00:00SPEAKERPast me really screwed over current me last year.
00:03SPEAKER- God, past you was always doing that.
00:05SPEAKERWhat's up with that guy?
00:06SPEAKER- What a jerk.
00:07SPEAKERLast year at the end of the year,
00:09SPEAKERI have a window fan that I put in my office window
00:11SPEAKERthat has like two fans.
00:13SPEAKERIt seals up the whole window
00:14SPEAKERand you can set it either to suck or to blow.
00:16SPEAKERSo we use it to like suck the hot air out of the house
00:19SPEAKERwhen it's really hot at the end of the day
00:20SPEAKERand there's nice cool air outside.
00:22SPEAKER- An exhaust fan, yes.
00:23SPEAKER- Yes, an exhaust fan.
00:24SPEAKERBut the fan motor had got, it was like 10 years old.
00:29SPEAKERI'd take it apart and clean it every year
00:31SPEAKERand get all the dust and grime off of it
00:32SPEAKER'cause fans in the Bay Area get kind of icky.
00:36SPEAKERBut the motor was wobbly and it was squeaking.
00:39SPEAKERIt was making noise, which I, you know, I can't.
00:43SPEAKERNo noise, no noise.
00:44SPEAKER- Zero tolerance for wobbly motors.
00:46SPEAKER- I don't truck a wobbly motor.
00:49SPEAKERSo past me was like, the junk guys are coming to haul.
00:52SPEAKERI cleaned out the garage, I put in the junk pile.
00:55SPEAKERAnd then yesterday and the day before,
00:57SPEAKERit's like 80 degrees here in beautiful San Francisco.
01:01SPEAKER- I heard, I heard I've been missing.
01:02SPEAKERI mean, we've got plenty of heat here, don't get me wrong.
01:04SPEAKERBut I heard I have been missing some warm times.
01:07SPEAKER- Yeah, it's been, at one point,
01:09SPEAKERlast night at like seven o'clock,
01:10SPEAKERI looked around in my office.
01:11SPEAKERI was like, oh, it's 85 degrees in here.
01:13SPEAKERThat's not what you want.
01:13SPEAKER- Nice.
01:14SPEAKER- I was like, I'll go to the garage,
01:15SPEAKERget the fan out and plug it in.
01:17SPEAKERThis is, it's nice and cool outside.
01:18SPEAKERThis is gonna be great.
01:19SPEAKERI went to the garage, I looked where the fan goes.
01:21SPEAKERI was like, wait, there's no fan.
01:22SPEAKEROh, damn it.
01:24SPEAKER- You've rendered yourself fanless.
01:25SPEAKER- I fan myself.
01:27SPEAKERSo I went to Amazon, as one does,
01:29SPEAKERand I was like, I'm gonna,
01:31SPEAKERlook, I looked at some fan reviews.
01:33SPEAKERI'd been eyeing this Voronado window transom fan
01:38SPEAKERthat Wirecutter likes.
01:40SPEAKERAnd it's like four inches tall.
01:42SPEAKERYou put it in the window.
01:44SPEAKERIt can be set to either suck or blow.
01:46SPEAKERAnd it's a circulator, it's not a fan.
01:48SPEAKERIt moves the air through the whole room
01:50SPEAKERthrough some sort of magic designed in Aurora, Illinois
01:53SPEAKERor something, I don't know.
01:54SPEAKERAnyway, I bought into it.
01:57SPEAKERI was like, I'm gonna try this.
01:58SPEAKERAnd Amazon was like,
01:59SPEAKERyeah, we can have it there in September.
02:00SPEAKERI was like, well, it's August now
02:03SPEAKERand it's gonna be hot tomorrow.
02:04SPEAKERSo I went to Home Depot.
02:05SPEAKER- Oh, hey, it'll still be hot in September, but go on.
02:08SPEAKER- No, optimism.
02:10SPEAKERI went to Home Depot 'cause Home Depot was like,
02:12SPEAKERwe have 23 of them in stock.
02:14SPEAKER- Okay.
02:15SPEAKER- So I rolled up on the Home Depot
02:16SPEAKERand I went to the place, like I opened up the,
02:18SPEAKERI got there and was like, hey,
02:18SPEAKERdo you wanna use the in-store experience?
02:20SPEAKERI was like, this is really cool.
02:21SPEAKERIt's gonna give me like a map and show me where to go
02:23SPEAKERand this enormous warehouse
02:24SPEAKERso I can find exactly the thing that I want.
02:27SPEAKERAnd I hit the button and it was like,
02:28SPEAKERyeah, see an associate.
02:30SPEAKERSo I, and it had a picture of where it was on the map.
02:32SPEAKERSo I went to where it said it was on the map
02:34SPEAKERand I looked around, I was like, there aren't any fans here.
02:36SPEAKERThis isn't even a fan.
02:38SPEAKERThis is like, there's a bunch of like blinds
02:41SPEAKERthat you can cut to your own length here
02:43SPEAKERand some screen doors.
02:44SPEAKERThis isn't, this clearly is not the,
02:46SPEAKERmaybe it's a ventilation section,
02:48SPEAKERbut it's not where the fans go.
02:50SPEAKERSo then I like looked around for an associate
02:52SPEAKERand the associates in,
02:54SPEAKER'cause it's also in the refrigerator section
02:55SPEAKERare always insanely busy there
02:57SPEAKER'cause people like to talk to somebody
02:59SPEAKERwhen they buy a fridge.
03:00SPEAKERAnd after waiting about 20 minutes,
03:02SPEAKERI talked to the guy and I was like,
03:04SPEAKERhey, do you know where these fans are?
03:05SPEAKERHe's like, oh, what does the app say?
03:07SPEAKERAnd I said, it says see associate.
03:09SPEAKERHe said, well, does it say where it is in the store?
03:13SPEAKERAnd I was like, yeah, it says it's in aisle 41,
03:15SPEAKERbut I looked there and there's nothing in aisle 41.
03:16SPEAKERHe's like, yeah, if it's not in aisle 41,
03:18SPEAKERI have no idea where it is.
03:19SPEAKERIt's basically gone.
03:20SPEAKER- Cool.
03:21SPEAKERSo humans and software are equally capable
03:24SPEAKERof passing the buck to each other is what you're saying.
03:27SPEAKER- Here's the thing.
03:29SPEAKERI'm not upset with the guy 'cause he was apologetic.
03:31SPEAKERHe was like, I'm sorry, this sucks.
03:32SPEAKERBut like your,
03:33SPEAKERthe app ties into the same inventory system we have.
03:36SPEAKER- So it's probably all the data he has to work with.
03:39SPEAKER- Yeah, he's like, there are probably 23 of these
03:41SPEAKERin the store somewhere, but God only knows where
03:42SPEAKERand we'll find it the next time we do inventory, maybe.
03:45SPEAKER- Hey, don't you like to combine your retail experience
03:48SPEAKERwith a scavenger hunt?
03:49SPEAKER- Oh God, not like,
03:51SPEAKERHome Depot, having done a couple of big
03:53SPEAKERhome renovation projects that involved me going
03:55SPEAKERto Home Depot or Lowe's every day,
03:57SPEAKERif I never set foot in a Home Depot again, I'll be fine.
04:01SPEAKERSo then he's like, but look,
04:03SPEAKERthere's another Home Depot like a mile and a half away.
04:06SPEAKERYou want to see if they have it?
04:07SPEAKERAnd I was like, yeah, let's look.
04:08SPEAKERSo we looked on that.
04:09SPEAKERI looked on the app, he looked on his computer.
04:11SPEAKERThe app was finished first.
04:13SPEAKERAnd I was like, it doesn't tell me where it is
04:15SPEAKERin the store on the app.
04:15SPEAKERHe's like, yeah, the only way you could do that
04:16SPEAKERis if you're in the actual store.
04:18SPEAKERIt's like, okay, great.
04:21SPEAKERSo I piled in the car.
04:23SPEAKERI drove over to the other Home Depot.
04:25SPEAKERI got in, it pops up.
04:27SPEAKERIt's like, it's in aisle 41, bin seven.
04:30SPEAKERTold me exactly where it was.
04:31SPEAKERIt's a fantastic experience.
04:33SPEAKERSo Home Depot's bad in 500 is what I'm saying.
04:36SPEAKER(upbeat music)
04:51SPEAKER(upbeat music continues)
05:05SPEAKER- Welcome to Brad and Will Made a Tech Pod.
05:07SPEAKERI'm Will.
05:08SPEAKER- I'm Brad.
05:09SPEAKER- Hello.
05:10SPEAKER- Are you cool?
05:10SPEAKERAre you enjoying your ventilation, your circulation rather?
05:13SPEAKER- So by the time I got home, I set the fan up
05:16SPEAKERand I was like, fuck it.
05:17SPEAKERI'm going to hook up the air conditioner anyway.
05:19SPEAKERCause it's too, it's too hot.
05:20SPEAKERIt was like the walls were warm.
05:23SPEAKER- So the walls were sweating.
05:24SPEAKER- Yeah, the walls, the walls were warm.
05:25SPEAKERSo I set that, I put the fan in the kitchen window,
05:27SPEAKERset it to exhaust, opened the windows in the bedroom
05:30SPEAKERand turned on the AC in the office
05:34SPEAKERand then turned the whole house fan on.
05:37SPEAKERAnd it got pretty cool.
05:38SPEAKERBy the time we went to bed, it was, it was okay.
05:40SPEAKERSo.
05:41SPEAKER- I just, I have one question for you.
05:43SPEAKER- Yes, hello.
05:43SPEAKER- And this, this is not a bone to pick.
05:45SPEAKERI'm just going to ask the question.
05:47SPEAKERVornado?
05:49SPEAKER- Vornado?
05:50SPEAKER- Vornado?
05:52SPEAKER- I assumed it was like a tornado.
05:54SPEAKER- You say Vornado, I say Vornado.
05:56SPEAKERWhat is a tornot?
05:57SPEAKERDo you mean a tornado?
05:58SPEAKER- No, a tornado is a type of car.
06:00SPEAKER- Isn't that, is that not a toronado?
06:02SPEAKER- Toronado, maybe.
06:04SPEAKER- Oh, I'm sorry.
06:05SPEAKERI brought this up.
06:06SPEAKER- Oh no, now it's happening again.
06:08SPEAKER- Your worst nightmare.
06:10SPEAKER- This is the, look, a lot of words you see.
06:13SPEAKERI've never heard anybody say vornado before.
06:15SPEAKER- That's not a word.
06:17SPEAKERThat's not a word.
06:18SPEAKER- Toronado?
06:19SPEAKERA toronado?
06:21SPEAKER- Toronado, I don't know.
06:22SPEAKERMy grandfather had a toronado when I was a kid.
06:25SPEAKERThey always said toronado.
06:26SPEAKER- Okay, I know what a tornado is.
06:28SPEAKERI can tell you that.
06:29SPEAKER- A toronado, it was a big car.
06:31SPEAKERIt was wide.
06:32SPEAKERYou could put four people across the backseat, no problem.
06:35SPEAKER- A tornado is also an air circulator.
06:37SPEAKER- That's true, that's true.
06:39SPEAKERI don't want one in my house though, if I can help.
06:41SPEAKER- Probably not.
06:42SPEAKERWhat about a minute?
06:43SPEAKERWhat if science could create a tiny miniature tornado
06:45SPEAKERthat went around your room?
06:47SPEAKERI mean, do you know about the whole house fan thing?
06:50SPEAKER- No.
06:51SPEAKER- So, for like 800 bucks a grand,
06:55SPEAKERyou cut a hole in your house in the roof
06:57SPEAKERand you put a really high CFM fan in it,
07:00SPEAKERlike a thousand cubic foot per minute or something,
07:03SPEAKERlike something that's basically like a tornado.
07:06SPEAKERAnd what you do is you crack your windows
07:09SPEAKERin each of the rooms, it's hot, and you flip that on.
07:12SPEAKERThe idea is it sucks all of the air out of your house
07:14SPEAKERin like five minutes.
07:15SPEAKER- Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, it's not quite that crazy,
07:17SPEAKERbut my parents have an exhaust fan in the roof here
07:20SPEAKERor in the ceiling here.
07:21SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.
07:22SPEAKER- Kind of like that.
07:23SPEAKER- And it's great for places where like where we live,
07:26SPEAKERwhere it gets very warm one or two weeks a year,
07:31SPEAKERbut the rest of the time it's very temperate outside.
07:33SPEAKERAnd even at nighttime, it's usually pretty okay.
07:35SPEAKER- Yeah, it's also great for areas like here,
07:38SPEAKERwhich get much warmer still and much more humid.
07:41SPEAKERBut let's say the head of the house has opinions
07:44SPEAKERabout how much the air conditioning should run.
07:47SPEAKER- Are you wearing tank tops and stuff down there?
07:48SPEAKERIs it that kind of sitch?
07:50SPEAKER- Those opinions are minimal, I'd say.
07:52SPEAKER- Yeah, we had a similar situation in my parents' house,
07:56SPEAKERbut unfortunately they put us in the bedroom
07:58SPEAKERwith the thermostat upstairs.
07:59SPEAKER- Oh good.
08:00SPEAKER- So we just made some adjustments.
08:03SPEAKER'Cause like Gina and I, like I have a hard time sleeping
08:06SPEAKERif it's not relatively cool after living on the coast
08:09SPEAKERfor 20 years, it turns out.
08:11SPEAKER- Sleeping cold.
08:12SPEAKER- I like to sleep cold.
08:13SPEAKERI like it.
08:14SPEAKER- We've established it's the best.
08:15SPEAKER- I like a great big down comforter in a really cold room.
08:18SPEAKER- Okay, okay, we're definitely not doing this again.
08:20SPEAKER- Fluffy comforter. - But you know what we are
08:21SPEAKERgoing to do again?
08:23SPEAKER- We're gonna turn Q's into A's, Brad?
08:25SPEAKER- That's right.
08:25SPEAKER- It is time. - It's time.
08:27SPEAKERIt is the most magical time of the month.
08:29SPEAKER- It's the last week of the month.
08:31SPEAKERI can't believe August has left us already.
08:32SPEAKERThis is amazing.
08:34SPEAKER- Yes, it's wild.
08:35SPEAKERTime, how does it work?
08:37SPEAKER- Well, it goes faster the older you get.
08:39SPEAKER- Mm-hmm, no, that's time dilation.
08:42SPEAKER- Yeah.
08:44SPEAKER- All right, so shall we dive right into it?
08:45SPEAKER- Well, I mean, I think we have to tell people
08:46SPEAKERhow to send these in.
08:47SPEAKERIf you are a listener on your radio or your Spotify's,
08:52SPEAKERwhatever, wherever you happen to be,
08:53SPEAKERyou can go to techpod@content.town.
08:56SPEAKERThat is techpod@content.town.
08:58SPEAKERSend us an electronic mail, a missive over the wires.
09:02SPEAKERAnd we may or may not turn that into an A.
09:06SPEAKERWe don't get as many of those as we get
09:08SPEAKERinto the Discord channel, Q's Seeking A's,
09:11SPEAKERwhere anyone can jump in and submit a question,
09:13SPEAKERthey disappear into the void momentarily,
09:14SPEAKERand we go to pull down a list
09:17SPEAKERof people's seemingly offhand thoughts,
09:20SPEAKERtheir considerations in the wee hours of the morning,
09:25SPEAKERor at 2.11 in the afternoon.
09:27SPEAKERAnd I wonder, I was looking at the time stamps
09:31SPEAKERon these this month, Brad,
09:33SPEAKERand I wondered if there was any correlation
09:35SPEAKERbetween the seriousness of the question
09:37SPEAKERand the time of day that it was posted,
09:39SPEAKERand it seems like there is not that I can tell, so.
09:42SPEAKER- That sounds like that's prime graph material.
09:44SPEAKER- Yeah, I should make a graph.
09:46SPEAKER- Graphs are cool.
09:48SPEAKER- What's our first Q, Brad?
09:49SPEAKER- You know what else is cool is all of these questions,
09:51SPEAKER'cause we got a lot of good ones.
09:53SPEAKER- Yeah, it was a good crop.
09:55SPEAKERNice work, everyone.
09:56SPEAKER- Yes, I'm gonna dive into the Discord Q's first.
09:58SPEAKERWe'll do emails at the end this month.
10:02SPEAKERMillhouse Phoenix writes in,
10:04SPEAKER"What do you do with all the tools
10:05SPEAKER"that come with various pieces of technology,
10:07SPEAKER"furniture, et cetera, that you purchase?
