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197: The Pigs Go Ham

2023-08-27 · 1:25:03

00:00SPEAKERPast me really screwed over current me last year.

00:03SPEAKER- God, past you was always doing that.

00:05SPEAKERWhat's up with that guy?

00:06SPEAKER- What a jerk.

00:07SPEAKERLast year at the end of the year,

00:09SPEAKERI have a window fan that I put in my office window

00:11SPEAKERthat has like two fans.

00:13SPEAKERIt seals up the whole window

00:14SPEAKERand you can set it either to suck or to blow.

00:16SPEAKERSo we use it to like suck the hot air out of the house

00:19SPEAKERwhen it's really hot at the end of the day

00:20SPEAKERand there's nice cool air outside.

00:22SPEAKER- An exhaust fan, yes.

00:23SPEAKER- Yes, an exhaust fan.

00:24SPEAKERBut the fan motor had got, it was like 10 years old.

00:29SPEAKERI'd take it apart and clean it every year

00:31SPEAKERand get all the dust and grime off of it

00:32SPEAKER'cause fans in the Bay Area get kind of icky.

00:36SPEAKERBut the motor was wobbly and it was squeaking.

00:39SPEAKERIt was making noise, which I, you know, I can't.

00:43SPEAKERNo noise, no noise.

00:44SPEAKER- Zero tolerance for wobbly motors.

00:46SPEAKER- I don't truck a wobbly motor.

00:49SPEAKERSo past me was like, the junk guys are coming to haul.

00:52SPEAKERI cleaned out the garage, I put in the junk pile.

00:55SPEAKERAnd then yesterday and the day before,

00:57SPEAKERit's like 80 degrees here in beautiful San Francisco.

01:01SPEAKER- I heard, I heard I've been missing.

01:02SPEAKERI mean, we've got plenty of heat here, don't get me wrong.

01:04SPEAKERBut I heard I have been missing some warm times.

01:07SPEAKER- Yeah, it's been, at one point,

01:09SPEAKERlast night at like seven o'clock,

01:10SPEAKERI looked around in my office.

01:11SPEAKERI was like, oh, it's 85 degrees in here.

01:13SPEAKERThat's not what you want.

01:13SPEAKER- Nice.

01:14SPEAKER- I was like, I'll go to the garage,

01:15SPEAKERget the fan out and plug it in.

01:17SPEAKERThis is, it's nice and cool outside.

01:18SPEAKERThis is gonna be great.

01:19SPEAKERI went to the garage, I looked where the fan goes.

01:21SPEAKERI was like, wait, there's no fan.

01:22SPEAKEROh, damn it.

01:24SPEAKER- You've rendered yourself fanless.

01:25SPEAKER- I fan myself.

01:27SPEAKERSo I went to Amazon, as one does,

01:29SPEAKERand I was like, I'm gonna,

01:31SPEAKERlook, I looked at some fan reviews.

01:33SPEAKERI'd been eyeing this Voronado window transom fan

01:38SPEAKERthat Wirecutter likes.

01:40SPEAKERAnd it's like four inches tall.

01:42SPEAKERYou put it in the window.

01:44SPEAKERIt can be set to either suck or blow.

01:46SPEAKERAnd it's a circulator, it's not a fan.

01:48SPEAKERIt moves the air through the whole room

01:50SPEAKERthrough some sort of magic designed in Aurora, Illinois

01:53SPEAKERor something, I don't know.

01:54SPEAKERAnyway, I bought into it.

01:57SPEAKERI was like, I'm gonna try this.

01:58SPEAKERAnd Amazon was like,

01:59SPEAKERyeah, we can have it there in September.

02:00SPEAKERI was like, well, it's August now

02:03SPEAKERand it's gonna be hot tomorrow.

02:04SPEAKERSo I went to Home Depot.

02:05SPEAKER- Oh, hey, it'll still be hot in September, but go on.

02:08SPEAKER- No, optimism.

02:10SPEAKERI went to Home Depot 'cause Home Depot was like,

02:12SPEAKERwe have 23 of them in stock.

02:14SPEAKER- Okay.

02:15SPEAKER- So I rolled up on the Home Depot

02:16SPEAKERand I went to the place, like I opened up the,

02:18SPEAKERI got there and was like, hey,

02:18SPEAKERdo you wanna use the in-store experience?

02:20SPEAKERI was like, this is really cool.

02:21SPEAKERIt's gonna give me like a map and show me where to go

02:23SPEAKERand this enormous warehouse

02:24SPEAKERso I can find exactly the thing that I want.

02:27SPEAKERAnd I hit the button and it was like,

02:28SPEAKERyeah, see an associate.

02:30SPEAKERSo I, and it had a picture of where it was on the map.

02:32SPEAKERSo I went to where it said it was on the map

02:34SPEAKERand I looked around, I was like, there aren't any fans here.

02:36SPEAKERThis isn't even a fan.

02:38SPEAKERThis is like, there's a bunch of like blinds

02:41SPEAKERthat you can cut to your own length here

02:43SPEAKERand some screen doors.

02:44SPEAKERThis isn't, this clearly is not the,

02:46SPEAKERmaybe it's a ventilation section,

02:48SPEAKERbut it's not where the fans go.

02:50SPEAKERSo then I like looked around for an associate

02:52SPEAKERand the associates in,

02:54SPEAKER'cause it's also in the refrigerator section

02:55SPEAKERare always insanely busy there

02:57SPEAKER'cause people like to talk to somebody

02:59SPEAKERwhen they buy a fridge.

03:00SPEAKERAnd after waiting about 20 minutes,

03:02SPEAKERI talked to the guy and I was like,

03:04SPEAKERhey, do you know where these fans are?

03:05SPEAKERHe's like, oh, what does the app say?

03:07SPEAKERAnd I said, it says see associate.

03:09SPEAKERHe said, well, does it say where it is in the store?

03:13SPEAKERAnd I was like, yeah, it says it's in aisle 41,

03:15SPEAKERbut I looked there and there's nothing in aisle 41.

03:16SPEAKERHe's like, yeah, if it's not in aisle 41,

03:18SPEAKERI have no idea where it is.

03:19SPEAKERIt's basically gone.

03:20SPEAKER- Cool.

03:21SPEAKERSo humans and software are equally capable

03:24SPEAKERof passing the buck to each other is what you're saying.

03:27SPEAKER- Here's the thing.

03:29SPEAKERI'm not upset with the guy 'cause he was apologetic.

03:31SPEAKERHe was like, I'm sorry, this sucks.

03:32SPEAKERBut like your,

03:33SPEAKERthe app ties into the same inventory system we have.

03:36SPEAKER- So it's probably all the data he has to work with.

03:39SPEAKER- Yeah, he's like, there are probably 23 of these

03:41SPEAKERin the store somewhere, but God only knows where

03:42SPEAKERand we'll find it the next time we do inventory, maybe.

03:45SPEAKER- Hey, don't you like to combine your retail experience

03:48SPEAKERwith a scavenger hunt?

03:49SPEAKER- Oh God, not like,

03:51SPEAKERHome Depot, having done a couple of big

03:53SPEAKERhome renovation projects that involved me going

03:55SPEAKERto Home Depot or Lowe's every day,

03:57SPEAKERif I never set foot in a Home Depot again, I'll be fine.

04:01SPEAKERSo then he's like, but look,

04:03SPEAKERthere's another Home Depot like a mile and a half away.

04:06SPEAKERYou want to see if they have it?

04:07SPEAKERAnd I was like, yeah, let's look.

04:08SPEAKERSo we looked on that.

04:09SPEAKERI looked on the app, he looked on his computer.

04:11SPEAKERThe app was finished first.

04:13SPEAKERAnd I was like, it doesn't tell me where it is

04:15SPEAKERin the store on the app.

04:15SPEAKERHe's like, yeah, the only way you could do that

04:16SPEAKERis if you're in the actual store.

04:18SPEAKERIt's like, okay, great.

04:21SPEAKERSo I piled in the car.

04:23SPEAKERI drove over to the other Home Depot.

04:25SPEAKERI got in, it pops up.

04:27SPEAKERIt's like, it's in aisle 41, bin seven.

04:30SPEAKERTold me exactly where it was.

04:31SPEAKERIt's a fantastic experience.

04:33SPEAKERSo Home Depot's bad in 500 is what I'm saying.

04:36SPEAKER(upbeat music)

04:51SPEAKER(upbeat music continues)

05:05SPEAKER- Welcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod.

05:07SPEAKERI'm Will.

05:08SPEAKER- I'm Brad.

05:09SPEAKER- Hello.

05:10SPEAKER- Are you cool?

05:10SPEAKERAre you enjoying your ventilation, your circulation rather?

05:13SPEAKER- So by the time I got home, I set the fan up

05:16SPEAKERand I was like, fuck it.

05:17SPEAKERI'm going to hook up the air conditioner anyway.

05:19SPEAKERCause it's too, it's too hot.

05:20SPEAKERIt was like the walls were warm.

05:23SPEAKER- So the walls were sweating.

05:24SPEAKER- Yeah, the walls, the walls were warm.

05:25SPEAKERSo I set that, I put the fan in the kitchen window,

05:27SPEAKERset it to exhaust, opened the windows in the bedroom

05:30SPEAKERand turned on the AC in the office

05:34SPEAKERand then turned the whole house fan on.

05:37SPEAKERAnd it got pretty cool.

05:38SPEAKERBy the time we went to bed, it was, it was okay.

05:40SPEAKERSo.

05:41SPEAKER- I just, I have one question for you.

05:43SPEAKER- Yes, hello.

05:43SPEAKER- And this, this is not a bone to pick.

05:45SPEAKERI'm just going to ask the question.

05:47SPEAKERVornado?

05:49SPEAKER- Vornado?

05:50SPEAKER- Vornado?

05:52SPEAKER- I assumed it was like a tornado.

05:54SPEAKER- You say Vornado, I say Vornado.

05:56SPEAKERWhat is a tornot?

05:57SPEAKERDo you mean a tornado?

05:58SPEAKER- No, a tornado is a type of car.

06:00SPEAKER- Isn't that, is that not a toronado?

06:02SPEAKER- Toronado, maybe.

06:04SPEAKER- Oh, I'm sorry.

06:05SPEAKERI brought this up.

06:06SPEAKER- Oh no, now it's happening again.

06:08SPEAKER- Your worst nightmare.

06:10SPEAKER- This is the, look, a lot of words you see.

06:13SPEAKERI've never heard anybody say vornado before.

06:15SPEAKER- That's not a word.

06:17SPEAKERThat's not a word.

06:18SPEAKER- Toronado?

06:19SPEAKERA toronado?

06:21SPEAKER- Toronado, I don't know.

06:22SPEAKERMy grandfather had a toronado when I was a kid.

06:25SPEAKERThey always said toronado.

06:26SPEAKER- Okay, I know what a tornado is.

06:28SPEAKERI can tell you that.

06:29SPEAKER- A toronado, it was a big car.

06:31SPEAKERIt was wide.

06:32SPEAKERYou could put four people across the backseat, no problem.

06:35SPEAKER- A tornado is also an air circulator.

06:37SPEAKER- That's true, that's true.

06:39SPEAKERI don't want one in my house though, if I can help.

06:41SPEAKER- Probably not.

06:42SPEAKERWhat about a minute?

06:43SPEAKERWhat if science could create a tiny miniature tornado

06:45SPEAKERthat went around your room?

06:47SPEAKERI mean, do you know about the whole house fan thing?

06:50SPEAKER- No.

06:51SPEAKER- So, for like 800 bucks a grand,

06:55SPEAKERyou cut a hole in your house in the roof

06:57SPEAKERand you put a really high CFM fan in it,

07:00SPEAKERlike a thousand cubic foot per minute or something,

07:03SPEAKERlike something that's basically like a tornado.

07:06SPEAKERAnd what you do is you crack your windows

07:09SPEAKERin each of the rooms, it's hot, and you flip that on.

07:12SPEAKERThe idea is it sucks all of the air out of your house

07:14SPEAKERin like five minutes.

07:15SPEAKER- Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, it's not quite that crazy,

07:17SPEAKERbut my parents have an exhaust fan in the roof here

07:20SPEAKERor in the ceiling here.

07:21SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

07:22SPEAKER- Kind of like that.

07:23SPEAKER- And it's great for places where like where we live,

07:26SPEAKERwhere it gets very warm one or two weeks a year,

07:31SPEAKERbut the rest of the time it's very temperate outside.

07:33SPEAKERAnd even at nighttime, it's usually pretty okay.

07:35SPEAKER- Yeah, it's also great for areas like here,

07:38SPEAKERwhich get much warmer still and much more humid.

07:41SPEAKERBut let's say the head of the house has opinions

07:44SPEAKERabout how much the air conditioning should run.

07:47SPEAKER- Are you wearing tank tops and stuff down there?

07:48SPEAKERIs it that kind of sitch?

07:50SPEAKER- Those opinions are minimal, I'd say.

07:52SPEAKER- Yeah, we had a similar situation in my parents' house,

07:56SPEAKERbut unfortunately they put us in the bedroom

07:58SPEAKERwith the thermostat upstairs.

07:59SPEAKER- Oh good.

08:00SPEAKER- So we just made some adjustments.

08:03SPEAKER'Cause like Gina and I, like I have a hard time sleeping

08:06SPEAKERif it's not relatively cool after living on the coast

08:09SPEAKERfor 20 years, it turns out.

08:11SPEAKER- Sleeping cold.

08:12SPEAKER- I like to sleep cold.

08:13SPEAKERI like it.

08:14SPEAKER- We've established it's the best.

08:15SPEAKER- I like a great big down comforter in a really cold room.

08:18SPEAKER- Okay, okay, we're definitely not doing this again.

08:20SPEAKER- Fluffy comforter. - But you know what we are

08:21SPEAKERgoing to do again?

08:23SPEAKER- We're gonna turn Q's into A's, Brad?

08:25SPEAKER- That's right.

08:25SPEAKER- It is time. - It's time.

08:27SPEAKERIt is the most magical time of the month.

08:29SPEAKER- It's the last week of the month.

08:31SPEAKERI can't believe August has left us already.

08:32SPEAKERThis is amazing.

08:34SPEAKER- Yes, it's wild.

08:35SPEAKERTime, how does it work?

08:37SPEAKER- Well, it goes faster the older you get.

08:39SPEAKER- Mm-hmm, no, that's time dilation.

08:42SPEAKER- Yeah.

08:44SPEAKER- All right, so shall we dive right into it?

08:45SPEAKER- Well, I mean, I think we have to tell people

08:46SPEAKERhow to send these in.

08:47SPEAKERIf you are a listener on your radio or your Spotify's,

08:52SPEAKERwhatever, wherever you happen to be,

08:53SPEAKERyou can go to techpod@content.town.

08:56SPEAKERThat is techpod@content.town.

08:58SPEAKERSend us an electronic mail, a missive over the wires.

09:02SPEAKERAnd we may or may not turn that into an A.

09:06SPEAKERWe don't get as many of those as we get

09:08SPEAKERinto the Discord channel, Q's Seeking A's,

09:11SPEAKERwhere anyone can jump in and submit a question,

09:13SPEAKERthey disappear into the void momentarily,

09:14SPEAKERand we go to pull down a list

09:17SPEAKERof people's seemingly offhand thoughts,

09:20SPEAKERtheir considerations in the wee hours of the morning,

09:25SPEAKERor at 2.11 in the afternoon.

09:27SPEAKERAnd I wonder, I was looking at the time stamps

09:31SPEAKERon these this month, Brad,

09:33SPEAKERand I wondered if there was any correlation

09:35SPEAKERbetween the seriousness of the question

09:37SPEAKERand the time of day that it was posted,

09:39SPEAKERand it seems like there is not that I can tell, so.

09:42SPEAKER- That sounds like that's prime graph material.

09:44SPEAKER- Yeah, I should make a graph.

09:46SPEAKER- Graphs are cool.

09:48SPEAKER- What's our first Q, Brad?

09:49SPEAKER- You know what else is cool is all of these questions,

09:51SPEAKER'cause we got a lot of good ones.

09:53SPEAKER- Yeah, it was a good crop.

09:55SPEAKERNice work, everyone.

09:56SPEAKER- Yes, I'm gonna dive into the Discord Q's first.

09:58SPEAKERWe'll do emails at the end this month.

