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139: Grill Drama Is Real Drama

2022-06-12 · 51:26

00:00SPEAKEROkay. I've got the international cold open handbook right here. I'm gonna rifle. Let's see if I can rifle through to okay section three

00:08SPEAKERsubheading be

00:10SPEAKERYes

00:13SPEAKERLegitimate allowable frequency of cold open episodes. Uh-huh. I didn't realize that this was an IEEE standard

00:19SPEAKERI'm kind of surprised by this. Are you sure this is an ISO or IEEE? What are we looking at here?

00:23SPEAKERI you know what? I'm just throw this handbook in the trash make our own rules. All right

00:28SPEAKERI think it's been about six months. I think it's been oh no

00:33SPEAKERIt's been you did that last you've gotta stop doing this. Do it last week. Really? I think I guess. Oh, no

00:40SPEAKERGotta change up your material. Oh crap in my mind. It was early December mid December was the last one of these

00:46SPEAKERI think it was December 19th 2021 if I recall I remember it like it was yesterday

00:51SPEAKERI'm looking at the show notes right now. We talked about making eggnog

00:54SPEAKERThis was before I went to the hospital. Oh, wow. This was the last one before I went to the hospital

00:59SPEAKERThe next one the next day after this one aired. I think I remember it like it was yesterday and so does your gallbladder

01:04SPEAKERYeah, well, no, not anymore. My gallbladder is in a lab someplace

01:07SPEAKEROh is that I was about to ask what do you think happens to unwanted organs that are I?

01:12SPEAKERAsked if I could have it and they were like, no, we're gonna look at it. No, it's like, okay. It's like research hospital

01:17SPEAKERI was like, okay

01:18SPEAKERHang on

01:19SPEAKERDo you think they're done with it by now or is this like the gallbladder that's gonna hang out in the jar for the next?

01:22SPEAKERHundred years. I don't know. What are you saying?

01:25SPEAKERI'm like a Henrietta Lacks like they're using my gallbladder for science from here on out for the next hundred years

01:30SPEAKERI would believe that about you. I mean I am full of bile. I

01:35SPEAKERGuess less so now well time for a cold open episode. No

01:39SPEAKERYeah, I guess I kind of like the idea of a winter a cold open and a summer cold open episode

01:44SPEAKERI think for whatever reason we've decided that about every six months is

01:48SPEAKERthe most often we can get away with I yeah, I think for the level of indulgence and all cold open episode is I feel like

01:55SPEAKEREvery six months is the most frequently we can do it without feeling bad about ourselves

01:59SPEAKERYeah, it's got a got to hang on to it and deploy it at the right moment

02:02SPEAKERI had to plug in the air conditioner yesterday, which I think is the official start of summer in the Bay Area and

02:09SPEAKERYeah, it was it was been beastly hot here by Bay Area standards. So like 72 73

02:14SPEAKERI had to turn off the air conditioning so we could record this podcast and me too. I'm just stewing it over here

02:20SPEAKERWhich oh gosh, okay. Well on that note, this is the hottest cold open episode. Apparently we better get on with it

02:34SPEAKERBrad I experienced a small tiny taste of living in a computerized hellscape this week

02:40SPEAKERWait, aren't we all experiencing that every day? I mean look there's the very online sometimes

02:45SPEAKERI'm envious of the not very online extremely online. I think is it my god. Can you imagine?

02:50SPEAKERI'm still on this trip out here where I'm interacting with people constantly who like barely

02:55SPEAKERStarted say barely know what the internet is. That's not true because everybody knows what the internet is these days

02:58SPEAKERBut in the course of their daily occupation, yeah, they don't interact with the internet like at all

03:04SPEAKERAnd that sounds kind of nice sometimes

03:07SPEAKERSeems like bliss. It's it's it's it's got to be like living in a world

03:13SPEAKERLike like there's layers of the world that you're aware of right and we're aware of the good one where real life happens

03:19SPEAKERAnd then the bad one where internet bullshit happens. Mm-hmm. I think this is optional, but I don't know how to stop now

03:27SPEAKERWhere are we going? Okay, so I

03:30SPEAKERHad I got shadow banned from a major payment processor

03:35SPEAKERWow, okay something that I didn't do for a crime. I didn't commit

03:40SPEAKERYeah, you're you're backing into the subject from a different direction than I thought you were going to but go on

03:45SPEAKEROkay

03:45SPEAKERSo I had to do some business

03:48SPEAKERTransactions with one of our business ass business accounts and the payment process they used a payment processor called stripe

03:54SPEAKERWhich you all have used a lot

03:56SPEAKERFor a lot like like it's it's very popular for like small

04:00SPEAKERBusinesses who just want to get a paper credit the ability to take credit cards without a lot of hassle, right?

04:06SPEAKERAnd it's generally this is not something that the user is gonna interact with directly, right?

04:09SPEAKERI really you're not gonna know you're using stripe, right? You're just gonna the page your vendor and they use stripe on the back end

04:14SPEAKERSo usually the payment page says powered by stripe or something like that on it somewhere, but that's the extent of your knowledge

04:21SPEAKERYeah, it's not like you have a stripe account that you log into all the time

04:24SPEAKERYou don't have a stripe account which turns out is the problem, huh?

04:28SPEAKERso

04:30SPEAKERYou they associate your credit card with an email address with the email address that's associated with the account that you used

04:36SPEAKERAnd every time you try to use that email address to buy something it says

04:41SPEAKERHey, do you want me to send a note and will blah blah blah and you get an email now?

04:44SPEAKERMy email is a famous person's first name and last name

04:47SPEAKERonce again hoses me on

04:51SPEAKERShould I say at a popular look provider?

04:54SPEAKERFor who knew when I signed up for Gmail in 2003 that it was going to become the default email service for the entire goddamn

05:01SPEAKERworld

05:02SPEAKERSo dip shits and fraudulent fraudulent people put in my email address when they're trying to scam free shit from from companies

05:10SPEAKERWow, so they don't have my credit card information

05:12SPEAKERThey don't have access to my credit card information because they don't like there's no password. There's no account

05:16SPEAKERBut when they put that email, it's like hey, do you want to hit the button to do the fast charge?

05:21SPEAKERJust here's we'll send you a code and then you type that six digit code in and you don't have to type your credit card

05:25SPEAKERAnd it's very convenient for normal people

05:28SPEAKERnow a

05:30SPEAKERFew months ago stripe quietly to vendors launched this thing called stripe radar, which is a machine learning and behavior enhanced

05:37SPEAKERfilter for fraudulent behavior and

05:41SPEAKERGuess what happened all of the dip shits who have been putting my email address in on their fraudulent transactions

05:48SPEAKERBasically got me blacklisted from using stripe

05:52SPEAKERBut there's no error message for it. It doesn't say hey, you have a stripe radar problem

05:55SPEAKERIt just says yo your cards declined, but then when you call your cart vendor

05:59SPEAKERthey're like, we didn't see any charges from from stripe or from the vendor in question at all and

06:05SPEAKERGuess what stripes customer support line is for customers people who are trying to make charges through their platform

06:10SPEAKERWhat is their customer support line fuck off? They have no oh

06:15SPEAKERLike it literally there's literally a thing on the site says yo, we don't do customer support for customers

06:19SPEAKERYou got to contact your vendor directly, you know, that is seven characters 1-800 fuck off

06:24SPEAKERProbably exists. We can't use that as an episode title. No

06:29SPEAKERso, okay, so I

06:31SPEAKERCalled the vendors and they were like, well, you're clearly a dirtbag who has all your credit cards are being decline

06:36SPEAKERI was like they're all from different banks

06:38SPEAKERThe only thing in common is that the account?

