00:00SPEAKEROkay. You're going to want to hear this. I love hearing things. Okay. We'll buckle up then.
00:04SPEAKERI'm okay. Okay. I'm holding onto the chairs or chair arms. I'm ready to go.
00:08SPEAKERBut I think you should, this is a pursuant to a discussion last week about Zachtronics shutting
00:14SPEAKERdown. Oh yeah. Wait, I hope you don't know about that. Okay. Just act like you don't know about
00:19SPEAKERthis. I'm going to act real surprised. This is, this is from a user currently called
00:23SPEAKERVomikron Noxus on blue sky who skied at me. Uh-huh. They skated you?
00:31SPEAKERSure. They posted at me. That means they're on team skeet would be my guess, but I'm not sure.
00:35SPEAKERWe need a, we need a new word for posting on blue sky anyway.
00:38SPEAKERI just say posting. The blue sky came at me, both me and an account called Coincidence.Games.
00:44SPEAKERUh-huh. Get on each other's podcasts. Oh. So I clicked through to Coincidence.Games.
00:50SPEAKERYeah. Are you ready? Are you ready to hear this, this bio?
00:53SPEAKERI, I, I am, my breath is baited. Coincidence is a cooperative game studio
01:00SPEAKERcreated by ex-Zachtronics developers. Wait, cooperative?
01:03SPEAKERZach Barth is no longer teaching high school and is making games again.
01:09SPEAKERThat's amazing. You're, you're, you're making, uh, I don't think those wild arm motions you
01:14SPEAKERjust made are going to play on the, on the recording. Look, I, I Zoidberg armed there
01:18SPEAKERfor a minute, but, uh, yeah. So they already, they already have a new game up on steam of,
01:22SPEAKERbecause of course they do. It's not out yet, but it is. Yeah. Are you ready for this?
01:26SPEAKERYeah. What is it? What's it about? It is called Kaizen, a factory story. It
01:30SPEAKERappears to be a factory builder game about building giant robots.
01:34SPEAKERYeah. I am, uh, I am, my mind is blown. Like Gundam looking giant robots.
01:40SPEAKERIt would be slightly more blown if this weren't. So we talked about a bunch of stuff last week.
01:45SPEAKERThe only thing people have been talking about in the thread on the discord
01:48SPEAKERhas been Zachtronics games and programming games.
01:51SPEAKERRight. It's been a week. I actually, this is like maybe the first time this has ever happened. I
01:58SPEAKERhave not had time to look at last week's episode thread on the discord at all this week. So that's,
02:02SPEAKERthat's, that's kind of exciting to hear if people are excited about programming games.
02:06SPEAKERSo like people are hot for programming game content. It turns out, uh, I, on the programming
02:12SPEAKERgame front, I've been playing that farmer was replaced game that you mentioned casually as an
02:16SPEAKERaside last week. Yeah. I keep seeing you play that on discord and going, man, I should play that.
02:20SPEAKERI understand I'm working on a bubble sort algorithm right now.
02:24SPEAKERYeah. You told me that last night. First of all, first I went to the Wikipedia page for,
02:28SPEAKERfor bubble sorting and then learned what a bubble sword is.
02:31SPEAKERYep. I, uh, I learned how to, I made a, wrote a program that makes my computer, my game will
02:36SPEAKERplay snake indefinitely. Right. It has error. Yeah. Pretty much it, uh, it catches errors. It like,
02:45SPEAKERit like restarts when something gets broken into text and it's broken. And the difference between
02:52SPEAKERthis and other programming games that I played in the past, including a lot of the Zach chronic
02:56SPEAKERstuff is that the documentation for this is written by a human who understands how to teach
03:04SPEAKERpeople things. And like they do, they do a really good job of giving you the base level of knowledge
03:09SPEAKERthat you need to write something that will be broken, but intelligible and let you figure out
03:14SPEAKERhow to fix it, which is, which works really well for my brain. That sounds fun. And it's all Python.
03:20SPEAKERIt's basic, basically just Python syntax and stuff. Is it literally like, do they say that?
03:24SPEAKERCause like with a little bit of snippets of code on the steam page I saw looked pretty much
03:27SPEAKERindistinguishable, but I don't know if it's like actually literally. So you can use an external
03:32SPEAKEReditor that does Python like code coloring and all that. Oh, syntax highlighting. She just hooked VS
03:40SPEAKERcode into, into your game. You could just point it at your, at your, at your folder. It's not
03:46SPEAKERactual Python. I think there's a couple of things that are different, but for the most part it's,
03:52SPEAKERit's like you have to put colons at the end of, at the end of loops, you know, statements that start
03:56SPEAKERloops and functions and stuff like that. And, and brackets for establishing certain things and
04:02SPEAKERparentheses for other things and all that. It's, it's interesting because like my thing has always
04:08SPEAKERbeen that I understand enough about how this, like I took CS 100 in college. I understand how
04:12SPEAKERrecursion works and what an array is and stuff like that. But I don't, I I've never had anything
04:17SPEAKERthat helped me start with a blank page and turn that into something that's usable. Yeah. I mean,
04:23SPEAKERif that thing is teaching like basic sorting algorithms, then it's way more of a like literal
04:28SPEAKERteaching tool than I would have expected by a lot. So in, in fairness, when you get to the end of the
04:34SPEAKERpage, so the cactuses of the sorting algorithm thing, you can pick them up and move them. You
04:38SPEAKERhave to get them from like smallest in the bottom left to largest in the top right. And you can move
04:46SPEAKERthem, you can move them to an adjacent square, swap them with the thing in the adjacent square.
04:50SPEAKERAnd at the end of the, the kind of Wiki page for cactuses, it just says like, you get, basically
04:59SPEAKERit gives you documentation. Then there's a couple of hints at the bottom for the complicated things.
05:02SPEAKERAnd the hints say, you know, here's, here's a, here's a, the first one is always an English
05:07SPEAKERlanguage. Like here's a strategy, maybe think about this and write some pseudo code that'll,
05:11SPEAKERthat'll like, how would you solve this problem if you're writing it, describing that in English
05:16SPEAKERand then use that to generate your loops and stuff. The, the last one, the last hint is
05:21SPEAKERyo go look up sorting algorithms on Wikipedia and, and think about how you would apply one of those.
05:28SPEAKEROkay. Yeah. So anyway, it's, it's it's a, it's a trip. Like it's, I've, like I said,
05:36SPEAKERI played a ton of these games before, and this is the first one that, that I've felt like
05:39SPEAKERI'm learning something actionable instead of just playing a game about making algorithms about
05:45SPEAKERlogic. Yeah. That sounds awesome. One, one aside before we start this podcast, I have to mention
05:50SPEAKERyou said, you said phrase pseudo code. Yeah. In fact, I, as I just said, the phrase pseudo code,
05:55SPEAKERI almost did this. I've come to realize this week that when I read the word pseudo now,
06:00SPEAKERand I'm talking the actual, you know, he has in my head, I pronounce it su-do.
06:06SPEAKEROh, I thought you were going to say su-da. No. Like, uh, the creator of deadly premonition.
06:12SPEAKERSudu is taken. Oh no. Maybe I shouldn't play programming games.
06:18SPEAKEROh, I'm taking your VI away from you, Brad. I'm sorry.
06:25SPEAKERWelcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod. I'm Will.
06:53SPEAKERI'm Brad.
06:55SPEAKERI I'm stoked because this game is, is, has like a lot of like, it has 1500 reviews and it's
06:59SPEAKERoverwhelmingly positive, which means like 96% of a large number of reviews are positive on Steam.
07:05SPEAKERSo yeah, that's, that's great. I might fire it up this weekend. Maybe, maybe, maybe.
07:12SPEAKERI don't think they have a Mac version, but it plays really well on my laptop and it's
07:16SPEAKERgreat for like sitting there playing, uh, you could stream it.
07:20SPEAKERYeah, you could, you could stream valve needs to put out an arm native steam client for the Mac.
07:25SPEAKERLet's say for those of us, maybe who are not equipped to run X 86 code on their arm Mac anyway.
07:33SPEAKEROkay. So put sunshine on your PC and then run moonlight for arm on your Mac and then just stream
07:39SPEAKERto the PC and grab it there. There we go. Yeah. I'm going to say real quick also coincidence games,
07:44SPEAKERthe new Zach Barth, the new Zachtronics. Kaizen a factory story is not even their first game.
07:49SPEAKERThey already have a game released. Well, so it's called Ad Astra, a DD Astra.
07:55SPEAKERIt's a card game, right? Uh, Ad Astra is a math game about racing and a racing game about math.
08:02SPEAKERI love it. Well, there's a couple of like physical games. Um, lucky seven and chemistry set are both
08:08SPEAKERout. Yeah. They're selling like card games, man. The first coincidence game has seven user reviews.
08:13SPEAKERThis is a crime. Zachtronics deserves better. I didn't realize that Astra was actually out.
08:19SPEAKERYeah. It came out over a year ago as a matter of fact. Oh my God. Can we, can we just start,
08:24SPEAKERmaybe we should do programming game streams. Maybe we should just be Zachtronics game streamers full
08:29SPEAKERtime. I don't know if I want to subject myself to trying to figure out logic based stuff in front
08:35SPEAKERof an audience. Well, so I think the, so I've thought about streaming the farmer was replaced
08:42SPEAKERbecause, but, but also figuring it out as part of the thing that makes learning good for that.
08:48SPEAKERIf that makes sense. Sure. I mean, everybody's different, but like, and some people are going
08:53SPEAKERto be going like, yeah, of course. I'm sure you're just like, yeah, I bet. Just making excuses,
08:58SPEAKERbut like my brain just short circuits when I know that people are watching me do a thing,
09:03SPEAKERwhich immediately hamstrings how well I can do the thing. I remember it. But it's funny.
09:07SPEAKERThat doesn't happen. Like when you, I, I remember you famously playing super meat boy and doing one
09:12SPEAKERof those nightmare levels. Sure. And like you, you just, you just zone in, you get in there, man, the
09:18SPEAKERlevel of like, like if it's, if it's a purely reaction based manual dexterity style challenge
09:23SPEAKERlike that, or a geometry wars or something, yes. Like the blinders come on. Cause you kind of don't
09:27SPEAKERhave time to think about anything else, but if it's anything more contemplative and problem solving
09:32SPEAKERbased, like I'm just immediately like 30% of my brain activity is going to be focused on going,
09:38SPEAKEROh God, what are they saying about me? I bet they're all mocking me right now. And like,
09:42SPEAKERwell, puzzle games on stream are just not for me. So I, I did actually ask the discord for help with
09:49SPEAKERsome, some like basic construct stuff in the code, code, code channel the other day. Cause I didn't,
09:55SPEAKERI didn't understand the difference between Dick's dictionaries, lists, sets, and arrays in Python,
10:02SPEAKERin Python and tuples and tuples. Cause they all seem like basically the same thing.