10:02SPEAKERMillhouse Phoenix writes in,

10:04SPEAKER"What do you do with all the tools

10:05SPEAKER"that come with various pieces of technology,

10:07SPEAKER"furniture, et cetera, that you purchase?

10:09SPEAKER"Do you keep them with the product,

10:10SPEAKER"store them all in one place, or ditch them?"

10:12SPEAKER- Trash or recycle?

10:14SPEAKER- Ah, no, never.

10:16SPEAKER- I have a really nice set of Allen wrenches

10:17SPEAKERand Star wrenches.

10:18SPEAKERI don't need to keep any of that stuff.

10:19SPEAKER- Yeah, that's fair.

10:21SPEAKERI just, I always worry there's gonna be some part in there

10:23SPEAKERthat's bespoke that I might need someday, but I never do.

10:25SPEAKER- It's just garbage. - Never do.

10:26SPEAKER- Throw it out.

10:28SPEAKER- I've got, do you have a junk drawer?

10:30SPEAKEREverybody's got a junk drawer.

10:31SPEAKER- Yeah, it has a bunch of rechargeable batteries in it,

10:33SPEAKERmostly.

10:33SPEAKER- Okay.

10:35SPEAKERI do baggy stuff.

10:36SPEAKERI do like to just get like a Ziploc

10:39SPEAKERand bag up stuff that came with the thing

10:41SPEAKERthat I didn't use, but surely will someday.

10:43SPEAKER- I'm shaking my head.

10:45SPEAKERThe secret of the junk drawer is to get those little trays.

10:48SPEAKERSo you get a, you go to IP or something,

10:50SPEAKERand the hardware stores have them.

10:52SPEAKERYou get trays you can put in a grid,

10:53SPEAKERand then they all go in in the right way.

10:56SPEAKERBut I only get trays for about half the drawer,

10:58SPEAKERand then the rest is just a mash.

11:00SPEAKERI have probably 25 different kinds of regular,

11:07SPEAKERof different sized button cell batteries,

11:10SPEAKER'cause all the internet of shit stuff in the house,

11:13SPEAKERlike the window sensors and the door sensors

11:15SPEAKERand all that stuff uses weird cell batteries.

11:18SPEAKERSo I have stacks and stacks and stacks of them.

11:21SPEAKER- Do you mean like watch batteries?

11:23SPEAKER- 2492s, yeah, watch batteries.

11:25SPEAKER- CR2032, stuff like that.

11:27SPEAKER- Yeah, there's the thick ones, there's thin ones,

11:29SPEAKERthere's small fat ones, there's small skinny ones.

11:32SPEAKERThere's a bunch of them.

11:34SPEAKER- I defeated myself recently when I had to go,

11:37SPEAKERI went and bought a whole six pack of those things,

11:40SPEAKER'cause I thought we needed some,

11:41SPEAKERand then immediately found another package

11:42SPEAKERof unopened ones in the drawers, as soon as I got them out.

11:45SPEAKER- I've literally had that happen where I got the package,

11:47SPEAKERI put the battery in, I went to put the package

11:49SPEAKERwhere it goes, and I was like,

11:50SPEAKERwell, here's another pack of them.

11:52SPEAKER- Now we have eight more, that digital kitchen scale

11:55SPEAKERwe've got is going to work for the next 40 years.

11:58SPEAKER- I hear, my kitchen scale is rechargeable.

12:01SPEAKERIt's got a USB port.

12:03SPEAKER- Maybe it's time to upgrade.

12:04SPEAKER- Actually, I mean, it's kind of annoying,

12:06SPEAKER'cause I mean, since there's usually a kitchen scale,

12:08SPEAKERhang on, I have a USB dongle on my kitchen counter,

12:12SPEAKERwhich sucks, anyway.

12:13SPEAKER- Yes.

12:15SPEAKEROkay, how about,

12:18SPEAKERokay, you suggested I read this one, I hadn't planned to,

12:22SPEAKERbut then you bolded it, which I think we've been over this.

12:27SPEAKEROur Google Docs language is that you bold things

12:29SPEAKERyou want to read.

12:30SPEAKER- Yeah, and you highlight things you want to read.

12:32SPEAKERI highlight in yellow.

12:34SPEAKER- I highlighted that 'cause I just bolded it just now,

12:36SPEAKER'cause I meant to bold it at the beginning and I forgot.

12:38SPEAKERThat's why it was highlighted just now,

12:39SPEAKERbut you can read it, it's fine.

12:42SPEAKER- You said you wanted to know a question from Warbird.

12:44SPEAKERHas Brad gotten used to the notch on his MacBook yet,

12:46SPEAKERor is he still using that tool to black out the toolbar

12:48SPEAKERat the top like a coward?

12:49SPEAKER- I'm going to put my money on coward.

12:52SPEAKER- Top notch all the way, man.

12:53SPEAKER- Really?

12:54SPEAKER- I don't even know what's there.

12:55SPEAKERWhat is it hurting?

12:58SPEAKERHow is my life significantly materially altered

13:01SPEAKERby continuing to use that tool?

13:03SPEAKER- Oh, oh, okay, yes.

13:04SPEAKERYou're getting rid.

13:05SPEAKERI thought when you said top notch all the way

13:07SPEAKERthat you had embraced the notch and you had-

13:09SPEAKER- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry.

13:10SPEAKERTop notch is the name of the app.

13:12SPEAKERAll it does, like quite literally, I looked,

13:14SPEAKERall it is doing is generating,

13:15SPEAKERit's taking your desktop wallpaper

13:17SPEAKERand generating a new image with a black strip at the top.

13:21SPEAKER- But isn't there stuff up there?

13:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

13:25SPEAKER- Oh, so the stuff is still up there.

13:26SPEAKER- Yeah, that's not affected.

13:28SPEAKERI mean, Mac OS adjusts.

13:30SPEAKERLike, you know, the traditional,

13:31SPEAKERlike a light colored menu bar in Mac OS,

13:33SPEAKERit would make all the text and icons black, like tray icons.

13:36SPEAKER- Oh, I thought you were literally carving off

13:38SPEAKERlike the top 20 pixels of your screen and not using them.

13:40SPEAKER- Oh, oh, all it does is make the part,

13:43SPEAKER'cause they default to transparent everything now.

13:45SPEAKERI don't know if you have used a Mac.

13:46SPEAKER- I haven't used a Mac in a long time.

13:48SPEAKER- In a while.

13:49SPEAKERYeah, out of the box, they have got transparency turned on

13:51SPEAKERfor everything in the UI, which is also not great.

13:54SPEAKER- I love that.

13:55SPEAKER- Of course you can disable that,

13:56SPEAKERbut all it's doing is just saying,

13:58SPEAKER"Hey, this exact area where the menu bar is is now black."

14:01SPEAKERAnd so then it turns all the menu text

14:03SPEAKERand tray icons and clock and everything white,

14:05SPEAKERand you can't even see the notch anymore.

14:07SPEAKER- I miss the transparency in Windows.

14:10SPEAKER- Wait, does 11 not have it?

14:12SPEAKER- 11 doesn't do transparency by default.

14:14SPEAKERI think you can turn it on, but it's by default,

14:15SPEAKERit's off probably.

14:16SPEAKER- What, God, we should, well, I don't know about should.

14:21SPEAKERI started to say we should do a thing,

14:22SPEAKERbut maybe I'm the only one who would ever care about this.

14:24SPEAKERI was gonna say we should chronicle all the dumb names

14:27SPEAKERfor Windows Chrome, like Windows UI.

14:29SPEAKER- Arrow.

14:30SPEAKER- Flourishes, Arrow is the one I always think of.

14:32SPEAKER- Arrow is the classic one.

14:33SPEAKER- Is Arrow Vista?

14:35SPEAKER- Arrow is Vista.

14:36SPEAKERArrow is when they've replaced GDI the first time.

14:39SPEAKER- Okay, Arrow is the glassy one, right?

14:42SPEAKER- Yeah, it's the one that looked like frosted glass.

14:44SPEAKER- And then there's the Windows 10 Arrow one,

14:46SPEAKERwhich is acrylic?

14:48SPEAKER- I don't think there's, I don't think it's,

14:52SPEAKERno, it's not acrylic.

14:53SPEAKER- Would you bet money on it?

14:55SPEAKER- No.

14:56SPEAKER- You would not?

14:57SPEAKER- No.

14:58SPEAKER- Because it is in fact acrylic.

15:00SPEAKER- Really, that's a stupid name.

15:01SPEAKER- Yeah, yes, the Windows 10 era transparency stuff

15:04SPEAKERwas acrylic material, I think.

15:07SPEAKERAnyway, ask us anything about operating system UI elements.

15:13SPEAKER- I don't know, I, yeah, I, it's weird,

15:17SPEAKER'cause once it, when, during the time

15:19SPEAKERthat the windows were transparent,

15:21SPEAKERthe, everybody, everything was happening in the browser,

15:24SPEAKERand the browser, that's when Chrome moved the tabs

15:26SPEAKERup above the bar, so there, like,

15:28SPEAKERthere was less window Chrome on the windows

15:30SPEAKERyou were using all the time than ever before,

15:33SPEAKERso you didn't really, we didn't,

15:35SPEAKERwe never really lived in a transparent age, Brad,

15:37SPEAKERthat's what I'm saying.

15:38SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm with you.

15:40SPEAKERWindows should be opaque.

15:41SPEAKERThat's my, that's my one old man opinion.

15:45SPEAKERThe only one.

15:46SPEAKER- Yeah.

15:47SPEAKER- I like transparent windows, I don't,

15:49SPEAKERI don't have a feel, I don't,

15:50SPEAKERI don't have strong feelings either way, though.

15:52SPEAKER- Honestly, it's mostly a holdover

15:53SPEAKERfrom when that, like, tangibly slowed down the computer.

15:56SPEAKER- Yeah, we're probably fine now.

15:57SPEAKER- Yeah, I think we're probably past that.

15:59SPEAKERSeabird Song has a question for me.

16:03SPEAKERWhen unpacking and setting up the LG OLED,

16:05SPEAKERdid the thickness of the panel alarm you?

16:07SPEAKERIt's very impressive that it can be this thin,

16:09SPEAKERbut I almost wish it was a little thicker and sturdier,

16:10SPEAKERbecause every time I had to move mine,

16:12SPEAKERI was terrified it would snap in half, yes.

16:14SPEAKER- They're super scary.

16:15SPEAKER- That was unnerving, it's very thin.

16:18SPEAKERThey're very clear, don't lay it, like,

16:19SPEAKERwhen it's in shipping or you're bringing it home,

16:21SPEAKERdon't lay the box down flat, it needs to stay upright.

16:24SPEAKERLike they show on the box, don't even tilt it,

16:27SPEAKERpresumably because the screen can't support its own weight.

16:31SPEAKERThe crazy thing, though, is when you get it home,

16:34SPEAKERthis is LG, I can't speak for Samsung or Sony OLEDs,

16:37SPEAKERyou have to attach the base,

16:38SPEAKERand the only realistic way to do that,

16:40SPEAKERand we literally had to look up the video

16:41SPEAKERon LG's support YouTube channel to confirm this,

16:44SPEAKERis to lay the panel down flat on a table.

16:47SPEAKER- The thing that it tells you not to do?

16:49SPEAKER- Yes, well, I think once it's out of the box,

16:50SPEAKERmaybe it's okay, it's bizarre,

16:52SPEAKERand so they tell you to lay the panel down,

16:55SPEAKERface down, flat on a table, to screw,

16:58SPEAKERthe stand is quite heavy and it doesn't,

17:00SPEAKERthe panel does not slot into the stand,

17:02SPEAKERit only is held on by screws, essentially, and so-

17:04SPEAKER- So you have to screw it up from the bottom like a PS5?

17:07SPEAKER- Yeah, kinda, yes.

17:08SPEAKERSo you lay the panel down, according to their videos,

17:10SPEAKERyou lay the panel down, you just screw the base on,

17:13SPEAKERblah, blah, blah, here's the crazy thing, though,

17:14SPEAKERthey show it themselves, LG employees in this video,

17:18SPEAKERwhen they're done screwing this relatively heavy stand

17:20SPEAKERonto this panel, they pick it up

17:22SPEAKERand set it up upright by the panel,

17:24SPEAKERthey don't even touch the stand,

17:26SPEAKERthese two employees literally grab the corners

17:29SPEAKERof just the OLED panel and pick the entire TV up by them

17:32SPEAKERand set it up right, it's bizarre.

17:34SPEAKER- It's shocking to me that it's dainty enough

17:37SPEAKERthat that seems like a dangerous thing to do.

17:39SPEAKER- Yeah, and it's got some flex to it,

17:41SPEAKERwhen we were, I was like, okay,

17:42SPEAKERwhatever you say, support channel,

17:44SPEAKERand so we picked it up and it's got flex to it,

17:47SPEAKERthe panel is a little wobbly,

17:49SPEAKERa little wiggly when you pick it up like that.

17:51SPEAKER- How much does this whole thing weigh?

17:53SPEAKER- I don't know, that's a good question,

17:54SPEAKERmost of the weight is in the stand, I would say.

17:56SPEAKER- Yeah, so if you wall-mounted it,

17:58SPEAKERyou just put it on the VESA mount and call it a day, right?

18:00SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, you would just not use the stand at all.

18:04SPEAKERYeah, it was a bit unnerving, but it seems to have worked.

18:08SPEAKERNow, there's a, did I mention this last week,

18:11SPEAKERthere's a firmware bug where it just keeps

18:13SPEAKERshutting itself off randomly?

18:14SPEAKER- You said that when you're playing Xbox games or something.

18:16SPEAKER- It seems quite widespread,

18:18SPEAKERand it seems to have just started

18:19SPEAKERin the last six months or so,

18:20SPEAKER'cause that's where I see all the posts pop up

18:22SPEAKERfrom people saying, hey, after update, blah.

18:25SPEAKERIt's just turning itself off now, and I was like, cool.

18:27SPEAKER- Just what I want is to update my TV

18:29SPEAKERand have it stop working.

18:30SPEAKER- TVs with firmware bugs that may or may not ever get fixed,

18:33SPEAKERthat's cool. - I don't like that.

18:34SPEAKER- That's good stuff, that is good stuff.

18:38SPEAKERHere's a question for you from Infelicitous Rips.

18:42SPEAKERI have been wondering for ages now

18:44SPEAKERhow Patreon shout-outs get sorted.

18:46SPEAKERIs it linked with patronage,

18:49SPEAKERsomething to do with the Patreon backend,

18:52SPEAKERand unsorted dot text on Will's desktop?

18:55SPEAKER- So it is to do with the Patreon backend.

18:59SPEAKEROn the Patreon, like if you have a Patreon,

19:03SPEAKERyou have a page that lets you see everybody

19:04SPEAKERthat's subscribed to your business,

19:07SPEAKERand you can filter it by tier.

19:08SPEAKERSo on the monthly episodes, I filter by tier,

19:12SPEAKERand then it's just whatever the default sorting is.

19:15SPEAKEROh yeah, sorry, in the weekly episodes,

19:16SPEAKERthe ones that are just executive producer tier patrons.

19:19SPEAKEROn the monthly episode that's everybody,

19:21SPEAKERI add both executive producer tier

19:24SPEAKERand associate producer tier patrons,

19:27SPEAKERand then I sort by the tier

19:29SPEAKERso that I get all the executive producer people together

19:31SPEAKERand all the associate producer people together.

19:33SPEAKERAnd I think that maybe does it alphabetically,

19:35SPEAKERbut I'm not sure.

19:38SPEAKER- The Patreon backend is a mysterious place

19:41SPEAKERfull of wonder and danger.

19:43SPEAKER- It is, it is, it is weird.

19:46SPEAKERIt is a weird, like, the thing about all backends

19:50SPEAKERthat are not normal human facing is that they're slow.

19:53SPEAKEREvery, all of them, like Steam, Xbox, the Patreon thing,

19:58SPEAKERthe, our podcast upload,

20:00SPEAKERactually, I think our podcast upload interface

20:02SPEAKERis probably the fastest

20:03SPEAKERof all of the non-consumer facing things.

20:05SPEAKERAnd I guess that's because that the company

20:07SPEAKERthat makes that business is hosting podcasts for people.

20:10SPEAKERSo we are the consumer facing for that.

20:13SPEAKER- Yeah.

20:14SPEAKER- Yeah, Simplecast is our podcast host

20:16SPEAKERand I generally like working with their tools fairly well.

