288: High Quackuracy

00:00SPEAKERI'm free.

00:01SPEAKER- Well, congratulations.

00:02SPEAKER- Thank you.

00:03SPEAKER- From like misery, from suffering,

00:06SPEAKERfrom generalized malaise.

00:08SPEAKER- Let's not get too ambitious here.

00:10SPEAKER- Okay, okay.

00:12SPEAKER- I am free of my jury service though.

00:14SPEAKERIt has completed unexpectedly a little bit sooner

00:16SPEAKERthan was planned.

00:18SPEAKER- Oh, thank you for your, did they just,

00:19SPEAKERdid the case end like unexpected, did they settle?

00:22SPEAKERWas there like-

00:23SPEAKER- No, no, no, no.

00:23SPEAKERWe saw the whole thing through.

00:24SPEAKERThe whole process played out, but-

00:26SPEAKER- Did you go to a deliberation room?

00:28SPEAKER- We did, which was like in the bowels of the building,

00:31SPEAKERlike it was kind of crazy.

00:33SPEAKERYou have to, 'cause the courthouse is pretty publicly,

00:35SPEAKERpublicly accessible.

00:36SPEAKERLike you have to go through metal detectors and stuff,

00:38SPEAKERbut like they don't check IDs or anything.

00:40SPEAKERAnybody can just come and go.

00:41SPEAKERAnd in fact, I think unless it's a closed courtroom,

00:44SPEAKERanybody can just sit in the gallery and watch a trial?

00:47SPEAKER- Yeah, you can go, in fact, actually,

00:48SPEAKERI should do that with my daughter next year

00:50SPEAKERand take her for a field trip to watch a trial sometime.

00:53SPEAKER- Like I kind of thought that sounds really weird

00:56SPEAKERbecause I just got out of it and I'm like,

00:57SPEAKERoh, I've got my free time back,

00:59SPEAKERbut I kind of, now I've got a bit of an itch

01:01SPEAKERto maybe go sit in on another trial

01:03SPEAKERjust to watch the process play out again a little bit.

01:05SPEAKER- Okay, so everything I know about this,

01:08SPEAKERI learned from watching TV shows.

01:09SPEAKERI assume that there was like opening arguments

01:12SPEAKERthat were heartfelt and impassioned from both lawyers,

01:14SPEAKERand then there was some testimony.

01:17SPEAKER- A lot of it.

01:18SPEAKER- Did you go on any field,

01:19SPEAKERlike I always, like my favorite part of Perry Mason's

01:21SPEAKERwas when they would take a field trip

01:22SPEAKERto see the scene of the crime.

01:24SPEAKER- No field trip.

01:25SPEAKERThere was one reenactment in the courtroom though.

01:27SPEAKER- Ooh.

01:27SPEAKER- Uh-huh.

01:28SPEAKERAnyway, the deliberation room though,

01:30SPEAKERI was gonna say the courtrooms are fairly,

01:32SPEAKERlike I said, publicly accessible,

01:34SPEAKERbut the deliberation area is like deep in the bowels

01:37SPEAKERof that courthouse building.

01:38SPEAKERLike you have to badge in,

01:40SPEAKERlike they use this like a labyrinthine.

01:40SPEAKER- You have to badge?

01:42SPEAKER- No, no, no.

01:43SPEAKER- Oh, the bailiff or something.

01:43SPEAKER- The bailiff has to badge into this big heavy door

01:46SPEAKERand like go through these labyrinthine halls

01:49SPEAKERinto like these back rooms that are like way out of sight.

01:51SPEAKER- Wow, like Stanley Parable business.

01:53SPEAKER- Once they put you in there to deliberate,

01:55SPEAKERyou can't leave without calling the bailiff again.

01:57SPEAKERYou're not like allowed to go out the door.

01:59SPEAKER- What if somebody needs to pee?

02:00SPEAKER- There's a bathroom in each deliberation room.

02:02SPEAKER- Oh, that's convenient.

02:03SPEAKER- Yeah, and a water cooler.

02:04SPEAKER- Does everybody have to like stop talking

02:05SPEAKERwhile you go in and pee though?

02:06SPEAKER- Yep.

02:06SPEAKER- Really?

02:07SPEAKER- But if you're stressed very strongly,

02:08SPEAKERyou have to stop deliberating or talking about the case

02:10SPEAKERif somebody goes in the bathroom.

02:11SPEAKER- Wow.

02:12SPEAKER- Yes.

02:13SPEAKER- Did they give you sandwiches?

02:13SPEAKER- Nope.

02:14SPEAKER- What?

02:15SPEAKER- No, you have to provide all of your own food.

02:16SPEAKERYou can bring food into the deliberation room though.

02:19SPEAKER- Like if you bring snacks,

02:22SPEAKERyou better bring enough for everybody's situation, you think?

02:24SPEAKEROr is it like a...

02:25SPEAKER- There was no eating in there.

02:26SPEAKERWe actually like, they turned us loose to deliberate

02:30SPEAKERlike 45 minutes past lunchtime.

02:33SPEAKER- Okay.

02:34SPEAKER- It was like 1245 when they actually had to like

02:35SPEAKERget permission to, like the judge stopped everything

02:38SPEAKERwhen we hit noon.

02:39SPEAKERWe were so close.

02:40SPEAKERWe were basically like at the end of everything.

02:42SPEAKER- Yeah.

02:43SPEAKER- The judge actually like stopped for a couple of minutes

02:45SPEAKERand came back and he was like, all right, I've gotten my,

02:47SPEAKERI think he used the word permission

02:49SPEAKERor something along those lines.

02:50SPEAKERHe effectively said, I've gotten permission

02:52SPEAKERto run into the noon hour

02:53SPEAKERbecause basically it's like a mandated lunch break, right?

02:56SPEAKER- Oh, right.

02:56SPEAKER'Cause I, well, there's people that are union employees,

02:58SPEAKERright?

02:59SPEAKER- I assume, I don't know about,

03:01SPEAKERI don't know about like the attorneys and judges,

03:03SPEAKERbut I'm sure like people like bailiffs and...

03:06SPEAKER- Bailiffs and court reporters probably are, right?

03:08SPEAKER- Clerks and stuff like that probably are unionized.

03:10SPEAKERAnyway, the point is we were so close

03:12SPEAKERto wrapping everything up and getting deliberation started

03:14SPEAKERthat he made special concessions to go past noon.

03:17SPEAKERSo by the time it was like 1245 when they were like,

03:20SPEAKERall right, let's go to the deliberation room.

03:21SPEAKERAnd as soon as we got in there, like everybody was like,

03:24SPEAKERwhat about lunch?

03:26SPEAKER'Cause they were like,

03:26SPEAKERthe bailiff was like telling us how to deliberate

03:28SPEAKERand everybody was like, we need to eat before we do this.

03:30SPEAKERSo we had to break for lunch

03:32SPEAKER'cause everybody had to go get food.

03:33SPEAKER- Okay.

03:34SPEAKER- So the point is like, we all just went and ate

03:35SPEAKERand did not bring the food into the deliberation room.

03:38SPEAKER- Okay, so then, okay, so you're in the deliberation room

03:42SPEAKERand like, what's the scene?

03:43SPEAKERIs it like, is it like 12 angry men?

03:45SPEAKERIs this like people yelling and stuff?

03:48SPEAKER- Oh, it was pretty, it was quite,

03:50SPEAKEReveryone was aligned enough that it really

03:52SPEAKERwas actually quite crucial and orderly

03:54SPEAKERand just sort of got done quite quickly.

03:57SPEAKER- Oh, that's good, okay.

03:57SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, I think we're like,

03:59SPEAKERVinny's like dying to hear about every detail of this thing.

04:02SPEAKERSo I think the ramble cast on "Nextlander" this week

04:04SPEAKERfor people who are patrons there

04:06SPEAKERwill probably be like bursting at the seams

04:08SPEAKERwith more details like this, but.

04:10SPEAKER- Okay, so, okay, but you gotta give me

04:12SPEAKERthe exciting conclusion though, like, you know,

04:15SPEAKERguilty, innocent, did you send somebody up the river?

04:18SPEAKER- I don't think it's in the media yet.

04:19SPEAKERIt was a civil trial.

04:20SPEAKERThis was not criminal, which like, you know what?

04:22SPEAKERI'm gonna tell you, like, I felt enough responsibility

04:24SPEAKEReven in the civil trial making this decision

04:27SPEAKERthat I don't, like, I don't know

04:29SPEAKERif I'd wanna do a criminal trial.

04:30SPEAKER- No, I think a criminal trial would cause me

04:32SPEAKERan incredible amount of anxiety.

04:34SPEAKER- Yeah, like I have heard from people on criminal juries

04:37SPEAKERsince I've talked about this publicly who have reached out,

04:39SPEAKERlike who in one case said they sent somebody to jail

04:43SPEAKERfor 50 years, or prison for 50 years.

04:45SPEAKER- Yeah, Gina was on, was in the selection pool

04:48SPEAKERand was, like, seated, but they hadn't gotten through

04:51SPEAKERall the vetoes and stuff yet, and they finally kicked her

04:53SPEAKERoff at the end because they got somebody better,

04:55SPEAKERcloser to the, close enough that they could, like,

04:59SPEAKERput them in her seat, basically.

05:00SPEAKER- Oh, you mean, you mean Vardhir?

05:02SPEAKER- Yeah, exactly, and she was, she was, like,

05:05SPEAKERlegit concerned that, 'cause it was, like,

05:08SPEAKERa federal criminal case, and it was gonna be, like,

05:11SPEAKERan incredibly long-time commitment, and like I said,

05:15SPEAKERthe person was gonna, the stakes were,

05:18SPEAKERthe person was gonna go away for the rest of their life

05:20SPEAKERif it didn't go well.

05:21SPEAKER- I mean, that's, like, probably legitimate.

05:23SPEAKERLike, that's probably dismissal for cause, honestly,

05:26SPEAKERif you are very honest that, like, hey,

05:27SPEAKERI don't think I can fairly adjudicate this thing

05:29SPEAKERbecause I--

05:30SPEAKER- Yeah, because my own personal anxiety is such

05:33SPEAKERthat I can't, yeah.

05:34SPEAKER- Right, like, I don't know that I can send somebody,

05:37SPEAKERlike, if you literally, if you were to say,

05:38SPEAKERI can't, I don't have it in me to send somebody

05:40SPEAKERto prison for life, they absolutely would excuse you

05:42SPEAKERon the spot.

05:43SPEAKER- Yeah, I think that's a, like, in my case,

05:45SPEAKERthat's a true statement.

05:46SPEAKERI mean, there are some things that I would definitely

05:49SPEAKERbe able to send people to prison for life for,

05:51SPEAKERbut it would be, it would be a moral challenge for me.

05:55SPEAKER- Yeah, that's understandable.

05:57SPEAKER- Well, congratulations, thank you for your service.

05:58SPEAKER- Yes, I'm happy to have completed this thing,

06:01SPEAKERseen it through, and now--

06:02SPEAKER- Now you're immune for, like, five years, right?

06:04SPEAKER- Ah, technically it's 12 months.

06:06SPEAKER- Are you, to give a month, you get 11?

06:08SPEAKERThat's a bad deal.

06:10SPEAKER- Yeah, so it ended up being about three weeks, actually.

06:12SPEAKERIt was, I assume, they said May 30th,

06:16SPEAKERwhich is a week from yesterday at the time of this recording

06:18SPEAKERis when it would end, or it was, like,

06:20SPEAKERthe longest it would be.

06:21SPEAKERI assume they just plan out for it

06:24SPEAKERto be the absolute maximal version

06:26SPEAKERof what they most mapped out. - That makes sense, yeah.

06:28SPEAKER- Just so people don't, you know,

06:30SPEAKERpeople need to make concessions in their personal lives

06:33SPEAKERfor it to be that long if necessary,

06:34SPEAKERbut it turned out to be faster.

06:36SPEAKER- Well, and, like, they excuse you

06:37SPEAKERif you have, like, a vacation planned or something,

06:39SPEAKERso if they had said it was gonna go after that

06:40SPEAKERand somebody had a vacation for June 2nd,

06:42SPEAKERthey don't wanna have to kick jurors out.

06:43SPEAKER- So they don't actually, excusing you means

06:45SPEAKERyou've completed your service

06:47SPEAKERand are not in the pool for another 12 months.

06:50SPEAKERDeferring means if you have travel, they defer you,

06:52SPEAKERwhich means you have to put down a makeup date

06:54SPEAKERand they will send you another summons

06:56SPEAKERwithin the next, like, three months.

06:57SPEAKER- Yeah, it's always the Tuesday of Thanksgiving week.

06:59SPEAKERThat's the one I do.

07:00SPEAKERThat's a banger.

07:01SPEAKER- Yes, so you can't, sadly, you can't just get out of it

07:04SPEAKERif you have travel booked.

07:05SPEAKERYou have to make it up.

07:06SPEAKER- What if you don't believe in the rule of law anymore?

07:08SPEAKER- That's probably a good reason

07:10SPEAKERto remove you as a potential juror.

07:12SPEAKER- Yeah, extreme corruption in the United States government

07:15SPEAKERhas led me to believe.

07:17SPEAKER- Anyway. - Anyway.

07:17SPEAKER- Yeah, before we start, I wanna say

07:19SPEAKERthere's like one telltale sign of the effect

07:22SPEAKERthis schedule has had on my life.

07:24SPEAKERI looked, I just happened to glance at my downloads folder.

07:26SPEAKER- Yeah?

07:27SPEAKER- There's nothing in it for the last-

07:29SPEAKER- It's empty?

07:30SPEAKER- It's complete, I haven't downloaded anything

07:31SPEAKERin three weeks.

07:32SPEAKER- How do you live like this, Brad?

07:34SPEAKER- The entirety of my use of this computer

07:35SPEAKERhas been somewhere between like 5.30

07:38SPEAKERand 7 a.m. every day now.

07:41SPEAKERJust I have to be there at nine o'clock every day.

07:43SPEAKERSo like, and by the time I would get home,

07:45SPEAKERit was like after six and I was just like,

07:47SPEAKERI don't wanna go sit on the computer anymore after this.

07:50SPEAKER- This is the closest you've had to a straight job

07:51SPEAKERsince probably before the pandemic, right?

07:53SPEAKER- Or yeah, or like a nine to five,

07:56SPEAKERhave to be in a place type of job, yeah.

07:58SPEAKERSo I mean, I was working at home one day a week

08:01SPEAKER'cause we were not in session on Wednesdays,

08:02SPEAKERbut still just looking, it was like, man,

08:04SPEAKERI really have not been in my normal routine at all.

