:00:55SPEAKER- The thing I liked about the NASA site

1:00:58SPEAKERwas it used the same interface

1:00:59SPEAKERthat they use for the telescope images,

1:01:01SPEAKERwhich are sometimes like crazy high resolution.

1:01:05SPEAKERSo it was like, you can get a small one,

1:01:06SPEAKERyou can get a web one, you get a print ready picture

1:01:09SPEAKERof this watercolor painting from like 1962.

1:01:12SPEAKER- I like when the official images

1:01:14SPEAKERget up into the five digit dimension range.

1:01:16SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:01:17SPEAKER- It's like this image is like 12,000 by 16,000.

1:01:21SPEAKER- I need an array of 5K monitors

1:01:23SPEAKERto see this in its full glory.

1:01:24SPEAKER- Yep.

1:01:25SPEAKER- You wanna do one or two more?

1:01:26SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:01:28SPEAKERAll right, here's one from Sex Tooth.

1:01:30SPEAKER- Oh no.

1:01:32SPEAKER- What's the weirdest or scariest hardware failure

1:01:34SPEAKERyou've ever had on your PC or console?

1:01:37SPEAKERObligatory story.

1:01:38SPEAKERWhen I was about 11 in 1997, 98,

1:01:41SPEAKERwe had gotten a new ultra fast CD-ROM drive 40X, I believe.

1:01:46SPEAKERI decided to try it out with one of my favorite games

1:01:48SPEAKERand the first game I ever played, X-Wing.

1:01:51SPEAKERThe disc was four or five years old at this point

1:01:53SPEAKERand I had played the game a lot in that time,

1:01:55SPEAKERso it had some visible scratches,

1:01:56SPEAKERbut it still worked up to that point.

1:01:58SPEAKERI put the disc in the ultra fast CD-ROM

1:02:00SPEAKERand waited for the game to launch.

1:02:02SPEAKERThe game didn't launch, but the CD drive

1:02:04SPEAKERwas getting louder and louder.

1:02:06SPEAKERFinally, after about one or two minutes,

1:02:08SPEAKERthe drive suddenly opened with no input from me,

1:02:11SPEAKERwith the CD still spinning at a very fast speed.

1:02:16SPEAKERWhen the tray fully opened,

1:02:17SPEAKERthe CD then launched into the air like a helicopter,

1:02:20SPEAKERsix to 12 inches above the CD tray,

1:02:23SPEAKERbefore descending to the basement floor.

1:02:26SPEAKERAs it reached the floor, it was still spinning

1:02:28SPEAKERand started to wobble, so it spun in place

1:02:29SPEAKERfor another 30 seconds or so before it came to a stop.

1:02:33SPEAKERThe CD was unusable after this incident.

1:02:36SPEAKER- Okay, so I marked this because we tried,

1:02:41SPEAKERthere were always reports when the high speed CD-ROMs

1:02:43SPEAKERand optical drives started coming out

1:02:45SPEAKERof like drive discs shattering in the drives.

1:02:48SPEAKERAnd at Maximum PC, of course,

1:02:50SPEAKERour motto there was always be testing.

1:02:52SPEAKERAnd we tried to make that happen by A,

1:02:57SPEAKERfirst taking the most damaged, busted up CDs

1:02:59SPEAKERthat we could find and putting them

1:03:00SPEAKERinto like a 48X CD-ROM drive, and then that didn't work.

1:03:06SPEAKERSo then we started cutting notches out of them

1:03:08SPEAKERwith a Dremel to unbalance them, that also didn't work.

1:03:11SPEAKERSo I'm fascinated to hear another example of this happening,

1:03:16SPEAKERbut yeah, we could not get them to explode,

1:03:19SPEAKERwhich always bummed me out.