10:07SPEAKERYeah. A dictionary, a dictionary is a key value pair set. Yeah. A list is a list is just a basic
10:13SPEAKERlist. A set. I think, I don't think I think set is the only one I've ever used before a set is
10:19SPEAKERordered there. I can't, I don't, I don't know what's up with the set and a tuple,
10:23SPEAKERa tuple is like ordered and fixed. Like you can't add to it, I believe. Well,
10:26SPEAKERtuples like a stacked variable basically. Cause some of those, and like, this is less of a concern
10:32SPEAKERin Python, but some of those come down to processing speed, you know, like some of them
10:34SPEAKERare more efficient for me. If you're really worried about shaving, like thousandths of a
10:39SPEAKERsecond off, like some of those are faster for me, like memory access standpoint than others.
10:44SPEAKERI have 16 cores. I don't, I don't need to be worried about fast.
10:48SPEAKERI mean, I'm, I'm, I'm a novice programmer. Like I shouldn't be opining in this manner, but,
10:53SPEAKERbut what I would say is if you're worried about that level of performance, Python is probably
10:57SPEAKERnot what you should be using in the first place. Fair. Brad, it's the last episode of the month,
11:03SPEAKERwhich means it's the time when, when we turn questions into answers, cues and days.
11:09SPEAKERIt's true. I've got a bunch right here. Yeah. If you have a question, you can send them to
11:14SPEAKERtech pod at content.town. Or if you're in the discord, if you're a member of the fine
11:19SPEAKERPatrion community, you can go to patrion.com/tech pod, sign up, get access to the discord.
11:24SPEAKERAnd then you can go to the question seeking answers channel and post your questions. They'll
11:27SPEAKERdisappear, but we'll see them at the end of the month. We'll pull them out and we'll turn them
11:31SPEAKERinto a Google docs document that then gets either bolded or highlighted depending on who
11:38SPEAKERis enthusiastic. Occasionally both bolded and highlighted. Yeah. That's a double whammy of
11:43SPEAKERa question. We do, we do have that God-like power to reach into the void and retrieve questions that
11:48SPEAKERhave swirled into the ether. They've let loose the mortal coil for everyone but us. And then we,
11:54SPEAKERwe can pull them back from the brink. All right. Let's just jump right into it. I've got a bunch
11:59SPEAKERhere. Start with emails. This is from Bob in Mars, Pennsylvania. After a number of years, I finally
12:07SPEAKERdecided to cut the cable cord. During the cancellation process, the customer service
12:12SPEAKERrepresentative told me that my equipment was too old and there was no need to return it.
12:17SPEAKERDespite him saying that, I do intend to return it just so they can e-waste it. However, the thought
12:21SPEAKERoccurred to me, is there, this question is extremely after my own heart. Thought occurred
12:26SPEAKERto me, is there a home brew or hacking community for these things? And is there some kind of
12:30SPEAKERinteresting reuse for it, such as a media server? I did some quick Googling and didn't come up with
12:35SPEAKERmuch. It looks to be your standard modern TiVo box made by Pace and as a revision of the XG1P series.
12:43SPEAKERYeah. So I, I looked this up when this question came up and I do not think that there's anything
12:49SPEAKERyou can do with that short of removing components from the board and taking the hard drive out.
12:55SPEAKERYeah. Yeah. I'm looking at one on eBay for $14.99 right now. It's
13:00SPEAKERdoes not look especially extensible to me. Also like at Pace, Pace is not even a consumer
13:08SPEAKERfacing company, right? I assume like, like any, any, any electronics maker with a name that just
13:12SPEAKERsounds like it's the last name of the founder is probably only making B2B equipment to go to
13:17SPEAKERtelcos and stuff like that these days. Yeah. And often these are locked to the provider
13:22SPEAKERthat you bought them from. So yeah, sadly, I don't believe that you can do anything
13:29SPEAKERwith an old cable box. It's e-waste for sure. Take it from me who chronically makes this mistake,
13:34SPEAKERjust e-waste it yourself or, or send it back to them, let them do it. But like,
13:37SPEAKERyou're probably not going to find a use for that. I, I wasn't joking when I said this question was
13:42SPEAKERafter my own heart, because it's not been two weeks since I went in the networking channel on
13:45SPEAKERthe discord because I turned up my old Motorola surfboard SB 6121. Remember that one? The classic,
13:55SPEAKERI think it's a DOCSIS 3.0. It's like, it's got it got curved, stands vertically. It's got a little
14:00SPEAKERgrade on the front. Yeah. Yep. Like the one everybody bought when I gave mine to a friend
14:04SPEAKERof mine, when I got fiber, I was, I was having, I had this exact question of, I was going through
14:09SPEAKERold stuff and I was like, okay, surely a cable modem has no use. Turns out you can turn old
14:15SPEAKERcable modems into software defined radios. Apparently. I was going to say, I wonder,
14:19SPEAKERI wondered if you could plug it into the cable cable and make TV come out of your walls.
14:24SPEAKERYou might be able to do that as well. I'm not sure, but also I barely understand what a software
14:29SPEAKERdefined radio is good for. I don't know if you have any insight into that question. It's funny
14:34SPEAKERyou bring this up because I have this analog TV sitting here and it has a couple of bunny ears on
14:38SPEAKERthe back. And as a result, I was looking into this and you can do something like turn on, make a TV
14:44SPEAKERchannel that only operates inside your house. You could say, make a thousand watt pirate AM radio
14:52SPEAKERstation that, you know, maybe operates, you know, the new voice of America, something like that.
14:58SPEAKERThat's the thing you could do theoretically. How far, how far do you think a thousand
15:01SPEAKERwatts? 20 miles. Really? In the evening, especially because of the way AM radio works,
15:07SPEAKERbut yeah, 20 miles up to 20 miles for a thousand watts. Enough, enough to maybe get the FCC's
15:12SPEAKERattention. Well, so the thing I was looking at is a thousand watt station is a kilowatt,
15:17SPEAKERwhich means you could power it on like an Anker battery pack. One of those big boys,
15:23SPEAKERwhich means what you could do is broadcast to that pirate radio, like go put that pirate radio
15:28SPEAKERstation up on a hill someplace, use it to broadcast every night from say, you know, eight to 10.
15:34SPEAKERAnd then when your, when your, when your 2000, when your 2000 watt battery runs down, you hike
15:42SPEAKERback up the hill and pick it up and move it someplace else. So it's broadcasting from a
15:46SPEAKERslightly different place the next day. It's making it difficult for the man to find you.
15:50SPEAKERIt's just like a modern day max headroom. I mean, kind of, yeah. I mean, I'm just, this is just a
15:55SPEAKERtheoretical thing. It's not something I've actually done any research in or really looked at, but it's
15:59SPEAKERthe thing you could do with a software defined radio. Yes, you could. If anybody, I mean,
16:04SPEAKERwe talked about it a little bit on the discord, but if anybody in this week's episode thread has
16:09SPEAKERsuggestions for what a software defined radio is good for, I would love to hear them.
16:14SPEAKERYeah. It's interesting. Cause I thought about doing TV stuff. I thought about doing like
16:17SPEAKERdigital TV with the software defined radio. Sure. And A the range is really bad on that.
16:23SPEAKERYou need a lot more power, but B nobody has antennas hooked up to their TVs. Hardly anybody.
16:29SPEAKERSo like your potential, but everybody has an AM radio in the car tuned to, tuned to 776 AM.
16:35SPEAKERYou know, that's all I'm saying. Does max headroom a reference that plays the, well,
16:40SPEAKERour audience is probably a slightly older. My daughter thought max headroom. I showed her
16:46SPEAKERpicture of max headroom once and she thought it was Ronald Reagan. So like she's halfway right.
16:50SPEAKERYeah. He kind of looks like the point break Ronald Reagan mask. Sure. Okay. You know,
16:58SPEAKERlike he was tighter. Yeah. Okay. I get it. I feel bad for the guy who had to wear that tight rubber
17:02SPEAKERmask. It had to be really sweaty in there. Yeah. Actually here's an email that follows directly
17:08SPEAKERfrom questions about how old our audience is from Joshua. I was wondering if you had any data you
17:14SPEAKERcould share about the demographic breakdown of your podcast audience by race, gender, profession,
17:19SPEAKERcountry, et cetera. I find this kind of thing extremely interesting and would love to know
17:23SPEAKERmore about the profile of a typical listener. Is this, is this email soliciting us? Well,
17:30SPEAKERthis is phrase is not entirely dissimilar to some of the cold email podcast solicitations we get.
17:38SPEAKERLet me tell you about my client, Steve AI man, who has a scammy AI company is desperately looking for
17:46SPEAKERpress. We can raise more money from unsuspecting investors. So I put this in because we don't
17:52SPEAKERactually collect, like we did a survey right when the show started. Cause we wanted to know a little
17:55SPEAKERbit about the audience just so we could make content that was appealing to you all. But we
18:01SPEAKERonly collect the minimum data that our, that our podcast host will let us like, there's a,
18:07SPEAKERthere's a, we do not pay for the yo, we're collecting a lot of data plan for our podcast,
18:13SPEAKERfor our podcast host. So like we know, like we have a map that shows downloads by location and
18:20SPEAKERthere's a big yellow blob over the United States and a little blob over Hawaii and Iceland, 16 of
18:26SPEAKERyou in Iceland, by the way, shout out. Yes. I've got, I've got the list here. I got the top 10
18:32SPEAKERcountries. If, are we comfortable sharing this data? I, I, I chose this data. Yeah. Okay. All
18:37SPEAKERright. Top 10 countries. Number one, United States with, and this is over, this might just be the
18:43SPEAKERlast seven days. I want to say of data. No, no, no, I'm sorry. This is all time. All time. Number
18:52SPEAKERone, United States with 61, roughly 61% of our audience. Number two, UK 10%. Yeah. Canada at
18:59SPEAKEReight and a half Australia, about five. And then it's Sweden, Germany, Norway, Netherlands,
19:05SPEAKERFinland, and Denmark are around out the top 10 in order of countries. So we, I have the all-time
19:14SPEAKERdownloads by location is what I'm trying to load right now. So we have a, we have a couple of
19:22SPEAKERdedicated listeners in Reykjavik. We have a lot of Swedish and Norwegian listeners. Oh, I didn't,
19:28SPEAKERI didn't. I see this, this heat map you're talking about now. Yes. Yeah. We have a couple of people
19:33SPEAKERin Johannesburg. It looks like South Africa and somebody in maybe Kinshasa. I can't tell. Oh,
19:39SPEAKERthere's a, there's actually kind of a lot of downloads from Africa. That's surprising.