10:09SPEAKER"Do you keep them with the product,
10:10SPEAKER"store them all in one place, or ditch them?"
10:12SPEAKER- Trash or recycle?
10:14SPEAKER- Ah, no, never.
10:16SPEAKER- I have a really nice set of Allen wrenches
10:17SPEAKERand Star wrenches.
10:18SPEAKERI don't need to keep any of that stuff.
10:19SPEAKER- Yeah, that's fair.
10:21SPEAKERI just, I always worry there's gonna be some part in there
10:23SPEAKERthat's bespoke that I might need someday, but I never do.
10:25SPEAKER- It's just garbage. - Never do.
10:26SPEAKER- Throw it out.
10:28SPEAKER- I've got, do you have a junk drawer?
10:30SPEAKEREverybody's got a junk drawer.
10:31SPEAKER- Yeah, it has a bunch of rechargeable batteries in it,
10:33SPEAKERmostly.
10:33SPEAKER- Okay.
10:35SPEAKERI do baggy stuff.
10:36SPEAKERI do like to just get like a Ziploc
10:39SPEAKERand bag up stuff that came with the thing
10:41SPEAKERthat I didn't use, but surely will someday.
10:43SPEAKER- I'm shaking my head.
10:45SPEAKERThe secret of the junk drawer is to get those little trays.
10:48SPEAKERSo you get a, you go to IP or something,
10:50SPEAKERand the hardware stores have them.
10:52SPEAKERYou get trays you can put in a grid,
10:53SPEAKERand then they all go in in the right way.
10:56SPEAKERBut I only get trays for about half the drawer,
10:58SPEAKERand then the rest is just a mash.
11:00SPEAKERI have probably 25 different kinds of regular,
11:07SPEAKERof different sized button cell batteries,
11:10SPEAKER'cause all the internet of shit stuff in the house,
11:13SPEAKERlike the window sensors and the door sensors
11:15SPEAKERand all that stuff uses weird cell batteries.
11:18SPEAKERSo I have stacks and stacks and stacks of them.
11:21SPEAKER- Do you mean like watch batteries?
11:23SPEAKER- 2492s, yeah, watch batteries.
11:25SPEAKER- CR2032, stuff like that.
11:27SPEAKER- Yeah, there's the thick ones, there's thin ones,
11:29SPEAKERthere's small fat ones, there's small skinny ones.
11:32SPEAKERThere's a bunch of them.
11:34SPEAKER- I defeated myself recently when I had to go,
11:37SPEAKERI went and bought a whole six pack of those things,
11:40SPEAKER'cause I thought we needed some,
11:41SPEAKERand then immediately found another package
11:42SPEAKERof unopened ones in the drawers, as soon as I got them out.
11:45SPEAKER- I've literally had that happen where I got the package,
11:47SPEAKERI put the battery in, I went to put the package
11:49SPEAKERwhere it goes, and I was like,
11:50SPEAKERwell, here's another pack of them.
11:52SPEAKER- Now we have eight more, that digital kitchen scale
11:55SPEAKERwe've got is going to work for the next 40 years.
11:58SPEAKER- I hear, my kitchen scale is rechargeable.
12:01SPEAKERIt's got a USB port.
12:03SPEAKER- Maybe it's time to upgrade.
12:04SPEAKER- Actually, I mean, it's kind of annoying,
12:06SPEAKER'cause I mean, since there's usually a kitchen scale,
12:08SPEAKERhang on, I have a USB dongle on my kitchen counter,
12:12SPEAKERwhich sucks, anyway.
12:13SPEAKER- Yes.
12:15SPEAKEROkay, how about,
12:18SPEAKERokay, you suggested I read this one, I hadn't planned to,
12:22SPEAKERbut then you bolded it, which I think we've been over this.
12:27SPEAKEROur Google Docs language is that you bold things
12:29SPEAKERyou want to read.
12:30SPEAKER- Yeah, and you highlight things you want to read.
12:32SPEAKERI highlight in yellow.
12:34SPEAKER- I highlighted that 'cause I just bolded it just now,
12:36SPEAKER'cause I meant to bold it at the beginning and I forgot.
12:38SPEAKERThat's why it was highlighted just now,
12:39SPEAKERbut you can read it, it's fine.
12:42SPEAKER- You said you wanted to know a question from Warbird.
12:44SPEAKERHas Brad gotten used to the notch on his MacBook yet,
12:46SPEAKERor is he still using that tool to black out the toolbar
12:48SPEAKERat the top like a coward?
12:49SPEAKER- I'm going to put my money on coward.
12:52SPEAKER- Top notch all the way, man.
12:53SPEAKER- Really?
12:54SPEAKER- I don't even know what's there.
12:55SPEAKERWhat is it hurting?
12:58SPEAKERHow is my life significantly materially altered
13:01SPEAKERby continuing to use that tool?
13:03SPEAKER- Oh, oh, okay, yes.
13:04SPEAKERYou're getting rid.
13:05SPEAKERI thought when you said top notch all the way
13:07SPEAKERthat you had embraced the notch and you had-
13:09SPEAKER- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
13:10SPEAKERTop notch is the name of the app.
13:12SPEAKERAll it does, like quite literally, I looked,
13:14SPEAKERall it is doing is generating,
13:15SPEAKERit's taking your desktop wallpaper
13:17SPEAKERand generating a new image with a black strip at the top.
13:21SPEAKER- But isn't there stuff up there?
13:24SPEAKER- Yeah.
13:25SPEAKER- Oh, so the stuff is still up there.
13:26SPEAKER- Yeah, that's not affected.
13:28SPEAKERI mean, Mac OS adjusts.
13:30SPEAKERLike, you know, the traditional,
13:31SPEAKERlike a light colored menu bar in Mac OS,
13:33SPEAKERit would make all the text and icons black, like tray icons.
13:36SPEAKER- Oh, I thought you were literally carving off
13:38SPEAKERlike the top 20 pixels of your screen and not using them.
13:40SPEAKER- Oh, oh, all it does is make the part,
13:43SPEAKER'cause they default to transparent everything now.
13:45SPEAKERI don't know if you have used a Mac.
13:46SPEAKER- I haven't used a Mac in a long time.
13:48SPEAKER- In a while.
13:49SPEAKERYeah, out of the box, they have got transparency turned on
13:51SPEAKERfor everything in the UI, which is also not great.
13:54SPEAKER- I love that.
13:55SPEAKER- Of course you can disable that,
13:56SPEAKERbut all it's doing is just saying,
13:58SPEAKER"Hey, this exact area where the menu bar is is now black."
14:01SPEAKERAnd so then it turns all the menu text
14:03SPEAKERand tray icons and clock and everything white,
14:05SPEAKERand you can't even see the notch anymore.
14:07SPEAKER- I miss the transparency in Windows.
14:10SPEAKER- Wait, does 11 not have it?
14:12SPEAKER- 11 doesn't do transparency by default.
14:14SPEAKERI think you can turn it on, but it's by default,
14:15SPEAKERit's off probably.
14:16SPEAKER- What, God, we should, well, I don't know about should.
14:21SPEAKERI started to say we should do a thing,
14:22SPEAKERbut maybe I'm the only one who would ever care about this.
14:24SPEAKERI was gonna say we should chronicle all the dumb names
14:27SPEAKERfor Windows Chrome, like Windows UI.
14:29SPEAKER- Arrow.
14:30SPEAKER- Flourishes, Arrow is the one I always think of.
14:32SPEAKER- Arrow is the classic one.
14:33SPEAKER- Is Arrow Vista?
14:35SPEAKER- Arrow is Vista.
14:36SPEAKERArrow is when they've replaced GDI the first time.
14:39SPEAKER- Okay, Arrow is the glassy one, right?
14:42SPEAKER- Yeah, it's the one that looked like frosted glass.
14:44SPEAKER- And then there's the Windows 10 Arrow one,
14:46SPEAKERwhich is acrylic?
14:48SPEAKER- I don't think there's, I don't think it's,
14:52SPEAKERno, it's not acrylic.
14:53SPEAKER- Would you bet money on it?
14:55SPEAKER- No.
14:56SPEAKER- You would not?
14:57SPEAKER- No.
14:58SPEAKER- Because it is in fact acrylic.
15:00SPEAKER- Really, that's a stupid name.
15:01SPEAKER- Yeah, yes, the Windows 10 era transparency stuff
15:04SPEAKERwas acrylic material, I think.
15:07SPEAKERAnyway, ask us anything about operating system UI elements.
15:13SPEAKER- I don't know, I, yeah, I, it's weird,
15:17SPEAKER'cause once it, when, during the time
15:19SPEAKERthat the windows were transparent,
15:21SPEAKERthe, everybody, everything was happening in the browser,
15:24SPEAKERand the browser, that's when Chrome moved the tabs
15:26SPEAKERup above the bar, so there, like,
15:28SPEAKERthere was less window Chrome on the windows
15:30SPEAKERyou were using all the time than ever before,
15:33SPEAKERso you didn't really, we didn't,
15:35SPEAKERwe never really lived in a transparent age, Brad,
15:37SPEAKERthat's what I'm saying.
15:38SPEAKER- Yeah, I'm with you.
15:40SPEAKERWindows should be opaque.
15:41SPEAKERThat's my, that's my one old man opinion.
15:45SPEAKERThe only one.
15:46SPEAKER- Yeah.
15:47SPEAKER- I like transparent windows, I don't,
15:49SPEAKERI don't have a feel, I don't,
15:50SPEAKERI don't have strong feelings either way, though.
15:52SPEAKER- Honestly, it's mostly a holdover
15:53SPEAKERfrom when that, like, tangibly slowed down the computer.
15:56SPEAKER- Yeah, we're probably fine now.
15:57SPEAKER- Yeah, I think we're probably past that.
15:59SPEAKERSeabird Song has a question for me.
16:03SPEAKERWhen unpacking and setting up the LG OLED,
16:05SPEAKERdid the thickness of the panel alarm you?
16:07SPEAKERIt's very impressive that it can be this thin,
16:09SPEAKERbut I almost wish it was a little thicker and sturdier,
16:10SPEAKERbecause every time I had to move mine,
16:12SPEAKERI was terrified it would snap in half, yes.
16:14SPEAKER- They're super scary.
16:15SPEAKER- That was unnerving, it's very thin.
16:18SPEAKERThey're very clear, don't lay it, like,
16:19SPEAKERwhen it's in shipping or you're bringing it home,
16:21SPEAKERdon't lay the box down flat, it needs to stay upright.
16:24SPEAKERLike they show on the box, don't even tilt it,
16:27SPEAKERpresumably because the screen can't support its own weight.
16:31SPEAKERThe crazy thing, though, is when you get it home,
16:34SPEAKERthis is LG, I can't speak for Samsung or Sony OLEDs,
16:37SPEAKERyou have to attach the base,
16:38SPEAKERand the only realistic way to do that,
16:40SPEAKERand we literally had to look up the video
16:41SPEAKERon LG's support YouTube channel to confirm this,
16:44SPEAKERis to lay the panel down flat on a table.
16:47SPEAKER- The thing that it tells you not to do?
16:49SPEAKER- Yes, well, I think once it's out of the box,
16:50SPEAKERmaybe it's okay, it's bizarre,
16:52SPEAKERand so they tell you to lay the panel down,
16:55SPEAKERface down, flat on a table, to screw,
16:58SPEAKERthe stand is quite heavy and it doesn't,
17:00SPEAKERthe panel does not slot into the stand,
17:02SPEAKERit only is held on by screws, essentially, and so-
17:04SPEAKER- So you have to screw it up from the bottom like a PS5?
17:07SPEAKER- Yeah, kinda, yes.
17:08SPEAKERSo you lay the panel down, according to their videos,
17:10SPEAKERyou lay the panel down, you just screw the base on,
17:13SPEAKERblah, blah, blah, here's the crazy thing, though,
17:14SPEAKERthey show it themselves, LG employees in this video,
17:18SPEAKERwhen they're done screwing this relatively heavy stand
17:20SPEAKERonto this panel, they pick it up
17:22SPEAKERand set it up upright by the panel,
17:24SPEAKERthey don't even touch the stand,
17:26SPEAKERthese two employees literally grab the corners
17:29SPEAKERof just the OLED panel and pick the entire TV up by them
17:32SPEAKERand set it up right, it's bizarre.
17:34SPEAKER- It's shocking to me that it's dainty enough
17:37SPEAKERthat that seems like a dangerous thing to do.
17:39SPEAKER- Yeah, and it's got some flex to it,
17:41SPEAKERwhen we were, I was like, okay,
17:42SPEAKERwhatever you say, support channel,
17:44SPEAKERand so we picked it up and it's got flex to it,
17:47SPEAKERthe panel is a little wobbly,
17:49SPEAKERa little wiggly when you pick it up like that.
17:51SPEAKER- How much does this whole thing weigh?
17:53SPEAKER- I don't know, that's a good question,
17:54SPEAKERmost of the weight is in the stand, I would say.
17:56SPEAKER- Yeah, so if you wall-mounted it,
17:58SPEAKERyou just put it on the VESA mount and call it a day, right?
18:00SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah, you would just not use the stand at all.
18:04SPEAKERYeah, it was a bit unnerving, but it seems to have worked.
18:08SPEAKERNow, there's a, did I mention this last week,
18:11SPEAKERthere's a firmware bug where it just keeps
18:13SPEAKERshutting itself off randomly?
18:14SPEAKER- You said that when you're playing Xbox games or something.
18:16SPEAKER- It seems quite widespread,
18:18SPEAKERand it seems to have just started
18:19SPEAKERin the last six months or so,
18:20SPEAKER'cause that's where I see all the posts pop up
18:22SPEAKERfrom people saying, hey, after update, blah.
18:25SPEAKERIt's just turning itself off now, and I was like, cool.
18:27SPEAKER- Just what I want is to update my TV
18:29SPEAKERand have it stop working.
18:30SPEAKER- TVs with firmware bugs that may or may not ever get fixed,
18:33SPEAKERthat's cool. - I don't like that.
18:34SPEAKER- That's good stuff, that is good stuff.
18:38SPEAKERHere's a question for you from Infelicitous Rips.
18:42SPEAKERI have been wondering for ages now
18:44SPEAKERhow Patreon shout-outs get sorted.
18:46SPEAKERIs it linked with patronage,
18:49SPEAKERsomething to do with the Patreon backend,
18:52SPEAKERand unsorted dot text on Will's desktop?
18:55SPEAKER- So it is to do with the Patreon backend.
18:59SPEAKEROn the Patreon, like if you have a Patreon,
19:03SPEAKERyou have a page that lets you see everybody
19:04SPEAKERthat's subscribed to your business,
19:07SPEAKERand you can filter it by tier.
19:08SPEAKERSo on the monthly episodes, I filter by tier,
19:12SPEAKERand then it's just whatever the default sorting is.
19:15SPEAKEROh yeah, sorry, in the weekly episodes,
19:16SPEAKERthe ones that are just executive producer tier patrons.
19:19SPEAKEROn the monthly episode that's everybody,
19:21SPEAKERI add both executive producer tier
19:24SPEAKERand associate producer tier patrons,
19:27SPEAKERand then I sort by the tier
19:29SPEAKERso that I get all the executive producer people together
19:31SPEAKERand all the associate producer people together.
19:33SPEAKERAnd I think that maybe does it alphabetically,
19:35SPEAKERbut I'm not sure.
19:38SPEAKER- The Patreon backend is a mysterious place
19:41SPEAKERfull of wonder and danger.
19:43SPEAKER- It is, it is, it is weird.
19:46SPEAKERIt is a weird, like, the thing about all backends
19:50SPEAKERthat are not normal human facing is that they're slow.
19:53SPEAKEREvery, all of them, like Steam, Xbox, the Patreon thing,
19:58SPEAKERthe, our podcast upload,
20:00SPEAKERactually, I think our podcast upload interface
20:02SPEAKERis probably the fastest
20:03SPEAKERof all of the non-consumer facing things.
20:05SPEAKERAnd I guess that's because that the company
20:07SPEAKERthat makes that business is hosting podcasts for people.
20:10SPEAKERSo we are the consumer facing for that.
20:13SPEAKER- Yeah.
20:14SPEAKER- Yeah, Simplecast is our podcast host
20:16SPEAKERand I generally like working with their tools fairly well.
20:20SPEAKER- If you want to do a podcast, I would endorse Simplehost.
20:22SPEAKERI'd say they're a little more expensive,
20:24SPEAKERbut they're pretty good.