08:08SPEAKER- Wow.

08:09SPEAKERAnd hey, you wanna do a podcast?

08:12SPEAKER- Yeah, and get that download folder filled up too, Brad.

08:15SPEAKER(upbeat music)

08:39SPEAKER(upbeat music)

08:43SPEAKER- Welcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod, I'm Will.

08:46SPEAKER- I'm Brad.

08:48SPEAKER- How's Sheave Quest going?

08:49SPEAKER- Sheave Quest, I haven't quite maxed out the battle pass,

08:53SPEAKERbut I've got almost, I've got everything I care about.

08:55SPEAKERI've got General Grievous.

08:56SPEAKER- You got Red Road Sheave?

08:58SPEAKER- I take that back, I do not have Red Roads, Palpatine.

09:02SPEAKER- Yeah.

09:03SPEAKER- I'm sorry, I can't use the word Sheave.

09:04SPEAKER- Look, I've been rolling as,

09:07SPEAKERI rolled with a squad full of Sheaves last night.

09:09SPEAKER- I just cannot use the word Sheave, I'm sorry.

09:12SPEAKER- And I'm gonna say when you have a swarm of Sheaves

09:18SPEAKERdescend upon you, well, okay, first off,

09:21SPEAKERwe were playing with my friend, Mike,

09:22SPEAKERand we were playing with his nephew who's six years old,

09:25SPEAKERwhich probably we had some deleterious effects on his MMR

09:28SPEAKERwould be my guess because we went from playing

09:31SPEAKERlike all bot games and small children games

09:34SPEAKERto kind of getting wrecked, to pushing through a dub for him.

09:41SPEAKERBut the rolling with the full squad of Sheaves

09:43SPEAKERswarming down on people and blasting lightning

09:45SPEAKERand rocks at them and all that was some good chaos

09:47SPEAKERthat people just, the children just didn't know

09:49SPEAKERhow to cope with.

09:50SPEAKER- I always like to think that Palpatine was mononymic,

09:52SPEAKERyou know, that he just has the one name,

09:54SPEAKERkind of like Cher.

09:56SPEAKER- I mean, I think that's Sidious.

09:57SPEAKERIf you're gonna go one name, it's Sidious, right?

10:00SPEAKER- I always thought, yeah, sure.

10:02SPEAKER- Sheave is what his bros call him.

10:03SPEAKER- Yes, I actually like weirdly,

10:05SPEAKERonce I got him and started using him,

10:06SPEAKERI don't know if he's actually like the best model

10:08SPEAKERin the game because like the robe like clips outside

10:13SPEAKERof the TIE fighter and like he's kind of bland looking.

10:16SPEAKERHe's just kind of like a dark gray lump.

10:18SPEAKER- The best one is the banana that the head pokes out

10:20SPEAKERof all the cars through the roof.

10:22SPEAKER- Sure, oh yeah.

10:23SPEAKER- Yeah, but the hitbox is bad on that one.

10:24SPEAKERSo we don't wanna use that if you're competitive.

10:26SPEAKER- Yeah, but I got, well, I guess that red robe one

10:29SPEAKERwill have a little more pizzazz to it,

10:30SPEAKERbut I got General Grievous, which is maybe the real prize.

10:35SPEAKER- General Grievous is pretty good.

10:36SPEAKER- Yeah.

10:37SPEAKER- He doesn't have enough arms though, he needs more arms.

10:40SPEAKERThe, yeah, it's Fortnite's good.

10:44SPEAKER- Yeah, it's fun, it's fun.

10:46SPEAKERI don't know if I'll, I'll probably take a break

10:48SPEAKERafter the Star Wars stuff is over, but.

10:50SPEAKER- Probably, I mean, look, there's a giant death star

10:52SPEAKERin the sky, I think we speculated about this.

10:55SPEAKERI assume that the death star means the end

10:57SPEAKERof the Star Wars season is the end of this iteration

11:00SPEAKERof the map, and they're gonna blow everything up

11:01SPEAKERand start with a clean map on June 8th or whatever.

11:05SPEAKER- Do you think that the death star is to scale?

11:07SPEAKERThere's been numerous times that I've stopped

11:08SPEAKERin the middle of a match and just kind of looked up

11:10SPEAKERat the sky box and wondered at like, I mean, obviously,

11:12SPEAKERyou know, you don't know how close it is to the planet

11:14SPEAKERor whatever weird plane of existence Fortnite

11:16SPEAKERtakes place on, but like, I like to look at that

11:19SPEAKERand be like, man, is that really what it would look like

11:20SPEAKERif it loomed over your planet, that's scary as fuck.

11:23SPEAKER- This is always like, where do they park the death star

11:25SPEAKERwhen they're not using it?

11:26SPEAKERLike, what's the storage plan for the death star?

11:28SPEAKER'Cause like, if you roll in with the death star

11:31SPEAKERaround like my planet, I'm gonna freak out.

11:34SPEAKEREven if like, I think we're cool with the empire,

11:36SPEAKERyou never know, man, they might blow you up.

11:38SPEAKER- What is the means of propulsion of that thing?

11:39SPEAKERI've always wondered.

11:40SPEAKERWhat does it look like going into hyperspace?

11:42SPEAKERThat's always been my question.

11:43SPEAKER- Yeah, right, does it leave like a wake

11:45SPEAKERthat sucks everything into hyperspace with it?

11:47SPEAKERI don't know, man.

11:49SPEAKERAnyway.

11:50SPEAKER- We're not qualified to answer those questions, but.

11:52SPEAKER- Wow, that is a good segue.

11:53SPEAKERYeah, if you have questions, you can send them to us

11:55SPEAKERat podcast@techpod@content.town.

11:59SPEAKERAgain, that's techpod@content.town.

12:00SPEAKERI definitely didn't say podcast there,

12:02SPEAKER'cause that would be a weird thing to say.

12:04SPEAKEROr if you're in the Discord,

12:05SPEAKERif you're a member of the Patreon

12:07SPEAKERand you wanna submit a question via the Discord

12:09SPEAKERwhere you type a question into a channel

12:10SPEAKERand then it just disappears in front of your eyes,

12:13SPEAKERyou can post it in the Question Seeking Answers channel.

12:15SPEAKERAnd we have a mighty crop of questions this month,

12:19SPEAKERso if we didn't get to your questions,

12:21SPEAKERlike apologies in advance,

12:22SPEAKERI think we probably have enough to do a whole patron episode

12:26SPEAKERof questions too next week sometime.

12:29SPEAKERThere's a lot of questions right now.

12:31SPEAKER- Yes, man.

12:33SPEAKERMan, it just hit me.

12:35SPEAKERIt's gonna be so much easier to work that patron episode in

12:37SPEAKERnow that I'm actually going to be here all next week.

12:40SPEAKER- Yeah, you have time to play "Doom the Dark Age" again.

12:42SPEAKERNo, like you can catch up on blueprints.

12:45SPEAKER- Everything has just been kind of on hold

12:46SPEAKERfor the last three weeks, but anyway.

12:48SPEAKER- Yeah, hey, you got your life back, man.

12:50SPEAKERAnd no more courthouse tuna sandwiches.

12:52SPEAKERSo you got that going for you.

12:53SPEAKER- I brown-bagged it.

12:54SPEAKERI was pretty proud of myself.

12:56SPEAKERI did not buy, I bought a croissant the day I got selected

12:59SPEAKER'cause I was hoping that I would get dismissed immediately

13:02SPEAKERand did not.

13:03SPEAKERBut after that, I was very disciplined

13:05SPEAKERand made lunch every day

13:06SPEAKERand had a little freezer pack and everything.

13:08SPEAKERIt was kind of cool.

13:09SPEAKER- What's your lunch strategy for the courthouse?

13:11SPEAKERWhat do you take?

13:11SPEAKER- It was a lot of leftovers.

13:12SPEAKERIt was a lot of like pasta or I was,

13:15SPEAKERbut I was making wraps

13:16SPEAKERon the days we didn't have a leftover spring.

13:18SPEAKERI was making like little like turkey wrap and a hummus wrap.

13:21SPEAKER- Love a turkey hummus wrap.

13:22SPEAKER- Yeah.

13:23SPEAKER- Very healthy and garbanzos.

13:25SPEAKER- Always good.

13:26SPEAKERAll right, how about we start with an anonymous email?

13:31SPEAKER- Ooh, I like an anonymous one.

13:33SPEAKER- For reasons that will become clear,

13:34SPEAKERplease redact my name.

13:36SPEAKERWhen Will was- - Done.

13:37SPEAKER- Yes, yes, done.

13:39SPEAKERWhen Will was suggesting ideas

13:41SPEAKERfor a portable pirate radio station,

13:44SPEAKERthis was nearly what my mates and I did in college.

13:47SPEAKERThis was the dawn of MP3

13:49SPEAKERand one of our mates bought from somewhere

13:51SPEAKERa five watt FM radio transmitter.

13:54SPEAKERThis had about a five or 10 mile radius.

13:56SPEAKERSo here's what we did.

13:58SPEAKERWe placed the antenna off campus

14:00SPEAKERon a TV antenna at his parents' house,

14:02SPEAKERconnected to a computer running Winamp.

14:04SPEAKERThis is brilliant, by the way.

14:06SPEAKER- This is really good.

14:07SPEAKER- This email like blew my mind kind of.

14:09SPEAKERThis was the days of analog TV signals as well.

14:12SPEAKEREach Friday, the three of us would each record

14:14SPEAKERa two hour show, burn it to MP3, then broadcast.

14:18SPEAKERThat way, whatever party we would show up at,

14:21SPEAKERwe could tune to our station on the radio

14:23SPEAKERand listen to our music.

14:24SPEAKER- This is incredible.

14:25SPEAKER- By that time, the people at the party

14:27SPEAKERwere too far into the evening

14:28SPEAKERto notice the change in songs, and that's it.

14:32SPEAKER- That's incredible.

14:33SPEAKERSo- - Yeah, I had,

14:35SPEAKERyes, brilliance, like I said.

14:37SPEAKER- Like this was, did you have friends in college

14:39SPEAKERthat worked at the college radio station?

14:40SPEAKER- No, my sister actually worked at the radio station

14:44SPEAKERat her university, but I was graduated and gone by then.

14:47SPEAKER- So Tatum, who we worked with at Whiskey,

14:50SPEAKERworked at his college radio station

14:52SPEAKERwhen we were in college, and it was knowing somebody

14:57SPEAKERwho worked on the radio station.

14:58SPEAKERI had another friend who was there at the same time,

15:01SPEAKERand you'd call him and ask him to like play ship

15:03SPEAKERfor you at specific times.

15:04SPEAKER- Sure.

15:05SPEAKER- But this is even better,

15:06SPEAKER'cause then you have your own DJ show,

15:07SPEAKERyou could do the whole thing, it's incredible.

15:09SPEAKER- It's really impressive, like that's just a feat

15:11SPEAKERof ingenuity, I also just have kind of a fascination

15:14SPEAKERwith, I mean, we talked about this.

15:16SPEAKER- Also a federal crime, let's be clear.

15:18SPEAKER- Yes, we should probably, that's exactly why

15:20SPEAKERthis person redacted their name.

15:22SPEAKER- Yeah.

15:23SPEAKER- We talked about this a week or two ago,

15:25SPEAKERlike I kind of just love the union of new and old tech

15:27SPEAKERand like piping like modern digital data

15:30SPEAKERthrough an old analog signal.

15:32SPEAKER- Yep.

15:32SPEAKER- Like I think we've talked about on the Q&A before,

15:34SPEAKERsomebody that made a TV station in their house.

15:38SPEAKERI think in their case it was like 24/7 Simpsons reruns

15:41SPEAKERor something, but.

15:41SPEAKER- They use the old cable that's in the wall, right?

15:44SPEAKER- Right, right, so they could plug into the coax

15:47SPEAKERin the wall and tune to channel 13 or whatever

15:49SPEAKERthey had put it on and just watch Simpsons

15:51SPEAKERand you know, like that piping from a computer

15:54SPEAKERover an old analog broadcast method like this

15:57SPEAKERis just super cool.

15:58SPEAKER- Well, so we had a mystery pile of feces

16:01SPEAKERin our backyard the other day, pretty mighty one,

16:05SPEAKERfairly substantial, scat is what I would call this probably.

16:09SPEAKER- Okay, what's the difference?

16:12SPEAKER- I don't know, I think spore, I don't know.

16:15SPEAKERI assume spore is herbivores and scat is carnivores maybe?

16:18SPEAKER- Spore is more generic.

16:20SPEAKERSpore is a track, trail, scent or droppings,

16:23SPEAKERespecially of a wild animal.

16:24SPEAKER- Scat is a poo.

16:26SPEAKERSo it was like a good three pound crap

16:29SPEAKERand it looked like carnivore crap

16:31SPEAKERand like we live in mountain lion area here.

16:33SPEAKER- Oh yeah, geez.

16:35SPEAKER- And we kind of freaked out.

16:36SPEAKERSo I sent it to the mountain, the Puma tracking project

16:39SPEAKERfor the peninsula, which is like these volunteers

16:42SPEAKERwho track sightings and post them on a map.

16:44SPEAKERAnd they were like, that's not mountain lion.

16:48SPEAKERWe were like, woo hoo, that's good news.

16:49SPEAKERProbably a coyote got in our backyard somehow.

16:52SPEAKER- That's not great either.

16:53SPEAKER- I don't mind, single coyote is no problem.

16:55SPEAKERSingle mountain lion, real scary.

16:57SPEAKER- Yes, yes, absolutely.

16:59SPEAKERI mean, but a pack, I mean, generally when there's one coyote

17:02SPEAKERthere's more than a pack of coyotes is a problem.

17:04SPEAKER- Well, it turns out this time of year is when the male,

17:07SPEAKERthe young male coyotes, the cubs,

17:10SPEAKERget kicked out of their packs.

17:14SPEAKER'Cause they're usually females and there's one alpha male

17:17SPEAKERand then the baby, the young males.

17:19SPEAKERSo the new young males are finding their way

17:22SPEAKERthis time of year.

17:23SPEAKERSo it's probably a stupid teenage boy

17:25SPEAKERthat got stuck in our backyard is the kind of TLDR.

17:29SPEAKERAnyway.

17:30SPEAKER- Coyotes are nothing to mess with though.

17:31SPEAKERI have heard some grim stories from back home

17:34SPEAKERin the more rural areas about the work of coyotes.