06:40SPEAKERLike when you when you sign up for your account on their site, it passes the email address through to stripe

06:47SPEAKERAnd of course the vendors in charge in question, I couldn't change the email address on for reasons we don't need to get into anyway

06:53SPEAKERI did what you have to do when you have a quarter million Twitter followers and shits not working, right?

06:58SPEAKERThere's no hope and he right I complained on Twitter you debased yourself

07:03SPEAKERWell, I know some people who work there. So I just added that I didn't I didn't I didn't like do the yo stripe

07:09SPEAKERYou're fucking me thing. I just added the people who used to work there was like, hey, do you know anybody you can point me to?

07:16SPEAKERAbout three hours later. I got an email from somebody from an at stripe comm address was like hey

07:20SPEAKERWe looked at your problem and you were absolutely right. You did get like you are on the bad list

07:26SPEAKERI was like, is there any way to get off of that was like we can take care of it for you

07:29SPEAKERI was like what like if I was a normal person

07:31SPEAKERIs there any way to get off this and they'd know we you'd have to talk to our PR department for that

07:34SPEAKERI was like, do you have a PR department like we'll refer you over and haven't heard anything back

07:37SPEAKERSo, all right if this ever happens, okay

07:40SPEAKERSo to TLDR don't use don't use your first name last name for stripe

07:44SPEAKERProbably good a good address for email addresses that go to stripe

07:47SPEAKERMaybe don't use your first name last name for any email address ever. Who knows? That's that's that you know, I

07:53SPEAKERHere I am talking about my opsec or my info sec

07:55SPEAKERWhich is probably the worst thing you could do but I I switched to an email address that is it's not exactly gibberish

08:00SPEAKERBut it's kind of close is pronounceable

08:03SPEAKERBut yeah, so this is for like, you know accounts for stuff like you're talking about

08:07SPEAKERBut then like when that pops up on like an iMessage or something now to somebody if it doesn't fill in their contact

08:13SPEAKERso they you know, so they see my name instead of the email address like

08:16SPEAKERThey completely flip out

08:18SPEAKERLike they think they were being scammed

08:19SPEAKERI've had family members who thought they were getting some kind of scam message because it came from this like

08:24SPEAKERghastly looking email address that they couldn't read so I do the same thing I have I literally opened up one password and had it

08:29SPEAKERGenerate of like a multi-word phrase and use that as an email as a new email address

08:33SPEAKERthat's like the the ultimate lockdown gmail thing the

08:39SPEAKERYou can set iMessage should not use your email address as

08:43SPEAKERThough is the phone number is the phone number or you can set it to use any other email address associated with your account

08:48SPEAKEROh, I thought it had to be the email on your Apple account

08:51SPEAKERI typically do have it set to use my phone number

08:53SPEAKERBut it seems like that setting doesn't always survive various processes

08:56SPEAKERIt gets jacked up on my eye and I used to get jacked up on the iPad for me all the time

09:00SPEAKERyes, that's specifically the issue but yeah, you can that's a fixable problem and you can add new addresses if you want to have one of

09:06SPEAKERYour other addresses attached to it because for obvious reasons, I can't use my gmail as my email address for iMessage either

09:12SPEAKERBecause people yes, okay question

09:16SPEAKERHow many of those scammers when they put in that email address trying to scam?

09:20SPEAKEROh, do you think had bearded be spectacled will Smith in mind and not the other wills?

09:27SPEAKER0.1%

09:29SPEAKERthat's probably yeah, also I was just talking to our accountants and

09:34SPEAKERthey happen to notice that hey the

09:37SPEAKERLet's say the administrative entity that we are talking about here. Mm-hmm on an accountant

09:41SPEAKERBut another one of the other umpteen things you have to deal with that so the government allows you to have a company

09:46SPEAKERYeah, right the accountants were like, hey, I just checked your so-and-so and they haven't filed the so-and-so yet

09:51SPEAKERI need to get back to them relay this entire story to them and be like, yeah, we're changing that we're working on it, man

09:58SPEAKERIt's you know, when there's somebody who's supposed to help you do business accuses you of being some kind of like deadbeat fraudster

10:04SPEAKERMight be time to go elsewhere. I went elsewhere. We went elsewhere. We don't work with those people anymore. Anyway

10:09SPEAKERYeah, good talk

10:18SPEAKEROkay at this point I'm gonna say I have vanquished the notch you've learned to accept it and love it and become one with it

10:24SPEAKERoh, I defeated it I I

10:27SPEAKERFaced it in battle electrical tape over the top 20 pixels of your screen

10:32SPEAKERWe've talked about it. I'm using top-notch. It's just it's I can't see it. So it might as well not be there

10:39SPEAKERMy second half 2022 New Year's resolution is to never speak of the notch again

10:44SPEAKERNo, I thought this was just a lead-in to introduce you to my new nemesis

10:48SPEAKEROh, no, you have another problem on this laptop, which is how the fuck do you clean the keyboard on this MacBook?

10:54SPEAKERWelcome to the Brad's neuroses hour. Wait, why don't can't you just put like a duster run a duster over it or something?

10:59SPEAKERWell, so so they have finally made it so that you can never turn these laptops off. Wait, what?

11:04SPEAKERBut how long is it been since you owned a MacBook?

11:06SPEAKER2015

11:07SPEAKEROkay, so were they having the laptop boot as soon as you opened the lid? No, it's not a power button

11:13SPEAKEROkay, so yes as of see I had a let's see I was issued a 2020

11:17SPEAKERI think model MacBook Pro from work an x86 one still and it did that

11:22SPEAKERThere was a way to do some to set some like p-lists or I know I forget what level of security you were messing with

11:28SPEAKERBut you could disable the behavior on these m1 MacBooks. You cannot like they they will never not boot as soon as you open the lid

11:36SPEAKERCan you know just turn the keyboard on and off? How wait, how do I do that?

11:40SPEAKERHuh?

11:42SPEAKERThere's a tool called keyboard clean tool that you guys all trust me

11:46SPEAKERI flipped I looked into like hey, how do you disable the key?