19:43SPEAKERInteresting. In the last seven days, we've gotten seven downloads in Hanoi.
19:48SPEAKERYeah. One person downloaded the show from Victoria in the middle of the Indian ocean.
19:55SPEAKERNobody in Madagascar though. A couple in Sri Lanka, a bunch in India, a bunch in like
20:01SPEAKERSingapore and Malaysia. We've got, we've got one download each in a number of different
20:05SPEAKERprefectures in Japan. Yeah. Adelaide in on West Australia, a lot of New Zealand downloads too.
20:12SPEAKERShout out to Weta. Hi everybody. Two downloads in Jakarta. Yeah. Not very many Russian downloads.
20:20SPEAKERNo. Although I think there might be some, there might be some internet filtration at play there.
20:26SPEAKERI'm not sure. This is all time though. So I'd expect a few more. A fair number of South Korean.
20:31SPEAKEROkay. Not a lot of South America. Oh wait, no, no. They just popped in. Sorry. Yeah. So so yeah,
20:39SPEAKERbut we don't, we don't collect like a profession demographics. We have the cookie turned off as
20:45SPEAKERmuch as it'll let us. I think I do have Google analytics on the, on the thing mainly so that
20:51SPEAKERI can tell when something's not right with our indexing and make sure we're getting like,
20:55SPEAKERwe're getting indexed for search so that we show up when people search for tech bond.
20:59SPEAKERBut yeah, that's, that's pretty much it. And yeah, the most popular episodes of all time
21:08SPEAKERare actually, it's kind of a weird spread anyway. Yeah. So that's it. Most people download the show
21:13SPEAKERbetween midnight and 1 AM because that's when we post the show. That's when it posts. Yeah.
21:17SPEAKERAnother, another great demographic brought to you by demographics. And Oh, and we also do know that
21:23SPEAKERthe most popular listening methods, so Apple podcasts, number one, pocket casts, number two,
21:29SPEAKERovercast, number three podcast in radio addict, which I don't know what that is, is number four
21:35SPEAKERSpotify been doing a lot of growing over the last couple of years is up to number five.
21:40SPEAKERGoogle podcast is in sharp decline because it's not a thing anymore. Thanks. Google downcast,
21:46SPEAKERChrome, antenna pod, and simple cast, which is our host and the web player round out.
21:52SPEAKERYeah. I anecdotally, I know a lot of people that seem to be using Spotify. I mean,
21:55SPEAKERyou just said that, but like I just, in my personal life, I'm sure that, you know,
21:59SPEAKERpeople who already streamed from music from Spotify, it's quite easy to just go get your
22:02SPEAKERpodcasts in the same app. Yeah. My wife loves Spotify and I, I might just, my advice is don't
22:09SPEAKERuse Spotify to listen to podcasts. I've become a big overcast user. Is overcast the marker arm at
22:16SPEAKERone? Yeah. Yeah. I like overcast a lot. I think it's there's some, like I used to have this really
22:23SPEAKERgreat feature where you could make a list of your favorite podcasts and it would just play the most
22:27SPEAKERrecent one in order of the, like the most favorite podcast to the least favorite podcast. And for
22:33SPEAKERwhatever reason that hasn't worked for me in like three years, but I think it's because the carplay
22:36SPEAKERimplementation is bad anyway. Yeah. Yeah. I mainly use overcast because it is the,
22:43SPEAKERit is the least worst way to get podcasts directly onto your Apple watch.
22:48SPEAKERYeah. But even there, it's pretty rough. And he, he's been very explicit about, hey,
22:52SPEAKERI wish it was better transferring. And I'm talking about like quite literally moving the file to your
22:57SPEAKERwatch. So you don't have to be in range of your phone. Cause I like to go out to exercise without
23:00SPEAKERmy phone in my pocket. You know, the thing about turning off Bluetooth when you're doing the file
23:04SPEAKERtransfers, right? Yeah. So I, so I have to do that, but even then it's like infuriatingly consistent.
23:09SPEAKERIt's not great. He said he, he's been very explicit in saying like, Hey, Apple, like
23:15SPEAKERApple has insane, ridiculous restrictions on how you can kind of access data transfer to a watch.
23:21SPEAKERSo I wish this was better, but it's not, but yeah, like you have to, you have to download the file,
23:25SPEAKERyou have to download the podcast to the phone app, hope that they sync because like there is a manual
23:31SPEAKERsync, but it doesn't work every time. Sometimes you have to do it five or six times to get it to
23:34SPEAKERactually pick up the new podcasts. Then you have to wait for the podcast to start transferring over
23:38SPEAKERBluetooth to your watch, which is incredibly slow. And then like you said, you have to go onto the
23:43SPEAKERphone system settings, turn off Bluetooth, then the watch will fall back to wifi to download the
23:48SPEAKERpodcasts. Yep. But if the app goes to sleep, like if you literally have to hold, keep your wrist up
23:54SPEAKERlong enough for the podcast to download, because if the, if you like set your wrist down, so the
23:58SPEAKERwatch kind of goes into standby mode, it kills the downloads and you have to start all over.
24:03SPEAKERIt's all terrible. It is awful. Anyway. All right. I like this email from Scott.
24:12SPEAKERI was rewatching Robocop for the first time since I originally watched it as a probably
24:16SPEAKERtoo young child in the late eighties. A lot of the movie was very amusing for during a
24:21SPEAKERmodern viewing, the hyper violence eighties, tough guy stuff, grim corporate future, et cetera.
24:26SPEAKERWhat prompted this email was the insane data connector spike that comes out of Robocop's hand,
24:32SPEAKERthe middle finger, basically, which blew my mind at the various police stations,
24:36SPEAKERcomputer stuff already have that spike interface ready to roll for this prototype cop.
24:42SPEAKERI don't know if I'm betraying my ignorance and there is actually some data spike connector
24:45SPEAKERinterface, but I thought it would be funny to write and ask you guys to rate the Robocop
24:50SPEAKERmiddle finger data spike on the stack ranking of cables and connectors. Okay. So I looked it up.
24:54SPEAKERThere is no one has ever made a data spike connector. I kind of assumed that was the case.
24:59SPEAKERI did too, but I wasn't sure. I kind of want to, next time I see Phil Tippett,
25:06SPEAKERI'm going to ask him about this. Cause I'm kind of curious.
25:09SPEAKERYou know, Phil Tippett?
25:11SPEAKERLike, yeah. From Tested stuff.
25:14SPEAKERWow. Okay. I'm not surprised you've run into or like spoken to Phil Tippett in the course
25:22SPEAKERof doing Tested, but I wasn't expecting it to be at the level of dropping a next time I see Phil
25:27SPEAKERTippett. His kids are our age. So like mutual friends, right?
25:31SPEAKEROkay. I I've got Phil Tippett on the brain because we, for the next lander watch cast,
25:35SPEAKERwe just did a Jurassic punk documentary. It's about, it's about some very deep ILM early
25:44SPEAKERdays, like basically about the abyss to Jurassic park period of transitioning from
25:49SPEAKERmodel making and physical and practical effects to digital. And there's a specific guy at the
25:54SPEAKERcenter of that stuff who was a fascinating personality. And there was a lot of conflict
25:58SPEAKERthere. And so you should really watch that documentary.
26:00SPEAKERI'll have to look it up. There's also new ILM. There's a new season of the ILM thing
26:04SPEAKERon Disney plus right now, too.
26:05SPEAKERSo that came up when we recorded the, the watch cast for Jurassic punk,
26:08SPEAKERI was telling those dudes, like, you really should also go watch light and magic on Disney
26:13SPEAKERplus if you like this. And then the day after we recorded that I looked and they just ran,
26:18SPEAKERposted a season two of light magic, which I had no idea was even in production. So I have to watch
26:23SPEAKERthat. I think the season two one starts with the post star Wars stuff. So it's like, it covers the
26:27SPEAKERprequels. So it's, it's, it's Phantom Menace through kind of, it's only three episodes.
26:37SPEAKERWell, so the first season is animation, I guess the first season is like the founding of ILM
26:41SPEAKERthrough Jurassic park. Basically it's, it's, it's, it's mostly the model making practical era. And
26:47SPEAKERthen the transition, the digital through Jurassic park season two is only three episodes. And it's,
26:52SPEAKERI think it's like Phantom Menace and the prequels. And then it's like digital photography,
26:56SPEAKERyou know, cause that's when also they were, Lucas was using like literal prototype digital cameras
27:01SPEAKERto shoot episode two and three. And then I think the last one is sort of the rise of like truly
27:07SPEAKERviable competitors, ILM, like what a digital. I have to watch that stuff. I thought it's like,
27:13SPEAKERso extremely my shit. I still, I've, I've proposed this before,
27:19SPEAKERwhat if we did podcasts about that thing? Maybe we should watch light and magic and do podcasts
27:25SPEAKERabout it. I would do that. I thought I it's been a while since I watched the first season,
27:29SPEAKERbut it was really interesting. It was super interesting.
27:32SPEAKERNot to loop back. So, well, okay. Two things. Did you watch the thing that they showed on
27:38SPEAKERstar Wars, the making of star Wars that they showed on star Wars when they showed it on CBS,
27:43SPEAKERlike when, when CBS would show in the eighties, I think I ever watched star Wars on network TV.
27:50SPEAKEROkay. So after for star Wars and return of the Jedi, I don't think they ever showed empire
27:54SPEAKERstrikes back on TV or if they did, we missed it. Cause I didn't see empire strikes back until it
27:59SPEAKERwas available on like VHS years and years later. I'm pretty sure I've read about them doing it in
28:03SPEAKERthe late eighties, but well, so this would have been like the star Wars would have one would have
28:08SPEAKERbeen like 1982 or 83, probably it was whenever it was aired first and like literally it went from a
28:15SPEAKERshowing of the movie to a 30 minute or hour long special about how the special effects worked and
28:21SPEAKERhow they did the models. And they showed the motion cameras on the blue screen and then how
28:25SPEAKERthe compositing like they literally had like matte frames where they would show the way it was shot.