20:26SPEAKER- Yeah, they're not bad.
20:29SPEAKERQuestion from Jay Krauska here.
20:31SPEAKERYou bolded this, I didn't have a good answer for this,
20:34SPEAKERbut I hope you do.
20:35SPEAKERLet's say I have a collection of ripped media
20:37SPEAKERand that a buddy of mine also has a collection
20:39SPEAKERof ripped media and we want to combine forces
20:41SPEAKERand make an even greater collection of ripped media.
20:43SPEAKERWhat tools or mechanisms exist to help make this happen?
20:47SPEAKER- Well, there's this thing called the internet.
20:50SPEAKERSo back in the day, in a period of time in the,
20:54SPEAKERlet's say mid 2000s, like 2005, probably,
20:57SPEAKERa friend of mine invited me to a party where he was like,
21:00SPEAKER"Do you have an external hard drive?"
21:01SPEAKERAnd I said, "Yeah."
21:02SPEAKERAnd he said, "Do you have MP3s, right?"
21:03SPEAKERAnd I said, "Yeah."
21:04SPEAKERAnd he said, "And you've ripped them all yourself.
21:06SPEAKERThey're not like shitty ones you downloaded from Napster."
21:08SPEAKERHe's like, "Yeah, I did, ripped them all myself."
21:09SPEAKERHe's like, "Load up all your MP3s
21:11SPEAKERon this external hard drive,
21:12SPEAKERbring it to my house on Saturday,
21:13SPEAKERand there's gonna be a bunch of people there."
21:16SPEAKERAnd the statute of limitations
21:20SPEAKERprobably expired at this point.
21:21SPEAKERSo we all sat down and plugged in
21:25SPEAKERto a couple of computers there,
21:27SPEAKERand everybody swapped all of their MP3s
21:30SPEAKERinto subfolders on everybody else's external hard drives.
21:34SPEAKERAnd it worked really well.
21:34SPEAKERI didn't actually end up adding most of the MP3s
21:38SPEAKERthat I got through that method through to my collection
21:41SPEAKERbecause look, MP3 tagging, MP3 ripping,
21:46SPEAKERit's all like, I was an EAC guy.
21:48SPEAKERI was ripping with error correction on.
21:50SPEAKERI wanted to make sure I didn't have any weird glitches,
21:53SPEAKERyou know, the whole thing.
21:54SPEAKER- You wanted the log file with every rip.
21:55SPEAKER- Yeah, like I wanted to know what was there,
21:57SPEAKERand I would usually do MP3s in flax at the same time, right?
22:01SPEAKERWhich took time.
22:04SPEAKERBut I did pull a handful.
22:07SPEAKERThere was people who had some good bootlegs
22:09SPEAKERand stuff like that.
22:10SPEAKERThere were some bands that I'd never heard of before.
22:14SPEAKERFor a long time, I set it up as just a way
22:16SPEAKERthat I could play some random music,
22:20SPEAKERand it would use one of the Pandora type things
22:23SPEAKERto generate a bunch of like, vibe lists, basically.
22:28SPEAKERBut I think that, so depending on how you wanna go about it,
22:33SPEAKERthat's probably, that's a good place to start,
22:36SPEAKERlike putting your stuff on a drive
22:38SPEAKERand going to somebody's house, right?
22:41SPEAKERIf you don't wanna do that, you can use,
22:43SPEAKERlike Plex has the ability to share media libraries
22:47SPEAKERacross the internet if you open up your Plex
22:49SPEAKERto the outside world.
22:51SPEAKERSo like, I could share a library of music or TV shows
22:55SPEAKERthat I've ripped off of disks or saved from over the air
22:58SPEAKERor whatever to Brad using the power of the internet.
23:03SPEAKERYou can do that with music as well.
23:04SPEAKERPlex lets you set up per library sharing for individuals.
23:08SPEAKERLike for example, I have a bunch of home movies
23:10SPEAKERthat my sister can watch on her TV in Tennessee
23:14SPEAKERthat we've ripped and stuff like that.
23:16SPEAKERSo like, that's probably the best one.
23:20SPEAKERI haven't used the other, the Plex alternatives
23:22SPEAKERat this point.
23:23SPEAKERI think that that's, I think that some of that
23:24SPEAKERis Plex Pass only, so you have to have paid for Plex
23:28SPEAKERin order for some of that to work.
23:30SPEAKER- Okay, I know so Plex is not a solution
23:34SPEAKERI had considered here.
23:37SPEAKERYou could just each assemble your own library
23:39SPEAKERand then share them.
23:40SPEAKERLike in the Plex client,
23:41SPEAKERthen you're picking different libraries,
23:43SPEAKERyou know, it would be like.
23:44SPEAKER- But when you search, it shows you everything
23:47SPEAKERin all the libraries you have access to.
23:49SPEAKER- And in fact, like, you know, they do the same thing
23:51SPEAKERliterally every other content serving platform does
23:53SPEAKERwhere they hash a homepage that just includes content
23:56SPEAKERfrom every library you have shared with you
23:57SPEAKERall in one place.
23:59SPEAKERThat's not the worst idea, actually.
24:00SPEAKERI had been thinking more of the,
24:01SPEAKERalong the literal lines of combine all the files
24:04SPEAKERin one place and et cetera, et cetera.
24:06SPEAKERBut maybe the Plex idea is not the worst.
24:09SPEAKERI've put a fair amount of time into Jellyfin.
24:12SPEAKER- Yeah, how are you finding it?
24:14SPEAKERI haven't spent enough time with it yet to have an opinion.
24:16SPEAKER- Talking about Plex alternatives, it's good,
24:19SPEAKERbut it's still got a long way to go.
24:20SPEAKER- Yeah.
24:21SPEAKER- And some of that is down to the individual apps
24:24SPEAKERon the client end as it is with Plex, you know,
24:25SPEAKERlike depending on what device you're playing to,
24:27SPEAKERyour experience is going to vary a lot, but it's just,
24:30SPEAKERthere are a lot of features that just aren't quite there yet.
24:32SPEAKER- It's a big, like there's a big surface area of stuff
24:35SPEAKERthat people have to interface with, right?
24:36SPEAKERLike there's the server side, which is complicated.
24:40SPEAKERThere's all the transcoding stuff that has to happen,
24:41SPEAKERwhich is complicated.
24:42SPEAKERAnd then there's web clients, PC clients, iOS clients,
24:46SPEAKERAndroid clients, TV clients, Roku clients, like all,
24:49SPEAKERthere's a bazillion different things that have to
24:51SPEAKERall come together and work for like something to be
24:55SPEAKERas good as Plex, and the nice thing about Plex,
24:58SPEAKERdespite its problems, is that, you know,
25:01SPEAKERsomebody who's not an enormous, like I can send,
25:03SPEAKERI set up my parents with an account and they're able
25:05SPEAKERto get in and look at home videos, right?
25:07SPEAKERAnd like, I don't think Jellyfin, when I used it,
25:13SPEAKERwould pass that test.
25:14SPEAKER- So you can, it can do that quite well now.
25:17SPEAKER- Well, you know, I mean, I don't think that they could
25:19SPEAKERfigure out how to navigate the UI consistently,
25:22SPEAKER'cause I found, last time I used it, it was the Apple TV
25:26SPEAKERinterface was pretty rough still.
25:28SPEAKER- Yeah, the apps are not quite there, but they're close.
25:30SPEAKERLike conceptually, everything's laid out pretty much
25:33SPEAKERexactly like a Plex library.
25:34SPEAKERSo like, I think that's probably fine.
25:36SPEAKERAnd like, you know, the biggest advantage is there's no
25:39SPEAKERremote authentication.
25:40SPEAKERYou don't have to go through Plex's servers for people
25:42SPEAKERto register accounts and log in and stuff.
25:44SPEAKERSo you just make them a local account and they can just
25:46SPEAKERsign in and it works.
25:47SPEAKER- But I mean, the authentication thing is one of the,
25:50SPEAKERone of the things that makes it easier, I think,
25:52SPEAKERfor people 'cause they understand how that works.
25:54SPEAKERAnd then you have one Plex account rather than
25:56SPEAKER50 Plex accounts, right?
25:58SPEAKERAnyway, yeah, I would do Plex.
26:01SPEAKERYou can, like Brad said, you can set up the homepage.
26:03SPEAKERSo you have like the new stuff from Brad's server,
26:07SPEAKERthe new stuff from Will's server, the new stuff
26:08SPEAKERfrom Steve's server.
26:10SPEAKER- Yeah, there's been a lot of activity around Jellyfin's
26:13SPEAKERdevelopment, judging by their subreddit and the GitHub
26:16SPEAKERissues and commits and stuff.
26:18SPEAKERLike there seems to be picking up a lot of steam.
26:20SPEAKERSo I'm hopeful that it's going to get where it needs to be.
26:23SPEAKER- Is it open source?
26:24SPEAKER- Yes, it's entirely open.
26:25SPEAKERLike that's the whole selling point is nothing proprietary.
26:28SPEAKERNo.
26:29SPEAKER- We have a podcast that we talk to open source people.
26:32SPEAKERWe should get them on.
26:33SPEAKER- You know, that's actually not the worst idea.
26:35SPEAKERI had not considered that.
26:36SPEAKER- I hadn't thought about that.
26:37SPEAKER- Then I can ask them, hey, why does Jellyfin,
26:39SPEAKERwhen it transcodes, just transcode at the same bit rate
26:42SPEAKERas the source media?
26:42SPEAKER'Cause that doesn't seem sensible.
26:44SPEAKERLike Plex transcodes at a way higher bit rate
26:47SPEAKERthan the original file.
26:48SPEAKERSo there's no generational quality loss.
26:50SPEAKERAnd like, if you have,
26:52SPEAKERif you have a six megabit video and Jellyfin,
26:56SPEAKERand it needs to transcode,
26:57SPEAKERit will transcode a six megabit reproduction of it,
26:59SPEAKERwhich does not seem--
27:00SPEAKER- Probably like H265 to H264, or like--
27:04SPEAKER- Either way, from everything I've seen,
27:06SPEAKERit doesn't matter the codec.
27:07SPEAKERIt'll just take whatever bit rate and do it again,
27:09SPEAKERwhich seems questionable from a quality loss standpoint.
27:13SPEAKER- Non-optimal.
27:14SPEAKER- Can't configure stuff like that.
27:15SPEAKERThat's, that's a low level issue I have with it on top of a
27:18SPEAKERlot of UI stuff.
27:21SPEAKERAnyway, still a good time for hosting your own media,
27:24SPEAKERalways.
27:25SPEAKER- Yeah, especially like if you have a decent upstream,
27:28SPEAKERif you have a hundred megabit upstream,
27:29SPEAKERyou can do high quality sharing across the interwebs.
27:33SPEAKER- Yeah.
27:34SPEAKERFishy J, why do most consumer outdoor security cameras
27:38SPEAKERrequire you to use their own wireless base station
27:40SPEAKERrather than an existing wifi network?
27:43SPEAKER- So there's two questions that are similar to this one.
27:45SPEAKERThere's another one about somebody getting blink cameras
27:50SPEAKERand being--
27:51SPEAKER- I can actually, I can just read that one here too.
27:54SPEAKERBrixie was here, is this one.
27:57SPEAKER"I bought a set of blink cameras during prime day,
27:59SPEAKERjust installed them and found they only record short clips.
28:02SPEAKERI'm very dyslexic and have been trying to read about
28:05SPEAKERhow to fix this and have become very frustrated.
28:08SPEAKERIs there a camera system you would recommend
28:09SPEAKERthat kind of just works?"
28:12SPEAKER- So, okay.
28:13SPEAKERSo the reason everybody uses proprietary,
28:17SPEAKERthe reason wireless cameras use proprietary network
28:22SPEAKERconnections is because they're lower power.
28:24SPEAKERSo if you have a battery powered camera,
28:26SPEAKERit needs to check in every once in a while.
28:29SPEAKERIt can't run the stream full time
28:31SPEAKERwhere you have to charge it every three weeks or so.
28:33SPEAKERAnd people like to charge things twice a year,
28:36SPEAKERmaybe once a year,
28:39SPEAKERwhich is why generally they pair a motion sensor
28:42SPEAKERwith the camera so that the motion sensor triggers
28:45SPEAKERand that turns on the camera and then you catch the,
28:47SPEAKERyou miss maybe the first half second or something,
28:49SPEAKERbut you get the rest of it.
28:52SPEAKERThe solution to avoid this is to get RTMP cameras
28:58SPEAKERthat use like power over ethernet or something like that.
29:01SPEAKERAnd you can run those 24/7 and pipe them into like NAS
29:09SPEAKERor you can save the video on a NAS
29:12SPEAKERand hook it into Home Assistant
29:14SPEAKERor whatever your service of choice is.
29:17SPEAKER- Yeah, Home Assistant will pull.
29:19SPEAKERIt has integrations for cameras.
29:22SPEAKER- For example, you can get,
29:24SPEAKERI bought an Amcrest camera for like 50 bucks,
29:28SPEAKER80 bucks I think, that's a 4K camera
29:32SPEAKERthat has night vision and the whole thing.
29:34SPEAKERAnd it connects directly into Home Assistant.
29:36SPEAKERIf I wanted to save the video,
29:37SPEAKERI could save it to a folder on my NAS.
29:39SPEAKERI don't, but yeah.
29:42SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously sure people know
29:45SPEAKERI'm like the king of DIY and open source type stuff
29:48SPEAKERand I would probably do something like that,
29:49SPEAKERbut I do wonder if like,
29:51SPEAKERif you just want to get a set of cameras
29:53SPEAKERand like some kind of receiver that works,
29:54SPEAKERI wonder if that is a bit fiddly for the average person
29:58SPEAKERwho just wants to install and go.
30:00SPEAKER- So if you want something that installs and goes,
30:03SPEAKERI generally recommend the not buying cameras
30:07SPEAKERfrom vendors you've never heard of before.
30:11SPEAKERI have like Nest cameras.
30:13SPEAKERI've had Nest cameras that are pretty good.
30:15SPEAKER- Sure, are there any security concerns there
30:18SPEAKERwith stuff that, for no-name brands?
30:21SPEAKER- Yeah, that's why you don't buy no-name brands
30:23SPEAKERis 'cause if you're buying a no-name brand
30:26SPEAKERand it goes to somebody's server,
30:27SPEAKERthen you're assuming that everywhere in that chain
30:29SPEAKERhas good security and they've consistently proven
30:33SPEAKERthat they do not.
30:35SPEAKERSo like anytime you're connecting to a service,
30:38SPEAKERI want the service to be run by somebody who I trust
30:40SPEAKERto follow their privacy policy
30:42SPEAKERand to have best security practices and stuff like that.
30:45SPEAKERSo like I wouldn't buy a Ring camera
30:47SPEAKERbecause Amazon sucks, right?
30:51SPEAKERThe Google has been pretty good about this over the years
30:54SPEAKERand hasn't had a whole lot of problems
30:56SPEAKERand when they've had problems, they've fixed them.
30:58SPEAKERThe Nest cameras will upload video 24/7 for the most part.
31:01SPEAKERI think there's a couple of battery only ones
31:03SPEAKERthat are motion activated that do the same thing
31:06SPEAKERthat the Blink camera does.
31:08SPEAKERBut the video quality is good and you get like,
31:10SPEAKERmy parents have a Nest camera at their house
31:14SPEAKERand they get a notification when somebody leaves a package
31:17SPEAKERand it does a relatively low bit rate video stream
31:22SPEAKERthat's pretty high quality and it lets them know
31:25SPEAKERwhen a car drives by, it lets them know
31:27SPEAKERyou get a notification when there's an animal
31:28SPEAKERin the front yard, it detects packages
31:31SPEAKERand it recognizes faces, which is creepy but kind of useful
31:35SPEAKERwhen you're not at a house all the time.
31:38SPEAKER- Dude, speaking of animals in yards, holy crap.
31:41SPEAKER- You got bears?
31:42SPEAKER- There are so, no, my uncle does, but boy.
31:45SPEAKERLike, I don't know what's going on.
31:47SPEAKERThere are so many more animals around here,
31:49SPEAKERlike visibly in yards coming up to houses
31:51SPEAKERand stuff than there were 20, 30 years ago.
31:53SPEAKER- Is it because people have cameras
31:54SPEAKERand you're seeing the videos of them now?
31:56SPEAKER- Oh, no, no.
31:57SPEAKERIt's like I'm looking out the window and seeing them.