17:36SPEAKER- Yeah, especially if you're like walking a small dog

17:38SPEAKERor something, it's not good.

17:41SPEAKER- My parents, like good medium-sized dog

17:44SPEAKERalmost got got by coyotes.

17:46SPEAKER- Oh, well, so I bring it up because I was looking

17:49SPEAKERto see if you can use like software-defined radios

17:51SPEAKERto track mountain lion collars.

17:52SPEAKER'Cause they're all tagged around here.

17:54SPEAKER- Oh really?

17:55SPEAKERThat's awesome.

17:55SPEAKER- Yeah, and it turns out you can't

17:57SPEAKERbecause the collars are designed to last

17:59SPEAKERfor like four years.

18:01SPEAKERThey don't, 'cause the tranquilizing and tagging

18:04SPEAKERis fairly traumatic for the animals.

18:05SPEAKERSo they try to minimize it as much as possible.

18:07SPEAKERSo they broadcast really low wattage signals

18:11SPEAKERat a really long interval.

18:12SPEAKERSo it's like every three hours or something.

18:15SPEAKERAnd your chance of picking up those,

18:16SPEAKERif you don't know what you're looking for,

18:17SPEAKERyour chance of picking that up out of the noise is very low.

18:20SPEAKERSo anyway.

18:21SPEAKER- Do they not collect and aggregate

18:23SPEAKERand make available the data themselves?

18:25SPEAKER- They don't make it available because of poachers.

18:28SPEAKER- Oh, of course.

18:28SPEAKER- Yeah.

18:29SPEAKER- Oh, yeah, that's a bummer.

18:31SPEAKER- Yeah, 'cause it would be really nice to know

18:33SPEAKERif the mountain lion is in my neighborhood

18:34SPEAKERbefore I go out in the backyard.

18:36SPEAKER- Yeah, it sure would.

18:37SPEAKER- Yeah, anyway.

18:38SPEAKER- Okay, question from Alexander.

18:41SPEAKERBetween all the stuff you guys do,

18:42SPEAKERdo you keep track of your work and projects in a work log?

18:46SPEAKEREver since I saw John Carmack's explanation

18:48SPEAKERof his work log, I've been trying to implement one myself,

18:51SPEAKEReven developing an app for it,

18:52SPEAKERbut I get too lazy with it eventually.

18:55SPEAKER- So I keep everything in a Notion database at this point.

18:58SPEAKER- Okay.

18:59SPEAKER- Like I have really,

19:01SPEAKERlike the way Notion works is you can kind of generate,

19:03SPEAKERit works almost like a Wiki where you can generate pages

19:06SPEAKERoff of pages and stuff like that.

19:08SPEAKERAnd you know, I've always had WikiEnvy over the years, so.

19:11SPEAKER- Oh, sure, yeah, I've heard.

19:14SPEAKER- So yeah, so I have like top-level stuff for,

19:16SPEAKERtop-level categories for like games consulting

19:19SPEAKERand PC World and the podcast and the newsletter

19:22SPEAKERand like games I'm working on

19:24SPEAKERand other stuff I've been writing.

19:26SPEAKERAnd then I put subcategories of all of that.

19:29SPEAKERAnd I also have, like I have a home lab category,

19:31SPEAKERso I have, like that's where I put the documentation

19:34SPEAKERfor how to install, you know, Docker containers

19:37SPEAKERand stuff like that that I use on my servers.

19:41SPEAKERAnd it ends up being incredibly useful.

19:43SPEAKERIt took, this is, I mean I've tried this 20 times

19:47SPEAKERin the past and this is the first time

19:48SPEAKERI've been really consistent and good about it,

19:50SPEAKERbut also it was a necessity

19:52SPEAKER'cause there's enough stuff going on

19:53SPEAKERthat if I don't actually keep good notes

19:55SPEAKERthat I won't remember what I did three days ago.

19:57SPEAKER- Sure, yeah.

19:58SPEAKER- Because I'm bouncing back and forth.

19:59SPEAKERLike going back and forth from games consulting

20:01SPEAKERto PC World stuff is like it's a little,

20:05SPEAKERit's a lot sometimes.

20:06SPEAKER- Yeah, I feel like I'm kind of getting the vibe

20:09SPEAKERfrom reading comments out there

20:11SPEAKERthat the shitification might be setting in on Notion a bit.

20:14SPEAKER- So I still am using the free Notion.

20:19SPEAKERThey don't seem to have hit the Evernote problem

20:21SPEAKERwhere they're like, hey, you can only use this

20:23SPEAKERon two things unless you pay us.

20:25SPEAKERBut they are doing some stuff with the Notion paid now

20:28SPEAKERwhere like they used to have a base tier

20:31SPEAKERand then there was a tier you could pay

20:33SPEAKERfor their terrible fucking AI.

20:35SPEAKER- Yeah, it's mostly complaints about the AI features

20:37SPEAKERgetting shoved in more prominently.

20:39SPEAKER- Yeah, now they've gotten rid of the cheap tier

20:40SPEAKERand they just, they force you to get the AI tier

20:43SPEAKERif you wanna have Notion paid,

20:45SPEAKERwhich like for a single person, Notion free is great.

20:49SPEAKERThe paid features are all around sharing,

20:52SPEAKERlike having shared workspaces with other people

20:54SPEAKERand stuff like that.

20:55SPEAKER- Yeah, I still get the vibe that Obsidian

20:57SPEAKERis the thing most people switch to if they're not on.

21:00SPEAKER- I find Obsidian to be completely inscrutable.

21:04SPEAKERThe other thing I've been looking at is DocuWiki.

21:06SPEAKER- DocuWiki?

21:07SPEAKER- DocuWiki, which is a,

21:09SPEAKERsomebody in the Discord recommended it the other day.

21:13SPEAKERIt's just a, it's like a viewer that you run on a server

21:19SPEAKERand it takes a folder full of markdown files

21:21SPEAKERand makes the website a Wiki out of it,

21:23SPEAKERwhich seems like, it seems like then you could use

21:27SPEAKERsomething like SimpleNote or something like that

21:29SPEAKERto generate your Wiki folder and then view it online

21:32SPEAKERwith this DocuWiki thing, which seems pretty good.

21:34SPEAKER- That's cool.

21:35SPEAKERSpeaking of SimpleNote, my answer to this question

21:37SPEAKERis that the best I manage here is a flat to-do list

21:39SPEAKERin a SimpleNote document, which I rarely even look at,

21:43SPEAKERlet alone update.

21:44SPEAKER- Yeah, so you don't do this at all then.

21:46SPEAKER- I'm bad, I'm a bad note taker slash,

21:49SPEAKERI mostly just keep things in my head,

21:50SPEAKERwhich is of varying degrees of effectiveness.

21:54SPEAKER- Yeah, the thing that happened to me is when I got busy,

21:59SPEAKERit was actually around the time we started this podcast

22:01SPEAKERand I was still doing the start of the food stuff

22:04SPEAKERand then transitioning into the game things

22:06SPEAKERwhere I had a million tasks at any given moment

22:09SPEAKERand I had to keep track of 'em, it became really clear

22:11SPEAKERthat I had to have more consistent note taking.

22:15SPEAKERWhen I was just working in, when I was working on Tested,

22:17SPEAKERwe had a giant whiteboard with all of the scheduled shoots

22:22SPEAKERand upcoming stuff that was in production

22:24SPEAKERand like status of that and that was our kind of tracking

22:28SPEAKERsystem for that 'cause we were all in the same office

22:30SPEAKERall the time, so it worked really well.

22:32SPEAKER- Sure, question from Levi, regarding Apple TV boxes

22:37SPEAKERor other non-Apple streaming TV type boxes as well

22:41SPEAKERand concerns about using an HDMI port on them,

22:44SPEAKERwhat about using the PS5 or Xbox to stream services?

22:48SPEAKERI too have a Hisense TV and I avoid the smart functions

22:51SPEAKERexcept for Apple casting to the TV, which isn't used often.

22:54SPEAKERYeah, that is worth mentioning.

22:56SPEAKERI mean, at least for me, obviously,

22:57SPEAKERif you don't have one of those consoles, not an option,

22:59SPEAKERbut I've got both plugged in already.

23:01SPEAKERThere's a couple of things there.

23:02SPEAKERI don't think the PS5 supports Dolby Vision,

23:05SPEAKERif I'm not mistaken.

23:06SPEAKER- Does it not really?

23:07SPEAKER- I'm pretty sure it does not.

23:09SPEAKERI would have to triple check that,

23:10SPEAKERbut I mentally filed it away along with Samsung TVs

23:14SPEAKERon my list of things that don't support Dolby Vision.

23:17SPEAKERFor however much you care about that,

23:19SPEAKERsome people probably care more than others.

23:21SPEAKERThat's just kind of slightly better HDR.

23:24SPEAKERThe other thing about this though,

23:26SPEAKERis that I use Plex and Jellyfin quite a bit these days

23:30SPEAKERand those apps I have found to not be the best

23:33SPEAKERon the consoles or at least not to not get updated

23:35SPEAKERquite as often as some of the others.

23:38SPEAKERLike in both of those cases,

23:40SPEAKERI found Jellyfin and Plex apps to be

23:42SPEAKERof like extremely varying quality depending on the platform.

23:45SPEAKERLike I'm guessing the Apple TV ones

23:46SPEAKERare probably consistently the best.

23:49SPEAKERI should check again.

23:52SPEAKERIt's been a while since I looked,

23:53SPEAKERbut like for the commercial services though,

23:55SPEAKERthat is absolutely more of a viable option

23:58SPEAKER'cause I've had generally a pretty good experience

24:00SPEAKERwith stuff like Amazon.

24:02SPEAKERAnd I'm trying to think what else have I tried on console?

24:06SPEAKERIt's only done Amazon and Netflix on there,

24:08SPEAKERmaybe Disney Plus as well at some points.

24:10SPEAKERLike the commercial ones generally,

24:11SPEAKERI think are pretty good on the consoles.

24:13SPEAKER- It's funny because for me, there's a couple of things.

24:16SPEAKEROne is the remote situation on the consoles is annoying.

24:19SPEAKER- Yes, like having to use a controller

24:21SPEAKERto manage all that stuff is not great.

24:23SPEAKERI have an old media remote for the Xbox which works,

24:26SPEAKERbut it's not amazing either.

24:27SPEAKER- Yeah, and like compared to,

24:30SPEAKERI mean the way my wife and I interact with the TV

24:32SPEAKERis just with the app,

24:33SPEAKERthe remote app built into the phone, right?

24:36SPEAKER'Cause we use the Apple TV.

24:37SPEAKERThe other thing is like I didn't,

24:39SPEAKERI used to not use the consoles for this

24:40SPEAKERbecause the noise was bad,

24:42SPEAKERespecially last generation and the one before,

24:45SPEAKERyou know, the consoles were pretty loud.

24:47SPEAKERThe newer consoles are less, that's less of a problem.

24:49SPEAKERI feel like there's probably, I actually should test this.

24:51SPEAKERIt would be easy for me to set up and test,

24:53SPEAKERbut I wonder what the power draw is for the consoles

24:56SPEAKERversus like a dedicated Apple TV

24:58SPEAKERor something like that that's running ARM.

24:59SPEAKER- That's another thing I've thought about

25:01SPEAKERis that you're burning,

25:04SPEAKERI would guess somewhere between like 15 and 30 watts,

25:08SPEAKERmaybe 30 watts on an Xbox when you're watching stuff.

25:12SPEAKER- I mean, that's essentially idle, right?

25:14SPEAKER- Yeah, minus whatever like video decode hardware

25:18SPEAKERis active and networking.

25:20SPEAKER- Okay, so PlayStation,

25:21SPEAKERthe PlayStation 5's legal site

25:24SPEAKERhas active power consumption data,

25:26SPEAKERwhich I assume is probably right.

25:30SPEAKERAt,

25:31SPEAKERBlu-ray playback is 55.7 watts

25:35SPEAKERand streaming media is 56.1 watts

25:38SPEAKERfor the PlayStation, that is crazy high.

25:40SPEAKERThat's for HD.

25:42SPEAKER- That's running a disc though, did you say?

25:44SPEAKER- Well, Blu-ray playback is 55.7

25:46SPEAKERand streaming media is 56.1 at HD.

25:51SPEAKER- I would have thought the disc would have been way higher

25:52SPEAKERdue to having to run the motor in the disc drive.

25:56SPEAKER- I think those motors are pretty,

25:57SPEAKERlike while they spin fast, they're pretty light.

26:00SPEAKER- Probably in the momentum.

26:03SPEAKERAnyway, it is definitely an option.

26:05SPEAKERThere are trade-offs.

26:06SPEAKER- While they break this out by model,

26:08SPEAKERlike the digital edition and the pro and all that,

26:11SPEAKERthis is cool.

26:13SPEAKERI didn't realize there were quite so many variants.

26:15SPEAKERI guess they're different storage configurations probably.

26:18SPEAKERSo yeah, I think the other one is,

26:22SPEAKERthe shield is the thing we didn't talk about.

26:24SPEAKERThe shield is, the reason we didn't talk about it

26:26SPEAKERis 'cause the hardware is really old at this point.

26:28SPEAKER- Yeah, people like, people rave about the,

26:30SPEAKERthat's Nvidia, to be clear, the Nvidia Shield TV,

26:33SPEAKERlike people absolutely rave about that thing,

26:34SPEAKERbut yes, the hardware, it's actually a Tegra,

26:38SPEAKERroughly equivalent to the one in the Switch 1,

26:41SPEAKERjust to tell you how old it is.

26:42SPEAKERLike if they put out a new Shield TV

26:44SPEAKERwith new hardware in it,

26:45SPEAKERI might actually consider getting one

26:47SPEAKER'cause people seem to like it even better

26:49SPEAKERthan the Apple TV in a lot of cases.

26:51SPEAKER- So there have been rumors and they have just,

26:54SPEAKERthey had some hirings a couple of weeks ago.

26:56SPEAKERSo it seems like there might be a new Shield TV coming.

27:00SPEAKER- And they put out like a Switch 2 equivalent Shield TV.

27:03SPEAKERI might have to.

27:05SPEAKER- Yeah, well, it has really good video quality is the thing.

27:08SPEAKERIt supports all the codecs.

27:10SPEAKERIt supports all the Dolby Vision stuff, everything.

27:12SPEAKERSupporting everything is kind of the thing there.

27:14SPEAKER- And it has a decent remote, which is important.

27:17SPEAKERAnyway.