1:03:22SPEAKER- I'm trying to visualize how this happens

1:03:25SPEAKERbecause I assume, I guess I've never seen this in action,

1:03:28SPEAKERbut I assume like the motor kind of extends up

1:03:31SPEAKERinto the middle of the CD, right, to spin it,

1:03:32SPEAKERbut then the motor would have to retract

1:03:34SPEAKERbefore the tray could come out, right?

1:03:36SPEAKER- I think my understanding was that usually

1:03:39SPEAKERthe tray kind of exploded out

1:03:41SPEAKERbecause of the rotational force.

1:03:43SPEAKER- I see.

1:03:44SPEAKER- But I don't know, I'm fascinated by this.

1:03:49SPEAKERThe scariest thing I've ever had to happen

1:03:51SPEAKERwas when a power supply blew up

1:03:53SPEAKERand the magic smoke came out and it was a lot.

1:03:56SPEAKER- Oh, a lot and bad.

1:03:59SPEAKERThe worst non-computer one though

1:04:01SPEAKERwas when I was at BattleBots and a robot,

1:04:04SPEAKERwe were interviewing a person who had built a robot

1:04:06SPEAKERand then the lithium ion battery pack caught fire

1:04:08SPEAKERwhile we were doing the interview

1:04:10SPEAKERand we all had to run away from it

1:04:11SPEAKER'cause it was making a bunch of really toxic white smoke.

1:04:14SPEAKER- Yeah, anything involving smoke and fire

1:04:16SPEAKERkind of just by default wins this contest.

1:04:19SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:04:20SPEAKER- I don't think I've ever had anything burn up.

1:04:21SPEAKERI don't have a lot of good stories here.

1:04:24SPEAKERBy the time I had to hot swap that BIOS was pretty scary.

1:04:27SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a terrifying one.

1:04:29SPEAKER- Not a lot though.

1:04:31SPEAKER- The lithium smoke and the robot,

1:04:32SPEAKERlike a big giant lithium battery pack,

1:04:35SPEAKERlike making fire and like being big enough

1:04:39SPEAKERthat they couldn't get enough sand on it to put it out

1:04:42SPEAKERmade a truly terrifying amount of smoke.

1:04:44SPEAKERIf we had been inside a building,

1:04:45SPEAKERit would have filled the entire thing.

1:04:47SPEAKER- Pretty alarming.

1:04:48SPEAKER- Yeah, it's fine that we keep them in our pockets though.

1:04:51SPEAKER- Okay, last email or last discord question rather.

1:04:54SPEAKERI am just now realizing that Care Bearer is cake batter.

1:04:57SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:04:59SPEAKER- Because there's a question here

1:05:00SPEAKERabout a label maker machine.

1:05:02SPEAKER- Oh boy.

1:05:04SPEAKER- But I'm not gonna read that one.

1:05:05SPEAKER- Okay.

1:05:06SPEAKER- I'm gonna read this one instead.

1:05:07SPEAKER- You should get a label maker though, they're really handy.

1:05:09SPEAKER- Should I, do you have one?

1:05:10SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:05:11SPEAKER- Cake batter is big on label makers.

1:05:14SPEAKER- Look, I'm gonna go and tell you,

1:05:15SPEAKERI was pretty meh about label makers

1:05:18SPEAKERand then we went to an Airbnb one time

1:05:21SPEAKERwhere the person who owned the Airbnb

1:05:22SPEAKERhad labeled every cabinet with the things that were in it.

1:05:26SPEAKERIt was really nice.

1:05:28SPEAKER- I can see it.

1:05:29SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:05:29SPEAKER- Sure.

1:05:30SPEAKERAll right.

1:05:32SPEAKERYou ever start budgeting for a closed source system

1:05:34SPEAKERlike PagerDuty and then find out

1:05:36SPEAKERthat Target open source is its own?

1:05:38SPEAKER- What?

1:05:40SPEAKER- And then here is a link.

1:05:40SPEAKERSure enough, yes, Target has a GitHub repo.

1:05:46SPEAKERHere is a link to target/go alert.

1:05:49SPEAKER- Wow.