31:59SPEAKERLike there are tons of deer around here
32:00SPEAKERand there were never deer growing up.
32:02SPEAKERI think it might be overpopulation in that case.
32:04SPEAKER- Yeah, deer went up and down over the years for us
32:07SPEAKERwhen I was a kid because like some years
32:09SPEAKERthere'd be like 30 deer in the backyard
32:10SPEAKERand then famine the next year.
32:13SPEAKER- Yes, my first thought was like maybe they're being
32:15SPEAKERdisplaced by climate or like housing developments or both,
32:18SPEAKERbut I think in that case, it might just be more deer
32:20SPEAKERthan there used to be.
32:22SPEAKER- I mean, we see coyotes in the street
32:24SPEAKERand hear mountain lions in a way that we didn't
32:26SPEAKER10 years ago where we live.
32:28SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, there are two hawks
32:29SPEAKERthat have taken up residence behind my apartment
32:31SPEAKERin the middle of San Francisco recently.
32:33SPEAKER- That's cool.
32:34SPEAKER- That's interesting.
32:36SPEAKERThere are some interesting sounds that are generated
32:38SPEAKERby that arrangement.
32:39SPEAKER- Don't take the pigs for a walk, Brad.
32:41SPEAKER- No, definitely not.
32:43SPEAKERBut yeah, like out the back window here,
32:45SPEAKERit's like minor Bambi here.
32:49SPEAKERThere's like squirrels and chipmunks and birds
32:51SPEAKERflitting to and fro everywhere around the feeders and stuff.
32:54SPEAKERBut yes, we stopped by my uncle's place
32:56SPEAKERup on the mountain last night.
32:58SPEAKER- Yeah.
32:59SPEAKER- Showed us multiple pictures of bears on his deck outside,
33:03SPEAKERlike literally right outside his window.
33:05SPEAKER- Yeah, I honestly, I think some of that
33:07SPEAKERit's got to be that everybody has a camera in their pocket.
33:09SPEAKERSo like the things that we just saw
33:10SPEAKERbefore we now can take a picture of.
33:12SPEAKER- Right, sure, but I mean, this is,
33:13SPEAKERhe's literally up in the middle of nowhere on the mountain.
33:16SPEAKERAnd this is, these are black bears like outside his door.
33:20SPEAKERI mean, that's not that common.
33:22SPEAKER- Like I saw, I think I saw bears once
33:24SPEAKERwhen I was backpacking, but it was unusual to see them
33:26SPEAKERwhere there were people outside of like Gallenberg
33:28SPEAKERand stuff like that, where they'd become trash fiends.
33:31SPEAKER- Yes, trash fiends indeed.
33:34SPEAKER- Does your uncle have to have like special garbage cans now?
33:37SPEAKER- I don't know, actually.
33:38SPEAKERI didn't think I'd ask him about that.
33:40SPEAKERHe did, he had an encounter with like the,
33:42SPEAKERsome of them are like, you know, some smaller bears,
33:44SPEAKERlike less of a threat, but he said at one point,
33:46SPEAKERhe's a large man.
33:48SPEAKERAnd at one point there was a bear right outside
33:51SPEAKERon the deck that is bigger than him.
33:52SPEAKER- Yeah.
33:53SPEAKER- And the dogs got out there
33:54SPEAKERand it was real bad for about a seconds.
33:58SPEAKERBut anyway, they escaped.
34:00SPEAKER- Bears are bad.
34:01SPEAKER- Yeah, I mean, bears are fine.
34:03SPEAKERThey just, you need to respect the bears.
34:06SPEAKER- Look, the teddy bear wildly misrepresents the lethality
34:10SPEAKERof your average, well, black bears are relatively chill,
34:14SPEAKERbut most of the other North American bears are bad news.
34:18SPEAKER- Brown bears are the really rough ones, right?
34:20SPEAKER- Brown bears and grizzlies and Kodiaks are all bad.
34:22SPEAKER- Right, right, yes, okay.
34:25SPEAKER- And I think two of those are maybe the same kind of bear,
34:26SPEAKERbut I don't know, I'm not a bear expert.
34:29SPEAKER- Bears are kind of cool.
34:31SPEAKER- Look, man, they're omnivores, I get it.
34:33SPEAKERI'm down with the bears, I got no beef with the bears.
34:36SPEAKER- Bear, the bear, the bear is an interesting animal
34:38SPEAKERnow that I have, so you're thinking about it.
34:40SPEAKER- Yeah.
34:41SPEAKER- All right, unimaginative pseudonym.
34:46SPEAKERHave either Brad or Will read "Showstopper,
34:49SPEAKERthe breakneck race to create Windows NT
34:51SPEAKERand the next generation at Microsoft?"
34:52SPEAKERIt seems like it would be their style.
34:54SPEAKERI have not even heard of that,
34:55SPEAKERbut it is going on the list right now.
34:56SPEAKER- Yeah, I literally put on the list
34:57SPEAKERwhen I was reading the notes.
35:00SPEAKERIf it's interesting, we'll do an episode about it
35:02SPEAKER'cause I'm, like, that was a fascinating time in computing.
35:05SPEAKER- Yes, I've been slowly, I've talked about this
35:07SPEAKERon numerous podcasts at this point,
35:09SPEAKERbut I've been slowly making my way
35:10SPEAKERthrough John Romero's new memoir
35:12SPEAKERabout his career in game development,
35:14SPEAKERand it's, like, it has extremely whetted the appetite
35:16SPEAKERfor more kind of tell-all books
35:19SPEAKERabout various software development from that era.
35:23SPEAKER- That book is $2 on Kindle right now.
35:26SPEAKER- Which one, "Showstopper"?
35:27SPEAKER- "Showstopper."
35:28SPEAKER- Is it recent?
35:29SPEAKERDid it come out fairly recently?
35:35SPEAKER'Cause I know there have been different books
35:36SPEAKERabout Windowses. - 2014.
35:37SPEAKER- Oh, well, that's reasonable.
35:39SPEAKER- Yeah.
35:40SPEAKER- That's not a Sinofsky book, is it?
35:43SPEAKERDidn't he do a book about early Windows?
35:45SPEAKER- He did a book about Vista, I think.
35:46SPEAKER- Oh, that was about Vista.
35:48SPEAKEROr maybe Windows XP.
35:51SPEAKER- Anyway, yeah, it feels like we're getting there.
35:53SPEAKERThe statute of limitations on people dishing
35:56SPEAKERhas lifted from the '90s.
35:58SPEAKER- The Vista story's gonna come out soon, man.
36:00SPEAKERIt's, like, that, honestly, the book I wanna read
36:03SPEAKERis the book about the Windows XP SP2.
36:07SPEAKERLike, that is, that was when Microsoft was, like,
36:11SPEAKERsuddenly decided that security was a thing
36:13SPEAKERthey had to give a shit about.
36:15SPEAKERAnd there was an organizational change
36:17SPEAKERover a period of, like, six months
36:18SPEAKERthat resulted in them ditching NeXT windows
36:23SPEAKERand going on and doing SP2
36:27SPEAKERand fixing the security problems with Windows XP
36:30SPEAKERand all sorts of stuff, it was a, yeah.
36:33SPEAKER- Like, any time there's a major initiative,
36:36SPEAKERespecially, like, a software one
36:37SPEAKERthat completely crashes and burns
36:39SPEAKERand they have to scramble
36:39SPEAKERand get something else out there rapidly is fascinating.
36:43SPEAKER- Yeah, 'cause, like, Windows XP,
36:45SPEAKERthe worm situation on Windows XP was an absolute disaster.
36:49SPEAKERAnyway, it's, yeah.
36:51SPEAKER- You know what I would love to read a book about?
36:52SPEAKERIf anybody knows of one, please write in.
36:55SPEAKERI would love to read an account of Copland,
36:57SPEAKERthe failed Mac OS, or System 8, I should say.
37:00SPEAKER- Oh.
37:01SPEAKER- 'Cause it wasn't Mac OS yet.
37:02SPEAKERAt that point, Copland was a historic disaster
37:05SPEAKERthat they developed for two or three years
37:07SPEAKERand, like, never even ran stably
37:08SPEAKERto the point that they had to kill it
37:10SPEAKERand turn the last service release
37:12SPEAKERof System 7 into System 8.
37:14SPEAKERAnd it's ultimately what precipitated them buying NeXT
37:17SPEAKERand bringing jobs back and moving to NeXTSTEP
37:19SPEAKERas the next Mac OS and all that stuff.
37:21SPEAKERAnd I would love to read a, like,
37:23SPEAKERbehind-the-scenes account of all that.
37:26SPEAKER- That's fascinating.
37:27SPEAKER- Yes, they talk, there's a lot of NeXTSTEP talk
37:29SPEAKERin that Romero book also, which is--
37:32SPEAKER- I can see that.
37:33SPEAKERThey were a big NeXT house in the '90s.
37:35SPEAKER- Yes, caters to my interest.
37:37SPEAKERI'm right in the middle of all the Quake strife right now,
37:39SPEAKERlike, all the what went wrong on Quake
37:41SPEAKERand how it led to everything falling apart.
37:43SPEAKER- I have to, I'm interested in, I'll pick that up.
37:46SPEAKERI'm, his perspective, I'd be interested,
37:50SPEAKER'cause he is mellowed with age in a way
37:52SPEAKERthat I think most, many of us did, right?
37:55SPEAKERLike, firebrands in our 20s become a little more mellow
38:01SPEAKERand introspective in our 40s and 50s.
38:04SPEAKERSo, yeah, I'd read that book.
38:06SPEAKER- Yeah, he is extremely diplomatic in this book, I would say.
38:11SPEAKER- Okay, question from Tuller.
38:16SPEAKERWith undervolting being the new overclocking,
38:17SPEAKERI have one question.
38:18SPEAKERIs it time to bring back the turbo button?
38:21SPEAKERI think it would be neat to have a simple physical switch
38:23SPEAKERto toggle between a more limited TDP and a higher one.
38:25SPEAKER- Oh, yes.
38:27SPEAKER- I support any features from the beige box era
38:30SPEAKERof personal computing coming back.
38:34SPEAKERGive me a vinyl case badge while we're at it, please.
38:37SPEAKERCan I have the little square cut out inset on the case
38:40SPEAKERto put a vinyl case badge on?
38:41SPEAKER- I want one of those puffy ones.
38:43SPEAKER- Yeah, that's our first computer ever,
38:45SPEAKERhad the little puffy vinyl.
38:47SPEAKERPeople's Computers was the local shop that we bought it from.
38:50SPEAKER- Oh, man.
38:50SPEAKER- And it was just a little black People's Computers badge
38:53SPEAKERon the front of the case.
38:54SPEAKER- I either want that or I want a shiny Intel inside sticker.
38:58SPEAKER- Yes, those are also good.
39:00SPEAKERI mean-
39:00SPEAKER- You can't have one of those, Brad, I'm sorry.
39:03SPEAKER- Most CPUs still come with a square like my Ryzen,
39:06SPEAKERmy new AMD.
39:07SPEAKER- I'll have to look in the box.
39:08SPEAKERI don't think I looked.
39:09SPEAKERI think Adam opened the CPU when we did my computer.
39:12SPEAKER- I'm pretty sure the Alder leak in my NAS also has one.
39:18SPEAKER- This idea of a low TDP mode is really interesting.
39:21SPEAKERI bet you could do that with a Stream Deck actually.
39:24SPEAKER- Maybe, yeah.
39:24SPEAKERWell, so it already exists in software in a lot of cases.
39:27SPEAKERIn fact, it absolutely does for both graphics cards
39:29SPEAKERand CPUs, but I don't know if you could toggle it on the fly
39:33SPEAKERfor actually, I'm sorry, for GPU, you totally can.
39:35SPEAKER- Yeah, for GPU, 'cause my GPU fan's not spinning right now.
39:39SPEAKER- MSI Afterburner would let you do that
39:41SPEAKERif there's a way to hook that into the Stream Deck.
39:44SPEAKERThe thing I was gonna say here is that undervolting
39:46SPEAKERseems to have been a very short-lived phenomenon
39:48SPEAKERbecause now all the manufacturers
39:50SPEAKERare not forcing you to drop the voltage.
39:51SPEAKERThey are just setting,
39:53SPEAKERI don't know how they do it electrically,
39:54SPEAKERbut they're doing their own supported power limiting,
39:57SPEAKERwhich is not, maybe it's still modifying voltage
40:00SPEAKERunder the hood, I don't think so.
40:02SPEAKERI think it's like just capping the power draw.
40:05SPEAKERLike it's called Eco Mode
40:06SPEAKERon the last couple of generations of Ryzens.
40:08SPEAKERLike you've seen Eco Mode, right, in the press, probably.
40:11SPEAKERYou can just go into the BIOS and say like,
40:12SPEAKER"Hey, limit this to 105 watts instead of 170."
40:16SPEAKERThat's not exactly TDP.
40:17SPEAKERMy understanding is that number
40:19SPEAKERdoes not represent straight TDP.
40:20SPEAKERIt's some similar measure of power consumption.
40:23SPEAKERAnd for newer, I don't know if this is not supported
40:26SPEAKERon older cards, but like 40 series Nvidia
40:29SPEAKERin an MSI Afterburner,
40:30SPEAKERyou no longer have to tweak the voltage curve.
40:32SPEAKERThere's just a straight up slider that is just power limit.
40:36SPEAKERLike I've got my 4090 set to 80% power right now.
40:39SPEAKERIt may not sound like a distinction that matters,
40:42SPEAKERbut you're not undervolting, which can cause instability.
40:45SPEAKERYou're setting a supported power limit, which does not.
40:47SPEAKER- Well, and also the manufacturers
40:49SPEAKERare getting much more aggressive
40:50SPEAKERabout how much they cycle down
40:53SPEAKERwhen you don't actually need the power, which is nice.
40:58SPEAKER- I hope they start trending in that direction.
41:00SPEAKERThere has been such a race to the top on power consumption
41:02SPEAKERfor just eking out extra benchmark numbers for a while now.
41:06SPEAKERAnd it sucks.
41:07SPEAKERAnd I hope that because it's very wasteful of electricity,
41:11SPEAKERnot to mention extra heat
41:13SPEAKERand you're not losing much performance.
41:15SPEAKER- Yeah, I wouldn't mind not having the extra heat right now.
41:17SPEAKER- Yes.
41:18SPEAKERQuestion from Warbird.
41:19SPEAKERI believe there's another one that pairs with this.
41:21SPEAKERIf you know where it is, I don't have it in front of me.
41:23SPEAKER- It's directly underneath it. I moved it up.
41:25SPEAKER- Oh, great. Perfect.
41:26SPEAKERAll right, the Warbird question.
41:27SPEAKERWhat's a concept, tech or otherwise,
41:29SPEAKERthat has been mission critical,
41:30SPEAKERbut somehow passed you by for far too long?
41:33SPEAKERExample, I worked as various flavors of Linux admin,
41:36SPEAKERDevOps, and ops for more than half a decade
41:38SPEAKERbefore I found out about tab completion.
41:41SPEAKERAnd only then by accidents,
41:44SPEAKERit was a very strange combination of feelings,
41:46SPEAKERmostly elation and a good bit of rage.
41:48SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a big one to miss.
41:51SPEAKER- Yes, tab completion, anybody who doesn't know,
41:53SPEAKERjust add a command line, type part of a command, hit tab,
41:56SPEAKERit will, or a file or anything,
41:58SPEAKERit will either complete it if there's only one option
42:01SPEAKERor give you a list of options if there's a bunch.
42:04SPEAKERI guess like an add-on to that,
42:06SPEAKERit took me until like very recently
42:08SPEAKERto realize the tab completion works
42:09SPEAKERfor like a ton of stuff in Linux.
42:13SPEAKER- Yeah.
42:14SPEAKER- Not just base commands for binaries
42:16SPEAKERthat are in your path or files in the current directory.
42:19SPEAKERLike I'm trying to think of an example, like ZFS supports it.
42:21SPEAKERSo if I like type half of a dataset name for ZFS
42:24SPEAKERand hit tab, it'll auto complete that.
42:25SPEAKEROr like chown, like if you're chowning a file,
42:30SPEAKERif you're changing the owner of a file,
42:33SPEAKERit'll match against all the users on the system.
42:35SPEAKERSo you can type like the first letter of a username
42:37SPEAKERand it'll hit tab everywhere is my advice
42:39SPEAKERand see what happens.