27:18SPEAKER- Yeah, all right, here's an email from Brandon

27:20SPEAKERthat I certainly found interesting.

27:23SPEAKERI just wanted to chime in with some info

27:25SPEAKERabout some of the courtroom tech

27:26SPEAKERyou were discussing this week.

27:28SPEAKERI managed the recording systems

27:29SPEAKERat one of the larger circuit courts in Michigan

27:31SPEAKERand our state actually stopped using stenographers

27:34SPEAKERin the courtrooms for the official record

27:36SPEAKERaround 20 years ago.

27:38SPEAKEREverything was moved over to video recordings

27:40SPEAKERof the proceedings, starting with VHS recordings,

27:42SPEAKERthen moved to digital SD recording around the year 2000,

27:46SPEAKERand finally into 1080p in the last five years or so.

27:49SPEAKER- Wow.

27:50SPEAKER- All of this was done as a cost cutting measure.

27:53SPEAKERSince the pandemic, a large portion of proceedings

27:55SPEAKERare actually held remotely via Zoom,

27:58SPEAKERin which case the official record

27:59SPEAKERis the Zoom cloud recording.

28:01SPEAKERWhen a written transcript is requested,

28:03SPEAKERa certified court reporter or transcriptionist

28:06SPEAKERcreates that from the video and audio records.

28:10SPEAKERBrad's concerns are correct.

28:11SPEAKERThis does introduce the possibility

28:12SPEAKERfor technology failures and inaudible moments,

28:15SPEAKERbut those are more or less seen as acceptable trade-offs.

28:18SPEAKERThat's crazy to me 'cause of how seriously

28:22SPEAKERthe official record was taken in the courtroom I was in.

28:25SPEAKERLike, it's crazy to me that there would be

28:27SPEAKERany level of acceptable--

28:29SPEAKER- Just people half-assing it up in Michigan.

28:32SPEAKER- I can't speak to Michigan's intentions,

28:34SPEAKERbut AI is being looked at by other states

28:36SPEAKERto either produce the entire transcript

28:38SPEAKERor to assist in human-assisted transcription,

28:42SPEAKERand that's it.

28:43SPEAKERWe had, like, there were actually quite a few--

28:45SPEAKER- Yeah.

28:46SPEAKER- Quite a few witnesses testified over Zoom in this case.

28:49SPEAKER- Oh, so I was gonna say, there were a bunch of people

28:51SPEAKERthat also posted the Discord that they work in these spaces.

28:53SPEAKER- Oh, okay, true.

28:55SPEAKER- We had a lot of feedback and offers for information,

28:57SPEAKERso thanks to everybody who wrote in.

28:59SPEAKER- Yes, that's cool.

29:00SPEAKERBut yeah, there were four or five,

29:03SPEAKERmaybe six witnesses over Zoom in this case.

29:07SPEAKER- Really, it's nice that they didn't have to come downtown.

29:09SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

29:10SPEAKER- If only you could have done your jury duty over Zoom.

29:12SPEAKER- Yes, yes.

29:14SPEAKER- Did they do that during the pandemic?

29:15SPEAKERI guess they did that during the pandemic.

29:16SPEAKER- I don't know, I actually have no idea.

29:18SPEAKER- Or did they make the jurors come in

29:20SPEAKERand sit down and watch Zooms?

29:22SPEAKER- That's a good question.

29:22SPEAKERI have no idea what they did, actually.

29:26SPEAKERMaybe people had to produce negative test results

29:28SPEAKERor something, I'm not sure.

29:29SPEAKER- Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, anyway, so it's interesting.

29:32SPEAKERI, we had a, there was a good thread

29:35SPEAKERabout the open steno project, the open,

29:38SPEAKERI can't remember what it's actually called,

29:40SPEAKERbut it's the Open Stography Tool Project.

29:42SPEAKER- Yeah, Open Steno Project was it.

29:43SPEAKER- Yeah, and then-

29:46SPEAKER- On the Discord, you mean?

29:47SPEAKER- Yeah, on the Discord, yeah.

29:48SPEAKERAnd there were a couple other people that wrote in as well.

29:50SPEAKERI didn't pull all of them, but I thought this,

29:52SPEAKERI thought the, like,

29:55SPEAKERI wonder if they have different criteria for this.

29:58SPEAKERLike if circuit court is,

30:01SPEAKERlike if criminal courts do something different, right?

30:04SPEAKERLike, 'cause it would suck to send somebody to jail

30:06SPEAKERbecause the transcription was bad.

30:08SPEAKER- Yeah.

30:10SPEAKER- But anyway, I don't know.

30:11SPEAKER- Yeah, this is mind blowing to me

30:13SPEAKERbecause I cannot count how many times

30:14SPEAKERin that courtroom the reporter,

30:16SPEAKERlike it's weird watching a lot of courtroom dramas.

30:19SPEAKERLike you always think of the reporter

30:20SPEAKERas somebody who's just sitting there

30:21SPEAKERon a little steno machine and never speaks

30:23SPEAKERor like is basically invisible, but.

30:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

30:25SPEAKER- And not count how many times the reporter

30:27SPEAKERhad to ask somebody to repeat something

30:28SPEAKERor ask them to slow down.

30:30SPEAKEROr in a lot of cases, there was a lot of crosstalk

30:32SPEAKERwhere people would like start answering a question

30:34SPEAKERbefore the attorney had finished asking it.

30:36SPEAKERAnd they're like, please, please,

30:37SPEAKERyou have to speak one at a time.

30:39SPEAKER- Yeah, that makes sense.

30:40SPEAKER- So like having all of that just baked

30:41SPEAKERinto the official recording of the trial

30:44SPEAKERwithout any human touch to clarify stuff is like,

30:48SPEAKERI don't know.

30:49SPEAKER- Yep.

30:50SPEAKER- I ain't here to tell how other states

30:52SPEAKERto run their legal systems.

30:53SPEAKER- Look, at the same time,

30:54SPEAKERI look at how the whole process worked.

30:56SPEAKERThis stuff we talked about a little bit before the show too.

30:58SPEAKERIt seems phenomenally expensive for,

31:02SPEAKERlike to run a three week trial, right?

31:04SPEAKER- Oh yes, oh yes.

31:06SPEAKEREspecially when like the case I was on was filed in 2022.

31:10SPEAKER- Jesus.

31:11SPEAKER- And it's almost three years later

31:13SPEAKERbefore it actually went to trial.

31:14SPEAKERSo like think about the amount of attorney's time

31:16SPEAKERspent working on that for the course of three years.

31:19SPEAKER- Maybe they should just hire more judges.

31:21SPEAKERI could be a judge.

31:22SPEAKERI'd be great at it.

31:23SPEAKER- That came up actually.

31:24SPEAKER- Oh really?

31:25SPEAKER- The judge was excellent in this case.

31:29SPEAKERI won't spend too much time on it, but highly professional.

31:32SPEAKERThere were a couple of times though

31:33SPEAKERwhere there were delays for whatever reason.

31:35SPEAKERAnd if it was a delay

31:36SPEAKERwhere he didn't need to be out of the room,

31:38SPEAKERlike it's very formal in there and like kinda,

31:40SPEAKERyou know, it's all quiet and everything,

31:41SPEAKERbut like it really might lighten the mood

31:44SPEAKER'cause he went into like,

31:45SPEAKERhe basically went into like welcome to judge facts mode.

31:47SPEAKER- Oh, that's fun.

31:48SPEAKER- Whenever people were out of the room.

31:51SPEAKER- Was there a transition for the judge

31:53SPEAKERfrom like jury selection

31:54SPEAKERwhen they were kind of inimical to you,

31:56SPEAKERall the people trying to weasel out of jury duty

31:58SPEAKERto like being like friendly judge?

32:00SPEAKER- No, this guy was so professional

32:01SPEAKERthat I would say there was like no change in demeanor.

32:03SPEAKERLike he dismissed people for cause,

32:06SPEAKEReven when I kinda felt like

32:07SPEAKERthey were trying to weasel out of it.

32:08SPEAKERBut like, if you say a thing,

32:10SPEAKERif you say that you have a bias

32:11SPEAKERor that you have read about this case prior or something,

32:13SPEAKERthey have no choice but to excuse you.

32:15SPEAKERThey can't like try to poke holes in what you're saying.

32:18SPEAKERThey have to take it on good faith

32:19SPEAKERthat you're being honest even if you're not.

32:21SPEAKER- Fair, okay.

32:22SPEAKERAnd anyway, he went into some judge facts stuff.

32:25SPEAKERLike he basically was like,

32:26SPEAKERhere's how many superior court judges are in San Francisco.

32:30SPEAKERAnd like, I was just in LA last Friday for something

32:32SPEAKERand they have 10 times as many as we do.

32:34SPEAKERBranded LA a little bit bigger.

32:35SPEAKER- I mean, it's a lot bigger, yeah.

32:37SPEAKER- LA is a little bit bigger than San Francisco.

32:38SPEAKERBut I think there's like 50, low fifties superior court.

32:42SPEAKERThere's like 52 or four superior court judges

32:45SPEAKERin San Francisco.

32:46SPEAKER- Wow, that's a lot.

32:47SPEAKER- It's a big building.

32:48SPEAKER- LA has over 500.

32:50SPEAKER- I mean, LA is 10 times this high, it's easy.

32:52SPEAKER- Yes, that makes sense.

32:53SPEAKER- Anyway, okay, here's a good question.

32:56SPEAKERI don't know that I want to attempt this username.

32:59SPEAKERGerard von, I can't.

33:03SPEAKERYou wanna try it?

33:04SPEAKER- Gerard von Niwenhusen.

33:07SPEAKER- Okay, sure.

33:09SPEAKERIt sounds Scandinavian.

33:09SPEAKER- I apologize, I'm sorry.

33:11SPEAKER- Yes, can web rings make a comeback in 2026?

33:14SPEAKERI mean, why not 2025 I say?

33:16SPEAKER- This is a thing that Dave Snyder talked about

33:20SPEAKERa million times back when we were in the whiskey basement,

33:22SPEAKERwhich is that everything old is always new again,

33:25SPEAKEReverything's gonna come back.

33:26SPEAKERAnd I think web rings are due.

33:29SPEAKER- I think, I hope so.

33:30SPEAKERI mean, Wes, our friend Wes Fenlon talked about that on,

33:34SPEAKERI forget which episode he was on,

33:35SPEAKERwhere he brought up the indie web.

33:36SPEAKER- The indie web stuff, the fresh RSS one, I think, yeah.

33:39SPEAKER- I think it was the RSS episode.

33:42SPEAKERI feel like that's the prerequisite though.

33:44SPEAKERLike you need things to form a web ring out of

33:47SPEAKERbefore you can have a web ring.

33:48SPEAKERAnd like, it seems like people are bringing blogs

33:50SPEAKERand websites back to a degree.

33:52SPEAKER- Blogs are hot, man.

33:53SPEAKER- I keep thinking about setting one up

33:55SPEAKERthat I know I'll never have time to update,

33:57SPEAKERbut it would be cool to have one.

33:59SPEAKER- This is the nice thing about the newsletter

34:00SPEAKERis it encourages you to like,

34:03SPEAKERpeople expect a cadence with a newsletter

34:04SPEAKERwhen they don't necessarily a blog.

34:06SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't know that I want

34:07SPEAKERthat kind of responsibility for.

34:10SPEAKER- Yeah.

34:10SPEAKER- I wanna just do it for fun.

34:12SPEAKER- I got busy last month and missed some newsletters.

34:15SPEAKERAnd as a result, I felt like I let a bunch of people down.

34:18SPEAKER- Yeah, that's exactly it.

34:19SPEAKERThat's like, I mostly, I really wanna do it more

34:21SPEAKERas an exercise in networking and hosting

34:23SPEAKERthan actually running a blog.

34:25SPEAKERLike I want to set up the blog

34:27SPEAKERand do all of the proxying and web server stuff.

34:30SPEAKERLike I'm learning Nginx right now.

34:33SPEAKER- Yeah, I set up a Minecraft server for my daughter

34:36SPEAKERand one of her friends last night.

34:37SPEAKERAnd I was like, man, if I had Nginx running,

34:39SPEAKERI could just run that from the house

34:41SPEAKERand have like a community server for friends.

34:43SPEAKER- Yeah, so I have, because of course I did,

34:46SPEAKERI decided to, I've been meaning to set up a reverse proxy

34:49SPEAKERfor months and I finally got around to it

34:51SPEAKERand finally just decided, you know what?

34:53SPEAKERI'm just gonna go straight Nginx.

34:54SPEAKERI'm not gonna use any of the GUI front ends

34:55SPEAKERor any of the other stuff that integrates.

34:57SPEAKERI'm just gonna learn plain old Nginx and hey,

34:59SPEAKERit's actually not nearly as complicated as you think.

35:03SPEAKER- So I will tell you, I have gone the other way

35:06SPEAKERand I just set up Portainer on my Plex server,

35:10SPEAKERthe small machine that runs Plex and the heavier stuff.

35:13SPEAKERAnd I installed, oh God, what's it even called?

35:19SPEAKERLike a Minecraft server manager that makes it easy.

35:22SPEAKERIt gives her a web UI that she can log into

35:24SPEAKERand like update the server and stuff like that

35:26SPEAKERso that I don't have to do that.

35:28SPEAKERI'm a big fan, getting like, let the people do their work

35:31SPEAKERinstead of having me do the work for the people.

35:32SPEAKERI'm teaching people to fish over here.

35:34SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, fair, fair.

35:38SPEAKEROkay, tactical tug.

35:41SPEAKERI'm curious, do any of you use some sort of AI assistant

35:44SPEAKERregularly?

35:45SPEAKERI have co-pilot bundled in the office pack at work,

35:48SPEAKERbut every time I use it, I realize how shit it is

35:50SPEAKERand why I don't use it.

35:52SPEAKERChat GPT is fine for the slightly more creative stuff

35:54SPEAKERlike writing and so on, but I mostly use it to check math

35:57SPEAKERand chemical formulas when I'm too lazy to do it myself.

36:00SPEAKERIt's better than co-pilot in my experience,

36:02SPEAKERbut still far from perfect.

36:03SPEAKERMaybe it's just me, but I generally find this whole AI hype

36:06SPEAKERto be a little over the top and that it's mostly useless

36:08SPEAKERfor things other than just messing around.

36:11SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't use it for anything

36:12SPEAKER'cause it's generally shit and is useless for everything

36:15SPEAKERother than just messing around.

36:17SPEAKER- I have used AI exactly once to generate something

36:19SPEAKERactionable that was useful to me.