1:05:50SPEAKER- This is described as open source on-call scheduling,

1:05:53SPEAKERautomated escalations and notifications

1:05:55SPEAKERso you never miss a critical alert.

1:05:58SPEAKERI assume this is what they use in store for employees?

1:06:02SPEAKER- No, I bet this is for their uptime on their storefront.

1:06:06SPEAKER- Oh, for the web store?

1:06:08SPEAKER- For the web store.

1:06:09SPEAKER- Interesting.

1:06:10SPEAKER- Yeah, 500 errors is in the screenshot.

1:06:12SPEAKER- Okay, the mention of PagerDuty made me think

1:06:14SPEAKERthis was something used in physical space

1:06:17SPEAKERfor people out on the floor as well, but maybe not.

1:06:20SPEAKER- PagerDuty is a service for like DevOps people

1:06:24SPEAKERwho are maintained, who are like, yo, the websites.

1:06:27SPEAKERIt's like, you know, when we used to just text Dave

1:06:29SPEAKERwhen the website was down?

1:06:31SPEAKERNow you'd have a PagerDuty service and people turn it,

1:06:33SPEAKERlike it turns on and off automatically

1:06:34SPEAKERand it just buzzes your phone when something breaks.

1:06:38SPEAKER- I love finding unlikely GitHub accounts.

1:06:42SPEAKER- This is fabulous.

1:06:43SPEAKER- Yeah, Target having a GitHub account

1:06:44SPEAKERand posting open source software that they write and use

1:06:47SPEAKERis weird in a fun way.

1:06:49SPEAKERI know there are more than enough problems with Target

1:06:52SPEAKERjust to be clear, but still.

1:06:54SPEAKER- The Slack channel is called gophers.slack.com

1:06:57SPEAKER'cause it's Go alert.

1:06:59SPEAKER- Oh, of course, yes.

1:07:00SPEAKER- They have too many things in their root folder though.

1:07:03SPEAKERYeah.

1:07:04SPEAKER- This is not quite as weird as the time that I found out

1:07:06SPEAKERthat Rivers Cuomo of Weezer has a GitHub account

1:07:08SPEAKERthat he uses fairly regularly.

1:07:09SPEAKER- Wait, what?

1:07:10SPEAKER- Oh, wait, have we never talked about this?

1:07:11SPEAKER- No.

1:07:12SPEAKER- Dude.

1:07:13SPEAKER- Where does he start?

1:07:14SPEAKER- Like Rivers Cuomo's whole internet.

1:07:16SPEAKERSpeaking of like, speaking of consolidated activity profiles

1:07:20SPEAKERabout everything you've ever done online,

1:07:22SPEAKERRivers Cuomo's digital footprint on the internet

1:07:25SPEAKERis weird as hell.

1:07:29SPEAKERLike he writes a bunch of Python code

1:07:30SPEAKERthat he's used on tours somehow.

1:07:33SPEAKERHe runs a discord.

1:07:34SPEAKERIt's one of the weirder discords I have ever seen.

1:07:36SPEAKER- His profile picture is just a picture of old him

1:07:39SPEAKERon a blue background.

1:07:40SPEAKERThat's amazing.

1:07:41SPEAKER- It's the blue album cover

1:07:43SPEAKERwith all the other members of the band

1:07:45SPEAKERcloned stamped out and just him.

1:07:47SPEAKER- He's done 2,900 contributions in the last year.

1:07:51SPEAKER- Yeah, no, he uses his GitHub account quite regularly.

1:07:54SPEAKERHe seems to write a fair amount of code.

1:07:56SPEAKER- His bot is called Quomputer.

1:07:59SPEAKER- Yeah, yes.

1:08:00SPEAKEROh, of course, of course he wrote that himself.

1:08:03SPEAKERYes, he has a weird bot on his discord server

1:08:07SPEAKERand I did not realize he had written it himself.

1:08:09SPEAKER- He, okay, looking at his stars though,

1:08:12SPEAKERthis is the real thing.