42:40SPEAKER- Well, I was gonna say the thing that took me a long time
42:42SPEAKERto realize is that you can hit tab
42:44SPEAKERto do arguments for something too.
42:47SPEAKERLike if you have to do a path in an argument,
42:51SPEAKERyou can tab complete that path on most stuff.
42:53SPEAKERIt seems like there's like,
42:55SPEAKERit's weirder when it doesn't work than when it does.
42:57SPEAKER- Yes, yes.
42:57SPEAKERAnd in fact, I assume this is the same for bash.
43:00SPEAKERI use Z shell, but you can write your own completions.
43:03SPEAKERLike you can actually,
43:04SPEAKERI don't think I would take the time to learn how to do that,
43:06SPEAKERbut you can write your own completions.
43:09SPEAKERThere's a mosquito on this table.
43:10SPEAKERCan I kill it?
43:11SPEAKER- Yeah, please.
43:13SPEAKER- It just flew.
43:14SPEAKERI didn't get it.
43:16SPEAKER- Godspeed little mosquito.
43:18SPEAKER- Oh no.
43:19SPEAKERI bet I've gotten about four dozen mosquito bites
43:22SPEAKERin the last week.
43:23SPEAKER- You want West Nile?
43:24SPEAKERThat's how you get West Nile, Brad.
43:25SPEAKER- It's bad around here.
43:27SPEAKERAnyway, let me read the other question here.
43:30SPEAKER- Yeah.
43:31SPEAKER- The moon room.
43:33SPEAKERI play Fortnite with a regular crew that developed back
43:35SPEAKERwhen Will mentioned the game getting good on the podcasts.
43:37SPEAKERToday, one of those regulars realized mid-match
43:41SPEAKERthat perks existed.
43:43SPEAKERWhat useful features of your favorite games or tech
43:45SPEAKERdid you go far too long before discovery?
43:48SPEAKER- Okay, so on the first side,
43:50SPEAKERI didn't realize that you could configure the quick links
43:54SPEAKERin Windows, that the thing, well, in the old days,
43:58SPEAKERit was at the top of the left column in File Explorer
44:01SPEAKERor Explorer, I guess is what it's called now.
44:04SPEAKER- I think it's still File Explorer.
44:05SPEAKERIs it not still there?
44:06SPEAKERI think it is in 10.
44:07SPEAKER- It's still there, but now they put home
44:10SPEAKERand they put the fucking OneDrive folder above it
44:13SPEAKERbecause Microsoft and you can't move the OneDrive folder
44:17SPEAKERabove the quick access.
44:18SPEAKER- It's above the quick access.
44:19SPEAKER- It's terrible, and it's still below.
44:21SPEAKERQuick access is still at the top where it should be
44:23SPEAKERbecause you need it to be quick.
44:25SPEAKER- Well, so for a long time, you couldn't,
44:28SPEAKERit defaulted to open the OneDrive,
44:30SPEAKERso then you have to, making the quick access useless.
44:32SPEAKERThey finally fixed that, so that's an improvement.
44:35SPEAKERBut you can pin stuff in there,
44:36SPEAKERand there's places all through Windows File Explorer
44:40SPEAKERand the Windows Start menu.
44:42SPEAKERYou can pin stuff on the Start menu,
44:43SPEAKERwhich they don't exactly make obvious,
44:48SPEAKERso you have to right-click it and know that
44:49SPEAKERthere's a pin to start option there.
44:51SPEAKERI didn't know about pin to start.
44:52SPEAKERI just pinned everything to the taskbar for years.
44:54SPEAKER- Ah, that's, I still prefer pinning to taskbar generally.
44:59SPEAKERWell, I have slight bone to pick with quick access menus
45:02SPEAKERsince we're talking about it.
45:04SPEAKERThose are not aliases to the thing you're quick accessing.
45:06SPEAKERYou can't rename them like shortcuts.
45:08SPEAKERThey are just the thing.
45:11SPEAKERDoes that make sense?
45:12SPEAKERSo like, let's say I had two different folders,
45:14SPEAKERboth called audio in different locations.
45:18SPEAKERIf I pin both of those to quick access,
45:19SPEAKERthey both just say audio.
45:20SPEAKER- Oh, yeah, you put different icons on them though.
45:23SPEAKER- Can you?
45:24SPEAKER- Well, you'd have to do it for the file, for the folder.
45:26SPEAKER- Oh, that's a, okay.
45:28SPEAKERI just ended up naming them different things.
45:30SPEAKER- That's how I, well, I have two things called tech pod
45:32SPEAKERand two things called videos,
45:33SPEAKERand one has a icon and the other doesn't.
45:36SPEAKER- Right, like they should just let you
45:38SPEAKERrename those, those should be shortcuts.
45:41SPEAKER- Did you know, do you know about the Windows key
45:42SPEAKERplus one, plus two, plus three, plus four, plus five?
45:45SPEAKER- Yeah, I don't use it as much as I should,
45:46SPEAKERbut yes, that's a good one.
45:47SPEAKER- That's one of my all-time faves,
45:49SPEAKERthat Windows key plus one opens the first icon
45:51SPEAKERon your taskbar, Windows key plus two opens the second one,
45:54SPEAKERand so on.
45:55SPEAKER- My problem is it passed about four or five icons,
45:57SPEAKERit gets harder to count.
45:59SPEAKER- Well, I just always have Firefox, Firefox File Explorer,
46:02SPEAKERDiscord, Steam, and OBS.
46:04SPEAKER- Yeah, for the first few.
46:05SPEAKER- It's the first five.
46:06SPEAKER- And if you have like, for example,
46:08SPEAKERif you have a browser on one
46:09SPEAKERand a bunch of browser windows open,
46:10SPEAKERthen it won't open another one,
46:12SPEAKERit'll cycle through all of them, I think, is how that works.
46:14SPEAKER- It depends on the browser, I think,
46:15SPEAKERbut here, I'll tell you in a sec.
46:17SPEAKER- That's possible.
46:18SPEAKER- Nope, cycles through the tabs.
46:19SPEAKER- Nope.
46:20SPEAKER- Firefox cycles through the tabs
46:21SPEAKERuntil you have more than like 10 or 20 tabs, I think.
46:24SPEAKER- Yeah.
46:26SPEAKERGosh, I wonder if I have any good examples for this.
46:29SPEAKER- This was a hard one to come up with.
46:30SPEAKERI'd be curious if, I bet people have interesting ones here,
46:33SPEAKER'cause I bet there's some stuff that we don't know about
46:34SPEAKERthat people have discovered.
46:36SPEAKER- Yeah, yes.
46:38SPEAKERAnd in our fancy new forum for weekly episodes,
46:42SPEAKERin the thread for, it is a thread, right?
46:44SPEAKERThat's what they're called.
46:45SPEAKER- It's called a post.
46:46SPEAKER- It's called a post, not a thread.
46:47SPEAKER- It's not a thread.
46:48SPEAKERThreads are threads, posts are in forums.
46:51SPEAKER- Threads means something different in Discord,
46:52SPEAKEReven though they now have a feature called forums,
46:55SPEAKERwhich you would expect to contain threads,
46:56SPEAKERbut in fact, they are posts.
46:58SPEAKER- Yeah.
46:58SPEAKER- In the post for this week's episode,
47:00SPEAKERI hope people will share stuff like this
47:02SPEAKERthat maybe other people don't know about
47:05SPEAKERthat could be helpful to them.
47:07SPEAKER- Yeah, that would be awesome.
47:08SPEAKER- Yes.
47:10SPEAKER- Fortnite, Fortnite has like live service games.
47:13SPEAKERThis is a problem we have as somebody
47:15SPEAKERwho's working on a game that has had 48 updates
47:17SPEAKERin the last year and a half.
47:21SPEAKERYou constantly have to be getting new players in
47:24SPEAKERto look at the game and watch them play
47:26SPEAKERto find out what they don't understand
47:27SPEAKERthat you've added to the game.
47:30SPEAKERSo Fortnite, I didn't realize you buy emotes in the game,
47:33SPEAKERso you can do like, I can do the Dougie, right?
47:37SPEAKERI didn't realize, unlike most games
47:41SPEAKERthat force you to load some subset of emotes
47:43SPEAKERat the start of the game,
47:44SPEAKERFortnite gives you access to everything
47:45SPEAKERyou've ever bought in every game.
47:47SPEAKERYou just have to scroll through the list
47:48SPEAKERand you hold down, you long press the emote button
47:51SPEAKERto get the wheel up and then you can scroll to other pages
47:53SPEAKERand get more and more and more and more and more.
47:56SPEAKERThey're alphabetized by the name of the emote.
47:59SPEAKERI have no idea.
48:00SPEAKERSo if you know the name of the emote,
48:03SPEAKERif you know like, actually I have no idea what it's called.
48:06SPEAKERIt's like dodging bullets or something.
48:08SPEAKERIt's a matrix, it's a, Neos Bullet Dodge is what it's called.
48:11SPEAKERSo if you go to the ends, you can do the,
48:14SPEAKERKeanu Reeves thing from The Matrix where you lean back.
48:17SPEAKERThat one's good because sometimes the characters
48:19SPEAKERwear sunglasses and sometimes they don't, Brad.
48:21SPEAKERIt depends on if they have glasses or eyes.
48:25SPEAKERBut also the glasses are scaled to the size of the eyes.
48:28SPEAKERSo if you have a character with really big eyes
48:30SPEAKERand the glasses are enormous
48:31SPEAKERand if you have a character with tiny eyes,
48:33SPEAKERthey're very, very small.
48:34SPEAKER- That's pretty good.
48:35SPEAKER- It's a good game.
48:35SPEAKER- Novelty, oversized facial accessories never get old.
48:40SPEAKER- Yeah, but like I cringe to think about like a game
48:43SPEAKERlike WoW that's been running for 20 years now
48:45SPEAKERand like what the, like how do you expose
48:51SPEAKER20 years worth of UI?
48:53SPEAKERI mean, I'm sure they've redone it at least a handful
48:55SPEAKERof times in the last 20 years.
48:56SPEAKERBut like just that level of the knowledge
49:02SPEAKERthat people who've been playing that game
49:03SPEAKERand working on that game for such a long time have
49:06SPEAKERversus say me coming back to that game after 20 years.
49:10SPEAKERLike I don't know how you communicate that
49:12SPEAKERwithout being really intentional about it.
49:14SPEAKERAnd I'm always in awe of the people who do that well.
49:17SPEAKER- Yeah, my impression from the couple of times a year
49:20SPEAKERI hop on the PTR just to run around
49:23SPEAKERis that they mostly are just catering to the people
49:25SPEAKERwho have been playing for a long time at this point.
49:27SPEAKER- Yeah, and I assume that there's a fair amount of,
49:29SPEAKERhey, my computer ran WoW in 2009,
49:31SPEAKERso why does it not run WoW now?
49:33SPEAKER- Yes.
49:34SPEAKER- So they can't change too much.
49:36SPEAKER- Yes, yes, okay.
49:38SPEAKERI had one, I lost it, I need to find it again.
49:42SPEAKERDid he say oven or stove?
49:44SPEAKERStove, here it is, argils.
49:48SPEAKERWhen I moved into my current residence
49:49SPEAKERit came with a smart stove.
49:52SPEAKEROnce a year in July on the dot
49:53SPEAKERthe control panel starts flashing an error
49:55SPEAKERand requesting that a technician be called.
49:58SPEAKERRather than do that, I open it up, unplug the connectors
50:01SPEAKERand plug it back in resolving the issue for another year.
50:05SPEAKERThis has gone on for four years.
50:07SPEAKERI'm paranoid that this is some service scam
50:09SPEAKERand the thing is pre-programmed to quote break
50:11SPEAKERafter some time.
50:13SPEAKERAm I being delusional or could that actually be the case?
50:16SPEAKER- So our oven has an error that comes up
50:19SPEAKERafter a period of time that's like,
50:21SPEAKERthat is because the pilot light needs to be cleaned.
50:24SPEAKERLike there's carbon buildup on the pilot
50:26SPEAKERand under the glow plugs that hit the gas.
50:31SPEAKERAnyway, there's a thing that has to be cleaned
50:33SPEAKERwhere the fire comes out to light the fire for the oven.
50:37SPEAKERAnd that's not based on any sensor, it's based on time.
50:39SPEAKERSo it could be something like that.
50:41SPEAKERI think as long as the oven continues to light
50:43SPEAKERyou're probably okay.
50:46SPEAKERI have not connected our stove to the internet.
50:50SPEAKERWe have a smart stove because you kind of can for the best.
50:52SPEAKERYou kind of can't buy a stove that's not a smart stove.
50:55SPEAKERAnd I think I hooked it up when we first got it
50:58SPEAKERbecause I was curious what it did.
51:01SPEAKERBut like you, in order to make it turn on remotely
51:05SPEAKERyou have to preload it and say, hey,
51:07SPEAKERhere's the settings I want and I want to turn on,
51:09SPEAKERI want it to be available to turn on remotely.
51:12SPEAKERSo it wasn't like I could just jam a casserole dish
51:15SPEAKERin there in the morning and then turn on the oven
51:16SPEAKERat the end of the day.
51:21SPEAKER- Based on my recent experience with firmware bugs
51:23SPEAKERand televisions, I'm gonna say
51:27SPEAKERany device that has firmware and controls fire,
51:32SPEAKERmaybe not a good idea.
51:33SPEAKER- I mean, the fire part is mostly not controllable
51:36SPEAKERby the computer, only the oven.
51:39SPEAKER- Oh, you're the dude.
51:40SPEAKER- Okay, fair.
51:41SPEAKER- Well, 'cause the guest stove has knobs.
51:43SPEAKER- Yes, sure.
51:44SPEAKERThat's fair.
51:45SPEAKERStill, I don't know, man.
51:47SPEAKERI don't know.
51:49SPEAKER- That reminds me, I have to call them
51:50SPEAKERand get them to come and replace the glow plugs on my oven
51:54SPEAKERbecause it hasn't worked in a couple of months.
51:56SPEAKER- Glow plug is a cool name for a part.
51:58SPEAKER- Is it, you know why it's called that?
52:00SPEAKERIt's 'cause you plug it in and it glows.
52:02SPEAKER- Oh, wow.
52:03SPEAKER- Yeah.
52:04SPEAKER- It's like truth in advertising.
52:05SPEAKERThe part where this is just call a technician on a timer
52:08SPEAKERand not, hey, here is what might be wrong
52:10SPEAKERor here's what needs to be cleaned.
52:12SPEAKERJust, hey, put in a service call maybe seems a little bit.
52:16SPEAKER- I mean, so I've changed the thing that lights the fire
52:20SPEAKERunder a stove before, under an oven before.
52:22SPEAKERIt was a fairly involved process
52:25SPEAKERthat involved like me laying on the ground
52:26SPEAKERand reaching four feet under the,
52:28SPEAKERto the back of the stove from the front.
52:30SPEAKERI wouldn't, I don't think that that's a user serviceable part
52:33SPEAKERlike I could, mine needs that now
52:36SPEAKERand I'm not, I'm gonna get somebody to come and do it
52:38SPEAKERrather than do it myself.
52:39SPEAKER- Yeah.
52:40SPEAKER- It's also under warranty still.
52:41SPEAKERSo I guess that changes the dynamic a little bit.
52:43SPEAKER- Sure.
52:45SPEAKERAnother question from the moon room.
52:47SPEAKERBaldur's Gate 3 is selling like hotcakes presumably.
52:51SPEAKERI'm sorry, let me reread that.
52:52SPEAKERI see where, I see what he's trying to say now.
52:55SPEAKERBaldur's Gate 3 is selling like hotcakes presumably did
52:58SPEAKERat some point in the distant past.
53:00SPEAKERI guess hotcakes were in fact very popular and still are.
53:03SPEAKER- Yeah, who doesn't like hotcake?
53:05SPEAKER- That's true.
53:06SPEAKERSo as I typed this, they're at 800,000 players on Steam.
53:08SPEAKERHow much of the success do you think is down
53:10SPEAKERto the game being cool
53:11SPEAKERversus a ton of marketing dollars spent?
53:13SPEAKERDoes marketing on Steam significantly change
53:15SPEAKERtheir recommendation results?
53:16SPEAKERDid they spend that much on marketing for that game?
53:19SPEAKER- So it was in early access for a really long time,
53:22SPEAKERwhich I think they did instead of a massive marketing.
53:24SPEAKERAlso it's a research of the coast game, yeah, three years.