20:20SPEAKER- If you want to do a podcast, I would endorse Simplehost.

20:22SPEAKERI'd say they're a little more expensive,

20:24SPEAKERbut they're pretty good.

20:26SPEAKER- Yeah, they're not bad.

20:29SPEAKERQuestion from Jay Krauska here.

20:31SPEAKERYou bolded this, I didn't have a good answer for this,

20:34SPEAKERbut I hope you do.

20:35SPEAKERLet's say I have a collection of ripped media

20:37SPEAKERand that a buddy of mine also has a collection

20:39SPEAKERof ripped media and we want to combine forces

20:41SPEAKERand make an even greater collection of ripped media.

20:43SPEAKERWhat tools or mechanisms exist to help make this happen?

20:47SPEAKER- Well, there's this thing called the internet.

20:50SPEAKERSo back in the day, in a period of time in the,

20:54SPEAKERlet's say mid 2000s, like 2005, probably,

20:57SPEAKERa friend of mine invited me to a party where he was like,

21:00SPEAKER"Do you have an external hard drive?"

21:01SPEAKERAnd I said, "Yeah."

21:02SPEAKERAnd he said, "Do you have MP3s, right?"

21:03SPEAKERAnd I said, "Yeah."

21:04SPEAKERAnd he said, "And you've ripped them all yourself.

21:06SPEAKERThey're not like shitty ones you downloaded from Napster."

21:08SPEAKERHe's like, "Yeah, I did, ripped them all myself."

21:09SPEAKERHe's like, "Load up all your MP3s

21:11SPEAKERon this external hard drive,

21:12SPEAKERbring it to my house on Saturday,

21:13SPEAKERand there's gonna be a bunch of people there."

21:16SPEAKERAnd the statute of limitations

21:20SPEAKERprobably expired at this point.

21:21SPEAKERSo we all sat down and plugged in

21:25SPEAKERto a couple of computers there,

21:27SPEAKERand everybody swapped all of their MP3s

21:30SPEAKERinto subfolders on everybody else's external hard drives.

21:34SPEAKERAnd it worked really well.

21:34SPEAKERI didn't actually end up adding most of the MP3s

21:38SPEAKERthat I got through that method through to my collection

21:41SPEAKERbecause look, MP3 tagging, MP3 ripping,

21:46SPEAKERit's all like, I was an EAC guy.

21:48SPEAKERI was ripping with error correction on.

21:50SPEAKERI wanted to make sure I didn't have any weird glitches,

21:53SPEAKERyou know, the whole thing.

21:54SPEAKER- You wanted the log file with every rip.

21:55SPEAKER- Yeah, like I wanted to know what was there,

21:57SPEAKERand I would usually do MP3s in flax at the same time, right?

22:01SPEAKERWhich took time.

22:04SPEAKERBut I did pull a handful.

22:07SPEAKERThere was people who had some good bootlegs

22:09SPEAKERand stuff like that.

22:10SPEAKERThere were some bands that I'd never heard of before.

22:14SPEAKERFor a long time, I set it up as just a way

22:16SPEAKERthat I could play some random music,

22:20SPEAKERand it would use one of the Pandora type things

22:23SPEAKERto generate a bunch of like, vibe lists, basically.

22:28SPEAKERBut I think that, so depending on how you wanna go about it,

22:33SPEAKERthat's probably, that's a good place to start,

22:36SPEAKERlike putting your stuff on a drive

22:38SPEAKERand going to somebody's house, right?

22:41SPEAKERIf you don't wanna do that, you can use,

22:43SPEAKERlike Plex has the ability to share media libraries

22:47SPEAKERacross the internet if you open up your Plex

22:49SPEAKERto the outside world.

22:51SPEAKERSo like, I could share a library of music or TV shows

22:55SPEAKERthat I've ripped off of disks or saved from over the air

22:58SPEAKERor whatever to Brad using the power of the internet.

23:03SPEAKERYou can do that with music as well.

23:04SPEAKERPlex lets you set up per library sharing for individuals.

23:08SPEAKERLike for example, I have a bunch of home movies

23:10SPEAKERthat my sister can watch on her TV in Tennessee

23:14SPEAKERthat we've ripped and stuff like that.

23:16SPEAKERSo like, that's probably the best one.

23:20SPEAKERI haven't used the other, the Plex alternatives

23:22SPEAKERat this point.

23:23SPEAKERI think that that's, I think that some of that

23:24SPEAKERis Plex Pass only, so you have to have paid for Plex

23:28SPEAKERin order for some of that to work.

23:30SPEAKER- Okay, I know so Plex is not a solution

23:34SPEAKERI had considered here.

23:37SPEAKERYou could just each assemble your own library

23:39SPEAKERand then share them.

23:40SPEAKERLike in the Plex client,

23:41SPEAKERthen you're picking different libraries,

23:43SPEAKERyou know, it would be like.

23:44SPEAKER- But when you search, it shows you everything

23:47SPEAKERin all the libraries you have access to.

23:49SPEAKER- And in fact, like, you know, they do the same thing

23:51SPEAKERliterally every other content serving platform does

23:53SPEAKERwhere they hash a homepage that just includes content

23:56SPEAKERfrom every library you have shared with you

23:57SPEAKERall in one place.

23:59SPEAKERThat's not the worst idea, actually.

24:00SPEAKERI had been thinking more of the,

24:01SPEAKERalong the literal lines of combine all the files

24:04SPEAKERin one place and et cetera, et cetera.

24:06SPEAKERBut maybe the Plex idea is not the worst.

24:09SPEAKERI've put a fair amount of time into Jellyfin.

24:12SPEAKER- Yeah, how are you finding it?

24:14SPEAKERI haven't spent enough time with it yet to have an opinion.

24:16SPEAKER- Talking about Plex alternatives, it's good,

24:19SPEAKERbut it's still got a long way to go.

24:20SPEAKER- Yeah.

24:21SPEAKER- And some of that is down to the individual apps

24:24SPEAKERon the client end as it is with Plex, you know,

24:25SPEAKERlike depending on what device you're playing to,

24:27SPEAKERyour experience is going to vary a lot, but it's just,

24:30SPEAKERthere are a lot of features that just aren't quite there yet.

24:32SPEAKER- It's a big, like there's a big surface area of stuff

24:35SPEAKERthat people have to interface with, right?

24:36SPEAKERLike there's the server side, which is complicated.

24:40SPEAKERThere's all the transcoding stuff that has to happen,

24:41SPEAKERwhich is complicated.

24:42SPEAKERAnd then there's web clients, PC clients, iOS clients,

24:46SPEAKERAndroid clients, TV clients, Roku clients, like all,

24:49SPEAKERthere's a bazillion different things that have to

24:51SPEAKERall come together and work for like something to be

24:55SPEAKERas good as Plex, and the nice thing about Plex,

24:58SPEAKERdespite its problems, is that, you know,

25:01SPEAKERsomebody who's not an enormous, like I can send,

25:03SPEAKERI set up my parents with an account and they're able

25:05SPEAKERto get in and look at home videos, right?

25:07SPEAKERAnd like, I don't think Jellyfin, when I used it,

25:13SPEAKERwould pass that test.

25:14SPEAKER- So you can, it can do that quite well now.

25:17SPEAKER- Well, you know, I mean, I don't think that they could

25:19SPEAKERfigure out how to navigate the UI consistently,

25:22SPEAKER'cause I found, last time I used it, it was the Apple TV

25:26SPEAKERinterface was pretty rough still.

25:28SPEAKER- Yeah, the apps are not quite there, but they're close.

25:30SPEAKERLike conceptually, everything's laid out pretty much

25:33SPEAKERexactly like a Plex library.

25:34SPEAKERSo like, I think that's probably fine.

25:36SPEAKERAnd like, you know, the biggest advantage is there's no

25:39SPEAKERremote authentication.

25:40SPEAKERYou don't have to go through Plex's servers for people

25:42SPEAKERto register accounts and log in and stuff.

25:44SPEAKERSo you just make them a local account and they can just

25:46SPEAKERsign in and it works.

25:47SPEAKER- But I mean, the authentication thing is one of the,

25:50SPEAKERone of the things that makes it easier, I think,

25:52SPEAKERfor people 'cause they understand how that works.

25:54SPEAKERAnd then you have one Plex account rather than

25:56SPEAKER50 Plex accounts, right?

25:58SPEAKERAnyway, yeah, I would do Plex.

26:01SPEAKERYou can, like Brad said, you can set up the homepage.

26:03SPEAKERSo you have like the new stuff from Brad's server,

26:07SPEAKERthe new stuff from Will's server, the new stuff

26:08SPEAKERfrom Steve's server.

26:10SPEAKER- Yeah, there's been a lot of activity around Jellyfin's

26:13SPEAKERdevelopment, judging by their subreddit and the GitHub

26:16SPEAKERissues and commits and stuff.

26:18SPEAKERLike there seems to be picking up a lot of steam.

26:20SPEAKERSo I'm hopeful that it's going to get where it needs to be.

26:23SPEAKER- Is it open source?

26:24SPEAKER- Yes, it's entirely open.

26:25SPEAKERLike that's the whole selling point is nothing proprietary.

26:28SPEAKERNo.

26:29SPEAKER- We have a podcast that we talk to open source people.

26:32SPEAKERWe should get them on.

26:33SPEAKER- You know, that's actually not the worst idea.

26:35SPEAKERI had not considered that.

26:36SPEAKER- I hadn't thought about that.

26:37SPEAKER- Then I can ask them, hey, why does Jellyfin,

26:39SPEAKERwhen it transcodes, just transcode at the same bit rate

26:42SPEAKERas the source media?

26:42SPEAKER'Cause that doesn't seem sensible.

26:44SPEAKERLike Plex transcodes at a way higher bit rate

26:47SPEAKERthan the original file.

26:48SPEAKERSo there's no generational quality loss.

26:50SPEAKERAnd like, if you have,

26:52SPEAKERif you have a six megabit video and Jellyfin,

26:56SPEAKERand it needs to transcode,

26:57SPEAKERit will transcode a six megabit reproduction of it,

26:59SPEAKERwhich does not seem--

27:00SPEAKER- Probably like H265 to H264, or like--

27:04SPEAKER- Either way, from everything I've seen,

27:06SPEAKERit doesn't matter the codec.

27:07SPEAKERIt'll just take whatever bit rate and do it again,

27:09SPEAKERwhich seems questionable from a quality loss standpoint.

27:13SPEAKER- Non-optimal.

27:14SPEAKER- Can't configure stuff like that.

27:15SPEAKERThat's, that's a low level issue I have with it on top of a

27:18SPEAKERlot of UI stuff.

27:21SPEAKERAnyway, still a good time for hosting your own media,

27:24SPEAKERalways.

27:25SPEAKER- Yeah, especially like if you have a decent upstream,

27:28SPEAKERif you have a hundred megabit upstream,

27:29SPEAKERyou can do high quality sharing across the interwebs.

27:33SPEAKER- Yeah.

27:34SPEAKERFishy J, why do most consumer outdoor security cameras

27:38SPEAKERrequire you to use their own wireless base station

27:40SPEAKERrather than an existing wifi network?

27:43SPEAKER- So there's two questions that are similar to this one.

27:45SPEAKERThere's another one about somebody getting blink cameras

27:50SPEAKERand being--

27:51SPEAKER- I can actually, I can just read that one here too.

27:54SPEAKERBrixie was here, is this one.

27:57SPEAKER"I bought a set of blink cameras during prime day,

27:59SPEAKERjust installed them and found they only record short clips.

28:02SPEAKERI'm very dyslexic and have been trying to read about

28:05SPEAKERhow to fix this and have become very frustrated.

28:08SPEAKERIs there a camera system you would recommend

28:09SPEAKERthat kind of just works?"

28:12SPEAKER- So, okay.

28:13SPEAKERSo the reason everybody uses proprietary,

28:17SPEAKERthe reason wireless cameras use proprietary network

28:22SPEAKERconnections is because they're lower power.

28:24SPEAKERSo if you have a battery powered camera,

28:26SPEAKERit needs to check in every once in a while.

28:29SPEAKERIt can't run the stream full time

28:31SPEAKERwhere you have to charge it every three weeks or so.

28:33SPEAKERAnd people like to charge things twice a year,

28:36SPEAKERmaybe once a year,

28:39SPEAKERwhich is why generally they pair a motion sensor

28:42SPEAKERwith the camera so that the motion sensor triggers

28:45SPEAKERand that turns on the camera and then you catch the,

28:47SPEAKERyou miss maybe the first half second or something,

28:49SPEAKERbut you get the rest of it.

28:52SPEAKERThe solution to avoid this is to get RTMP cameras

28:58SPEAKERthat use like power over ethernet or something like that.

29:01SPEAKERAnd you can run those 24/7 and pipe them into like NAS

29:09SPEAKERor you can save the video on a NAS

29:12SPEAKERand hook it into Home Assistant

29:14SPEAKERor whatever your service of choice is.

29:17SPEAKER- Yeah, Home Assistant will pull.

29:19SPEAKERIt has integrations for cameras.

29:22SPEAKER- For example, you can get,

29:24SPEAKERI bought an Amcrest camera for like 50 bucks,

29:28SPEAKER80 bucks I think, that's a 4K camera

29:32SPEAKERthat has night vision and the whole thing.

29:34SPEAKERAnd it connects directly into Home Assistant.

29:36SPEAKERIf I wanted to save the video,

29:37SPEAKERI could save it to a folder on my NAS.

29:39SPEAKERI don't, but yeah.

29:42SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously sure people know

29:45SPEAKERI'm like the king of DIY and open source type stuff

29:48SPEAKERand I would probably do something like that,

29:49SPEAKERbut I do wonder if like,

29:51SPEAKERif you just want to get a set of cameras

29:53SPEAKERand like some kind of receiver that works,

29:54SPEAKERI wonder if that is a bit fiddly for the average person

29:58SPEAKERwho just wants to install and go.

30:00SPEAKER- So if you want something that installs and goes,

30:03SPEAKERI generally recommend the not buying cameras

30:07SPEAKERfrom vendors you've never heard of before.

30:11SPEAKERI have like Nest cameras.

30:13SPEAKERI've had Nest cameras that are pretty good.

30:15SPEAKER- Sure, are there any security concerns there

30:18SPEAKERwith stuff that, for no-name brands?

30:21SPEAKER- Yeah, that's why you don't buy no-name brands

30:23SPEAKERis 'cause if you're buying a no-name brand

30:26SPEAKERand it goes to somebody's server,

30:27SPEAKERthen you're assuming that everywhere in that chain

30:29SPEAKERhas good security and they've consistently proven

30:33SPEAKERthat they do not.

30:35SPEAKERSo like anytime you're connecting to a service,

30:38SPEAKERI want the service to be run by somebody who I trust

30:40SPEAKERto follow their privacy policy

30:42SPEAKERand to have best security practices and stuff like that.

30:45SPEAKERSo like I wouldn't buy a Ring camera

30:47SPEAKERbecause Amazon sucks, right?

30:51SPEAKERThe Google has been pretty good about this over the years

30:54SPEAKERand hasn't had a whole lot of problems

30:56SPEAKERand when they've had problems, they've fixed them.

30:58SPEAKERThe Nest cameras will upload video 24/7 for the most part.

31:01SPEAKERI think there's a couple of battery only ones

31:03SPEAKERthat are motion activated that do the same thing

31:06SPEAKERthat the Blink camera does.

31:08SPEAKERBut the video quality is good and you get like,

31:10SPEAKERmy parents have a Nest camera at their house

31:14SPEAKERand they get a notification when somebody leaves a package

31:17SPEAKERand it does a relatively low bit rate video stream

31:22SPEAKERthat's pretty high quality and it lets them know

31:25SPEAKERwhen a car drives by, it lets them know

31:27SPEAKERyou get a notification when there's an animal

31:28SPEAKERin the front yard, it detects packages

31:31SPEAKERand it recognizes faces, which is creepy but kind of useful

31:35SPEAKERwhen you're not at a house all the time.

31:38SPEAKER- Dude, speaking of animals in yards, holy crap.

31:41SPEAKER- You got bears?

31:42SPEAKER- There are so, no, my uncle does, but boy.

31:45SPEAKERLike, I don't know what's going on.

31:47SPEAKERThere are so many more animals around here,

31:49SPEAKERlike visibly in yards coming up to houses

31:51SPEAKERand stuff than there were 20, 30 years ago.