11:49SPEAKERBut sometimes you just want to wipe the keyboard down and not have it input a bunch of crap

11:55SPEAKERAnd you can't do that

11:56SPEAKERNo, well, I mean I could do it on the lock screen

11:58SPEAKERBut I don't know something makes me feel like if I accidentally enter too much random text too many times into that login field something

12:04SPEAKERBad might happen. Well, but so I've done so having as a young child

12:08SPEAKERI got myself locked on my phone for like five hours one day when she was typing the passcode in wrong over and over and

12:15SPEAKERover again

12:15SPEAKERMm-hmm

12:16SPEAKERIt escalates so that in order to get to the point that it nukes the device

12:20SPEAKERIt's like a 10-day cooldown or something like that

12:23SPEAKERWow, yeah

12:24SPEAKERYeah, so it's like each one takes long you have a bigger timeout from one to the next to the next until you like it

12:30SPEAKERYou know, it's it's the it's the put one grain on the first square of the chessboard and put two grains on the second

12:35SPEAKERYeah, it's an exponential increase. Okay, so it takes a while for it to be permanent or maybe it's never permanent

12:39SPEAKERNo, it's a well you can set it to be permanent eventually, but it escalates more and more

12:44SPEAKEROkay, the so eventually you won't be able to put a new passcode in for a couple hours

12:50SPEAKERWhich should be more than enough time to clean your keyboard. Yeah, that's fair. I'll let you mention

12:55SPEAKERYeah, okay fine. I'll just clean it. Oh, look sometimes keyboard gets grody occasionally

13:00SPEAKERYou want to just get a little 70% isopropyl Gina Gina got this awesome work Gina got this awesome blue

13:06SPEAKERIt's like a blue fluffy duster that I use for keyboards and like like things that have a lot of crevices and has a million

13:12SPEAKERLittle tendrils that go everywhere. It's really rad

13:15SPEAKERNow that you mentioned it

13:16SPEAKERI've still I've got a Windows Phone in fact of the Windows Phone you gave me

13:19SPEAKERMm-hmm and an old Android phone that are both on like their last attempt to input the passcode before they are locked out forever. Oh

13:27SPEAKERBoth sitting in a drawer. Do you have any ideas?

13:29SPEAKERUh, I bet the Windows Phone is crackable at this point. Oh you think so?

13:33SPEAKERmaybe there's probably an exploit for the Android phone too because it's ancient that is

13:38SPEAKERLike three four years old Android probably it's the one before you got the iPhone 6 right II or a between the six and eight

13:45SPEAKERI think it's probably about a four or five year old Android phone

13:49SPEAKERIt's LG something that might be harder to get into but the yeah the Windows Phone

13:53SPEAKERI bet is exploit city if somebody if anybody cares enough to to exploit those

13:58SPEAKERBut might be a big if you could be playing hexic right now

14:08SPEAKERSo I got a text the other day and I was like, oh this is an obvious phishing attempt your data plan

14:14SPEAKERYou're running out of data on your data plan. You only have 10% left and you have 15 days to go

14:19SPEAKERMm-hmm. And then I got another one that was like, hey your data plan is almost out

14:24SPEAKERAnd then it was this really suspicious looking link that I was supposed to click that was supposed to add more data or change my plan

14:29SPEAKEROr something from Verizon from my from my phone provider. I

14:33SPEAKERWas like I'm not gonna click that that's an obvious phishing attempt. Look, it's gibberish. This is no way

14:37SPEAKERthis is the actual message and

14:39SPEAKERThen I got the message was like hey, we're charging you 15 bucks a gigabyte for data now because you're using data

14:45SPEAKERand so I was like

14:48SPEAKERokay, and we talked to Gina and see if she's done something and

14:52SPEAKERWhen we went camping

14:54SPEAKERShe turned Wi-Fi off. Oh, oh no, and the second day turned Wi-Fi back on and that was undesired behavior

15:01SPEAKERso she said it to turn off forever and

15:03SPEAKERThen didn't realize that it had been off for a week. Ouch 25 gigabytes of data. Ouch

15:10SPEAKERThere's a lot of streaming video. What are we talking here? Maybe I should maybe I should not ask about your wife's data usage habits

15:18SPEAKERAre you familiar with the tick talks? Uh-huh. Tick-tock is very popular in our house right now. Mm-hmm. I see

15:25SPEAKERI believe that it was a lot of tick-tock, but I'm I did not ask I found it if I find it's best not to ask

15:31SPEAKERThose sorts of questions. Well, that was money. Well spent. Do you know how much you got charged?

15:35SPEAKERWas it did you only eat into the first gigabyte before you we we have eaten into the first gigabyte?

15:41SPEAKERWe have seven days to go at this point. So we are approaching as long as we don't leave the house much

15:46SPEAKERI think we'll be fine

15:48SPEAKERI'm surprised you guys aren't on like so I when I just changed phones like a month ago and

15:52SPEAKERThe course of that also that was an interesting process

15:55SPEAKERWe maybe we won't get into it the iPhone SE 3 that I got has an e Sam in it

16:00SPEAKERMm-hmm. Do you have a phone with a nice? Oh, yeah

16:01SPEAKERI should thank him for a while

16:03SPEAKERLike the idea of like having to go through their web page to transfer service to the new phone instead of just popping a little

16:08SPEAKERCard out was kind of interesting and weird

16:11SPEAKERAnyway, they yeah

16:12SPEAKERThey every single step of the way they tried to upsell me to some kind of unlimited data plan

16:16SPEAKERThe first was like $30 worth of what I'm paying but I'm surprised you guys aren't on I mean, I'm sure you're all sharing, right?

16:21SPEAKERWell, so we have a shared 16 gig plan with rollover or carry. They call it carryover. Yes, and we had

16:28SPEAKER20-something gigs of carryover data until very recently, uh-huh

16:32SPEAKERThat is a lot of to know is a shared 8 gig plan with with like 25 gigs of carryover and now we don't have that

16:37SPEAKERanymore for reasons that we

16:40SPEAKERrecently covered

16:43SPEAKERAnd my daughter doesn't use data like she has a watch but that's it and it doesn't use very much data at all so

16:51SPEAKERWait, hang on. Yeah, are you saying that the tick-tock usage was entirely your wife's 100%? Oh, wow

16:56SPEAKEROkay, if I served it was like some mother-daughter bonding over

17:00SPEAKERYes, there's a lot of tick-tock

17:02SPEAKERLike I don't know if you if you spent if you probably haven't spent very much time and like I like tick-tock a lot

17:07SPEAKERI think tick-tock is a cool thing. I think I think if you tick-tock gives you more of whatever you watch

17:14SPEAKERSo like okay sure for example when I first got tick-tock I accidentally I didn't realize it would keep running

17:19SPEAKERIf I didn't close the app and I just set my phone down on the desk facing down with like this

17:24SPEAKERAlabama muddin video in the running indefinitely

17:28SPEAKERSo for a long time tick-tock thought that I really really really was into like people taking four by fours and getting them buried in

17:35SPEAKERMud and then having to pull them out with excavators and stuff. I mean, I would believe you're into the hats

17:39SPEAKERI mean look there's a certain appeal to watching dumbasses get stuck in the mud and have to have smart people come pull them out

17:45SPEAKERYes

17:45SPEAKERI will not deny that but

17:47SPEAKERThere are some secondary knock-on effects to that in that they thought I also liked other things that other people to watch those videos like like

17:53SPEAKERmisogynist jokes and you know borderline abusive relationship advice

17:58SPEAKERSo yeah, like just down home stuff, you know

18:01SPEAKERYeah, I had to like I do appreciate it to get a real good crawdad boil guy out of that

18:07SPEAKEROkay, then those are like it's fun to watch like he's like dumps in

18:12SPEAKERfive gallon drywall mud buckets full of like corn and and potatoes and

18:17SPEAKERCrawdads and then puts him into this big thing and then he tips it over and dumps it out onto a tarp and it looks