53:28SPEAKERAs far as I know,
53:30SPEAKERI don't think there's a way to spend money marketing.
53:32SPEAKERI mean, there's not a systematized way
53:36SPEAKERto spend money on Steam.
53:37SPEAKERI'm sure you can talk to Valve and come up with something,
53:41SPEAKERbut it's not like the app store on iOS or Android or Amazon
53:47SPEAKERor any other place where there's an advertising layer
53:49SPEAKERon top of the store layer
53:50SPEAKERwhere you can pay to have your product featured easily
53:53SPEAKERand like is accessible to everyone.
53:58SPEAKERThe recommendation results on Steam are mostly based
54:01SPEAKERon how your game is doing on reviews
54:04SPEAKERis from what I've been able to tell.
54:07SPEAKERIf you want to do better on Steam,
54:11SPEAKERhaving good review scores
54:12SPEAKERand having lots of reviews coming in constantly
54:15SPEAKERfrom people who bought the game on Steam
54:16SPEAKERis the best way to do it.
54:18SPEAKERSo the corollary to that is if there is a game
54:21SPEAKERthat you like on Steam,
54:23SPEAKERtake two minutes and hit the thumbs up button
54:25SPEAKERand write a review of it.
54:26SPEAKEREven if you have criticisms of it
54:28SPEAKERand you think it's something you like,
54:30SPEAKERdon't, for God's sakes, just don't leave thumbs downs.
54:34SPEAKERI get up every morning and the first thing I do
54:36SPEAKERis look at Steam and I'm just like, oh man.
54:38SPEAKERSomebody's like, I really love this game,
54:39SPEAKERbut I'm like, oh shit, here it comes.
54:41SPEAKER- No time for thumbs downs.
54:43SPEAKER- Well, I mean--
54:44SPEAKER- Don't ruin Will's day.
54:45SPEAKER- It's not about my day, but it's like you're not,
54:49SPEAKERyou're actively hurting the game that you like
54:51SPEAKERif you give it a thumbs down.
54:53SPEAKER- Yeah.
54:54SPEAKER- Right now, the Ana Cruz is very positive on Steam
54:57SPEAKERfor the last 30 days.
54:58SPEAKERThat means we're above 80%.
55:00SPEAKER- That's good.
55:00SPEAKER- If you get into overwhelmingly positive,
55:02SPEAKERwhich is in the low nineties, I think, or mid nineties,
55:06SPEAKERall sorts of magic stuff happens.
55:07SPEAKER- Oh, I bet.
55:08SPEAKER- It's really good.
55:09SPEAKER- That's just, is that just hash from the recent reviews,
55:11SPEAKERnot the all time reviews?
55:12SPEAKER- So--
55:13SPEAKER- Oh wait, oh wait, they break it out for both, right?
55:14SPEAKERDon't they list a, they list a qualitative rating
55:18SPEAKERfor both all reviews and recent reviews, right?
55:20SPEAKERIt's like all time reviews are mixed,
55:22SPEAKERbut recent reviews are very positive.
55:25SPEAKER- If, yeah, if you have an overall,
55:27SPEAKERthey did that to stop review bombs,
55:29SPEAKERbut also it's good for people who are like trending up.
55:32SPEAKERLike our, with the exception of a few days here and there
55:36SPEAKERwhere we have like a rasher of negative reviews
55:39SPEAKERand that haven't, that have fall off
55:42SPEAKERafter some positive reviews,
55:43SPEAKERwe've been mostly or very positive for like the last year
55:46SPEAKERin the 30 day rolling total,
55:49SPEAKERbut our average is mostly positive
55:52SPEAKERfor people who bought the game.
55:53SPEAKERAnd then if you do stuff like free weekends,
55:55SPEAKERall the people who play during the free weekend
55:57SPEAKERget an opportunity to leave a review too,
55:59SPEAKERbut those don't count in the totals
56:02SPEAKERunless they buy the game.
56:03SPEAKERSo, it's a weird, the Steam thing is a weird system.
56:10SPEAKER- Yes, I believe that, certainly.
56:14SPEAKERHow about a couple, three more real quick here?
56:18SPEAKER- Oh, sorry, I wanted to say,
56:19SPEAKERlike in terms of marketing dollars spent,
56:21SPEAKERI don't think they spent a ton of money on Baldur's Gate.
56:23SPEAKERI didn't see bus ads, I didn't see billboards,
56:25SPEAKERI didn't see a lot of TV or internet video ads.
56:29SPEAKERThere were a handful, but not more than I would expect
56:31SPEAKERfor any other like triple A.
56:35SPEAKERI would expect they spent a couple hundred grand.
56:37SPEAKER- Yeah, I honestly, I think a big part of it
56:39SPEAKERis that people are just very hungry
56:41SPEAKERfor that kind of RPG again.
56:43SPEAKERAnd there are some of them out there, but not a ton.
56:45SPEAKERAnd this one has the Dungeons and Dragons stamp on it.
56:50SPEAKERThat's obviously going to boost it somewhat as well.
56:52SPEAKERI like Baldur's Gate in itself is a hallowed name.
56:55SPEAKER- Well, yeah, and there's a famous GDC talk,
56:58SPEAKERI don't remember who gave it,
56:59SPEAKERbut it's the gist is nobody knows your game.
57:01SPEAKERLike nobody knows what your game is.
57:03SPEAKERThat is the thing everybody fights, right?
57:06SPEAKERIs that even if you've been making games
57:09SPEAKERfor a really long time, unless you're super giant
57:12SPEAKERand you've released five games and they've all been bangers
57:14SPEAKERand you have this built up audience that loves your work,
57:17SPEAKERyou, especially if you're a new studio,
57:21SPEAKERnobody knows your games.
57:21SPEAKERNow, Larian's been making games for 15 years at this point
57:24SPEAKERand they've made a series of bangers,
57:28SPEAKERbut still letting people know
57:30SPEAKERthat there's a new Baldur's Gate.
57:31SPEAKERIt's not like Baldur's Gate is a franchise
57:33SPEAKERthat was, the last Baldur's Gate game
57:37SPEAKERcame out 20 years ago.
57:38SPEAKERSo they did early access, they did it really well.
57:43SPEAKERThey listened to the community, they engaged with people,
57:45SPEAKERthey reacted and they shaped the game based on that feedback
57:50SPEAKERand they used the audience to test,
57:52SPEAKERwhich is like the best kind of marketing
57:55SPEAKERis somebody that says,
57:56SPEAKERyeah, I played this game in early access.
57:57SPEAKERLike when Jason told me about Dead Cells,
58:00SPEAKERJason Oestreicher told me about Dead Cells five years ago,
58:03SPEAKERhe was like, yeah, I played this in early access,
58:05SPEAKERit's super dope.
58:06SPEAKERAnd I was like, well, that's the, like,
58:08SPEAKERI can't, no better endorsement than,
58:10SPEAKERhey, I've played this entire game
58:11SPEAKERand it's really good before it was done.
58:14SPEAKER- And I still want to keep playing it
58:15SPEAKERnow that I've played a ton of the unfinished version.
58:17SPEAKER- Yeah, like I literally downloaded it the other day
58:19SPEAKER'cause they've added so much to it
58:20SPEAKERsince the last time, Dead Cells, incredible game.
58:22SPEAKERAnyway.
58:23SPEAKER- Yeah, did that get its PS5 release?
58:25SPEAKERI need to check.
58:25SPEAKERThey were gonna do a free PS5 upgrade for people.
58:28SPEAKER- I don't know, they have, they added the Castlevania,
58:31SPEAKERI bought the Castlevania thing the other day.
58:34SPEAKER- That stuff is rad.
58:35SPEAKER- I hadn't gotten to that environment yet,
58:37SPEAKERbut yeah, it's like super,
58:39SPEAKERit's so cool that like the thing that inspired them
58:41SPEAKERended up getting looped into the game.
58:43SPEAKER- Yeah, yeah.
58:44SPEAKERHow better do you know that you've made it
58:46SPEAKERthan your own inspiration wants to work with you?
58:50SPEAKER- Yeah, I absolutely, I love that game.
58:52SPEAKERI've been, shout out for Dead Link
58:54SPEAKERin the interest of promoting other indie games.
58:57SPEAKERIt came out a couple of weeks ago
58:59SPEAKERand it's a like roguelike,
59:01SPEAKERit's like imagine Doom's kind of combat loop
59:04SPEAKERwhere you have like a couple of powers and jumps
59:06SPEAKERand stuff like that, but it's roguelike
59:09SPEAKERwhere you run through a series of arenas.
59:11SPEAKER- I saw this, I saw this going around
59:13SPEAKERand there are a lot of this type of shooter these days.
59:15SPEAKER- This is the best one of them that I've played
59:17SPEAKERby a huge margin.
59:19SPEAKER- Kind of run together a little bit,
59:20SPEAKERbut I did not realize this was a roguelike or light.
59:23SPEAKER- I looked at it and thought it was like Gunfire Reborn,
59:26SPEAKERbut it is a different kind of game than that.
59:28SPEAKER- I might have to give this a look.
59:30SPEAKER- Knowing what you like, you would like this a lot.
59:32SPEAKERThe shooting is very fast and crisp and doomy.
59:36SPEAKER- Yeah, also there's another one called Turbo Overkill
59:40SPEAKERthat just came out that apparently is also extremely good.
59:42SPEAKER- Well, check that out.
59:43SPEAKER- Which is put out by Apogee Entertainment.
59:45SPEAKERPerhaps you've heard of them.
59:46SPEAKER- I've heard of Apogee.
59:48SPEAKER- Apogee factors pretty heavily in that Romero book
59:51SPEAKERabout the dawn of shareware.
59:53SPEAKER- Isn't that where they worked
59:54SPEAKERwhen they were doing Commander Keen or something?
59:56SPEAKER- No, that was Soft Disk was the company
59:58SPEAKERthey actually worked for, but Apogee was their publisher for,
1:00:02SPEAKERdid Apogee invent shareware?
1:00:04SPEAKERWe should talk about shareware sometime,
1:00:05SPEAKERbut not right now.
1:00:07SPEAKERNot right now, but shareware was a fascinating concept.
1:00:09SPEAKER- So Turbo Overkill looks grimier.
1:00:13SPEAKER- Dead kill is very crisp.
1:00:15SPEAKER- Dead link, right?
1:00:17SPEAKER- Dead, did I say dead kill?
1:00:18SPEAKERDead link, yeah.
1:00:20SPEAKER- Yeah, dead link looks like a modern game,
1:00:22SPEAKERnot like a retro throwback, visual treatment.
1:00:25SPEAKER- It shoots like a old game though.
1:00:27SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:00:28SPEAKER- It's for old men.
1:00:30SPEAKER- Well, great.
1:00:33SPEAKERDebating whether to read this vertices
1:00:35SPEAKERto question about whiskey.
1:00:37SPEAKERWhat is your whiskey of choice?
1:00:38SPEAKERIt seemed like Will was suggesting an anti-Pete agenda
1:00:41SPEAKERand a reason episode, please talk more about whiskey.
1:00:43SPEAKERThank you.
1:00:44SPEAKER- I wasn't suggesting it.
1:00:46SPEAKERI was saying, if you want dirt with your booze,
1:00:48SPEAKERthen just go get a mouthful of dirt.
1:00:50SPEAKER- And just go get a bottle of Laphroaig.
1:00:54SPEAKERIt's like...
1:00:55SPEAKER- I'll drink a bourbon.
1:00:56SPEAKERThank you.
1:00:57SPEAKER- I think I stole this from somebody.
1:00:59SPEAKERI don't remember if I read this somewhere,
1:01:00SPEAKERbut the super peated Isla,
1:01:04SPEAKERIsla's, which is type of scotch,
1:01:06SPEAKERare like drinking a campfire put out with seawater.
1:01:10SPEAKER- That sounds horrible.
1:01:12SPEAKER- It's great.
1:01:13SPEAKERIt's the best.
1:01:14SPEAKERIt's the best.
1:01:15SPEAKER- I'll just like a nice sipping bourbon,
1:01:17SPEAKERbut I don't even really drink anymore.
1:01:18SPEAKERSo it's not...
1:01:19SPEAKER- I'm kind of on a whiskey hiatus myself,
1:01:21SPEAKERbut it is the very definition of an acquired taste,
1:01:26SPEAKERbut man, it's great.
1:01:28SPEAKERMaybe we'll talk more about whiskey some other time.
1:01:30SPEAKER- We can get Adam back to talk about booze again.
1:01:32SPEAKERHe needs to be down.
1:01:33SPEAKER- I got deep into,
1:01:34SPEAKERI haven't had bourbon in like years at this point.
1:01:37SPEAKERI got way into scotch and Irish whiskey
1:01:39SPEAKERover the last couple, three years.
1:01:41SPEAKER- Bourbon got really expensive
1:01:42SPEAKER'cause it got unreasonably popular for a little bit there.
1:01:46SPEAKERSo long time bourbon drinkers suffered
1:01:48SPEAKER'cause all of your garden variety,
1:01:54SPEAKERinexpensive daily drinkers like Basil Hayden
1:01:57SPEAKERand all that stuff suddenly were 50 bucks a bottle.
1:01:59SPEAKER- Yes, like my new favorite scotch
1:02:02SPEAKERis the Balvin E12 double wood,
1:02:05SPEAKERwhich if you're lucky,
1:02:07SPEAKERyou can find for 50 bucks around these days,
1:02:09SPEAKERbut mostly like 60.
1:02:11SPEAKERAnd so I've only gotten one bottle of it so far
1:02:14SPEAKER'cause I got it on a sale.
1:02:15SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:02:16SPEAKER- But then I happened to look up a review of it
1:02:17SPEAKERfrom eight years ago, maybe,
1:02:21SPEAKERat which point it was like $33.
1:02:23SPEAKER- Well, that's-
1:02:24SPEAKER- So the price creep,
1:02:25SPEAKERthe price creep on anything in that space.
1:02:28SPEAKERAnd it's a weird,
1:02:30SPEAKERwe're getting far afield of the show here,
1:02:32SPEAKERbut it's an interesting like supply chain issue
1:02:34SPEAKERbecause it takes so long to produce, you know?
1:02:36SPEAKER- I mean, that's it.
1:02:37SPEAKERA decent bourbon is at least a seven-year pipeline.
1:02:40SPEAKER- Right, right, and scotch.
1:02:41SPEAKERI mean, some of this owes to climate,
1:02:43SPEAKERbut scotch is usually like the minimum age
1:02:46SPEAKERfor a single malt is usually like 12 years
1:02:48SPEAKERas considered like a good cutoff.
1:02:50SPEAKERSo it's just like you have to preload your inventory so much.
1:02:54SPEAKER- Well, it's funny.
1:02:56SPEAKERI talked about this with Adam
1:02:57SPEAKERwhen we did the tested video with him,
1:02:59SPEAKERbut it is totally straight up supply demand economics, right?
1:03:04SPEAKERLike when there are more people
1:03:07SPEAKERthat want to drink the scotch than there is scotch,
1:03:09SPEAKERthe price goes up.
1:03:10SPEAKERAnd when there are fewer than the price goes down,
1:03:13SPEAKERthe same thing for bourbon.
1:03:14SPEAKERAnd like your vodkas and gins
1:03:16SPEAKERare a much faster production process.
1:03:18SPEAKERSo they can just ramp up or ramp down on any given year.
1:03:20SPEAKER- That's the thing is that if something ends up being hot,
1:03:23SPEAKERyou can't just ramp up production
1:03:24SPEAKERand supply or satisfy the demand, right?
1:03:27SPEAKER- Well, people try.
1:03:28SPEAKER- Well, yeah, so that, sorry, rambling here.
1:03:31SPEAKERLike if you read a lot of reviews
1:03:33SPEAKERof like emerging distilleries and stuff like that,
1:03:34SPEAKERa lot of them will get their operation going,
1:03:37SPEAKERbut then source the distilled spirit from someone else
1:03:40SPEAKERand like age it themselves to try to get going faster
1:03:43SPEAKERas they build toward distilling their own.
1:03:45SPEAKERBut that takes like years.
1:03:46SPEAKER- Yeah, or like the place in Alameda
1:03:50SPEAKERstarted out making like kind of artisanal gin
1:03:54SPEAKERand clear spirits and then moved into bourbon
1:03:57SPEAKERand stuff like that as after they'd been up and running
1:04:01SPEAKERfor a few years.
1:04:02SPEAKER- Yeah, like there's less whiskey.