31:53SPEAKER- Is it because people have cameras

31:54SPEAKERand you're seeing the videos of them now?

31:56SPEAKER- Oh, no, no.

31:57SPEAKERIt's like I'm looking out the window and seeing them.

31:59SPEAKERLike there are tons of deer around here

32:00SPEAKERand there were never deer growing up.

32:02SPEAKERI think it might be overpopulation in that case.

32:04SPEAKER- Yeah, deer went up and down over the years for us

32:07SPEAKERwhen I was a kid because like some years

32:09SPEAKERthere'd be like 30 deer in the backyard

32:10SPEAKERand then famine the next year.

32:13SPEAKER- Yes, my first thought was like maybe they're being

32:15SPEAKERdisplaced by climate or like housing developments or both,

32:18SPEAKERbut I think in that case, it might just be more deer

32:20SPEAKERthan there used to be.

32:22SPEAKER- I mean, we see coyotes in the street

32:24SPEAKERand hear mountain lions in a way that we didn't

32:26SPEAKER10 years ago where we live.

32:28SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, there are two hawks

32:29SPEAKERthat have taken up residence behind my apartment

32:31SPEAKERin the middle of San Francisco recently.

32:33SPEAKER- That's cool.

32:34SPEAKER- That's interesting.

32:36SPEAKERThere are some interesting sounds that are generated

32:38SPEAKERby that arrangement.

32:39SPEAKER- Don't take the pigs for a walk, Brad.

32:41SPEAKER- No, definitely not.

32:43SPEAKERBut yeah, like out the back window here,

32:45SPEAKERit's like minor Bambi here.

32:49SPEAKERThere's like squirrels and chipmunks and birds

32:51SPEAKERflitting to and fro everywhere around the feeders and stuff.

32:54SPEAKERBut yes, we stopped by my uncle's place

32:56SPEAKERup on the mountain last night.

32:58SPEAKER- Yeah.

32:59SPEAKER- Showed us multiple pictures of bears on his deck outside,

33:03SPEAKERlike literally right outside his window.

33:05SPEAKER- Yeah, I honestly, I think some of that

33:07SPEAKERit's got to be that everybody has a camera in their pocket.

33:09SPEAKERSo like the things that we just saw

33:10SPEAKERbefore we now can take a picture of.

33:12SPEAKER- Right, sure, but I mean, this is,

33:13SPEAKERhe's literally up in the middle of nowhere on the mountain.

33:16SPEAKERAnd this is, these are black bears like outside his door.

33:20SPEAKERI mean, that's not that common.

33:22SPEAKER- Like I saw, I think I saw bears once

33:24SPEAKERwhen I was backpacking, but it was unusual to see them

33:26SPEAKERwhere there were people outside of like Gallenberg

33:28SPEAKERand stuff like that, where they'd become trash fiends.

33:31SPEAKER- Yes, trash fiends indeed.

33:34SPEAKER- Does your uncle have to have like special garbage cans now?

33:37SPEAKER- I don't know, actually.

33:38SPEAKERI didn't think I'd ask him about that.

33:40SPEAKERHe did, he had an encounter with like the,

33:42SPEAKERsome of them are like, you know, some smaller bears,

33:44SPEAKERlike less of a threat, but he said at one point,

33:46SPEAKERhe's a large man.

33:48SPEAKERAnd at one point there was a bear right outside

33:51SPEAKERon the deck that is bigger than him.

33:52SPEAKER- Yeah.

33:53SPEAKER- And the dogs got out there

33:54SPEAKERand it was real bad for about a seconds.

33:58SPEAKERBut anyway, they escaped.

34:00SPEAKER- Bears are bad.

34:01SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, bears are fine.

34:03SPEAKERThey just, you need to respect the bears.

34:06SPEAKER- Look, the teddy bear wildly misrepresents the lethality

34:10SPEAKERof your average, well, black bears are relatively chill,

34:14SPEAKERbut most of the other North American bears are bad news.

34:18SPEAKER- Brown bears are the really rough ones, right?

34:20SPEAKER- Brown bears and grizzlies and Kodiaks are all bad.

34:22SPEAKER- Right, right, yes, okay.

34:25SPEAKER- And I think two of those are maybe the same kind of bear,

34:26SPEAKERbut I don't know, I'm not a bear expert.

34:29SPEAKER- Bears are kind of cool.

34:31SPEAKER- Look, man, they're omnivores, I get it.

34:33SPEAKERI'm down with the bears, I got no beef with the bears.

34:36SPEAKER- Bear, the bear, the bear is an interesting animal

34:38SPEAKERnow that I have, so you're thinking about it.

34:40SPEAKER- Yeah.

34:41SPEAKER- All right, unimaginative pseudonym.

34:46SPEAKERHave either Brad or Will read "Showstopper,

34:49SPEAKERthe breakneck race to create Windows NT

34:51SPEAKERand the next generation at Microsoft?"

34:52SPEAKERIt seems like it would be their style.

34:54SPEAKERI have not even heard of that,

34:55SPEAKERbut it is going on the list right now.

34:56SPEAKER- Yeah, I literally put on the list

34:57SPEAKERwhen I was reading the notes.

35:00SPEAKERIf it's interesting, we'll do an episode about it

35:02SPEAKER'cause I'm, like, that was a fascinating time in computing.

35:05SPEAKER- Yes, I've been slowly, I've talked about this

35:07SPEAKERon numerous podcasts at this point,

35:09SPEAKERbut I've been slowly making my way

35:10SPEAKERthrough John Romero's new memoir

35:12SPEAKERabout his career in game development,

35:14SPEAKERand it's, like, it has extremely whetted the appetite

35:16SPEAKERfor more kind of tell-all books

35:19SPEAKERabout various software development from that era.

35:23SPEAKER- That book is $2 on Kindle right now.

35:26SPEAKER- Which one, "Showstopper"?

35:27SPEAKER- "Showstopper."

35:28SPEAKER- Is it recent?

35:29SPEAKERDid it come out fairly recently?

35:35SPEAKER'Cause I know there have been different books

35:36SPEAKERabout Windowses. - 2014.

35:37SPEAKER- Oh, well, that's reasonable.

35:39SPEAKER- Yeah.

35:40SPEAKER- That's not a Sinofsky book, is it?

35:43SPEAKERDidn't he do a book about early Windows?

35:45SPEAKER- He did a book about Vista, I think.

35:46SPEAKER- Oh, that was about Vista.

35:48SPEAKEROr maybe Windows XP.

35:51SPEAKER- Anyway, yeah, it feels like we're getting there.

35:53SPEAKERThe statute of limitations on people dishing

35:56SPEAKERhas lifted from the '90s.

35:58SPEAKER- The Vista story's gonna come out soon, man.

36:00SPEAKERIt's, like, that, honestly, the book I wanna read

36:03SPEAKERis the book about the Windows XP SP2.

36:07SPEAKERLike, that is, that was when Microsoft was, like,

36:11SPEAKERsuddenly decided that security was a thing

36:13SPEAKERthey had to give a shit about.

36:15SPEAKERAnd there was an organizational change

36:17SPEAKERover a period of, like, six months

36:18SPEAKERthat resulted in them ditching NeXT windows

36:23SPEAKERand going on and doing SP2

36:27SPEAKERand fixing the security problems with Windows XP

36:30SPEAKERand all sorts of stuff, it was a, yeah.

36:33SPEAKER- Like, any time there's a major initiative,

36:36SPEAKERespecially, like, a software one

36:37SPEAKERthat completely crashes and burns

36:39SPEAKERand they have to scramble

36:39SPEAKERand get something else out there rapidly is fascinating.

36:43SPEAKER- Yeah, 'cause, like, Windows XP,

36:45SPEAKERthe worm situation on Windows XP was an absolute disaster.

36:49SPEAKERAnyway, it's, yeah.

36:51SPEAKER- You know what I would love to read a book about?

36:52SPEAKERIf anybody knows of one, please write in.

36:55SPEAKERI would love to read an account of Copland,

36:57SPEAKERthe failed Mac OS, or System 8, I should say.

37:00SPEAKER- Oh.

37:01SPEAKER- 'Cause it wasn't Mac OS yet.

37:02SPEAKERAt that point, Copland was a historic disaster

37:05SPEAKERthat they developed for two or three years

37:07SPEAKERand, like, never even ran stably

37:08SPEAKERto the point that they had to kill it

37:10SPEAKERand turn the last service release

37:12SPEAKERof System 7 into System 8.

37:14SPEAKERAnd it's ultimately what precipitated them buying NeXT

37:17SPEAKERand bringing jobs back and moving to NeXTSTEP

37:19SPEAKERas the next Mac OS and all that stuff.

37:21SPEAKERAnd I would love to read a, like,

37:23SPEAKERbehind-the-scenes account of all that.

37:26SPEAKER- That's fascinating.

37:27SPEAKER- Yes, they talk, there's a lot of NeXTSTEP talk

37:29SPEAKERin that Romero book also, which is--

37:32SPEAKER- I can see that.

37:33SPEAKERThey were a big NeXT house in the '90s.

37:35SPEAKER- Yes, caters to my interest.

37:37SPEAKERI'm right in the middle of all the Quake strife right now,

37:39SPEAKERlike, all the what went wrong on Quake

37:41SPEAKERand how it led to everything falling apart.

37:43SPEAKER- I have to, I'm interested in, I'll pick that up.

37:46SPEAKERI'm, his perspective, I'd be interested,

37:50SPEAKER'cause he is mellowed with age in a way

37:52SPEAKERthat I think most, many of us did, right?

37:55SPEAKERLike, firebrands in our 20s become a little more mellow

38:01SPEAKERand introspective in our 40s and 50s.

38:04SPEAKERSo, yeah, I'd read that book.

38:06SPEAKER- Yeah, he is extremely diplomatic in this book, I would say.

38:11SPEAKER- Okay, question from Tuller.

38:16SPEAKERWith undervolting being the new overclocking,

38:17SPEAKERI have one question.

38:18SPEAKERIs it time to bring back the turbo button?

38:21SPEAKERI think it would be neat to have a simple physical switch

38:23SPEAKERto toggle between a more limited TDP and a higher one.

38:25SPEAKER- Oh, yes.

38:27SPEAKER- I support any features from the beige box era

38:30SPEAKERof personal computing coming back.

38:34SPEAKERGive me a vinyl case badge while we're at it, please.

38:37SPEAKERCan I have the little square cut out inset on the case

38:40SPEAKERto put a vinyl case badge on?

38:41SPEAKER- I want one of those puffy ones.

38:43SPEAKER- Yeah, that's our first computer ever,

38:45SPEAKERhad the little puffy vinyl.

38:47SPEAKERPeople's Computers was the local shop that we bought it from.

38:50SPEAKER- Oh, man.

38:50SPEAKER- And it was just a little black People's Computers badge

38:53SPEAKERon the front of the case.

38:54SPEAKER- I either want that or I want a shiny Intel inside sticker.

38:58SPEAKER- Yes, those are also good.

39:00SPEAKERI mean-

39:00SPEAKER- You can't have one of those, Brad, I'm sorry.

39:03SPEAKER- Most CPUs still come with a square like my Ryzen,

39:06SPEAKERmy new AMD.

39:07SPEAKER- I'll have to look in the box.

39:08SPEAKERI don't think I looked.

39:09SPEAKERI think Adam opened the CPU when we did my computer.

39:12SPEAKER- I'm pretty sure the Alder leak in my NAS also has one.

39:18SPEAKER- This idea of a low TDP mode is really interesting.

39:21SPEAKERI bet you could do that with a Stream Deck actually.

39:24SPEAKER- Maybe, yeah.

39:24SPEAKERWell, so it already exists in software in a lot of cases.

39:27SPEAKERIn fact, it absolutely does for both graphics cards

39:29SPEAKERand CPUs, but I don't know if you could toggle it on the fly

39:33SPEAKERfor actually, I'm sorry, for GPU, you totally can.

39:35SPEAKER- Yeah, for GPU, 'cause my GPU fan's not spinning right now.

39:39SPEAKER- MSI Afterburner would let you do that

39:41SPEAKERif there's a way to hook that into the Stream Deck.

39:44SPEAKERThe thing I was gonna say here is that undervolting

39:46SPEAKERseems to have been a very short-lived phenomenon

39:48SPEAKERbecause now all the manufacturers

39:50SPEAKERare not forcing you to drop the voltage.

39:51SPEAKERThey are just setting,

39:53SPEAKERI don't know how they do it electrically,

39:54SPEAKERbut they're doing their own supported power limiting,

39:57SPEAKERwhich is not, maybe it's still modifying voltage

40:00SPEAKERunder the hood, I don't think so.

40:02SPEAKERI think it's like just capping the power draw.

40:05SPEAKERLike it's called Eco Mode

40:06SPEAKERon the last couple of generations of Ryzens.

40:08SPEAKERLike you've seen Eco Mode, right, in the press, probably.

40:11SPEAKERYou can just go into the BIOS and say like,

40:12SPEAKER"Hey, limit this to 105 watts instead of 170."

40:16SPEAKERThat's not exactly TDP.

40:17SPEAKERMy understanding is that number

40:19SPEAKERdoes not represent straight TDP.

40:20SPEAKERIt's some similar measure of power consumption.

40:23SPEAKERAnd for newer, I don't know if this is not supported

40:26SPEAKERon older cards, but like 40 series Nvidia

40:29SPEAKERin an MSI Afterburner,

40:30SPEAKERyou no longer have to tweak the voltage curve.

40:32SPEAKERThere's just a straight up slider that is just power limit.

40:36SPEAKERLike I've got my 4090 set to 80% power right now.

40:39SPEAKERIt may not sound like a distinction that matters,

40:42SPEAKERbut you're not undervolting, which can cause instability.

40:45SPEAKERYou're setting a supported power limit, which does not.

40:47SPEAKER- Well, and also the manufacturers

40:49SPEAKERare getting much more aggressive

40:50SPEAKERabout how much they cycle down

40:53SPEAKERwhen you don't actually need the power, which is nice.

40:58SPEAKER- I hope they start trending in that direction.

41:00SPEAKERThere has been such a race to the top on power consumption

41:02SPEAKERfor just eking out extra benchmark numbers for a while now.

41:06SPEAKERAnd it sucks.

41:07SPEAKERAnd I hope that because it's very wasteful of electricity,

41:11SPEAKERnot to mention extra heat

41:13SPEAKERand you're not losing much performance.

41:15SPEAKER- Yeah, I wouldn't mind not having the extra heat right now.

41:17SPEAKER- Yes.

41:18SPEAKERQuestion from Warbird.

41:19SPEAKERI believe there's another one that pairs with this.

41:21SPEAKERIf you know where it is, I don't have it in front of me.

41:23SPEAKER- It's directly underneath it. I moved it up.

41:25SPEAKER- Oh, great. Perfect.

41:26SPEAKERAll right, the Warbird question.

41:27SPEAKERWhat's a concept, tech or otherwise,

41:29SPEAKERthat has been mission critical,

41:30SPEAKERbut somehow passed you by for far too long?

41:33SPEAKERExample, I worked as various flavors of Linux admin,

41:36SPEAKERDevOps, and ops for more than half a decade

41:38SPEAKERbefore I found out about tab completion.

41:41SPEAKERAnd only then by accidents,

41:44SPEAKERit was a very strange combination of feelings,

41:46SPEAKERmostly elation and a good bit of rage.

41:48SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a big one to miss.

41:51SPEAKER- Yes, tab completion, anybody who doesn't know,

41:53SPEAKERjust add a command line, type part of a command, hit tab,

41:56SPEAKERit will, or a file or anything,

41:58SPEAKERit will either complete it if there's only one option

42:01SPEAKERor give you a list of options if there's a bunch.

42:04SPEAKERI guess like an add-on to that,

42:06SPEAKERit took me until like very recently

42:08SPEAKERto realize the tab completion works

42:09SPEAKERfor like a ton of stuff in Linux.

42:13SPEAKER- Yeah.

42:14SPEAKER- Not just base commands for binaries

42:16SPEAKERthat are in your path or files in the current directory.

42:19SPEAKERLike I'm trying to think of an example, like ZFS supports it.

42:21SPEAKERSo if I like type half of a dataset name for ZFS

42:24SPEAKERand hit tab, it'll auto complete that.

42:25SPEAKEROr like chown, like if you're chowning a file,

42:30SPEAKERif you're changing the owner of a file,

42:33SPEAKERit'll match against all the users on the system.