28:31SPEAKERAnd then they'd show it with the blue screen stuff replaced. And then they'd show it with
28:34SPEAKERthe star lines put in on the millennium Falcon cockpit and the whole thing, they talked about
28:39SPEAKERcreature makeup and like the whole, like it was, it was an incredibly formative piece of content
28:46SPEAKERfor me. And these ILM documentaries are as close as we've gotten to that since then. I wish that
28:51SPEAKERthose original CBS things were available still. Yeah. There's stuff like that on YouTube. I don't
28:56SPEAKERknow if that exact one that you're talking about is up there, but there are definitely like, and
28:59SPEAKERthen the YouTube headline usually has like rare or something in it. It's like rare network TV making
29:05SPEAKERof or whatever. And some of that stuff is floating around out there. So I've looked for it and haven't
29:09SPEAKERfound it, but I also haven't looked in a long time. You mean that specific one? Yeah, that specific
29:14SPEAKERone. Like I specifically remember a whole big sequence about how the lightsabers worked and
29:18SPEAKERthey show like Alec Guinness and David Prowse standing very still while somebody comes in and
29:25SPEAKERswitches the no hand lightsaber for the lightsaber and the whole man versus blade. Yeah. Yeah. So,
29:33SPEAKERso they did run empire strikes back on network TV in 1987. The reason I remembered that,
29:36SPEAKERand I just looked it up is because they got James Earl Jones to do specific voiceover for it.
29:41SPEAKEROh my God. Like, like there's NBC Sunday night at the movies. And then there's like stock B roll of
29:48SPEAKERDarth Vader while he's doing the voiceover telling you I'd have to watch it again, but it's something
29:53SPEAKERlike we have, we have intercepted your transmission. Do not, do not adjust your television set type
29:58SPEAKERstuff. Incredible. So to answer the other, like my assumption is that they made this data spike
30:04SPEAKERconnector because they looked at the skomp plug on R2-D2 in return to the Jedi. And we're like,
30:09SPEAKERwhat if that was a murder implement? What if you could, what if R2 could stab somebody to death
30:15SPEAKERwith his data port thing? I'm I'm, I guess I'm, I'm kind of impressed that, you know, what do you
30:19SPEAKERknow the name of a skomp link? Well, skomp links come up a lot in modern star Wars, it turns out.
30:25SPEAKERI'm straight up on, Oh, wait, this is, is this Wikipedia? No, this is fandom, not Wikipedia,
30:30SPEAKERbut I'm sure. I'm sure the work has a page on the skomp link as well. Anyway. Is that it? I feel
30:40SPEAKERlike I had something else to say about that. Oh, Oh yeah. I was, I was just going to say, I'm going
30:43SPEAKERto say a data connector that exists due to narrative purposes ranks pretty high for me.
30:48SPEAKERYeah. There's no downside, right? A data connector that could have been anything,
30:52SPEAKERbut is lethal because they needed it to be lethal. It's pretty good. Does he kill somebody
30:56SPEAKERwith that thing or does he just middle finger it? No, he a hundred percent puts that thing in
31:00SPEAKERsomebody's neck. Perfect. Yeah. It might be, is it Clarence Bockery kills with it? Oh, he gives
31:07SPEAKERhim the data. He gives him the spike. It might be, it might be, it might be Clarence that he
31:12SPEAKERtakes down with it. I forget. I haven't, I'm afraid to watch Robocop again. It scarred me.
31:16SPEAKERI'm going to, after watching that seventies show for years, watching Robocop is real weird.
31:21SPEAKERI'm going to say. I'm sure. I am sure. All right. Let's move to some discord questions here.
31:29SPEAKERJay Krauska writes in any suggestions for local tech buy, sell trade forums in the Bay area
31:36SPEAKERCraigslist is hard to sell tech stuff. Facebook marketplace yields a lot of, is this still
31:41SPEAKERavailable ghosts? I have a fair number of things I want to sell that would appeal more to a tech
31:45SPEAKERaudience. And I don't know where to sell them such as a stream, a stream deck, a steam deck,
31:51SPEAKERPlayStation portal, gigabit switches, et cetera. I actually also have this question and we can
31:56SPEAKERextend this beyond the Bay area, but I've also got, I've also got some stuff that's like kind
32:00SPEAKERof old that I want to get rid of, but it's still too new and valuable to just toss.
32:06SPEAKERYeah. I, I, I don't actually know the answer to this. I the Facebook marketplace is the place
32:13SPEAKERthat I always see this stuff, but as the person said, it's like incredibly it's, there's so much,
32:19SPEAKERit's a huge pain in the ass to sell something on Facebook marketplace.
32:22SPEAKERThat's the main reason I have not gotten around to doing this. I've got half a computer sitting
32:26SPEAKERhere. It's my, I did a big NAS upgrade like three years ago, and then a year later decided to
32:31SPEAKERupgrade a bunch more of it. So I basically got like half of a pretty modern functional computer,
32:36SPEAKERlike it's a Z690 board and stuff and RAM and a power supply.
32:40SPEAKERYeah. It's just getting better the longer it ages, Brad.
32:42SPEAKERRight. That's right. I mean, I should have sold it two years ago. It would have been worth way more,
32:45SPEAKERbut it's still like literally you need to plug like a CPU in and graphics card if you want better
32:51SPEAKERgraphics and it's basically a computer. So it's like too much to just toss.
32:54SPEAKERWell, so, so my wife has been going through and selling stuff on Poshmark lately, like just stuff
32:59SPEAKERthat we like clothes and stuff that she's gotten that she never wore once or something. And we need
33:05SPEAKERthat for nerds. Yes.
33:07SPEAKERLike we need, yeah, Poshmark equivalent.
33:10SPEAKERYeah. Maybe, maybe this is, this is more of a conversation starter than us having a definitive
33:14SPEAKERanswer for this. Maybe people on the discord can chime in.
33:17SPEAKERI, I do find that Craigslist is, is when Craigslist was good for tech stuff, it was awesome.
33:24SPEAKERI don't know that Craigslist is particularly good anymore.
33:28SPEAKERYeah. Like when I, when I've gotten on there to search for things that I was just curious
33:31SPEAKERif anybody was selling, I have not come up with a whole lot. Like I was looking for a little AV
33:35SPEAKERcart when I got the CRT and could not, could not find like, granted there are like, there are AV
33:42SPEAKERcarts on there, but they're like the giant, like came from a high school, like expensive ones. I
33:46SPEAKERjust, I need something smaller, but there was, there was not a ton to find.
33:49SPEAKERSo I will say the electronics flea market, if you have stuff,
33:52SPEAKEReven it's stuff that's relatively modern, it seems to move pretty well there. And I think you'll get.
33:58SPEAKEROh, am I going to become a seller at the flea market already?
34:02SPEAKERI look, it's a couple of the people we went with last week. We're talking about
34:06SPEAKERsetting up a table for the last one to just clear out the garages.
34:10SPEAKEROh man. What if we, what if we just do a collaborative table at the flea market and
34:14SPEAKERwe're just at the flea market all morning. Wait. But then we'd have to get there at like 6 AM.
34:18SPEAKERWouldn't we? I look, yeah, that's, that's the hard part, but also also, but donuts.
34:25SPEAKERSo, you know, you got that going for you. Yeah, that's true.
34:28SPEAKERIt could be like a tech pod meetup plus slash sell our old crap. Yeah.
34:32SPEAKERYeah. Oh, I'm, I'm still kicking myself. There was a guy, a guy had a stack of Meraki MR45s
34:39SPEAKERwhen we were there a couple of weeks ago, which is Meraki is like they're owned by Cisco now,
34:42SPEAKERbut they're like very high end enterprise network here. And I thought those were old access points.
34:48SPEAKERAnd then I got home and found out those are like wifi six access points. They're like quite new.
34:52SPEAKERAnd those looked like new inbox. I should've, I should've, I should've inquired about one of
34:57SPEAKERthose access points. I sometimes worry about that kind of stuff for fear. It's going to be locked
35:01SPEAKERto the admin account that you bought it. That was originally set up for. I brought that up
35:06SPEAKERon the discord and the network professionals were like, fuck Meraki. Like you have to,
35:09SPEAKERif they were claimed by the organization that used them, then you're like screwed basically.
35:13SPEAKERYeah. So you're not wrong. Yep. A question from fortune is the Microsoft can being canceled after
35:21SPEAKER48 days, the fastest tech product cancellation. What products do you remember that vanished from
35:26SPEAKERthe market almost immediately? And do you think any of them were actually good?
35:29SPEAKERThe Microsoft Ken's pretty fast. The Ken was a dumb phone that was a little bit smart.
35:35SPEAKERK I N to be clear. K I N it was I want to say it was the thing that
35:40SPEAKERJay Allard worked on after after X-Box or zoom. He went, he went to zoom after X-Box,
35:47SPEAKERbut he made me, maybe he was involved with this. Oh yeah. He's right here in the
35:50SPEAKERtop of the Wikipedia page. I think, I think he went from X-Box to zoom to probably this.
35:55SPEAKERSo I have, I have a Ken that they sent us for review and then when they canceled it,
36:00SPEAKERwe were like, Hey, do you want this back? And they were like, no, we're you're good.
36:04SPEAKERThis is weird. Cause it looks like a, it looks like a crappy iPhone 3g knockoff,
36:10SPEAKERbut then it, but then it slides up and has like the what were the, was it like a Nokia
36:18SPEAKERhelp me out here? Like a hip top. I'm just pulling the top danger.
36:23SPEAKERThe thing that I think that Jeff and Ryan always had, right? Yeah. It looks,
36:26SPEAKERit looks like the pre iPhone era of, you know, screen slides up and there's a keyboard underneath
36:30SPEAKERlike a physical keyboard. Like it's like that plus a crappy iPhone.
36:34SPEAKERWell, so, but also then the one that they made, they, they made two kids. They made the Ken one
36:40SPEAKERand the Ken two and the Ken two looked like a normal phone with a, with a danger hip top
36:44SPEAKERkeyboard that slid up. The Ken one was like a puck. Oh, you're right. You can push the screen up
36:51SPEAKERand the keyboard was underneath that. You're right. All of these pictures are of the Ken too.