1:04:04SPEAKER- I think Adam talked about it when we had them on,
1:04:05SPEAKERthere's the, what is the firm?
1:04:06SPEAKERMGD, I think is the name of the company in like Indiana
1:04:09SPEAKERthat supplies like some insane amount of the actual whiskey
1:04:12SPEAKERthat is produced in America. - The corn whiskey, yeah.
1:04:14SPEAKER- They distill all of it and then just send it to people
1:04:16SPEAKERto do what they will with.
1:04:17SPEAKER- Yep.
1:04:18SPEAKER- Anyway, I guess we did talk about whiskey a little bit.
1:04:22SPEAKERAnd another question from Warbird.
1:04:24SPEAKERI don't know if this is tech related at all, but.
1:04:26SPEAKER- Warbird's the new cake batter, I guess.
1:04:28SPEAKERSorry, cake batter, you've been replaced.
1:04:30SPEAKER- How does Brad handle the welfare
1:04:32SPEAKERof the pigs during cross-coast jaunts?
1:04:34SPEAKERPig sitters?
1:04:36SPEAKERPigs in a pet container must be small enough
1:04:38SPEAKERto fit underneath the seat without blocking any person's path
1:04:40SPEAKERto the main aisle of the airplane.
1:04:42SPEAKERI would never do that to them.
1:04:43SPEAKER- I can't imagine they would do well on the plane.
1:04:45SPEAKER- They would not do great.
1:04:46SPEAKERI mean, I think they wouldn't make it,
1:04:47SPEAKERbut they would be very frightful time, let's say.
1:04:51SPEAKERAnd also the setup to care for them.
1:04:53SPEAKERI would have to buy so much stuff on the other end
1:04:57SPEAKERto properly care for them.
1:04:59SPEAKER- You'd have to have like a cage and build a new cage
1:05:02SPEAKERand get hay in and all kinds of stuff.
1:05:04SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:05:05SPEAKERWell, hay in North Carolina is less of a problem,
1:05:07SPEAKERit turns out.
1:05:07SPEAKER- Probably, yeah, you're probably right.
1:05:09SPEAKERWe could find some good Timothy around here.
1:05:11SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:05:13SPEAKER- Our solution now is that we don't travel together anymore.
1:05:17SPEAKER- Oh, that sucks.
1:05:18SPEAKER- It sucks.
1:05:19SPEAKERIf one of us has to go out of town,
1:05:20SPEAKERthe other has to stay home.
1:05:21SPEAKER- We are successful pig sitters, Brad,
1:05:23SPEAKERand I'm just saying we've-
1:05:24SPEAKER- Yeah, it's true.
1:05:25SPEAKERWe've discussed it, actually.
1:05:27SPEAKERIt has come up as an option before.
1:05:28SPEAKER- We have pig sat a couple of times now.
1:05:30SPEAKERWe have no fatalities.
1:05:33SPEAKER- For the longest time,
1:05:36SPEAKERthe lady who ran the rescue down in La Honda,
1:05:38SPEAKERwhere we got our first piggies from,
1:05:40SPEAKERalso did boarding for incredibly reasonable prices.
1:05:43SPEAKERAnd she was incredible.
1:05:45SPEAKEROne of our piggies when we boarded them there
1:05:47SPEAKERfor like a week had an extreme health issue
1:05:50SPEAKERin the middle of it.
1:05:51SPEAKERAnd she like dropped everything to care for her,
1:05:55SPEAKERliterally around the clock to keep her alive
1:05:57SPEAKERuntil she got better.
1:05:58SPEAKERLike it was literally a like needs to be,
1:06:01SPEAKERneed medication and like syringe food
1:06:03SPEAKERneed to be administered every like three hours
1:06:05SPEAKERaround the clock.
1:06:06SPEAKERSo she was straight up getting up in the middle of the night
1:06:08SPEAKERfor a couple of days to keep our pet alive.
1:06:11SPEAKER- That's what you want.
1:06:12SPEAKERBut I mean, that's above and beyond.
1:06:14SPEAKER- And took her to an emergency vet.
1:06:17SPEAKERBut again, she ran a rescue,
1:06:19SPEAKERhad been running a rescue for like 20 years
1:06:21SPEAKERand like had extreme experience with this stuff.
1:06:23SPEAKERAnyway, once she moved out of the area,
1:06:26SPEAKERand it's hard to, no offense,
1:06:28SPEAKERonce you've had that level of, you know.
1:06:31SPEAKER- Yeah, no.
1:06:33SPEAKER- We have not settled on a new pig sitting situation
1:06:36SPEAKERjust yet.
1:06:37SPEAKER- Well, I mean, I assume anybody who has
1:06:39SPEAKERany kind of like non-dog or cat pet,
1:06:42SPEAKERlike this is a common problem.
1:06:44SPEAKERLike you have to have somebody,
1:06:45SPEAKERlike if you have a bird or something,
1:06:46SPEAKERit's not like you can just take them
1:06:47SPEAKERto the normal boarding place.
1:06:48SPEAKER- Exotics, exotics are a whole thing
1:06:50SPEAKERwhen it comes to vets and care and like different,
1:06:53SPEAKERevery animal's, every species is different,
1:06:55SPEAKERbut piggy's health is very fragile.
1:06:58SPEAKER- Yeah, they seem a little delicate.
1:07:00SPEAKER- They can go from seemingly okay
1:07:03SPEAKERto life threatening in like 24 hours
1:07:05SPEAKERif all kinds of different stuff happens.
1:07:07SPEAKERSo you have to be kind of on your toes.
1:07:08SPEAKERAnd yes, there is a shortage of exotic vets
1:07:11SPEAKERin the city right now, and it's bad.
1:07:13SPEAKER- I, Brad, I like to watch the YouTube channels
1:07:16SPEAKERwith the pigs where they have like 50 pigs
1:07:20SPEAKERthat live in a pig barn.
1:07:22SPEAKER- It's pure joy.
1:07:23SPEAKER- It's very good.
1:07:24SPEAKER- That's really nothing negative
1:07:27SPEAKERabout a video of like 50 to a hundred pigs
1:07:30SPEAKERjust having a bunch of vegetables thrown in.
1:07:32SPEAKER- Yep, just chuck in a bucket,
1:07:34SPEAKERthey chuck in buckets of vegetables,
1:07:35SPEAKERmaybe a piece of watermelon or something,
1:07:37SPEAKERand the pigs go ham.
1:07:40SPEAKER- Unadulterated excitement, yes, the pigs go ham.
1:07:43SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:07:44SPEAKER- All right, one more, two more, two more quick ones.
1:07:47SPEAKER- We should do that email too, I think.
1:07:50SPEAKER- All right, let me do the email real quick.
1:07:51SPEAKERI forgot about that one from Sean.
1:07:54SPEAKERYou'll have to tell me what Azul is here.
1:07:56SPEAKERI picked up Azul for Christmas on your recommendation
1:07:59SPEAKERand it's become a big hit in our house.
1:08:00SPEAKERThe biggest fan besides myself is my six-year-old daughter
1:08:04SPEAKERwho pick up the mechanics and rules surprisingly quickly.
1:08:06SPEAKERDo you have any new games to recommend,
1:08:08SPEAKERespecially ones geared toward older players,
1:08:10SPEAKERbut maybe your daughter was able to pick up easily?
1:08:12SPEAKERAnother recommendation I have beyond Azul is King of Tokyo,
1:08:15SPEAKERwhich my daughter also picked up quickly
1:08:17SPEAKERdespite some more detailed rules.
1:08:20SPEAKERPS, do you think Azul could scale past four players
1:08:22SPEAKERof your body so I can copy?
1:08:24SPEAKER- So Azul is a board game.
1:08:26SPEAKERIt's a tile making board, a tile placement board game
1:08:29SPEAKERwhere you have to place, like the rules are basically
1:08:32SPEAKERlike you can put each, there's five different colors
1:08:35SPEAKERof tile and you put them on a five by five grid
1:08:38SPEAKERand you can't have two of the same color tile
1:08:40SPEAKERon the same row or same column.
1:08:43SPEAKERSo you like there's, and there's placement rules
1:08:46SPEAKERabout how it all works.
1:08:46SPEAKERIt's a, it is maybe my all time favorite board game.
1:08:50SPEAKERSo it's hard to, it's a hard follow up.
1:08:53SPEAKERFor games that a six year old can play,
1:08:57SPEAKERCatan Jr. is really good, is a big hit in the house.
1:09:02SPEAKERA six year old who's pretty good at spatial stuff
1:09:05SPEAKERcan play Carcassonne pretty easily,
1:09:07SPEAKERwhich is another classic, like you might have played
1:09:10SPEAKERthat on Xbox Arcade.
1:09:11SPEAKERThere's a really good iPad, like one of the things
1:09:13SPEAKERI like to do, especially for like wildly popular
1:09:15SPEAKERclassic games like Catan and Carcassonne
1:09:18SPEAKERand stuff like that is grab the iPad or console version
1:09:21SPEAKERfor like five bucks and you can try it out
1:09:23SPEAKERbefore you spend 40 bucks on the real deal.
1:09:27SPEAKERThe Seven Wonders, Seven Wonders is another good one
1:09:30SPEAKERfor adults, it's a, how do you describe it?
1:09:35SPEAKERYou basically are, you're collecting cards
1:09:40SPEAKERthat generate score in different ways.
1:09:42SPEAKERThere's like five different ways to get score,
1:09:44SPEAKERbut it's a drafting game in that one time, one hand,
1:09:49SPEAKERlike you pick a card from your hand
1:09:51SPEAKERand then you pass your hand to someone else
1:09:53SPEAKERand people have to keep, you keep passing your card around.
1:09:57SPEAKERSo it's kind of like, you have to kind of keep track
1:09:59SPEAKERof what's going on in the different,
1:10:02SPEAKERin everybody's hands as you play.
1:10:06SPEAKERThere's a kid friendly version of Seven Wonders
1:10:09SPEAKERcalled Seven Wonders Architects that simplifies
1:10:12SPEAKERthat a little bit because the keeping track
1:10:15SPEAKERof six different kinds of cards on a five player table
1:10:19SPEAKERis hard for small brains.
1:10:24SPEAKERSeven Wonders Architects simplifies that dramatically
1:10:26SPEAKERand it also shortens it.
1:10:27SPEAKERSo it's, the good thing about Seven Wonders
1:10:30SPEAKERis everybody plays at the same time,
1:10:31SPEAKERso you don't have to wait for people.
1:10:32SPEAKERIt's not like somebody has to decide what to do
1:10:34SPEAKERon their turn and then you're waiting.
1:10:36SPEAKERIt kind of works the same as Azul
1:10:37SPEAKERwhere you just play your moves very quickly.
1:10:42SPEAKERSeven Wonders Architects is a good version of that for kids.
1:10:45SPEAKERIt's relatively new.
1:10:46SPEAKERWe play that a lot with my daughter.
1:10:48SPEAKERSplendor is another really good game.
1:10:53SPEAKERThere's two layers of mechanics for that.
1:10:56SPEAKEROne is that you just score what's on the board
1:10:58SPEAKERand then the other is that there's some bonus cards.
1:11:00SPEAKERIf you take out the bonus cards for younger kids,
1:11:03SPEAKERit makes the game much more accessible.
1:11:04SPEAKERSo okay, so Seven Wonders for adults is fabulous,
1:11:09SPEAKERespecially if you're teaching people
1:11:10SPEAKERto play more complicated games.
1:11:12SPEAKERCatan Junior is great for kids.
1:11:14SPEAKERSeven Wonders Architects is great for kids.
1:11:17SPEAKERAnd then Jean and I have been playing a lot of Lost Cities,
1:11:20SPEAKERwhich is a head-to-head,
1:11:23SPEAKERlike all time best head-to-head game, I think.
1:11:28SPEAKER- That was a lot of information about board games.
1:11:29SPEAKERI'm impressed.
1:11:30SPEAKER- I play a lot of board games.
1:11:31SPEAKERI don't play as many as I used to,
1:11:33SPEAKERbut I still play quite a few.
1:11:34SPEAKERWe've kind of settled down into a handful
1:11:36SPEAKERand we'd be at one or two a year at most now.
1:11:39SPEAKER- Yeah, it seems expensive and also space consuming
1:11:41SPEAKERif you have a bajillion board games.
1:11:42SPEAKERThat's a lot of shelf space.
1:11:44SPEAKER- Yeah, I just pile them up on a desk
1:11:46SPEAKERin the corner of my office, which is not an ideal solution.
1:11:49SPEAKER- Or just buy enough of them to make a desk out of them.
1:11:52SPEAKER- I need to replace the extra desk with some shelves,
1:11:55SPEAKERI think, is the next step.
1:11:56SPEAKER- Shelves are good.
1:11:57SPEAKERStorage space is good.
1:11:58SPEAKERSitting in a basement right now
1:11:59SPEAKERin a house with a lot of storage space, boy.
1:12:02SPEAKER- I would love to have storage.
1:12:03SPEAKERI could use more storage space.
1:12:05SPEAKER- San Francisco houses,
1:12:06SPEAKERwe don't have enough storage space, it turns out.
1:12:08SPEAKER- Yep, I don't think I could,
1:12:10SPEAKERI could not buy a house without a basement.
1:12:12SPEAKERI don't think at this point.
1:12:15SPEAKERAll right.
1:12:15SPEAKER- We've got bad news about Bay Area houses, Brad.
1:12:17SPEAKER- Well, I've got some other bad news about Bay Area houses.
1:12:20SPEAKER- Oh, okay.
1:12:23SPEAKERLettitus is the last question here.
1:12:27SPEAKERIn the Wireguard segment,
1:12:28SPEAKERyou discussed the great use cases for a home VPN,
1:12:30SPEAKERlike protecting network traffic at an airport
1:12:32SPEAKERor internet cafe or extending your pie holes DNS
1:12:35SPEAKERand ad blocking when you're away from your home network.
1:12:38SPEAKERBut you didn't mention your strategy
1:12:39SPEAKERfor identifying your base IP address.
1:12:41SPEAKERDoes your ISP service come with a static IP?
1:12:46SPEAKERIf not, do you have a preference for domain name
1:12:48SPEAKERand provider and how do you keep the DDNS updated?
1:12:52SPEAKERAlso, thanks for the Ionic name drop in the EV trip talk,
1:12:55SPEAKERloving mine after three months and 3,500 gas-free miles.
1:13:00SPEAKER- I haven't met many Ionic drivers who don't like them yet.
1:13:03SPEAKERThat's always a good sign.
1:13:04SPEAKER- Yeah, that's, that seems promising.
1:13:06SPEAKERI'll let you go first.
1:13:07SPEAKERWhat do you, how do you,
1:13:08SPEAKERso what they're asking about here is
1:13:11SPEAKERif you have a VPN at home, when you're away from home,
1:13:14SPEAKERyou need to know your home IP address to connect to that VPN.
1:13:17SPEAKERAnd in theory, pretty much every internet provider out there
1:13:22SPEAKERif you're not paying for a static IP
1:13:24SPEAKERis going to assign you one dynamically that could change.
1:13:27SPEAKER- In practice, in practice on my last, I don't know,
1:13:30SPEAKERprobably two ISPs for like,
1:13:32SPEAKERI feel like it's been like a decade since my WAN IP,
1:13:35SPEAKERmy home IP public one actually changed
1:13:38SPEAKERon an internet provider, like kind of ever.
1:13:41SPEAKER- Yeah, my home IP hasn't changed in a really long time,
1:13:43SPEAKERbut I also have DuckDNS running on the home assistant.
1:13:47SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:13:48SPEAKER- So DuckDNS is a dynamic DNS provider.
1:13:50SPEAKERIt's free, it has less, let's encrypt support.
1:13:53SPEAKERSo you get encrypted DNS, it's pretty good.
1:13:59SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:14:00SPEAKER- You can set up a, like, I think if you want to pay
1:14:03SPEAKERfor a domain, a top domain of your choice, you can,
1:14:07SPEAKERor you can do like whatever DuckDNS.org
1:14:10SPEAKERor one of their, one of their domains,
1:14:11SPEAKERyou can do a subdomain of one of their domains.
1:14:13SPEAKER- Yeah, like DynDNS.org was the classic one
1:14:16SPEAKERthat you would see a ton back in the day.
1:14:18SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:14:19SPEAKER- And you're, you're assigning like, what is that?
1:14:21SPEAKERThe subdomain, I guess is the name for that.
1:14:23SPEAKERLike you, it would be like willsmith.duckdns.org.