36:21SPEAKER- Okay, and then codes.

36:23SPEAKER- No, it was when I wanted to test something on my TV,

36:26SPEAKERI asked it to generate an FFmpeg command line

36:29SPEAKERto generate a video.

36:30SPEAKER- Okay.

36:31SPEAKER- 'Cause FFmpeg, if you don't know,

36:32SPEAKERhas all kinds of generative, not, I'm sorry,

36:35SPEAKERthat's the wrong term to use

36:36SPEAKER'cause people are gonna think I mean AI.

36:37SPEAKERI guess like procedural is a better way to put it.

36:40SPEAKER- Yeah, it'll make like bars, NCSC bars and stuff, right?

36:43SPEAKER- I think it does.

36:43SPEAKERYes, it does have test patterns built into it,

36:45SPEAKERbut you can also just tell it to generate like frames

36:48SPEAKERof a specific RGB value or whatever.

36:50SPEAKER- Okay.

36:50SPEAKER- Or like it'll also do a bunch of sound generation stuff,

36:54SPEAKERlike sine wave type.

36:55SPEAKERYou can make it reduce a bunch of tones or whatever.

36:58SPEAKER- Can you make pink noise?

37:00SPEAKER- Probably.

37:01SPEAKER- Okay.

37:03SPEAKER- Anyway, what I had to do was just spit out a,

37:06SPEAKERspit out a like 15 second video

37:08SPEAKERof red, green and blue frames for like five seconds each.

37:10SPEAKERThat was literally it.

37:11SPEAKER- Okay.

37:12SPEAKER- I just wanted to,

37:13SPEAKERI wanted a lossless one of those

37:15SPEAKERwith no compression artifacts.

37:17SPEAKERLike I've wanted like pure color just to,

37:19SPEAKERI was trying to test,

37:20SPEAKERlook at some uniformity stuff on my TV.

37:22SPEAKERSo like I could have learned to do that myself

37:24SPEAKERin 20 minutes,

37:25SPEAKERbut I had decided to just see if I could get it

37:28SPEAKERto generate that video for me and it did.

37:30SPEAKERBut then I tried it on something a little slightly

37:32SPEAKERmore complicated with FFmpeg a few weeks later.

37:35SPEAKERCould not figure it out no matter what.

37:37SPEAKERIt tried, like it could not produce anything usable.

37:39SPEAKERAnd those were the two times I have ever tried

37:41SPEAKERto use AI for anything.

37:42SPEAKER- So I've, I mean, I've used some stuff.

37:45SPEAKERI played that quake demo, the quake two,

37:48SPEAKERthe stupid quake two game that Microsoft released.

37:51SPEAKERI wrote a newsletter about that.

37:52SPEAKERI played.

37:53SPEAKER- Yes, I tried.

37:54SPEAKERI tried the web embedded version of that too.

37:56SPEAKER- Yeah.

37:57SPEAKER- It's not great.

37:58SPEAKER- I played Fortnite and talked to Darth Vader.

38:02SPEAKERThat was stupid.

38:03SPEAKER- Yes, I did that as well.

38:06SPEAKERI, like I've done a lot of local stuff

38:09SPEAKER'cause of work that we do at PC world.

38:11SPEAKERSo like I've done some testing to figure out

38:13SPEAKERif there's benchmarks and stuff there.

38:15SPEAKERI downloaded deep sync, deep seek and use deep sync.

38:18SPEAKERI've run a bunch of stuff local.

38:20SPEAKERI generally, my feeling on the whole thing

38:23SPEAKERis that the results aren't good enough

38:25SPEAKERto be worth the costs, especially for the cloud-based stuff

38:28SPEAKERwhere like the amount of energy and water being used

38:32SPEAKERfor those big AI data centers is fairly ludicrous.

38:36SPEAKERAnd when I talk to normie humans

38:39SPEAKERabout why I don't like this,

38:41SPEAKERI've found coming up with some metaphors

38:43SPEAKERthat help them understand the environmental cost

38:44SPEAKERof running it and not to mention the copyright,

38:48SPEAKERthe theft of training the models,

38:50SPEAKERbut the environmental cost tends to put a sharp point

38:53SPEAKERon things, people at least here in Northern California.

38:56SPEAKERSo the example I use is the thing that you're asking

39:01SPEAKERimportant enough that you fill in a few square feet

39:03SPEAKERof wetland or is your question important enough

39:07SPEAKERthat you'd chuck a couple of kittens into a wood chipper

39:10SPEAKERto get the answer?

39:11SPEAKERAnd people react strongly to that, it turns out.

39:15SPEAKER- I think a lot of people do, especially around here,

39:17SPEAKERbut I think there are absolutely there are people out there

39:18SPEAKERthat will just shrug and not give a shit

39:20SPEAKERat environmental costs.

39:21SPEAKER- I mean, that's funny.

39:22SPEAKER- I really think the thing to hammer on with people

39:24SPEAKERis the reliability aspect of it.

39:26SPEAKERIt's like, hey, like you are trusting this thing

39:28SPEAKERway more than it deserves to be trusted.

39:29SPEAKERLike most of the results you're getting out of this thing

39:32SPEAKERare not unimpeachable in the way that you seem

39:36SPEAKERto think they are.

39:37SPEAKER- No, they're absolutely impeachable on almost every axis.

39:40SPEAKERThe other one I do is the little type of head bar

39:46SPEAKERon your keyboard on your phone.

39:48SPEAKERYou start the sentence and then just keep hitting

39:50SPEAKERthe middle word until you get a full sentence out of it.

39:53SPEAKER- Any old sentence?

39:54SPEAKER- And that's basically what they're doing, right?

39:56SPEAKER- Yeah.

39:57SPEAKER- So anyway, it's I, yeah, I'm always surprised.

40:04SPEAKERThe interesting thing to me is that there's a huge gap

40:07SPEAKERbetween what people who understand how the AI stuff works,

40:10SPEAKERhow they feel about it, and how people who are just general

40:15SPEAKERcomputer users and are used to their phones getting better

40:17SPEAKERevery year and new software doing amazing new things

40:21SPEAKERand they take it at base value and it's absolutely shit.

40:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

40:25SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, if we're talking about every use of AI ever,

40:28SPEAKERI've used Whisper to transcribe some audio conversations

40:31SPEAKERas well.

40:32SPEAKERI was sticking more to the more generic generalized like,

40:36SPEAKERwell, like assistant is the word that they used

40:38SPEAKERin the question was the agents type thing.

40:41SPEAKER- So it was interesting.

40:42SPEAKERI did live streams of the Computex keynotes

40:45SPEAKERfor PC World last week, and the Nvidia one was like

40:49SPEAKERthree 30 seconds of consumer talk and then two more hours

40:55SPEAKERof AI stuff.

40:58SPEAKER- Yeah, that sounds about right.

40:59SPEAKER- Compared to last year, when like every time Jensen

41:02SPEAKERwould mention something, you'd get big claps and cheers

41:04SPEAKERfrom the audience.

41:06SPEAKERThis year he had to like mug for claps and like wasn't,

41:10SPEAKERpeople, he didn't talk about LLMs at all.

41:14SPEAKERHe'd switched, they'd switched to agentic stuff,

41:16SPEAKERwhich is the idea that you have multiple small agents

41:18SPEAKERdoing different tasks for you and they're all doing

41:20SPEAKERthe thing that they're good at theoretically.

41:22SPEAKERAnd people just weren't having it.

41:24SPEAKER'Cause I think a lot of folks feel burned at this point.

41:27SPEAKER- Anyway, understandable.

41:30SPEAKERQuestion from Patch, why does so many motherboards

41:32SPEAKERstill come with a combo keyboard and mouse PS2 port?

41:36SPEAKERIs their use really that widespread in 2025

41:38SPEAKERthat the people that do need it can't use

41:40SPEAKERa PS2 to USB adapter?

41:43SPEAKER- Well, PS2 to USB adapters are all specific

41:45SPEAKERto the keyboard you have.

41:47SPEAKER- Wait, what?

41:48SPEAKER- Yeah, so there's no spec for PS2 to USB.

41:51SPEAKER- What?

41:52SPEAKER- Yeah, so it's all like the one that comes

41:54SPEAKERwith one keyboard probably won't work with another

41:56SPEAKERunless it's the same vendor.

41:58SPEAKER- Is that due to pen out not being the same?

42:00SPEAKER- I believe so.

42:00SPEAKERI don't, it's like DVI had fallback for VGA

42:04SPEAKERbuilt into the spec.

42:05SPEAKERSo the adapters are universal.

42:08SPEAKERI don't, you know, PS2, I don't actually know about.

42:13SPEAKER- I've always heard, I don't know if this is,

42:15SPEAKERI think this is true.

42:16SPEAKERI've always heard that like they're technically faster,

42:18SPEAKERless latency because they're not having to go

42:20SPEAKERthrough USB stack, like pro gamers like to use PS2

42:23SPEAKER'cause it's like wired straight to the CPU, right?

42:25SPEAKER- I think they're hooked into DMA or something, right?

42:27SPEAKERSo it's like really low level access.

42:30SPEAKERFor a long time, PS2 had better end key rollover,

42:34SPEAKERmeaning you could hit like all the keys on your keyboard

42:36SPEAKERat once and it would work.

42:37SPEAKER- Right, I think that's been worked around in USB now,

42:40SPEAKERmore or less.

42:41SPEAKER- Yeah, modern USB implementations are fine on that front.

42:46SPEAKERThey are lower latency, they can be at least.

42:49SPEAKERThey don't provide as much power,

42:51SPEAKERwhich if you have a lot of lights and nonsense

42:53SPEAKERon your keyboard, it doesn't help you at all.

42:58SPEAKERA lot of it's just for backwards compatibility stuff.

43:00SPEAKERThere's a lot of old, like if you have,

43:02SPEAKERsome people have need for old machines running ancient OSs

43:05SPEAKERthat may not support USB.

43:08SPEAKER- Yeah, speaking of motherboards,

43:10SPEAKERthis is an interesting email or sorry,

43:13SPEAKERthis is a Discord question from Superblueowljump.

43:17SPEAKER"My father last year fell for some social engineering

43:19SPEAKER"of the sinister kind.

43:21SPEAKER"It was an event that led to the hacker/scammer

43:24SPEAKER"having full remote access to his computer

43:26SPEAKER"for at least 40 minutes to an hour."

43:28SPEAKEROh boy.

43:29SPEAKER"Luckily, before real financial harm was done,

43:31SPEAKER"he had realized he had been duped.

43:34SPEAKER"Since he had such a serious breach,

43:36SPEAKER"I told him not to turn the computer back on

43:38SPEAKER"unless it was not connected to the internet.

43:41SPEAKER"Luckily he had everything backed up,

43:43SPEAKER"but I was worried that since they had

43:44SPEAKER"such unprecedented access,

43:46SPEAKER"I wondered how far they could have tainted

43:48SPEAKER"any of his hardware on top of just his hard drives.

43:51SPEAKER"I had read that anything could potentially be compromised,

43:54SPEAKER"so my father decided to build a new machine.

43:57SPEAKER"Now he has a box of computer parts

43:59SPEAKER"that I wonder if they're actually salvageable.

44:01SPEAKER"What do you think?

44:02SPEAKER"Other than the hard drives,

44:04SPEAKER"would you think even the motherboard was safe to use?

44:06SPEAKER"I'm hesitant to build anything with those parts,

44:07SPEAKER"but I'd hate to throw away parts if they can be used."

44:11SPEAKERAnd that's it.

44:12SPEAKEROh, actually, sorry, there's a PS here.

44:13SPEAKER"My father was able to save his identity,

44:15SPEAKER"accounts, and the like over the course of a few weeks.

44:18SPEAKER"What a pain in the ass."

44:20SPEAKER- Yeah, the hard drive is suspect.

44:24SPEAKER- Yeah, is it?

44:26SPEAKER- Well-

44:27SPEAKER- I feel like if you de-ban it

44:27SPEAKERor a similar secure erase, you're probably fine.

44:31SPEAKER- Well, yeah, you could also set it up and install it,

44:34SPEAKERand connect it to a machine and do a virus scan on it,

44:41SPEAKERlike run a real virus scanner on it,

44:43SPEAKERand clean whatever the problem is.

44:45SPEAKER- If you do a low-level wipe,

44:47SPEAKERI would, I mean, because if you wipe the media on the drive,

44:50SPEAKERyou're probably fine unless they were able

44:52SPEAKERto somehow compromise the firmware on the drive,

44:54SPEAKERwhich I feel like is probably a pretty big stretch.

44:56SPEAKER- That's higher level hacking, probably.

44:59SPEAKER- 'Cause I'm assuming each one of those exploits

45:01SPEAKERwould be unique to whatever model of drive

45:03SPEAKERor manufacturer you're using, but-

45:05SPEAKER- But at the same time,

45:06SPEAKERthey're like UEFI and boot exploits and stuff like that

45:08SPEAKERthat they could have put in,

45:09SPEAKERthat could have hit the motherboard.

45:11SPEAKERSo like-

45:12SPEAKER(mumbles)

45:15SPEAKERBootloader type exploits would still be on the drive,

45:17SPEAKERon the storage media. - I guess that's right, yeah.

45:19SPEAKER- Like the only thing, let's see, what is,

45:21SPEAKERI mean, I'm a little out of my depth here,

45:22SPEAKERbut like what is on a motherboard that can be compromised?

45:24SPEAKERThere's like the UEFI, there's non-volatile RAM,

45:28SPEAKERwhere like a lot of like temporary settings and stuff

45:30SPEAKERare stored, like secure boot keys and stuff like that.

45:34SPEAKERThere's probably something else writable,

45:36SPEAKERmaybe on a motherboard.

45:37SPEAKER- There's a whole category of UEFI malware

45:40SPEAKERthat runs in the firmware.

45:41SPEAKERLike if you really wanna be like the maximally safe here,

45:44SPEAKERI guess don't use any of it

45:46SPEAKERor don't use it for anything important, but like-

45:49SPEAKER- Well, I was gonna say like the video cards

45:50SPEAKERand the memory and stuff like that's totally fine.

45:52SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say.

45:55SPEAKERAnything but the motherboard and the drives should be fine,

45:57SPEAKEReven CPU and stuff like that.

45:58SPEAKER- Well, and I all, like I think you're correct

46:01SPEAKERthat they can low-level format the drives

46:02SPEAKERand it'll probably be okay.