36:55SPEAKERAlso, they, they spell out the number in the, in the product name, like Ken O N E and Ken T W O,
37:02SPEAKERwhich I think is like kind of nice branding. I mean, it's very of the time branding,
37:07SPEAKERI would say. Yeah. So that was pretty fast. I also think HP bought webOS from Palm
37:18SPEAKERand then they released some tablets and they killed those. Like I literally,
37:23SPEAKERthey released the tablets. I have one. Oh, you bought one of those? Yes. The HP touch pad,
37:29SPEAKERI believe was the product name. Right. Let me double check. That's yes. The HP touch pad.
37:34SPEAKERThose things got fire sale. Do you remember that? Oh yeah. Like they like, like you said,
37:39SPEAKERI didn't realize they were that short. I don't remember what the cycle was. God,
37:42SPEAKERI completely forgot about this whole thing. Yeah. Okay. It launched on July 1st, 2011.
37:47SPEAKERYeah. Which sorry, to be clear, that's like a year after the iPad. This is like,
37:54SPEAKERthis is like still very new for tablets at all. So it launched on July 1st, 2011 on August 18th,
38:02SPEAKER2011, they canceled it. So they would just give you all current devices running webOS.
38:08SPEAKERThat puts it at 49 days, which I think means the Ken is still the winner.
38:13SPEAKERI can't remember how much I paid for that thing, but I think it was less than a hundred dollars.
38:16SPEAKERIt was like you could get them for 99 or 150 bucks, depending on which, which, whether it
38:21SPEAKERwas the big one or the little one. And they, and to be clear, they launched at between five
38:25SPEAKERand $600. Yeah. iPad prices. So, so yeah, they were like the roughly iPad prices. And the next
38:31SPEAKERthing you knew you could get one for a hundred bucks. I, uh, I use webOS on it for a long time,
38:35SPEAKERwhich was fine. I ended up putting my Android on it at some point, which was also fine. Like that
38:39SPEAKERwas my tablet for a while before I got my first iPad. So the interesting thing is they had two
38:44SPEAKERcolor models, black and white, and the black one was slower than the white one. So the black one
38:50SPEAKERwas 1.2 gigahertz and the white one was 1.5. Oh, I got a black one, but, oh, well, sorry. You
38:56SPEAKERhad the crap one, right? Yep. Um, Trino 220. Wow. The, uh, the products that come to mind
39:04SPEAKERin a modern context, uh, here are the two little AI, like lapel pen, those things,
39:10SPEAKERdumb ass thing. Like one of them was a rabbit, something or other, you know what I'm talking about?
39:14SPEAKERAnd I cannot even remember the name of the other one. It came and went so fast.
39:18SPEAKERNot they were deeply unserious products. It was the, it was the rabbit R1 and God,
39:24SPEAKERit was a, it was a human humane. It was the humane AI and the rabbit R1, which both like
39:29SPEAKERaim and then died within like maybe shorter than this. I don't know. I actually, I think you can
39:36SPEAKERstill buy these. So maybe these don't, these haven't actually technically died yet. Yeah.
39:40SPEAKERThey're still looking for a new business, Brad, the, the touchpad had beats audio in it,
39:45SPEAKERwhich is funny because it's been before the Apple acquisition of beats. Sure. It was, it was,
39:51SPEAKERit was quite a fine, capable tablet for like, that was like a early days of Twitter. You know,
39:55SPEAKERif you just wanted to like browse Twitter and do some basic, basic consumption of internet,
40:00SPEAKERit was totally fine. They launched it in an event they called think beyond.
40:07SPEAKERI got maybe a little derivative think beyond 49 days. Yeah. Think beyond. Wow.
40:14SPEAKEROkay. There's a question from engineer Nate. I will confess. I did like
40:18SPEAKERfive minutes of research on this. Where do ISPs get their internet?
40:23SPEAKERThey pay back all agreements with other peer to providers.
40:27SPEAKEROkay. So you, you probably already knew that the same stuff I went and read is that they're
40:31SPEAKERbasically ISPs get their internet from bigger ISPs, which get their internet from like backbone ISPs,
40:37SPEAKERbasically. Yeah. There's always a bigger ISP is the lesson, right? Like the, like the backbone
40:41SPEAKERcompanies that basically comprise the base level of the internet are themselves just giant ISPs that
40:46SPEAKERonly really work in a B2B capacity with other companies. Yeah. They're like, they, they sell
40:52SPEAKERconnections between the big routers, like the big, big routers. The, the, we learned about this years
40:58SPEAKERago when there were, when I want to say the ISPs wanted to charge somebody, it was the back haul
41:06SPEAKERproviders. When Netflix started being a double digit percentage of all traffic on the internet,
41:11SPEAKERsomebody wanted to charge Netflix and the customer who was paying for their internet. Like they
41:17SPEAKERwanted to double dip on getting paid to carry Netflix across their networks. And they tried
41:22SPEAKERit for a little bit and it didn't go well for them. And people just, and it's, it went away
41:26SPEAKERimmediately because they, they realized they didn't have a leg to stand on. Cause like really
41:31SPEAKERthe only thing propping up Western democracy right now is Netflix. Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
41:40SPEAKERyou know, the internet by its nature is a big decentralized network. So, you know, I guess
41:44SPEAKERit stands to reason that at its core, it's just going to be a bunch of big or smaller networks,
41:49SPEAKEReven, even, even at the absolute base level, like it's still just going to be a bunch of
41:54SPEAKERnetworks plugged together. Well, and you'll find that a bunch of the,
41:57SPEAKERthe like different ISPs pay for different accesses to backhaul and stuff like that.
42:03SPEAKERCan you define backhaul? Does that just mean thing behind the thing?
42:09SPEAKERYeah. Backhaul just means the connection to the upstream network.
42:12SPEAKERYeah. I'm trying to, I'm trying to find the names of some, okay, here we go.
42:16SPEAKERList of tier one networks. AT&T, Deutsche Telekom, GTT, Liberty Global,
42:22SPEAKERLumen Technologies, which used to be CenturyLink, which was level three before that.
42:28SPEAKERNTT Communications in Japan. You've probably heard of some of these companies.
42:32SPEAKERYeah. Verizon is a tier one.
42:36SPEAKERAT&T.
42:38SPEAKERIs this all of them? This Wikipedia page, there's only like maybe about 15.
42:42SPEAKERI don't think there are a lot in the U S I don't know what the global situation is.
42:47SPEAKERYeah. Is Google on that list?
42:50SPEAKERThey are not. Yeah. Wow.
42:53SPEAKERThis, this table actually lists like fiber route and kilometers. Also AT&T has,
42:59SPEAKERsay AT&T has 660,000 kilometers of fiber. Apparently a lot of kilometers. That's a lot of
43:07SPEAKERfiber. Okay. There's, there's your very well researched answer to that question.
43:14SPEAKERCreeper JR, I'm getting a new phone soon, a Pixel 9a, and I do not want a bulky case this time
43:20SPEAKERaround. However, the last few phones I've had have been too slippery to just raw dog. Are you aware
43:26SPEAKERof any super thin cases or ways to apply texture so that the damn thing isn't so slick it might
43:31SPEAKERas well be covered in lube? This is a very provocative question.
43:35SPEAKERIt really is. Are our Pixels or Android phones going in the, are they have gone in the same
43:39SPEAKERdirection as iPhones? I hate how slippery modern iPhones are. Yeah. So I raw dog my phone.
43:46SPEAKERYeah. So I've also, after talking about it like five times, I finally did. I took the case off
43:52SPEAKERprobably about the beginning of the year and have not put it back on and it's feels good, right?
43:56SPEAKERWell, yes and no. I love how sleek it is. I don't like how slippery it is. Like I said,
44:00SPEAKERI do worry about fumbling it. I will say looking at the back, the main reason I had a case on it
44:06SPEAKERwas because they went to the glass back and I was worried if I assumed the glass would get like
44:10SPEAKERsuper duper scuffed and scratched up. I kind of don't see anything like this. The glass back looks
44:17SPEAKERkind of pristine to me. So I don't think like superficial damage is actually a good reason to
44:21SPEAKERhave a case anymore, at least on an iPhone. So, um, I would do screen protector for sure.
44:27SPEAKERReally? We've talked about this before. I've never, I've never put a screen protector on my
44:31SPEAKERphone because the glass is so resilient now. Well, so the micro scratches on the glass make me
44:36SPEAKERabsolutely crazy. That kind of doesn't bother me, I guess because I'm not outside with my phone that
44:41SPEAKERmuch. I mean, look, it's, I get it. I, um, so I'm looking up the thing that I have on my phone to
44:47SPEAKERmake it more holdable. Um, I, I do a magnetic ring that goes onto the MagSafe adapter.
44:54SPEAKEROkay. Um, I used to use an Anker one that I had to replace two or three times because the little
45:00SPEAKERflappy part of the ring wore off. I've actually switched to this Toros 2024, which is an Amazon
45:08SPEAKERstraight from China brand, I guess. Um, and it has a flip down ring that lets me use it as a stand,
45:14SPEAKERbut it also has this like silicone loop that I can kind of tuck my finger in, but also just having
45:19SPEAKERthe extra thickness on the back, like like a quarter of an inch of thickness is enough to
45:25SPEAKERmake it grippier for whatever reason. Or it's like, there's more, more stuff to hold on to.
45:30SPEAKERSo, um, I used, I believe it was in the iPhone eight era when I got an iPhone eight,
45:36SPEAKERwhich is the same design as my current SE3. I can't believe I'm on a 10 year old iPhone design
45:40SPEAKERstill. Uh, I used, it was made by dbrand. I think it was a vinyl skin, basically. Have you seen
45:47SPEAKERthese? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. They're like, they're like they they'll protect
45:50SPEAKERyour scratches too. Yeah, for sure. I mean, getting it on was a real pain. It's basically,
45:55SPEAKERit was all, it's kind of like an automotive wrap almost. It's basically like a vinyl wrap for the
45:59SPEAKERbackside of the phone. It just covers. It's like cut to cover the glass exactly without covering
46:04SPEAKERthe metal around the sides. Um, it works. I mean, like it definitely added some nice texture to the
46:09SPEAKERback of the phone and made it less slippery. Um, I could never file down like the sides felt like
46:15SPEAKERkind of like really sharp of the vinyl around. Yeah. Around the edges of where they cut the vinyl.