1:14:26SPEAKER- That's it.
1:14:27SPEAKER- That's the address you're going to get.
1:14:27SPEAKERAnd those are free, like you said.
1:14:30SPEAKER- How'd you get my domain, Brad?
1:14:31SPEAKER- I had to think about it very hard.
1:14:36SPEAKERLike, like, like they suggested in here, you can get,
1:14:38SPEAKERyou can just go buy a domain name and use that.
1:14:41SPEAKERI've said before many times now,
1:14:43SPEAKERI feel like I'm shilling for them.
1:14:45SPEAKERPorkbun.com is a great registrar, is who I use.
1:14:49SPEAKERBut I use Namecheap's DNS service
1:14:51SPEAKERbecause it's free.
1:14:52SPEAKER- Oh, that's nice.
1:14:53SPEAKER- I have a domain that I, that I bought or registered.
1:14:56SPEAKERYou know, I don't use one of the, like, DNS ones.
1:14:58SPEAKER- Public facing one, yeah.
1:15:00SPEAKER- So I have my own domain that I use.
1:15:01SPEAKERI use Namecheap for their,
1:15:03SPEAKERthey have a free dynamic DNS server.
1:15:04SPEAKERI run it on my router.
1:15:05SPEAKERIt sounds like you run it on your home assistant.
1:15:07SPEAKER- Yeah, it's just, it's just a HACS add on
1:15:10SPEAKERfor home assistant.
1:15:12SPEAKER- My edge router, my, in fact,
1:15:14SPEAKERI think probably a lot of consumer routers
1:15:16SPEAKERhave dynamic DNS built into them at this point.
1:15:18SPEAKERYou can even run it on a Windows machine or a Mac.
1:15:21SPEAKERIt's just a tiny program that just updates DNS
1:15:23SPEAKERevery so often and says like,
1:15:25SPEAKER"Hey, this is the, this is still the numeric IP here
1:15:28SPEAKERthat you should map that domain to."
1:15:29SPEAKERThat's all it does.
1:15:30SPEAKERSo you can run that.
1:15:31SPEAKER- At this point-
1:15:31SPEAKER- You can run it on literally anything
1:15:32SPEAKERbehind your, your firewall.
1:15:34SPEAKER- My NAS will do this too.
1:15:36SPEAKERI, I like doing the Duck DNS home assistant plugin
1:15:39SPEAKERrather than using like, like,
1:15:42SPEAKERI don't have an ASUS router,
1:15:43SPEAKERbut if I had an ASUS router
1:15:44SPEAKERusing a ASUS's service or whatever,
1:15:45SPEAKERbecause it's more, a little bit more portable.
1:15:48SPEAKERSo I'm not stuck with the, like,
1:15:50SPEAKERlike I have a, I have a Duck DNS URL
1:15:52SPEAKERrather than a ASUS's backend URL
1:15:57SPEAKERor Netgear's backend URL or Synology's backend URL.
1:16:00SPEAKERSo if I change off of those pieces of hardware,
1:16:02SPEAKERI'm not boned.
1:16:04SPEAKERI don't actually, like the interesting thing is
1:16:07SPEAKERI use Nabucasa for the home assistant remote access.
1:16:11SPEAKERSo I'm not actually using,
1:16:12SPEAKERthe Duck DNS also provides Let's Encrypt certificate
1:16:15SPEAKERfor HTTPS communication to the, the home assistant instance.
1:16:21SPEAKERYou have to set that up manually, but it's worth doing.
1:16:24SPEAKERYou like, yeah.
1:16:27SPEAKERAnyway, it's the Let's Encrypt/Duck DNS combo was,
1:16:30SPEAKERit's, it's an easy way to get both
1:16:31SPEAKERof the dynamic DNS and the, and the SSL.
1:16:35SPEAKER- Yes, now the thing I wanted to ask about,
1:16:37SPEAKERwhich is it's whole, it's a, it's a whole other topic.
1:16:39SPEAKERIt's like a patron episode topic to dive into.
1:16:43SPEAKER- A, I've been thinking about running a reverse proxy
1:16:45SPEAKERat home for a long time.
1:16:47SPEAKERIf I ever actually had time to dig in
1:16:48SPEAKERand understand certificate authorities
1:16:50SPEAKERand how to set everything up.
1:16:53SPEAKER- What's the benefit of running a reverse proxy at home,
1:16:55SPEAKERBrad?
1:16:56SPEAKER- So reverse proxy would intercept all traffic
1:16:58SPEAKERto different services coming,
1:17:00SPEAKERtraffic coming into your land from outside
1:17:02SPEAKERand delegate the traffic internally to those.
1:17:06SPEAKERSo you only have to one, oh, I guess,
1:17:08SPEAKERI guess the biggest benefit that like everyone
1:17:10SPEAKERshould probably be able to identify with
1:17:12SPEAKERis you would only ever have to open one port
1:17:14SPEAKERto the reverse proxy and ultra traffic goes through that
1:17:16SPEAKERto, to it.
1:17:18SPEAKER- How does it know where to end up?
1:17:20SPEAKER- That's part of what I barely understand
1:17:22SPEAKERis that you have to set, you have to configure it to say,
1:17:25SPEAKERlike, well, so traffic would be coming to subdomains.
1:17:29SPEAKERSo like, I'm trying to think of a good example here.
1:17:31SPEAKER- Got it, so you'd have like a jelly fin
1:17:34SPEAKERand you'd have an SSL, you'd have an SSH
1:17:36SPEAKERand you'd have a.
1:17:37SPEAKER- So like traffic, if I understand correctly,
1:17:39SPEAKERso like traffic sent to jellyfin.brad.domain
1:17:42SPEAKERwould hit the reverse proxy.
1:17:44SPEAKERAnd then it would know that on that sub domain,
1:17:46SPEAKERit would send it along to the relevant thing.
1:17:49SPEAKEROne of the, one of the other, in fact,
1:17:50SPEAKERprobably the biggest benefit that I actually want,
1:17:53SPEAKERyou know how you've probably got,
1:17:54SPEAKERlike everybody's got a bunch of devices on their networks
1:17:56SPEAKERthat don't have valid certificates.
1:17:58SPEAKERSo every time you open their web interface,
1:17:59SPEAKERChrome or whatever complains and says,
1:18:01SPEAKERhey, this website might not be safe.
1:18:03SPEAKERLike you got to click through warnings
1:18:05SPEAKERbefore you can get to it.
1:18:07SPEAKERYou can set up certificates for all of those
1:18:08SPEAKERor maybe even just a certificate.
1:18:10SPEAKERThat's again, I don't understand super well yet.
1:18:13SPEAKER- So the problem.
1:18:13SPEAKER- So like that solves that, that basically,
1:18:16SPEAKERthat solves the like, hey, this website is not safe
1:18:18SPEAKERwhen it's just something running on your land thing.
1:18:20SPEAKERIt's a blanket way to fix that problem.
1:18:23SPEAKER- And then you set up that internal domain
1:18:25SPEAKERto be the domain to be the,
1:18:27SPEAKER'cause the problem often is that like,
1:18:28SPEAKERlike if I set up the DuckDNS,
1:18:30SPEAKERthe certificate for the DuckDNS URL,
1:18:33SPEAKERit works when I'm outside,
1:18:34SPEAKERbut it errors out when I do the inside private address
1:18:37SPEAKERbecause the certificate doesn't match.
1:18:39SPEAKER- Yes, now here's the thing I actually want to ask,
1:18:43SPEAKERand hopefully the network, the networking channel,
1:18:45SPEAKERabsolutely on the Discord will have answers for this
1:18:47SPEAKER'cause people really know their shit in there.
1:18:50SPEAKERNow I'm wondering if you could set up the reverse proxy
1:18:52SPEAKERon a remote instance, like a virtual private server
1:18:56SPEAKERand run the dynamic DNS on that.
1:18:59SPEAKER- You'd have to VPN everything into that remote server.
1:19:01SPEAKER- That's my question.
1:19:02SPEAKERYou would then have to tunnel everything
1:19:04SPEAKERfrom the VPS to your home, right?
1:19:05SPEAKERAnd I assume you'd probably use WireGuard
1:19:07SPEAKERor something like that for that.
1:19:08SPEAKER- Yeah, but there's gonna be performance implications.
1:19:11SPEAKER- That's the question is if it's worth doing,
1:19:13SPEAKERif it would actually hinder the throughput enough to matter.
1:19:16SPEAKERI mean, the big advantage there is then people
1:19:19SPEAKERcan't just get your home IP.
1:19:20SPEAKER- It's probably fine for everything,
1:19:22SPEAKERbut I wouldn't run games through that, I guess.
1:19:24SPEAKER- Or even, I don't even know
1:19:25SPEAKERabout video streaming actually, maybe,
1:19:28SPEAKERbut that's the privacy would be the big advantage there
1:19:31SPEAKERis that when people did a lookup on your domain,
1:19:35SPEAKERthey would get the IP of the VPS,
1:19:36SPEAKERnot the IP of your router at home.
1:19:39SPEAKERSo it's kind of extra layer of obfuscation.
1:19:41SPEAKERBut again, I don't know
1:19:42SPEAKERif that's actually worth pursuing or not.
1:19:44SPEAKER- I think it's better to just security
1:19:46SPEAKERthrough obscurity or demand.
1:19:48SPEAKER- If you, let's say you've streamed a lot of video
1:19:51SPEAKERon the internet and occasionally your domain ends up
1:19:54SPEAKERon there.
1:19:56SPEAKERSee, it's a specialized use case.
1:19:59SPEAKERIt's not something everybody needs to worry about.
1:20:01SPEAKER- Yeah, I can see how that would be a problem.
1:20:03SPEAKER- Yes.
1:20:04SPEAKER- Yeah.
1:20:05SPEAKER- I've had my old domain show up on there before.
1:20:08SPEAKERAnd so I've changed all that stuff out.
1:20:12SPEAKERAnyway.
1:20:13SPEAKER- Yeah, that's a dilly of a pickle.
1:20:17SPEAKER- Yeah, it'll be fun.
1:20:18SPEAKERWe'll talk to people on the discord,
1:20:19SPEAKERwhich is a great place to come and talk to people
1:20:21SPEAKERwho know a lot about stuff like that.
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1:21:33SPEAKER- Yeah, thank you.
1:21:35SPEAKERThank you for listening.
1:21:35SPEAKERBe proud all about network stuff endlessly.
1:21:38SPEAKER- Yeah, and I'm curious at what people,
1:21:42SPEAKERI'd love to get feedback from patrons
1:21:45SPEAKERabout how they like the new forum structure
1:21:48SPEAKERfor this week's episodes.
1:21:49SPEAKERWe did that specifically 'cause people who maybe listen
1:21:53SPEAKERa few weeks behind often feel like they miss out
1:21:55SPEAKERon the conversations about the episodes.
1:21:59SPEAKERAnd now they're nice and segregated from each other.
1:22:01SPEAKERSo you can go in and just kind of scroll.
1:22:03SPEAKERI mean, look, the official forum motto is never scroll up.
1:22:07SPEAKERBut sometimes if you want to hear what people said
1:22:09SPEAKERabout the old episodes, you can scroll up.
1:22:11SPEAKERThat's fine in that context.
1:22:12SPEAKERAnd now you can be in the appropriate context
1:22:15SPEAKERfor the episode.
1:22:16SPEAKERSo please post maybe in this week's episode forum
1:22:18SPEAKERand let us know what you think.
1:22:20SPEAKERAnd if you don't see the forums, restart Discord
1:22:22SPEAKERand they'll pop up for you.
1:22:23SPEAKERThat seems to be fixing that for most people.
1:22:25SPEAKER- Yes, also a quick thank you to Cake batter.
1:22:29SPEAKERMy Discord time has been limited
1:22:30SPEAKERwhile I've been out of town, but he wrote a bot.
1:22:33SPEAKER- Oh.
1:22:33SPEAKER- That is going to auto create a thread every week
1:22:36SPEAKERfor each new episode.
1:22:37SPEAKER- Oh, that's fabulous.
1:22:38SPEAKERI didn't know that that was actually,
1:22:40SPEAKERlast I saw that was a, you know,
1:22:42SPEAKERsomebody could create a bot.
1:22:43SPEAKER- Yes, he went and did it.
1:22:45SPEAKERI have not had a chance to look at it
1:22:46SPEAKERor figure out how to set it up.
1:22:48SPEAKERNo, no, I think we have to do it.
1:22:50SPEAKER- Yeah, no, I do.
1:22:51SPEAKEROkay, I'll reach out then.
1:22:52SPEAKER- Yeah, so it seems very Docker centric.
1:22:55SPEAKERI think he wrapped it in a Docker configuration
1:22:57SPEAKERand it's probably time for me to learn more about that.
1:23:00SPEAKERSo I might, I might hit him up and.
1:23:02SPEAKER- Okay, I can put it on the,
1:23:03SPEAKERit's easy for me to check it on the Synology too.
1:23:05SPEAKERI have a Docker setup there these days.
1:23:09SPEAKER- Anyway, thank you for doing that.
1:23:10SPEAKERThat should, hopefully we'll just get a nice thread
1:23:12SPEAKERright along with the episode post every week.
1:23:14SPEAKER- That's awesome.
1:23:15SPEAKERSo, and I think a shout out to, I think Fortune.
1:23:23SPEAKERI want to say Fortune.
1:23:24SPEAKERNo, Wedge, Wedge and Fortune.
1:23:25SPEAKERMostly Fortune did the setup,
1:23:28SPEAKERpulled in a bunch of old episodes
1:23:30SPEAKERwhen we sent those sort of forums
1:23:31SPEAKERand did a bunch of the mod work there.
1:23:33SPEAKERSo thanks to Fortune for that.
1:23:34SPEAKER- Yes.
1:23:35SPEAKER- But thank you to all of our patrons,
1:23:38SPEAKERbut especially our executive producer tier patrons,
1:23:40SPEAKERincluding Andrew Slosky.
1:23:42SPEAKERBunnyfiend is now an annual member
1:23:43SPEAKERof the Make People Say Things Club.
1:23:47SPEAKERYou get, you get, you save some money
1:23:48SPEAKERif you go to an annual sub rather than a monthly, just FYI.
1:23:52SPEAKERPaddle Creek Games Makers of Fractured Vale,
1:23:54SPEAKERDavid Allen, James Kamik, Joel Krauska, Jordan Lippett,
1:23:57SPEAKERJust Wedge 3.0, Nick Johnston,
1:24:00SPEAKERPantheon Makers of the HS3 High Speed 3D Printer,
1:24:04SPEAKERand Twinkle Twinkie.
1:24:05SPEAKERThank you all so much.
1:24:06SPEAKERAnd also thank you to our associate producer tier patrons,
1:24:10SPEAKERincluding Alejandro Navarro, Andre M. Burke,
1:24:13SPEAKERArthur Gies, Ben Tolman, Dave Ullian, Eric,
1:24:16SPEAKEREric Frey, Eric Klein.
1:24:18SPEAKERWe're three Eric's deep now.
1:24:19SPEAKERThat's a lot of Eric's.
1:24:21SPEAKERGraham Banks, Jad Rita, Jason Rooney the ref,
1:24:24SPEAKERMatt Walker, parentheses Walkman 8080, close parentheses,
1:24:28SPEAKERNathan Phelps, Sanchik Kumar, Steve Lin,
1:24:31SPEAKERThomas Shea, and Tom Hilton.
1:24:32SPEAKERThank you all so much.
1:24:34SPEAKER- Yes, thank you.
1:24:34SPEAKERRight now, how many Eric's do you think we can get?
1:24:37SPEAKERWhat if we just, maybe every Eric who listens
1:24:39SPEAKERshould sign up just to see if we can set the record
1:24:41SPEAKERfor most Eric's. - Just gonna slap
1:24:43SPEAKERthis podcast and see how many Eric's we can fit in here.
1:24:45SPEAKERYou can fit so many Eric's in here.
1:24:47SPEAKER- That's right.
1:24:48SPEAKERBut yeah, yes, thank you.
1:24:48SPEAKERThank you to everyone.
1:24:49SPEAKER- I expected, I expected more Dan's, honestly,
1:24:51SPEAKERif I was, if I was being honest.
1:24:54SPEAKERBut yeah, thank you all so much.
1:24:55SPEAKERAnd we will be back next week with another episode
1:24:57SPEAKERof The Tech Pod.
1:24:59SPEAKERHave a lovely week.
1:24:59SPEAKERWe'll see you then.
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