46:03SPEAKER'Cause like realistically,

46:04SPEAKERthey're not gonna have firmware, malware for hard drives

46:09SPEAKERon like a normal phishing job, right?

46:11SPEAKER- Right, right.

46:12SPEAKERI mean, like if you really wanna talk about

46:14SPEAKERlike what the plausible threat model is here

46:16SPEAKERfor the amount of time they had access to it,

46:18SPEAKERI'm guessing that like, no offense to your father,

46:21SPEAKERbut compromising like an elderly person's,

46:23SPEAKERI'm assuming they're somewhat elderly,

46:25SPEAKERlike an older person's computer,

46:26SPEAKERlike the identity theft aspect is A, the most valuable thing

46:31SPEAKERand B, such low hanging fruit in a case like this

46:34SPEAKERthat they probably didn't have the time or the inclination

46:38SPEAKERto really compromise the hardware is my guess.

46:40SPEAKERYou know what I mean?

46:41SPEAKERLike going after the accounts is where the money is.

46:43SPEAKERSo that's, I would assume what they spent their time doing.

46:46SPEAKER- Well, and they probably had access

46:47SPEAKERfor longer than you thought.

46:49SPEAKER- That's possible.

46:50SPEAKERThat is actually, yeah.

46:51SPEAKER- Probably they had access and then did active phishing

46:54SPEAKERafter they like got to that one on the to-do list.

46:57SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, we should probably say

46:58SPEAKERwe are absolutely not cybersecurity experts.

47:01SPEAKERThis is just, these are our gut feelings.

47:03SPEAKERMy gut feeling is that outside the motherboard

47:05SPEAKERand the drives, everything is absolutely totally fine.

47:08SPEAKER- Yeah, and I would, I mean, there's ways to set up,

47:12SPEAKERthere's ways to test the drive

47:14SPEAKERand to get the stuff off the drive if you want.

47:16SPEAKERBut if you had backups that were current,

47:18SPEAKERI would just trash the drive

47:19SPEAKERand then everything else should be fine.

47:22SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, especially if we're talking about

47:24SPEAKERlike not a bleeding edge expensive machine,

47:27SPEAKERit's probably worth it for the peace of mind

47:29SPEAKERto just move on.

47:31SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, worst case you could pop the EPROM

47:33SPEAKERoff of the motherboard and put a new BIOS on there

47:36SPEAKERand then you're good to go.

47:38SPEAKER- Yep, I have one more hardware question here.

47:42SPEAKERRKHarris62, if you were building a gaming PC

47:45SPEAKERaround an AMD 9950 X3D and wanted to daily drive Linux on it,

47:49SPEAKERwhat video card would you pick?

47:52SPEAKERAn AMD 9070 XT, do Nvidia cards play well enough with Linux?

47:57SPEAKER- So I've been doing desktop Linux with an Nvidia card

48:01SPEAKERfor the last couple of weeks now and it's fine.

48:04SPEAKER- Well, my hunch, yeah.

48:06SPEAKER- That's distro specific, I think is what we should say.

48:09SPEAKER- It is, yeah.

48:10SPEAKER- It is my somewhat limited experience,

48:12SPEAKERbut I've tried Nvidia on two or like three

48:14SPEAKERor four different distros on something like Hashi OS

48:17SPEAKERor Pop OS where they handle the driver stuff for you,

48:20SPEAKERit's totally fine.

48:21SPEAKERLike they just handle it.

48:23SPEAKERBut if you're gonna like, you know,

48:26SPEAKERif you're gonna like do a component install of Debian

48:30SPEAKERor Arch from the ground up from the command line,

48:33SPEAKERlike you're gonna have to do some work

48:34SPEAKERto make the Nvidia card work.

48:36SPEAKER- But I mean, that work is often

48:37SPEAKERjust adding a repository and then pulling down the package

48:40SPEAKERand installing the package and running a script.

48:42SPEAKER- Even on Arch where it worked quite smoothly,

48:44SPEAKERI still had to sit there on the Wiki

48:45SPEAKERand figure out exactly which packages to install.

48:47SPEAKERAnd the Debian install was a giant mess

48:50SPEAKERthat like I wasn't picking up the video driver.

48:53SPEAKERLike you have to-

48:54SPEAKER- Well, Debian has some specific requirements on the GPL

48:57SPEAKERthat are gonna be incompatible

48:58SPEAKERwith a lot of the Nvidia drivers.

48:59SPEAKER- I mean, there's that, I mean, that's just adding

49:01SPEAKERthe non-free repositories to Debian

49:03SPEAKERto get those things to pick up.

49:04SPEAKERThe bigger complication there is that there are,

49:07SPEAKERthere's an open source driver set for Nvidia

49:09SPEAKERon Linux called Nuvo.

49:10SPEAKER- Right.

49:11SPEAKER- And that's what most of those distros ship by default

49:13SPEAKERbecause they're free and open source.

49:15SPEAKERAnd getting it, this is a lot,

49:18SPEAKERand Linux is a lot if stuff is not automated for you,

49:21SPEAKERyou basically have to like blacklist the Nuvo drivers

49:25SPEAKERto get it to pick up the Nvidia closed source drivers.

49:28SPEAKERSo like, and Debian was not doing that correctly

49:31SPEAKERand it was all like the bigger picture thing here

49:35SPEAKERis that problems can arise.

49:37SPEAKERBut if you're gonna use one of the distros

49:39SPEAKERthat handles everything for you,

49:40SPEAKERI think Nvidia is perfectly fine.

49:41SPEAKERBut if the 9070 XT is like roughly the level of performance

49:46SPEAKERyou're looking for at the price you want to pay,

49:49SPEAKERlike AMD just works on Linux by and large

49:51SPEAKERbecause its drivers are truly open source

49:53SPEAKERand like you're definitely gonna have an easier time.

49:57SPEAKERBut like, if you really want Nvidia card, I don't think

49:59SPEAKERlike using it in Linux should stop you.

50:00SPEAKER- Well, I was gonna say the, so pick the distro,

50:04SPEAKERlike it's gonna inform you to destroy choice

50:06SPEAKERunless you want to get into the weeds on it.

50:07SPEAKERI would advise getting something that handles

50:09SPEAKERthe Nvidia drivers for you.

50:11SPEAKERIt also makes doing upgrades.

50:14SPEAKERLike basically you're tied to when the video card drivers

50:17SPEAKERare updated to do kernel updates and stuff like that.

50:19SPEAKERLike with the open source AMD drivers,

50:21SPEAKERyou can just update whenever and it works itself out

50:23SPEAKERis my understanding.

50:24SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't, I'm curious a lot of you,

50:27SPEAKERa lot of Linux users on the discord, like I said,

50:29SPEAKERpop OS and cache EOS are the two that come to mind

50:32SPEAKERas ones that just handle Nvidia for you.

50:34SPEAKERI wonder, I'm wondering what other,

50:36SPEAKERwhat other big distros are out there.

50:37SPEAKER- It handles Nvidia for you now.

50:41SPEAKERA lot of the more user friendly, like user facing stuff

50:46SPEAKERlike Ubuntu and stuff like that, you can, there are,

50:49SPEAKERthere are packages that you can install easily

50:52SPEAKERthat will handle the Nvidia drivers for you as well.

50:54SPEAKERAnd it may be that you get the nouveau drivers

50:56SPEAKERinstead of the blob drivers, but.

50:58SPEAKER- Yeah, like I said, I think most distros

51:00SPEAKERare shipping those out of the box, but then anyway.

51:02SPEAKER- Yeah, for what it's worth, I think the open source drivers

51:04SPEAKERare also blob drivers too, right?

51:06SPEAKER'Cause there's still like a package that's not open

51:09SPEAKERin there.

51:10SPEAKER- That is the case, the, I don't, I'm actually curious

51:13SPEAKERwhat the practical difference is.

51:14SPEAKERWhat like Nvidia drivers used to be completely closed source

51:16SPEAKERon Linux and like you just said,

51:19SPEAKEReven when they went open, like the actual core of the drivers

51:22SPEAKERis still closed.

51:23SPEAKERSo I don't know how much that's actually helped things.

51:25SPEAKER- Yeah.

51:26SPEAKER- I believe, if I'm not mistaken,

51:27SPEAKERI think there's a tiny RISC-V processor

51:29SPEAKERon the graphics card that handles,

51:31SPEAKERthat executes the driver blob, if I'm not mistaken.

51:35SPEAKER- I think so, yeah.

51:38SPEAKER- That's just a fun fact for you, I suppose.

51:40SPEAKER- RISC-V, it's everywhere, man.

51:42SPEAKER2026, you're RISC-V, that's what we always say.

51:45SPEAKER- I think it was last year, or I think it started already.

51:48SPEAKER- I mean, yeah, it's definitely started already.

51:52SPEAKERBit flipping, what are some good ways

51:54SPEAKERto hide sensitive information on your screen

51:56SPEAKERwhen recording videos or streaming?

51:58SPEAKERI've thought about making videos of myself

52:00SPEAKERas I work on home lab or cloud stuff,

52:02SPEAKERbut I'm always concerned about making sure

52:04SPEAKERI have a good way to redact sensitive items

52:06SPEAKERlike credentials or certain data elements

52:08SPEAKERthat could help docs me in the future.

52:11SPEAKERI don't know that there is a good live solution for that.

52:14SPEAKERI think you, if you're, and if you're recording offline

52:17SPEAKERto post later, I think your solution is to go back

52:19SPEAKERand edit things out.

52:21SPEAKER- I mean, the good live solution is to never put anything

52:24SPEAKERon the screen that you're gonna want to not show everyone.

52:27SPEAKERRight, it requires mental discipline.

52:28SPEAKER- I just, I don't know if that's actually even feasible.

52:33SPEAKERI've always thought if I were to do something like that,

52:36SPEAKERI would probably make a separate dummy Windows account

52:38SPEAKERto sign into to do the streaming on.

52:41SPEAKER- Well, so I've done that stuff in the,

52:42SPEAKERso as somebody who's streamed a fair amount

52:44SPEAKERof Windows stuff in the past,

52:45SPEAKERit's often having the fake Windows account

52:49SPEAKERmeans that you're not actually getting the stuff

52:51SPEAKERthat you want for the recordings.

52:52SPEAKER- That's the concern is you may not have access

52:54SPEAKERto enough stuff for that to be useful.

52:56SPEAKER- Yeah, I, one of the things I do,

52:59SPEAKERso OBS lets you capture, for example,

53:03SPEAKERyou can capture individual applications,

53:04SPEAKERyou can capture desktops, you can capture

53:08SPEAKERyour entire desktop, right?

53:11SPEAKERI am very thoughtful about when I capture

53:13SPEAKERthe entire desktop because that will pull in things

53:17SPEAKERlike notifications and overlays

53:20SPEAKERand all of the different weird things

53:22SPEAKERthat you have on your screen

53:23SPEAKERthat you maybe don't want people to pop,

53:24SPEAKERlike you don't want your signal notifications

53:26SPEAKERpopping up on a stream, right?

53:28SPEAKERIf you capture just your Firefox window

53:30SPEAKERor just your terminal window or whatever,

53:32SPEAKERthen you can do that.

53:33SPEAKERThe other benefit of doing that is you can have those Windows

53:35SPEAKERon different displays of capturing the individual windows

53:38SPEAKERand you can do things like have transparency.

53:39SPEAKERSo like if you're doing a stream that involves CLI work,

53:42SPEAKERyou can have your terminal window captured separately,

53:44SPEAKERhave its opacity turned down.

53:47SPEAKERSo it's just kind of overlaid

53:48SPEAKERon top of whatever your normal screen is.

53:51SPEAKERAnd the overlay that your viewers see

53:54SPEAKERand what you see are completely different,

53:56SPEAKERwhich can be handy.

53:58SPEAKER- Yes, here's a fun fact about signal notifications.

54:00SPEAKERThere's a setting in signal that lets you remove the body

54:03SPEAKERof the message text from your notifications.

54:06SPEAKER- Yeah, I, yeah.

54:07SPEAKER- That obviously makes the notifications less useful

54:10SPEAKER'cause you can only see who's sending a message,

54:11SPEAKERnot what they're sending, but you can,

54:13SPEAKERI've got that turned on so that,

54:15SPEAKERbut that's just one app that doesn't help globally,

54:18SPEAKERof course.

54:19SPEAKER- Yeah, and I also don't want people knowing

54:22SPEAKERlike the notifications,

54:24SPEAKERlike who I'm getting them from or anything like that.

54:25SPEAKER- Right, I mean, obviously you don't wanna capture

54:27SPEAKERyour notifications regardless,

54:28SPEAKERbut it's just a fun fact for you.

54:30SPEAKERBut yeah, so it's just a fraud.

54:32SPEAKERIt's just a minefield.

54:32SPEAKERLike there's really no good answer.

54:35SPEAKERThere's no cure all for that.

54:36SPEAKER- Well, yeah, and things like having your password manager

54:40SPEAKERin your Chrome, in your browser and stuff like that

54:43SPEAKERmeans that you're two steps away from showing your username

54:46SPEAKERand stuff like that.

54:47SPEAKERSo you just have to, you have to be really thoughtful

54:49SPEAKERand plan stuff in advance and I would do some recording

54:53SPEAKERbefore you start trying to live stream.

54:55SPEAKER- Yes, yes, I have had this exact same thought of like,

54:58SPEAKERI wonder if I should do some videos of home labby.

55:01SPEAKERI don't love the word home lab,

55:02SPEAKERbut you know what I mean, that type of stuff.

55:04SPEAKERBut like, but I did the exact same thing

55:05SPEAKERas this question is asking is the thing that stops me.

55:10SPEAKERAll right, annoyed and tired.

55:12SPEAKERThis is an interesting question.

55:15SPEAKERAlthough the first part has nothing to do with the question.

55:17SPEAKERI love Boston Illegal.

55:19SPEAKERI wish there was a modern day show

55:20SPEAKERwhich echoed that drama, maybe The Good Wife,

55:22SPEAKERbut I haven't watched it.

55:24SPEAKER- I watched a lot of The Good Wife when it was new

55:25SPEAKERand it was fine, but not that.

55:28SPEAKER- All right, I am itching for some more courtroom

55:31SPEAKERdrama action now.

55:33SPEAKER- We should go back and watch Ally McBeal.

55:35SPEAKERIt's what the kids crave.

55:37SPEAKER- Is there a lot, was there a lot of actual court

55:38SPEAKERin that show?

55:40SPEAKERI've never seen it.

55:41SPEAKER- There was a fair amount of court.