18:23SPEAKERPretty good. I would eat that

18:24SPEAKERBut I think maybe you should you should just take your phones all of your phones and the watch

18:29SPEAKERLock them in the fire safe for the next seven days. You really can't be too careful

18:33SPEAKERYeah, that's an interesting idea. We could just go dark

18:43SPEAKERI've written here in the notes contentious grilling scenario because that's exactly what occurred last night. We had that at the camping trip

18:50SPEAKERReally? Oh, yeah, because it's like six families all making dinner and there's only a limited number of grills

18:54SPEAKERBut there's an infinite supply of men. Oh was in your case

18:57SPEAKERwas it just like the competition over grill space like just jockeying for a position there was a

19:03SPEAKERLet's let's just say people were chill about it. But like everybody wanted to cook the protein. Mm-hmm. I

19:12SPEAKERLover of a latte and grilled corn was like I will grill 40 ears of corn. Here we go. Let's dance

19:18SPEAKERThat sounds pretty fun. Yeah, it was okay

19:22SPEAKERIn my case we were grilling some skewers. Mm-hmm. Some of them were chicken

19:27SPEAKERLet's just say that there is maybe a difference in philosophy between those who believe in the internal meat thermometer

19:33SPEAKERThose who just like to grill by feel

19:36SPEAKERwhoa

19:38SPEAKERHmm. Were you trying to stick all the kabobs? No, just just just like the thickest piece

19:42SPEAKERI mean, but you can tell like you can use the you know, the the meteor thumb thing, right?

19:48SPEAKERRemember now that I see you doing that with the beat of the thumb thing. Yes, I it's been

19:53SPEAKERLook, we've talked about this, right? I had to surrender my grill like four years ago

19:57SPEAKERWhy'd you have to surrender your grill when when my landlord started actually?

20:01SPEAKEREnforcing the city ordinance that I can't have a grill out there on the deck. Have we never talked about this?

20:06SPEAKEROh, no, dude. My grill has been in the garage of our building since

20:10SPEAKER2018 or something, but

20:12SPEAKERJust roll it out on the sidewalk. No, it's wood. We have a little tiny little wooden deck off the back of our place

20:17SPEAKEROh, I didn't know that and San Francisco says no open flame on wooden construction

20:22SPEAKERThat seems like a good it that like generally good it but you know

20:25SPEAKERYou could roll the grill out on the sidewalk and have a little bit of a sidewalk grilling wait out front of the building

20:30SPEAKERI used to do that. It was fun. You make friends with the neighbors and stuff. Okay, I guess I may be is it

20:35SPEAKERHold on is it charcoal or gas? It's gas

20:38SPEAKERSo you have a you have a bomb in your garage is what you're telling me. Basically. Yes, actually that you mentioned it

20:44SPEAKERI should probably check that propane tank. Yeah, those things don't last forever, man

20:48SPEAKERanyway

20:49SPEAKERLet's say that the internal temperature of the chicken never got anywhere near 165 as I could tell

20:55SPEAKERYeah, I don't like a rare chicken

20:58SPEAKERSo you tell me but let's let's say other parties were insistent that the chicken was done. So, okay

21:04SPEAKERI'll eat a I'll eat a medium rare or even a rare pork chop if it's a nice thick one

21:10SPEAKERYou know something that's not seen. Oh, wait pork chop. I thought you were gonna say steak. No

21:15SPEAKERYou know, like I look I'm telling you a 135 pork chop delish a fan of trichinosis around here

21:21SPEAKERDo you know how many cases of trichinosis they've been that have been attributed to pork in the last hundred years?

21:26SPEAKERNo, none really all the trichinosis comes from game meat and wild boar

21:31SPEAKERSo commercially raised pork, there's no trichinosis. It's not an issue

21:35SPEAKERInteresting. You've been overcooking your pork for a disease that hasn't existed in a hundred years. Thanks. Okay. Well

21:41SPEAKERAnyway, the but but like a medium-rare brine pork chop with 135 pork chops delish medium-rare chicken

21:48SPEAKERThat's gonna be a no for me dog. Yeah

21:50SPEAKERLook, there is one meat that you do not mess about with and it is chicken. I will eat the chicken

21:56SPEAKERLike I might not get it all the way to 165

21:59SPEAKERBut but like while it's on the fire because it'll go up a few degrees

22:02SPEAKERMaybe not kebabs but like a chicken breast will go up from 160 to 165 when you take off the grill while it's right

22:07SPEAKERAs it rests, right? Yeah, but like a kebab, I mean, there's no there's nothing to it

22:12SPEAKERJust yeah, just put a little heat on that thing man. That's well a little heat is what it got

22:18SPEAKERI guess I can say well

22:18SPEAKERSo the big takeaway from me from the from the from the jockeying over protein space on the on the protein grills

22:26SPEAKERWas that grill drama is real drama. Oh

22:30SPEAKERThat's for sure and that I just yeah, I need less drama in my life

22:34SPEAKERI got it. I get enough from being extremely online. It turns out that's that's fair wouldn't him

22:38SPEAKERWhat is it about the grill that brings out the chest-beating machismo?

22:42SPEAKERWell, what about why don't we even have to ask that question is literally like fire and raw meat

22:47SPEAKEROn a stick over fire. What do you expect like how much more primal can you get?

22:52SPEAKERLook, I'm gonna tell you if you want to be the campsite hero

22:54SPEAKERWhat do you do is you teach the kids how to do a good?

22:57SPEAKERPerfect. Like you look at you look for the kid that has a

23:00SPEAKERLittle torch that turns their marshmallows on a stick into a into a torch

23:04SPEAKERYou're like look, let me explain how this works. You get these down by the coals and stay the fire is bad

23:09SPEAKERYou got to get in there by the coals and then turn it and pull it in and out so that you know, you're not

23:15SPEAKERIt doesn't fall off the stick or doesn't turn into a giant goo pile. Yes wise man did once say fire bad

23:28SPEAKERBrad what were your summer breaks like when you were a kid?

23:31SPEAKERGosh, I mean, what era are we talking grade school up into high school?

23:35SPEAKERLet's say post NES pre SNES. Oh gosh. Well, that would have been middle

23:40SPEAKERSo I was still not quite old enough to have jobs at that point. That was like 12 13 for me

23:45SPEAKERI had chores, but not not paid. I did I did a fair amount of neighborhood work. I did. Oh, really? I mowed yards

23:52SPEAKERI did odd stuff like like I bought my Nintendo 64 by helping my neighbor blacktop his driveway for three days Wow

24:00SPEAKERBut I ruined a decent pair of shoes in the process. So I'm not sure I came out of it

24:03SPEAKERBut did you have to replace the shoes or was that apparent cost?