1:08:13SPEAKERBackground Downloader, Deep Links Flutter,

1:08:16SPEAKERWhite Box Code GPT,

1:08:20SPEAKERSpotify Astro Transitions.

1:08:22SPEAKERHe does a lot of Spotify API stuff it looks like.

1:08:25SPEAKEROkay, yeah, this is fascinating.

1:08:27SPEAKER- It's weird.

1:08:28SPEAKERIt's weird stuff.

1:08:29SPEAKERTarget having a GitHub repo is not quite as weird as this,

1:08:31SPEAKERbut it's still kind of weird.

1:08:33SPEAKER- Wow.

1:08:34SPEAKER- Microsoft having, you know, Microsoft,

1:08:36SPEAKERyou name it, big tech company having a GitHub repo

1:08:38SPEAKERis like whatever, of course, but Target?

1:08:41SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:08:41SPEAKER- That's a bit strange in kind of fun way.

1:08:44SPEAKER- Whoa, okay.

1:08:46SPEAKER- And on that note.

1:08:47SPEAKER- Yeah, I think this is as good a place as any

1:08:49SPEAKERto wrap it up for the month.

1:08:52SPEAKERIf you have a question,

1:08:52SPEAKERyou can send them to techbot@content.town

1:08:54SPEAKERor if you're in the discord,

1:08:57SPEAKERyou can go to the question seeking answers channel

1:08:59SPEAKERand once there, you can type something in,

1:09:02SPEAKERit's gonna disappear in a minute or two

1:09:04SPEAKERand then we'll see it at the end of the month.

1:09:05SPEAKERBrad is gonna painstakingly copy them,

1:09:07SPEAKERpaste them out while I'm over doing the same

1:09:09SPEAKERon the email side.

1:09:10SPEAKER- Discord, give us an export function.

1:09:12SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't think they care.

1:09:14SPEAKER- They don't.

1:09:15SPEAKER- Yeah, but yeah, it would be great.

1:09:18SPEAKERI mean, the fast mail, I've looked for bots

1:09:21SPEAKERthat'll pull a fast mail folder

1:09:22SPEAKERand turn it into a Word document,

1:09:23SPEAKERbut it turns out it doesn't exist, not a normal use case.

1:09:28SPEAKERBut anyway, if you wanna get in that discord,

1:09:29SPEAKERyou can hang out in there, you can talk to us,

1:09:31SPEAKERyou can talk to everybody else there.

1:09:32SPEAKERIt's a delightful community of folks

1:09:35SPEAKERtalking about nerdy stuff all day long, pretty much,

1:09:38SPEAKERwhether it's audio stuff or Linux stuff

1:09:40SPEAKERor phone stuff or old electronic stuff

1:09:45SPEAKERor old console stuff or emulation stuff,

1:09:48SPEAKERwe got it all in there.

1:09:49SPEAKER- Food stuff, maker stuff.

1:09:51SPEAKER- Yeah, coffee stuff.

1:09:53SPEAKERSo first off, so you go to patreon.com/techbot,

1:09:57SPEAKERit's five bucks a month.

1:09:58SPEAKERYou also get the Patreon exclusive episode

1:10:00SPEAKERwhere we talk about kind of in progress stuff.

1:10:03SPEAKERIt's a, let's see, a less structured chat

1:10:08SPEAKERthat we do once a month.

1:10:09SPEAKERAnd we haven't recorded yet this month

1:10:12SPEAKER'cause this is an early Sunday, early last Sunday.

1:10:15SPEAKERSo who knows what it could be, it could be anything.

1:10:18SPEAKER- I can think of some things it'll probably be.

1:10:20SPEAKER- Okay, Brad has thoughts.

1:10:23SPEAKERI definitely wanna talk about something

1:10:24SPEAKERthat a listener gave us while I was in Escalon

1:10:27SPEAKERa few weeks ago, but anyway.