55:43SPEAKERIt was like, it was the normal format

55:44SPEAKERwhere there's like a little bit of office drama

55:45SPEAKERand then the act two climax was always in a courtroom.

55:50SPEAKER- Yeah, that's fine.

55:51SPEAKERYou want, I mean, you definitely want

55:53SPEAKERsome out of court action as well.

55:55SPEAKER- Trying to think, what is the,

55:59SPEAKERwell, the blacklist is more of a crime thing

56:01SPEAKERI think than a courtroom thing.

56:04SPEAKER- Yeah.

56:05SPEAKER- I don't know, there's not a lot of courtroom stuff

56:07SPEAKERthese days, NCIS I guess maybe?

56:09SPEAKER- Yeah, maybe.

56:10SPEAKERLike I've seen practically all of Law and Order,

56:12SPEAKERI've seen all of Boston Legal.

56:14SPEAKER- You know, Brad, we're aging into the Matlock zone now.

56:17SPEAKERAnd I believe that Kathy Bates' Matlock is on.

56:21SPEAKER- What?

56:21SPEAKER- Yeah, did you not know this?

56:23SPEAKER- Wait, Kathy Bates is Matlock now?

56:24SPEAKER- So I've been watching, I've been watching some stuff.

56:28SPEAKERI've been watching Voyager on Paramount Plus

56:30SPEAKER'cause I never watched it before.

56:31SPEAKER- Okay.

56:32SPEAKER- And boy, man, that has the roughest first season

56:35SPEAKERof any Star Trek I've ever seen, I think.

56:37SPEAKER- Yep, yep.

56:38SPEAKER- But yeah, there's, as a part of this,

56:40SPEAKERI get to know about the new stuff coming on CBS.

56:43SPEAKERAnd Kathy Bates is playing Matlock starting last September.

56:48SPEAKER- Wow, I kind of like the idea that Matlock

56:50SPEAKERis like a James Bond sort of,

56:51SPEAKERit's like more of a role than a name.

56:54SPEAKERLike whoever, like 20 years from now

56:57SPEAKERwill be on the fifth Matlock.

56:59SPEAKER- Yeah.

57:00SPEAKER- It'll be somebody totally, it's like a Doctor Who situation.

57:01SPEAKER- She's, hold on, the premise is wealthy retired lawyer

57:06SPEAKERMadeline Kingston returns to practice seeking justice

57:09SPEAKERfor the death of her daughter Ellie in the opioid epidemic.

57:13SPEAKERKingston gets a job using the alias of needy widow,

57:17SPEAKERMaddie Matlock.

57:18SPEAKERAt the law firm, she believes hid evidence

57:20SPEAKERthat she could have saved her daughter's life.

57:23SPEAKERTo gain the firm's trust, she must first apply her intellect

57:25SPEAKERto helping her colleagues with other challenging cases.

57:28SPEAKERThis is pretty good.

57:29SPEAKER- Yeah, I might have to check that out.

57:31SPEAKERIt was really fun being, it was like one of the,

57:33SPEAKERprobably maybe the most valuable like educational thing

57:36SPEAKERabout this experience was comparing all of my preconceptions

57:40SPEAKERabout how court works from watching so much courtroom drama

57:43SPEAKERto how it actually works, that was a fun.

57:46SPEAKER- I liked that the first thing they say

57:47SPEAKERwhen they sit you down in the jury,

57:48SPEAKERevery time I've been in for jury selection,

57:49SPEAKERthey're like, this is nothing like what you see on TV.

57:52SPEAKER- Interesting, we didn't get that,

57:53SPEAKERbut I wouldn't say it's not,

57:56SPEAKERI would say it's mostly not like what you see on TV.

57:58SPEAKERThere were a few dramatic moments, but.

58:00SPEAKER- Oh my God, Brad.

58:02SPEAKER- Within the universe of the series,

58:03SPEAKERthe original Matlock series aired

58:05SPEAKERas it did in the real world.

58:06SPEAKERAnd Ellie's love of the series inspires Madeline's alias.

58:11SPEAKER- What?

58:13SPEAKERThat's incredible.

58:14SPEAKER- That's very good.

58:15SPEAKER- Huh, all right.

58:17SPEAKER- They call her Maddie.

58:18SPEAKER- That's pretty good.

58:20SPEAKEROkay, all right, here is annoyed and tired's actual question.

58:23SPEAKER- Okay.

58:24SPEAKER- My question surrounds resolution.

58:26SPEAKERMythbusters is available on max and it's gotten me thinking,

58:29SPEAKERat what point do you think the resolution

58:31SPEAKERbecomes a detriment and takes away from your experience

58:33SPEAKERof whatever media you're considering?

58:35SPEAKERI think it's 720p.

58:38SPEAKER- I think that pre 1080p stuff is hard to watch on a 4K set.

58:43SPEAKER- I mostly agree with you,

58:45SPEAKERbut I think I mentioned this a few weeks ago.

58:46SPEAKERI watched all of the last season of The Practice,

58:48SPEAKERspeaking of courtroom dramas, a few months ago,

58:52SPEAKERand that only ever came out on DVD, that's 480p.

58:55SPEAKERAnd it doesn't look great.

58:58SPEAKERYou know, I have a 4K TV, it does not look great,

59:00SPEAKERbut also you kind of stop, or at least, you know,

59:02SPEAKERthat show I think was shot on film.

59:04SPEAKERLike it looks good other than being low resolution.

59:06SPEAKERSo like, I kind of just stopped noticing it

59:08SPEAKERafter 20 minutes.

59:10SPEAKER- I think animation probably does better in a lot of cases.

59:14SPEAKER- Sure.

59:15SPEAKER- Like old, especially like hand drawn line art animation

59:18SPEAKERscales up pretty nicely, even with shitty scalers.

59:21SPEAKERI also think this is variable based on how good the scaler

59:24SPEAKERin your TV is.

59:25SPEAKER- That's probably part of it, yeah.

59:27SPEAKER- I don't know, like my intellectual answer to this

59:30SPEAKERis 1080p, like I don't want lower than 1080p,

59:32SPEAKERbut again, after that experience of watching The Practice,

59:35SPEAKERlike in practice, I don't think it actually matters

59:37SPEAKERas much as my brain tells me that it does.

59:40SPEAKERBut I agree, like if it's 720p, you're gonna notice

59:44SPEAKERlike something would still be watchable, but not great.

59:48SPEAKER- I also, like, I mean, I think to your point,

59:53SPEAKERI think I like, I think I don't care as much if the, like,

59:59SPEAKERbased on the content, right?

1:00:00SPEAKERLike what I'm watching matters here.

1:00:02SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, like if it's a movie that you're like,

1:00:06SPEAKERI don't know, I'm not quite sure how to put this.

1:00:07SPEAKERLike if it's a movie that you're really interested in

1:00:09SPEAKERor that you really want to take seriously,

1:00:10SPEAKERyou want to watch it in the best quality possible.

1:00:12SPEAKERBut if it's some old TV show or whatever,

1:00:15SPEAKERthen like whatever is fine.

1:00:17SPEAKER- Like when we watched Pirates of Silicon Valley,

1:00:18SPEAKERmy copy of that was ripped off of TV, I think,

1:00:21SPEAKERoff of a TiVo and it was 480p and it was fine.

1:00:25SPEAKERLike it didn't impact that.

1:00:26SPEAKER- That never came out above DVD, I don't believe.

1:00:28SPEAKERI'm like, that was watchable.

1:00:30SPEAKERAlthough that, I believe that was shot on film.

1:00:32SPEAKERThey should put out a 4K version

1:00:34SPEAKERof Pirates of Silicon Valley.

1:00:35SPEAKER- I watch old Muppet shows.

1:00:37SPEAKERThey're 480, they're off DVD reps.

1:00:40SPEAKERI have a buttload of, now that Looney Tunes is off of Max,

1:00:45SPEAKERI've been digging out the old Blu-rays

1:00:48SPEAKERand I have a bunch of DVDs that I ripped of Looney Tunes

1:00:51SPEAKERshorts and they all look fine.

1:00:53SPEAKERSo yeah, maybe it's fine.

1:00:55SPEAKER- Yeah, all right.

1:00:56SPEAKERI think this is going to be our last one

1:00:58SPEAKERbecause it's a very long one.

1:01:00SPEAKERGoing back to the emails here.

1:01:03SPEAKERI'm not quite sure how to approach this

1:01:04SPEAKERbecause there are about a dozen questions in this email.

1:01:08SPEAKERMaybe I'll just read the whole thing

1:01:10SPEAKERand then we'll try to address it all holistically.

1:01:12SPEAKERIt's the duck one.

1:01:14SPEAKER- I didn't think we were going to do this.

1:01:15SPEAKERNobody highlighted it.

1:01:16SPEAKER- Yeah, but it's too good not to.

1:01:18SPEAKER- Like it's very ducky.

1:01:19SPEAKER- There are too many different angles to approach this from.

1:01:22SPEAKER- It's got some strong Tony Soprano vibes here.

1:01:25SPEAKER- Dave and Sheffield, I assume the one in the UK.

1:01:29SPEAKER- I would assume.

1:01:30SPEAKER- But I don't know for sure.

1:01:31SPEAKER- Do they have ducks in the UK?

1:01:32SPEAKERI thought it was more of a swan place.

1:01:33SPEAKER- I don't know.

1:01:35SPEAKERI guess we're about to find out.

1:01:36SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:01:37SPEAKER- I'm in the fortunate position

1:01:38SPEAKERthat finally in my forties, I can buy a house.

1:01:40SPEAKERA big criterion was proximity to some ducks and geese

1:01:43SPEAKERthat we feed with veggie scraps.

1:01:45SPEAKER- I love this.

1:01:46SPEAKERAn interesting item on your wishlist, but okay.

1:01:51SPEAKERBut we were even more fortunate to find a house

1:01:53SPEAKERwith a river at the bottom of the garden,

1:01:54SPEAKERwhich makes duck feeding a lot easier.

1:01:57SPEAKERI'm planning on setting up a live stream of the river

1:01:59SPEAKERand its wildlife and wondered if you have opinions

1:02:01SPEAKERon the following or learnings from Will's bird stream.

1:02:06SPEAKEROkay, I already have a Power River Ethernet CCTV cameras

1:02:09SPEAKERwith night modes.

1:02:11SPEAKERSo the plan would be to set up OBS scenes

1:02:13SPEAKERfrom the different cameras and use a script

1:02:15SPEAKERto switch them every 10 minutes.

1:02:18SPEAKERI ran outdoor cable through my last garden,

1:02:20SPEAKERbut only to one camera.

1:02:22SPEAKERThis time, do I have the PoE switch indoors

1:02:24SPEAKERand run multiple long ethernet cables through the garden?

1:02:27SPEAKEROr do I run one ethernet and one mains cable

1:02:31SPEAKERthrough to a shed further down the garden

1:02:33SPEAKERand have the switch in there

1:02:34SPEAKERwith shorter runs to the cameras?

1:02:36SPEAKERI'd like a microphone,

1:02:38SPEAKERbut actual outdoor mics are expensive.

1:02:40SPEAKERCan I 3D print an enclosure that would keep a Power River

1:02:43SPEAKEREthernet Raspberry Pi Zero and microphone

1:02:45SPEAKERprotected enough from the elements

1:02:47SPEAKERand generate an RTMP audio stream onto the network

1:02:50SPEAKERto add them to the scenes?

1:02:52SPEAKERI feel like syncing video and audio from that might be tough,

1:02:55SPEAKERbut anyway, I'll finish the email first.

1:02:57SPEAKERI have a spare Haswell laptop,

1:02:59SPEAKERbut I'm not confident that even with Quick Sync,

1:03:01SPEAKERit can handle OBS.

1:03:03SPEAKERI could put a spare 1060 in my NAS

1:03:05SPEAKERpowered by a Ryzen 5600 and run it from that,

1:03:10SPEAKERbut would rather not be running OBS directly on it

1:03:14SPEAKERDoes OBS work okay in a VM?

1:03:16SPEAKERThe host is Debian, so I guess that would be KVM.

1:03:19SPEAKEROr do I just pick up a second hand M1 Mac Mini?

1:03:22SPEAKERLastly, what do you think the chances are

1:03:24SPEAKERthat with something like this is,

1:03:26SPEAKERthere's a lot in this email.

1:03:27SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:03:28SPEAKER- Lastly, what do you think the chances are

1:03:30SPEAKERthat with something like Ko-fi or people are pronouncing

1:03:32SPEAKERcoffee. - Coffee is how you,

1:03:33SPEAKER'cause it's like you give people a coffee, yeah.

1:03:36SPEAKER- Something like coffee,

1:03:37SPEAKERI may be able to have a trickle of income from it

1:03:39SPEAKERto pay for duck food, equipment upgrades,

1:03:42SPEAKERand maybe even a small contribution towards the mortgage.

1:03:45SPEAKER- I love this.

1:03:46SPEAKERThis is some clutch side hustle here from Dave.

1:03:49SPEAKER- It would be trivial to add a ticker

1:03:51SPEAKERthat thanks the contributors.

1:03:53SPEAKERThe dream, I guess,

1:03:53SPEAKERis that people start naming the regular ducks

1:03:55SPEAKERand then I can make merch and completely cover the mortgage.

1:04:00SPEAKERBut realistically,

1:04:01SPEAKERI'm not expecting this to be more than something fun

1:04:03SPEAKERfor me to tinker around with.

1:04:05SPEAKERI think it's good to have measured expectations

1:04:08SPEAKERand then see where it goes.

1:04:09SPEAKER- Yeah, fun to tinker around with is a good goal here.

1:04:12SPEAKERI think covering the mortgage is probably not realistic.

1:04:14SPEAKER- Do this for the fun of it first.

1:04:16SPEAKERAlthough, like, if I talk about the otters on this podcast,

1:04:19SPEAKERI know I've brought them up on Nextlander.

1:04:20SPEAKER- Are we talking about the Aquarium otters?

1:04:24SPEAKER- These are domestic otters in Japan.

1:04:27SPEAKER- Oh, no. - Apparently Japan

1:04:28SPEAKERhas like very narrow laws that in some circumstances

1:04:31SPEAKERit's legal to own otters as pets.

1:04:33SPEAKER- Wow, the otter closed those loopholes.

1:04:36SPEAKER- They should.

1:04:39SPEAKERThere is a pair of otters that are huge on YouTube

1:04:41SPEAKERand they do sell merch around those otters.

1:04:43SPEAKERAnd I actually wonder if in fact those otters

1:04:46SPEAKERare paying for their owner's mortgage in that case.