42:35SPEAKERSo you can type like the first letter of a username

42:37SPEAKERand it'll hit tab everywhere is my advice

42:39SPEAKERand see what happens.

42:40SPEAKER- Well, I was gonna say the thing that took me a long time

42:42SPEAKERto realize is that you can hit tab

42:44SPEAKERto do arguments for something too.

42:47SPEAKERLike if you have to do a path in an argument,

42:51SPEAKERyou can tab complete that path on most stuff.

42:53SPEAKERIt seems like there's like,

42:55SPEAKERit's weirder when it doesn't work than when it does.

42:57SPEAKER- Yes, yes.

42:57SPEAKERAnd in fact, I assume this is the same for bash.

43:00SPEAKERI use Z shell, but you can write your own completions.

43:03SPEAKERLike you can actually,

43:04SPEAKERI don't think I would take the time to learn how to do that,

43:06SPEAKERbut you can write your own completions.

43:09SPEAKERThere's a mosquito on this table.

43:10SPEAKERCan I kill it?

43:11SPEAKER- Yeah, please.

43:13SPEAKER- It just flew.

43:14SPEAKERI didn't get it.

43:16SPEAKER- Godspeed little mosquito.

43:18SPEAKER- Oh no.

43:19SPEAKERI bet I've gotten about four dozen mosquito bites

43:22SPEAKERin the last week.

43:23SPEAKER- You want West Nile?

43:24SPEAKERThat's how you get West Nile, Brad.

43:25SPEAKER- It's bad around here.

43:27SPEAKERAnyway, let me read the other question here.

43:30SPEAKER- Yeah.

43:31SPEAKER- The moon room.

43:33SPEAKERI play Fortnite with a regular crew that developed back

43:35SPEAKERwhen Will mentioned the game getting good on the podcasts.

43:37SPEAKERToday, one of those regulars realized mid-match

43:41SPEAKERthat perks existed.

43:43SPEAKERWhat useful features of your favorite games or tech

43:45SPEAKERdid you go far too long before discovery?

43:48SPEAKER- Okay, so on the first side,

43:50SPEAKERI didn't realize that you could configure the quick links

43:54SPEAKERin Windows, that the thing, well, in the old days,

43:58SPEAKERit was at the top of the left column in File Explorer

44:01SPEAKERor Explorer, I guess is what it's called now.

44:04SPEAKER- I think it's still File Explorer.

44:05SPEAKERIs it not still there?

44:06SPEAKERI think it is in 10.

44:07SPEAKER- It's still there, but now they put home

44:10SPEAKERand they put the fucking OneDrive folder above it

44:13SPEAKERbecause Microsoft and you can't move the OneDrive folder

44:17SPEAKERabove the quick access.

44:18SPEAKER- It's above the quick access.

44:19SPEAKER- It's terrible, and it's still below.

44:21SPEAKERQuick access is still at the top where it should be

44:23SPEAKERbecause you need it to be quick.

44:25SPEAKER- Well, so for a long time, you couldn't,

44:28SPEAKERit defaulted to open the OneDrive,

44:30SPEAKERso then you have to, making the quick access useless.

44:32SPEAKERThey finally fixed that, so that's an improvement.

44:35SPEAKERBut you can pin stuff in there,

44:36SPEAKERand there's places all through Windows File Explorer

44:40SPEAKERand the Windows Start menu.

44:42SPEAKERYou can pin stuff on the Start menu,

44:43SPEAKERwhich they don't exactly make obvious,

44:48SPEAKERso you have to right-click it and know that

44:49SPEAKERthere's a pin to start option there.

44:51SPEAKERI didn't know about pin to start.

44:52SPEAKERI just pinned everything to the taskbar for years.

44:54SPEAKER- Ah, that's, I still prefer pinning to taskbar generally.

44:59SPEAKERWell, I have slight bone to pick with quick access menus

45:02SPEAKERsince we're talking about it.

45:04SPEAKERThose are not aliases to the thing you're quick accessing.

45:06SPEAKERYou can't rename them like shortcuts.

45:08SPEAKERThey are just the thing.

45:11SPEAKERDoes that make sense?

45:12SPEAKERSo like, let's say I had two different folders,

45:14SPEAKERboth called audio in different locations.

45:18SPEAKERIf I pin both of those to quick access,

45:19SPEAKERthey both just say audio.

45:20SPEAKER- Oh, yeah, you put different icons on them though.

45:23SPEAKER- Can you?

45:24SPEAKER- Well, you'd have to do it for the file, for the folder.

45:26SPEAKER- Oh, that's a, okay.

45:28SPEAKERI just ended up naming them different things.

45:30SPEAKER- That's how I, well, I have two things called tech pod

45:32SPEAKERand two things called videos,

45:33SPEAKERand one has a icon and the other doesn't.

45:36SPEAKER- Right, like they should just let you

45:38SPEAKERrename those, those should be shortcuts.

45:41SPEAKER- Did you know, do you know about the Windows key

45:42SPEAKERplus one, plus two, plus three, plus four, plus five?

45:45SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't use it as much as I should,

45:46SPEAKERbut yes, that's a good one.

45:47SPEAKER- That's one of my all-time faves,

45:49SPEAKERthat Windows key plus one opens the first icon

45:51SPEAKERon your taskbar, Windows key plus two opens the second one,

45:54SPEAKERand so on.

45:55SPEAKER- My problem is it passed about four or five icons,

45:57SPEAKERit gets harder to count.

45:59SPEAKER- Well, I just always have Firefox, Firefox File Explorer,

46:02SPEAKERDiscord, Steam, and OBS.

46:04SPEAKER- Yeah, for the first few.

46:05SPEAKER- It's the first five.

46:06SPEAKER- And if you have like, for example,

46:08SPEAKERif you have a browser on one

46:09SPEAKERand a bunch of browser windows open,

46:10SPEAKERthen it won't open another one,

46:12SPEAKERit'll cycle through all of them, I think, is how that works.

46:14SPEAKER- It depends on the browser, I think,

46:15SPEAKERbut here, I'll tell you in a sec.

46:17SPEAKER- That's possible.

46:18SPEAKER- Nope, cycles through the tabs.

46:19SPEAKER- Nope.

46:20SPEAKER- Firefox cycles through the tabs

46:21SPEAKERuntil you have more than like 10 or 20 tabs, I think.

46:24SPEAKER- Yeah.

46:26SPEAKERGosh, I wonder if I have any good examples for this.

46:29SPEAKER- This was a hard one to come up with.

46:30SPEAKERI'd be curious if, I bet people have interesting ones here,

46:33SPEAKER'cause I bet there's some stuff that we don't know about

46:34SPEAKERthat people have discovered.

46:36SPEAKER- Yeah, yes.

46:38SPEAKERAnd in our fancy new forum for weekly episodes,

46:42SPEAKERin the thread for, it is a thread, right?

46:44SPEAKERThat's what they're called.

46:45SPEAKER- It's called a post.

46:46SPEAKER- It's called a post, not a thread.

46:47SPEAKER- It's not a thread.

46:48SPEAKERThreads are threads, posts are in forums.

46:51SPEAKER- Threads means something different in Discord,

46:52SPEAKEReven though they now have a feature called forums,

46:55SPEAKERwhich you would expect to contain threads,

46:56SPEAKERbut in fact, they are posts.

46:58SPEAKER- Yeah.

46:58SPEAKER- In the post for this week's episode,

47:00SPEAKERI hope people will share stuff like this

47:02SPEAKERthat maybe other people don't know about

47:05SPEAKERthat could be helpful to them.

47:07SPEAKER- Yeah, that would be awesome.

47:08SPEAKER- Yes.

47:10SPEAKER- Fortnite, Fortnite has like live service games.

47:13SPEAKERThis is a problem we have as somebody

47:15SPEAKERwho's working on a game that has had 48 updates

47:17SPEAKERin the last year and a half.

47:21SPEAKERYou constantly have to be getting new players in

47:24SPEAKERto look at the game and watch them play

47:26SPEAKERto find out what they don't understand

47:27SPEAKERthat you've added to the game.

47:30SPEAKERSo Fortnite, I didn't realize you buy emotes in the game,

47:33SPEAKERso you can do like, I can do the Dougie, right?

47:37SPEAKERI didn't realize, unlike most games

47:41SPEAKERthat force you to load some subset of emotes

47:43SPEAKERat the start of the game,

47:44SPEAKERFortnite gives you access to everything

47:45SPEAKERyou've ever bought in every game.

47:47SPEAKERYou just have to scroll through the list

47:48SPEAKERand you hold down, you long press the emote button

47:51SPEAKERto get the wheel up and then you can scroll to other pages

47:53SPEAKERand get more and more and more and more and more.

47:56SPEAKERThey're alphabetized by the name of the emote.

47:59SPEAKERI have no idea.

48:00SPEAKERSo if you know the name of the emote,

48:03SPEAKERif you know like, actually I have no idea what it's called.

48:06SPEAKERIt's like dodging bullets or something.

48:08SPEAKERIt's a matrix, it's a, Neos Bullet Dodge is what it's called.

48:11SPEAKERSo if you go to the ends, you can do the,

48:14SPEAKERKeanu Reeves thing from The Matrix where you lean back.

48:17SPEAKERThat one's good because sometimes the characters

48:19SPEAKERwear sunglasses and sometimes they don't, Brad.

48:21SPEAKERIt depends on if they have glasses or eyes.

48:25SPEAKERBut also the glasses are scaled to the size of the eyes.

48:28SPEAKERSo if you have a character with really big eyes

48:30SPEAKERand the glasses are enormous

48:31SPEAKERand if you have a character with tiny eyes,

48:33SPEAKERthey're very, very small.

48:34SPEAKER- That's pretty good.

48:35SPEAKER- It's a good game.

48:35SPEAKER- Novelty, oversized facial accessories never get old.

48:40SPEAKER- Yeah, but like I cringe to think about like a game

48:43SPEAKERlike WoW that's been running for 20 years now

48:45SPEAKERand like what the, like how do you expose

48:51SPEAKER20 years worth of UI?

48:53SPEAKERI mean, I'm sure they've redone it at least a handful

48:55SPEAKERof times in the last 20 years.

48:56SPEAKERBut like just that level of the knowledge

49:02SPEAKERthat people who've been playing that game

49:03SPEAKERand working on that game for such a long time have

49:06SPEAKERversus say me coming back to that game after 20 years.

49:10SPEAKERLike I don't know how you communicate that

49:12SPEAKERwithout being really intentional about it.

49:14SPEAKERAnd I'm always in awe of the people who do that well.

49:17SPEAKER- Yeah, my impression from the couple of times a year

49:20SPEAKERI hop on the PTR just to run around

49:23SPEAKERis that they mostly are just catering to the people

49:25SPEAKERwho have been playing for a long time at this point.

49:27SPEAKER- Yeah, and I assume that there's a fair amount of,

49:29SPEAKERhey, my computer ran WoW in 2009,

49:31SPEAKERso why does it not run WoW now?

49:33SPEAKER- Yes.

49:34SPEAKER- So they can't change too much.

49:36SPEAKER- Yes, yes, okay.

49:38SPEAKERI had one, I lost it, I need to find it again.

49:42SPEAKERDid he say oven or stove?

49:44SPEAKERStove, here it is, argils.

49:48SPEAKERWhen I moved into my current residence

49:49SPEAKERit came with a smart stove.

49:52SPEAKEROnce a year in July on the dot

49:53SPEAKERthe control panel starts flashing an error

49:55SPEAKERand requesting that a technician be called.

49:58SPEAKERRather than do that, I open it up, unplug the connectors

50:01SPEAKERand plug it back in resolving the issue for another year.

50:05SPEAKERThis has gone on for four years.

50:07SPEAKERI'm paranoid that this is some service scam

50:09SPEAKERand the thing is pre-programmed to quote break

50:11SPEAKERafter some time.

50:13SPEAKERAm I being delusional or could that actually be the case?

50:16SPEAKER- So our oven has an error that comes up

50:19SPEAKERafter a period of time that's like,

50:21SPEAKERthat is because the pilot light needs to be cleaned.

50:24SPEAKERLike there's carbon buildup on the pilot

50:26SPEAKERand under the glow plugs that hit the gas.

50:31SPEAKERAnyway, there's a thing that has to be cleaned

50:33SPEAKERwhere the fire comes out to light the fire for the oven.

50:37SPEAKERAnd that's not based on any sensor, it's based on time.

50:39SPEAKERSo it could be something like that.

50:41SPEAKERI think as long as the oven continues to light

50:43SPEAKERyou're probably okay.

50:46SPEAKERI have not connected our stove to the internet.

50:50SPEAKERWe have a smart stove because you kind of can for the best.

50:52SPEAKERYou kind of can't buy a stove that's not a smart stove.

50:55SPEAKERAnd I think I hooked it up when we first got it

50:58SPEAKERbecause I was curious what it did.

51:01SPEAKERBut like you, in order to make it turn on remotely

51:05SPEAKERyou have to preload it and say, hey,

51:07SPEAKERhere's the settings I want and I want to turn on,

51:09SPEAKERI want it to be available to turn on remotely.

51:12SPEAKERSo it wasn't like I could just jam a casserole dish

51:15SPEAKERin there in the morning and then turn on the oven

51:16SPEAKERat the end of the day.

51:21SPEAKER- Based on my recent experience with firmware bugs

51:23SPEAKERand televisions, I'm gonna say

51:27SPEAKERany device that has firmware and controls fire,

51:32SPEAKERmaybe not a good idea.

51:33SPEAKER- I mean, the fire part is mostly not controllable

51:36SPEAKERby the computer, only the oven.

51:39SPEAKER- Oh, you're the dude.

51:40SPEAKER- Okay, fair.

51:41SPEAKER- Well, 'cause the guest stove has knobs.

51:43SPEAKER- Yes, sure.

51:44SPEAKERThat's fair.

51:45SPEAKERStill, I don't know, man.

51:47SPEAKERI don't know.

51:49SPEAKER- That reminds me, I have to call them

51:50SPEAKERand get them to come and replace the glow plugs on my oven

51:54SPEAKERbecause it hasn't worked in a couple of months.

51:56SPEAKER- Glow plug is a cool name for a part.

51:58SPEAKER- Is it, you know why it's called that?

52:00SPEAKERIt's 'cause you plug it in and it glows.

52:02SPEAKER- Oh, wow.

52:03SPEAKER- Yeah.

52:04SPEAKER- It's like truth in advertising.

52:05SPEAKERThe part where this is just call a technician on a timer

52:08SPEAKERand not, hey, here is what might be wrong

52:10SPEAKERor here's what needs to be cleaned.

52:12SPEAKERJust, hey, put in a service call maybe seems a little bit.

52:16SPEAKER- I mean, so I've changed the thing that lights the fire

52:20SPEAKERunder a stove before, under an oven before.

52:22SPEAKERIt was a fairly involved process

52:25SPEAKERthat involved like me laying on the ground

52:26SPEAKERand reaching four feet under the,

52:28SPEAKERto the back of the stove from the front.

52:30SPEAKERI wouldn't, I don't think that that's a user serviceable part

52:33SPEAKERlike I could, mine needs that now

52:36SPEAKERand I'm not, I'm gonna get somebody to come and do it

52:38SPEAKERrather than do it myself.

52:39SPEAKER- Yeah.

52:40SPEAKER- It's also under warranty still.

52:41SPEAKERSo I guess that changes the dynamic a little bit.

52:43SPEAKER- Sure.

52:45SPEAKERAnother question from the moon room.

52:47SPEAKERBaldur's Gate 3 is selling like hotcakes presumably.

52:51SPEAKERI'm sorry, let me reread that.

52:52SPEAKERI see where, I see what he's trying to say now.

52:55SPEAKERBaldur's Gate 3 is selling like hotcakes presumably did

52:58SPEAKERat some point in the distant past.

53:00SPEAKERI guess hotcakes were in fact very popular and still are.

53:03SPEAKER- Yeah, who doesn't like hotcake?

53:05SPEAKER- That's true.

53:06SPEAKERSo as I typed this, they're at 800,000 players on Steam.

53:08SPEAKERHow much of the success do you think is down

53:10SPEAKERto the game being cool

53:11SPEAKERversus a ton of marketing dollars spent?

53:13SPEAKERDoes marketing on Steam significantly change

53:15SPEAKERtheir recommendation results?