1:10:29SPEAKER- Yes, yes, that is the number one thing

1:10:31SPEAKERwe have to talk about.

1:10:32SPEAKER- 'Cause it's, anyway, but to be continued,

1:10:35SPEAKERin the meantime, we wanna thank our patrons,

1:10:37SPEAKERstarting with our executive producer tier patrons,

1:10:39SPEAKERincluding James Kamik, David Allen, Twinkle Twinkie,

1:10:43SPEAKERBunny, dot, dot, dot, or maybe that's Bunny Ellipses,

1:10:46SPEAKERJordan Lippett, Andrew Slosky, Infelicitous Rips,

1:10:51SPEAKERJason Lee, and Pantheon,

1:10:52SPEAKERmakers of the HS3 high-speed 3D printer.

1:10:56SPEAKERAnd since it's the end of the month,

1:10:57SPEAKERwe also wanna thank our associate producer tier patrons,

1:10:59SPEAKERincluding Graham Banks, Thomas Shea, Chad Rita,

1:11:03SPEAKERPete Hibbs, Steve Lynn, Tom Fuller, Just Associate Wedge,

1:11:08SPEAKERNathan Phelps, Ben Tolman, Tom Hilton,

1:11:11SPEAKERAndre M. Burke, P.E., Andrew "Dicey" Schuldeis,

1:11:15SPEAKERAlejandro Navarro, Matt Walker,

1:11:17SPEAKERparentheses Walkman8080, Sanchik Kumar, Felix Kramer,

1:11:22SPEAKERKerp, Brutal Kerfuffle, Eric, and Mark Wilhelm.

1:11:26SPEAKERThank you all so much.

1:11:28SPEAKER- Thank you.

1:11:29SPEAKERAnd I guess that'll do it for us this month.

1:11:32SPEAKERThis week also, it's the end of a week,

1:11:34SPEAKERit's the end of the month.

1:11:35SPEAKERBrad, what's your Halloween costume this year?

1:11:36SPEAKERYou got any, you leaving the house?

1:11:39SPEAKER- Probably not.

1:11:40SPEAKER- Okay.

1:11:41SPEAKER- My girlfriend's doing Where's Waldo stuff.

1:11:43SPEAKER- Okay, I like that.

1:11:45SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:11:45SPEAKER- Is she gonna be Waldo or is she gonna be somebody else?

1:11:48SPEAKER- I'm unclear, I think.

1:11:50SPEAKERActually, I did have that idea.

1:11:52SPEAKERI thought it would be funny if people just dressed up

1:11:54SPEAKERlike other Where's Waldo characters, but not the stripes.

1:11:57SPEAKER- That's a really funny idea, like,

1:11:59SPEAKERI have to come up with something for the full nerd.

1:12:01SPEAKERMaybe I'll just be another character

1:12:02SPEAKERfrom a background of a Waldo book.

1:12:04SPEAKER- Because that's just clothes, right?

1:12:06SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:12:07SPEAKER- But it's just outfit.

1:12:09SPEAKER- It has to be distinctive outfit.

1:12:10SPEAKER- Right.

1:12:11SPEAKER- It has to be like nurse or firefighter

1:12:13SPEAKERor something like that, right?

1:12:15SPEAKER- It's nothing outlandish,

1:12:16SPEAKERbut it still has to be a certain thing, you know?

1:12:18SPEAKER- I'm into it.

1:12:21SPEAKERI was thinking about coming to full nerd

1:12:24SPEAKERas Tim Robbins' hot dog man.

1:12:29SPEAKERWe gotta find who did this.

1:12:31SPEAKERAnyway, I don't know, we'll see.

1:12:33SPEAKERWe'll see who knows what I'll be.

1:12:34SPEAKERFind out next Tuesday.

1:12:36SPEAKERBut we'll be back next week

1:12:37SPEAKERwith another episode of The Tech Pod.

1:12:38SPEAKERThanks everybody for listening.

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