1:04:48SPEAKER- I will tell you, I follow some chinchillas on YouTube.

1:04:52SPEAKERI follow Marine Mammal Rescue,

1:04:56SPEAKERwhich has an otter cam, 24/7 otter cam on Twitch.

1:04:59SPEAKER- Okay.

1:05:01SPEAKER- I follow some guinea pigs.

1:05:03SPEAKERThere's a guinea pig farmer that has just like

1:05:05SPEAKERan enormous herd of like a hundred guinea pigs

1:05:08SPEAKERthat all live in this.

1:05:09SPEAKERBrad, they have a barn.

1:05:11SPEAKERAnd it's like one of those sheds you put in your backyard

1:05:14SPEAKERand it has shelves on the side.

1:05:16SPEAKERAnd when they open the door to the shed in the morning,

1:05:17SPEAKERthere's just like a hundred guinea pigs

1:05:19SPEAKERat the edge of the sheds looking at them and being like,

1:05:22SPEAKERhey man, where's my lettuce and broccoli?

1:05:24SPEAKER- That's great.

1:05:26SPEAKERI do have to jump in here.

1:05:27SPEAKERI'm not absolutely not accusing anyone of anything here,

1:05:30SPEAKERbut like the whole idea of monetizing animals

1:05:32SPEAKERdoes make me feel a little bit icky because again,

1:05:35SPEAKERnot accusing anyone specifically,

1:05:37SPEAKERbut it feels like the kind of thing

1:05:38SPEAKERwhere if there were a lot of money in it,

1:05:39SPEAKERyou would immediately.

1:05:40SPEAKERIn fact, this probably already happens.

1:05:42SPEAKERLike you would have people getting the animals

1:05:44SPEAKERin order to make money from them,

1:05:46SPEAKERnot because they want to care for the animals.

1:05:47SPEAKERLike, you know what I mean?

1:05:49SPEAKER- The ones that I like of this are ones that are clearly

1:05:52SPEAKERlike we have a farm where we have animals and stuff.

1:05:54SPEAKER- It's like, hey, we already had the animals

1:05:56SPEAKERbecause we love the animals,

1:05:57SPEAKERwhich is the right reason to have the animals.

1:05:59SPEAKERWe decided to put a camera on them, but like it does,

1:06:02SPEAKERit's almost like the showbiz kid sort of problem, you know?

1:06:06SPEAKER- Well, it's interesting 'cause like the chinchilla,

1:06:08SPEAKERthe woman who has the chinchillas does some terrible videos,

1:06:11SPEAKERbut the chinchillas are fun.

1:06:13SPEAKERAnd like she does a lot of like chinchilla advocacy

1:06:16SPEAKERin the line of, hey, these are difficult pets.

1:06:20SPEAKERLike she makes it very clear,

1:06:22SPEAKERlike every fifth video or something is like,

1:06:23SPEAKERthese are difficult pets.

1:06:25SPEAKERYou shouldn't get these if you don't know what you're doing.

1:06:26SPEAKERLike you have to keep the house at 60 degrees

1:06:28SPEAKERor else they die.

1:06:31SPEAKERWell, 'cause they're from the Andes.

1:06:32SPEAKERSo they're insulated for cold.

1:06:35SPEAKER- Yes, I knew about the chinchillas like dust bathing thing,

1:06:38SPEAKERwhich is its own whole can of worms.

1:06:41SPEAKER- Yeah, I feel like, so anyway,

1:06:43SPEAKERI feel like there's a positive,

1:06:44SPEAKERthere's a way to do this and have it be okay.

1:06:46SPEAKER- Again, like I said, I'm not,

1:06:51SPEAKERnobody's involved here. - No shame.

1:06:52SPEAKER- I'm not, again, like talking about anybody involved in this

1:06:56SPEAKERor anybody that we know or anything like that.

1:06:58SPEAKERIt's just like, I have absolutely less than zero tolerance

1:07:02SPEAKERfor people who mistreat animals for profit.

1:07:05SPEAKER- Oh yeah, no doubt.

1:07:06SPEAKER- And that kind of thing, so.

1:07:07SPEAKER- You know what I mean?

1:07:08SPEAKERBut like, so in the example here, the duck cam,

1:07:10SPEAKERI think is-

1:07:11SPEAKER- Oh yes, this is totally 100% fine.

1:07:13SPEAKER- Totally kosher.

1:07:14SPEAKER- This is like a thing

1:07:16SPEAKERthat I have not observed directly here.

1:07:18SPEAKERIt's just something that occurs to me anyway.

1:07:21SPEAKER- Well, so, okay.

1:07:22SPEAKERSo the POE CCTV sealed weatherproof cameras are good.

1:07:27SPEAKEROne of the things I didn't know

1:07:28SPEAKERis that every time you open those,

1:07:29SPEAKERpretty much like they're usually packed with silica gel

1:07:32SPEAKERto keep condensation from forming

1:07:34SPEAKERinside the sealed housings.

1:07:37SPEAKERAnd that silica gel has a lifetime.

1:07:39SPEAKERSo like, especially if you leave it open for a while,

1:07:41SPEAKERit'll suck moisture from the air

1:07:42SPEAKERand you have to then like replace those silica gel packets

1:07:45SPEAKERwhich you can get Amazon or hardware stores or whatever.

1:07:47SPEAKER- Sure, I'll mention real quick,

1:07:49SPEAKERsince I guess we're gonna go kind of go through this

1:07:51SPEAKERline by line here, but he mentions having OBS switch scenes

1:07:57SPEAKERon a timer every 10 minutes.

1:07:58SPEAKEROne thing I've actually wondered about,

1:08:01SPEAKERI never had any actual interest in doing a guinea pig cam,

1:08:04SPEAKERbut people would ask for it often enough

1:08:05SPEAKERthat I kind of thought through what it would take

1:08:07SPEAKERto set it up when they would ask.

1:08:09SPEAKERI always wondered if there were a way,

1:08:11SPEAKERand you'd probably need a plugin for this

1:08:13SPEAKERor like have to build it yourself,

1:08:15SPEAKERif there were a way to use some kind of motion detection

1:08:19SPEAKERor even like image recognition to have it switch scenes

1:08:21SPEAKERbased on what's happening on each feed.

1:08:24SPEAKERSo like track the motion,

1:08:26SPEAKERlike whichever one's got the most motion going on,

1:08:27SPEAKERor even like this point you could probably use

1:08:30SPEAKERsome computer vision to like recognize basic animal shapes

1:08:33SPEAKERand try to maybe automate having it focus

1:08:37SPEAKERon whatever is the most interesting.

1:08:39SPEAKER- So, yeah, there's a tool called Advanced Scene Switcher.

1:08:44SPEAKERIt's a stock OBS plugin that ships with OBS.

1:08:48SPEAKER- Oh.

1:08:49SPEAKER- And you can build macros with that

1:08:51SPEAKERthat can fire from any number of other things.

1:08:54SPEAKER- Oh.

1:08:55SPEAKER- Now, you may or may not,

1:08:59SPEAKERso there's two things I was gonna say.

1:09:00SPEAKEROne is having it switch randomly

1:09:01SPEAKERis gonna make people crazy or on a timer,

1:09:04SPEAKER'cause like people will get upset

1:09:06SPEAKER'cause they'll be watching something

1:09:07SPEAKERand then the timer will switch

1:09:08SPEAKERand then they'll lose it for 10 minutes.

1:09:09SPEAKER- Yep.

1:09:11SPEAKER- What I would do is maybe set up a,

1:09:13SPEAKERyou can do hotkeys on this scene switcher thing.

1:09:16SPEAKERSo then you can run a bot on your Twitch or YouTube channel

1:09:19SPEAKERthat watches for bot commands

1:09:21SPEAKERand triggers those hotkeys on the computer.

1:09:23SPEAKER- Oh, yeah.

1:09:24SPEAKER- So you can put that on hands of mods or let people vote.

1:09:28SPEAKEROnce you have it in a bot,

1:09:30SPEAKERyou can do all sorts of weird scripting stuff with it

1:09:32SPEAKERthat makes a lot of things easy.

1:09:34SPEAKERYou can, like I said, you can do timers.

1:09:37SPEAKERYou can do scenes that are like quads.

1:09:40SPEAKERYou can do a scene that's a quad

1:09:42SPEAKERthat you let people switch into one of the blow ups

1:09:45SPEAKERand then times back after like 10 minutes

1:09:48SPEAKERand then when people do it again,

1:09:49SPEAKERlike there's all sorts of ways you can do that.

1:09:52SPEAKERI don't think they have machine vision stuff in here,

1:09:56SPEAKERbut I also think it would be fairly easy

1:09:58SPEAKERto have a machine vision thing,

1:10:00SPEAKERlike to pipe these streams out to a machine vision thing

1:10:03SPEAKERand then trigger hotkeys

1:10:05SPEAKERthat trigger your scenes switcher stuff.

1:10:07SPEAKERSo that's one of them.

1:10:10SPEAKERI just did one cam on the bird cams

1:10:12SPEAKERthat I had up on my front yard.

1:10:13SPEAKER- Of course, that means the nest is such a small area

1:10:15SPEAKERto cover that one is probably plenty there.

1:10:17SPEAKER- Yeah, and there wasn't room to put a second camera in.

1:10:20SPEAKERThere's a person that does, it's funny,

1:10:23SPEAKERthere's a person that posts things on TikTok

1:10:25SPEAKERdown in Moss Beach, which is the next town south

1:10:28SPEAKERdown the coast from me.

1:10:30SPEAKERAnd they have a backyard that butts up

1:10:32SPEAKERagainst the protected wildlife, the protected forest.

1:10:36SPEAKERAnd they just sit in their backyard

1:10:39SPEAKERat seven o'clock in the morning

1:10:40SPEAKERuntil like nine o'clock in the morning with their phone

1:10:42SPEAKERand drinking coffee and watching animals.

1:10:47SPEAKER- That sounds pretty good.

1:10:48SPEAKER- This morning they posted a thing

1:10:50SPEAKERwith a whole family of skunks

1:10:52SPEAKERthat just tromped into their backyard.

1:10:54SPEAKER- Okay.

1:10:55SPEAKER- They're sitting there in the chair,

1:10:56SPEAKERthey're chittering around, they're walking up underneath them

1:10:58SPEAKERand moving around and all this.

1:10:59SPEAKERAnd then they're like, okay, well,

1:11:00SPEAKERas long as they don't make any noise, they're cool.

1:11:02SPEAKER- All right.

1:11:03SPEAKER- And the skunks just walked off.

1:11:04SPEAKERThey see coyotes and all sorts of stuff.

1:11:05SPEAKERSo you could also start this manually

1:11:07SPEAKERwith you just sitting there with your phone

1:11:10SPEAKERwhere you can see the ducks and see if there's interest.

1:11:13SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:11:14SPEAKER- The outdoor cable, doing the outdoor cable,

1:11:21SPEAKERthe best practice is to put it into a plastic conduit

1:11:24SPEAKERand put that up six inches under the ground,

1:11:26SPEAKERjust trench it in with a trenching shovel.

1:11:29SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:11:30SPEAKER- But you can also just run the wire

1:11:30SPEAKERif you don't care about it.

1:11:32SPEAKERIt won't last as long, but that's probably fine for this.

1:11:35SPEAKER- Yeah, I get the annoyance

1:11:38SPEAKERwith having to run a bunch of long cables through the yard,

1:11:41SPEAKERbut like putting a switch in a shed immediately.

1:11:44SPEAKERAnd I guess it depends on the type,

1:11:45SPEAKERhow environment proof the shed is,

1:11:47SPEAKERbut putting like expensive electronics,

1:11:49SPEAKER'cause you're talking about a POE switch there.

1:11:51SPEAKER- Just a hundred bucks probably.

1:11:53SPEAKERPutting a nice switch out in a shed

1:11:55SPEAKERis maybe a little sketchy to me.

1:11:57SPEAKERSo I might lean toward multiple long runs

1:12:00SPEAKERto the cameras from the house.

1:12:02SPEAKERI don't know.

1:12:02SPEAKER- So I bet you can buy POE switch enclosures.

1:12:05SPEAKER- Yeah, probably.

1:12:07SPEAKERYeah, you're probably right.

1:12:08SPEAKER- Yeah, Altalex has them that are weatherproof

1:12:12SPEAKERspecifically for this purpose.

1:12:14SPEAKERSo yeah, I would do one run in the switch

1:12:20SPEAKER'cause it's a pain in the,

1:12:21SPEAKERI don't know if you've run a hundred feet of cable

1:12:22SPEAKERbefore out in the yard, but it's a lot of trenching.

1:12:25SPEAKER- Yeah, like it's definitely cleaners.

1:12:26SPEAKERJust run one out to a switch.

1:12:28SPEAKER- And when I say trenching for this,

1:12:30SPEAKERI'm talking about literally like stomping down

1:12:32SPEAKERon your shovel, wedging out a wedge of dirt

1:12:35SPEAKERand like putting the cable in the bottom of that slit

1:12:38SPEAKERthat you make and then just pushing it back down

1:12:40SPEAKERwith your foot over on top of it.

1:12:41SPEAKER- Would you ever put just Bearcat sticks

1:12:44SPEAKERin the dirt like that?

1:12:45SPEAKERI know you said a conduit is ideal or preferable,

1:12:48SPEAKERbut is that an option?

1:12:50SPEAKERI wonder how resilient that is.

1:12:51SPEAKER- So we did Bearcat six at my parents' farm.

1:12:55SPEAKERIt was probably cat five at the time in like 2000.

1:12:59SPEAKERAnd it was still there when they sold the place

1:13:01SPEAKERthree years ago and working.

1:13:03SPEAKERYeah, so they used it for the barn cams

1:13:05SPEAKERso that when they had a mare that was foaling,

1:13:07SPEAKERthey didn't have to get up

1:13:08SPEAKERand walk over to the barn every hour.

1:13:10SPEAKERAnd yeah, it worked fine.

1:13:12SPEAKER- That's cool.

1:13:14SPEAKER- The infrared.

1:13:15SPEAKERSo one thing I found is that the dome cameras

1:13:18SPEAKERthat have the infrared lights inside the dome

1:13:21SPEAKERare much, much more susceptible to the glass getting dirty

1:13:25SPEAKERand you not being able to see anything

1:13:27SPEAKERthan the ones that have the infrared lights outside the dome.

1:13:30SPEAKERSo that's the thing to think about.

1:13:33SPEAKERAnd like a big infrared flood will illuminate stuff at night