46:20SPEAKERAnd I, I think they even in the application instructions, like said, Hey, like rub it
46:25SPEAKERagainst cloth, like file down the size to make it nice and smooth. But like, I could never,
46:29SPEAKERI could never get it smooth on the edges where it didn't feel kind of a little bit gross to
46:33SPEAKERhold the phone. Um, I, uh, I also, uh, like I made fun of pop sockets for a really long time.
46:42SPEAKERAnd I think the pop socket has a real valid use in the modern context.
46:47SPEAKERYeah, sure. I can see it doesn't make them in the phone does not lie flat then, you know, whatever.
46:54SPEAKERUh, let's see question from num lock. When it comes to your backup Blu-rays and UHDs,
47:01SPEAKERI believe you guys have stated you will compress. Why I've always felt I want the highest quality
47:06SPEAKERon my plex and jelly fin. When you compress, are you seeing any difference? Am I nuts for having
47:10SPEAKERan 80 gig copy of Blade Runner 2049? You might be thinking, well, I don't compress actually. I do
47:16SPEAKERnot. When I, when I rip the rays, they just go straight on the server as is off the disc.
47:23SPEAKERYeah. I'm cheap. I don't want to have like a hundred terabytes of storage on my drives.
47:27SPEAKERYeah. Uh, also, I mean, you can compress anything down enough to where you can see a quality loss,
47:34SPEAKERbut also like if you're using remotely sensible compression settings, you're probably not going
47:41SPEAKERto be able to tell the difference, but, but I also am, I am uptight about it in the same way
47:46SPEAKERwhere I'm like, I just want the thing on the disc. I just want, I want to know there's no difference.
47:50SPEAKERWell, so, uh, for me, this started because I started out ripping DVDs,
47:55SPEAKERwhich were MPEG two compressed, and I would rip them to H two 64 at a equivalent bit rate,
48:01SPEAKERwhich gives you much better or sorry, smaller bit rate, which gives you much
48:05SPEAKERequivalent quality at a much lower size. Right. Um,
48:11SPEAKERI don't typically, if I want to watch some extended feature beyond the commentary,
48:16SPEAKERthat's on a disc, I get the discount and put it in because it's too hard to access that stuff.
48:20SPEAKERAt least for a long time now, now you have players that can do menus. Um, but for a long time
48:25SPEAKERaccessing stuff through the menus was hard. So you'd end up with like 300 tiny videos on your,
48:30SPEAKERon your folder or whatever. Um, yeah, these days when I rip discs, I rip them to two 65 or AV one,
48:38SPEAKERdepending on when I ripped them. And so I'm still going down a level for the most part in
48:44SPEAKERterms of what compression is available on. Like I'm using a more advanced compression algorithm
48:50SPEAKERthan I, that is on the disc. So you don't really lose anything, especially on the TV that I'm
48:55SPEAKERwatching on. Sure. This question has actually just become kind of academic for me because I
48:59SPEAKERkind of have stopped ripping at all. Like getting a 4k TV has made my entire collection of 1080p
49:08SPEAKERdisc rips feel like I, like I'm, I think I might be like one step away from actually just deleting
49:13SPEAKERall those rips of 1080p discs at this point. Like it just feels outdated. I might not delete them,
49:20SPEAKERI don't know, but like I I've completely lost the fire to actually like build a movie collection
49:25SPEAKERbecause the 1080p wouldn't feel, feel kind of outdated. Yeah. Or K ones are too big. Like I'm
49:30SPEAKERnot, I don't, I've never actually bought a UHD disc and I, even if I did, I would not rip them
49:35SPEAKERbecause the straight rips are gigantic. Like 50, 100 megs. Right. Yeah. Or he's not wrong when he
49:43SPEAKERsays Blade Runner is 80 gig, you can easily hit 80 or a hundred on a single movie if you don't
49:47SPEAKERrecompress it. And like that's, that's bananas. Like even with the amount of storage I have,
49:52SPEAKERI don't want to deal with that. So like, I might just kind of be done ripping discs. I don't know,
49:56SPEAKERor storing movies. I'm not sure. I'll go and tell you, I built a collection,
50:01SPEAKERa big collection in the DVD era. Yeah. You've, you've got a lot, I've seen your Plex,
50:05SPEAKERyou've got a lot of stuff on there. And then I made like, I have a smaller collection of Blu-rays
50:12SPEAKERand then I have a much, much smaller collection of 4k stuff, which is really funny because I
50:16SPEAKERdon't even have a fucking 4k TV. So yeah, I don't know. I'm not the right person to ask about this.
50:23SPEAKERYeah. I, so I, I like, there's a bunch of stuff that came out because DVD was so popular though
50:28SPEAKERfor such a long time. I have a ton of 480p DVD rips of things that have never been re-released
50:34SPEAKERon Blu-ray or streaming or all 4k or whatever. And as a result, like I'm going to keep those
50:41SPEAKERbecause also they're like 800, they're eight gigs or I mean the compressed files are one and a half
50:47SPEAKERgigs. So it's nothing. I recently super random, I watched the final season of the practice.
50:53SPEAKERDo you remember that show? The ABC show with William Shatner?
50:58SPEAKERSo he was on at the very end. So you might be thinking of Boston Legal.
51:01SPEAKERI'm thinking of Boston Legal. They're both, they're both David E. Kelly legal dramas.
51:06SPEAKERAlly McBealiverse. Oh God, did he do Ally? He did do Ally McBeal, didn't he? I guess that's
51:11SPEAKERlike probably still his biggest show actually. Think about that.
51:14SPEAKERI think the, I think the ABC lawyer shows probably bigger ultimately.
51:18SPEAKERMaybe. Boston Legal, Boston Legal is one of my favorite shows ever. It's the James Spader,
51:22SPEAKERWilliam Shatner, like, like buddy comedy. Like Spader is a very charismatic, but like very left
51:28SPEAKERwing, like social progressive, crusading lawyer. Shatner is a rifle toting Republican, but I mean,
51:35SPEAKERgranted like Bush Republican to be clear. Anyway, the practice, the practice introduced all those
51:41SPEAKERcharacters. Basically they like, I kind of feel bad for the cast of the practice because they
51:45SPEAKERhijacked, they hijacked their show to actually just set up another show that was about to start
51:50SPEAKERfor their entire final season. Anyway, that show never got released on anything but DVDs.
51:55SPEAKERSo like I had the experience of watching a 480p kind of MPEG-2-ish compress.
52:01SPEAKERIs that a 16x increase for your 4k TV?
52:07SPEAKERMaybe. Or is it 8x? It's an 8x.
52:10SPEAKER1080 to 4k is a 4x increase.
52:12SPEAKERYeah. And 480 to 1080 is, 480p to 1080 is a 4x. So it's 16.
52:18SPEAKERToo early to do that much pixel math in my head right now. But it was fine though. Like I like,
52:24SPEAKERyou know, very old compression. It wasn't just the low resolution. Like the compression is also
52:28SPEAKERpretty noticeable, but like certainly it looked ugly for about five minutes when I started
52:33SPEAKERwatching it. But after a while, I completely stopped paying attention to how old it looked.
52:39SPEAKERSo maybe quality, maybe resolution and quality are not actually all they're cracked up to.
52:44SPEAKERI mean, the thing is if the movie's good, the resolution doesn't matter as much.
52:48SPEAKERYes. That's for sure.
52:50SPEAKERIt's hard for me to think of James Bader as not the guy from the Blacklist now,
52:53SPEAKERwhich is really funny.
52:54SPEAKERI've never watched that. I think the Blacklist was the first show he did after Boston Legal,
52:58SPEAKERI could be wrong. I love James Bader.
53:01SPEAKEROh, wow. Okay.
53:02SPEAKERDoes anybody not love James? I mean, he's just...
53:04SPEAKERHe's delightful and weird.
53:06SPEAKERYes. That's what I mean. He's just a, he's a very high tier actor,
53:09SPEAKERlike a Sam Rockwell or something to me where he's just like, he's extremely talented,
53:13SPEAKERbut also like kind of weird and off kilter in a way that is fairly singular.
53:18SPEAKERSo I think I've talked about this before, but my, when we had a satellite dish before
53:24SPEAKERthey could scramble the video, they would just not brought you,
53:26SPEAKERlike you had to pay to get audio, but the picture would come through.
53:30SPEAKERSo I watched a lot of HBO and stars and stuff in the mid eighties with no audio.
53:36SPEAKERSo like I saw Rambo 3 probably 20 times, but no audio.
53:40SPEAKERSo I had to figure out what was going on just by context because there were no subtitles.
53:44SPEAKERAnd Sex, Lies and Videotape is one of the movies that I watched with no audio.
53:49SPEAKERAnd I was like, this is going to be a 12 year old being is like, hell yeah, let's go.
53:53SPEAKERI love Sex and I love Videotape. Let's, Lies are fine, whatever.
53:57SPEAKERI just want to see some naked people. And this is not what I was expecting.
54:03SPEAKERHe's still don't really know what that movie's about.
54:04SPEAKERHe's in that, I assume.
54:06SPEAKERYeah. He's the lead. It's a Soderbergh. It's a taught Soderbergh thriller.
54:14SPEAKERI thought it's like, it's like, was that like the first,
54:16SPEAKERnow we're just turning into a movie podcast. Is that,
54:18SPEAKERI don't think that was the first big breakout movie for Soderbergh, if I'm not mistaken.
54:22SPEAKERI think so. Yeah. That was, that was, I think it was shot on video actually.
54:26SPEAKEROkay. I should catch up on some old, young James Spader, like outside of like Stargate.
54:31SPEAKERI have not really seen much of his early film work.
54:33SPEAKEROh, he's real creepy in that.
54:34SPEAKERYeah. Yeah. I believe it. I should, I think I saw Secretary actually.
54:39SPEAKERHe is way creepy. Well, okay. So I don't know that I've ever
54:41SPEAKERactually seen Sex, Lies and Videotape when the audio was on.
54:44SPEAKERHe was real creepy and Sex, Lies and Videotape is my recollection.
54:47SPEAKERCreepy and Secretary too, if I remember.
54:50SPEAKERYeah. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. Okay. NetTech5883 writes in,
54:54SPEAKERI suspect both of you guys have thoughts on this, care to comment.