53:16SPEAKERDid they spend that much on marketing for that game?

53:19SPEAKER- So it was in early access for a really long time,

53:22SPEAKERwhich I think they did instead of a massive marketing.

53:24SPEAKERAlso it's a research of the coast game, yeah, three years.

53:28SPEAKERAs far as I know,

53:30SPEAKERI don't think there's a way to spend money marketing.

53:32SPEAKERI mean, there's not a systematized way

53:36SPEAKERto spend money on Steam.

53:37SPEAKERI'm sure you can talk to Valve and come up with something,

53:41SPEAKERbut it's not like the app store on iOS or Android or Amazon

53:47SPEAKERor any other place where there's an advertising layer

53:49SPEAKERon top of the store layer

53:50SPEAKERwhere you can pay to have your product featured easily

53:53SPEAKERand like is accessible to everyone.

53:58SPEAKERThe recommendation results on Steam are mostly based

54:01SPEAKERon how your game is doing on reviews

54:04SPEAKERis from what I've been able to tell.

54:07SPEAKERIf you want to do better on Steam,

54:11SPEAKERhaving good review scores

54:12SPEAKERand having lots of reviews coming in constantly

54:15SPEAKERfrom people who bought the game on Steam

54:16SPEAKERis the best way to do it.

54:18SPEAKERSo the corollary to that is if there is a game

54:21SPEAKERthat you like on Steam,

54:23SPEAKERtake two minutes and hit the thumbs up button

54:25SPEAKERand write a review of it.

54:26SPEAKEREven if you have criticisms of it

54:28SPEAKERand you think it's something you like,

54:30SPEAKERdon't, for God's sakes, just don't leave thumbs downs.

54:34SPEAKERI get up every morning and the first thing I do

54:36SPEAKERis look at Steam and I'm just like, oh man.

54:38SPEAKERSomebody's like, I really love this game,

54:39SPEAKERbut I'm like, oh shit, here it comes.

54:41SPEAKER- No time for thumbs downs.

54:43SPEAKER- Well, I mean--

54:44SPEAKER- Don't ruin Will's day.

54:45SPEAKER- It's not about my day, but it's like you're not,

54:49SPEAKERyou're actively hurting the game that you like

54:51SPEAKERif you give it a thumbs down.

54:53SPEAKER- Yeah.

54:54SPEAKER- Right now, the Ana Cruz is very positive on Steam

54:57SPEAKERfor the last 30 days.

54:58SPEAKERThat means we're above 80%.

55:00SPEAKER- That's good.

55:00SPEAKER- If you get into overwhelmingly positive,

55:02SPEAKERwhich is in the low nineties, I think, or mid nineties,

55:06SPEAKERall sorts of magic stuff happens.

55:07SPEAKER- Oh, I bet.

55:08SPEAKER- It's really good.

55:09SPEAKER- That's just, is that just hash from the recent reviews,

55:11SPEAKERnot the all time reviews?

55:12SPEAKER- So--

55:13SPEAKER- Oh wait, oh wait, they break it out for both, right?

55:14SPEAKERDon't they list a, they list a qualitative rating

55:18SPEAKERfor both all reviews and recent reviews, right?

55:20SPEAKERIt's like all time reviews are mixed,

55:22SPEAKERbut recent reviews are very positive.

55:25SPEAKER- If, yeah, if you have an overall,

55:27SPEAKERthey did that to stop review bombs,

55:29SPEAKERbut also it's good for people who are like trending up.

55:32SPEAKERLike our, with the exception of a few days here and there

55:36SPEAKERwhere we have like a rasher of negative reviews

55:39SPEAKERand that haven't, that have fall off

55:42SPEAKERafter some positive reviews,

55:43SPEAKERwe've been mostly or very positive for like the last year

55:46SPEAKERin the 30 day rolling total,

55:49SPEAKERbut our average is mostly positive

55:52SPEAKERfor people who bought the game.

55:53SPEAKERAnd then if you do stuff like free weekends,

55:55SPEAKERall the people who play during the free weekend

55:57SPEAKERget an opportunity to leave a review too,

55:59SPEAKERbut those don't count in the totals

56:02SPEAKERunless they buy the game.

56:03SPEAKERSo, it's a weird, the Steam thing is a weird system.

56:10SPEAKER- Yes, I believe that, certainly.

56:14SPEAKERHow about a couple, three more real quick here?

56:18SPEAKER- Oh, sorry, I wanted to say,

56:19SPEAKERlike in terms of marketing dollars spent,

56:21SPEAKERI don't think they spent a ton of money on Baldur's Gate.

56:23SPEAKERI didn't see bus ads, I didn't see billboards,

56:25SPEAKERI didn't see a lot of TV or internet video ads.

56:29SPEAKERThere were a handful, but not more than I would expect

56:31SPEAKERfor any other like triple A.

56:35SPEAKERI would expect they spent a couple hundred grand.

56:37SPEAKER- Yeah, I honestly, I think a big part of it

56:39SPEAKERis that people are just very hungry

56:41SPEAKERfor that kind of RPG again.

56:43SPEAKERAnd there are some of them out there, but not a ton.

56:45SPEAKERAnd this one has the Dungeons and Dragons stamp on it.

56:50SPEAKERThat's obviously going to boost it somewhat as well.

56:52SPEAKERI like Baldur's Gate in itself is a hallowed name.

56:55SPEAKER- Well, yeah, and there's a famous GDC talk,

56:58SPEAKERI don't remember who gave it,

56:59SPEAKERbut it's the gist is nobody knows your game.

57:01SPEAKERLike nobody knows what your game is.

57:03SPEAKERThat is the thing everybody fights, right?

57:06SPEAKERIs that even if you've been making games

57:09SPEAKERfor a really long time, unless you're super giant

57:12SPEAKERand you've released five games and they've all been bangers

57:14SPEAKERand you have this built up audience that loves your work,

57:17SPEAKERyou, especially if you're a new studio,

57:21SPEAKERnobody knows your games.

57:21SPEAKERNow, Larian's been making games for 15 years at this point

57:24SPEAKERand they've made a series of bangers,

57:28SPEAKERbut still letting people know

57:30SPEAKERthat there's a new Baldur's Gate.

57:31SPEAKERIt's not like Baldur's Gate is a franchise

57:33SPEAKERthat was, the last Baldur's Gate game

57:37SPEAKERcame out 20 years ago.

57:38SPEAKERSo they did early access, they did it really well.

57:43SPEAKERThey listened to the community, they engaged with people,

57:45SPEAKERthey reacted and they shaped the game based on that feedback

57:50SPEAKERand they used the audience to test,

57:52SPEAKERwhich is like the best kind of marketing

57:55SPEAKERis somebody that says,

57:56SPEAKERyeah, I played this game in early access.

57:57SPEAKERLike when Jason told me about Dead Cells,

58:00SPEAKERJason Oestreicher told me about Dead Cells five years ago,

58:03SPEAKERhe was like, yeah, I played this in early access,

58:05SPEAKERit's super dope.

58:06SPEAKERAnd I was like, well, that's the, like,

58:08SPEAKERI can't, no better endorsement than,

58:10SPEAKERhey, I've played this entire game

58:11SPEAKERand it's really good before it was done.

58:14SPEAKER- And I still want to keep playing it

58:15SPEAKERnow that I've played a ton of the unfinished version.

58:17SPEAKER- Yeah, like I literally downloaded it the other day

58:19SPEAKER'cause they've added so much to it

58:20SPEAKERsince the last time, Dead Cells, incredible game.

58:22SPEAKERAnyway.

58:23SPEAKER- Yeah, did that get its PS5 release?

58:25SPEAKERI need to check.

58:25SPEAKERThey were gonna do a free PS5 upgrade for people.

58:28SPEAKER- I don't know, they have, they added the Castlevania,

58:31SPEAKERI bought the Castlevania thing the other day.

58:34SPEAKER- That stuff is rad.

58:35SPEAKER- I hadn't gotten to that environment yet,

58:37SPEAKERbut yeah, it's like super,

58:39SPEAKERit's so cool that like the thing that inspired them

58:41SPEAKERended up getting looped into the game.

58:43SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.

58:44SPEAKERHow better do you know that you've made it

58:46SPEAKERthan your own inspiration wants to work with you?

58:50SPEAKER- Yeah, I absolutely, I love that game.

58:52SPEAKERI've been, shout out for Dead Link

58:54SPEAKERin the interest of promoting other indie games.

58:57SPEAKERIt came out a couple of weeks ago

58:59SPEAKERand it's a like roguelike,

59:01SPEAKERit's like imagine Doom's kind of combat loop

59:04SPEAKERwhere you have like a couple of powers and jumps

59:06SPEAKERand stuff like that, but it's roguelike

59:09SPEAKERwhere you run through a series of arenas.

59:11SPEAKER- I saw this, I saw this going around

59:13SPEAKERand there are a lot of this type of shooter these days.

59:15SPEAKER- This is the best one of them that I've played

59:17SPEAKERby a huge margin.

59:19SPEAKER- Kind of run together a little bit,

59:20SPEAKERbut I did not realize this was a roguelike or light.

59:23SPEAKER- I looked at it and thought it was like Gunfire Reborn,

59:26SPEAKERbut it is a different kind of game than that.

59:28SPEAKER- I might have to give this a look.

59:30SPEAKER- Knowing what you like, you would like this a lot.

59:32SPEAKERThe shooting is very fast and crisp and doomy.

59:36SPEAKER- Yeah, also there's another one called Turbo Overkill

59:40SPEAKERthat just came out that apparently is also extremely good.

59:42SPEAKER- Well, check that out.

59:43SPEAKER- Which is put out by Apogee Entertainment.

59:45SPEAKERPerhaps you've heard of them.

59:46SPEAKER- I've heard of Apogee.

59:48SPEAKER- Apogee factors pretty heavily in that Romero book

59:51SPEAKERabout the dawn of shareware.

59:53SPEAKER- Isn't that where they worked

59:54SPEAKERwhen they were doing Commander Keen or something?

59:56SPEAKER- No, that was Soft Disk was the company

59:58SPEAKERthey actually worked for, but Apogee was their publisher for,

1:00:02SPEAKERdid Apogee invent shareware?

1:00:04SPEAKERWe should talk about shareware sometime,

1:00:05SPEAKERbut not right now.

1:00:07SPEAKERNot right now, but shareware was a fascinating concept.

1:00:09SPEAKER- So Turbo Overkill looks grimier.

1:00:13SPEAKER- Dead kill is very crisp.

1:00:15SPEAKER- Dead link, right?

1:00:17SPEAKER- Dead, did I say dead kill?

1:00:18SPEAKERDead link, yeah.

1:00:20SPEAKER- Yeah, dead link looks like a modern game,

1:00:22SPEAKERnot like a retro throwback, visual treatment.

1:00:25SPEAKER- It shoots like a old game though.

1:00:27SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:00:28SPEAKER- It's for old men.

1:00:30SPEAKER- Well, great.

1:00:33SPEAKERDebating whether to read this vertices

1:00:35SPEAKERto question about whiskey.

1:00:37SPEAKERWhat is your whiskey of choice?

1:00:38SPEAKERIt seemed like Will was suggesting an anti-Pete agenda

1:00:41SPEAKERand a reason episode, please talk more about whiskey.

1:00:43SPEAKERThank you.

1:00:44SPEAKER- I wasn't suggesting it.

1:00:46SPEAKERI was saying, if you want dirt with your booze,

1:00:48SPEAKERthen just go get a mouthful of dirt.

1:00:50SPEAKER- And just go get a bottle of Laphroaig.

1:00:54SPEAKERIt's like...

1:00:55SPEAKER- I'll drink a bourbon.

1:00:56SPEAKERThank you.

1:00:57SPEAKER- I think I stole this from somebody.

1:00:59SPEAKERI don't remember if I read this somewhere,

1:01:00SPEAKERbut the super peated Isla,

1:01:04SPEAKERIsla's, which is type of scotch,

1:01:06SPEAKERare like drinking a campfire put out with seawater.

1:01:10SPEAKER- That sounds horrible.

1:01:12SPEAKER- It's great.

1:01:13SPEAKERIt's the best.

1:01:14SPEAKERIt's the best.

1:01:15SPEAKER- I'll just like a nice sipping bourbon,

1:01:17SPEAKERbut I don't even really drink anymore.

1:01:18SPEAKERSo it's not...

1:01:19SPEAKER- I'm kind of on a whiskey hiatus myself,

1:01:21SPEAKERbut it is the very definition of an acquired taste,

1:01:26SPEAKERbut man, it's great.

1:01:28SPEAKERMaybe we'll talk more about whiskey some other time.

1:01:30SPEAKER- We can get Adam back to talk about booze again.

1:01:32SPEAKERHe needs to be down.

1:01:33SPEAKER- I got deep into,

1:01:34SPEAKERI haven't had bourbon in like years at this point.

1:01:37SPEAKERI got way into scotch and Irish whiskey

1:01:39SPEAKERover the last couple, three years.

1:01:41SPEAKER- Bourbon got really expensive

1:01:42SPEAKER'cause it got unreasonably popular for a little bit there.

1:01:46SPEAKERSo long time bourbon drinkers suffered

1:01:48SPEAKER'cause all of your garden variety,

1:01:54SPEAKERinexpensive daily drinkers like Basil Hayden

1:01:57SPEAKERand all that stuff suddenly were 50 bucks a bottle.

1:01:59SPEAKER- Yes, like my new favorite scotch

1:02:02SPEAKERis the Balvin E12 double wood,

1:02:05SPEAKERwhich if you're lucky,

1:02:07SPEAKERyou can find for 50 bucks around these days,

1:02:09SPEAKERbut mostly like 60.

1:02:11SPEAKERAnd so I've only gotten one bottle of it so far

1:02:14SPEAKER'cause I got it on a sale.

1:02:15SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:02:16SPEAKER- But then I happened to look up a review of it

1:02:17SPEAKERfrom eight years ago, maybe,

1:02:21SPEAKERat which point it was like $33.

1:02:23SPEAKER- Well, that's-

1:02:24SPEAKER- So the price creep,

1:02:25SPEAKERthe price creep on anything in that space.

1:02:28SPEAKERAnd it's a weird,

1:02:30SPEAKERwe're getting far afield of the show here,

1:02:32SPEAKERbut it's an interesting like supply chain issue

1:02:34SPEAKERbecause it takes so long to produce, you know?

1:02:36SPEAKER- I mean, that's it.

1:02:37SPEAKERA decent bourbon is at least a seven-year pipeline.

1:02:40SPEAKER- Right, right, and scotch.

1:02:41SPEAKERI mean, some of this owes to climate,

1:02:43SPEAKERbut scotch is usually like the minimum age

1:02:46SPEAKERfor a single malt is usually like 12 years

1:02:48SPEAKERas considered like a good cutoff.

1:02:50SPEAKERSo it's just like you have to preload your inventory so much.

1:02:54SPEAKER- Well, it's funny.

1:02:56SPEAKERI talked about this with Adam

1:02:57SPEAKERwhen we did the tested video with him,

1:02:59SPEAKERbut it is totally straight up supply demand economics, right?

1:03:04SPEAKERLike when there are more people

1:03:07SPEAKERthat want to drink the scotch than there is scotch,

1:03:09SPEAKERthe price goes up.

1:03:10SPEAKERAnd when there are fewer than the price goes down,

1:03:13SPEAKERthe same thing for bourbon.

1:03:14SPEAKERAnd like your vodkas and gins

1:03:16SPEAKERare a much faster production process.

1:03:18SPEAKERSo they can just ramp up or ramp down on any given year.

1:03:20SPEAKER- That's the thing is that if something ends up being hot,

1:03:23SPEAKERyou can't just ramp up production

1:03:24SPEAKERand supply or satisfy the demand, right?

1:03:27SPEAKER- Well, people try.

1:03:28SPEAKER- Well, yeah, so that, sorry, rambling here.

1:03:31SPEAKERLike if you read a lot of reviews

1:03:33SPEAKERof like emerging distilleries and stuff like that,

1:03:34SPEAKERa lot of them will get their operation going,

1:03:37SPEAKERbut then source the distilled spirit from someone else

1:03:40SPEAKERand like age it themselves to try to get going faster

1:03:43SPEAKERas they build toward distilling their own.

1:03:45SPEAKERBut that takes like years.