24:10SPEAKERNow that you mention it considering my dad groused about that exact event like three months I'm gonna guess that they replaced them

24:15SPEAKERI mean, let's see that that that to me seems like a valid use of resources in

24:21SPEAKERAnd we all learn an important lesson there

24:23SPEAKERYeah, it was like the most grumpy old dad thing ever to remember the time that I ruined a pair of shoes 30-some years ago

24:30SPEAKERI my father has has called out the pair of shoes

24:33SPEAKERI ruined by falling off of the sheet metal roof that we were putting on his boathouse

24:40SPEAKERWhen it started like, you know, the aluminum aluminum roof for tin roof. I can't run it was steel roof probably

24:48SPEAKERCoated with a little bit of oil so it comes so the pieces don't rust together while they're on the on the shelves

24:53SPEAKERAnd it started just like the the barest drizzle and the guy who was there with me was like you gotta get off the roof

24:58SPEAKERright now it's like well you put this last bolt in cuz I'd had I was like bent over and ready to go and next thing

25:03SPEAKERI knew I was in the lake and dad still yells at me about those shoes Wow. Yeah. Jeez. I kept the drill out of the water

25:09SPEAKERthough, so

25:11SPEAKERPriorities, I mean look I knew I knew if I had messed up the drill I'd be in big trouble and you know the shoes

25:18SPEAKERI didn't even consider your body expendable, but the drill

25:22SPEAKERYeah, yeah

25:23SPEAKERWasn't a good day

25:24SPEAKERBut um, but yeah, so okay

25:26SPEAKERSo so you you did like you would have done like a little bit of summer work

25:30SPEAKERLike did you have unlimited video game playtime or were you just like you had to do other stuff, too?

25:35SPEAKERDid you like swim lessons or camp or anything like that? Yeah young one was younger. Yes

25:40SPEAKERIt was very much like all right, you're gonna pull the cool today. Okay, go outside for a while. Yeah

25:44SPEAKERYes, have what are you chalky lollipops and play some Frogger? Yes

25:48SPEAKERJokes on them though. I just sat there and played the the Star Wars arcade game

25:53SPEAKEROh, man, one at the public pool and got shocked a bunch. Yeah, you always got shocked at the public pool arcade machines. Yes

25:59SPEAKERWe we lived on the country

26:02SPEAKERSo like we didn't like it was it was unusual that I got to see other children that weren't my sister when I was a kid

26:08SPEAKERWow, I didn't know you guys were that remote

26:10SPEAKERWell, I mean we weren't that remote but there weren't like there weren't like neighborhood kids, right?

26:14SPEAKERIt's like it's it's effort to find other human beings. Yeah, like we had to get it was a car ride

26:18SPEAKERand like dad worked and mom worked three days a week and the other two days were like maintaining the place because it was

26:24SPEAKERPretty big. It was a lot of mowing and stuff in the summertime

26:27SPEAKERso

26:28SPEAKERSo like when we would have we would do sleepovers it like every few weeks probably, you know

26:33SPEAKERLike somebody would come over on Saturday night and we played like laser tag in the field or or you know

26:37SPEAKERGo get in trouble by the river or something like that, but there weren't a lot of video games

26:41SPEAKERLike it was unusual to play video games when I was like 12 Wow

26:46SPEAKERlike somebody we would do stuff outside during the day and then at night we would stay up super late playing whatever video game we

26:51SPEAKERHad those they were in the house. You just couldn't touch them

26:54SPEAKERWell, it wasn't that we couldn't it was that though

26:56SPEAKERI mean it kind of was that we couldn't but also we didn't have air conditioning

26:59SPEAKERSo you like you didn't want to be inside if it was hot out

27:01SPEAKERWait, you lived in Tennessee when the mountains with no air conditioning. It wasn't that bad most of the time none

27:09SPEAKEROkay, so we had air conditioning and then lightning hit the house in like 1983 and blew up the air conditioner

27:15SPEAKERand

27:17SPEAKERIt was a difficult time for the family business. So it wasn't replaced and it turns out

27:22SPEAKERProbably fine. Yeah, it's like living in the Bay Area with no ten no area cuz like it's high 1,500 feet

27:27SPEAKERAnd we lived right next to the river

27:29SPEAKERSo the river keeps the rivers cold the water in the river is always like 49 degrees Fahrenheit

27:34SPEAKERSo it's cold and like you get fog in the morning and it's pretty good

27:38SPEAKERIt's just like okay three o'clock to five o'clock or seven o'clock was always pretty warm. That's that's not bad. Yeah

27:44SPEAKERLast the last summer that I lived in Raleigh, North Carolina before I moved, California

27:49SPEAKERI was also living in my first apartment at the time my roommate

27:53SPEAKERLong story short is the nature of his job. He was working in other states a lot going to other offices and stuff

27:59SPEAKERSo I was there by myself a lot. The air conditioning went out in the middle of the summer in Raleigh. Mm-hmm

28:04SPEAKERWell, that's bad. It was like

28:06SPEAKERI believe it was when I was doing a game guide for Warcraft 3

28:11SPEAKERIt was a little two-story. It's like a little two-story in my bedroom is up

28:14SPEAKERI literally had to move the computer down on to the side of the first floor because it was so hot upstairs

28:19SPEAKERLike the thermostat went up to 95 in there and the needle just sat on 95 all the time. Well, okay, so you and I

28:26SPEAKERGo ahead. No, no

28:29SPEAKERI don't have a good reason for this other than I let that go for like two weeks without doing anything about it

28:33SPEAKERDid you just not know that you could call them and complain and they had to come fix it?

28:36SPEAKERI don't know. I think I was busy with the game guide and just wasn't really I took like five cold showers

28:41SPEAKEROh my god, that sounds like hell. I find I called them. I finally I should probably do something about this

28:46SPEAKERI finally called the the front office of the apartment complex at like noon on a Friday

28:51SPEAKEROh, wow

28:52SPEAKERLike what did they had somebody over there to fix it and had it done and working again before the end of the day that?

28:58SPEAKERSame Friday Brad like I have to assume like that was definitely a liability thing, right?

29:02SPEAKERYeah, you could have died and also like there's probably well, I mean, North Carolina

29:06SPEAKERI don't know if they have renter protections because it seems like not the kind of thing

29:08SPEAKERThat would be very North Carolina II but like in California something like that goes out

29:12SPEAKERThey have they have to start giving you money back if they don't fix it in a certain period of time. I

29:18SPEAKERjust so

29:20SPEAKERWhen I was at maximum PC

29:22SPEAKEREvery year when summer started in North America, we would start getting the hey, my computer is spontaneously rebooting

29:29SPEAKERemails like it was like clockwork like the August issue of the magazine always had

29:34SPEAKERBut eventually we would just pull old emails or make up one so that we could put it in the issue

29:39SPEAKERThat would be hitting at the start of summer just as a public service announcement

29:43SPEAKERyeah, because like what happens is if your power supply is saggy or is

29:49SPEAKERLike if when your power supply starts to go it'll run fine the efficiency of the power supply goes down

29:55SPEAKERThe higher the temperature gets the ambient temperature gets then the hotter the the stuff inside at work gets so

30:01SPEAKERLike it might provide more than enough power in

30:05SPEAKERDecember when it's cold out, but when when it's 85 degrees in your in your computer room

30:11SPEAKERThen it's not able to cool enough and and the amount of power

30:14SPEAKERGoes out sag so that when your CPU usage or GPU usage spikes

30:18SPEAKERIt just bottoms out the whole thing and you get a black screen and it just reboots spontaneously

30:23SPEAKERAnd and we would get dozens of those every year

30:26SPEAKERSo I like hate props to whoever built your computer is a nice job. It held up in the 95 degree room

30:32SPEAKERWell, hey, that was me. So way to go me heck of a job Brad

30:42SPEAKERHow often do you clean your earbuds have any time there's something gross on them

30:46SPEAKERWait, do you have you're actually paying enough attention to know when there's something gross? I

30:50SPEAKERBought those AirPods pros earlier this year and they're white so stuff shows up. Okay. Well, yeah, those are luxury

30:57SPEAKERSo that's a luxury product also. So maybe you actually care. I mean, I just don't want to see a look

31:02SPEAKERI instead I set up a raspberry pie with pie hole on it because I didn't want to see earwax

31:06SPEAKEREarwax ads on the internet anymore. I want to see I want to see earwax. Yo, yeah, they're gross

31:11SPEAKERYeah, I mean, I'm just I'm on a succession of $35 like no-name Bluetooth

31:16SPEAKERBut just send them in the into the landfill over and over again. I've never thrown any out yet

31:21SPEAKERI've got a couple Oh, so you're hoarding them and then it's I also haven't really paid a lot of attention to them over time

31:26SPEAKERYeah, I bet they're really gross, huh?