54:58SPEAKERMicrosoft has removed the bypass NRO script from Windows 11 preview builds,
55:03SPEAKERwhich allowed users to bypass the requirements to use a Microsoft
55:07SPEAKERaccount when installing the operating system. I mean,
55:09SPEAKERYeah, it's, this is bad. To expand on that a little,
55:11SPEAKERthis is basically one of, this was the go-to trick for people installing
55:15SPEAKERWindows 11 and bypassing the part where they make you sign in with a Microsoft,
55:19SPEAKERan online Microsoft account to even proceed with the installation.
55:23SPEAKERWell, yeah. And the reason you do this is because there's downstream
55:26SPEAKERconsequences of signing on with that online Microsoft account.
55:29SPEAKERMainly that instead of your profile folders for things like your desktop and
55:33SPEAKERdocuments being in C users, your username documents and desktop and
55:37SPEAKERall the places you look for them, they're in some OneDrive sub folder
55:41SPEAKERthat has some links from the main place. And it makes, it makes shit weird.
55:46SPEAKERAnd the name, the name of the home folder is the first X number of characters of your email
55:50SPEAKERaddress on your Microsoft account and not, not just whatever like first name you want to supply.
55:54SPEAKERIt's like, that's, that's a nitpicky issue, but also there's the more there's the broader,
56:00SPEAKERI don't know, like software freedom perspective kind of issue of some people just don't want to
56:05SPEAKERuse a Microsoft account and yet kind of have to like, like Windows is modern.
56:11SPEAKERWindows is like barely functional without a sign in like an online sign in at this point.
56:15SPEAKERWell, I want yeah, I like, here's the thing. The, the, the similar thing breaks compatibility
56:23SPEAKERwith enough applications that I don't want. I don't want games and other documents that are
56:29SPEAKERpoorly supported, especially old stuff to try to be writing in a safe. I like, I don't want
56:35SPEAKERgame save files to be in my documents folder on OneDrive because they're going to take up
56:39SPEAKERa shitload of space and it's going to cost me money. But like, I like this, this is just to
56:43SPEAKERbe clear, this is one of those things that like, this is probably, it's probably good that they
56:47SPEAKERrequire Microsoft accounts for non power users, but they also need to give non power, power users
56:55SPEAKERa way to avoid this requirement. Cause like, I can, I can be trusted to back up my computer.
57:00SPEAKERThe reason you do this is because they force people to run backups on OneDrive and it gives
57:04SPEAKERthem a way to recover passwords on Windows logins, especially in a post BitLocker world.
57:09SPEAKERTo be clear, to be clear, the the OneDrive home folder sync, you can turn off very quickly. It
57:14SPEAKERtakes like 10 seconds. Yeah. But then the windows profile is jacked up forever. Yes. But then it's,
57:19SPEAKERthen your profile is still locked to a bad place. You don't want it. Although I think even if,
57:26SPEAKEReven if you did the bypass, created a local account and then signed in afterwards,
57:30SPEAKERI think it would still turn on OneDrive sync for your home folders, even after the fact that I'm
57:35SPEAKERnot mistaken. You can turn that off once it's on. At any rate, you can turn that back off quite
57:38SPEAKEReasily, but it's, but that does not, that does not allay the broader issue here of this whole mess,
57:45SPEAKERbut look, windows is a service now, or it's a gateway to other Microsoft services. Like
57:49SPEAKERthat's how they're monetizing windows now. So this is like, this is just what windows is now.
57:55SPEAKERSo I'm not sure if, well, there's already a new bypass for the thing. I think it's,
58:01SPEAKERI think it's even harder now to do, but there is another way to get around it still. But how long
58:05SPEAKERwill that be the case? I don't know. Like, I mean, the bigger point though is like, this is clearly
58:08SPEAKERthe direction windows is going. And at some point, at some point you have to question like, how much
58:13SPEAKERlonger can you work around the undesirable aspects of what windows is now versus like, maybe it's
58:19SPEAKERtime to just switch something else. And the annoying thing, like for me, I do a bunch of
58:24SPEAKERbenchmarking and I have like, it means my account touches a lot of machines every single week.
58:30SPEAKERAnd there's a limit of 10 devices you can have connected to your Microsoft account, which includes
58:35SPEAKERXboxes for some inexplicable reason before you can't download stuff from the windows store
58:40SPEAKERanymore. So I'm constantly going into the window and I realize this is like a specific to me
58:45SPEAKERproblem, but it sucks because there's a bazillion of these edge cases where I don't want to have
58:51SPEAKERall of my machines logged into the, the, the, the Microsoft account. Cause it's a huge pain
58:58SPEAKERin the ass for me to keep disconnecting them and reconnecting them and disconnecting and
59:01SPEAKERreconnecting them. Yeah. Yeah. I, this, this is going back years, like 2018 or something,
59:07SPEAKERbut I, at one point, the, a giant bomb, the office gaming PC in the studio, I signed into windows
59:12SPEAKERwith my Microsoft account on that windows. That was a huge mistake. Like things were never the
59:18SPEAKERsame on my home PC again, after that it was, it was trying to sink your shit over. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
59:23SPEAKERIt was like trying to sync settings back and forth, even after I did everything I could to
59:27SPEAKERsign out of that office computer, it still was weird with settings, trying to get synced back
59:32SPEAKERand forth. And so this is one of the fundamental problems, right? Like there's no, like I want a
59:38SPEAKERway to be able to declare service bankruptcy. Like I want to like my, my daughter used my Spotify
59:44SPEAKERaccount for years by accident. Cause I signed into her iPad one time and I couldn't figure out why I
59:50SPEAKERkept getting the same 30 songs over and over again, added to my recommendations. And there's no way
59:55SPEAKERfor, there was no way for me to go in and say, Hey, I just want to start fresh from this account
59:59SPEAKERon Spotify. I like, like, like I want to, why can't you just reset your Microsoft account to zero?
1:00:06SPEAKERWhy indeed? Yeah. This, this, I mean, this, I've said it before, this, this is why I like the,
1:00:11SPEAKERthe Linux or Unix, or I guess POSIX maybe like style of just portable home folder with dot files
1:00:17SPEAKERin it. Yeah. It seems nice. Like you can, you can, you can literally move the same home folder
1:00:21SPEAKERaround between different Linux distros or free BSD or like any of like, you know, whatever you run,
1:00:26SPEAKERwe'll just read those same dot files. Like it's, it's the like portable and modular and easily
1:00:32SPEAKERnuked, I think are, are, are the philosophical, I don't know, priorities there. It's it's,
1:00:39SPEAKERit's nice using, I set up Linux on a machine the other day and it was really nice having an
1:00:43SPEAKERinstall process that didn't end with increasingly desperate pleas for me to sign up for some
1:00:47SPEAKERservice. Yep. Maybe it's the year. I've said it for a long time. It was one of my PC world
1:00:55SPEAKERpredictions last year. Yep. Okay. Let's do a couple more quick ones here. Desmo double O one.
1:01:03SPEAKERI was recently laid off after working 27 years for an aerospace company condolences and my job
1:01:09SPEAKERhunting skills are a bit rusty. I hear you need to format your resume now in such a way that can
1:01:13SPEAKERbe understood by the bots and hopefully passed on to a real person. Do you have any tips to be
1:01:18SPEAKERclear? I can supply the content just asking for help with layout formatting to avoid, et cetera.
1:01:23SPEAKERSo I am clearly bad at this cause I've been doing it for more than a year.
1:01:28SPEAKEROkay. But I've been using this thing called job scan. It's job scan.co to do the formatting
1:01:38SPEAKERand it seems pretty good. It makes an easy way. It gives me an easy way to like track jobs that
1:01:45SPEAKERI've applied to. It helps you, you feed the description for the job into that. And it helps
1:01:50SPEAKERyou change the stupid. We have to do this just to be clear. It helps you change the language on the,
1:01:58SPEAKERon the, your resume to more closely match the job description so that you get a you have a better
1:02:07SPEAKERchance of passing the automated screening. Cause that's the fundamental problem is that everybody
1:02:12SPEAKERwell, a somebody posts a job to LinkedIn or monster or wherever. And immediately there are 150
1:02:18SPEAKERapplications set to that job. And from talking to people who are recruiters and hiring managers,
1:02:24SPEAKER99% of those applications will be AI spam in the same way that a lot of the job postings are AI
1:02:29SPEAKERspam. So A you gotta be real fast and B using a tool to, to make sure you, you kind of get through
1:02:41SPEAKERthe noise helps. That makes sense. Yeah. It's not a great system. The best way is to find somebody,
1:02:47SPEAKERyou know, at that place and ask them to do a referral. And even that's not a guarantee
1:02:50SPEAKERthese days. Yeah. That's, I mean the, you know, who, you know, more important than what, you know,
1:02:55SPEAKERthing probably still holds true, but that's not easy these days, particularly if you're working
1:03:00SPEAKERremote. I can't even imagine how hard it is to network when you aren't even physically in the
1:03:05SPEAKERsame place as a lot of the people that you prospectively want to work with. I mean, look,
1:03:10SPEAKERthat's possible, but that's what social media is for these days, I guess. Yeah, I think so.
1:03:17SPEAKERI think so. What is this world that we have made for ourselves? Yeah, I don't, I don't love it.
1:03:24SPEAKERIt seems bad in a lot of ways. Yeah. All right. This might be the final question.
1:03:30SPEAKERIt's the final question. From dairy guy. It's March in Ontario, and that means this is a bit
1:03:37SPEAKERslightly older. It's March in Ontario, and that means tapping season. Have either of you had any
1:03:42SPEAKERexperience with making maple syrup? There's nothing quite like the smell of burning wood and the sweet
1:03:46SPEAKERsticky aroma of boiling sap. God, I bet that is, I bet that is a sensory experience like, like no
1:03:53SPEAKERother. So I have an uncle who has maple trees and he did, he does, he built a sap shack and does it
1:04:00SPEAKERevery year in Virginia. Sap shack. Sap shack. Sap shack. Sap shack. The sap shack, the job thunk.