1:03:46SPEAKER- Yeah, or like the place in Alameda

1:03:50SPEAKERstarted out making like kind of artisanal gin

1:03:54SPEAKERand clear spirits and then moved into bourbon

1:03:57SPEAKERand stuff like that as after they'd been up and running

1:04:01SPEAKERfor a few years.

1:04:02SPEAKER- Yeah, like there's less whiskey.

1:04:04SPEAKER- I think Adam talked about it when we had them on,

1:04:05SPEAKERthere's the, what is the firm?

1:04:06SPEAKERMGD, I think is the name of the company in like Indiana

1:04:09SPEAKERthat supplies like some insane amount of the actual whiskey

1:04:12SPEAKERthat is produced in America. - The corn whiskey, yeah.

1:04:14SPEAKER- They distill all of it and then just send it to people

1:04:16SPEAKERto do what they will with.

1:04:17SPEAKER- Yep.

1:04:18SPEAKER- Anyway, I guess we did talk about whiskey a little bit.

1:04:22SPEAKERAnd another question from Warbird.

1:04:24SPEAKERI don't know if this is tech related at all, but.

1:04:26SPEAKER- Warbird's the new cake batter, I guess.

1:04:28SPEAKERSorry, cake batter, you've been replaced.

1:04:30SPEAKER- How does Brad handle the welfare

1:04:32SPEAKERof the pigs during cross-coast jaunts?

1:04:34SPEAKERPig sitters?

1:04:36SPEAKERPigs in a pet container must be small enough

1:04:38SPEAKERto fit underneath the seat without blocking any person's path

1:04:40SPEAKERto the main aisle of the airplane.

1:04:42SPEAKERI would never do that to them.

1:04:43SPEAKER- I can't imagine they would do well on the plane.

1:04:45SPEAKER- They would not do great.

1:04:46SPEAKERI mean, I think they wouldn't make it,

1:04:47SPEAKERbut they would be very frightful time, let's say.

1:04:51SPEAKERAnd also the setup to care for them.

1:04:53SPEAKERI would have to buy so much stuff on the other end

1:04:57SPEAKERto properly care for them.

1:04:59SPEAKER- You'd have to have like a cage and build a new cage

1:05:02SPEAKERand get hay in and all kinds of stuff.

1:05:04SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:05:05SPEAKERWell, hay in North Carolina is less of a problem,

1:05:07SPEAKERit turns out.

1:05:07SPEAKER- Probably, yeah, you're probably right.

1:05:09SPEAKERWe could find some good Timothy around here.

1:05:11SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:05:13SPEAKER- Our solution now is that we don't travel together anymore.

1:05:17SPEAKER- Oh, that sucks.

1:05:18SPEAKER- It sucks.

1:05:19SPEAKERIf one of us has to go out of town,

1:05:20SPEAKERthe other has to stay home.

1:05:21SPEAKER- We are successful pig sitters, Brad,

1:05:23SPEAKERand I'm just saying we've-

1:05:24SPEAKER- Yeah, it's true.

1:05:25SPEAKERWe've discussed it, actually.

1:05:27SPEAKERIt has come up as an option before.

1:05:28SPEAKER- We have pig sat a couple of times now.

1:05:30SPEAKERWe have no fatalities.

1:05:33SPEAKER- For the longest time,

1:05:36SPEAKERthe lady who ran the rescue down in La Honda,

1:05:38SPEAKERwhere we got our first piggies from,

1:05:40SPEAKERalso did boarding for incredibly reasonable prices.

1:05:43SPEAKERAnd she was incredible.

1:05:45SPEAKEROne of our piggies when we boarded them there

1:05:47SPEAKERfor like a week had an extreme health issue

1:05:50SPEAKERin the middle of it.

1:05:51SPEAKERAnd she like dropped everything to care for her,

1:05:55SPEAKERliterally around the clock to keep her alive

1:05:57SPEAKERuntil she got better.

1:05:58SPEAKERLike it was literally a like needs to be,

1:06:01SPEAKERneed medication and like syringe food

1:06:03SPEAKERneed to be administered every like three hours

1:06:05SPEAKERaround the clock.

1:06:06SPEAKERSo she was straight up getting up in the middle of the night

1:06:08SPEAKERfor a couple of days to keep our pet alive.

1:06:11SPEAKER- That's what you want.

1:06:12SPEAKERBut I mean, that's above and beyond.

1:06:14SPEAKER- And took her to an emergency vet.

1:06:17SPEAKERBut again, she ran a rescue,

1:06:19SPEAKERhad been running a rescue for like 20 years

1:06:21SPEAKERand like had extreme experience with this stuff.

1:06:23SPEAKERAnyway, once she moved out of the area,

1:06:26SPEAKERand it's hard to, no offense,

1:06:28SPEAKERonce you've had that level of, you know.

1:06:31SPEAKER- Yeah, no.

1:06:33SPEAKER- We have not settled on a new pig sitting situation

1:06:36SPEAKERjust yet.

1:06:37SPEAKER- Well, I mean, I assume anybody who has

1:06:39SPEAKERany kind of like non-dog or cat pet,

1:06:42SPEAKERlike this is a common problem.

1:06:44SPEAKERLike you have to have somebody,

1:06:45SPEAKERlike if you have a bird or something,

1:06:46SPEAKERit's not like you can just take them

1:06:47SPEAKERto the normal boarding place.

1:06:48SPEAKER- Exotics, exotics are a whole thing

1:06:50SPEAKERwhen it comes to vets and care and like different,

1:06:53SPEAKERevery animal's, every species is different,

1:06:55SPEAKERbut piggy's health is very fragile.

1:06:58SPEAKER- Yeah, they seem a little delicate.

1:07:00SPEAKER- They can go from seemingly okay

1:07:03SPEAKERto life threatening in like 24 hours

1:07:05SPEAKERif all kinds of different stuff happens.

1:07:07SPEAKERSo you have to be kind of on your toes.

1:07:08SPEAKERAnd yes, there is a shortage of exotic vets

1:07:11SPEAKERin the city right now, and it's bad.

1:07:13SPEAKER- I, Brad, I like to watch the YouTube channels

1:07:16SPEAKERwith the pigs where they have like 50 pigs

1:07:20SPEAKERthat live in a pig barn.

1:07:22SPEAKER- It's pure joy.

1:07:23SPEAKER- It's very good.

1:07:24SPEAKER- That's really nothing negative

1:07:27SPEAKERabout a video of like 50 to a hundred pigs

1:07:30SPEAKERjust having a bunch of vegetables thrown in.

1:07:32SPEAKER- Yep, just chuck in a bucket,

1:07:34SPEAKERthey chuck in buckets of vegetables,

1:07:35SPEAKERmaybe a piece of watermelon or something,

1:07:37SPEAKERand the pigs go ham.

1:07:40SPEAKER- Unadulterated excitement, yes, the pigs go ham.

1:07:43SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:07:44SPEAKER- All right, one more, two more, two more quick ones.

1:07:47SPEAKER- We should do that email too, I think.

1:07:50SPEAKER- All right, let me do the email real quick.

1:07:51SPEAKERI forgot about that one from Sean.

1:07:54SPEAKERYou'll have to tell me what Azul is here.

1:07:56SPEAKERI picked up Azul for Christmas on your recommendation

1:07:59SPEAKERand it's become a big hit in our house.

1:08:00SPEAKERThe biggest fan besides myself is my six-year-old daughter

1:08:04SPEAKERwho pick up the mechanics and rules surprisingly quickly.

1:08:06SPEAKERDo you have any new games to recommend,

1:08:08SPEAKERespecially ones geared toward older players,

1:08:10SPEAKERbut maybe your daughter was able to pick up easily?

1:08:12SPEAKERAnother recommendation I have beyond Azul is King of Tokyo,

1:08:15SPEAKERwhich my daughter also picked up quickly

1:08:17SPEAKERdespite some more detailed rules.

1:08:20SPEAKERPS, do you think Azul could scale past four players

1:08:22SPEAKERof your body so I can copy?

1:08:24SPEAKER- So Azul is a board game.

1:08:26SPEAKERIt's a tile making board, a tile placement board game

1:08:29SPEAKERwhere you have to place, like the rules are basically

1:08:32SPEAKERlike you can put each, there's five different colors

1:08:35SPEAKERof tile and you put them on a five by five grid

1:08:38SPEAKERand you can't have two of the same color tile

1:08:40SPEAKERon the same row or same column.

1:08:43SPEAKERSo you like there's, and there's placement rules

1:08:46SPEAKERabout how it all works.

1:08:46SPEAKERIt's a, it is maybe my all time favorite board game.

1:08:50SPEAKERSo it's hard to, it's a hard follow up.

1:08:53SPEAKERFor games that a six year old can play,

1:08:57SPEAKERCatan Jr. is really good, is a big hit in the house.

1:09:02SPEAKERA six year old who's pretty good at spatial stuff

1:09:05SPEAKERcan play Carcassonne pretty easily,

1:09:07SPEAKERwhich is another classic, like you might have played

1:09:10SPEAKERthat on Xbox Arcade.

1:09:11SPEAKERThere's a really good iPad, like one of the things

1:09:13SPEAKERI like to do, especially for like wildly popular

1:09:15SPEAKERclassic games like Catan and Carcassonne

1:09:18SPEAKERand stuff like that is grab the iPad or console version

1:09:21SPEAKERfor like five bucks and you can try it out

1:09:23SPEAKERbefore you spend 40 bucks on the real deal.

1:09:27SPEAKERThe Seven Wonders, Seven Wonders is another good one

1:09:30SPEAKERfor adults, it's a, how do you describe it?

1:09:35SPEAKERYou basically are, you're collecting cards

1:09:40SPEAKERthat generate score in different ways.

1:09:42SPEAKERThere's like five different ways to get score,

1:09:44SPEAKERbut it's a drafting game in that one time, one hand,

1:09:49SPEAKERlike you pick a card from your hand

1:09:51SPEAKERand then you pass your hand to someone else

1:09:53SPEAKERand people have to keep, you keep passing your card around.

1:09:57SPEAKERSo it's kind of like, you have to kind of keep track

1:09:59SPEAKERof what's going on in the different,

1:10:02SPEAKERin everybody's hands as you play.

1:10:06SPEAKERThere's a kid friendly version of Seven Wonders

1:10:09SPEAKERcalled Seven Wonders Architects that simplifies

1:10:12SPEAKERthat a little bit because the keeping track

1:10:15SPEAKERof six different kinds of cards on a five player table

1:10:19SPEAKERis hard for small brains.

1:10:24SPEAKERSeven Wonders Architects simplifies that dramatically

1:10:26SPEAKERand it also shortens it.

1:10:27SPEAKERSo it's, the good thing about Seven Wonders

1:10:30SPEAKERis everybody plays at the same time,

1:10:31SPEAKERso you don't have to wait for people.

1:10:32SPEAKERIt's not like somebody has to decide what to do

1:10:34SPEAKERon their turn and then you're waiting.

1:10:36SPEAKERIt kind of works the same as Azul

1:10:37SPEAKERwhere you just play your moves very quickly.

1:10:42SPEAKERSeven Wonders Architects is a good version of that for kids.

1:10:45SPEAKERIt's relatively new.

1:10:46SPEAKERWe play that a lot with my daughter.

1:10:48SPEAKERSplendor is another really good game.

1:10:53SPEAKERThere's two layers of mechanics for that.

1:10:56SPEAKEROne is that you just score what's on the board

1:10:58SPEAKERand then the other is that there's some bonus cards.

1:11:00SPEAKERIf you take out the bonus cards for younger kids,

1:11:03SPEAKERit makes the game much more accessible.

1:11:04SPEAKERSo okay, so Seven Wonders for adults is fabulous,

1:11:09SPEAKERespecially if you're teaching people

1:11:10SPEAKERto play more complicated games.

1:11:12SPEAKERCatan Junior is great for kids.

1:11:14SPEAKERSeven Wonders Architects is great for kids.

1:11:17SPEAKERAnd then Jean and I have been playing a lot of Lost Cities,

1:11:20SPEAKERwhich is a head-to-head,

1:11:23SPEAKERlike all time best head-to-head game, I think.

1:11:28SPEAKER- That was a lot of information about board games.

1:11:29SPEAKERI'm impressed.

1:11:30SPEAKER- I play a lot of board games.

1:11:31SPEAKERI don't play as many as I used to,

1:11:33SPEAKERbut I still play quite a few.

1:11:34SPEAKERWe've kind of settled down into a handful

1:11:36SPEAKERand we'd be at one or two a year at most now.

1:11:39SPEAKER- Yeah, it seems expensive and also space consuming

1:11:41SPEAKERif you have a bajillion board games.

1:11:42SPEAKERThat's a lot of shelf space.

1:11:44SPEAKER- Yeah, I just pile them up on a desk

1:11:46SPEAKERin the corner of my office, which is not an ideal solution.

1:11:49SPEAKER- Or just buy enough of them to make a desk out of them.

1:11:52SPEAKER- I need to replace the extra desk with some shelves,

1:11:55SPEAKERI think, is the next step.

1:11:56SPEAKER- Shelves are good.

1:11:57SPEAKERStorage space is good.

1:11:58SPEAKERSitting in a basement right now

1:11:59SPEAKERin a house with a lot of storage space, boy.

1:12:02SPEAKER- I would love to have storage.

1:12:03SPEAKERI could use more storage space.

1:12:05SPEAKER- San Francisco houses,

1:12:06SPEAKERwe don't have enough storage space, it turns out.

1:12:08SPEAKER- Yep, I don't think I could,

1:12:10SPEAKERI could not buy a house without a basement.

1:12:12SPEAKERI don't think at this point.

1:12:15SPEAKERAll right.

1:12:15SPEAKER- We've got bad news about Bay Area houses, Brad.

1:12:17SPEAKER- Well, I've got some other bad news about Bay Area houses.

1:12:20SPEAKER- Oh, okay.

1:12:23SPEAKERLettitus is the last question here.

1:12:27SPEAKERIn the Wireguard segment,

1:12:28SPEAKERyou discussed the great use cases for a home VPN,

1:12:30SPEAKERlike protecting network traffic at an airport

1:12:32SPEAKERor internet cafe or extending your pie holes DNS

1:12:35SPEAKERand ad blocking when you're away from your home network.

1:12:38SPEAKERBut you didn't mention your strategy

1:12:39SPEAKERfor identifying your base IP address.

1:12:41SPEAKERDoes your ISP service come with a static IP?

1:12:46SPEAKERIf not, do you have a preference for domain name

1:12:48SPEAKERand provider and how do you keep the DDNS updated?

1:12:52SPEAKERAlso, thanks for the Ionic name drop in the EV trip talk,

1:12:55SPEAKERloving mine after three months and 3,500 gas-free miles.

1:13:00SPEAKER- I haven't met many Ionic drivers who don't like them yet.

1:13:03SPEAKERThat's always a good sign.

1:13:04SPEAKER- Yeah, that's, that seems promising.

1:13:06SPEAKERI'll let you go first.

1:13:07SPEAKERWhat do you, how do you,

1:13:08SPEAKERso what they're asking about here is

1:13:11SPEAKERif you have a VPN at home, when you're away from home,

1:13:14SPEAKERyou need to know your home IP address to connect to that VPN.

1:13:17SPEAKERAnd in theory, pretty much every internet provider out there

1:13:22SPEAKERif you're not paying for a static IP

1:13:24SPEAKERis going to assign you one dynamically that could change.

1:13:27SPEAKER- In practice, in practice on my last, I don't know,

1:13:30SPEAKERprobably two ISPs for like,

1:13:32SPEAKERI feel like it's been like a decade since my WAN IP,

1:13:35SPEAKERmy home IP public one actually changed

1:13:38SPEAKERon an internet provider, like kind of ever.

1:13:41SPEAKER- Yeah, my home IP hasn't changed in a really long time,

1:13:43SPEAKERbut I also have DuckDNS running on the home assistant.

1:13:47SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:13:48SPEAKER- So DuckDNS is a dynamic DNS provider.

1:13:50SPEAKERIt's free, it has less, let's encrypt support.

1:13:53SPEAKERSo you get encrypted DNS, it's pretty good.

1:13:59SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:14:00SPEAKER- You can set up a, like, I think if you want to pay

1:14:03SPEAKERfor a domain, a top domain of your choice, you can,

1:14:07SPEAKERor you can do like whatever DuckDNS.org

1:14:10SPEAKERor one of their, one of their domains,

1:14:11SPEAKERyou can do a subdomain of one of their domains.