31:28SPEAKERMmm, I maybe what if I just didn't look what what is the worst that would happen if I just never looked you'd never want

31:34SPEAKERTo put them in your body again

31:35SPEAKERThen you get another pair of $30 earbuds and throw those in the landfill

31:37SPEAKERThink anybody's ever gotten an ear infection from bad earbuds. Oh almost certainly. Oh you think so?

31:42SPEAKERYeah, I like I've had your swelling from not from gross stuff on the earbuds, but just from irritation from the earbuds

31:48SPEAKERYeah, did you do you mean are do you actually trust in ear headphones? Like I I exclusively do in ear headphones

31:55SPEAKERI use them out of necessity

31:57SPEAKERBut I always kind of worry that maybe that's a little too close to the machinery in there and it's probably not good for your hearing

32:02SPEAKERI mean, so one of the things I like about the AirPods is that they actually tell you if you're listening to them too loud. Oh

32:08SPEAKERLike they're like, hey, yo, you've been over 70 decibels for too long. You shouldn't do this. It's gonna hurt your hearing

32:14SPEAKERso so like I

32:18SPEAKERDon't know. I I worry more like the thing that worries me more

32:21SPEAKERIs that the the actual the skin inside your ear canal is the thinnest skin on your body, basically?

32:27SPEAKERSo if that gets inflamed and infected and it you can have real problems as a result

32:33SPEAKERSo like if I my ears occasionally I get a little swollen in the ear holes

32:39SPEAKERYeah, and then I just don't wear your pods for AirPods for a couple days. That's the swelling goes down

32:44SPEAKERDo you have a do you have a cleaning protocol for the ears or the AirPods?

32:48SPEAKERFor the for the buds. I just kind of wipe off the stuff on the outside

32:52SPEAKERI don't I don't the people always used to say you should just suck the ends when they get wax in them

32:58SPEAKERWhich sounds sorry horrifying. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't do that

33:02SPEAKERI I have I have dental picks that I used to clean like small electronic stuff

33:07SPEAKERSo if there's like a piece of wax stuck in the in the sound and I'll use it to kind of gently

33:12SPEAKERPoke it out

33:13SPEAKERBut like use a toothpick or something to if that's if that's what you have

33:16SPEAKERSure, my go-to as stated earlier in this episode 70% ice purple

33:19SPEAKERIs there is there anything that you would not use alcohol to clean anything that has?

33:24SPEAKERYeah, there's certain kinds of plastics. If you put it right isopropyl on it'll do bad things

33:28SPEAKERMmm, like acrylics. Okay, you can it can make the surface cloudy Oh

33:34SPEAKER70% is probably fine

33:35SPEAKERbut anything above that you can cause problems 60% probably better for cleaning than 70% cuz cuz you want the

33:41SPEAKERAlcohol to linger a little bit. Yes. Yes. I've I've actually read that night. What is it? Is it 90 or 95 percent?

33:46SPEAKERThat's common. I forget but that's like that's actually

33:48SPEAKERCounter-productive in some cases because it evaporates so fast. It doesn't actually do the thing

33:52SPEAKERIt's there to do so like 90 percent 95 percent are good for getting water

33:56SPEAKERLike if you like, for example, if you spill something in your keyboard, they're good for getting the water up

34:01SPEAKERThe release I've used them for getting the water up and with with with good success at that

34:08SPEAKERThe 95 99 you use for cleaning electronics usually like getting flux off and stuff like them

34:15SPEAKERYou shouldn't use those on your body. It's bad for you

34:18SPEAKEROr for like I wouldn't use those on plastic

34:22SPEAKERSorry, I maybe I didn't specify in the original question. I was mainly talking like electronics

34:26SPEAKERYeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't use like I would I wear gloves when I handle 95 and 99 percent. I guess what I'm saying

34:30SPEAKERYeah, yikes. Huh? Yeah, but but I don't put that on

34:34SPEAKERI only do 60 and 70 on electronics when I'm cleaning stuff. That's not like a circuit board or something

34:39SPEAKERThat's fair. Yeah, I um, I don't know I use the duster

34:43SPEAKERI use the canned air and the in the duster for a lot of stuff not for air pods or earbuds

34:49SPEAKEROkay, when are we just gonna get home UV lights we can just zap everything you can buy those look look man you you're blocking too

34:56SPEAKERMany ads if you open up Instagram, you'll see like a phone UV phone sanitizer. You'll see five an hour. Yeah, really?

35:03SPEAKEROh, man, I've been missing out

35:11SPEAKERI like to think Saturday morning breakfast is like Super Bowl for dads. I

35:16SPEAKERDon't know having to compete in the Super Bowl every week might be a little much

35:20SPEAKERHey, I don't mean to assign gender roles to like basic stuff like cooking food and and but Saturday morning. I make breakfast usually

35:28SPEAKERAnd I started doing this waffle recipe lately

35:33SPEAKERThere's a serious eats like it's I think Kenji called it the overnight hungover waffles or something with the idea that you can

35:40SPEAKERWhip them up when you come home slightly drunk and have some dope waffles for brunch the next day

35:45SPEAKERI don't normally think about waffles being hangover food. I'm curious

35:49SPEAKERWell, I kill waffle and then you know your waffle makes them make a fried egg with it or something like that

35:54SPEAKERThat's the thing that the stuff that goes with the waffles like the bacon and eggs. That's the hangover food

35:58SPEAKERyeah, but but you have kids you got it, you know, you got a

36:03SPEAKERwaffles and pancakes biscuits and gravy that's that's that's our those are breakfast staples over here the

36:08SPEAKERThese so these are yeast risen, which is why you have to do them the night before

36:11SPEAKEROh, wow, and they end up with like this this really great crunchy exterior, but really soft tender insides

36:18SPEAKEROh, man

36:20SPEAKERAnd I and I finally I think today I've been making them for about a year and it's like they get a little bit better

36:26SPEAKEReach time a little bit better each time

36:28SPEAKERBut I this time I try not oiling the the waffle iron because we have a nonstick waffle iron

36:34SPEAKERFabulous crunchy on the outside

36:37SPEAKERlike a

36:39SPEAKERLovely golden brown and like it's nice

36:42SPEAKERIt's nice because one of the only places that I can I cook or when any of us cook really