1:04:12SPEAKERShatner's sap shack. Nobody wants to be in Shatner's sap shack. It was incredible. It was
1:04:21SPEAKERan incredible amount of work too, just to be clear. Really? Well, yeah. Cause you,
1:04:25SPEAKERyou boil down, it's a gallon makes like four ounces of syrup or something. Oh, wow. Oh,
1:04:31SPEAKERI had no idea it was that, that kind of ratio. That's crazy. Yeah. It's an incredible amount of,
1:04:38SPEAKERit's an incredible amount of, of, of sap required to make the tiniest amount of syrup. Yeah. It
1:04:43SPEAKERseems like you just need a ton of, I don't know how much sap you're getting out of each tree,
1:04:47SPEAKERbut it seems like you would need a bajillion trees to get any quantity. Well, so I want to say he had
1:04:52SPEAKER40 or 50 trees and you'd go around and collect the bucket every couple of days. And when you got a
1:05:00SPEAKERgallon of sap, then you'd start boiling basically. Okay. But yeah, like it's incredible. It's really
1:05:07SPEAKERfun. And if you, it's on the East coast, at least there were places kind of all over the place. Like
1:05:12SPEAKERthere was a place in, in North Carolina that we went up near your, your part of the country. When
1:05:18SPEAKERI was a kid, that was a, Hey, let your kids experience the magic of sap shacking. No,
1:05:25SPEAKERthat's cool. And I'm going to go and tell you, I was not super impressed with it as a, as a young,
1:05:30SPEAKERas a young child. Yeah. I mean, you're at that age, you'd rather sit in the car and play your
1:05:35SPEAKERgame boy or something. Right. But I mean, it's kind of the kind of thing you can appreciate
1:05:40SPEAKERwhen you get older though. Yeah, exactly. We have just in the last few months, we have started using
1:05:46SPEAKERmaple syrup around here as a sweetener. We traditionally been like a honey guy. Oh yeah.
1:05:51SPEAKERFirst of all, first of all, I like to lie to myself and, and tell myself that using natural
1:05:57SPEAKERsweeteners like honey and maple syrup is somehow healthier. I mean, I guess it is technically
1:06:01SPEAKERbetter than corn syrup. Yeah, I think so, right? You still probably need to moderate your sugar
1:06:08SPEAKERintake regardless of where it's coming from. You tell me. Also true, but I like a, I like a,
1:06:15SPEAKERI like a maple syrup. Yeah. I don't, I don't use a lot of artificial sweetener. I don't use a lot
1:06:19SPEAKERof sweetener these days, except for on pancakes. Like mostly so like we buy a lot of nonfat Greek
1:06:26SPEAKERyogurt, like plain Greek yogurt. Yeah. I've also tried to get away from artificial sweeteners to
1:06:31SPEAKERbe clear because like, yeah, yeah. Just trying, I don't know. I don't really like plain Greek yogurt.
1:06:37SPEAKERI don't even do anything to it. Plain plain? Plain. Like basically tastes like sour cream,
1:06:43SPEAKERlike full on, just tangy. It has its place if you're like making something with it,
1:06:49SPEAKERbut I would not just eat it plain out of a bowl like that. You and I are different people.
1:06:53SPEAKERSo I will have to like, I'll put a little bit of granola in there, maybe some like freeze dried
1:06:57SPEAKERfruit, maybe some dates or something. Okay. They're a little sweet. I mean, but we often know often
1:07:02SPEAKERit's just like granola, unsweetened granola. I'll eat that like in some sort of aesthetic.
1:07:09SPEAKERTo be clear, I'm putting like a teaspoon, maybe a tablespoon of maple syrup into like a giant bowl
1:07:16SPEAKERof yogurt. It's not a lot, but anyway, again, I like to, I like to tell myself I'm being healthier
1:07:23SPEAKERby using maple syrup. Maple syrup's pretty good. I'm going to say, like the trees do good work.
1:07:29SPEAKERWell, I generally still like honey on like bread and butter, but probably sugar.
1:07:37SPEAKERLook, I don't, I don't live in the land of bunny, honey and butter. I, what do I, what do I do?
1:07:42SPEAKERI don't, yeah, I don't really use sugar. I don't put sugar in coffee or anything anymore.
1:07:46SPEAKERYeah. I mean, I drink black coffee to be clear.
1:07:48SPEAKERI eat an ice cream occasionally. I like an ice cream. Mr. Softy comes to town. I'll go
1:07:53SPEAKERvisit the truck. They have caramel this season. So I've been having caramel nuts Sundays. Like,
1:07:58SPEAKERlike it's McDonald's in 1985 again. Go and tell you those are pretty good.
1:08:02SPEAKERWe've had the ice cream truck has been around a lot lately. Also it's loud enough that I can hear
1:08:06SPEAKERit in here. Like I'm facing the back of the building here. I can still hear it with the
1:08:10SPEAKERwindows closed outside. That's amazing.
1:08:13SPEAKERIt's a loud ice cream truck. Are there like smart ice cream trucks at this point? There
1:08:19SPEAKERhave to be like, there have to be like ice cream truck apps or something now.
1:08:22SPEAKERMr. Softy has an app. He can get a notification when he's in your neighborhood.
1:08:26SPEAKERThat's of course, you know, everybody's got their thing. All right. I'm going to declare
1:08:35SPEAKERan end to the questions here. I think even though we've got more, we could talk about.
1:08:38SPEAKEROkay. I guess that'll do it for us this week. If you have a question for the show,
1:08:42SPEAKERyou can send it to tech bod at content on town, or if you're in the discord, you can post it in
1:08:47SPEAKERthe question seeking answers channel. If you're not in the discord, what are you doing? Get in
1:08:50SPEAKERthere. Five bucks a month. You get access to the fabulous tech pod discord. Is this our new
1:08:56SPEAKERrecruiting strategy? We're going to start shaming people who aren't giving us money.
1:08:59SPEAKERNo, no. I mean, look, I get it. Times are hard, right? It's tough out there. I get it.
1:09:03SPEAKERYes. No, I absolutely also get it.
1:09:06SPEAKERBut, but yeah, so if you want, if you want to get access to that community I find it to be
1:09:13SPEAKERincredibly positive for me personally. Not just because everybody's that's in there is paying me,
1:09:19SPEAKERbut because it's a, it's like a giant group of people who are into many of the same things that
1:09:24SPEAKERI'm into and I can chat with and we can talk about topics of interest. I've been spending a lot of
1:09:29SPEAKERtime in the, in the, let's see, what is it called? Star Wars, hashtag less laser swords in star wars
1:09:43SPEAKERthread or forum in the movie and TV forum, because look, we're talking about Andor.
1:09:49SPEAKEROkay. Don't say anything.
1:09:50SPEAKERI'm not going to say a word.
1:09:51SPEAKERStarted it yet.
1:09:52SPEAKERPeople are doing, you should start it cause it's real good. People are doing,
1:09:56SPEAKERpeople spontaneously developed a spoiler tagging method where they put which episode the spoiler is
1:10:03SPEAKERfor. So that if you're only watching one episode at a time, when they dump three on a day,
1:10:08SPEAKERthen you know which spoilers are safe and which ones aren't.
1:10:11SPEAKERRight. A well-defined spoiler taxonomy. I would expect no less of the tech pod discord.
1:10:16SPEAKERYeah. It's, it's a very good place.
1:10:18SPEAKERI, I made the mistake of I intended to do a rewatch of season one. I almost never rewatch
1:10:23SPEAKERanything, but that show was so good. I was like, I need to rewatch season one leading into two.
1:10:27SPEAKERSo I rewatched season one. I rewatched rogue one.
1:10:32SPEAKEROkay.
1:10:32SPEAKERI rewatched the end of rebels just cause like it overlaps some with this, I think.
1:10:37SPEAKERAll right. I, I made the mistake of starting that rewatch the night before the new season started.
1:10:43SPEAKERThat's a lot of, that's a lot of Andor.
1:10:45SPEAKERSo like now I'm kind of dying because everybody is watching the new season and I'm still,
1:10:49SPEAKERbut also, you know what, that first season is extremely good. I'm like actually just
1:10:52SPEAKERexcited to go watch season one right now. I'm going to tell you when I got to the eye
1:10:56SPEAKERof Aldani episode, I stood up and I cheered, I cried the whole thing.
1:11:01SPEAKERYeah. I didn't, I watched that on my old TV the first time. So I'm excited to see the full HDR
1:11:06SPEAKERexperience of the eye of Aldani. Very excited about that.
1:11:11SPEAKERThe final episodes of those arcs in the first season of that show, the eye of Aldani won the
1:11:16SPEAKERno way out. And, and the, the bricks road, I think is the last, last one.
1:11:21SPEAKERAnd, and, and, and we've watched season or episode three last night. The end, the end of the first
1:11:27SPEAKERarc, you know, the first, the set up arc on Ferrix, the escape from Ferrix.
1:11:31SPEAKERWoody meets the Luthan and yeah.
1:11:32SPEAKERLike even, even that like, dude, it's the show so good.
1:11:35SPEAKERYeah.
1:11:37SPEAKERSo this new, the new season, well, anyway, the conversation we've had in the discord
1:11:41SPEAKERis that the new season feels like they're just dropping a movie every week, which is
1:11:45SPEAKERlike fucking hell.
1:11:46SPEAKERI gotta, I gotta give it up. Like, okay, you look, you absolutely don't gotta hand it to Disney.
1:11:51SPEAKERNo.
1:11:51SPEAKERThe company, but whoever over there made the decision this time to make this just a three
1:11:56SPEAKERweek drop, basically. Cause it's for people who don't know it's every three episodes is its own
1:12:00SPEAKERkind of self-contained story because it's like one year.
1:12:03SPEAKERWhich is like, I thought there's 12 episodes.
1:12:05SPEAKERThere are, there are, but what I mean is the space, the space between the first drop and
1:12:10SPEAKERthe last drop is only three weeks.
1:12:12SPEAKERYeah. So I feel bad for the AMCA folks. It's a lot of podcasts.
1:12:16SPEAKERYes. Like maybe you don't have to wait three months for the season to finish like the first
1:12:19SPEAKERtime, but like each three episodes, they're, they're releasing three episodes a week, but
1:12:23SPEAKEReach one, like you said, is kind of its own self-contained arc. So anyway, cause that's
1:12:27SPEAKERnot how they did season one, but whoever, whoever at Disney decided to just put out three
1:12:32SPEAKERepisodes a week for the whole time instead.
1:12:35SPEAKERIt's a cool way to do it.
1:12:36SPEAKERAnd I am extremely excited that they made that decision.
1:12:39SPEAKERAnyway.
1:12:39SPEAKERAnyway. Yeah.
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