1:14:13SPEAKER- Yeah, like DynDNS.org was the classic one

1:14:16SPEAKERthat you would see a ton back in the day.

1:14:18SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:14:19SPEAKER- And you're, you're assigning like, what is that?

1:14:21SPEAKERThe subdomain, I guess is the name for that.

1:14:23SPEAKERLike you, it would be like willsmith.duckdns.org.

1:14:26SPEAKER- That's it.

1:14:27SPEAKER- That's the address you're going to get.

1:14:27SPEAKERAnd those are free, like you said.

1:14:30SPEAKER- How'd you get my domain, Brad?

1:14:31SPEAKER- I had to think about it very hard.

1:14:36SPEAKERLike, like, like they suggested in here, you can get,

1:14:38SPEAKERyou can just go buy a domain name and use that.

1:14:41SPEAKERI've said before many times now,

1:14:43SPEAKERI feel like I'm shilling for them.

1:14:45SPEAKERPorkbun.com is a great registrar, is who I use.

1:14:49SPEAKERBut I use Namecheap's DNS service

1:14:51SPEAKERbecause it's free.

1:14:52SPEAKER- Oh, that's nice.

1:14:53SPEAKER- I have a domain that I, that I bought or registered.

1:14:56SPEAKERYou know, I don't use one of the, like, DNS ones.

1:14:58SPEAKER- Public facing one, yeah.

1:15:00SPEAKER- So I have my own domain that I use.

1:15:01SPEAKERI use Namecheap for their,

1:15:03SPEAKERthey have a free dynamic DNS server.

1:15:04SPEAKERI run it on my router.

1:15:05SPEAKERIt sounds like you run it on your home assistant.

1:15:07SPEAKER- Yeah, it's just, it's just a HACS add on

1:15:10SPEAKERfor home assistant.

1:15:12SPEAKER- My edge router, my, in fact,

1:15:14SPEAKERI think probably a lot of consumer routers

1:15:16SPEAKERhave dynamic DNS built into them at this point.

1:15:18SPEAKERYou can even run it on a Windows machine or a Mac.

1:15:21SPEAKERIt's just a tiny program that just updates DNS

1:15:23SPEAKERevery so often and says like,

1:15:25SPEAKER"Hey, this is the, this is still the numeric IP here

1:15:28SPEAKERthat you should map that domain to."

1:15:29SPEAKERThat's all it does.

1:15:30SPEAKERSo you can run that.

1:15:31SPEAKER- At this point-

1:15:31SPEAKER- You can run it on literally anything

1:15:32SPEAKERbehind your, your firewall.

1:15:34SPEAKER- My NAS will do this too.

1:15:36SPEAKERI, I like doing the Duck DNS home assistant plugin

1:15:39SPEAKERrather than using like, like,

1:15:42SPEAKERI don't have an ASUS router,

1:15:43SPEAKERbut if I had an ASUS router

1:15:44SPEAKERusing a ASUS's service or whatever,

1:15:45SPEAKERbecause it's more, a little bit more portable.

1:15:48SPEAKERSo I'm not stuck with the, like,

1:15:50SPEAKERlike I have a, I have a Duck DNS URL

1:15:52SPEAKERrather than a ASUS's backend URL

1:15:57SPEAKERor Netgear's backend URL or Synology's backend URL.

1:16:00SPEAKERSo if I change off of those pieces of hardware,

1:16:02SPEAKERI'm not boned.

1:16:04SPEAKERI don't actually, like the interesting thing is

1:16:07SPEAKERI use Nabucasa for the home assistant remote access.

1:16:11SPEAKERSo I'm not actually using,

1:16:12SPEAKERthe Duck DNS also provides Let's Encrypt certificate

1:16:15SPEAKERfor HTTPS communication to the, the home assistant instance.

1:16:21SPEAKERYou have to set that up manually, but it's worth doing.

1:16:24SPEAKERYou like, yeah.

1:16:27SPEAKERAnyway, it's the Let's Encrypt/Duck DNS combo was,

1:16:30SPEAKERit's, it's an easy way to get both

1:16:31SPEAKERof the dynamic DNS and the, and the SSL.

1:16:35SPEAKER- Yes, now the thing I wanted to ask about,

1:16:37SPEAKERwhich is it's whole, it's a, it's a whole other topic.

1:16:39SPEAKERIt's like a patron episode topic to dive into.

1:16:43SPEAKER- A, I've been thinking about running a reverse proxy

1:16:45SPEAKERat home for a long time.

1:16:47SPEAKERIf I ever actually had time to dig in

1:16:48SPEAKERand understand certificate authorities

1:16:50SPEAKERand how to set everything up.

1:16:53SPEAKER- What's the benefit of running a reverse proxy at home,

1:16:55SPEAKERBrad?

1:16:56SPEAKER- So reverse proxy would intercept all traffic

1:16:58SPEAKERto different services coming,

1:17:00SPEAKERtraffic coming into your land from outside

1:17:02SPEAKERand delegate the traffic internally to those.

1:17:06SPEAKERSo you only have to one, oh, I guess,

1:17:08SPEAKERI guess the biggest benefit that like everyone

1:17:10SPEAKERshould probably be able to identify with

1:17:12SPEAKERis you would only ever have to open one port

1:17:14SPEAKERto the reverse proxy and ultra traffic goes through that

1:17:16SPEAKERto, to it.

1:17:18SPEAKER- How does it know where to end up?

1:17:20SPEAKER- That's part of what I barely understand

1:17:22SPEAKERis that you have to set, you have to configure it to say,

1:17:25SPEAKERlike, well, so traffic would be coming to subdomains.

1:17:29SPEAKERSo like, I'm trying to think of a good example here.

1:17:31SPEAKER- Got it, so you'd have like a jelly fin

1:17:34SPEAKERand you'd have an SSL, you'd have an SSH

1:17:36SPEAKERand you'd have a.

1:17:37SPEAKER- So like traffic, if I understand correctly,

1:17:39SPEAKERso like traffic sent to jellyfin.brad.domain

1:17:42SPEAKERwould hit the reverse proxy.

1:17:44SPEAKERAnd then it would know that on that sub domain,

1:17:46SPEAKERit would send it along to the relevant thing.

1:17:49SPEAKEROne of the, one of the other, in fact,

1:17:50SPEAKERprobably the biggest benefit that I actually want,

1:17:53SPEAKERyou know how you've probably got,

1:17:54SPEAKERlike everybody's got a bunch of devices on their networks

1:17:56SPEAKERthat don't have valid certificates.

1:17:58SPEAKERSo every time you open their web interface,

1:17:59SPEAKERChrome or whatever complains and says,

1:18:01SPEAKERhey, this website might not be safe.

1:18:03SPEAKERLike you got to click through warnings

1:18:05SPEAKERbefore you can get to it.

1:18:07SPEAKERYou can set up certificates for all of those

1:18:08SPEAKERor maybe even just a certificate.

1:18:10SPEAKERThat's again, I don't understand super well yet.

1:18:13SPEAKER- So the problem.

1:18:13SPEAKER- So like that solves that, that basically,

1:18:16SPEAKERthat solves the like, hey, this website is not safe

1:18:18SPEAKERwhen it's just something running on your land thing.

1:18:20SPEAKERIt's a blanket way to fix that problem.

1:18:23SPEAKER- And then you set up that internal domain

1:18:25SPEAKERto be the domain to be the,

1:18:27SPEAKER'cause the problem often is that like,

1:18:28SPEAKERlike if I set up the DuckDNS,

1:18:30SPEAKERthe certificate for the DuckDNS URL,

1:18:33SPEAKERit works when I'm outside,

1:18:34SPEAKERbut it errors out when I do the inside private address

1:18:37SPEAKERbecause the certificate doesn't match.

1:18:39SPEAKER- Yes, now here's the thing I actually want to ask,

1:18:43SPEAKERand hopefully the network, the networking channel,

1:18:45SPEAKERabsolutely on the Discord will have answers for this

1:18:47SPEAKER'cause people really know their shit in there.

1:18:50SPEAKERNow I'm wondering if you could set up the reverse proxy

1:18:52SPEAKERon a remote instance, like a virtual private server

1:18:56SPEAKERand run the dynamic DNS on that.

1:18:59SPEAKER- You'd have to VPN everything into that remote server.

1:19:01SPEAKER- That's my question.

1:19:02SPEAKERYou would then have to tunnel everything

1:19:04SPEAKERfrom the VPS to your home, right?

1:19:05SPEAKERAnd I assume you'd probably use WireGuard

1:19:07SPEAKERor something like that for that.

1:19:08SPEAKER- Yeah, but there's gonna be performance implications.

1:19:11SPEAKER- That's the question is if it's worth doing,

1:19:13SPEAKERif it would actually hinder the throughput enough to matter.

1:19:16SPEAKERI mean, the big advantage there is then people

1:19:19SPEAKERcan't just get your home IP.

1:19:20SPEAKER- It's probably fine for everything,

1:19:22SPEAKERbut I wouldn't run games through that, I guess.

1:19:24SPEAKER- Or even, I don't even know

1:19:25SPEAKERabout video streaming actually, maybe,

1:19:28SPEAKERbut that's the privacy would be the big advantage there

1:19:31SPEAKERis that when people did a lookup on your domain,

1:19:35SPEAKERthey would get the IP of the VPS,

1:19:36SPEAKERnot the IP of your router at home.

1:19:39SPEAKERSo it's kind of extra layer of obfuscation.

1:19:41SPEAKERBut again, I don't know

1:19:42SPEAKERif that's actually worth pursuing or not.

1:19:44SPEAKER- I think it's better to just security

1:19:46SPEAKERthrough obscurity or demand.

1:19:48SPEAKER- If you, let's say you've streamed a lot of video

1:19:51SPEAKERon the internet and occasionally your domain ends up

1:19:54SPEAKERon there.

1:19:56SPEAKERSee, it's a specialized use case.

1:19:59SPEAKERIt's not something everybody needs to worry about.

1:20:01SPEAKER- Yeah, I can see how that would be a problem.

1:20:03SPEAKER- Yes.

1:20:04SPEAKER- Yeah.

1:20:05SPEAKER- I've had my old domain show up on there before.

1:20:08SPEAKERAnd so I've changed all that stuff out.

1:20:12SPEAKERAnyway.

1:20:13SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a dilly of a pickle.

1:20:17SPEAKER- Yeah, it'll be fun.

1:20:18SPEAKERWe'll talk to people on the discord,

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1:21:35SPEAKERThank you for listening.

1:21:35SPEAKERBe proud all about network stuff endlessly.

1:21:38SPEAKER- Yeah, and I'm curious at what people,

1:21:42SPEAKERI'd love to get feedback from patrons

1:21:45SPEAKERabout how they like the new forum structure

1:21:48SPEAKERfor this week's episodes.

1:21:49SPEAKERWe did that specifically 'cause people who maybe listen

1:21:53SPEAKERa few weeks behind often feel like they miss out

1:21:55SPEAKERon the conversations about the episodes.

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1:22:03SPEAKERI mean, look, the official forum motto is never scroll up.

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1:22:09SPEAKERabout the old episodes, you can scroll up.

1:22:11SPEAKERThat's fine in that context.

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1:22:16SPEAKERSo please post maybe in this week's episode forum

1:22:18SPEAKERand let us know what you think.

1:22:20SPEAKERAnd if you don't see the forums, restart Discord

1:22:22SPEAKERand they'll pop up for you.

1:22:23SPEAKERThat seems to be fixing that for most people.

1:22:25SPEAKER- Yes, also a quick thank you to Cake batter.

1:22:29SPEAKERMy Discord time has been limited

1:22:30SPEAKERwhile I've been out of town, but he wrote a bot.

1:22:33SPEAKER- Oh.

1:22:33SPEAKER- That is going to auto create a thread every week

1:22:36SPEAKERfor each new episode.

1:22:37SPEAKER- Oh, that's fabulous.

1:22:38SPEAKERI didn't know that that was actually,

1:22:40SPEAKERlast I saw that was a, you know,

1:22:42SPEAKERsomebody could create a bot.

1:22:43SPEAKER- Yes, he went and did it.

1:22:45SPEAKERI have not had a chance to look at it

1:22:46SPEAKERor figure out how to set it up.

1:22:48SPEAKERNo, no, I think we have to do it.

1:22:50SPEAKER- Yeah, no, I do.

1:22:51SPEAKEROkay, I'll reach out then.

1:22:52SPEAKER- Yeah, so it seems very Docker centric.

1:22:55SPEAKERI think he wrapped it in a Docker configuration

1:22:57SPEAKERand it's probably time for me to learn more about that.

1:23:00SPEAKERSo I might, I might hit him up and.

1:23:02SPEAKER- Okay, I can put it on the,

1:23:03SPEAKERit's easy for me to check it on the Synology too.

1:23:05SPEAKERI have a Docker setup there these days.

1:23:09SPEAKER- Anyway, thank you for doing that.

1:23:10SPEAKERThat should, hopefully we'll just get a nice thread

1:23:12SPEAKERright along with the episode post every week.

1:23:14SPEAKER- That's awesome.

1:23:15SPEAKERSo, and I think a shout out to, I think Fortune.

1:23:23SPEAKERI want to say Fortune.

1:23:24SPEAKERNo, Wedge, Wedge and Fortune.

1:23:25SPEAKERMostly Fortune did the setup,

1:23:28SPEAKERpulled in a bunch of old episodes

1:23:30SPEAKERwhen we sent those sort of forums

1:23:31SPEAKERand did a bunch of the mod work there.

1:23:33SPEAKERSo thanks to Fortune for that.

1:23:34SPEAKER- Yes.

1:23:35SPEAKER- But thank you to all of our patrons,

1:23:38SPEAKERbut especially our executive producer tier patrons,

1:23:40SPEAKERincluding Andrew Slosky.

1:23:42SPEAKERBunnyfiend is now an annual member

1:23:43SPEAKERof the Make People Say Things Club.

1:23:47SPEAKERYou get, you get, you save some money

1:23:48SPEAKERif you go to an annual sub rather than a monthly, just FYI.

1:23:52SPEAKERPaddle Creek Games Makers of Fractured Vale,

1:23:54SPEAKERDavid Allen, James Kamik, Joel Krauska, Jordan Lippett,

1:23:57SPEAKERJust Wedge 3.0, Nick Johnston,

1:24:00SPEAKERPantheon Makers of the HS3 High Speed 3D Printer,

1:24:04SPEAKERand Twinkle Twinkie.

1:24:05SPEAKERThank you all so much.

1:24:06SPEAKERAnd also thank you to our associate producer tier patrons,

1:24:10SPEAKERincluding Alejandro Navarro, Andre M. Burke,

1:24:13SPEAKERArthur Gies, Ben Tolman, Dave Ullian, Eric,

1:24:16SPEAKEREric Frey, Eric Klein.

1:24:18SPEAKERWe're three Eric's deep now.

1:24:19SPEAKERThat's a lot of Eric's.

1:24:21SPEAKERGraham Banks, Jad Rita, Jason Rooney the ref,

1:24:24SPEAKERMatt Walker, parentheses Walkman 8080, close parentheses,

1:24:28SPEAKERNathan Phelps, Sanchik Kumar, Steve Lin,

1:24:31SPEAKERThomas Shea, and Tom Hilton.

1:24:32SPEAKERThank you all so much.

1:24:34SPEAKER- Yes, thank you.

1:24:34SPEAKERRight now, how many Eric's do you think we can get?

1:24:37SPEAKERWhat if we just, maybe every Eric who listens

1:24:39SPEAKERshould sign up just to see if we can set the record

1:24:41SPEAKERfor most Eric's. - Just gonna slap

1:24:43SPEAKERthis podcast and see how many Eric's we can fit in here.

1:24:45SPEAKERYou can fit so many Eric's in here.

1:24:47SPEAKER- That's right.

1:24:48SPEAKERBut yeah, yes, thank you.

1:24:48SPEAKERThank you to everyone.

1:24:49SPEAKER- I expected, I expected more Dan's, honestly,

1:24:51SPEAKERif I was, if I was being honest.

1:24:54SPEAKERBut yeah, thank you all so much.

1:24:55SPEAKERAnd we will be back next week with another episode

1:24:57SPEAKERof The Tech Pod.

1:24:59SPEAKERHave a lovely week.

1:24:59SPEAKERWe'll see you then.

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