36:46SPEAKERThat we do the same things week after week

36:48SPEAKERso like you don't get a lot of time to iterate on like dinner recipes because you do like

36:52SPEAKERThe you maybe want a month of that, but this I do I can do waffles three weeks in a row

36:57SPEAKERnobody's gonna complain no and

37:00SPEAKERlike it gives you the time to iterate and learn and get better at making the thing that's

37:05SPEAKERLike there's a surprising amount of technique do and I like that it makes me feel happy

37:09SPEAKERFor sure. We may have covered this before I have nothing against a pancake. I

37:13SPEAKERWill take a waffle any day though. Well, I mean look

37:19SPEAKERTo me there's there they're like people are want to argue about pies and cakes and waffles and pancakes and all that

37:27SPEAKERThey're all good

37:29SPEAKERSure, if you okay, if you don't like pancakes, I'm gonna tell you you probably never had a good pancake

37:34SPEAKERNo, no, I mean, I look at again. I have nothing against a pancake

37:36SPEAKERI'm just saying if it came down to it if you were to ask me pancake or waffle

37:40SPEAKERYeah, like I mean the waffle generally is basically the exact same batter right just wildly different if you're making the same

37:47SPEAKEROkay, if you're going to get in the Bisquick and add in some milk and an oil to it then yes

37:52SPEAKERIt's the same batter. Okay, so you get a good sense of how fancy our pancake and waffle. Yes. I am a

37:58SPEAKERWhenever somebody says nothing against something they that absolutely means that they have something against that

38:04SPEAKERUniversally, you'd actually the only thing I really have against pancakes is how few of them I can eat. Well, like

38:11SPEAKERLike a like a like a short stack or whatever like three pancakes and I'm done

38:15SPEAKERHere's like the densest food on the planet. Okay, when you're back

38:18SPEAKERYou've got to come over on a Sunday morning for a pancake feast because I will make some pancakes

38:22SPEAKERWe came in the backyard and sold. Yeah

38:26SPEAKERlike

38:27SPEAKERgood pancakes are are a

38:32SPEAKERPancake should not be heavy

38:34SPEAKEROkay, a pancake should be fluffy and light and it should it should bring joy to your heart

38:38SPEAKERIt should absorb a little bit of butter a little bit of maple syrup or alternately if you want to put some you know

38:43SPEAKERSome whipped cream some fruit on it. That's that should be a

38:47SPEAKERviable alternative

38:49SPEAKERIt's it's it's a conveyance

38:51SPEAKERIt's it's a it's a way to bring love into your body in food form

39:02SPEAKERAll right, I've been in this house for a few weeks now and I have come to a realization, okay

39:07SPEAKERYou know, honestly, I knew this in my heart of hearts already, but to have it presented in such a ways

39:12SPEAKERLaundry on premises is the true American dream

39:16SPEAKERLike in the house. Yes, like right there in the domicile don't have to go anywhere

39:22SPEAKERDon't have to drop any coins in don't have to wait your turn

39:25SPEAKERWell depends on how many people are in the house, but wait, wait

39:27SPEAKERDo you not have laundry in your apartment in San Francisco and in the unit? Yeah, there's anybody. Yeah, we always did

39:34SPEAKERI didn't look at any partners. I didn't have laundry in them from like

39:37SPEAKER2001 on I didn't know they even made that I've never lived in an apartment in this city that had

39:42SPEAKERDon't washing machine. I mean, maybe this is why apartments are always so goddamn expensive

39:47SPEAKERawesome

39:48SPEAKERThe freedom the true that is true Liberty

39:51SPEAKERJust been able to foul up your clothes whenever you feel like it knowing that you can go clean them immediately

39:56SPEAKERThey minimum fuss. It's all I want. We're hold. I'm gonna go and tell you I don't think I would know how to live

40:04SPEAKERWithout like I don't know how you have a kid

40:07SPEAKERWithout being able to wash clothes at any given moment because they're just they're just constantly clothes being dirtied

40:13SPEAKERIt's non-stop. Oh sure. Well, I mean obviously quite have that level of challenge to deal with but still

40:19SPEAKERWow, I can't even imagine

40:22SPEAKERHow do you like?

40:24SPEAKERHow many clothes do you have? I like how often do you do laundry like once a week pretty strategically?

40:30SPEAKERNo, I mean, I've got enough clothes to last longer than that. But

40:34SPEAKEROkay. Okay. Do we need to establish the hierarchy of laundry needs here? I assume underpants is at the top of the list. Yes, absolutely

40:42SPEAKERUnderwear and socks are the cannot wear them again

40:46SPEAKERYou're making a face, you know, that's

40:49SPEAKERThere's something about your sock wearing habits

40:51SPEAKERI need to know like I have a couple pairs of wool socks that I wear cuz my feet get cold

40:54SPEAKERBut I wear them they're almost like slippers

40:56SPEAKERSo like yeah

40:57SPEAKERThey're like I often wear them with another sock underneath like a cotton sock underneath and I'll wear the thick wool sock on top

41:02SPEAKEROh, yeah, that's fine

41:03SPEAKERAlso, he's like, you know

41:04SPEAKERIf I if I put on a pair of socks for like half an hour to go somewhere and then come right back

41:08SPEAKERI might put them back on later. Yeah, I think that's fair. But underwear is a one-day. Well

41:13SPEAKERI mean, let's be real negotiable in the 2020 in the post kovat landscape

41:18SPEAKERUnderwear is a one is a shower to shower wear for me not necessarily one day

41:22SPEAKERSometimes that's like a day and a half, you know, hey man, what should the privacy of your own home?

41:27SPEAKERNobody's going to judge you. I

41:29SPEAKERFeel like you're judging me, but that's okay

41:33SPEAKEROkay, so but okay so you have enough underwear what else what else like

41:38SPEAKERHow many do you have like two weeks worth of shorts? Oh

41:42SPEAKERYeah, totally. Wow. Well, I mean, okay. Well, I'm not wearing I'm not discarding a pair of shorts after one day necessarily

41:49SPEAKERI mean, yeah, it's not like we're doing hard physical labor over here podcast minds

41:54SPEAKERWe're sitting at a desk maybe getting lightly damp on the worst worst day

41:58SPEAKERIf I'm if all I'm doing is working at home at a desk and not going anywhere like Jim Schwartz two three days

42:04SPEAKERIt's not the end of the world. Yeah, I have a pair of jeans. I probably haven't washed in a year at this point. Whoo

42:10SPEAKERBut I mean, I don't wear them very much

42:12SPEAKERit's like every once in a while and then if like if they

42:15SPEAKERLike we live it in the fog belt down here. You got to watch out for the like mustiness

42:20SPEAKERIs the real enemy because stuff gets a little damp and then it starts smelling like like wet house

42:24SPEAKERYou don't want that, you know, just throw them in the freezer for a few hours everything hang them up in the Sun is good

42:30SPEAKERYeah, there's options

42:38SPEAKERHad to have an intervention with my daughter about the roebucks

42:43SPEAKEROkay, like by buying too many under your nose. Like what are we know? She doesn't have god

42:47SPEAKERno, of course, we don't give her access if we if I if I bought her if I give her access to buy roebucks without

42:52SPEAKERSupervision we I'd have had to sell the house by now

42:57SPEAKERLike she okay, so two things happened one is

43:02SPEAKERThat it became clear that she was building Smurf accounts and doing the like old wow thing

43:08SPEAKERWhere she would sit and be like, hey, I'm new to the game. Could does anybody have any free stuff that you can give me?

43:14SPEAKEROh, I was like, okay, that's not okay

43:17SPEAKERAnd we had to explain why that wasn't okay and like I was just this makes me feel bad that we're having to have this

43:22SPEAKERConversation. I feel like I've failed as a parent. Where do you think she learned this baby? She learned from fucking YouTube, man

43:28SPEAKERYeah

43:30SPEAKERthe the funnier one though is

43:33SPEAKERShe didn't want to use like they have a lot of games that are like hey

43:38SPEAKERIt's like Pokemon go where you get a thing and then you have to do some work to level up the thing

43:42SPEAKERBut the work is time-consuming and takes a while and it kind of sucks

43:46SPEAKERBut of course you can pay some roebucks and bypass the grindy bits if you so desire

43:51SPEAKERBut she realized that she could pay one of her friends to level up the characters

43:56SPEAKERWith roebucks Wow cheaper than she could pay the game to level them up because her friends like to play the gamey part and I was

44:03SPEAKERlike

44:03SPEAKERokay a I'm kind of impressed that you're like, you know, but also I'm not okay with you using the money that I give you to

44:10SPEAKERPay your friends to play a game for you

44:14SPEAKERThat feels real weird, we're like two steps away from like the Wow gold auctions of 2005 here fair

44:20SPEAKERI gotta figure out how to get her to channel this energy this this this this scheming energy into some like

44:27SPEAKERSome actual profit center stuff and not just low-key roebuck scams though as I think where we're at seriously

44:33SPEAKERIt seems like you got a future little business leader on your hands. Oh, man. That's the worst thing. Anybody's ever said to me

44:45SPEAKERBrad do you ever get update dread?

44:48SPEAKERThese days yes the more open source the more Linux the more you know of that stuff I get into the more that yes

44:55SPEAKERRunning it updates feels like maybe walking a tight wire Tyra. I feel like you

45:00SPEAKERprobably are a little more fastidious with your updating of say

45:05SPEAKERTrue-ness jails and like little VMS that are running all over the place than maybe I am

45:10SPEAKERyeah, I mean I try to be judicious about it like

45:14SPEAKERYou're definitely weighing do I really need to run this update or not against like what the actual benefits are and the risk of

45:20SPEAKERMaybe the whole thing just falling apart. Yeah, so I I found a VM or jail rather

45:25SPEAKERI hadn't updated since 2020

45:28SPEAKERHuh? Okay. It doesn't face the real internet. It's like locked behind the router and I looked at I was like

45:35SPEAKERif this breaks it's gonna take me the better part of a day to figure out how to unbreak it probably and

45:41SPEAKERThe downside of me not updating it is very very low

45:45SPEAKERI think like there's no it's not gonna hit by outside IPS or anything like that. Like it's behind the firewall

45:52SPEAKERIt's probably fine. I feel like I feel like you've just rattled off almost every variable in this equation with one exception

45:58SPEAKERWhich is how critical to like domestic harmony is the service that it's running?

46:03SPEAKERIt's the one that runs Plex

46:05SPEAKEROkay, I'm guessing that one's pretty crucial. I feel like

46:09SPEAKERMultiple people inside and now that well, okay. So Plex has been updated just to be clear

46:14SPEAKERIt's the underlying OS that has not been updated. Oh, you're fine. Oh, you're super fine. Okay

46:20SPEAKERBecause Plex does I guess talk to the outside world in a limited way

46:24SPEAKERKind of what is what is driving this though? Like you see a number that could be bigger

46:28SPEAKERIs that I mean look it's a BSD machine that hasn't been updated like the VM is on is probably two versions of true NAS back

46:35SPEAKERWhich means it's not getting security updates anymore. Mmm or the jail

46:40SPEAKERBut I also I only I understand how that stuff works. Well enough to be dangerous

46:44SPEAKERLike I don't understand if there's actually a threat there because it's running on top of the existing version of BSD

46:49SPEAKERLike the current version of BSD which is up-to-date. So I don't know what the threat is, but I'm afraid to update it and

46:56SPEAKERIf I lose all the data in the Plex library at this point, I'll be pretty like like I have backups of that

47:01SPEAKERSo it's not the end of the world

47:03SPEAKERBut also I'd rather not lose all the data in the Plex library at this point or have to figure out how to restore that

47:08SPEAKERBecause it's a pain, you know what they say about it being broke. Don't fix it if it ain't

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48:57SPEAKERYeah, yeah, we talked to we talked to we talked to Paulus chaltsin who is the the maintainer of home assistant

49:05SPEAKERMm-hmm and is a is a very knowledgeable affable

49:10SPEAKERgentlemen, and we had a lovely conversation with him about open the open sources and

49:16SPEAKERLike what it's like to maintain

49:19SPEAKERI think one of the more sprawling open source projects that I've ever seen if not any more sprawling

49:24SPEAKERThere was a lot of interesting stuff in that conversation

49:26SPEAKERI loved hearing him talk about like, you know

49:28SPEAKERThey run knob of casa which allows you to pay five bucks a month to kind of handle some of the remote

49:33SPEAKERAdministration parts of home assistant for you may happy customer of knob of casa

49:36SPEAKERYeah, so something I had kind of intuitively understood from our discord

49:40SPEAKERIt was but it was interesting to hear him

49:42SPEAKERSay it out loud was that like the more likely you are to know how to do all that stuff the more likely you also

49:47SPEAKERAre to just want to pay somebody else to do it for you

49:49SPEAKERwell

49:49SPEAKERthere's a there's a I didn't we didn't talk about the show because I didn't really think about it until we were editing but

49:55SPEAKERlike there's a

49:57SPEAKERThere's a thing there's a ramp for me where I want to know how to do it

50:00SPEAKERAnd then once I know how to do it and I realize what an incredible pain in the ass

50:03SPEAKERIt is in the long term. I'm happy to offload that to somebody else for five bucks a month. Yes, exactly

50:08SPEAKERThere's also great hearing from the source. Somebody's like right in the middle of it about the new matter standard

50:13SPEAKERThat's gonna supposedly allow like everybody's smart devices to talk to everybody else's which is really exciting

50:18SPEAKERYeah, that was the most interesting for me part of the of the episode

50:22SPEAKERI think in terms of like future looking technology and what he's excited about and all that kind of stuff

50:27SPEAKERSo yeah, he's his company. He you know, this is a contributor a

50:32SPEAKERThey're a member of the coalition. I think is yeah, wait, does that mean that we finally spoken to a member of a consortium?

50:39SPEAKERWe've talked to a lot of consortium members who just didn't realize it. They're everywhere through they're lurking among us

50:46SPEAKERYeah, so that's on FOS pod content downtown. You should all listen to it. If you don't already subscribe to the to the

50:52SPEAKERPodcast you should check it out and we referred back to the home assistant episode that we did a couple years ago

50:58SPEAKERI think it might be time for us to revisit home assistant for the main for the tech pod at some point

51:03SPEAKERIt's been a minute and a lot of stuff has changed. So

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